1140825666 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1140825707 M * Bertl hey matti! 1140825745 M * matti Hello Bertl :) 1140825901 J * rs ~rs@vol75-7-82-229-177-124.fbx.proxad.net 1140825907 M * Bertl wb rs! 1140825915 M * rs re 1140825996 M * ebiederm Bertl: I was thinking something completely different. 1140826009 M * ebiederm I've seen to many patches to exit.c in the last little while :) 1140826021 M * matti ssh -2C -ax matti@kadesh 1140826022 M * matti Oops. 1140826023 M * matti ;] 1140826083 M * ebiederm Although this looks like a case that should only trigger when your init process is exiting... 1140826116 M * Bertl interestingly it triggers when a guest with a real init is started 1140826140 M * ebiederm Certainly something is exiting. 1140826191 M * ebiederm The loop where you call child_reaper is only there to make a sibling thread the reaper. 1140826210 M * Bertl yeah, I assume the process starting the guest is existing 1140826213 M * ebiederm forget_original_parent is all about (I am exiting so forget my children) 1140826214 M * Bertl *exiting 1140826245 M * ebiederm It looks like you fix should take care of it for now. 1140826387 M * Bertl interesting detail is, my fix seems to have caused it :) 1140826419 M * ebiederm if (init && (init != father)) caused it? 1140826567 M * Bertl nah, the previous one 1140826592 M * Bertl this one was supposed to fix similar issues, and it certainly gets rid of zombies 1140826642 M * ebiederm Sounds about right. 1140827461 M * ebiederm I wonder why your child_reaper was exiting on startup. 1140828007 M * ebiederm Bertl: Do you handle the evil case if a guest has a threaded init and calls exec from the non-init thread? 1140828043 M * Bertl hmm, good point 1140828292 M * ebiederm Eric's evil though of the day. Make /proc/sys per process :) 1140828386 M * Bertl couldn't we get rid of /proc/sys at all? 1140828443 M * ebiederm Probably. 1140828561 M * ebiederm Fixing it to do what we need is likely more timely though. 1140828722 M * ebiederm I just know there is a gordian knot that needs to be untangled. 1140828748 M * ebiederm If I don't rush and take everything one small step at a time it is doable without breaking anything. 1140828766 M * ebiederm Get in a hurry or take an short cut and we are likely to mess something up. 1140829048 N * ebiederm ebiederm_oO 1140830113 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1140830857 Q * shuri Remote host closed the connection 1140832262 J * PotatoBob ~LMS_Guest@adsl-68-94-35-126.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1140832271 M * PotatoBob hows it going 1140832310 M * Bertl hey PotatoBob! fine thanks! 1140832470 M * PotatoBob any ideas on Openvz vs VServer? 1140832511 M * Bertl hmm, Linux-VServer rulez!? 1140832537 M * PotatoBob heh of course :) 1140832588 M * PotatoBob only thing you need that openvz has is a webmin module :( 1140833362 Q * PotatoBob Remote host closed the connection 1140833362 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-37-15.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1140833668 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1140834321 M * bitriot I was wondering about openvz too, it's very similar to vserver isn't it? 1140834332 M * Bertl yes 1140834343 M * Bertl the main difference is the origin 1140834364 M * Bertl OpenVZ comes from Virtuozzo(tm), a commercial product from SWsoft 1140834364 M * bitriot So it's independent implementations of the same idea? 1140834400 M * Bertl Linux-VServer has become a real competitor to Virtuozzo, so they decided to open source some parts 1140834420 M * bitriot So Virtuozzo is further ahead you would say? 1140834421 M * Bertl (to get some free testing and maybe new customers) 1140834448 M * Bertl currently I think we are somewhat equal to virtuozzo(tm) 1140834461 M * Bertl some things like network virtualization are better in VZ 1140834476 M * bitriot vserver seems to be really focussed on security, would you say that virtuozzo has taken as much care about that? I imagine that you must be pretty familiar with their work 1140834481 M * Bertl but other things, like performance and arch support, are better in Linux-VServer 1140834516 A * bitriot wonders how you could have poor performance 1140834546 M * Bertl well, I know that their code is hard to read and in a big single patch ... 1140834593 M * Bertl bitriot: VZ does a lot of virtualization, where Linux-VServer does only isolation but achieves the same thing in the end 1140834644 M * bitriot oh really? what do they virtualize? 1140834671 M * Bertl for example the network stack 1140834693 M * bitriot ahh okay, I can see how that might be useful 1140834733 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1140834773 M * bitriot I always thought that virtuozzo, vservers, fbsd jails were pretty much identical. I couldn't really imagine many variations on the partioning idea 1140834778 M * Bertl bitriot: well, the use is limited, but of course they can allow their customers to set iptable rules 1140835713 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-87-190.netcologne.de 1140835829 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140835829 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1140840657 J * LCamel_ luors@chengjeng.iis.sinica.edu.tw 1140840916 Q * LCamel Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140846288 J * fwl ~fwl@83.215.237.1 1140846616 Q * fwl Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1140846641 Q * nokoya Remote host closed the connection 1140847334 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1140849875 J * SuperLag ~aaron@38.99.66.175 1140849913 M * SuperLag Hollow: ping. 1140849915 M * SuperLag localhost / # ls -l /etc/make.profile 1140849916 M * SuperLag lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Feb 25 05:53 /etc/make.profile -> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/vserver 1140849932 M * SuperLag Hollow: ^^ that 1140849961 M * SuperLag that is what I'm referring to 1140850025 M * SuperLag Linux zoom 2.6.15-vs2.0.1-gentoo-r1 #1 Fri Feb 24 14:08:17 CST 2006 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 1140850061 M * SuperLag it should say ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.1/vserver :) 1140853053 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed ... have a good one everyone! cya later! 1140853065 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1140853360 Q * rs Quit: rs 1140854416 J * fwl ~fwl@83.215.237.1 1140856004 J * tso ~tso@249-158.adsl.pool.ew.hu 1140856007 M * tso hi all 1140856043 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54974E03.dip.t-dialin.net 1140857068 Q * fwl Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1140857437 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org 1140857880 J * Hollow|mobile ~Hollow@p5497BC67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1140858405 Q * Hollow|mobile Quit: Hollow|mobile 1140860312 J * fwl ~fwl@83.215.237.1 1140860398 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180 1140860986 J * matta ~matta@c-68-81-35-243.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1140861905 Q * fwl Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1140862550 J * fwl ~fwl@83.215.237.1 1140863332 M * Hollow SuperLag: ping 1140866252 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-39-218.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1140867148 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi 1140867744 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.35.186 1140869167 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1140872693 J * doener ~doener@p5487744C.dip.t-dialin.net 1140873170 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1140875408 Q * doener Quit: leaving 1140875911 M * SuperLag Hollow: pong 1140876312 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1140876344 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-84-44-229-147.netcologne.de 1140876551 Q * dothebart Read error: Connection reset by peer 1140878118 M * SuperLag Hollow: it's Saturday. I can be lazy. I'm going back to sleep for a bit. :) 1140878148 M * phreak`` heh SuperLag, shoot :) I'm here too :P 1140878611 J * rs ~rs@vol75-7-82-229-177-124.fbx.proxad.net 1140878994 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.73.88.3 1140879349 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-241-131.netcologne.de 1140879365 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140879459 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140879459 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1140880898 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1140881377 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1140881383 M * Bertl greetings folks! 1140881761 M * mnemoc greetings Bertl 1140881810 M * Bertl hey mnemoc! how's going? 1140882002 M * mnemoc quite good, and you? 1140882133 M * phreak`` Bertl: morning :) 1140882351 Q * fwl Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1140882375 M * Bertl mnemoc: yeah, fine thanks! 1140882383 M * Bertl hey phreak``! 1140882406 M * Bertl phreak``: did you read the thoughts ebiederm did add to the init issue? 1140882430 M * phreak`` Bertl: nope, didn't saw that in my backlog 1140882451 M * Bertl well, to make it short: he suggested that the init might be threaded 1140882469 M * Bertl and maybe the issue triggers when one of those threads exits 1140882498 M * Bertl haven't had a chance to verify that yet 1140882706 M * phreak`` the curious thing is, that it worked before (it think that was _rc7) 1140882720 M * Bertl yes, that's not too unusual 1140882744 M * Bertl we added the feature I mentioned to allow for reparenting zombies to guest init 1140882769 M * Bertl if this turns out to cause unsolvable issues, we will probably have to revert it 1140882789 M * Bertl but I still hope that we can fix this properly 1140882808 M * phreak`` I'm also hoping to get that fixed ;) 1140882819 M * Bertl will look into it in a few hours 1140882826 J * fwl ~fwl@83.215.237.1 1140882832 M * phreak`` no hurry, it's weekend :) 1140882850 M * Bertl weekends usually mean a lot of work to do (at least for me :) 1140882915 M * phreak`` Bertl: ah, so you swapped week with weekend ?! :) 1140882971 M * Bertl yeah, somewhat .. thing is, most companies try to improve things on the weekend/at night, because then it won't hurt their customers too much 1140883060 M * phreak`` Bertl: agreed, a reboot at night doesn't harm that much as a reboot at 9am :) 1140883499 N * ebiederm_oO ebiederm 1140883853 M * phreak`` morning Eric :) 1140884051 M * SuperLag I have a cron job to reboot the entire network at 9:15am >:) 1140884060 A * SuperLag hides 1140884077 M * SuperLag that would be disastrous 1140884668 M * phreak`` SuperLag: lol :) 1140884771 M * SuperLag oh yeah, but make sure you reboot the switches/routers before the server is up, so none of the clients can get to the NFS/NIS servers :) 1140884855 M * derjohn Can guest, whose Ip was stolen be revived? (i.e. you deleted ip addr del by accident on the host) ? 1140884906 M * phreak`` ip addr add $IP && vserver $guest restart should do that 1140884974 M * derjohn phreak``, well, I didnt mention that I wanted to revive without killing all guests processes .... 1140884996 M * derjohn (yes, I stop / start-ed them) 1140885140 M * bonbons derjohn: for me that works even without restarting the guest(s) 1140885348 M * derjohn bonbons, you mean simply "ip addr add it" again? well, hm, yes, the only annoyance is if the guest has many IPs, but I hope I dont need it often. (the read problem was shutting down guest a with 192.0.0.1/24, which took down guest B 192.0.0.2/32, C, D .... ) 1140885349 M * SuperLag bonbons make you FAT 1140885417 M * derjohn drugs make you SuperLag 1140885424 M * SuperLag :) 1140885428 M * SuperLag nooooooooo 1140885438 M * SuperLag I don't do drugs. Never have. 1140885451 M * SuperLag drugs are a very BAD idea 1140885480 M * derjohn too much lag, he ;) *lol* :) 1140885559 M * bonbons derjohn: that's the "primary address" issue, if you remove that all the others on the interface go away with it... 1140885601 M * derjohn bonbons, I know. I will switch all to /32 with the next reboot .... 1140885623 M * bonbons you have two options: assign a primary address for the host, so no guest owns the primary IP, or enable the workaround that promotes a secondary address (don't rememebr exactly what sysctl option it is) 1140885635 M * derjohn bonbons, the odd things is that you dont even see, which guests are up and which need a kick. 1140885669 M * derjohn bonbons, so I pinged all (/me = human loop) .... and forgot one ;/ 1140885730 M * bonbons they are all listed in /proc/virtual/ ... and on the output of vserver-stat 1140885815 M * derjohn bonbons, nack to vserver-stat. there they are even listed if they dont listen to an ip anymore. 1140885894 M * bonbons oh, you mean getting a list of guests with stolen IP :), no such list available. Could only be calculated with diff of existing IP addresses and contents of /proc/virtnet/*/info 1140885911 M * bonbons I though you just wanted the list of running guests 1140885986 M * derjohn bonbons, I knew that already ;) hm, it's time to code a script that outputs all IP's to a guest and loops through all guests ;) 1140886009 A * derjohn is afk 1140886020 M * derjohn thx for you help bonbons 1140887677 Q * `DoM`` Read error: Connection reset by peer 1140890045 M * Hollow SuperLag: ping again ;) 1140891404 A * harry playing: mayhem - freezing moon 1140891407 M * harry moehaha! 1140892228 J * PilatomiK ~tek@ADijon-151-1-148-164.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr 1140892615 M * Bertl welcome PilatomiK! 1140892626 Q * VxJasonxV Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140892645 M * Hollow anyone with a gmail account around? 1140892693 M * PilatomiK I' have 2 gmail account 1140892703 M * Hollow can you send me an invitation code? 1140892708 M * PilatomiK yep 1140892712 M * Hollow hollow@gentoo.org 1140892876 M * PilatomiK hollow 1140892879 M * PilatomiK it's ok 1140892886 M * Hollow thanks :) 1140892928 M * PilatomiK erf 1140892940 M * PilatomiK I'have a error message from gmail 1140892956 M * PilatomiK unable to make the requested operation, retry it in a few moment 1140892973 M * Hollow hm, then i'll wait a few moments :) 1140892986 M * PilatomiK it's send 1140892991 M * PilatomiK you can verifi ? 1140892999 J * VxJasonxV ~jason@ip68-110-115-17.ph.ph.cox.net 1140893005 M * Hollow yep, thanks 1140893212 M * PilatomiK Hollow : if you don't have enough space, after you can invite yourself on gmail lol 1140893255 M * Hollow well, just want to look around, i doubt i'll regularily use it ;) 1140893329 M * PilatomiK héhé, with an email on gentoo.org :) 1140893726 Q * fwl Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1140893869 M * Hollow would be nice if one could manage other pop/imap accounts via gmail.. 1140893878 M * Hollow not just send-from addresses 1140893885 M * Hollow but, well.. looks nice ;) 1140893948 M * PilatomiK I manage my gmail and other account with evolution and firebird :) 1140894018 M * PilatomiK Hollow, I'hav a problem with update from sarge to sid (with udev package and kernel-2.6.15) 1140894064 M * PilatomiK the problem : the dist-upgrade try to install udev but break because udev depend on kernel 2.6.12 minimum 1140894090 M * PilatomiK I install the kernel 2.6.15 but this kernel don't boot : probleme for creating tty 1140894117 M * PilatomiK have you an idea of the package who is missing ? 1140894125 M * PilatomiK (sorry for my superb english lol) 1140894194 M * PilatomiK /bin/sh: can't access tty: job controle turned off 1140894258 M * Hollow maybe you miss some device nodes? 1140894286 M * PilatomiK nop 1140894292 M * daniel_hozac that causes it not to boot? 1140894301 M * PilatomiK the system start correctly with a 2.6.8 kernel 1140894348 M * PilatomiK daniel_hozac, yes it stop apparently 1140894361 M * daniel_hozac where? why? 1140894378 M * daniel_hozac you sure it's not just the udev probing? 1140894430 M * PilatomiK on the system there are no udev installed currently (because the old udev was remove, and the newer udev don't install) 1140894431 J * matt1 ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1140894472 M * daniel_hozac so i take it you have a static /dev then? 1140894499 M * Bertl welcome matt1! 1140894522 M * PilatomiK I can paste here the output of dpkg -i udev......deb ? 1140894546 M * daniel_hozac pastebin.com if it's more than 3 lines. 1140894567 M * PilatomiK okay 1140894593 M * PilatomiK when I make a ls /dev with the 2.6.8 kernel I see tty devices 1140894634 M * PilatomiK it's not very necessary ... he say juste I can't install udev because I want >= 2.6.12 kernel 1140894637 M * daniel_hozac is /dev a mounted filesystem? 1140894653 M * PilatomiK devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) 1140894717 M * PilatomiK it's seem ok 1140894782 M * PilatomiK no ? 1140894841 M * daniel_hozac this is without udev, right? 1140894859 M * daniel_hozac what is the last line printed before the system stalls (or whatever it does). 1140894884 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140894916 M * PilatomiK the machine is not here, and my friend is eating 1140894954 M * PilatomiK but my friend say me that : /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off 1140894978 M * PilatomiK in a few moment I will have more info on the error message 1140895042 M * daniel_hozac that's not a fatal error. 1140895048 M * PilatomiK yep 1140895089 M * PilatomiK can I install udev in a fake 2.6.15 envirronement (but a 2.6.8 really) ? 1140895117 M * PilatomiK --force-all is not suffisent 1140895153 M * daniel_hozac just uninstalling the 2.6.8 kernel should do it. 1140895187 M * PilatomiK yes, but it dangerous because if it fail, I can't boot the system normally 1140895202 M * daniel_hozac doesn't dpkg have a --db-only flag? 1140895307 M * PilatomiK My friend is now on line :) 1140895324 M * PilatomiK I have ask the 3 last error line 1140895499 M * PilatomiK PANIC : Circular dependancy. Exciting 1140895511 M * PilatomiK after the system start busybox 1140895588 M * PilatomiK I will uninstall 2.6.8 kernel ... 1140895905 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1140896166 M * Bertl nap attack! off for a while ... 1140896177 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1140896414 M * PilatomiK without the 2.6.8 kernel ... same error on install of udev : >= 2.6.12 required 1140896628 M * PilatomiK howto force the install .... 1140896660 M * PilatomiK but I was wrong : udev_0.056-3_i386.deb seem installed 1140896899 M * cthompson hmm, is there some magic to getting samba working inside a vserver? 1140896904 M * cthompson it can't find interfaces 1140896973 M * PilatomiK ctthompson : have you specify a bind options ? 1140896994 M * PilatomiK with vserver you must specify bind-adress 1140897014 M * PilatomiK with vserver you must specify bind-address or listen-address 1140897065 M * cthompson PilatomiK: let me check 1140897115 M * cthompson bind interfaces only = yes 1140897116 M * cthompson interfaces = eth0 1140897126 M * PilatomiK hummm 1140897130 M * cthompson but 1140897134 M * cthompson eth0 has no IP 1140897137 M * PilatomiK eth0 is the interface of host system 1140897157 M * cthompson oh 1140897157 M * PilatomiK ha ;) 1140897159 M * cthompson eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:4B:0E:94:6C 1140897159 M * cthompson UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 1140897165 M * cthompson it all works 1140897169 M * cthompson oh 1140897183 M * cthompson do I need to name the interface in /etc/vservers? 1140897190 M * cthompson I vaguely remember something about that 1140897205 M * PilatomiK eth0:namevserver 1140897221 M * PilatomiK eth0:webs Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:09:67:AB:14 1140897241 M * cthompson where's that? 1140897260 M * PilatomiK my ifconfig line for one vserver named webserver 1140897296 M * cthompson is that in the guest itself or in the host? 1140897348 M * PilatomiK on my system ifconfig command return the same output with all interfaces in or out a vserver 1140897948 M * daniel_hozac cthompson: echo ... > /etc/vservers//interfaces/?/name 1140897959 M * daniel_hozac cthompson: samba should work without that though... 1140897971 M * daniel_hozac i don't use aliases, and i run samba in 2 of my vservers. 1140898010 M * daniel_hozac i just have interfaces = 1140898029 M * daniel_hozac (hmm, i guess samba needs to be patched to do the Right Thing(tm) by default too...) 1140898070 M * cthompson I stopped and started the vserver and it worked 1140898072 M * cthompson freaky 1140898135 M * cthompson yep 1140898137 M * cthompson got it working 1140898149 M * cthompson by the way, this is some wickedly cool stuff 1140898244 M * cthompson I'm completely redoing my whole box 1140898331 M * cthompson and pricing ram :) 1140898380 M * PilatomiK i just have interfaces = <-- in fact all network server daemon must have this precision if I think right (apache2, mysql, postgresql etc) 1140898386 M * PilatomiK right ? 1140898440 M * cthompson I know there's some craziness with nfs in a vserver, isn't there? 1140898468 M * PilatomiK I don't use nfs cthompson I can't say you 1140898468 M * cthompson It's not posible to run a NFS-kernel server inside a vserver, to work securely this would need a lot of work. 1140898471 M * cthompson well then 1140898649 M * SuperLag Hollow: pong 1140898769 M * Hollow did yout try the new stages? 1140898838 J * shuri ~boafroid@64.235.209.226 1140899037 Q * matt1 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1140899068 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1140899156 M * SuperLag Hollow: I tried the stage at the URL you gave me yesterday 1140899174 M * daniel_hozac PilatomiK: not within a guest, only on the host. 1140899191 M * daniel_hozac which is why (among other reasons) you should keep the host's services to a minimum. 1140899266 M * Hollow does it work? 1140899371 M * PilatomiK thanks you for your precision daniel_hozac (I havn't any problem because I precise on the host and in a guest) 1140899404 M * PilatomiK well, I go near my sarge sidious system 1140899434 M * PilatomiK (don't boot always) 1140899545 J * tek_ ~tek@ADijon-151-1-132-133.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr 1140899829 M * SuperLag Hollow: it works, but not correctly. wrong profile again. 1140899956 Q * PilatomiK Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140900048 M * Hollow dionysos stage3-amd64-20060222 # readlink etc/make.profile 1140900048 M * Hollow ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/vserver 1140900050 M * Hollow hm... 1140900407 M * SuperLag localhost / # readlink /etc/make.profile 1140900407 M * SuperLag ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/vserver 1140900465 M * Hollow did you build it with vserver-new? 1140900499 M * SuperLag yep 1140900534 M * Hollow hm.. maybe a bug.. and it isn't updated to use the new profiles yet.. but it should nevertheless pick the "old" amd64 profile 1140901001 M * Hollow SuperLag: could you try this version? http://dev.croup.de/proj/gentoo-vps/browser/util-vserver/tools/vserver-new?format=raw 1140901259 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1140901586 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1140902986 M * SuperLag Hollow: that's a new vserver-new script? 1140902995 M * Hollow yup 1140903010 M * Hollow from svn 1140904278 M * SuperLag building now 1140904290 J * Blahabak Lucky@212.200.208.185 1140904297 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904308 M * mnemoc o_O 1140904321 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904322 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904322 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904322 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904322 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904322 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904324 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904324 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904326 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904326 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904328 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904328 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904330 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904330 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904332 M * Blahabak microsoft rulz the world! 1140904332 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904334 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904334 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904336 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904336 M * Blahabak linux suxks 1140904336 M * Hollow is ja recht 1140904337 Q * Blahabak Remote host closed the connection 1140904419 M * SuperLag dance monkeyboy dance! 1140904428 M * tudenbart yha. 1140904482 M * Wonka Hollow: nee nee, muß nich 1140904729 M * SuperLag Hollow: here you go 1140904730 M * SuperLag localhost / # readlink /etc/make.profile 1140904730 M * SuperLag ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/vserver 1140904774 M * Hollow arr 1140904887 M * Hollow testing it now.. 1140905229 M * SiD3WiNDR :) 1140905244 A * SiD3WiNDR saw xen presentation @fosdem 1140905249 M * SiD3WiNDR it mentioned vserver! ;) 1140905328 M * mnemoc for good? 1140905457 M * SuperLag Hollow: I'm also trying to relink the profile manually, and recompile the toolchain. if that works, it's a moot point. The first time we tried it, we were unsuccessful. 1140905484 M * SiD3WiNDR mnemoc: well, as "different" :) 1140905487 M * SiD3WiNDR "Single OS solution" 1140905494 M * Hollow why would you recompile the toolchain? it should be x86_64 in the stage 1140905495 M * SiD3WiNDR OpenVZ was in front of it :/ 1140905506 M * mnemoc SiD3WiNDR: o_O 1140905601 M * SiD3WiNDR this is quite different from xen.. 1140905602 M * SiD3WiNDR :) 1140905610 M * SiD3WiNDR the hot migration is pretty cool 1140905633 M * SuperLag I'm still not sure which one I like better. :) 1140905793 M * SiD3WiNDR linux-vserver looks a lot more stable to me :) 1140905806 M * SiD3WiNDR I will install a xen testmachine though 1140906031 M * Hollow SuperLag: http://home.xnull.de/misc/amd64.txt 1140906038 M * Hollow seems ok to me 1140906205 J * newmaN ~acid@host29-181.pool8710.interbusiness.it 1140906369 Q * newmaN Quit: 1140906543 M * SuperLag Hollow: you're reading from the link outside the guest 1140906569 M * SuperLag isn't the correct one to read *inside* the guest 1140906571 M * SuperLag ? 1140907112 M * Hollow i can't start the guest, no vserver kernl on this machine... but it shouldn't matter... the link is the same in and outside 1140907192 M * SuperLag negative 1140907199 M * SuperLag the link inside was to x86 1140907209 M * SuperLag that's what i'd been showing you all along 1140907224 M * Hollow and outside it points to the right one? 1140908003 M * SuperLag yes 1140908015 M * SuperLag outside does, inside doesn't 1140909961 P * matta 1140910051 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1140910086 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1140910450 Q * phreak`` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1140910457 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@styx.xnull.de 1140910977 P * meandtheshell 1140911655 M * SuperLag Hollow: CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" <-- that's from /etc/make.conf.example in the guest. Shouldn't that be --> CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" instead? 1140911711 M * SuperLag and shouldn't you be able to start screen in your guests? 1140911727 M * SuperLag vs1 / # screen 1140911727 M * SuperLag Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/2' - please check.