1138924809 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1138924898 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-182.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1138924961 M * daniel_hozac as i said, you can't give interfaces to guests. 1138924973 M * daniel_hozac vserver only works with IP addresses. 1138925009 M * daniel_hozac and firewalling requires so many capabilities, it's easier to just run it on the host (probably better in general). 1138925073 M * Spudz0r okay, well, how can i run a static nat without a static outside ip? :p 1138925154 M * daniel_hozac put the rules in a separate chain that you flush and recreate each time your ppp/dhcpcd/dhclient/whatever renews the IP address. 1138925197 M * Spudz0r sounds fun :S 1138926036 M * blizz did you know that one?: IBM Deskstar == IBM Deathstar? :P 1138926136 Q * Spudz0r Read error: Connection reset by peer 1138927349 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org 1138927516 Q * Greek0 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1138927519 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1138928797 J * Spudz0r ~matthew@CPE-144-136-203-192.sa.bigpond.net.au 1138928865 M * Spudz0r okay, i can access the net with the vservers now, :D (finally), i've installed gcc, and am trying to compile a program, but am getting this error message: error: C compiler cannot create executable 1138928956 M * cehteh 32bit environment below a 64 bit vserver? 1138929017 M * Spudz0r it should all be 32bit :S 1138929043 M * cehteh mhm then something else is fishy .. missing lib or such 1138929171 M * Spudz0r yer :S 1138929189 A * Spudz0r slaps this thing :P 1138929312 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1138929322 M * Bertl hey folks! 1138929326 M * Spudz0r hai 1138929357 M * Spudz0r now i gotta figure out how to get this damn compiler working so that i can compile my ircd and get my irc network back together :@ 1138929368 M * DaCa morning Bertl 1138929377 M * Bertl hey DaCa! 1138929393 M * Bertl Spudz0r: you ahve a broken compiler? o_O 1138929507 M * Spudz0r i apt-get'd it :S 1138929507 M * Spudz0r haha 1138929550 M * cehteh tried ro compile a simple hello.c ? 1138929663 M * cehteh or if it is ./configure based locate the config.guess (./config.guess ./scripts/config.guess) and check what it things to be first :) 1138929698 M * Spudz0r perl: warning: Setting locale failed. 1138929699 M * Spudz0r perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en", 1138929703 M * Spudz0r LC_ALL = (unset), 1138929703 M * Spudz0r LANG = "en_AU.UTF-8" 1138929703 M * Spudz0r are supported and installed on your system. 1138929703 M * Spudz0r perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). 1138929703 M * Spudz0r perl: warning: Setting locale failed. 1138929705 M * Spudz0r perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: 1138929708 M * Spudz0r LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en", 1138929710 M * Spudz0r LC_ALL = (unset), 1138929713 M * Spudz0r LANG = "en_AU.UTF-8" 1138929715 M * Spudz0r are supported and installed on your system. 1138929718 M * Spudz0r perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). 1138929720 M * Spudz0r im getting this when i apt-get something :S 1138929723 M * Spudz0r is that normal? :S 1138929727 M * cehteh eh ... dont paste all the crap here 1138929740 M * cehteh thats not dangerous 1138929758 M * cehteh just generate proper locales 1138929814 M * cehteh locale-gen as root 1138929823 M * Spudz0r yer, tried that, still didnt work :P 1138929824 M * Spudz0r haha 1138929834 M * cehteh maybe you didnt installed the locales? 1138929844 M * cehteh well reset the systems/vservers locale to C 1138929860 M * cehteh anyways .. thats not a problem only a warning 1138929914 M * Spudz0r yer, nevermind, got the gcc working, found out that it hadnt installed libc6-dev 1138929917 M * Spudz0r :P 1138929920 M * cehteh hehe 1138929957 M * Spudz0r nor did it install make :@ 1138929967 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1138929992 M * cehteh .. 1138929995 M * Spudz0r lmfao :D 1138930058 M * Spudz0r :S it seems to be working now :P 1138930992 Q * Spudz0r Quit: thanks :D 1138932392 Q * vrwttnmtu Quit: Leaving 1138932852 J * mef ~mef@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net 1138932971 M * Bertl welcome mef! 1138932986 M * mef hey bertl 1138934790 Q * Dr4g Quit: Leaving 1138938145 J * [^GaLaCtIcO^] ~ircap@host41.201-252-160.telecom.net.ar 1138938168 M * [^GaLaCtIcO^] x) 1138938396 M * Bertl welcome [^GaLaCtIcO^]! 1138938407 M * [^GaLaCtIcO^] [Bertl] wenas 1138938713 M * [^GaLaCtIcO^] Bertl ececcion so that desis roasts to me of where you arer 1138938727 M * Bertl pardon? 1138938896 M * [^GaLaCtIcO^] x) 1138938909 M * [^GaLaCtIcO^] todo bien Bertl de donde sos 1138938943 M * Bertl well, the channel language is english ... but I didn't manage to understand your last sentence 1138939714 N * [^GaLaCtIcO^] [F4] 1138939836 M * [F4] [Bertl] en este canal no hay oper x) 1138939887 M * Bertl well, I somewhat can figure the sense out of that, but what's your problem? 1138939918 M * Bertl (besides the funny color stuff and brackets :) 1138939932 M * [F4] ninguno por ¿? 1138940492 M * Skram I have a craving for ice cream. 1138940605 J * mkhl MiLLeNNiuM@200-148-41-62.dsl.telesp.net.br 1138940656 P * [F4] 1138940812 M * Bertl welcome mkhl! 1138940840 M * mkhl Bertl :) 1138943345 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-182.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1138943346 Q * Aiken Read error: Connection reset by peer 1138945595 Q * mef Remote host closed the connection 1138948283 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1138948467 Q * stefani Quit: 1138950736 M * Hollow morning 1138950986 M * Bertl good morning Hollow! 1138951288 M * Hollow hey Bertl, everything fine? 1138951443 M * Bertl yep, a little tired, but all is fine ... 1138951474 M * Hollow yeah, tired too, but school forces me to get up.. ;) 1138951530 M * Hollow btw.. what do you think about a command line like: context create 123, or context set cflags=sched_prio 123 1138951574 M * Bertl hmm ... well the create sounds fine, but how to set arguments there 1138951590 M * Hollow which arguments? 1138951591 M * Bertl the context set cflags= looks very unflexible 1138951607 M * Bertl just consider you want to set three flags and clear one? 1138951621 M * Hollow context set cflags=flag1,flag2,~flag3 1138951676 M * Bertl well, if you like it 1138951792 M * Hollow the idea is that you normally don't (shouldn't) use the syscall commmands directly, but rather user the "vserver" program... and with a command line like this, you can also write nice vserver scripts, like: 1138951797 M * Hollow #!/bin/vsh 1138951801 M * Hollow context create 123 1138951804 M * Hollow context set .. 1138951806 M * Hollow etc 1138951826 M * Hollow or you can just use them in bash, or from the command line for debugging or so, and it's all still one app 1138951880 M * Hollow (we also had the idea for a (restricted) vserver rescue shell for customers.. 1138952356 M * Bertl hmm? 1138952464 M * Hollow hmm about what? 1138952767 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-11-169.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1138952782 M * Bertl Hollow: about the rescue shell 1138952816 M * Hollow Bertl: well, if you sell vservers to customers, and they fuck it up, you can give them a rescue shell shell with some vserver commands only on the host via ssh or so 1138953262 M * Bertl hmm, why not simply use busybox for that? 1138953310 M * Hollow can it be restricted to some commands only? 1138953452 M * Bertl guess so, but does it matter? you could put it into the guest 1138953474 M * Bertl I mean, you could load the binary from the host and run it inside the guest 1138953513 M * Hollow but what if the guest does not exist anymore? (e.g. unclean reboot) 1138953538 M * Bertl then the context should be created no? 1138953566 M * Hollow but how should they start their vserver from within the context? or should just happen automagically if it doesn't exist? 1138953605 M * Bertl well, an emergancy shell means what for you? 1138953643 M * Hollow primarily: the vserver is down, for whatever reason, and it needs to be fixed before you can start it again 1138953712 M * Hollow well, we could still load busybox inside the guest, let him fix it, and start the guest via a mysterious daemon or webinterface 1138953728 M * Hollow guest means context 1138955955 J * wally ~homebase@62.116.5.114 1138956032 M * Bertl welcome wally! 1138956177 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving 1138956367 M * wally hoi again 1138956987 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1138957523 J * Diesel_boy Djisko@HSE-Ottawa-ppp239217.sympatico.ca 1138957576 M * Diesel_boy ALO 1138957609 M * Diesel_boy are there any survivers 1138957700 P * Diesel_boy 1138957999 M * Bertl well, looks like he didn't survive for long ... 1138959389 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1138959629 M * Bertl welcome prae! 1138959742 M * prae matin Bertl ! 1138959818 Q * mkhl Quit: 1138960159 Q * wally Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138960700 Q * blizz Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138962109 N * ebiederm_oO ebiederm 1138962131 M * ebiederm Bertl: You are awake days now? 1138962174 M * Bertl occasionally :) 1138962210 Q * ebiederm Quit: Leaving 1138962305 J * ebiederm ~eric@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com 1138962347 A * ebiederm bad mouse! 1138962381 M * ebiederm I go to move my window and it kills it. 1138962413 M * Bertl very bad mouse indeed! 1138962595 J * wally ~homebase@intranet-gw.1090.kapper.net 1138962831 M * mugwump http://utsl.gen.nz/vserver/patch-plan.txt # better ? :) 1138962941 M * Bertl mugwump: the first part of bme seems to get slowly in right now 1138962973 M * Bertl what's struct and ps addition? 1138962973 M * mugwump cool! I'll pull Linus' git repo tomorrow 1138962987 M * mugwump er, vs_context.h, context.c 1138962993 M * mugwump and additions to sched.h 1138963005 M * Bertl aha, i.c. ... 1138963017 M * mugwump http://utsl.gen.nz/vserver/patches-split/mine/2.6.16-rc1%2bgit-vserver-inclusion/1a-context 1138963034 M * mugwump damn, mime type. 1138963036 M * Bertl well, I'd tend to categorize it in linux-vserver independant features 1138963047 M * Bertl and linux-vserver specific features 1138963070 M * Bertl the bme, split, CoW and similar are 100% independant 1138963102 M * mugwump Doesn't CoW need some kind of tagging? 1138963104 M * Bertl then there is the virtualization area, where linux-vserver is prefering isolation over virtualization for now 1138963133 M * mugwump well, isolation is section 2:) 1138963150 M * Bertl this will get (at least partially) replaced by a 'common' virtualization mechanism 1138963151 M * Bertl e.g. the vpid approach from eric, or similar 1138963153 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-196.lhi.is 1138963172 J * shed| ~siggi@tolvudeild-196.lhi.is 1138963172 M * Bertl namespace are such virtualizations which already got in mainline :) 1138963173 Q * shed| Quit: 1138963194 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de 1138963215 M * Bertl then there is the linux-vserver specific category, with all the accounting, caps and fake infos 1138963218 M * mugwump I didn't want to talk about PID virtualisation at this point ;) 1138963260 M * mugwump Couldn't that hang off the vx_info? 1138963268 M * Bertl and after that I see the really really vserver specific stuff like quota hashes and xid tagging 1138963315 M * mugwump hmm, I was just fixing the obvious warts before I go to bed... I'll consider it over the weekend (a long weekend here in NZ) 1138963328 M * Bertl well, the pid virtualization (once it is in mainline) will work like the namespaces 1138963340 M * Bertl we keep a reference to enter, but the rest is independant 1138963358 M * Bertl mugwump: yeah, just a few ideas/opinions from my side ... 1138963556 M * ebiederm Bertl: We once talked about a light weight applications run in a vserver context and how you fake an init process for them. 1138963594 M * ebiederm And how my current approach appears to have a noticable overhead for that case. 1138963607 M * ebiederm Because I actually require an init process. 1138963636 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio84.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1138963636 M * ebiederm You suggested sharing init processes between guests. 1138963659 M * Bertl ebiederm: yup? 1138963672 M * Bertl welcome blizz and Milf! 1138963679 M * mugwump ok, another update, 'night :) 1138963685 A * mugwump sleeps & 1138963699 M * ebiederm Would linuxthreads style threading work for that sharing? CLONE_VM but not CLONE_THREAD? 1138963743 M * Bertl hmm, could do, but what about security implications? 1138963769 M * Milf Hello Bertl, you having a day off work? 1138963820 M * ebiederm Bertl: I'm not certain. That was just my brainstorm on reducing overhead without changing my implemenation. 1138963865 M * Bertl Milf: more a day of work, actually :) 1138963900 M * Bertl ebiederm: the 'pid=1' entry is just for cosmetics 1138963941 M * Bertl ebiederm: don't worry too much about it, the important detail would be to have a way to 'reserve' pid=1 and start with pid=2 for whatever you spawn 1138963962 M * Bertl ebiederm: in this case you can later simply put a fake entry for pid=1 1138963984 M * Bertl (which does not necessarily have to happen in mainline) 1138964005 M * Bertl *has 1138964079 M * Bertl the basic requirements for the implementation would be (IMHO) 1138964095 M * Bertl - allow to have a context without the magic pid=1 1138964116 M * Bertl - do not start killing around when the 'initial' process exits 1138964129 M * Bertl (and some other processes are still running) 1138964155 M * Bertl you could even simply it to: 1138964167 M * Bertl - allow init to exit without reaping the context 1138964220 M * Bertl in which case the kickstart process would just exit once the runlevel scripts (and services) have been executed (started) 1138964630 M * ebiederm Bertl: That might work. The nasty bit is that how do you deal with zombies when your child reaper exits. 1138964691 M * Bertl couldn't we simply 'reparent them to the master-reaper somehow? 1138964720 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1138964722 M * Bertl maybe have the/a 'kernel' init which does this 1138964727 M * Bertl welcome mcp! 1138964912 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-245-220.netcologne.de 1138965014 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138965014 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1138965042 M * ebiederm Bertl: probably it is something to think about. 1138965174 Q * wally Read error: Connection reset by peer 1138965383 Q * Vudumen_ Remote host closed the connection 1138965385 J * MartinZd martin@84-245-81-250-broadband.iol.sk 1138965512 M * Bertl welcome MartinZd! 1138965587 M * MartinZd hi. pls help. i have server with eth1 (1.2.3.4) and eth0 (192.168.0.1). vserver runs on eth0:virt 192.168.0.2. now the problem: if i make tcp connection from vserver to some daemon on server, then the daemon shows remote ip 1.2.3.4. why? 1138965668 M * Bertl your host (the phyiscal machine) has ip 1.2.3.4 and 192.168.0.1, yes? 1138965674 M * MartinZd yes 1138965688 M * Bertl the guest has 192.168.0.2 (as only ip) 1138965693 M * MartinZd yes 1138965718 M * Bertl now you connect from the guest to the host 1138965730 M * MartinZd exactly 1138965751 M * Bertl and the host shows the 1.2.3.4 ip? 1138965755 M * MartinZd eg. php script on server 1138965823 M * MartinZd the same for ldap (i need access to * by peername.regex=192.168.0.2 read on server) 1138965854 M * MartinZd but in ldap logs i see: conn=7 fd=9 ACCEPT from IP=217.67.26.150:37760 (IP=0.0.0.0:389) 1138965869 M * MartinZd 217.67.26.150 = 1.2.3.4 in our case ;) 1138965875 M * Bertl oops :) 1138965928 M * MartinZd any idea? 1138965956 M * Bertl well, first, what versions (kernel/patch/tools) do you use? 1138965956 M * MartinZd btw i use vserver from debian sarge 1138965981 M * MartinZd all is original from debian sarge ... 2.6.8 1138966030 M * MartinZd + debian vserver patch 1138966070 M * Bertl well, that could be the problem ... 1138966085 J * Doener doener@i5387E45D.versanet.de 1138966096 M * Bertl there should be drastically newer versions in testing/unstable 1138966210 M * MartinZd :) i understand, but i'd like to stay with stable. i can live with that bug? for now .. 1138966225 M * Bertl but just to clarify, before we call it a bug :) 1138966242 M * Bertl you contact the host via 192.168.0.1 not 1.2.3.4, yes? 1138966380 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-220-26.netcologne.de 1138966380 M * MartinZd on vserver (192.168.0.2) i do: telnet 192.168.0.1 80 1138966406 M * MartinZd and that php script replies: 1.2.3.4 1138966413 M * MartinZd as $REMOTE_ADDR 1138966441 M * MartinZd btw apache listens on 0.0.0.0:80 1138966494 M * Bertl hmm, let me try that ... 1138966504 M * MartinZd if you want, i can mail tou ifcounfig and route output + vserver.conf 1138966524 M * Bertl first let me see if I can reprocude that 1138966527 M * MartinZd ok 1138966600 M * MartinZd i appreciate it :) 1138966664 M * daniel_hozac vserver.conf? 1138966671 M * daniel_hozac you're using legacy configuration too? 1138966683 M * MartinZd yes 1138966695 M * MartinZd WARNING: can not find configuration, assuming legacy method 1138966709 M * MartinZd its default on debian sarge 1138966734 N * ebiederm ebiederm_oO 1138966763 M * Bertl hmm, seems to work fine here, I'll upload the test setup 1138966782 M * MartinZd ok 1138966789 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138966835 M * Bertl http://pastebin.com/536753 1138966846 M * Bertl I guess that should resemble your setup, no? 1138966873 M * Bertl (scratch the first ifconfig eth0, it's a bug) 1138966916 M * Bertl MartinZd: would be nice if you could try similar with netcat and telnet in your setup 1138966925 M * Bertl basically: 1138966934 M * Bertl # 1138966938 M * Bertl nc -vvv -l -p 666 & 1138966961 M * Bertl chbind --ip 192.168.0.2 -- telnet 192.168.0.1 666 1138967117 M * MartinZd i don't have chbind .. 1138967141 M * Bertl hmm, you're sure you are using linux-vserver then? 1138967148 M * MartinZd what deb package it should be in? 1138967154 M * Bertl util-vserver 1138967189 M * MartinZd :) i see .. i was looking for it on vserver 1138967192 M * MartinZd mmnt 1138967207 M * Bertl the commands above are for the host :) 1138967271 M * MartinZd ok.. want to see the output here? 1138967285 M * MartinZd ipv4root is now 192.168.0.2 1138967288 M * MartinZd Trying 192.168.0.1... 1138967297 M * MartinZd connect to [192.168.0.1] from shop.sme.sk [217.67.26.150] 41644 1138967301 M * MartinZd Connected to 192.168.0.1. 1138967304 M * MartinZd Escape character is '^]'. 1138967315 M * MartinZd 217.67.26.150 = 1.2.3.4 ;) 1138967321 M * Bertl okay, it's a test system you have physical access to? 1138967338 M * MartinZd no. its production server 1138967342 M * Bertl (or at least remote console?) 1138967360 M * MartinZd i connect using ssh 1138967363 M * MartinZd why? 1138967379 M * Bertl well, IMHO there are two possible causes for this behaviour 1138967390 M * Bertl - the debian kernel is broken (we know that) 1138967405 M * Bertl - some iptables/firewall rule is rewriting the ip 1138967428 M * MartinZd ah .... well, i'll chack iptables 1138967437 M * Bertl so .. as folks did not report this specific brokeness for the debian kernel, I'd personally opt for the second one 1138967471 M * blizz hiho vserver folks 1138967486 M * Bertl hiho blizz person! 1138967492 M * blizz :) 1138967567 M * MartinZd aw sht! .. you were right !!! sorry! 1138967577 M * MartinZd this had helped: iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.2 -j SNAT --to-source 217.67.26.150 1138967596 M * MartinZd thanks very much for your effort :) 1138967646 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1138967717 M * MartinZd but i wonder why was that rule used, because of POSTROUTING ... 1138967748 M * MartinZd does vserver use the same iptables tables as host? 1138967766 M * Bertl yes, as the networking _is_ on the host, it has to :) 1138967795 M * MartinZd i see. ok, thanks much again :) 1138967806 M * MartinZd Bertl: are you a vserver developer? 1138967806 M * Bertl np, have fun! 1138967821 M * Bertl well, occasionally I do the kernel stuff :) 1138967828 M * MartinZd ;) 1138967847 M * MartinZd i am leaving .... bye! 1138967854 M * Bertl cya! 1138968820 J * lilalinux ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net 1138969863 J * yodahome ~yoda@pD9514AD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1138969899 M * yodahome Hi @ all! 1138969904 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138970003 M * yodahome I've got this little problem with my VServer installation. Since the update to 2.01 (utils from 208 to 209) my debian based clients won't boot anymore. (see mailing list) Anybody ever had a comparable problem? 1138970046 M * Bertl hmm, no, not yet ... 1138970065 M * Bertl yodahome: how do they 'refuse' to boot? 1138970107 M * yodahome save_ctxinfo: execv(): No such file or directory 1138970107 M * yodahome that's the error message, but the file is in place and executable. 1138970357 M * Bertl okay, let's start with the usualy 'testme.sh' output (please upload to pastebin.com or so) 1138970358 M * daniel_hozac tagxid? 1138970392 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: could be, but could also be strange flags/perms on directories all over the place :) 1138970519 M * yodahome ok, here you are... but everything succeeds. http://pastebin.com/536821 1138970542 M * Bertl yodahome: btw, what does /usr/lib/util-vserver/save_ctxinfo say? 1138970585 M * Bertl yodahome: could you do me a favor and redo the testme.sh tests with the latest testme.sh version? 1138970602 M * yodahome oh, of course 1138970637 M * yodahome save_ctxinfo says: Usage: save_ctxinfo * 1138970821 M * yodahome Sorry, but where do I find the newer testme? It's not this one wget http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh right? 1138970875 M * Bertl this is a link to the latest version 1138970894 M * yodahome btw the funny thing is that all clients based on Fedora do work while the ones with debian on them don't. 1138970895 M * Bertl (it points to 0.15, you used 0.14) 1138970977 M * yodahome ah, ok, got it... http://pastebin.com/536829 1138971000 M * Bertl tx 1138971058 M * Bertl okay, looks fine so far ... 1138971090 M * Bertl now let's do the 'vserver --debug start' part and upload the output somewhere 1138971274 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975D4C.dip.t-dialin.net 1138971284 M * yodahome ok looks like this http://pastebin.com/536835 1138971319 J * BartVB ~BartVB@84.35.54.120 1138971328 M * Bertl welcome BartVB! 1138971333 M * BartVB hi there. 1138971349 M * BartVB short question. Does anyone have an example /etc/network/interfaces handy for Debian? 1138971371 M * BartVB can't find any documentation about setting up the networking stuff :\ 1138971383 M * Bertl hum... 1138971388 M * BartVB and 'ifconfig' just shows an unconfigured eth0 at the moment... 1138971398 M * Doener BartVB: try "ip a" instead 1138971415 M * Doener you probably just have no alias set (default), thus ifconfig can't see the address 1138971428 M * BartVB don't have an 'ip' command on the vserver? 1138971433 M * Bertl BartVB: because ifconfig is ancient :) 1138971440 M * Doener install "iproute" 1138971443 M * Doener ;) 1138971464 M * Doener ifconfig uses the old ioctl api, which only supports named interface addresses 1138971464 M * BartVB ah. 1138971466 M * BartVB there it is :) 1138971467 M * BartVB hmm 1138971490 M * BartVB lots of apps find the available networking stuff by parsing the output of 'ifconfig'... 1138971511 M * Doener lots of? i only know confixx does so... and that's crap ;) 1138971514 M * BartVB but indeed, 'ip a' shows the correct IP etc. 1138971519 M * daniel_hozac yodahome: ls -l /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/etc/init.d/rc 1138971560 M * BartVB I guess I'll just see what happens without a properly setup ifconfig. I'll come back and whine here if I run into problems :P 1138971561 M * Doener anyway, you can do: echo Bob > interfaces/0/name 1138971569 M * yodahome -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2235 10. Sep 2004 /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/etc/init.d/rc 1138971580 M * BartVB BTW is it normal that I can't ping localhost from the vserver? 1138971587 M * Doener that'll create eth0:Bob as an alias for that ip address 1138971589 M * daniel_hozac yodahome: are you using tagxid? 1138971594 M * Bertl yodahome: 'ls -la /usr/bin/env'? 1138971629 M * Doener yodahome: ls -l /etc/vservers/debian_1/run 1138971645 M * yodahome @ daniel_hozac: don't know, is it default? 1138971664 M * yodahome lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 16. Sep 13:28 /usr/bin/env -> ../../bin/env 1138971760 M * Bertl yodahome: head -1 /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/etc/init.d/rc 1138971788 M * Bertl yodahome: and don't forget Doener's ls -l :) 1138971826 M * yodahome @ Doener: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 10. Nov 14:57 /etc/vservers/debian_1/run -> /var/run/vservers/debian_1 1138971902 M * BartVB thanks all :) It's working now. I can ssh to the vserver :D Splendid :) 1138971904 M * yodahome @ Bertl: head of rc at the end of pastbin entry 1138971993 M * yodahome but its just comments 1138972011 M * Bertl hum, I don't see it, it's just a line so please paste it here 1138972070 M * yodahome no, actually its more than one line... 1138972078 M * Bertl huh? 1138972088 M * yodahome mom 1138972111 M * Doener head -1 is always one line... 1138972121 M * yodahome ah, here: #! /bin/sh 1138972158 M * Bertl good, and 'ls -la /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/bin/sh' 1138972177 M * yodahome lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 3. Feb 12:29 /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/bin/sh -> bash 1138972202 M * Bertl ls -la /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/bin/bash' 1138972217 M * Bertl without the prime 1138972221 M * yodahome -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 625228 19. Dez 2004 /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/bin/bash 1138972241 M * Bertl okay, and now let's try: 1138972259 M * Bertl chroot /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir/ /bin/sh 1138972280 M * yodahome ok, then? 1138972290 M * Bertl I assume that worked, yes? 1138972301 M * yodahome jepp, it's root now 1138972315 M * Bertl hmm, okay, CTRL-D 1138972514 M * Bertl okay, let's try: 1138972522 M * Bertl /usr/sbin/chbind --silent --ip 192.168.1.221/24 -- /usr/lib/util-vserver/exec-ulimit /etc/vservers/debian_1/ulimits /usr/sbin/vcontext --create --silent --xid 54 -- /usr/sbin/vnamespace --set -- /usr/sbin/vlimit --dir /etc/vservers/debian_1/rlimits --missingok -- /usr/sbin/vsched --xid self -- /usr/sbin/vuname --xid self --dir /etc/vservers/debian_1/uts --missingok -- /usr/sbin/vuname --xid self --set -t context=/etc/vservers/debian_1 -- /usr/sbin/vattribute - 1138972538 M * daniel_hozac i think that got cut off. 1138972557 M * yodahome after vattribute -... 1138972571 M * Bertl really, well I use pastebin, sec 1138972610 M * Bertl http://pastebin.com/536862 1138972655 M * yodahome ahh: save_ctxinfo: open("/var/run/vservers/debian_1"): File exists 1138972683 M * Bertl now do: rm -f /var/run/vservers/debian_1 1138972686 M * Bertl and retry 1138972718 M * yodahome vcontext: execvp("/etc/init.d/rc"): No such file or directory 1138972735 M * Bertl okay, again the rm, then change the /usr/bin/env to /bin/env 1138972793 M * yodahome same thing: vcontext: execvp("/etc/init.d/rc"): No such file or directory 1138972806 M * Doener cd /etc/vservers/debian_1/vdir 1138972820 M * Doener that long line tries to "chroot ." 1138972823 M * Bertl okay, I guess we know now what it is ... 1138972833 M * Doener i.e. expects you to be in the vserver root dir 1138972852 M * Bertl Doener: which is fine, but the permissions are not 1138972887 M * Bertl yodahome: your guest is in /var/lib/vservers/debian_1 ? 1138972904 M * Doener Bertl: hm? if he didn't cd first, that line cannot succeed 1138972940 M * Bertl Doener: hmm, right, sorry ... 1138972959 M * yodahome the vdir? it's /vservers/debian_1 1138972980 M * Bertl okay, then let's check the following and then retry from the guest dir 1138973011 M * Bertl ls -lda /{,vservers} /vservers/debian_1 1138973108 M * yodahome drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 4096 3. Feb 12:40 / 1138973108 M * yodahome drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 3. Feb 12:36 /vservers 1138973108 M * yodahome drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 1. Nov 14:07 /vservers/debian_1 1138973177 M * Doener yodahome: hm, you have /vservers... please do: ls -ld /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase 1138973197 M * yodahome lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 13. Jan 13:14 /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase -> /vservers 1138973207 M * Doener ok :( no banana for me 1138973222 M * yodahome Sorry *g* 1138973280 M * daniel_hozac redo Bertl's command, but replace ls -lda with showattr -d 1138973290 M * Bertl showattr -d /{,vservers} /vservers/debian_1 1138973297 M * Bertl :) 1138973322 M * yodahome ---bui- / 1138973322 M * yodahome ---bui- /vservers 1138973322 M * yodahome ---bui- /vservers/debian_1 1138973390 M * Bertl well, no indication of a barrier or permission issues there 1138973446 M * Bertl now let's try the ultra-long command line again, but after you did: 1138973456 M * Bertl cd /vservers/debian_1 1138973470 M * Bertl (again, do the rm before) 1138973490 M * yodahome ok, with /bin/env? 1138973561 M * Bertl hmm, why not 1138973598 M * yodahome yeah, he booted (i suppose): 1138973599 M * yodahome Starting system log daemon: syslogdstart-stop-daemon: nothing in /proc - not mounted? 1138973599 M * yodahome . 1138973599 M * yodahome Starting kernel log daemon: klogdstart-stop-daemon: nothing in /proc - not mounted? 1138973599 M * yodahome . 1138973599 M * yodahome Starting internet superserver: inetd. 1138973599 M * yodahome Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. 1138973601 M * yodahome Starting periodic command scheduler: cron. 1138973620 M * Bertl okay, then let's shut it down again (maybe that works now :) 1138973640 M * Bertl and retry with the /usr/bin/env 1138973772 M * yodahome ok, he shut down (with dirty messages but anyway) and booted again with /usr/bin/env 1138973959 M * Doener *lol* 1138973966 M * Doener your tools have a will of their own ;) 1138973969 M * Bertl well well ... I gues the vserver debian_1 start still fails, yes? 1138974046 M * yodahome yes, it does. 1138974122 M * Bertl so .. just to clarify that, the very same line which works when you execute it directly, fails when the script does so 1138974123 M * yodahome @ Doener: Tell me about it... 1138974155 M * yodahome Right, at least it looks like it does... 1138974179 M * Doener yodahome: hm? just means that they seem to act like they simply don't like you to start the vserver ;) 1138974237 M * yodahome Yes, those are really nasty utils, aren"t they... 1138974317 M * Bertl could you also upload the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' again please? 1138974391 M * yodahome ok, at the beginning: http://pastebin.com/536890 1138974466 M * Bertl well, everything looks fine ... 1138974534 M * Bertl hmm ... 1138974541 M * Bertl # 1138974541 M * Bertl exec /usr/sbin/vnamespace --new -- /usr/sbin/vserver ----nonamespace --debug debian_1 start 1138974544 M * Bertl # 1138974555 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1138974718 M * yodahome ok,beginning again: http://pastebin.com/536894 1138974845 M * Bertl is /vservers a mountpoint? 1138974873 M * yodahome yes it is since today, has been a directory before but we ran out of space... 1138974955 M * Bertl aha, but that didn't change anything, right? 1138974968 M * yodahome right. 1138975016 P * MartinZd 1138975016 M * Bertl could there be anything in your bash profile which does some kind of restricted shell stuff? 1138975099 M * yodahome Don't think so, can't remember I changed anythin 1138975102 M * yodahome g 1138975184 M * Bertl dietlibc is what version? 1138975288 M * Bertl (diet will tell you) 1138975375 J * shedi ~siggi@hlussa2.lhi.is 1138975380 M * yodahome hmm, just had a quick look at the bash profile... but found nothing... diet is 0.29(-2.fc4) 1138975459 M * yodahome I'm sorry but unfortuneately I have to leave now... can we continue with this next week (i'll be probably here on thursday) 1138975463 M * yodahome ? 1138975478 M * Bertl okay, np, I'm out of ideas for now anyway :) 1138975498 M * yodahome ok, thank you for the time! 1138975510 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1138975527 M * yodahome Have a nice weekend! 1138975534 M * yodahome All of you. 1138975553 M * yodahome Bye. 1138975553 P * yodahome 1138975687 M * Bertl well, that is definitely weird ... 1138976010 Q * entroposcope Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138976550 M * Bertl okidokili ... I guess I need some sleep now ... 1138976567 M * daniel_hozac good night! 1138976586 M * Bertl tx, cya later folks! 1138976592 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1138977084 M * __Roey hi 1138977090 M * __Roey hey Daniel, Yoda, Bertl. 1138977094 N * __Roey Roey 1138977106 M * daniel_hozac hi 1138977116 M * Roey Is it possible to use vserver + openmosix ? 1138977184 Q * emp Quit: Leaving 1138977268 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com 1138977655 Q * Milf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138977786 M * cehteh Roey: long ago it worked .. you might try again 1138978020 M * Roey cehteh: ok 1138978555 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138980628 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p54975EB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1138980665 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: 1138981006 M * brc_ Bertl there ? 1138981012 M * brc_ can a process nice be altered inside a vserver ? 1138981060 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138981120 M * daniel_hozac brc_: only to a lower value, IIRC. 1138981624 Q * BartVB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138981869 M * brc_ one of my users is setting nice to 0 , but it goes to 19 by itself 1138981869 M * brc_ :) 1138981872 M * brc_ so it is not possible 1138982145 M * daniel_hozac well, by lower i actually meant higher :) 1138982205 M * brc_ i mean -19 1138982217 M * brc_ You mean, lower priority, right ? -19 1138982328 M * daniel_hozac does the guest have CAP_SYS_NICE? 1138982564 M * brc_ no! 1138982569 M * brc_ should i give him ? 1138982583 M * brc_ what woudl be the negative point about that 1138983019 M * daniel_hozac CAP_SYS_NICE would allow the guest to set the nice value to anything. 1138983061 M * brc_ is that bad at all ? 1138983132 M * daniel_hozac well, you don't want your guests setting their nice values to -19. 1138983405 M * brc_ ok got it 1138983440 M * brc_ what i want they to do is: Set nice for the TS proccess to 0, and other proccess to 19. so TS will have highest priority 1138983856 N * click_ click 1138983919 M * daniel_hozac that should be possible. 1138984687 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1138984957 M * Roey hi stefani 1138985169 M * stefani hola 1138985681 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975EB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1138986389 J * mkhl MiLLeNNiuM@200-148-41-62.dsl.telesp.net.br 1138986722 J * dearaujo ~dan@pixpat.austin.ibm.com 1138987427 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1138989176 M * Skram hercules linux # modprobe nfs 1138989176 M * Skram WARNING: Error inserting sunrpc (/lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.0.1-gentoo/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) 1138989180 M * Skram WARNING: Error inserting lockd (/lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.0.1-gentoo/kernel/fs/lockd/lockd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) 1138989183 M * Skram FATAL: Error inserting nfs (/lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.0.1-gentoo/kernel/fs/nfs/nfs.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) 1138989186 M * Skram anyideas? 1138989328 M * mnemoc dmesg :) 1138989420 M * Skram yeah 1138989425 M * Skram doesnt tell anything 1138989433 M * Skram someone says i need "netblock" in the kernel? 1138989596 M * mnemoc probably... you have to see what symbols are you missing and how provide them 1138989818 J * Vudumen vudumen@217.20.138.8 1138990617 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1138991370 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p54975EB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1138991479 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138992182 J * djudko ~davej@129.33.1.37 1138992214 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138992987 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1138993970 M * dearaujo anyway I can stop the "shutting down kernel logger: failed" message? 1138994137 M * daniel_hozac comment the klogd lines in that init script. 1138994524 M * dearaujo great, thanks 1138994727 J * Vudumen vudumen@217.20.138.8 1138994959 Q * mkhl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1138995593 Q * lonewolff Read error: Connection reset by peer 1138995627 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host-84-9-143-159.bulldogdsl.com 1138996240 J * SonicvanaJr ~Sonic@cblmdm72-240-97-94.buckeyecom.net 1138996245 P * SonicvanaJr 1138997885 P * dearaujo 1138999252 Q * tudenbart Quit: be root, reboot 1139002018 Q * djudko Quit: Leaving 1139002212 J * brady ~brady@166.114.140.78 1139002777 Q * shuri Quit: Quitte 1139002785 Q * brady Quit: Abandonando 1139002900 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1139003754 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1139004604 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1139006371 Q * Roey Quit: Leaving 1139007390 Q * liquid3649_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1139008637 P * meandtheshell 1139009616 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1139009623 M * Bertl morning folks! 1139009746 M * michal_ hey Bertl ! 1139009763 A * michal_ have just discover something shocking 1139009790 M * michal_ linux is lowering dpi setting for mouses :/ 1139009827 M * michal_ my simple logitech was running on 400 dpi while after one simple command it is now running on 800 dpi and difference is huge 1139009834 M * michal_ i cannot get why it is so 1139010152 M * Bertl well, 800dpi would be nice for a 400dpi mouse, no? 1139010359 M * michal_ sure 1139010393 M * michal_ but... linux drivers should read out (it is possible) dpi setting during start and set acordingly 1139010415 M * michal_ to higest possible dpi for detected model 1139010437 M * michal_ and give some way (module parameter) to lower it if needed 1139010455 M * michal_ or th other way, just a semantic... 1139010459 M * Bertl well, in theory, yes ... and now, maybe they do, no? 1139010486 M * michal_ they don't - my mouse was running 400 and (using some utility) i have managed to set 800 1139010496 M * Bertl the question is, what resolution has your mouse? 1139010507 M * michal_ 800 natively (as in the manual) 1139010532 M * Bertl and what utility did you use? 1139010560 M * michal_ logitech_applet 1139010575 M * michal_ same results (and much more for a few models) can do lmctl 1139010587 M * michal_ 001/004 046D/C00E M-BJ58 Wheel Mouse Optical 1139010587 M * michal_ Resolution: 800cpi 1139010608 M * Bertl well, probably they have some proprietary switch in the thing 1139010626 M * Bertl logitech is still claiming that their mouses do not work on linux 1139010654 M * Bertl (or at least that they do not support linux) 1139010689 M * michal_ yes, only 3rd party software, written deep night by skilled souls works 1139010782 M * Bertl so I guess the linux (kernel) folks still have no clue and support what the mouse 'reports' 1139010797 M * michal_ yep 1139010798 M * Bertl (or some default setting which is fine for most of them) 1139010825 M * michal_ probably the compatibility wins here - 400 dpi just works 1139010834 M * michal_ without any detecting it can be set blind 1139011162 M * Bertl anyway, tx for the lmctl tip :) 1139011181 M * michal_ you're welcome :] 1139011186 M * michal_ which mouse do you have ?