1136332813 M * waldi hmm, I make something wrong: "chbind: vc_set_ipv4root(): Invalid argument" 1136332865 M * Bertl lol 1136332891 M * Bertl what .config did you use, and what tools? 1136332907 M * waldi ist a legacynet kernel with 0.30.209 1136332920 M * Bertl 2.1.0? 1136332928 M * waldi 2.0.1 1136332943 M * Bertl then you did something wrong ... 1136332956 M * derjohn waldi, you know about testme.sh (sp?) script 1136332980 M * Bertl waldi: let's first check with 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' (plz upload somewhere) 1136333101 M * derjohn Bertl, does chbind run without vprocunhide? (just curious - dont have a machine without by hand) 1136333123 M * Bertl yeah, all tools should work without proc 1136333197 M * waldi Bertl: waldi.eu.org/~bastian/sysinfo 1136333268 M * Bertl okay, looks good, on x86, yes? 1136333272 M * waldi yes 1136333280 M * Bertl waldi: next step is the 'famous' testme.sh :) 1136333288 M * waldi which one? 1136333312 M * Bertl always the latests, so http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1136333327 M * derjohn Bertl, start the URL bot ... or is it included in th deb package since micah co maintans? 1136333334 M * Bertl waldi: (again, plz upload) 1136333343 M * derjohn Bertl, outperformed me ;( 1136333420 M * waldi Bertl: waldi.eu.org/~bastian/testme 1136333537 Q * derjohn Remote host closed the connection 1136333765 M * Bertl waldi: you disabled legacynet 1136333783 M * Bertl (and enabled ngnet instead :) 1136333799 M * waldi hmm, CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACYNET=y 1136333810 M * Bertl not in your kernel 1136333831 M * Bertl hmm, no, sorry ... 1136333873 M * Bertl legacynet is enabled, but legacy is disabled 1136333907 M * Bertl CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY is missing 1136333943 M * FaUl *gaehn* 1136333944 M * Bertl I should really write a script to parse the VCI info :) 1136333963 M * waldi Bertl: why does LEGACYNET not depend on LEGACY? 1136333990 M * Bertl well, that's a little complicated 1136334004 M * Bertl in the near future (with ngnet) it will depend on legacy 1136334017 M * kilian Bertl: wasn't it that LEGACY was bad and security-flawed? 1136334042 M * Bertl kilian: not that I know of ... but it's a deprecated interface, yes 1136334042 M * kilian Bertl: or was that just with the tools using legacy? 1136334057 M * kilian mmh, offering too much access when being used etc., right? 1136334076 M * Bertl the thing is, once util-vserver switches to the new networking interface, the CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY will not be required 1136334094 M * Bertl (new means being around for a year now) 1136334116 M * kilian so you mean you just miss a non-legacy-start-wrapper? 1136334129 M * Bertl a replacement/modification for chbind 1136334148 M * Bertl Hollow's tools can live without the LEGACY 1136334165 M * Bertl (but they do not cover guest creation and such) 1136334542 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: who did you say was working? on the chbind de-legacy-fication? 1136334625 M * kilian Bertl: and why are these new functions not included into enrico's version? there has apparently not been any update since 209, right? 1136334738 M * Bertl kilian: guess because Enrico is busy and didn't find the time to do it :) 1136334893 M * kilian mmh, right.. why o why didn't i just find that answer =) 1136334919 M * Bertl it should not be too hard to do that ... 1136334945 M * Bertl so maybe if you send him email, he will give it some priority ... 1136334980 M * Bertl (maybe it's already in cvs, haven't checked) 1136335880 M * Skram Anyone made Ubuntu Images? 1136335919 M * Bertl guest images based on ubuntu, or guest images for ubuntu? 1136335941 M * Skram sorry, guest images based on gentoo, for use on a gentoo vpshost 1136335971 M * Bertl hmm :) 1136336087 M * Skram ? 1136336121 M * Bertl so you're sure it's gentoo, not ubuntu? 1136336138 M * Bertl there should be a baselayout for the guests 1136336195 M * Skram ill look again 1136336196 M * Skram sorry 1136336589 J * VooDooMaster ~icechat5@p549CA279.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1136336672 M * VooDooMaster hi! how can I mount something I forgot to enter in /etc/vservers//fstab? ... I put it in fstab but I cannot restart the vserver atm 1136336747 M * Bertl VooDooMaster: just enter the guest namespace and mount it there 1136336763 M * VooDooMaster bertl: how? 1136336812 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: Warnung: Konnte /etc/fstab nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden 1136336952 M * Bertl vnamespace -e -- mount what where 1136337132 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: how can I mount home? mount --bind -o rw /home /home? 1136337148 M * Bertl VooDooMaster: well, I doubt you want to do that :) 1136337155 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: Is there any Doc about these v*-Tools? (like vnamespace) 1136337162 M * Bertl more likely you want something like: 1136337193 M * Bertl vnamespace -e -- mount --bind /home /vservers//home 1136337218 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: :) ... it's a testing server ... and I want to have ma testers home present in all vservers 1136337335 M * Bertl well, that's what the command does :) 1136337352 M * Bertl (at least for the guest ) 1136337430 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: Wow! It woks! Many thanks! ... but I see the /home-mount on my root-server mount command - is that ok? 1136337452 M * VooDooMaster I don't see my other vserver mounts in there ... 1136337505 M * Bertl that's because your mount command was without -n 1136337523 M * Bertl you can 'simply' remove the appropriate line from /etc/mtab (on the host) 1136337560 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: Is there any Docu about how to gib vservers more/special rights on the host? I promised one of the gentoo-devs to test the capi+capi4hylafax+hylafax and wnat to put it into a vserver 1136337588 M * Bertl well, depends on what the capi stuff requires 1136337617 M * Bertl if it is written properly (in the kernel) then you just have to copy a few devices 1136337642 M * Bertl if there are 'special' checks, you might need to add a few bcaps 1136337650 M * VooDooMaster Betl: That sounds good ... 1136337686 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: What are bcaps ;) ... do you have any good v*-tools-docu-links for me to read? 1136337755 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: Totally other question: Is it possible to have more than one vserver running apache on one box? what do I have to do on the root-server to manage this? 1136337777 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: I haven't tried this yet. 1136337783 M * Bertl they (bcaps) are not vserver specific, they are linux properties 1136337815 M * Bertl well, usually providers have one apache per guest, so yes :) 1136337851 M * Bertl as usual, you want to either restrict the host's apache, or disable it completely (i.e. move it into a guest) 1136337994 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: what distro do you use? *curious* 1136338052 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: My host should have no apache ... but it would be nice to have more vservers with a running apache ... 1136338106 M * VooDooMaster Baert: Maybe even one VServer with the rights to "see" almost everything on the root-server ... uptime, diskspace ... is that possible? -> yes? --> how? ;) 1136338138 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: I'm far away fomr being a provider - but it would be nixce to know how it's done ;) 1136338220 M * Bertl well, I personally use some heavily modified Mandrake version 1136338261 M * bragon that's suprised me 1136338267 M * Bertl VooDooMaster: you can give as many capabilities as you like to a guest ... at some point it becomes as powerful as the host 1136338276 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: Ah. ok. I'm using Gentoo 1136338301 M * bragon Bertl do you have a job where you live ? 1136338325 M * undefined bragon: does kinda make you wonder as much as he's on IRC ;) 1136338350 M * Bertl bragon: yes, I'm doing IT Consulting ... 1136338391 M * bragon undefined: sorry i haven't understand your sentence 1136338426 M * bragon Bertl for a IT socity or do you work just for you ? 1136338452 M * undefined bragon: bertl is on irc so much (and not only on irc, but answering everybody's questions; very appreciated, bertl) i wonder how he gets any work done 1136338461 M * Bertl bragon: self employed 1136338468 M * bragon undefined: i think same 1136338517 M * bragon Bertl how could you win money if you are always here to help us ? 1136338610 M * bragon i search a C langage teacher 1136338625 M * Bertl bragon: well, I do not gamble, so I don't 'win' money :) but the consulting pays my bills (also means that I have to spend at least 40% of my time for consulting, not Linux-VServer) 1136338652 M * bragon ok 1136338676 M * Bertl of course, donations are always welcome! 1136338723 M * bragon do you know a person who can help me in C langage ? (i can spend money for that) 1136338764 M * bragon i really want to learn 1136338766 M * Bertl I would buy a few books for that, e.g. K&R 1136338781 M * bragon i ever have 3 or 4 books ... 1136338784 M * bragon but 1136338794 M * bragon when i want to make a program 1136338804 M * bragon i have the white page syndrom 1136338820 M * Bertl trust me, if you code all the examples given in K&R, you know C :) 1136338878 M * bragon i think book it's not for me at all :/ 1136338936 M * VooDooMaster bragon: yeah ... and after that ... think about something you want to code .. code it ... and at the "end" of the project you have learned so much about coding that you can rewrite the whole thing :) 1136338995 M * bragon it's true 1136339024 M * bragon i have make that but it's a neebee coding 1136339040 M * bragon http://alex.aec-ri.com/liste.txt 1136339048 M * bragon s/neebee/newbee 1136339136 M * bragon and i have no goal 1136339139 M * bragon :/ 1136339314 M * Bertl well, can't understand a word in it :) but guess it will do what you want ... 1136339323 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-243-166.netcologne.de 1136339350 M * Bertl it largely depends on what you want to code (in the future) kernel uses a different coding style/method than userspace for example 1136339413 M * bragon i prefere network application 1136339429 M * bragon if i find a idea in the futur 1136339489 M * bragon sorry to disturb you :/ 1136339509 M * Bertl np 1136339550 Q * _are_ arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * Smutje arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * Johnnie arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * matti arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * yang2 arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * pusling arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * kilian arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * harry arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * mountie arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * phreak`` arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * Skram arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339550 Q * click arion.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1136339607 J * kilian kk@projects.verfaction.de 1136339607 J * _are_ ~are@62.112.159.81 1136339607 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-84-195.netcologne.de 1136339607 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.whizwire.org 1136339607 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1136339607 J * yang2 yang@sparc64.be 1136339607 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124 1136339607 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be 1136339607 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1136339607 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@styx.xnull.de 1136339607 J * Skram ~skramy@vistech.org 1136339607 J * click click@ti511110a080-1372.bb.online.no 1136339613 M * bragon a split :/ 1136339796 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136339907 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19 1136340490 M * lchvdlch Bertl: ping 1136340499 M * Bertl lchvdlch: pong? 1136340520 M * lchvdlch Bertl: hi, I have one question about my "legacy" vserver configuration 1136340553 M * Bertl yup? 1136340559 M * lchvdlch Bertl: I've noticed that since I'm using vc_new_s_context syscall, the server gets frozen twice a day (till now) 1136340616 M * Bertl hmm, what did you use before? 1136340646 M * lchvdlch Bertl: I wasn't using that syscall (and server had uptimes > 2 weeks) 1136340666 M * lchvdlch now the server has uptime < 1 day 1136340673 M * lchvdlch Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address aadfbe00 1136340686 M * lchvdlch that's how the kernel oops begin 1136340697 M * Bertl interesting, give me some details, kernel version? 1136340709 M * lchvdlch 2.4.31, vs 1.2.10 1136340714 M * Bertl and, could you upload the entire oops trace? 1136340730 M * lchvdlch yup, wait a sec 1136340896 M * lchvdlch Bertl: http://pastebin.com/489602 <-- here it is (the only I could type, as there is no scroll up when kernel hangs) 1136341236 M * Bertl hmm, looks pretty much vserver unrelated to me, what's the acenic driver? 1136341316 M * lchvdlch old (again) network card, very popular on alpha-tru64 systems 1136341327 M * lchvdlch gigabit ethernet, fiber optics 1136341360 M * Bertl because it seems to cause the oops 1136341383 M * lchvdlch Bertl: I recall you writting something about 4k stack pages... 1136341412 M * Bertl could it be that you 'upgraded' the kernel, and that this is just a coincidence? 1136341449 M * lchvdlch no, that kernel is there since... nov 21th 1136341509 M * lchvdlch yesternight I "upgraded" my program, to use vc_new_s_context syscall (that's why I'm suspect it's vserver related) 1136341563 M * Bertl well, I'm not saying it is not, but it doesn't look like 1136341632 M * lchvdlch in my program, I switch from context 0 to another context, just to run a program and exit 1136341661 M * lchvdlch so, there is a time when parent process is on context 0 and child is on context >= 2 1136341701 M * lchvdlch until child dies, then control backs to context 0 (parent), which handles the data child leaves 1136341888 M * lchvdlch :( I'm watching reiserfs warnings on /var/log/messagess 1136342246 P * undefined 1136342328 Q * derjohn Remote host closed the connection 1136342806 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19 1136342883 M * lchvdlch Bertl: even if the acenic module is the source of the problems, what does "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address aadfbe00" talk about? 1136342919 M * Bertl basically it says that 'something' in the kernel tried to access aadfbe00 1136342940 M * lchvdlch and "can't"? 1136342940 M * Bertl which was not there ... 1136342953 M * lchvdlch uhmm... 1136342982 M * lchvdlch well, I've seen some reiserfs problems in teh past, i'm backing things up and will restore after reiserfsck 1136342987 M * Bertl as your kernel is located at c0..., this looks very suspicious 1136343028 M * Bertl so, either kernel memory was overwritten (could have been anything, preferable reiser :) 1136343065 M * Bertl or, the acenic driver did get something wrong ... 1136343112 M * lchvdlch Bertl: i have lots (maybe thousands) of lines like this -> Jan 3 14:48:26 prdapp01 kernel: sd(8,8):vs-13060: reiserfs_update_sd: stat data of object [1069 5440 0x0 SD] (nlink == 1) not fou 1136343116 M * lchvdlch nd (pos 8) 1136343126 M * lchvdlch before the kernel hangs 1136343141 M * lchvdlch Jan 3 14:48:26 prdapp01 kernel: sd(8,8):PAP-5660: reiserfs_do_truncate: wrong result -1 of search for [1069 5450 0xffffffffffffff 1136343144 M * lchvdlch f DIRECT] 1136343146 M * Bertl that would point into the reiser direction 1136343159 M * Bertl maybe try with ext2/3? 1136343210 M * lchvdlch ext3 could be... but I've been using reiser since 2.2.13, and never got any trouble like this... 1136343306 M * Bertl that could well be related to the change in your code 1136343337 M * micah hi all 1136343365 M * lchvdlch Bertl: I read something about the need to have ext2/3 headers to build vserver 1136343366 M * Bertl lchvdlch: i.e. what if the stack did suffice with the new-style call, but it fails with the larger legacy code? 1136343401 M * Bertl hey micah! 1136343421 M * lchvdlch Bertl: I prefer to thing that reiser issues, wasted memory (stack?), then acenic got to find nothing... 1136343423 M * Bertl micah: waldi and kilian showed up today ... 1136343433 M * micah Bertl: yeah, i just read the logs 1136343451 M * micah Bertl: I dont know who kilian is, but waldi should know me as hacim in #debian-kernel 1136343488 M * Bertl http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2004/02/msg00001.html 1136343498 M * micah Bertl: I'm a bit surprised as aba and I have started a discussion about doing this with the debian kernel on the mailing list and have not heard anything from waldi/kilian about doing this 1136343518 M * Bertl well, slight disorganization :) 1136343522 M * micah it is also a break from the debian kernel policy 1136343555 M * micah (which is to not accept non-vanilla patches in the base kernel) 1136343578 M * micah but anyways, I am trying to get waldi's attention in the kernel channel to talk to him about his plans 1136343592 M * Bertl make that! 1136343622 M * Bertl referred the folks to you anyway ... so I guess you will get in contact 1136343643 M * micah yeah, definately... I haven't seen anything on the list or on IRC about this thus far until now 1136343668 M * micah I'm glad to see others wanting to do this work too! 1136343861 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136343864 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-93-109-94.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1136344310 M * lchvdlch Bertl: thanks again for your time 1136344318 N * lchvdlch lchvdlog 1136344744 M * Bertl lchvdlog: you're welcome! 1136345431 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1136348654 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1136351296 Q * wasser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136353658 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a nice whatever, everyone! 1136353684 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1136357660 Q * tso|away Quit: BitchX: a modern client for a old world 1136357715 J * tso ~tso@rev.193.226.232.31.euroweb.hu 1136359686 Q * _are_ Quit: bbl 1136361137 Q * tso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136362756 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1136363997 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-19-159.netcologne.de 1136364106 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136364574 P * undefined 1136364737 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio347.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1136364866 M * Milf Hello everyone. 1136364889 M * Milf A colleague of mine is about to finish installing a Vserver-Patched Gentoo on an Enterprise Sparc 1136364905 M * Milf Anyone wanne wager the odds of an x86 Vserver working on that machine? 1136365293 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-14-87.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1136365676 Q * balbir Quit: Leaving 1136367588 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.14 1136367696 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136367696 N * menomc mnemoc 1136368779 M * SiD3WiNDR Milf: none? :) 1136368973 M * harry x86 vserver on a sparc... none indeed 1136369216 M * Milf So there are hardware dependencies in the libs too? 1136369239 M * Milf (and in any executable) Sorry I asked :) 1136369308 M * eyck why would you want to run x86 on sparc? why not native sparc vserver? 1136369476 M * harry why run x86 code on a sparc, why not just compile it on spar 1136369476 M * harry c 1136369548 M * eyck why compile it on sparc when you can cross-compile it on fast x86 ;) 1136369583 M * harry whatever... just see that you have sparc machinecode in your binaries :) 1136369816 M * Milf Thing is, we've got some x86 host servers and we were wondering if we could put one of our old e450 servers to good use as a backup or something. 1136369973 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1136370057 M * eyck you DO understand what 'x86' and 'sparc' means? 1136370078 M * eyck because either you don't understand it, or we don't understand what you're trying to accomplish 1136370178 M * eyck eh, and when I used to play with e450's they were considered top notch machines, 1136370183 M * eyck times change 1136370191 M * SiD3WiNDR old! :p 1136370237 M * Milf Yes I do remember what 'binary compatibility' means and that binaries are just that: machinecode. Been a long time, a guy gets to forget some basic things, don't he? :) 1136371213 J * infowolfe jthm@209-112-210-87-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1136372173 M * eyck SiD3WiNDR: green! 1136372181 M * eyck hmm, greenhorn? 1136372195 M * eyck greenhorn. yes. 1136372196 M * SiD3WiNDR greenhorny? 1136372310 Q * balbir Quit: Leaving 1136372453 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-198.lhi.is 1136373018 J * lilalinux ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net 1136374413 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1136374638 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1136375892 J * Doener doener@i5387D540.versanet.de 1136376226 M * Roey hey all 1136376229 M * Roey hey Doener 1136376241 M * Roey eyck, SiD3WiNDR 1136376302 M * eyck Roey 1136376613 M * Roey ya 1136376779 J * h3v3n ~sascha@isi-dial-137-10.isionline-dialin.de 1136376783 M * h3v3n hello 1136376818 M * h3v3n is anybody here who can help me? 1136376871 M * bubulak whit what ? 1136376872 M * h3v3n it's very important 1136376879 M * h3v3n ah 1136376898 M * h3v3n i've setted up a kernel with vserver 1136376908 M * h3v3n but it can't start 1136376924 M * h3v3n it says: vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'suse92'; returned value was ''´ 1136376949 M * h3v3n of course i've tried /sbin/vserver '/etc/vservers/suse92' stop, but it doesn't work 1136376964 M * h3v3n kernel: Linux version 2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1 1136377012 M * bubulak try disable vsheper 1136377016 M * bubulak vshelper 1136377017 M * h3v3n how? 1136377032 M * h3v3n i'm a noob in vservers ;) 1136377040 M * Doener h3v3n: did you set a xid for the vserver? 1136377068 M * h3v3n i think so, but where must it be? 1136377089 M * Doener if you did, there's a file named "context" in /etc/vservers/suse92/ 1136377122 M * Doener if there is no such file, create it with some number between 2 and ~49000(?) in it... 1136377123 M * h3v3n yes, there is a file like this, value 50 1136377179 M * h3v3n and in /var/run/servers/suse92 stands 50, too 1136377185 M * Doener which version of the tools? 1136377205 M * Doener was testme.sh succesful? 1136377215 M * h3v3n yes, it was successfull 1136377240 M * h3v3n version of the tools? euh, vserver --help ? 1136377253 M * h3v3n do you mean this tools? 1136377267 M * bubulak vserver --version 1136377285 M * h3v3n 0.30.209 1136377337 M * h3v3n is there any bug in it? 1136377341 M * bubulak try vserver --debug $guest start 1136377399 M * h3v3n a very long log ... how shall i give you? 1136377410 M * Doener pastebin.com 1136377452 M * h3v3n mom 1136377550 J * shedi ~siggi@v10-223-109.lhi.is 1136377585 M * h3v3n here is it: http://pastebin.com/490045 1136377649 M * h3v3n very long, i hope you can see anything ;) 1136377665 M * bubulak try rename context file to context.backup 1136377668 M * bubulak and run it 1136377674 Q * shedi Remote host closed the connection 1136377722 M * h3v3n ./context.backup: line 1: 50: command not found 1136377732 M * bubulak no .. the vserver 1136377741 M * bubulak vserver $guest start 1136377743 M * h3v3n which file? 1136377769 M * h3v3n how shall i name which file? 1136377827 M * Doener h3v3n: is there anything in runlevel 3 in that vserver that is started? 1136377843 M * Doener maybe the context already disappeared again... 1136377874 M * h3v3n hm 1136377905 M * h3v3n how can i check? 1136377942 M * h3v3n right ? /vservers/suse92/etc/init.d/rc3.d? 1136377952 M * Doener yes 1136377983 M * h3v3n lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2006-01-04 09:39 K20random -> ../random 1136377983 M * h3v3n lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2006-01-04 09:39 S01random -> ../random 1136377995 M * Doener that's all? 1136377998 M * h3v3n yes 1136378006 M * Doener ok, then it's all clear now ;) 1136378013 M * h3v3n hm? :D 1136378022 M * Doener the vserver starts, executes that single script and shuts down immediately 1136378027 M * h3v3n oh LOL 1136378042 M * Doener so when the vshelper.init stuff appears, the vserver is already gone again, thus no context id to be determined 1136378054 M * Doener adding sshd there would be a good idea 1136378066 M * h3v3n yes, i think so ... *g* 1136378080 M * h3v3n which name must it have? (the link?) 1136378110 M * Doener chkconfig --add sshd 1136378139 M * Doener (chroot into the vserver directory first, of course ;) 1136378185 M * h3v3n error *argh* 1136378197 M * Doener no sshd installed? ;) 1136378246 M * h3v3n ... have you got a crystal ball what gives you the answers? ;) 1136378270 M * Doener i wish i had one :) 1136378307 M * h3v3n service network has to be enable - rcnetwork start? 1136378327 M * Doener uhm, i wouldn't do that in a plain chroot... 1136378332 M * Doener and it'll fail in a vserver... 1136378334 M * h3v3n oh, yes 1136378340 M * Doener stupid dependency checks ;) 1136378342 M * h3v3n what should i do then? 1136378349 M * Doener sshd is installed now? 1136378356 M * h3v3n insserv: Service network has to be enabled for service sshd 1136378356 M * h3v3n insserv: Service boot.localfs has to be enabled for service sshd 1136378356 M * h3v3n insserv: exiting now! 1136378356 M * h3v3n sshd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off 1136378375 M * Doener try with -f 1136378378 M * Doener (force) 1136378383 M * Doener should ignore dependencies 1136378410 M * Doener hm, shift and enter are too close to each other... 1136378431 M * h3v3n hmm 1136378451 M * h3v3n 3 and 5 are on now - but the same error how starts 1136378471 M * h3v3n with the xid 1136378514 M * h3v3n vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'suse92'; returned value was '' 1136378543 M * Doener then sshd probably failed... 1136378556 M * Doener did you adjust your host's sshd configuration? 1136378573 M * Doener by default it binds to 0.0.0.0, thus blocking all vservers' sshd 1136378583 M * h3v3n i forget about everything today, thank you, mom 1136378601 M * Doener you have to either limit the binding addressses of your host's sshd or change the vserver's sshd port 1136378657 M * h3v3n shall i configure my host sshd or my virtual server sshd? 1136378758 M * Doener you can do either... change the ListenAddress for the host's sshd _or_ change the Port for the vserver's sshd (of course you may also do both, but that's not necessary) 1136378775 M * Doener oh, and vservers binding to 0.0.0.0 are fine, they won't cause conflicts 1136378842 M * h3v3n so i had to add every vserver-ip into the host's sshd into a listenaddress? 1136378850 M * h3v3n (oh my english *g*) 1136378936 M * Doener uhm, no, the other way round... 1136378948 M * Doener the host sshd may only listen on address _not_ used by the vservers 1136378960 M * Doener for example, you might have 10.0.0.1,2,3 1136378970 M * h3v3n yes? 1136378983 M * Doener .2 and .3 are vserver addresses, then the host sshd should have ListenAddress 10.0.0.1 1136379005 M * h3v3n and vserver .2 has no change? 1136379010 M * h3v3n (and .3) 1136379018 M * Doener right 1136379074 M * h3v3n mom, i try ... 1136379117 M * Doener (you have to restart the host's sshd afterwards. current connections survive this step, so keep your connection alive till you confirmed that the new setup is working as expected) 1136379148 M * h3v3n i've got a rescue server, no panic ;) 1136379237 M * h3v3n hm 1136379282 M * h3v3n it works, but the vserver still doesnt start, what listenaddresses entries has to be in the vserver's sshd_config? nothing, right? 1136379334 M * Doener yep 1136379343 M * Doener netstat -tnlp | grep 22 1136379372 M * h3v3n ipx10047:/etc/ssh # netstat -tnlp | grep 22 1136379372 M * h3v3n tcp 0 0 80.190.240.34:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 24749/sshd 1136379412 M * Doener looks good... 1136379419 M * Doener anything in the vserver's logs? 1136379429 M * h3v3n where are them? 1136379455 M * Doener in the vserver's /var/log i guess 1136379512 M * h3v3n nothing 1136379521 M * h3v3n and the error is the same 1136379576 M * h3v3n like start ... 1136379600 M * Doener this is getting weird... 1136379628 M * h3v3n and what shall i do now? no idea? 1136379667 M * Doener oh wait... you didn't assign an ip address to that vserver... 1136379684 A * Doener should take closer looks at debug output... 1136379698 M * h3v3n how shall i?` 1136379734 M * Doener let's start with some private address... 1136379755 M * Doener cd /etc/vservers/suse92 1136379766 M * Doener is there an "interfaces" directory? if not, create it 1136379797 M * Doener in interfaces/ is there a directory "0"? if not, create it 1136379802 M * h3v3n mom 1136379810 M * h3v3n yes? 1136379829 M * Doener then, in directory 0/, there should be three files: dev, ip, prefix 1136379837 M * h3v3n there are no files ;) 1136379845 M * Doener well, you can create them now ;) 1136379869 M * h3v3n what must be in? ;) 1136379872 M * Doener dev you contain the name of the interface you want the private address to be created in 1136379879 M * Doener lo, eth0 or whatever... 1136379893 M * h3v3n eth0, done 1136379912 M * Doener ip should contain the ip address... let's take 10.0.0.1 1136379921 M * Doener (unless that is already used on your box) 1136379942 M * Doener and prefix contains the "length" of the netmask, 8 in this case 1136379979 M * h3v3n how would it be with 80.190.250.28? 1136379998 M * h3v3n 10? 1136380010 M * Doener 24 i guess... 1136380051 M * h3v3n is that important? 1136380060 M * Doener kinda.. ;) 1136380078 M * Doener btw, is 80.190.250.28 already existant on that box? 1136380099 M * Doener if so, remove the dev file and create an empty "nodev" file instead! 1136380125 M * h3v3n it is a real ip, but it isn't entried in /etc/sysconfig/network 1136380161 M * Doener ok, then keep dev 1136380190 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk 1136380193 M * wibble hello! 1136380198 M * Doener so you should have: dev (eth0), ip (80.190.250.28) and prefix (24) 1136380211 M * Doener then, try to start the vserver once again 1136380214 M * Doener hi wibble 1136380225 M * wibble how you doing? sorry I haven't been around much! 1136380240 M * h3v3n error ... 1136380268 M * Doener h3v3n: please another one with --debug and pastebin.com ... 1136380283 M * wibble I've actually got a small annoying issue. I can't use fopen in php inside a vserver with network sockets 1136380298 M * wibble i fudged it in the old 1.2x but can't seem to do it in 2.x 1136380387 M * Doener wibble: "can't use" means? 1136380397 M * wibble get raw socket operation not permitted 1136380418 M * wibble its the usual security restrictions 1136380468 M * h3v3n @Doener: http://pastebin.com/490080 1136380559 M * Doener h3v3n: you see that long line no. 731? 1136380611 M * Doener do: 1136380616 M * Doener /sbin/ip addr add 80.190.250.28/24 broadcast + dev eth0 1136380647 M * Doener then that long line, but replace the last part "/etc/rc.d/rc 3" with "sshd" 1136380647 A * waldi just finds only problems: vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'test'; returned value was '' 1136380683 M * wibble ah-a 1136380696 M * wibble a bit of a fudge i know but it works setting bcapabilities 1136380721 M * Doener wibble: yeah, but that also allows sniffing... 1136380725 M * wibble indeed 1136380735 M * Doener i really wonder why they use raw sockets in fopen... 1136380766 M * wibble me too, its a fudge but I need it :( 1136380776 M * wibble the servers don't allow anyone to login and they are fairly secure 1136380782 M * wibble only two vservers anyhoo 1136380802 M * h3v3n now that: ipx10047:/etc/vservers/SaschaSrv/interfaces/0 # vserver suse92 start RTNETLINK answers: File exists 1136380802 M * h3v3n vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'suse92'; returned value was '' 1136380827 M * h3v3n (i've created interfaces at both ones !!!) 1136380851 M * Doener h3v3n: that was expected... i've actually been interested in any output produces by the long line that was supposed to start sshd 1136380887 M * h3v3n save_ctxinfo: open("/var/run/vservers/suse92"): File exists 1136380991 M * Doener nothing else? 1136381002 M * h3v3n no 1136381026 M * Doener ok, same line again, but with "bash" instead of "sshd" at the end 1136381041 M * h3v3n save_ctxinfo: open("/var/run/vservers/suse92"): File exists 1136381061 M * waldi vnamespace: vc_set_namespace(): No such process 1136381067 M * Doener h3v3n: ps -A 1136381077 M * Doener does that output more than just the bash process? 1136381089 M * waldi vcontext: vc_xidopt2xid("test"): Invalid argument 1136381137 M * h3v3n 2 bash and sshd, mysql, httpd etc. 1136381158 M * Doener ok, so you didn't get into the vserver context... 1136381159 M * h3v3n but i'm logged in as root by a second user 1136381170 M * h3v3n but what can i do? 1136381186 M * Doener then try removing /var/run/vservers/suse92 and then the long line with bash again... 1136381213 M * h3v3n vcontext: execvp("bash"): No such file or directory 1136381249 M * Doener ok, remove the file again (i guess it was recreated...) and use /bin/bash 1136381270 M * Doener (or /bin/sh to be sure...) 1136381287 M * h3v3n vcontext: execvp("/bin/sh"): No such file or directory 1136381306 M * h3v3n (/bin/sh exists, of course) 1136381309 M * Doener wtf? your vserver doesn't have /bin/sh? 1136381340 M * h3v3n it have 1136381356 M * Doener oh... nevermind... that long line changed semantics since i last used it... 1136381369 M * Doener you have to cd /vservers/suse92 first... sorry 1136381383 M * h3v3n *gg* no problem 1136381484 M * h3v3n no output, but my root-directory is /vservers/suse92 now 1136381526 M * h3v3n we 1136381539 M * h3v3n when i exit and type vserver suse92 start - the same error 1136381636 M * h3v3n now? 1136381647 Q * lonewolff Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136381657 M * Doener ok, now with sshd again... (i.e remove file, be in /vservers/suse92 and that long line with sshd) 1136381754 M * h3v3n PRNG is not seeded 1136381832 M * h3v3n what means this? 1136381990 M * Doener not enough entropy i guess... 1136381999 M * h3v3n sorry, entropy? 1136382112 M * eyck buy more entropy 1136382135 M * h3v3n what means entropy? i'm not good in english 1136382147 M * Doener h3v3n: your sshd needs to create a new key, a needs random numbers for that... 1136382164 M * kilian confusion within your server hardware =) 1136382182 M * kilian h3v3n: thus someone you should be able to get quite easily by using it ;) 1136382223 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host86-128-66-87.range86-128.btcentralplus.com 1136382228 M * Doener to get good random number you need entropy... for example for keyboard input. a human typing on a keyboard is quite random 1136382264 M * kilian *g* 1136382296 M * h3v3n and how shall i fix it, now? 1136382354 M * kilian run updatedb& 1136382367 M * kilian or locate -u if you find that more charming ;) 1136382390 M * h3v3n first chroot ?+ 1136382406 M * kilian as thou wish.. 1136382472 J * zobel zobel@zobel.irc.ftbfs.de 1136382512 M * h3v3n locate and run wasnt found 1136382522 M * zobel is IPv6 working with NGNET? 1136382626 M * h3v3n oh, sorry 1136382631 M * h3v3n they wasnt installed 1136382699 M * FaUl zobel: ngnet isn't working now, so ipv6 isn't as well :-) 1136382718 M * h3v3n no option -u for locate ... 1136382730 M * zobel mh :( 1136382751 M * FaUl zobel: yes, i'd like v6-support to vservers as well 1136382764 M * zobel ipv6 inside a vserver host would be realy realy nice 1136382800 M * h3v3n can everyone help me? 1136382834 M * zobel h3v3n: man locate? 1136382971 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-81-173-227-70.netcologne.de 1136383057 M * h3v3n yes, i've not read *g* 1136383084 M * h3v3n how long needs updatedb? 1136383138 M * zobel long 1136383161 M * h3v3n and then it works? i can't believe ... *g* 1136383408 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136383469 M * h3v3n aaah, next error messages 1136383476 M * h3v3n how can i create "hostkeys"? 1136383506 M * zobel ssh-keygen? 1136383513 M * h3v3n thanx ... 1136383870 M * h3v3n PRNG is not seeded ... again 1136384101 Q * VooDooMaster Quit: Relax, its only ONES and ZEROS! 1136384942 M * BWare h3v3n: what does ls -la /vservers/NAME/dev show ? 1136384985 M * h3v3n ipx10047:/vservers/suse92/prngd-0.9.29 # ls -la /vservers/suse92/dev 1136384985 M * h3v3n insgesamt 16 1136384985 M * h3v3n drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-01-04 14:37 . 1136384985 M * h3v3n drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2006-01-04 16:26 .. 1136384985 M * h3v3n -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29 2006-01-04 15:32 null 1136384987 M * h3v3n drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-01-04 09:39 pts 1136384987 M * h3v3n srw------- 1 root root 0 2006-01-04 13:32 reboot 1136385233 Q * yang Quit: leaving 1136385617 M * h3v3n @Doener: Can you help me? there are no more sshd-errors, but i have the same error like start 1136385634 M * Doener i'm out of ideas, sorry... 1136385646 M * Doener and stop priv msging me :p 1136385652 M * h3v3n *g* 1136385661 M * h3v3n and what should i do now? :-(((( 1136385672 M * Doener i'd wait for Bertl_zZ 1136385683 M * Doener but maybe someone else also has some good idea 1136385698 M * h3v3n bertl_zz is here ... 1136385764 M * Doener zZ means that he's sleeping 1136385773 M * h3v3n oh, sorry 1136385777 M * Doener np 1136385777 M * h3v3n i dont know 1136385896 M * h3v3n is there any other open source virtual server system? i need it ... 1136385950 M * BWare qemu 1136385960 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1136385972 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1136386011 M * bubulak xen 1136386027 M * BWare openvz 1136386032 M * BWare :) 1136386043 M * mnemoc 3 different approaches 1136386043 M * bubulak microsoft virtual server :) 1136386057 M * h3v3n mmh 1136386058 M * BWare Yikes 1136386068 M * bubulak w8 i have link 1136386068 M * mnemoc jikes is a java compiler :) 1136386075 M * BWare hehehe 1136386093 M * bubulak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines 1136386094 M * bubulak :) 1136386114 M * BWare h3v3n: you need some more dev nodes for the ssh keygen 1136386136 M * BWare I suggest you have a look at the linux-vserver homepage (see topic) 1136386192 M * h3v3n yes, i know, but i havent seen - so i had copied all drivers, now i dont get a error with ssh - but linux-vserver doesnt work, vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'suse92'; returned value was '' 1136386263 M * BWare cat /etc/vservers/suse92/context gives ? 1136386293 M * h3v3n 50 1136386466 M * Roey HI 1136386470 M * Roey anyone here using apt-proxy? 1136386606 P * h3v3n 1136387810 Q * nox Quit: Changing server 1136388058 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1136388591 Q * nox Quit: Lost terminal 1136388649 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136388696 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1136388895 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1136388907 M * Bertl morning folks! 1136388980 J * shedi ~siggi@v10-223-109.lhi.is 1136389097 M * Bertl welcome shedi! 1136389125 M * shedi thank you Bertl 1136389158 M * Roey hey Bertl! 1136389247 M * Bertl hey Roey! still apt-proxy issues? 1136389295 M * cemil bertl? 1136389298 M * cemil its 16:41 1136389302 M * cemil why dont you sleep? 1136389386 M * Bertl cemil: woke up early, was a little hungry :) 1136389520 M * Roey Bertl: hrr, yes. 1136389526 M * Roey Bertl: actually I have space issues with lvm now. 1136389530 M * Roey I have /var that is too small 1136389533 M * Roey (ran out of space on it) 1136389538 M * Roey I want to add, say 8 gigs to it 1136389540 M * Roey So I did: 1136389541 M * mnemoc enlarge it :) 1136389543 M * Roey katzr@sink2:~$ sudo lvresize -L +8GB /dev/main/main-var 1136389543 M * Roey /var/lock/lvm/V_main: open failed: No space left on device 1136389543 M * Roey Can't get lock for mai 1136389547 M * Roey that's what I got. 1136389553 M * Roey and I don't have /var umounted either. 1136389559 M * mnemoc reduce another to get the space 1136389563 M * Roey because fuser says it's busy. 1136389578 M * Roey mnemoc: what do you mean 1136389594 M * Roey mnemoc: katzr@sink2:~$ sudo lvdisplay -v 1136389594 M * Roey Finding all logical volumes 1136389594 M * Roey /var/lock/lvm/V_main: open failed: No space left on device 1136389594 M * Roey Can't lock main: skipping 1136389600 M * Roey like.. what the hell :) 1136389620 M * mnemoc it seems you will have to solve it 'off-line' 1136389664 M * Roey OK, I deleted stuff. 1136389668 M * Roey and then I did lvresize 1136389674 M * Roey and lvresize worked. 1136389691 M * Roey Now, I wonder if xfs_resize needs /var to be umounted before it can work. 1136389697 M * mnemoc :) 1136389707 M * mnemoc afaik xfs support _mounted_ resized 1136389710 M * mnemoc resizes 1136389753 M * Roey oh coolness 1136389763 M * Roey I read about xfs utils needing the volume to be mounted in order to work 1136389770 M * Roey didn't know it includes xfs_resize 1136389817 M * mnemoc sadly xfs doesn't handle small files good, so reiserfs is the only for me 1136389867 M * michal_ lol 1136389867 M * Bertl mnemoc: ext2/3 handles small files equally well ... you just have to configure it properly 1136389880 M * michal_ every volume has to be mounted to work :) 1136390014 N * lchvdlog lchvdlch 1136390059 M * mnemoc Bertl: url? :) 1136390097 M * michal_ http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra3/index.xml 1136390107 M * michal_ the most illogical laptops ever seen 1136390130 M * michal_ well, it is cool hardware, but a bit too expensive for 99.9% of this planet ;] 1136390138 M * michal_ and definitey not worth it 1136390271 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136390293 M * Roey Bertl, mnemoc: wow, that was easy. Just lvresize +8GB /dev/main/var and then xfs_growfs /var 1136390334 M * michal_ welcome to the world of advanced filesystems :) 1136390340 A * michal_ loves xfs 1136390347 M * michal_ (again) 1136390367 M * Bertl morning lchvdlch! 1136390367 M * michal_ especialy after two (the same day, few hours, completly different computers) data loos 1136390379 M * michal_ on ext3 1136390465 M * mnemoc michal_: advanced filesystem which doesn't survive a big maildir repository :( 1136390483 M * michal_ depends how configured 1136390485 M * michal_ i am keeping gentoo portage tree on xfs 1136390495 M * michal_ 150000 small files 1136390502 M * michal_ few thousands of dirs 1136390514 M * FaUl mine is on reiserfs 1136390540 M * michal_ i would not trust MR reiser and put any valuable dataon reiserfs 1136390551 M * michal_ but that's just me (not really, lots of people in fact) 1136390574 M * Bertl let the fs shootout commence :) 1136390578 M * michal_ ext3 should be better unless it crashes 1136390617 M * lchvdlch Bertl: morning... 1136390644 M * Bertl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems 1136390697 M * michal_ k, lets change topic ;] 1136390719 M * michal_ any of you could tell me about some firefox plugin that would allow sesion saving ? 1136390722 M * michal_ like opera does 1136390768 M * Bertl hmm, IIRC it allows (out of the box) to save _all_ tabs to a file/session 1136390777 M * michal_ to bookmarks 1136390783 M * Bertl (it's just a little complicated, yes) 1136390785 M * michal_ but taht's not exactly what i want 1136390799 M * Bertl you can, otoh, open a bookmarks file into tabs 1136390816 M * michal_ yes 1136390835 M * michal_ i am rebooting too much that's why i am askng ;] 1136390838 M * Bertl but I would miss the galeon crash recovery and pickup :) 1136390928 M * michal_ i like that ZFS 1136391114 M * Bertl I'm surprised to hear that xfs doesn't do block journalig? 1136391124 M * Bertl *ling 1136391130 M * michal_ no, it does not 1136391136 M * michal_ reiserfs does not also 1136391143 M * michal_ and ext3 in default mode :) 1136391151 M * michal_ in fact isn't it that only ext3 offers that ? 1136391171 M * Bertl the list says ext3,reiser,udf and others 1136391212 M * michal_ interesting. well i've been using ext3 in metadata only journal, writeback 1136391233 M * michal_ but it has lost my data during normal using, so that's not it ;p 1136391283 M * michal_ tar, mkfs, untar, verify, delete tar file (mistake !), clean umount, reboot, uh - where are my data ? 1136391287 M * michal_ mom ! ;p 1136392059 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-93-109-94.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1136392340 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner, back shortly ... 1136392345 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1136393612 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1136393617 M * Bertl back now ... 1136393619 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-87-78-46-144.netcologne.de 1136393788 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136393806 M * dreamist bertl: I'm not sure I'm happy about it, but you'll be happy to know that the stock kernel crashed last night ;-) 1136393868 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136393908 J * Doener doener@i5387D65F.versanet.de 1136393998 M * Bertl dreamist: ah, well, not unexpected ... 1136394032 M * dreamist bertl: indeed.. going to try the MSI thing that tso suggested yesterday 1136394033 M * Bertl dreamist: but let's try to narrow it down anyways ... (please give me a short overview of your system) 1136394038 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1136394064 M * Bertl dreamist: i.e. what hardware is used, what kernel options required 1136394122 M * dreamist bertl: sure.. it's a dual processor Xeon, 2GB of ECC memory. It's got 16 SATA drives, connected to an Areca 1160 raid controller 1136394166 M * Bertl okay, what about networking? 1136394168 M * dreamist bertl: it has a total of 4 gigabit ethernet connections -- 2 onboard, and 2 on a PCI card 1136394184 M * Bertl ah, dual GBit on PCI? 1136394190 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-249-109.netcologne.de 1136394194 M * dreamist yeah -- not sure if its PCI or PCIX.. would have to check 1136394205 M * Bertl I hope it's PCI-X or e 1136394215 M * dreamist yeah, otherwise it would be a waste ;-) 1136394243 M * Bertl are there good drivers for the Areca 1160? 1136394254 M * dreamist currently I'm using one of the interfaces on the card.. I had also thought about pulling the card and using the onboard 1136394257 M * Bertl (or do you use vendor drivers?) 1136394288 M * dreamist well, I don't have a lot of data on how good they are (this is my first go round with this card) but the vendor distributes source 1136394292 M * SiD3WiNDR vendor drivers 1136394293 A * Bertl .o( hmm, I should stop assuming that vendor drivers are bad :) 1136394297 M * SiD3WiNDR err 1136394300 M * SiD3WiNDR areca is the vendor there ;) 1136394308 M * SiD3WiNDR but they haven't discovered diffs yet 1136394321 M * SiD3WiNDR they have a textfile :p "paste this on file x: " ... :p 1136394326 M * dreamist yeah.. they make you add stuff to the Kconfig and Makefile by hand 1136394331 M * SiD3WiNDR controller works great though 1136394343 M * dreamist so far I've been happy with the controller, but again, no clue how stable the driver is 1136394348 M * Bertl hmm, doesn't mean it works correctly on SMP ... 1136394362 M * dreamist Bertl: should I try compiling a UP kernel? 1136394369 M * Bertl dreamist: could you upload the bootup log (i.e. dmesg output) somewhere? 1136394386 M * dreamist sure gimme a min 1136394396 M * Bertl dreamist: and add the output of 'cat /proc/{interrupts,devices,cpuinfo,meminfo}' 1136394521 J * tudenbar1 ~willi@xdsl-81-173-224-109.netcologne.de 1136394568 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136394640 M * dreamist http://www.weyco.com/bertl/bertl.debug 1136394726 M * Bertl hmm, check if you can find a little more in /var/log/dmesg (seems like the first few lines are missing) 1136394755 M * bubulak nice machine :) 1136394808 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136394826 M * Bertl dreamist: the tg3 cards are the onboard, right? 1136394839 M * dreamist give that a shot -- I added it to the end 1136394842 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-253-104.netcologne.de 1136394873 M * dreamist bobulak: it was actually pretty damned inexpensive, though I hope thats not why its not working ;-) 1136394921 M * dreamist bertl one sec lemme verify that 1136394943 M * dreamist bertl: thats correct... the e1000 is the PCI card 1136394967 M * Bertl could you move your testing to the intel cards and avoid the tg3 ones? 1136394996 M * dreamist bertl: thats actually the only interface hooked up right now -- eth0, which is the first interface on the intel card (its a dual card) 1136395012 M * Bertl okay, so tg3 is not used at all, right? 1136395020 M * dreamist not presently.. I could rmmod it and nothing would notice 1136395044 M * Bertl okay, good, lets do that the next round, just to make sure 1136395067 M * dreamist -nods- seems wise 1136395123 M * Bertl interesting is that cpu3 gets all the irqs ... 1136395166 M * Bertl I would also consider removing the USB drivers for now 1136395214 M * dreamist bertl: are you seeing that cpu3 gets the irqs from /proc/interrupts? 1136395242 M * Bertl http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/22/105 1136395258 Q * tudenbar1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136395308 M * dreamist interesting.. makes me afraid to look at the code ;-0 1136395331 M * Bertl the important question is, is that the driver you are using? 1136395344 M * Bertl (or is this a completely different one) 1136395354 M * dreamist arcmsr is definitely the name of the driver... 1136395386 M * dreamist I could grab the -mm kernel and diff that version of the driver with mine and see if they are the same revision, etc 1136395406 M * Bertl http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0503.2/0862.html 1136395416 M * Bertl you are using 4k stacks now? 1136395449 M * dreamist yeah, after you had me change that option yesterday 1136395484 M * Bertl but away from 4K I hope? 1136395528 M * dreamist # CONFIG_4KSTACKS is not set 1136395615 M * Bertl okay, good 1136395963 M * dreamist I have to step out for an hour or so for a meeting.. thnx for the help so far 1136395989 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1136396025 M * Bertl welcome stefani! 1136396028 N * dreamist dreamist_mtg 1136396148 M * stefani hola 1136396224 J * jeeves ~Bob@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1136396355 M * Bertl welcome jeeves! 1136396363 M * jeeves hey there B 1136397686 M * waldi me got the kernel working 1136397698 M * Bertl congrats! 1136398131 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net 1136398139 M * Bertl welcome dhansen! 1136398567 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1136398774 J * marl_ ~matt@84.92.193.226 1136398787 M * Bertl wb marl_! 1136398951 Q * marl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136400550 J * _are_ ~are@62.112.159.81 1136400577 M * Bertl welcome _are_! 1136400616 M * _are_ Hi 1136401006 N * dreamist_mtg dreamist 1136401211 M * dreamist bertl: what did you think about the idea of compiling a UP kernel? 1136401353 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1136401498 M * Bertl dreamist: well, would be worth a try, but would not help you in the long run, I guess 1136401633 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136401695 M * dreamist bertl: true.. 1136401818 M * Bertl how 'easy' is it to crash the machine? 1136401857 M * dreamist bertl: well, it was easier under vserver for whatever reason(s).. I was getting it to crash within 20min or so.. the stock kernel took a couple hours 1136401890 M * FaUl .oO( under which conditions can you crash the mashine ) 1136401949 M * dreamist after I put some load on the machine.. it doesn't have to be very much, but more helps. (the first time it crashed I was only compiling one thing) My test right now is to run bonnie++ in a continuous loop along with 2 make -j 10 kernel compiles also in a loop 1136402003 M * _are_ replace your flaky ram. if your ram is not flaky, replace your flaky motherboard and power supply 1136402019 M * FaUl dreamist: sounds like broken hardware :-) 1136402101 M * dreamist yeah.. I know ;-) trying to make sure I try everything I can though before I deal with the pain of convincing the vendor that their system is broken 1136402162 M * Bertl dreamist: well, you can test with the vserver kernel, assuming that it JustWorksFine(tm) 1136403480 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1136404373 J * hwarrier ~harikb@64.161.133.227 1136404403 M * Bertl welcome hwarrier! 1136404413 M * hwarrier hi bertl 1136404951 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1136405443 J * Kelrya ~Kashira@p54BF8382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1136405453 N * Kelrya Kara_ 1136405470 N * Kara_ _Kara 1136406003 Q * cemil Quit: leaving 1136406223 M * lchvdlch Bertl: do you know if reiserfs for 2.4 kernels can generate race conditions? 1136406463 M * Bertl lchvdlch: reiserfs has always been a stack stress test and source of dubious race issues 1136406476 M * lchvdlch :( 1136406486 M * lchvdlch well, I'll switch to ext3 tonight :( 1136406487 M * Bertl nevertheless, I have no idea if the 2.4 reiserfs is race free or not 1136406562 M * lchvdlch well, I can't stand another crash, so my bet goes for ext3 1136406591 J * tso ~tso@rev.193.226.232.31.euroweb.hu 1136406610 M * tso hi all 1136406623 M * Bertl welcome tso! 1136406630 M * tso hi Bertl 1136406679 M * FaUl Bertl: i got neither gdb nor binutils compiled on ultrasparc 1136406689 M * FaUl Bertl: is there any chance to find the bug without them? 1136406700 M * Bertl FaUl: what do the sparc folks say about that? 1136406709 M * FaUl or must i send bug-reports 1136406713 M * FaUl Bertl: i've no idea 1136406720 M * FaUl i don't know any sparc-folks :-) 1136406744 M * Bertl hmm, well, it's not easy to pinpoint addresses without gdb or binutils :) 1136406824 M * Bertl well, I could cross compile a kernel for you, as my cross binutils seem to work (but I probably need to add those patches first) 1136406868 M * FaUl Bertl: i can give you the kernel as binary and as source without a problem 1136406890 M * FaUl if there is no other solution i would even give you a shell on the host 1136406951 M * Bertl it's debian, right? 1136406977 M * eyck of course 1136406989 M * FaUl Bertl: yes it is 1136407005 M * FaUl sid on the host 1136407008 M * FaUl to be exactly 1136407065 M * Bertl well, I guess I pass on the account thingy, too much troubles ... 1136407081 M * Bertl FaUl: plz. upload your kernel's config somewhere 1136407092 M * FaUl Bertl: mompl 1136407154 M * FaUl Bertl: http://faul.dyndns.org/weltzentrale.config 1136407192 M * Bertl that's a sparc64 config, right? 1136407209 M * FaUl yes 1136407219 M * Bertl and we are investigating a 2.1.0 kernel, yes? 1136407222 M * FaUl yes 1136407261 M * Bertl okay, and you can reproduce the bug somehow? 1136407263 M * FaUl 2.6.14.4 vanilla with vs1.2.0 1136407269 M * FaUl Bertl: by starting qmail 1136407282 M * Bertl okay, I hope the 1.2.0 is a typo :) 1136407313 M * FaUl yes 1136407316 M * FaUl 2.1.0 even\ 1136407318 M * FaUl ;-) 1136407332 M * mnemoc probably softlimit is making yout qmail fail 1136407334 M * Bertl otherwise I'd hand over to eyck :) 1136407352 M * FaUl i think 1.2.0 won't work on 2.6.14.4 without major patches :-) 1136407385 M * FaUl mnemoc: proberly not, that woud'nt cause oopses :-) 1136407396 M * mnemoc oops :) 1136407402 M * FaUl hehe :-) 1136407415 M * eyck hand over what? 1136407419 M * eyck why? 1136407431 M * FaUl Bertl: starting qmail in a quest with qmail-start 1136407443 M * eyck oh, yeah, 1.2.11 rocks 1136407444 M * FaUl if you wan't i may strace it as well 1136407948 Q * _Kara Quit: If Idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport 1136408074 M * FaUl Bertl: would you like the binary-verison of the kernel as well? the vmlinux-file/ 1136408180 M * Bertl no, as my and your version will differ for sure 1136408234 M * FaUl Bertl: are you chrosskompiling an ultrasparc-kernel for my mashine now? 1136408264 M * Bertl well, not yet, but in the near future ... 1136408283 M * FaUl ah, ok 1136408557 Q * tso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136408723 P * meandtheshell 1136408816 Q * hwarrier Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136409584 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-17-225.netcologne.de 1136409691 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136410757 M * Bertl FaUl: okay, I'll start to compile your kernel in a few minutes, you can start to compile your own too (http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.15-vs2.1.0.2.diff) 1136411214 M * Bertl FaUl: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/FaUl_sparc64_2.6.15.config 1136411598 M * FaUl Bertl: i'll not try out this kernel now, because the terminalserver i have is not runinng now 1136411622 M * FaUl so if it won't work i have to go to the server which means half an hour walk :-) 1136411695 M * Bertl FaUl: well, no kernel yet :) 1136411731 M * Bertl FaUl: btw, what file do you install for boot? 1136411817 A * michal_ always has a backup in case of remote administration 1136411887 M * michal_ servers connected back to back (in a "i have you <-> you have me" way). 1136411946 J * tso ~tso@rev.193.226.232.31.euroweb.hu 1136412169 M * eyck michal_: not making any mistakes works just as good... ;) 1136412226 M * michal_ would be ideal 1136412273 M * michal_ but this way i was able to administrate (kernel testining without beeing sure it will even boot) mips on MIT so faaar away ;p 1136412378 M * eyck powaznie? 1136412986 M * FaUl Bertl: vmlinux or what do you mean 1136413111 M * Bertl FaUl: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/FAUL/ 1136413191 M * FaUl Bertl: i'll test this maybe tomorrow 1136413201 M * Bertl k, have fun! 1136413219 M * FaUl i think it would help if i give you an account of that ultra1 1136413236 M * Bertl FaUl: in what way? 1136413245 M * FaUl you can get a root-account and an account on the terminal-server as well 1136413252 M * FaUl Bertl: ssh and serial-console 1136413265 M * FaUl then you can test yourself, that would save lot of time i guess 1136413274 M * FaUl i'll try to install it tomorrow 1136413342 M * Bertl well, yes, remote console and scuh would help 1136413363 M * FaUl Bertl: let me a bit of time 1136413378 M * FaUl i've to build some cables that will fit into the cyclades as well :-) 1136414030 J * bwana ~bwana@68-117-34-122.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com 1136414106 M * bwana wasn't their a nice vserver hosting service 1136414244 M * Bertl welcome bwana! 1136414284 M * bwana hola Bertl 1136414294 M * Bertl bwana: a bunch of companies provide vservers .. see http://linux-vserver.org/VServer+Hosting 1136414311 M * bwana excellent, thanks baggins 1136414313 M * bwana grr 1136414314 M * bwana Bertl 1136414642 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1136414694 J * hwarrier ~harikb@64.161.133.227 1136414752 P * undefined 1136415163 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-93-109-94.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1136415179 M * Bertl wb hwarrier! undefined! 1136415235 M * dreamist well the UP kernel seems to be chugging away :-/ 1136415279 M * Bertl hmm, time comparison to SMP? 1136415300 M * dreamist its been running doing 3 kernel compiles and a bonnie++ for an hour and a half now.. 1136415308 M * dreamist the previous SMP crash took around 30 minutes 1136415325 M * dreamist so.. not definitive yet, certainly, but still interesting 1136415357 M * dreamist any idea why my memory usage halved by going to the UP kernel? 1136415399 M * dreamist does the UP kernel use a different buffering strategy or something? 1136415627 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1136415695 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US 1136415824 M * Bertl dreamist: memory usage as in? 1136415847 M * dreamist as in the results from the free command 1136415884 M * dreamist with the smp kernel, I was hovering at around 1.2gb used, 800mb free.. UP kernel seems to have sort of swapped those numbers.. I didn't pay attention before to how much was dedicated to buffers -- probably should have ;-) 1136415911 Q * bwana Quit: doh 1136416084 Q * mattg Quit: Leaving 1136416963 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au 1136417005 M * Bertl welcome anonc! 1136417189 Q * tso Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! 1136417194 M * anonc hola bertl 1136417211 M * anonc how did the new year go for you? 1136417279 M * Bertl well, interesting times as usual :) 1136417290 M * anonc good to hear 1136417493 M * Bertl anonc: and for you? 1136417534 M * anonc 'twas ok - same as every year really 1136417605 M * anonc Bertl: i assume you are back home now? 1136417625 M * Bertl yes, I am :) 1136417645 J * aj_ ~aj@dslb-084-058-193-181.pools.arcor-ip.net 1136417742 M * Bertl welcome aj_! 1136417792 M * aj_ Bertl, derjohn greets you ;) I at home and working form here ... no biouncer so: secondary nick ;) 1136417822 M * anonc Bertl: regarding ckrm - is it still the case that it doesn't have a 1 to 1 feature match with the current vserver resource limiting features? 1136417859 M * Bertl anonc: IMHO it even got worse ... 1136417888 M * Bertl anonc: at least last time I checked ckrm it was missing most of the classifiers, not to speak of the limits 1136417923 M * anonc thats not too god - are they going backwards or something? 1136417966 M * Bertl it seems like they drop/delay everything but the core system with every new release 1136418063 M * anonc what has been the thought from the core kernel developers regarding its inclusion? 1136418086 M * Bertl you ahve to ask them, I ahve no idea :) 1136418127 M * aj_ Bertl, any news from the DDs? I even spotted one more here which joined the channel 1136418322 M * Bertl aj_: ah, no, except for a msg from waldi that he managed to compile the kernel :) 1136418371 M * waldi and run a vserver after some problems 1136418397 M * aj_ waldi, congrats! Is zobel with you in the kernel team? 1136418407 J * bwana ~bwana@68-117-34-122.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com 1136418505 M * waldi no 1136418900 M * bwana so does this ubuntu vserver stuff work well,better than the debian one anyway 1136418964 M * Bertl bwana: interesting question ... well, it seems that both have their issues, but it seems that they might be fixed soon 1136418987 M * bwana how so 1136419036 M * Bertl ubuntu seems to basically 'reuse' the debian packages 1136419064 M * Bertl and the older debian packages are broken 1136419072 M * bwana so i hear