1136160565 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1136162685 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-46-211.bulldogdsl.com 1136162816 M * Bertl welcome jayeola! 1136162847 M * matti Bertl: Not sleep? 1136162859 M * Bertl well, in a few hours ... 1136163134 M * jayeola hey Bertl :-) vservers have landed.... thanks for all of your help! 1136163168 M * Bertl you're welcome! if you like to, please add yourself/your company to the wiki ... 1136163186 M * Bertl (if not already done so) 1136163236 M * jayeola um.. will do but before that got major testing to do.. and documentation (in case i fall under a bus ;=]) 1136163252 M * Bertl np 1136163270 M * jayeola but most importantly i'd like to thank you for your immense patience... and Cru 1136163309 M * jayeola i was suffering from rpm-itis and waaaaah-n00bism 1136163593 M * Bertl well, hapens now and then :) 1136164333 J * Gerden ~Danger@20150156047.user.veloxzone.com.br 1136164344 M * Bertl welcome Gerden! 1136164459 J * sebi ~sebi@Fcfb0.f.strato-dslnet.de 1136164566 Q * sebi_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136167545 Q * Gerden Quit: flw! #) 1136167978 J * wasser ~wasser@ip86.ipax.at 1136168445 M * Bertl welcome wasser! 1136168794 J * CJ1 ~godeep336@pool-71-100-32-51.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net 1136168853 P * CJ1 1136173390 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-251-23.netcologne.de 1136173806 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136174074 J * balbir ~balbir@59.92.138.33 1136174091 M * Bertl welcome balbir 1136174505 J * PsYcHoDeLiCa NasxD@39-108-223-201.adsl.terra.cl 1136174509 P * PsYcHoDeLiCa 1136175699 Q * cehteh Remote host closed the connection 1136176605 Q * dhansen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136176959 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org 1136179308 J * hdfhds ~fptchatte@222.252.38.244 1136179711 N * [MUPPETS]Gonzo [PUPPETS]Gonzo 1136180463 Q * hdfhds Quit: 1136181239 M * LCamel hi all 1136181347 M * LCamel I'm trying to gpt-get install kubuntu-desktop in a vserver env, but a package "bluez-utils" wants to mknod /dev/vhci and failed 1136181440 M * LCamel I don't know which kind of node does it need, so i randomly pick a setting to "mknod vhci b 1 1" from the host 1136181483 M * LCamel But it starts to complain about "file exists".. 1136181670 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1136183081 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136183781 J * balbir ~balbir@59.92.156.137 1136183833 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.92.156.137 1136183849 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1136184523 M * LCamel The problem has be solved .. but i'm not sure what did i do 1136185676 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1136186246 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.whizwire.org 1136186360 J * Greek0_ ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1136186361 Q * Greek0 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1136187124 J * infowolfe jthm@209-112-210-87-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1136187141 P * infowolfe 1136187901 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio48.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1136187923 M * Milf morning folks 1136188250 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-12-105.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1136188311 N * meandtheshell meandtheshell_oO 1136189289 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-81-173-170-225.netcologne.de 1136189456 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136189666 Q * Adrinael Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136189673 Q * jayeola Quit: leaving 1136190089 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136190181 J * oDn ~odn@pcam.net1.nerim.net 1136190257 M * oDn hey all 1136190776 J * _are_ ~are@p54A08165.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1136190824 J * infowolfe infowolfe@209-112-210-87-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1136190868 M * infowolfe !metadata swig 1136190874 M * infowolfe oops 1136190875 M * infowolfe sorry 1136191187 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-93-109-94.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1136191380 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-19-14.netcologne.de 1136191484 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136191944 J * gudi ~maurer@nm.it-mn.de 1136191945 M * gudi hi 1136191969 M * gudi how can i setup vserver to tell the space when usedf inside a verver 1136192062 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136192167 P * undefined 1136192318 M * _are_ gudi: what kind of space? disk space? memory? 1136192344 M * gudi disk space 1136192571 M * cehteh thats hardly to tell since the vserver cant tell which files are unified and shared between vservers 1136192811 M * cehteh for user dirs with changing content you can use du .. or setup quotas 1136193109 J * balbir ~balbir@59.92.159.51 1136193739 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1136193915 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1136194071 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136194488 M * sizo moin 1136195917 M * gudi anyone is using vserver in a production system ? 1136195927 M * aba yes 1136195973 M * gudi aba, you use it for costumers or for run many servers like mailserver websever on one server ? 1136195994 M * aba gudi: second. 1136196015 M * gudi how many vserver you run on your server ? 1136196070 M * gudi im thinking about migrate my mail, web,dns to one vserver.. i would ceate one vserver for each and create one mysql vserver to hold the mysql db for the other vserver 1136196139 M * gudi aba, what you think about such a solution.. i just get my new sunfire4200 with 4 gb ram.. will it handle this ? 1136196201 M * aba well, depends on your load I'd say. If your web server saturates all the ram and network alone ... :) 1136196212 M * gudi no ;-) 1136196217 M * aba other than this, you could run a couple of vservers easily on that 1136196227 M * gudi aba, what for servers you use on one vserver ? 1136196286 M * michal_ man, i've been running ten vservers or more at my laptop ;p 1136196300 M * michal_ all depends on your requirments, load, services inside 1136196330 M * michal_ since there is not virtualisation involved vserver is a piece of cake, with almost 0 overhead 1136196339 M * aba gudi: I run a wanna-build, buildd, debian mirror, debian archive master on it 1136196346 Q * Pazzo Quit: ... 1136196425 M * gudi you use qoutas etc on it to ? 1136196520 M * aba I personally use different partitions - other people do it different 1136196560 M * LCamel A Copy-n-Paste VServer Guide for Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy http://lcamel.blogspot.com/2006/01/copy-n-paste-vserver-guide-for-ubuntu.html 1136196761 J * balbir ~balbir@59.92.132.183 1136196968 Q * balbir Quit: 1136196994 J * balbir ~balbir@59.92.132.183 1136197426 M * _are_ gudi: I run mail, dns, samba, database, web and a few other services in seperate vservers. I use different partitions to make sure no vserver can kill the other by filling up the disk. 1136197464 M * _are_ I run the smae setup on a variety of machines from a 1G RAM 3GHz P4 to a dual Opteron 246 with 8GB RAM. 1136197482 M * _are_ the vservers themselves don't actually need much ressources, the services do 1136197551 M * _are_ so in general if ypou could run all services on the same box and have enough ram/cpu for this, you can go and do them into vservers, too. All you need is more diskspace for the additional installations and perhaps a bit more ... 1136197551 M * _are_ ram as libraries might end up less shared 1136198192 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi 1136198977 M * michal_ now there is unification that helps even more to save memory and disk space 1136199010 M * _are_ michal_: yes, if savinbg diskspace is a real matter, but I mysefl prefer the added security of different partitions 1136199139 M * michal_ it is rather for increasing performance and memory usage than disk space 1136199316 M * _are_ yes, but for my setups it is fast enough as it is, so I still prefer the added security. Might be quite different if i e.g. did vserver-hosting for a few doozen/100 servers/webservers 1136199377 M * _are_ but i mainly do vservers to a) make redundant servers more easy and b) be able to update a single service with all libraries completly ignoring the others 1136199537 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136202312 J * jsaw ~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de 1136202619 M * jsaw hi all 1136202737 M * bubulak hihi 1136202757 M * jsaw how do I get patch-2.6.15-rc7-vs2.0.1.diff compiled on a 64bit machine, are there any additional patches? 1136202763 M * jsaw hi bubulak 1136202830 M * jsaw (the vx_ ## member ## pages64... funcs/defs are nowhere to be found) 1136202935 M * jsaw oh, mnemoc is also here... hi 1136203039 M * _are_ jsaw: not that I have any answer, but what kind of 64 bit machine? 1136203054 M * jsaw sempron 64 1136203067 M * jsaw well, athlon64 optimization for kernel 1136203131 M * jsaw the delta-mm64-fix01.diff seems to be related to it... 1136203166 M * jsaw but I'm not sure... 1136203258 M * _are_ k, just as i decided to update a dual-operon a few minutes ago. But I will keep 2.6.14.4 and vserver-2.0.1 1136203278 M * _are_ any special reason to use 2.6.15-rc7 or just 'because'? 1136203337 M * jsaw T2 SDE 1136203337 M * _are_ c 1136203348 M * _are_ eh? menas nothing to me 1136203374 M * jsaw www.t2-project.org 1136203399 M * _are_ yes, google already found it ;) 1136203403 M * jsaw hehe 1136203414 M * jsaw I'm slow, too early in the morning for a night owl... 1136203470 M * jsaw <-- getting a coffee, brb 1136203478 M * _are_ hmm, the site gives me a hint it is a linux (and other OS) distribution, but that's it 1136203498 M * _are_ ok 'bleeding edge' is mentioned, but no links except an irc channel and a mailinglist 1136203500 M * jsaw before I leave... 1136203534 M * jsaw compare it to gentoo: 1136203546 M * jsaw T2 SDE starts one step earlier 1136203556 M * jsaw it provides the framework to build a distribution 1136203567 M * jsaw i.e. it is not a distribution in itself 1136203589 M * jsaw but there are, of course, T2 powered distributions 1136203594 M * jsaw which we also offer ourselves 1136203608 M * _are_ ok, when you click on 'T2 Development Team' you get more links. Perhaps you want to add a link to 'About' on the start page. :-) 1136203621 M * jsaw http://www.t2-project.org/about.html 1136203628 M * _are_ well, my understanding of Gentoo as such was to provide a distribution to create distributions 1136203628 M * jsaw ^-- there is! 1136203647 M * _are_ for some reason people started to use Gentoo as a distribution 1136203669 M * _are_ so T2 seems to do what I understood Gentoo would? 1136203684 M * jsaw roughly, yes 1136203784 M * jsaw _are_: you're from Stuttgart? 1136203787 M * _are_ ok, somehow it decided to give me the german language page and that page has no menu. The english one has 1136203789 M * _are_ yes 1136203848 M * jsaw ohoh, checking 1136203870 N * Greek0_ Greek0 1136203893 M * jsaw _are_: you are on "https://www2.*", aren't you? 1136203896 M * _are_ spanish menu has 1 link, french and portugese none, either 1136203897 M * _are_ yes 1136203899 M * jsaw that's not yet official 1136203901 M * jsaw ... 1136203921 M * jsaw one of the web page maintainers had to do other things... 1136203926 M * _are_ :-> 1136203931 M * jsaw take http://www.t2-project.org 1136203939 M * jsaw it's not as shiny, but usable... 1136203956 M * jsaw .oO(how did google rank this up???) 1136203976 M * _are_ well, it did. 1136204050 M * jsaw obviously has to be corrected 1136204066 M * _are_ yes, already there 1136204071 M * bubulak somebody know ... SIGNAL type called to guest vserver stop ? 1136204114 M * _are_ bubulak: no signal used afaik, use vserver vsevrer-name stop 1136204176 M * bubulak ok ok ... but problem its that ... if i stop guest on slackware the rc scritp end complete but pid 1 (init) don't stop 1136204202 M * bubulak and then if i vkill him vhit signal -9 ... than stops 1136204224 M * _are_ and this is the only process that remains? 1136204229 M * bubulak yes 1136204288 M * BWare bubulak: try updating to a more recent version of util-vserver (if possible) 1136204293 A * _are_ has no vserver-specific init process visible from outside a vserver at all in a normal vserver 1136204298 M * bubulak i have 209 version 1136204322 M * bubulak _are_: i see that only whit vps 1136204343 M * bubulak root 17494 49165 www 1 0 11:27 ? 00:00:00 init [3] 1136204343 M * _are_ bubulak: yes, but I see none 1136204358 M * _are_ -> you use a special init process, I use default 1136204362 M * bubulak i see that on all vservers 1136204451 M * bubulak hmm you true 1136204481 M * bubulak hpw i switch to default ? 1136204483 M * _are_ my /etc/vservers//apps/init/ is empty. 1136204485 M * bubulak how 1136204509 M * bubulak hmm ... i must to use style plain for slack 1136204531 M * _are_ have no slack here, why is it needed? 1136204550 M * bubulak if you want start it ... than yes :) 1136204682 M * jsaw _are_: t2 could be intersting for you if you want to provide specialized distros to your customers ;) 1136204688 J * shedi ~siggi@213-140-22-77.fastres.net 1136204702 M * _are_ jsaw: i avoid providing special distributions :-) 1136204723 M * jsaw of course you are 1136204736 M * jsaw I said, it could be interesting... 1136204764 M * jsaw I didn't express myself clearly... 1136204806 J * pflanze ~chris@unk-110.ethz.ch 1136204810 M * pflanze Hello 1136204865 M * jsaw _are_: http://www.archivista.ch/ (they are a customer of ExactCODE, and using T2) 1136204908 M * pflanze I've noticed that the /proc/{virtnet,virtual}/*/ dirs all have 2 links, and thus "find" doesn't enter them and does not find the files in them. 1136204957 M * pflanze (pinging Bertl_zZ for attention when he gets back) 1136205163 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1136205493 M * BWare pflanze: find -follow (to follow symlinks) 1136205507 M * pflanze they are not symlinks 1136205526 M * pflanze I'm talking about the number of hardlinks in the dir's stat info. 1136205556 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@209-112-210-87-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1136205561 M * pflanze hm. strange that it helps anyway. 1136205591 M * jsaw _are_: do you have an idea, who I could bug for the 64bit thing? 1136205615 M * pflanze Nonetheless, I think it's a small bug which one might want to fix, BWare. 1136205661 M * BWare ehrm 1136205675 M * BWare I only see files (in the CTXID dirs) 1136205703 M * pflanze (info find says that -follow implies -noleaf, that's the reason for why it helps.) 1136205740 M * pflanze BWare: I'm talking about the ctxid dirs themselves. 1136205752 M * pflanze do find /proc/virtnet 1136205755 Q * marl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136205818 M * BWare This is what ls shows me: 1136205821 M * BWare ls -al /proc/virtual/ 1136205821 M * BWare total 0 1136205822 M * BWare dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 2 13:39 . 1136205822 M * BWare dr-xr-xr-x 228 root root 0 Dec 28 15:17 .. 1136205823 M * BWare dr--r--r-- 2 root root 0 Jan 2 13:39 2005 1136205823 M * BWare dr--r--r-- 2 root root 0 Jan 2 13:39 36 1136205824 M * BWare dr--r--r-- 2 root root 0 Jan 2 13:39 80 1136205838 M * BWare permissions are pretty strict 1136205864 M * BWare And find: 1136205866 M * BWare find /proc/virtual/ 1136205871 M * BWare /proc/virtual/ 1136205871 M * BWare /proc/virtual/info 1136205871 M * BWare /proc/virtual/status 1136205872 M * BWare /proc/virtual/80 1136205872 M * BWare /proc/virtual/2005 1136205873 M * BWare /proc/virtual/36 1136205881 M * BWare No problems here ;) 1136205882 M * pflanze yep so you see the issue? 1136205887 M * pflanze doh. 1136205903 M * pflanze you have to open your eyes ;) 1136205930 M * pflanze like, isnt' it strange that the contents of those numbered dirs is not shown? 1136205997 M * pflanze It's because find (w/o the -noleaf flag) looks at the number of hardlinks, and if it's 2, it doesn't descend. 1136206007 M * pflanze dr--r--r-- 2 root root 0 Jan 2 13:39 2005 1136206013 M * pflanze ^ 1136206043 M * BWare That's why I specify what I want to find ;) -type f et voila... all is well :) 1136206073 M * pflanze what is well? 1136206109 M * BWare Hmm 1136206118 M * BWare I see your point :o 1136206184 M * pflanze ok :) 1136208505 N * Guest489 cattivik 1136211316 M * yang2 IS it possible to limit the amount of RAM to the vserver? 1136211463 J * Kara_ ~Kashira@ip-80-226-233-86.vodafone-net.de 1136211469 M * Kara_ hi all 1136211946 M * _are_ yang2: yes, in a very similar way to ulimit 1136214809 J * UKCTornado UKCTornado@ACC9AE13.ipt.aol.com 1136214856 Q * UKCTornado Remote host closed the connection 1136215156 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1136217065 M * infowolfe any kernel hackers available for non-linux-vserver help? 1136217154 M * infowolfe wondering what could have caused http://pastebin.com/487217 1136217308 Q * Kara_ Quit: 1136217410 M * pflanze infowolfe: you might have more luck in #kernelnewbies 1136217425 M * infowolfe alrighty 1136217717 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1136218152 M * pflanze Hm, seems that in vserver 2, chcontext --ctx 1 isn't enough anymore to see open network sockets of all processes. 1136218166 M * pflanze At least, chcontext --silent --ctx 1 lsof -i -n doesn't show them. 1136218177 M * pflanze How should it be done now? 1136218238 M * pflanze Funny, netstat does show them. 1136218281 M * pflanze But: netstat doesn't show PID/Program name anymore. 1136218284 M * pflanze Why is this? 1136218377 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136218797 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru 1136220347 M * daniel_hozac LCamel: FYI, the util-vserver available in Ubuntu is broken, IIRC. it's suggested to install from source. 1136220468 Q * shuri Quit: Quitte 1136220789 Q * gudi Quit: Verlassend 1136221067 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136221102 J * Doener doener@i5387DA59.versanet.de 1136221279 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1136221286 M * Bertl morning folks! 1136221305 M * bubulak hi 1136221307 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ubuntu too? 1136221458 M * bubulak btw ... util-vservers 0.30.209 scripts/vserver-build.functions line 137 and 138 /etc/slackware-release ... this file in slackware don't exist ... must be /etc/slackware-version 1136221512 M * aba Bertl: ubuntu usually just rebrands what is in debian ... 1136221537 Q * BWare Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136221549 M * Bertl aba: well, but I would expect them to use stuff from testing/unstable? 1136221912 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1136221987 M * Bertl bubulak: ah, great, please submit a bug-report to savannah! 1136222009 M * Bertl (maybe with a small patch, but probably not required) 1136222256 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1136222393 M * bubulak hmm ... 1136222422 Q * cattivik Quit: Client exiting 1136222780 M * Bertl aba: what do I ahve to write to the sources.list file to make debian for i386 work/find stuff? 1136222788 M * Bertl aba: (debian sarge that is) 1136222796 J * steinpt ~steinpt@17.84-48-64.nextgentel.com 1136222814 M * Bertl welcome steinpt! 1136222881 M * steinpt I'm getting an "--import: unknown option" when running the vserver build command according to the Centos howto at http://linux-vserver.org/CentOS_HowTo. This is on an Ubuntu host... Any ideas? 1136222888 M * steinpt Hi there Bertl! 1136222917 M * Bertl steinpt: as I just heard, please update tools to (working?) 0.30.209, and try again 1136222944 M * steinpt ok, I'll give that a shot! Thx 1136222945 M * Bertl aba: nevermind, google found an answer for me 1136223126 Q * BWare Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136223382 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: Ubuntu has a 0.30.208+fix01 version that has the PIC issue. 1136223440 M * Bertl ah, okay, so they are not completely up-to-date, but at least have a newer version 1136223631 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1136223853 M * steinpt Bertl: So, the 0.30.208-4uk version in Ubuntu is too old? 1136223882 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1136223895 M * Bertl steinpt: I was told that it is broken ... 1136223908 M * Bertl welcome prae! wb BWare! 1136223959 M * steinpt Ah, ok. Can I use the 'util-vserver-0.30.tar.bz2' from 13thfloor? 1136224088 M * steinpt Never mind, found it! 1136224199 M * Bertl steinpt: 0.30.209 please :) 1136224935 Q * oDn Read error: Connection reset by peer 1136225446 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.35.186 1136225544 M * Bertl welcome lilalinux! 1136225636 M * _are_ Bertl: if your debian-sarge-apt-sources have not been answered: 1136225644 M * _are_ deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main 1136225644 M * _are_ deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main 1136225644 M * _are_ deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free 1136225644 M * _are_ deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free 1136225653 M * Bertl _are_: tx, but google found it for me ... 1136225745 N * meandtheshell_oO meandtheshell 1136226202 M * Bertl wb meandtheshell! 1136226240 M * meandtheshell Bertl: good evening 1136226379 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136226801 M * FaUl Bertl: tried with gcc 3.* as well - does not work either 1136226813 M * FaUl i'll look a little bit further now 1136226823 Q * lilo Quit: bbiab 1136226830 M * Bertl FaUl: compiling the binutils? 1136226840 M * FaUl Bertl: yes 1136226878 M * Bertl FaUl: maybe ask the parisc folks, probably they have customized binutils too 1136226924 M * FaUl ok 1136226986 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1136227667 J * _are_ ~are@dslb-084-056-152-172.pools.arcor-ip.net 1136228236 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@209-112-210-87-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1136228501 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1136228607 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1136228641 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136229961 M * Bertl pflanze: ping! 1136229967 M * pflanze Hi Bertl 1136230013 M * Bertl hey, read about your issues with lsof, now investigating 1136230023 M * pflanze cool 1136230040 M * Bertl pflanze: do you know the last version which got this 'right'? 1136230066 M * pflanze I've never seen it before, although I didn't use lsof that often. 1136230082 M * pflanze "Before" means 1.2.x and 1.3.x versions, iirc 1136230097 M * Bertl okay, so we do not know about 2.0 at all 1136230102 M * pflanze no 1136230113 J * shedi ~siggi@213-140-22-77.fastres.net 1136230124 M * Bertl pflanze: and you are now using what kernel version? 1136230135 M * pflanze 2.6.14.4-vs201 1136230230 M * Bertl it must be some minor issue which keeps lsof from reporting, you can do a simple test 1136230269 M * Bertl wc /proc/net/tcp 1136230277 M * Bertl chcontext --xid 1 wc /proc/net/tcp 1136230301 M * pflanze root@elvis root# wc /proc/net/tcp 1136230301 M * pflanze 4 63 600 /proc/net/tcp 1136230301 M * pflanze root@elvis root# chcontext --xid 1 wc /proc/net/tcp 1136230301 M * pflanze 72 1219 10800 /proc/net/tcp 1136230318 M * Bertl see, so the info is there ... 1136230330 M * pflanze yes, and netstat reports it even 1136230354 M * pflanze but as I've said, netstat doesn't see pids and process names with 2.0 1136230367 M * pflanze unlike 'before'. 1136230386 M * Bertl cmdline? 1136230406 M * pflanze chcontext --silent --ctx 1 netstat -A inet -p -l -n 1136230434 M * Bertl does it work on the host? e.g. 'netstat -A inet -p -l -n'? 1136230434 M * pflanze (s/--silent//) 1136230440 M * jsaw re 1136230447 M * Bertl wb jsaw! 1136230453 M * jsaw hi Bertl 1136230468 M * pflanze yes, it works as normal on the host, and with ctx 1 it shows the processes from the host still as normal. 1136230480 M * pflanze Only the processes in vservers show only "-" 1136230482 M * jsaw anybody around that knows about the delta-mm64-fix01.diff? 1136230494 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1136230510 M * Bertl jsaw: yup, I know about it. whats up? 1136230559 M * pflanze (This is part of the output of the above cmdline for me: 1136230561 M * pflanze Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name 1136230561 M * pflanze tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:993 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - 1136230561 M * pflanze tcp 0 0 10.0.6.1:8005 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - 1136230561 M * pflanze tcp 0 0 10.0.14.1:8005 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - 1136230562 M * pflanze ... 1136230566 M * daniel_hozac pflanze: yep, i'm seeing that too. 1136230568 M * pflanze tcp 0 0 129.132.126.110:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2234/sshd 1136230569 M * pflanze ..) 1136230579 M * pflanze strange that it shows 0.0.0.0, too 1136230582 M * Bertl pflanze: yep, interesting, maybe that is connected 1136230584 M * jsaw Bertl: it looks a bit strange, aren't the vx_ ## member ## ... functions needed? 1136230593 M * pflanze "before", it showed the chbound ip's. 1136230596 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136230616 M * Bertl jsaw: you mean the 64 bit versions? 1136230622 M * jsaw Bertl: yep 1136230624 M * daniel_hozac pflanze: IIRC it'll show 0.0.0.0 if your vserver have mutliple IP addresses. 1136230644 Q * micah Quit: Lost terminal 1136230651 M * jsaw Bertl: I know it doesn't compile without on 64bit platforms, only it looks strange .oO 1136230673 J * micah ~micah@69.90.134.205 1136230693 M * Bertl jsaw: the atomic operations were moved to vs_memory.h 1136230716 M * pflanze daniel_hozac: hmyeah, from inside the vservers, that's what I expect and also have seen. I'm now wondering if I've always seen those 0.0.0.0 -- I'm used to the above cmdline and have used it often in the past, weird if I don't remember that. 1136230720 M * Bertl jsaw: so it became transparent for 'most' 64bit ops 1136230741 M * jsaw Bertl: so, to compile for 64bit, I only need this additional fix, right? 1136230770 M * Bertl yep 1136230789 M * jsaw good 1136230791 M * jsaw thanks! 1136230798 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1136230811 M * Bertl jsaw: x86_64 or more unusual 64bit arch? 1136230842 M * Bertl wb micah? 1136230893 M * jsaw Bertl: yep, x86_64, athlon64 optim 1136230968 N * infowolfe_ infowolfe 1136231061 M * pflanze (ok, it *may* be that I never was able to distinguish which vserver a process shown by netstat was in.) 1136231065 M * Bertl jsaw: works fine here ... 1136231084 M * Bertl pflanze: that's not unexpected .. the tools are not xid aware 1136231090 M * pflanze yes 1136231111 M * pflanze I think I once wrote a wrapper which parsed output and looked up the xid in /proc, 1136231117 M * pflanze but I can't find that wrapper anymore... 1136231144 M * Bertl vps auxwww | grep pid 1136231154 M * pflanze sure that's one way. 1136231191 M * pflanze But I did a program which complemented the tabular output of some program (netstat or lsof or...) with an xid column 1136231201 M * jsaw Bertl: so, gonna try now (actually I'll try vserver for the first time) 1136231214 M * mnemoc hi jsaw :) 1136231232 M * Bertl jsaw: and starting with experimental? not bad :) 1136231322 M * jsaw let's see :) 1136231556 M * pflanze Bertl: I think I'll look more into those things when I go about setting up two new machines (maybe next weekend or so). 1136231573 M * pflanze (Then I'll also finish merging grsec and try that out) 1136231586 M * Bertl okay, tx for the report! 1136231613 M * pflanze np; btw have you seen the issue with /proc/virt*/*/ dirs? 1136231641 M * pflanze (hardlink count, and missing x bit) 1136231717 M * pflanze l -d /proc/v*/*/ (Bertl ping). 1136231718 M * Bertl no, not yet 1136231755 M * Bertl ah, yes, interesting :) 1136231755 M * pflanze "find" won't work properly with those. I guess it's an oversight somewhere. 1136231785 M * Bertl okay, looks good, some work to do (fixing bugs :) 1136231820 M * pflanze Work won't cease in the new year :) 1136231823 M * steinpt Sorry, a really newbie question...: I am trying to get a CentOS guest up and running on an Ubuntu host, and the CentOS howto (http://linux-vserver.org/CentOS_HowTo) is using the Yum, which of course gives me 'Yum, command not found'. Is there any easy way to use plain rpm instead? 1136231857 M * Bertl steinpt: yes, you can use 'plain' rpm, but does that work on ubuntu? 1136231958 M * steinpt Well, at least in Ubuntu rpm is installed from Ubuntu repositories as opposed to yum... 1136232104 Q * DaCa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136232116 Q * cehteh Remote host closed the connection 1136232151 M * Bertl steinpt: okay, 'just' use the -m rpm build method instead of the yum 1136232172 M * pflanze What's this?: 1136232174 M * pflanze root@elvis root# chcontext --ctx 1 /root/bin/show_tcpconnections 1136232174 M * pflanze vcontext: execvp("/root/bin/show_tcpconnections"): Bad address 1136232176 M * Bertl steinpt: but you have to do the job yum usually does (i.e. getting the dependancies resolved 1136232193 M * pflanze ah 1136232202 M * pflanze missing shebang line 1136232214 M * pflanze (works from directly under the shell, but not otherwise) 1136232219 M * steinpt Bertl: Ok thx again, I really appreciate it! 1136232277 M * Bertl steinpt: you're welcome! 1136232295 M * Bertl pflanze: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/BUGHUNT/pflanze-000{1,2} 1136232343 M * pflanze Bertl: I've found my wrapper again. And yes, it doesn't report xid anymore, of course, since pid is missing from netstat output. 1136232450 M * pflanze you should probably strip the pid before diffing :) 1136232509 M * Bertl pflanze: yup, just noticed 1136232511 M * pflanze substituting is also a solution :)) 1136232523 M * Bertl update the diff 1136232531 M * Bertl s/update/reload/ 1136232539 M * pflanze yes, that's what I did 1136232561 M * pflanze I'm fast ;) 1136232583 M * Bertl good, now tell me the relevant difference :) 1136232597 M * jsaw Bertl: oh, now I start thinking as you mentioned experimental: does it work with vs2.0.1 also, or is this fix only for v2.1.* 1136232616 M * Bertl jsaw: now, the fix is for all 2.6.15-* kernels 1136232621 M * Bertl s/now/no/ 1136232636 M * jsaw ok. 1136232667 M * jsaw Then I'll come back when the system is installed and vserver related question starts to pop up :) 1136232677 M * jsaw cu later 1136232689 M * Bertl cya! but feel free to hang around! 1136232730 M * pflanze (old_mmap vs mmap ?) btw what is .in and .out? 1136232759 M * Bertl .in is inside, .out is outside ... I'd go for the EACCESS on the fd :) 1136232798 M * Bertl -11143 open("/proc/10287/fd", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) 1136232817 M * pflanze ok, so you think you've found the bug? 1136232850 M * Bertl we'll see, I don't know where it is now, but I have a few ideas 1136232888 M * Bertl (usually reproducable bugs are fixed within a few hours) 1136232941 M * pflanze are you using UML for debugging, btw? 1136232954 M * Bertl no, I used to use it before QEMU was there 1136232960 M * pflanze ah, ok 1136232984 M * Bertl btw, QEMU now has SMP support and a bunch of system archs 1136233038 M * daniel_hozac oh, nice! 1136233197 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1136233391 Q * sebi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136233461 J * lilalinux ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net 1136234338 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-221-226.netcologne.de 1136234553 M * FaUl FSCKING BINUTILS 1136234558 M * FaUl where is yyparse from again? 1136234643 M * Bertl yack/lex 1136234648 M * Bertl yacc/lex 1136234710 M * FaUl gnu has bison instead of yacc, right? 1136234717 M * Bertl yup 1136234761 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136234771 M * FaUl and flex instead of lex? 1136234814 M * FaUl .oO( i'll make distclean and try once again...) 1136235877 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-184-130.netcologne.de 1136235984 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136236361 M * FaUl Bertl: giving up on binutils for today 1136236369 M * FaUl seems that it is broken on sparc 1136236375 M * FaUl i'll try gdb again :-) 1136238256 M * FaUl Bertl: gdb is broken as well as binutils 1136238258 M * FaUl that sucks 1136238835 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1136238908 J * lchvdlch ~nestor@200.48.10.9 1136239093 M * lchvdlch hi all, I have 1.2.10 working on kernel 2.4.31, but I can't use the default strace, as it doesn't seem to know anything about vc_new_s_context syscall, where can I find a patched strace, patchset or information about strace and vserver? (I tried google, but the patch to strace 4.5.1 doesn't work either with this version of vserver) 1136239397 M * bubulak try vserver --debug guest start ... stop or what :) 1136239718 M * lchvdlch oh well, I don't need a complete server, just need to exec some program in another context, so I call vc_new_s_context from my program, and I'm having troubles, but can't trace where is the problem (as strace doesn't know that syscall) 1136239737 M * lchvdlch s/complete server/complete virtual server/ 1136240815 Q * steinpt Quit: Leaving 1136243108 P * meandtheshell 1136243129 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1136243353 M * lchvdlch :( 1136243381 J * shedi ~siggi@213-140-22-77.fastres.net 1136243664 J * are|lunch ~are@dslb-084-056-142-085.pools.arcor-ip.net 1136244074 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1136246252 M * daniel_hozac strace should still show the syscall. 1136246264 M * daniel_hozac even if it doesn't know it. 1136246290 M * daniel_hozac should be shown as SYS_#(...), IIRC 1136246386 M * lchvdlch oh well, it shows shmget (?) and nothing about vc_new_s_context