1135814991 M * michal_ [01:03:19] < spender> remotely exploitable bug in all vmware products
1135814991 M * michal_ [01:03:46] < spender> with guest networking set to NAT
1135814991 M * michal_ [01:04:30] < spender> arbitrary code execution :p
1135816064 Q * Marinus Read error: Connection reset by peer
1135816706 Q * Skeeve Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135816887 M * derjohn michal_, poooh, fine that we don't use that here ;) *thumbs*
1135817216 M * ag- proprietary software is shit as always
1135817301 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1135817594 M * SiD3WiNDR dang, I do, but not with nat ;)
1135819175 M * cehteh they fixed it already 
1135819210 M * cehteh bad enough .. but i have to use vmware :(
1135819873 M * derjohn michal_, who is "spender" ?
1135819939 M * mnemoc grsec guy
1135819962 M * derjohn mnemoc, k. thx.
1135820147 Q * cehteh Remote host closed the connection
1135820331 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1135820760 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1135820778 M * Doener morning Bertl
1135820782 M * Bertl hey folks!
1135820785 M * jayeola :-)
1135820794 M * jayeola hello, old chap
1135820813 M * Bertl still have to catch some zzZ, but have to get something to eat first
1135820830 M * distortion bertl: 4.5 hours sleep sheesh
1135820847 M * Bertl distortion: will hopefulle get more till the morning ...
1135820918 M * Bertl regarding the vmware issue, I pasted that a few days ago, IIRC, I was especially surprised that you could espace the virtual machine...
1135821025 M * Bertl (something you would not expect from an emulator)
1135821060 M * Doener Bertl: it's similar to some theoretical exploit for the tun/tap device that you could exploit from within a qemu guest, isn't it?
1135821125 M * Doener (theoretical exploit == i don't know any such exploit)
1135821157 M * Bertl well, yes, I _know_ _how_ it works, and basically you could use _any_ exploit of a communication channel, but nevertheless it was surprising to hear of a _real_ issue
1135821242 M * Bertl IMHO it is the same level as a 'bad' piece of C code, which exploits your gcc to execute when being compiled :)
1135821695 M * Bertl .o( hmm, everybody is now verifying the gcc source code :)
1135821707 M * Bertl s/verifying/auditing 
1135821780 M * Doener *LOL*
1135821844 M * jayeola ok, thanks to all i have managed to patch a centos box (yum 2.4.0) in order to build the vserver tools - probably final question
1135821868 M * Bertl hey, Doener, I have a very interesting idea, but no time for the necessary investigations (regarding QEMU and debugging)
1135821903 M * jayeola .. is it ok to run `yum upgrade` as per normal?
1135821908 M * Bertl jayeola: congratulations, I guess you owe Cru a beer at least?
1135821915 M * jayeola on the host ?
1135821924 M * jayeola yah - it's ice creams all round
1135821929 M * jayeola oh the house!!
1135821944 M * Bertl you can run upgrades and/or updates anytime on the host or guests
1135821952 M * jayeola phew...
1135821971 M * Bertl just be careful with the 'special' packages like yum
1135821986 M * jayeola i must say, thank you everso much for your immense *patience*
1135821989 M * Bertl you have to keep them from being 'updated'
1135822003 M * jayeola that's what i'm concerened about...
1135822040 M * Bertl but, IIRC, there is some file (you have to google for it, or ask somebody actually using yum) which lists packages which should not be touched
1135822069 M * jayeola i ran yum -U <Cru's patch>.rpm but i'd dare not update this thing now...
1135822080 M * jayeola prolly /etc/yum.conf??
1135822139 M * jayeola or even /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo, perhaps
1135822287 M * Bertl yeah, well, you have to read docu or ask somebody who knows ...
1135822325 M * Bertl maybe it doesn't even exist, in which case you would have to manually uninstall the 'updated' yum after upgrade/update and reinstall the patched one
1135822369 M * jayeola <thinking/>
1135822584 Q * jayeola Quit: brb
1135822722 M * Bertl Doener: so, are you interested or too busy for a little research?
1135822733 M * Doener got any details?
1135822761 M * Doener not too many though, just wanna get the idea
1135822766 M * Doener ;)
1135822769 M * Bertl sure, the idea is basically to modify QEMU in such way, that it supports a 'few' special commands (in the emulation)
1135822806 M * Bertl machine instructions to be precise, which can be either immediate or with register/memory operands
1135822847 M * Bertl but, instead of changing the internal state (except for the PC), they output the values to a special channel
1135822864 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net
1135822866 M * Bertl (kind of debug output channel of qemu)
1135822915 M * Bertl I've investigated that there are some approaches which do similar, but in a very complicated and intrusive way (like the e9 port hack from bochs)
1135822934 M * Doener hmm... no, i don't think that fits into my schedule... didn't even have a look at the qemu source yet
1135822971 M * Bertl okay, well, it was worth a try, basically the research work would require finding the proper instructions (so not really qemu related)
1135823017 M * Doener "finding the proper instructions"? like searching for unused opcodes?
1135823029 M * Bertl ideally the instructions would be 'nops' or if not possible 'illegal' ones (which would be used for this purpose)
1135823067 M * Bertl yep, that's it, but we'd need some for all archs ...
1135823165 M * Doener that sounds even harder to me ;)
1135823190 M * Bertl yeah, well, no problem, I will do it sooner or later :)
1135823309 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-46-211.bulldogdsl.com
1135823317 M * Bertl wb jayeola!
1135823321 M * jayeola ty
1135823403 M * jayeola looking at the /etc/yum.conf and /etc/yum.repos.d
1135823516 M * jayeola i think that the best (or maybe simplest) way to avoid my patched yum being pdated would be to add the line `exclude=yum` somewhere....
1135823549 M * Bertl could work ... as I said, I'm no yum expert ...
1135825270 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving
1135828265 Q * mcp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135828627 A * Hollow yawns
1135829096 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de
1135829099 M * cemil hi there
1135829109 M * cemil bibo:/tmp/util-vserver-0.30.209# vserver irc2 start
1135829109 M * cemil mount: none already mounted or . busy
1135829109 M * cemil /usr/local/etc/vservers/irc2/fstab:1:1: failed to mount fstab-entry
1135829109 M * cemil mount: none already mounted or . busy
1135829109 M * cemil /usr/local/etc/vservers/irc2/fstab:3:1: failed to mount fstab-entry
1135829111 M * cemil /bin/sh: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verdef record
1135829114 M * cemil /bin/sh: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verdef record
1135829116 M * cemil /bin/sh: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verdef record
1135829119 M * cemil any ideas? :)
1135829136 M * Bertl hey cemil!
1135829157 M * Bertl maybe the guest is empty?
1135829264 M * cemil no :/
1135829267 M * cemil hi bertl btw :)
1135829354 M * Bertl okay, then please upload the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' to some pastebin service (e.g. pastebin.com)
1135829391 M * cemil http://pastebin.com/482480
1135829440 M * Bertl okay, looks good so far ... what does your /usr/local/etc/vservers/irc2/fstab file contain?
1135829878 M * cemil none    /proc           proc    defaults                0 0
1135829878 M * cemil none    /tmp            tmpfs   size=16m,mode=1777      0 0
1135829878 M * cemil none    /dev/pts        devpts  gid=5,mode=620          0 0
1135829967 M * Bertl okay, looks good too, let's give the testme.sh a run
1135829988 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh
1135829997 M * Bertl (please upload again to pastebin)
1135830043 M * cemil everything suceeded
1135830069 M * Bertl okay, then I only need the magic line #4
1135830079 M * Bertl and #5
1135830217 M * cemil Linux 2.6.12.4-vs2.0 i686/0.30.209/0.30.209 [Ea] (0)
1135830217 M * cemil VCI:  0002:0001 273 03000016
1135830253 M * Bertl well, looks fine too .. what distro is the host?
1135830306 M * cemil debian sarge
1135830353 M * Bertl does sarge use tls libs? what distro does the guest use?
1135830391 M * cemil sarge
1135830417 M * Bertl did you update the kernel and tools recently?
1135830477 M * cemil yes
1135830487 M * Bertl and since then it doesn't work anymore?
1135830488 M * cemil Linux bibo 2.6.12.4-vs2.0 #3 SMP Wed Dec 28 21:35:42 CET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
1135830489 M * cemil yes
1135830497 M * cemil but i used 2.4.29 bevore
1135830499 M * cemil before
1135830499 M * Bertl okay, then I have a good idea what happened
1135830514 M * Bertl the sarge tools are very broken (the older ones)
1135830528 M * cemil i use compiled myself tools
1135830537 M * Bertl they probably misconfigured a lot of things regarding dir permissions and such, let's check them
1135830563 M * cemil how? :)
1135830564 M * Bertl ls -lad /vservers{,irc2}
1135830574 M * Bertl showattr -d /vservers{,irc2}
1135830583 M * cemil btw
1135830587 M * cemil lets work with "irc" not irc2
1135830590 M * cemil irc2 is just an copy
1135830603 M * Bertl okay, then do the same with 'irc'
1135830606 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc# ls -lad /vservers/{,irc}
1135830606 M * cemil d---------   5 root root 4096 Dec 29 05:25 /vservers/
1135830606 M * cemil drwxr-xr-x  20 root root 4096 Mar 11  2005 /vservers/irc
1135830669 M * Bertl and the showattr?
1135830691 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc# showattr -d /vservers/{,irc}
1135830691 M * cemil ---bui- /vservers/
1135830691 M * cemil ---bui- /vservers/irc
1135830697 M * cemil i didnt read it - sorry :)
1135830701 M * Bertl almost expected that ...
1135830703 M * Bertl okay, so let's do 'chmod a+rx /vservers'
1135830720 M * Bertl and 'setattr --barrier /vservers/irc/..
1135830730 M * Bertl (the .. is literal)
1135830737 M * cemil donedone
1135830748 M * cemil now:
1135830749 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc# vserver irc start
1135830749 M * cemil vcontext: chroot(): Permission denied
1135830806 M * Bertl what does 'ls -ld /' show?
1135830830 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc# ls -ld /
1135830830 M * cemil drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 4096 Jun 23  2005 /
1135830848 M * Bertl okay, let's try '(cd /vservers/irc; chroot .)'
1135830852 M * Bertl does that work=
1135830853 M * Bertl ?
1135830881 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc# '(cd /vservers/irc; chroot .)'
1135830881 M * cemil -bash: (cd /vservers/irc; chroot .): No such file or directory
1135830881 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc#
1135830920 M * Bertl interesting ..
1135830950 M * Bertl okay, let's try '(cd /vservers/irc; chroot . /bin/sh )'
1135830961 M * Bertl I assume it will fail too
1135830965 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc# '(cd /vservers/irc; chroot . /bin/sh )'
1135830965 M * cemil -bash: (cd /vservers/irc; chroot . /bin/sh ): No such file or directory
1135830978 M * Bertl 'ls -la /vservers/irc/bin/sh'
1135830988 J * balbir ~balbir@59.92.147.69
1135830991 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc#  'ls -la /vservers/irc/bin/sh'
1135830991 M * cemil -bash: ls -la /vservers/irc/bin/sh: No such file or directory
1135831005 M * Bertl soo .. you are sure that the guest is populated?
1135831040 M * cemil poluated in german? :)
1135831043 M * cemil one sekunde
1135831044 M * cemil aeh
1135831045 M * cemil second
1135831052 M * Bertl that there are actually files there
1135831076 M * Bertl I'd assume /bin/sh should be in every guest, even debian sarge :)
1135831100 M * cemil but bin/sh exists :)
1135831113 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc# ls -la bin/sh
1135831113 M * cemil lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 Mar 30  2005 bin/sh -> bash
1135831140 M * Bertl so why doesn't /vservers/irc/bin/sh exist then?
1135831156 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc/bin# ls  -la /vservers/irc/bin/sh
1135831156 M * cemil lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4 Mar 30  2005 /vservers/irc/bin/sh -> bash
1135831164 M * cemil also exist
1135831182 M * Bertl what was the problem before?
1135831197 M * cemil some problem with glibc afaik
1135831200 M * cemil but now it is:
1135831202 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc/bin# vserver irc start
1135831202 M * cemil vcontext: chroot(): Permission denied
1135831205 M * Bertl no, I mean:
1135831208 M * Bertl 05:36 < cemil> -bash: ls -la /vservers/irc/bin/sh: No such file or directory
1135831215 M * Bertl but now it exists?
1135831219 M * cemil maybe because of my "''"
1135831221 M * cemil ?
1135831226 M * Bertl okay
1135831250 M * Bertl could you retry the chroot line without the ''
1135831259 M * cemil of course :)
1135831271 M * Bertl (when I use '' I'm just delimiting command sequences)
1135831297 M * cemil bibo:/vservers/irc/bin# (cd /vservers/irc; chroot . /bin/sh )
1135831297 M * cemil /bin/sh: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verdef record
1135831297 M * cemil /bin/sh: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verdef record
1135831297 M * cemil /bin/sh: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verdef record
1135831297 M * cemil /bin/sh: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verdef record
1135831305 M * cemil oh - next time i use pastebin
1135831316 M * Bertl a few lines are okay
1135831320 M * cemil /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: unsupported version 0 of Verneed record
1135831340 M * Bertl well, looks to me like your guest has some libc issues
1135831358 M * cemil but afaik it worked before :)
1135831364 M * cemil hmm
1135831372 M * cemil but - i dont know how long it was down
1135831376 M * Bertl could be, the older kernel announced a different interface
1135831378 M * cemil and i am not admin
1135831396 M * Bertl you could try to 'fake' a 2.4 kernel by changing the entries in uts
1135831427 M * cemil how?
1135831429 M * cemil where? :)
1135831431 M * Bertl you have to check the flowerpage for the entry and try that, but to me the tls lib is just broken ...
1135831441 M * cemil i reinstall the vserver
1135831444 M * cemil its not dramatic...
1135831449 M * Bertl that's another option ...
1135831456 M * cemil its not my box
1135831458 M * cemil so not my work :)
1135831461 M * Bertl anyway, I'm off to bed again ... have fun!
1135831465 M * cemil thanks
1135831466 M * cemil but
1135831469 M * cemil hold on
1135831472 M * cemil are you at 22c3?
1135831476 M * Bertl nope
1135831480 M * cemil :/
1135831491 M * cemil we have had an beer :)
1135831499 M * Bertl another time ...
1135831502 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1135831502 M * cemil "could have" i meant :)
1135831505 M * cemil cu
1135832855 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-4-35.netcologne.de
1135832961 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135832965 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135834019 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection
1135834200 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1135835524 M * jayeola hey chaps... it's *working*
1135835541 M * jayeola mucho mucho thanks to everybody
1135836060 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-209-30-159-52.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net
1135836222 Q * jayeola Quit: ;)
1135839918 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.56
1135840029 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135840029 N * menomc mnemoc
1135843120 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
1135844252 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1135844683 N * meebey_ meebey
1135844842 J * balbir ~balbir@59.92.150.112
1135845430 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio169.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1135845446 M * Milf Good morning
1135845600 J * yang yang@sparc64.be
1135845906 M * yang how can i add multiple IPs to the vserver?*
1135846013 M * Milf Create multiple interface-directories in /usr/local/etc/vservers/<vservername>/interfaces
1135846024 M * Milf (I hope I got the dir right)
1135847186 J * tso ~tso@rev.193.226.232.31.euroweb.hu
1135847190 M * tso hi
1135847369 M * Milf yang: Did that work?
1135847765 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-12-171.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1135848121 M * yang Milf: i have to copy/paste each section in interfaces
1135848502 M * Milf Well it seems that only creating the dir, and the two files 'dev' and 'ip' with their correct input might be enough
1135850167 M * yang Milf: i thought maybe there is an easier solution...I want to attach 50 IPs to it
1135850525 M * meandtheshell yang: write a bash script before you get mad of copy paste actions :-)
1135850606 M * meandtheshell maybe such a script already exists? ask google ... 
1135850740 N * blackfire^away blackfire
1135850745 M * FaUl yang: for e in `seq 0 49`; do mkdir $i && pushd $i && echo eth0 >dev && echo 192.168.1.$i >ip && popd;done
1135850753 M * blackfire hi all
1135850820 M * blackfire anybody can help me with quotas on vservers?
1135850911 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135851065 M * yang FaUl: that is one hell of a script :)
1135851088 M * FaUl yang: should of course be more flexible
1135851105 M * yang i need for IPs from 86.110.64.150-200
1135851127 M * yang 86.110.64.150 allready belongs to vserver1
1135851152 M * FaUl the trouble you'll get into if you assign 50 adresses to one vserver is of course that per default the number of ips per vserver is limited to 12
1135851173 M * yang oh
1135851237 M * FaUl anyway:
1135851246 M * yang what kind of trouble?
1135851291 M * FaUl yang: for e in `seq 1 49`; do mkdir $i && pushd $i && echo eth0 >dev && echo 86.110.64.$(($i+150)) >ip && popd;done should do
1135851300 M * FaUl it'll simlpy not work i guess
1135851310 M * FaUl you have to change the maxip-stuff in the kernel
1135851364 M * yang i see
1135851432 M * FaUl yang: what should it do? massive-ssl-vhosts on apache? (just curious)
1135851875 M * yang no vhosts for irc, the client requires
1135851956 M * FaUl uhm :-)
1135851977 M * FaUl try one vserver per ip - your customers can't damage anything then :-)
1135852038 M * yang but he wants 50 vhosts
1135853074 M * FaUl yang: uhm, thats sick :-)
1135853099 M * FaUl yang: you are using linux-vserver on sparc64 as well?
1135853107 M * yang no, on i386
1135853167 M * FaUl hm, to bad, i hoped you can help me debugging why namespaces won't work on sparc64
1135853194 M * yang FaUl: do you want access on sparc64 ?
1135853201 M * FaUl my only sparc64-box is going to go on production-use real soon, and then i can't test to much
1135853235 M * yang my sparc64 box has no users now
1135853244 M * FaUl yang: if access means serial-console and beeing the only user and beeing allowed to build kernel and rebuild at my own will that would help 
1135853246 M * yang if you want to test some things you can
1135853252 M * FaUl which kind of sparc64 do you have?
1135853360 M * yang yang@maia:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
1135853360 M * yang cpu             : TI UltraSparc I   (SpitFire)
1135853360 M * yang fpu             : UltraSparc I integrated FPU
1135853360 M * yang promlib         : Version 3 Revision 25
1135853371 M * yang its ultra 1
1135853413 M * FaUl thx for that idea
1135853415 M * yang and i also have sparc 32 , sparcstation 4
1135853421 M * FaUl i've got an ultra1 as well
1135853426 M * FaUl but never tried to boot it :-)
1135853433 M * FaUl i think it's now time to try :-)
1135853446 M * FaUl thx :-)
1135853456 M * yang i thinked of putting vserver on one of my boxes anyway...
1135853457 A * FaUl stupid, has just forgotten that ultra1
1135853467 M * yang but i wanted to put it on parisc, but there is no port
1135853473 M * FaUl parisc should be
1135853483 M * FaUl bertl uses parisc as well IIRC
1135853491 M * yang util-vserver package is not available for hppa
1135853506 M * yang in debian i mean
1135853513 M * FaUl build it on your own
1135853638 M * yang ok so i shall add you on that ultra?
1135853660 M * FaUl i think it is not necessary
1135853668 M * FaUl i'll try to get my own ultra1 running
1135853673 M * yang ok
1135853693 M * FaUl i just forgot that box :-)
1135853762 M * yang so, the maximum working ips is 12
1135853773 M * yang and then i must make a new vserver
1135853789 M * FaUl yes i guess so
1135853821 M * yang does the vserver need restarting after modifying interfaces?
1135853876 M * FaUl yes
1135853924 M * FaUl that will be gone with that new networking, (as well as the 12-ips-per-vserver limit) but that's not finished yet
1135853942 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com
1135854023 M * FaUl its 16
1135854026 M * FaUl not 12
1135854041 M * yang ok
1135854069 M * FaUl you may increase that in include/linux/vserver/network.h 
1135854092 M * FaUl #define NB_IPV4ROOT 64 should do in your case
1135854175 M * yang ok great, i just have to recompile?
1135854292 M * FaUl guess so
1135854303 M * FaUl try to find out :-\)
1135854923 M * derjohn FaUl, yes, but take care to modify the util-vserver too (compile time change !!)
1135854956 M * FaUl yang: have you seen derjon :-)
1135854965 M * yang hmmm
1135854985 M * derjohn FaUl, "h" - it's my surname ...
1135855005 M * FaUl derjohn: sorry
1135855021 M * yang changing this value isn't enough
1135855055 M * yang i wouldn't know how to modify util-vserver
1135855097 M * derjohn yang, mom i'll look it up .. hold a min ....
1135855176 M * yang please
1135855296 M * derjohn yang, "kernel/network.h:#define NB_IPV4ROOT    64"  in  the util-vserver directory
1135855331 M * derjohn there is a local copy of the headers in it
1135855334 M * derjohn root@herbert:~/util-vserver-0.30.208# ls -l kernel/network.h
1135855335 M * derjohn -rw-r--r--  1 service service 2166 2005-11-30 13:56 kernel/network.h
1135855602 M * derjohn yang, FaUl , did it work? if yes, I add it to thw wiki :)
1135855712 M * derjohn hm, afk now. please tell me if it works for you, too. I added the info to: http://linux-vserver.org/some_hints_from_john ... and I dont want to fool other fellowers of the enlightened path of vservers :) 
1135855777 M * yang derjohn: i need to change two values in kernel config and in util-vserver direcotry
1135855828 M * derjohn yang, two ??? 
1135855840 M * derjohn yang, did u use the patch form 13th floor?
1135855856 M * yang i used kernel-vserver-patch
1135855868 M * yang for debian kernels
1135855886 M * yang and < FaUl> you may increase that in include/linux/vserver/network.h
1135855902 M * yang he ment for linux-kernel file?
1135855967 M * derjohn yang, there is a patch for changing the # of IPs.... (for kernel 2.6.9 though, it failes in one hunk on 2.6.14 ... but ... you can ignore the fail)
1135855992 M * derjohn btw: linux-vsrever.derjohn.de -> 2.6.14 debian for SID prepatched src and binary debs.
1135856000 M * derjohn it includes the 64 IP patch
1135856015 M * derjohn sry linux-vserver.derjohn.de 
1135856055 J * Yariv ~hakim@nesher3.haifa.il.ibm.com
1135856067 M * derjohn it's from 2.6.14 experimental. compiled on a current sid and testes on 2 machines ... vs 2.1.0 (devel)
1135856077 M * yang is this correct ? I just need to recompile now ?
1135856078 M * yang jason:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/include/linux/vserver# grep -r "IPV4ROOT" network.h
1135856082 M * yang #define NB_IPV4ROOT     64
1135856187 M * yang i cannot find root@herbert:~/util-vserver-0.30.208# ls -l kernel/network.h
1135856198 M * yang it comes precompiled in debian package
1135856215 M * yang so there is no kernel/network.h file
1135856223 P * Yariv 
1135856227 M * derjohn no, i dont provide that - it's not a .deb (I compile it locally ... maybe it will make a .deb later)
1135856257 M * tso derjohn: did you work on porting to 2.6.15-rc kernels?
1135856274 M * tso or do you - sry that was a mistake
1135856316 M * yang derjohn: so having it changed in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/include/linux/vserver/network.h is enough?
1135856360 M * derjohn tso, nope, I am a whiner only :) I only collect patches and build debs... btw, I did not see 2.6.15 in experimental yet, hav I missed it (I dont build from vanilla)
1135856366 M * derjohn yang, yes
1135856434 M * derjohn yang, in former times it wads defined on 2 places, but in 2.6.12+ at least only on one place
1135856524 M * tso derjohn oh thanks, i ask everyone for it ;-)
1135856569 M * derjohn tso, hehe .... dont the current patches apply to 2.6.15 ?
1135856578 M * tso not yet
1135856598 M * derjohn for -rc ?
1135856616 M * tso thereis some hunk failed, and a lot of changes in the mainline kernel's ptrace for example
1135856629 M * tso yes for -rc6 and 7 too
1135856633 M * derjohn tso, OMG WTF :) 
1135856646 M * derjohn tso, out of my scope of knowledge
1135856709 M * derjohn tso, do you know what's about the recentl 'expolit' in 2.6.14 (+ ?)
1135856718 M * tso derjohn yes, for me too, but in 2.6.15-rc have some driver improvements for some cards, so i must start it
1135856747 M * derjohn tso, drivers? networking? would be cool, 'cause I route /BGP with linux and sk98limn
1135856769 M * tso derjohn for example marvel hostraid cards have poor performance with 2.6.14.x
1135856795 M * derjohn marvel != marvel/yukon ?
1135856821 J * Doener doener@i5387DD9F.versanet.de
1135856821 M * tso derjohn no, adaptec hostraid with marvell chip
1135856841 M * derjohn tso, adaptec 2410 SATA?
1135856843 M * tso it's a sata hw raid with 4-8 ports
1135856854 M * derjohn tso, it's shit shit anyway
1135856870 M * tso yes ml low-level series shipped with that
1135856891 M * derjohn tso, I sold ours on ebay after issues with adaptec support and compile-orgies
1135856920 M * tso derjohn with .15-rc kernel it's pretty good i must say
1135856943 M * derjohn tso, did you follow the openbsd therad about the card?
1135856961 M * derjohn I mena firmware issues etc... ?
1135856969 M * tso yes i read that
1135856978 M * derjohn But I am happy that it works for you ;)
1135857009 M * tso thx ;-)
1135857021 M * derjohn tso, I have eeben written complaints and answers from adaptec germany here ;)
1135857036 M * derjohn tso, I switched back to 3ware
1135857068 M * derjohn but besides that: I am off now .... *afk* bye tso, yang etc.
1135857080 M * tso derjohn what os did you try with this card?
1135857215 M * derjohn tso, qnx and atheos .... just kidding :) debian sid 6 month ago
1135857261 M * derjohn tso, even on wintel there were issues about firmware , of of sync raid , and poor performance
1135857282 M * derjohn tso,  but maybe adaptec found a workaround with software ... :)
1135857289 M * tso yes with mvsata module i have this too
1135857303 M * tso but with rc i did not have any problems
1135857313 M * derjohn tso, But now I am really gone ... i'll be back at night ... 
1135857319 M * derjohn tso, thx for the info !
1135857322 M * tso ok, thx for informations
1135857326 M * tso bye
1135857339 M * derjohn tso, your're weclome ! (words stolen from bertl :))
1135857404 M * yang I get this error now: make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision custom01 --added-patches vserver --append-to-version +vserver --initrd binary-arch
1135857422 M * yang cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12+vserver
1135857422 M * yang cp: cannot stat `arch/i386/boot/bzImage': No such file or directory
1135857422 M * yang make[1]: *** [real_stamp_image] Error 1
1135857422 M * yang make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12'
1135857422 M * yang make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 2
1135857553 M * yang it worked before i did clean all
1135857831 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135858218 M * meandtheshell derjohn: have you ever tried ICP Vortex SCSI Raid Controllers? I've not but I heard just good mentions about them.
1135858242 M * meandtheshell BTW - they are not cheap.
1135858515 M * derjohn yang, http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/VARIOUS/util-vserver-0.30.196-net64.diff.bz2 and  http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/VARIOUS/delta-2.6.9-vs1.9.3-net64.diff
1135858545 M * derjohn meandtheshell, yes friend of mine use them and _highly_ recommend then (no, they are not high by drugs ;))
1135858552 M * derjohn s/then/them
1135858972 J * id23 ~id@p54A03ED9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1135858978 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1135858984 M * id23 aloha
1135859268 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving
1135860032 M * yang derjohn: uh, how do i apply those diffs?
1135860042 Q * marl_mobile Quit: Leaving
1135860273 Q * id23 Quit: web-of-trust
1135860882 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1135861617 Q * KrYpTo Quit: Verlassend
1135862458 J * shedi ~siggi@213-140-22-77.fastres.net
1135862653 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1135862659 M * Bertl morning folks! 
1135862706 M * Bertl derjohn, yang: why would you want the net64 patches?
1135863384 M * tso hi Bertl 
1135863388 M * ag- does someone know how to make xfree listen on a specific ip?
1135863418 M * tso Bertl: 'cos yang need to modify the kernel to allow more than 16 ip/vserver
1135863777 M * ag- ok, man X is stupidly clueless, but X -help does the trick :P
1135863788 M * Bertl hey tso! yes, but why?
1135863974 M * tso Bertl a client need to use 50 ip for one vserver, as yang said
1135863994 M * Bertl interesting ... 
1135864185 M * tso Bertl do you know that someone working on to port vserver to 2.6.15-rc series?
1135864211 M * Bertl yes 
1135864219 M * tso who? :)
1135864252 M * Bertl serge (hallyn) said he would have a try .. and I've completed the port a few days ago ...
1135864381 M * tso hm, did he drop a link to the patches? 
1135864605 M * Bertl no, haven't seen his patches yet
1135864666 M * tso i found something on sf.net/projects/linuxjail
1135864985 M * Bertl yes? what?
1135865019 M * Bertl (I mean except for the linuxjail patches)
1135865090 M * tso just the linuxjail patches no more
1135865145 M * Bertl okay, guess he would have announced any vserver patches and/or posted something here (if he already finished them)
1135865173 M * Bertl tso: do you plan to make a port?
1135865210 M * tso Bertl yes i already started
1135865244 M * tso but if he started too, maybe we can try to mix the the sources and share the work too
1135865283 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio169.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1135865299 M * Bertl well, as I said, there is a port, so if you want to save the work, no problem, but usually two (or more) independant ports are better to avoid errors ...
1135865313 M * Bertl welcome Milf!
1135865323 M * Milf Re Hirsch and Bock
1135865333 M * tso hi Milf 
1135865524 M * tso Bertl ok i working on it, now on 2.01 for 2.6.15-rc7
1135865557 J * dothebar1 titan@p50865F0A.dip.t-dialin.net
1135865575 M * Bertl tso: excellent, let me know when you ahve something to compare ...
1135865591 M * tso Bertl of course
1135865945 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1135865980 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135866156 Q * gdm Quit: Reconnecting
1135866156 J * gdm ~gdm@209.51.169.84
1135866721 M * Bertl wb gdm!
1135867907 M * Milf Hmmm, I've got my Suse 10.0 Guest in the Suse 10.0 host and wget runs fine.
1135867963 M * Bertl without options?
1135867978 M * Milf Yep, no options
1135867999 M * Bertl but within a vserver, yes?
1135868001 M * Milf Strace tells me that wget used socket(PF_INET,
1135868007 M * Milf Yes, within a vserver.
1135868039 M * Milf Hmmm, but didn't I try the 10.0 guest in my 8.2 host?
1135868080 M * Bertl that's very strange ... could it be that your kernel has ipv6 disabled here?
1135868092 M * Bertl and the other kernel has it enabled? (host side)
1135868151 M * Milf Hmmm, anything goes, I'll have a look at the .config for the kernel in the 10.0 host
1135868179 M * Milf (and good that I remember to copy it from that testserver)
1135868246 J * bubulak ~bubulak@cicka.wnet.sk
1135868266 M * Bertl Milf: because that's the only thing I can imagine ... that wget 'asks' for ipv6 support, and if it is there (because suse decided to compile it this way) it doesn't even fall back to ipv4 (without options)
1135868271 M * Bertl welcome bubulak!
1135868291 M * bubulak hi
1135868295 M * Milf My other Hosts positively don't habe IPv6 compiled in.
1135868353 M * bubulak have anybody slackware in vserver whit a flower style config ? 
1135868381 M * Bertl bubulak: do you encounter issues or just want to know?
1135868386 M * Milf 'flower style config' that's a good one :)
1135868429 M * bubulak hmm ... its some like that ... the vserver never know how propertly work init system in slackware
1135868469 M * bubulak not corretly stop the virtual machine ... 30seconds SIG KILL 
1135868550 M * bubulak but in old config style work correct
1135868818 M * bubulak sorry but my english its bad :)
1135868821 M * Bertl hmm, doesn't slackware use init?
1135868850 M * bubulak yes ... sysv init
1135868876 M * Bertl soo ... the issues there should not be too hard to fix ...
1135868887 M * bubulak i just do echo "plain" /etc/vserver/$guest/init/style
1135868891 M * Bertl I assume you are using the sysv init style, yes?
1135868902 M * bubulak yes
1135868984 M * bubulak start works fine but stop not
1135869062 M * bubulak and i don't sea any output on start or stop
1135869139 M * Bertl hmm, you sure that you use sysv init? (not plain init)
1135869169 M * bubulak whit sysv in style server don't start
1135869174 M * bubulak only whit plain
1135869194 M * Bertl aha, why is that?
1135869210 M * bubulak i don't know :)
1135869298 M * bubulak just takes me error occured while executing the vserver startup sequence
1135869936 Q * _Angel_ Quit: (null)
1135871331 M * mnemoc moin!
1135871350 M * mnemoc Bertl: patches for \.15-rc.?
1135871386 M * Bertl hmm?
1135871403 M * mnemoc 2.6.15-rcsomething
1135871498 M * mnemoc i can't find them :(
1135871607 M * Milf Hmmm isn't tso currently working on them?
1135871691 M * mnemoc as alternative patches or to become official?
1135872038 M * Milf Dunno, I just overheard him and bertl talking about patches for 2.6.15-rc7
1135872047 M * Adrinael Hm, does anyone have a .deb for util-vserver 0.30.209, built for sarge?
1135872048 M * mnemoc :)
1135872407 M * Bertl mnemoc: not uploaded yet .)
1135872450 M * mnemoc Bertl: go go go :)
1135872462 M * tso Milf yes, i'm working on it, but serge finished a version as i heard
1135872958 M * Bertl hmm, where did you hear that?
1135873058 M * tso from Bertl ? ;-)
1135873102 M * mnemoc *g*
1135873295 Q * virtuoso Read error: Connection reset by peer
1135873301 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1135873302 M * Bertl tso: okay, let me clarify that once again
1135873325 M * Bertl - there is a port for 2.6.15 sitting on my machine (since a few days)
1135873340 M * Bertl - serge announced to do a port (around xmas)
1135873352 M * Bertl - I haven't heard from him since ...
1135873435 M * tso sry, then i misread what you wrote before
1135873454 Q * bubulak Quit: leaving
1135873472 M * mnemoc only master Bertl makes the good patches :)
1135873780 M * undefined Adrinael: what arch for util-vserver 0.30.209?
1135873856 M * meandtheshell hello folks - is there any howto or description around telling me howto best move a guest plus its content (=wiki) from a single CPU system to a SMP (2 way) system? looked around but didn't find something (which in fact means nothing :)
1135874141 M * Bertl undefined: should work for all linux archs
1135874156 M * Bertl meandtheshell: just move it :)
1135874293 M * undefined Bertl: the debian util-vserver packages are arch specific
1135874348 M * undefined i've created amd64 packages (for beecrypt and util-vserver)
1135874350 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1135874425 M * aba undefined: of course the packages are arch-specific - they contain c-code, which is compiled.
1135874570 M * undefined i currently only run vserver on amd64, but my modified source packages could be made available
1135874626 M * aba undefined: what are the differences to the official ones?
1135874636 M * aba util-vserver | 0.30.209-1 |      unstable | source, amd64
1135874687 M * undefined aba: let me look at my patch...
1135874716 M * aba undefined: if you have an patch, please submit it to the debian bug tracking system - one bug per issue please :)
1135874763 M * undefined i dropped the explicit version on the dietlibc-dev build-depend
1135874827 M * Roey hi
1135874835 M * aba undefined: ah, for the backport?
1135874840 M * Roey Bertl:  I get this from yaird when I try to dpkg -i a new linux kernel:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/Y2tap085.html
1135874868 M * undefined aba: yes, backport for sarge
1135874882 M * aba undefined: ah, ok. But that's the only change?
1135874892 M * Bertl Roey: that's nice, but as I do not know/use yaird nor debian?
1135874897 M * Roey oh
1135874907 A * aba doesn't know yaird
1135874909 M * undefined aba: yes, that's the only difference for the backport
1135874914 M * Roey Bertl:  you're helpful for other stuff, so I figured you may know this.
1135874916 M * Roey Anyone using yaird?
1135874919 M * aba undefined: hm, perhaps nobse might be interessted ...
1135874970 M * undefined aba: backports.org?
1135874980 M * aba undefined: yes.
1135875150 M * Bertl Roey: still working on the initrd which can handle lvm?
1135875160 M * Roey Bertl:  yes.
1135875162 M * Roey yes, yes.
1135875170 M * Roey because I've installed grub
1135875179 M * Bertl maybe have a talk with aba? maybe he knows how to tame debian?
1135875181 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135875182 M * Roey I just need to make that in initrd now that has 
1135875183 M * Roey aba:  hi
1135875194 J * Doener doener@i5387DA36.versanet.de
1135875227 M * aba Roey: sorry, I don't know yaird at all
1135875255 M * Roey ok
1135875274 M * Bertl well, IIRC, yaird was only Roey's straw after the normal lvm initrd stuff failed?
1135875313 M * aba I'm not really one of the kernel experts.
1135875315 M * Bertl aba: so if you know how to make an initrd for a given kernel (which can boot from LVM root) on debian, then that would probably help
1135875329 M * Roey well the kernel can boot.
1135875330 M * Roey look.
1135875333 M * Roey the problem is:
1135875337 M * Roey 1) needs  a ramdisk
1135875340 M * Roey (that's what yaird provides)
1135875340 M * aba Bertl: I can ask. But I don't use lvm root on any of my machines for obvious reasons :)
1135875350 M * Roey 2) needs to set / as xfs instead of ext3 in fstab.
1135875362 M * Roey right now fstab specifies a / of ext3, when in fact it is xfs.
1135875375 M * aba Roey: but you could change the fstab easily?
1135875442 M * Roey oh
1135875443 M * Roey er
1135875445 M * Roey haven't tried that
1135875446 M * Roey lemme try.
1135875660 M * Roey dah
1135875663 M * Roey something is majorly messing up.
1135876004 M * Milf <-- scared of a memory upgrade; the last one lasted until 2 a.m.
1135876067 J * jeeves ~Bob@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
1135876139 M * Bertl welcome jeeves!
1135876234 M * yang How do I apply net64 diffs...I changes the value to IPV4ROOT = 64 in kernel config , but now it wont build
1135876318 M * jeeves hey there
1135876358 M * Bertl yang: well, it's not _that_ easy ... you ahve to change the tools too
1135877100 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-4-140.netcologne.de
1135877196 Q * Kara_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135877210 Q * Smutje_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135877308 M * Roey derjohn:  hi
1135877310 M * Roey derjohn:  are you here?
1135877312 M * Adrinael undefined, i386, a late answer
1135878138 M * Bertl derjohn: working from the internet-cafe? :)
1135878714 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 !
1135878967 M * Roey derjohn:  hi
1135879282 M * Milf See you all tomorrow
1135879314 M * Bertl cya!
1135879373 Q * meandtheshell Ping timeout: 481 seconds
1135879427 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1135880521 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-36-240.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1135881878 M * yang Bertl: with net64 the maximum IPs are 64 then?
1135882304 M * yang I wonder how could i then measure traffic on vserver interface, if its not listed as eth0 on main server...?
1135882340 M * FaUl *gaehn*
1135882426 M * Bertl yang: yep
1135882830 M * yang I got these 2 files now delta-2.6.9-vs1.9.3-net64.diff  util-vserver-0.30.196-net64.diff , but how do i apply them on the kernel?
1135883614 M * Bertl usually with the 'patch' tool
1135883742 M * Roey herb
1135883745 M * Roey where are you from?
1135883916 M * Bertl Austria, Europe 
1135884096 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-46-211.bulldogdsl.com
1135884268 M * jayeola hello chaps
1135884375 M * Roey arg
1135884379 M * Roey Bertl:  cool.
1135884405 M * Roey damnit GRUB *requires* initrd.
1135884406 M * Roey dmanit.
1135884663 M * harry Bertl: is there a lot of difference in 2.6.15?
1135884685 A * harry doesn't feel like completely redoing all the work in patching the grsec + vserver again
1135884687 M * derjohn Bertl, nice cafe, heh?
1135884697 M * derjohn Roey, i am back nowe.
1135884786 M * Roey derjohn:  hey hey!!!!!
1135884793 M * Roey derjohn:  listen.. I *need* help booting;
1135884800 M * Roey I've tried different approaches and none work.
1135884815 M * Roey derjohn:  and since I heard you maintain yaird, I thought you would know
1135884820 M * Roey derjohn:  make my ship go?
1135884829 M * derjohn Roey, questions makrd as 'urgent' will go in queue for a long time :) 
1135884832 M * derjohn Roey, 
1135884834 M * Bertl harry: well, yes .. in some areas ...
1135884842 M * derjohn Roey, ok, whats the problem?
1135884887 M * derjohn Roey, was it random that you found me in #ispman?
1135884888 M * Roey http://rafb.net/paste/results/UffeKa57.html
1135884899 M * Roey derjohn:  I looked for you specifically
1135884903 M * Roey derjohn:  ok, here's the issue:
1135884925 M * Roey derjohn:  I originally had this problem as you can see in the paste.
1135884928 M * derjohn ok, you cannot boot the host ?
1135884947 M * Roey my kernel has drivers for XFS, megaraid, LVM2 and Ext3 built-in
1135884947 M * derjohn what is you boot device? /dev/md0 ? /dev/hdX ?
1135884956 M * Roey my /boot is on /dev/sda3.  It is native Ext3.
1135884960 M * derjohn k
1135884973 M * Roey my / is on /dev/sda5, which is an LVM2 volume.  It is XFS.
1135884976 M * derjohn hm /boot as extra partition to be sure?
1135884981 M * Roey I did that.
1135884985 M * Roey I am trying to set this up with GRUB.
1135884992 M * jayeola Bertl: thanks to you and Cru CentOS + yum(patch) + vservers== :0)
1135885004 M * Roey So I specified root="main/host" to the kernel
1135885024 M * Roey derjohn:  (the volume group is 'main'; the logical volume is 'host')
1135885040 M * Roey derjohn:  I tried this initially and it did not work.  So then I thoguht I may need an initrd.
1135885050 M * Roey derjohn:  and you suggested yaird
1135885056 M * Roey derjohn:  so I tried that.  Ran into problems with it:
1135885060 M * derjohn yes, I made good experience qith yaird
1135885061 M * harry haha... some "hacker"'s machine... 0wn3d!!!
1135885061 M * harry ;)
1135885069 M * Roey derjohn:  I had trouble generating the initrd with yaird.
1135885070 M * harry Bertl: in that case: damn ;)
1135885071 M * Roey it gave errors.
1135885076 M * Roey heya harry
1135885079 M * harry hey
1135885086 M * Roey http://rafb.net/paste/results/6fX6vi28.html
1135885088 M * harry does anyone know 192.168.1.1.is ?
1135885097 M * derjohn mkinit -i /boot/initrd.img.foo foo ?
1135885100 M * derjohn errors?
1135885104 M * Roey well
1135885106 M * Roey I gave up on initrd.
1135885110 M * Roey just now.
1135885110 M * derjohn :(
1135885118 M * Roey I want to try booting straight from a kernel that understands stuff
1135885121 M * Roey wihtout needing an initrd.
1135885137 M * Roey derjohn:  so I was screaming for help about an hour ago.
1135885138 M * derjohn ok, whats the error? the one in pastebin?
1135885147 M * Roey the error with the yaird I just pasted;
1135885155 M * derjohn Roey, sry, I said a was gone for work ;(
1135885175 M * Roey the error now is http://rafb.net/paste/results/UffeKa57.html
1135885179 M * Roey ahh
1135885187 M * harry feels good to 0wn someone :(
1135885197 M * harry especially if he's the one trying to hack you :)
1135885215 M * derjohn harry, new grrl?
1135885232 M * derjohn Roey, obvisously it cant mount root
1135885257 M * derjohn I would guess you dont have lvm stuff available or the fs driver is missing
1135885275 M * harry http://pastebin.com/483248
1135885292 M * harry haha
1135885325 M * derjohn harry, maybe check if you have one of this nodes: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/wiki/Gulliddos
1135885338 M * derjohn Roey, I would guess you dont have lvm stuff available or the fs driver is missing ?
1135885353 M * Roey LVM is compiled into the kernel.
1135885392 M * Roey derjohn:  lemme boot.....again..... to kanotix.
1135885397 M * Roey grrrr this is taking already two weeks.
1135885412 M * derjohn Roey, i may take until next year :)
1135885416 M * harry naah
1135885422 M * harry not me... 
1135885423 M * derjohn (but I hope we'll be faster!)
1135885430 M * harry i just dos sp.nl
1135885432 M * harry (maybe ;))
1135885466 M * derjohn harry, tne victim is a friend of mine, so we are eager to get a node in the fingers ...
1135885592 M * derjohn Q: Did anyone run a freeradius in a vserver?
1135885601 M * harry not me
1135885612 M * harry derjohn: do you want me to ddos you?
1135885616 A * harry is against ddos
1135885672 M * derjohn harry, let my think about it shortl..(10 ms).. no ;)
1135885682 M * harry hehe
1135885684 M * harry commoooooooon
1135885691 M * harry we only have a 16gb upload pipe hear
1135885694 M * Roey back
1135885697 M * derjohn ok, here we go. my ip is 127.0.0.1
1135885697 M * Roey ssystem booted.
1135885699 M * harry only 5 of us have gigabit interfaces
1135885711 M * harry and the switches are all gigabit
1135885721 M * harry also, we all have 54mbit wireless ;)
1135885726 M * harry we could generate traffic ;)
1135885756 M * derjohn harry, I recommend kernel's "pktgen" module.
1135885767 M * harry naaah...
1135885773 M * harry we're just gonna get someone blacklisted :)
1135885781 M * harry forget about it :)
1135885782 M * derjohn harry, I can really saturate the line cards datarate ;) (at least, nearly)
1135885793 M * harry :)
1135885806 M * derjohn Roey, bootibooti ?
1135885883 M * Adrinael Whew, 0.30.209 compiled and debbed
1135885962 M * derjohn Adrinael, own .deb ?
1135885979 M * Adrinael Yeah, compiled for sarge
1135886012 M * derjohn Adrinael, freshly debbed or drop-in to micah/ola debs ?
1135886051 M * Adrinael The unstable/etch package's sources, with versioned build-deb on dietlibc-dev lowered as per hint gotten here
1135886054 M * Roey ok
1135886063 M * Roey derjohn:  I booted to kanotix for the time being.
1135886070 M * dothebar1 namt derjohn 
1135886083 M * Roey I saw that I didn't have the megaraid_box and megaraid_mm drivers... only 'megaraid' which I tyhink belongs to the old megaraid devices.... i.e. not perc4/si
1135886090 M * Roey so I htink that coudl be part of the problem
1135886102 M * Roey as it didn't say anytning about finding the scsi stuff earlier when it tried to boot.
1135886123 M * derjohn Roey, modprobe --show-deps megaraid will reval that probably
1135886147 M * derjohn Roey, sound like, it couldn't find the _device_ 
1135886163 M * derjohn dothebar1, ehlo! ... new nick? 
1135886238 M * dothebar1 nope, just didn't configure keepnik for oftc yet.
1135886243 M * derjohn dothebar1, you have to take here because harry is ddos'ing all people here with some ccc-infrastruce or so :)
1135886276 M * dothebar1 hm? i'm at my brothers place atm.
1135886281 M * dothebar1 'virtually'
1135886298 M * dothebar1 physically i'm in berlin on the congress...
1135886306 M * dothebar1 my wrt didn't reconnect...
1135886315 M * derjohn dothebar1, ack. did you meet cemil/kara/whoever ?
1135886318 M * dothebar1 so i can't go home...
1135886346 M * derjohn dothebar1, like E.T.
1135886349 M * dothebar1 nope, tried to meet with kara, didn't manage to meet on monday, were in the same room, but mised each other...
1135886362 M * dothebar1 Enemy Teritory?
1135886366 M * derjohn dothebar1, *lol*
1135886386 M * derjohn dothebar1, nope the 20-year-old-movie :)
1135886391 M * dothebar1 well actually it was a room with about a hundred people in it, and i was a bit late.
1135886411 A * dothebar1 hause telefoniere.
1135886437 M * derjohn dothebar1, badluck. yes, dothebar1 nachhause sippen :)
1135886483 M * dothebar1 ssh would fit, but the damn thing...
1135886518 M * dothebar1 i'll actually see whats happened on 3rd if i return there...
1135886624 M * derjohn dothebar1, ask s.o. in the house to pull out the main fuse and put it back in ;)
1135886660 M * Roey derjohn:  ok... so I'm afixin' it now.
1135886660 M * dothebar1 :] thats not that friendly... the neighbour who has a key who could reset the wrt is in berlin too ;-)
1135886682 M * dothebar1 my vserver has the first load: www.opensourcetv.de
1135886685 M * derjohn Adrinael, "dietlibc-dev lowered". you mean .209 doesnt compile on newer=
1135886720 M * Adrinael I mean that the unstable package has a strict dependency on unstable's dietlibc
1135886729 M * derjohn Roey, you complile it new monilithically?
1135886729 M * Adrinael Changed that to sarge's version and it compiles
1135886770 M * derjohn Adrinael, ah, k. so you have a version able to run on sarge etch and sid?
1135886782 M * Adrinael Yes.
1135886805 M * Adrinael I have i386, undefined has amd64 debs
1135886806 M * derjohn Adrinael, could you provice src for me? I always wanted to build a deb with 64-ip-in-guest patch
1135886895 M * Adrinael The source package is in http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/util-vserver
1135886902 M * Adrinael Down there
1135886911 M * derjohn dothebar1, Data Retention Circumvention? hot stuff .. i am already thinking about howto extend pmacct for DR requirements.
1135886944 M * Roey derjohn:  that is what I am doing now.
1135886947 J * bubulak ~bubulak@cicka.wnet.sk
1135886958 M * derjohn Adrinael, eh, this is the deb src. I could apt-get source util-vservrer ... 
1135886962 M * Roey derjohn:  because I can't stand this anymore.... and ya know what? I'm sick of initrds.
1135886965 M * Roey =)
1135886978 M * Adrinael derjohn, yeah, and I changed only the Build-Depends line on debian/control
1135886986 M * dothebar1 hm?
1135887009 M * derjohn Adrinael, hm, and you just dropped in the -209 via tar xvzf ?
1135887012 M * Adrinael (Also beecrypt needs to be backported, but that's trivial)
1135887032 M * Adrinael derjohn, no, I just downloaded the source package, changed debian/control and dpkg-buildpackage'd
1135887042 M * derjohn dothebar1, EU Data Retention Directive ... as an ISP am a direct victim of this bullshit directive
1135887067 M * derjohn Adrinael, ahhhhhhhhhh ... 209 is in the tree? cool, I didnt notice !
1135887075 M * Adrinael It's in etch and sid
1135887110 M * derjohn Roey, I think the main prob was that you didnt put the modules in the initrd
1135887120 M * Roey derjohn:  well... ya nkow what...
1135887126 M * derjohn /etc/mkinitrd/modules -> there ones are packed in .
1135887128 M * Roey derjohn:  that's what I was looking for you for help with :)
1135887128 M * derjohn Roey, yes
1135887138 M * Roey derjohn:  does yaird look at /etc/mkinitrd  at all?
1135887142 M * Roey because I was looking at /etc/yaird/
1135887144 M * Roey or rather
1135887146 M * Roey /etc/yaird/conf
1135887148 M * derjohn Roey, good quesion ...
1135887163 M * Roey also, the initrd probably has its own etc/fstab.
1135887166 M * derjohn Roey, I dunno . yaird is too new ... didnt test 
1135887172 M * Roey which would need to be changed, too.
1135887173 M * Roey ok.
1135887185 M * Roey derjohn:  so you don't htink initrd's are really needed for server situations
1135887185 M * Roey ?
1135887190 M * derjohn Roey, you can unpack an initrd and mount it to a loop fs 
1135887206 M * Roey derjohn:  like, what's considered the best practices for servers? making your own kernels, or using Debian stock??
1135887216 M * derjohn Roey, i did it with initrd-tools 
1135887218 M * Roey derjohn:  (adn tehn can you /write/ to an inintrd which has been mounted as a loop fs)
1135887246 M * derjohn Roey, and changed to yaird very recently (unitl now all worked for me ... even with raid)
1135887256 M * derjohn Roey, yes
1135887258 M * Roey ok
1135887262 M * Roey well maybe after this works
1135887268 M * Roey and if it turns out that xen needs an intird.
1135887271 M * Roey then i will reconsider
1135887275 M * Roey until then.. I couldnt' care anymore :) :)
1135887282 M * Roey let's see if the monolithic approach works........
1135887282 M * derjohn Roey, but every kernel install will create a new initrd .. so be warned :)
1135887290 M * Roey right.
1135887353 M * derjohn Roey, I can understand .... is it a production machine?
1135887361 M * Roey yes
1135887362 M * Roey yes it is.
1135887368 M * Roey it's a dns/mail/web/etc. server.
1135887374 M * Roey I just want to get this thing DONE alreayd.
1135887380 M * Roey but securely and with a good foundatin.
1135887415 M * derjohn Roey, so now the boxen is offline? users crying?
1135887425 M * Roey well this is in the lab
1135887435 M * Roey we have the current servers working
1135887436 M * Roey they are old.
1135887441 M * Roey we are replacing them with one server
1135887442 M * derjohn Roey, ah, ok. so its not as horrible as I thought
1135887446 M * Roey nahh
1135887447 M * Roey well
1135887448 M * Roey yeah
1135887452 M * Roey i've been working on this for lieka month.
1135887508 M * derjohn Roey, whooh, but not only for vs? The biggest part was the webhosting setup i assume?
1135887522 M * Roey that was easy.
1135887526 M * Roey I just transferred what we had
1135887530 M * Roey it's one small site really
1135887537 M * Roey but the hurdles were:
1135887542 M * Roey 1) getting my own kernel to boot.
1135887558 M * Roey 2) deciding between xen and vserver (took half a month or more actually)
1135887563 M * Roey 3) getting vserver to work (quite fast)
1135887569 M * Roey 4) getting the dns/mail/web stuff to work
1135887581 M * Roey 5) now this.  Getting LVM + XFS + Grub playing nicely.
1135887592 M * derjohn Roey, you run a bind9 in a guest?
1135887602 M * Roey well yes
1135887603 M * Roey howcome?
1135887621 M * Roey derjohn:  btw I've heard that guests don't need tobe chrooted.
1135887623 M * derjohn Roey, just wanted to hint you to the "problematic programs" :)
1135887624 M * Roey is that correct?
1135887632 M * Roey also, why doesn't anyone know of yaird
1135887636 M * Roey it seems much more flexible than mkinitrd.
1135887673 M * derjohn Roey, yaird appered in debian sid very recently. it assume it replaces mkinited in the future.
1135887674 M * Adrinael I hate initrds, but they sure give a nice solution to the ages-old bootstrapping problem of finding the root disk's device.
1135887709 M * derjohn Adrinael, but first of all they make it posible to have only ONE kernel for all 100+ webhosts ;)
1135887736 M * Roey ah
1135887742 M * Roey er
1135887743 M * Roey quesiton
1135887749 M * Roey hwo do I apt-get update all the different guests??
1135887775 M * derjohn Roey, differnet .. you mean all "sarge guests on one machine" ?
1135887809 M * Roey yes.
1135887811 M * Roey well in this case etch.
1135887812 M * derjohn Roey, or fedora vs. debian vs. ....
1135887817 M * Roey debian etch.
1135887822 M * Adrinael for a in /var/lib/*; do vserver $a apt-get update; done    =)
1135887824 M * derjohn Roey, well, depends on the conecpt
1135887825 M * Adrinael Oops
1135887830 M * Adrinael /var/lib/vservers/*
1135887832 M * Roey Adrinael:  ?
1135887834 M * Roey oh
1135887834 M * Roey ok
1135887848 M * Adrinael And eh, still a bug there
1135887855 A * Adrinael retreats in shame
1135887855 M * Roey Adrinael:  btw... apt-get asks buncha questions.
1135887863 M * Adrinael Not update
1135887865 M * Adrinael Upgrade might
1135887866 M * Roey Adrinael:  lucky for me each guest is < 200 MB.
1135887876 M * Roey Adrinael:  ok, I did mean upgrade, btw.
1135887877 M * Roey actually
1135887880 M * Roey dist-upgrade.
1135887888 M * derjohn Roey, you may set debconf prio to "never ask just do"
1135887914 M * Adrinael (The above bug is fixed with `basename $a`
1135887915 M * Adrinael )
1135887917 M * derjohn Roey, but ... you may have a look at unification (and later on 'hasify')
1135887933 M * Roey ok
1135887937 M * Roey let me do rebootnow.
1135887940 M * Roey kernel is done.
1135887942 M * Roey unification?
1135887943 M * derjohn Adrinael, does this work or is it only theory?
1135887945 M * Roey oh.... right right.
1135887950 M * Roey derjohn:  Iheard it's not yet 100%.
1135887954 M * tso derjohn well, it maybe intresting on dist-upgrade...
1135887971 M * Adrinael derjohn, it should work
1135887989 M * Adrinael But only for update, still. Upgrading is another issue which I won't dare tackle.
1135888006 M * derjohn tso, why not on upgarde ? er .. you are referring on hashify or dedconf prio?
1135888042 M * Adrinael Upgrading might need input, and I am scared of automatic upgrades.
1135888057 M * Adrinael Yes, needing input is a bug, but some packages do have such bugs.
1135888098 M * tso derjohn i mean, that maybe the binaries upgraded, but config files not, or modified
1135888172 M * derjohn tso, hm, well, with sid I agree ... with sarge this problem shouldnt appear since stable?
1135888181 M * tso and after that the new binaries may not run perfectly
1135888191 M * tso derjohn well Roey said etch...
1135888290 M * tso derjohn but with sarge, there is also some post-inst scripts that change config files, like sendmail's, but it was a half year ago, so may be fixed or something
1135888309 M * derjohn tso, yes, this could get problematic if the guest users make own configs. But I didnt see changeing og config files very often. I have many "handish" things om my system which are there for years. I remind postfix adding some line a year ago ... what else comes to your mind?
1135888340 M * Adrinael Now, to find out the syntax of vserver foo build...
1135888355 M * derjohn tso, *lol* in my case it was postfix .. but everything else is pretty much unchanged or I simply didnt recognize :)
1135888366 M * derjohn Adrinael, ? what ?
1135888380 M * Adrinael derjohn, what parameters does it take?
1135888398 M * Roey ok
1135888403 M * Roey derjohn:  ....
1135888410 M * Roey derjohn:  the freaking thing STILL doesn't accept it.
1135888414 M * Roey derjohn:  like... what am i missing????????????
1135888417 M * Roey jesus CHRIST!
1135888420 M * Roey my headis falling off.
1135888432 M * derjohn Adrinael, vserver foo build --force -m debootstrap --hostname foo.vservers.net-lab.net --netdev eth0 --interface <ip>/28 --context 42 -- -d sarge
1135888448 M * derjohn Roey, same error?
1135888469 M * derjohn Roey, did you check dependencies on the megaraid module?
1135888470 M * Roey yes.
1135888473 M * Roey same error.
1135888473 M * Roey :(
1135888523 M * tso did you have megaraid hw ? ;-)
1135888535 M * yang derjohn: you sent me 2 files net64.diff, what i must do with that?
1135888564 M * derjohn yang, there were the orig patches for util vserver and kernel 
1135888578 M * derjohn yang, but: whats the status of your kernel?
1135888587 M * derjohn yang, runs? ready?
1135888600 M * yang well, my kernel fails to compile after I added IPV4ROOT 64 to it
1135888605 M * derjohn tso, Roey has megaraid
1135888620 M * derjohn yang, would you mind to try my debian kernel?
1135888623 M * yang i dont know if this is the reason, but it exits very quickly after i start kpkg-make
1135888625 M * tso derjohn ok, i thought, but i must ask it ;)
1135888630 M * Roey tso:  yes, megaraid, how come?
1135888647 M * Roey derjohn:  lemme boot again to kanotix.  this has something that I don't, this kanotix cd kernel.
1135888649 M * tso Roey nothing, i just kidding...
1135888651 M * derjohn yang, make-kpkg
1135888668 M * derjohn yang, did you append a version/revision?
1135888678 M * Adrinael Hey, wow, there's vserver foo build --help
1135888684 M * yang derjohn: no, i dont know where i must add those diffs
1135888686 M * derjohn yang, maybe you must make-kpkg clean before
1135888746 M * derjohn yang, patch -p1 -i <patch> --dry-run  form within kernel dir=
1135888785 M * derjohn yang, there are two patches for kernel: the vs2.1.0 and the net64 
1135888794 M * derjohn yang, the other is for util-vserver
1135888818 M * derjohn yang, but explaining patch and kernel build is out of scope here
1135888819 M * yang START unpatching vserver patch (Context switching virtual private servers)
1135888819 M * yang Unreversed patch detected!  Ignore -R? [n] y
1135888819 M * yang Patch attempted to create file include/linux/vserver/network.h, which already exists.
1135888823 M * yang 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file include/linux/vserver/network.h.rej
1135888826 M * yang Patch /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/unpatch/vserver  failed.
1135888828 M * yang Hit return to Continue
1135888853 M * derjohn yang, so you already applied the patch
1135888857 M * Roey errr
1135888861 M * Roey lemme login to this thing...
1135888879 M * yang no i just changed network.h value to IPV4ROOT 64
1135888971 M * derjohn yang, you should 1.) patch vs210 2.) change  IPV4ROOT 64
1135888989 M * Roey http://rafb.net/paste/results/3F0NE155.html
1135888998 M * Roey derjohn:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/3F0NE155.html   <-- the modules that kanotix loads.
1135889009 M * derjohn Roey, include megaraid_mbox.ko megaraid_sas.ko megaraid_mm.ko to be sure
1135889039 M * Roey I did.
1135889047 M * Bertl okay, leaving now ... back later!
1135889057 M * Roey ciao bertl
1135889060 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1135889084 M * Roey derjohn:  btw it DOES see the scsi device on bootup
1135889108 M * derjohn Roey, then lvm or xfs is missing?
1135889127 M * derjohn Roey, is it scsi or sata?
1135889146 M * derjohn modprobe --show-depends megaraid_sas -> scsi_mod.ko
1135889161 M * derjohn same for  megaraid_mbox
1135889175 M * derjohn maybe kanotix included that as non-module?
1135889219 M * Roey derjohn:  none are missing
1135889220 M * Roey nothing is.
1135889222 M * yang derjohn: can i ask you in private, not to flood the channel
1135889223 M * Roey I did this finally:
1135889252 M * Roey diff  <(grep -i =y .config) <(zgrep -i =y /proc/config.gz)
1135889261 M * Roey I want to see what it did as 'y' and what I did as 'y'
1135889300 M * Roey > CONFIG_HUGETLBFS=y
1135889300 M * Roey > CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE=y
1135889306 M * Roey > is kanotix's kernel config
1135889328 M * derjohn HUGETLB ? do you have some terabyte disk space? :)
1135889338 M * Roey > CONFIG_I2C=y
1135889339 M * Roey no
1135889353 M * Roey I'm just listing anything that looks like the kanotix kernel has it but I may be missing it
1135889364 M * Roey because the kantoix kernel loads... but it uses grub and initrd.
1135889472 M * Roey http://rafb.net/paste/results/2M9JXW61.html
1135889476 M * Roey derjohn:  a partial listing here;
1135889505 M * Roey > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=y
1135889505 M * Roey > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR=y
1135889508 M * Roey is this needed?
1135889597 M * derjohn Roey, I dont know .. block device scsi "r" ? generic? hm. some more enlightened ... tso ?
1135889650 M * derjohn Roey, let's say it cant hirt
1135889651 M * derjohn hurt
1135889664 M * tso sr?
1135889666 M * tso hm
1135889680 M * Roey tso:  what's your name, btw?
1135889684 M * tso config_blk_dev_sd that's the scsi disk
1135889684 M * Roey there is a theodore tso
1135889688 M * Roey ok
1135889691 M * tso other's not needed
1135889693 M * Roey lemme see about that sfcsi disk.
1135889698 M * derjohn Roey, I asked myself the same Q :)
1135889711 M * Roey :)
1135889714 M * Roey tso:  I have this:
1135889716 M * Roey CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
1135889716 M * Roey CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
1135889716 M * Roey CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST=m
1135889716 M * Roey CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
1135889738 M * tso i think that's enough for it
1135889771 M * Roey ok
1135889771 M * Roey like
1135889772 M * tso st->tape,sr->?
1135889776 Q * derjohn Remote host closed the connection
1135889777 M * tso sd->disk
1135889778 M * Roey I honestly have no idea anymore then.
1135889779 M * Roey tso:  ok
1135889786 M * Roey tso:  I'm at the end fo my rope here.
1135889795 M * Roey tso:  this stupid kernel just doesn't wanna open /.
1135889798 M * Roey is it grub??
1135889870 M * Roey derj
1135889872 M * Roey oh, he left.
1135889907 M * tso Roey so you compile the kernel, with the patches, you have created the initrd or something, and adter vmlinuz loaded it can't find the rootfs?
1135889929 M * tso s\adter\\after
1135889973 M * tso your rootfs is xfs, and compiled statically as lvm and others
1135889984 M * tso is that right?
1135890023 M * yang Can someone tell me how i can patch this thing to have it working? http://pastebin.com/483340
1135890031 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
1135890050 M * Roey I don't have an initrd.
1135890053 M * Roey no initrd!
1135890054 M * Roey :(
1135890062 M * derjohn Roey, hrmpf .. sry ... killed my kicker ....
1135890062 M * Roey tso:  I thought I could do it without one.
1135890066 M * Roey derjohn:  ok
1135890069 M * Roey derjohn:  let's try this....
1135890075 M * Roey derjohn:  I'll give in... ok, fine. I'll do initrd
1135890077 M * Roey now that you are here
1135890078 M * Roey you can help me.
1135890079 M * Roey ok?
1135890086 M * Roey andI appreciate your help, btw.
1135890132 M * tso yang derjohn wrote you a line with patch -p1 -i filename ... did you try it?
1135890133 M * Roey derjohn:  I have problems when I do fakeroot make-kpkg 2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0 --initrd
1135890154 M * yang yes i have, as you can see there in my paste
1135890180 M * tso yang sry, i didn't watch it :)
1135890271 M * tso yang first, apply the vserver patch
1135890283 M * tso and after that this net64.diff
1135890291 M * Roey derjohn:  hi?
1135890296 M * derjohn yang, it's strange it behaves like this 
1135890303 M * derjohn Roey, i am here ... :)
1135890338 M * derjohn Roey, why initrd now? did tso realeal any secrets I missed?
1135890354 M * tso derjohn no, i just ask him for the details
1135890359 M * yang Well...What are my chances compileing with just that changed value IPV4ROOT  64
1135890375 M * derjohn tso, yes. yang got "can't find file to patch at input line 4"
1135890385 M * tso yang without vserver patch, nothing
1135890387 M * yang it wont help me much, since util-vserver wont be compiled for 64 then
1135890393 M * derjohn yang, 100%, you can change the value to whatever you like.
1135890414 M * derjohn yang, yes. but in util vserver it only one line too.
1135890427 M * derjohn grep -ril IPV4ROOT in util-vserver
1135890456 M * derjohn change ond compile
1135890459 M * derjohn apt-get build-dep util-vserver
1135890459 M * derjohn ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/ --enable-release \
1135890459 M * derjohn --mandir=/usr/local/share/man \
1135890459 M * derjohn --infodir=/usr/local/share/info \
1135890459 M * derjohn --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-dietlibc \
1135890461 M * derjohn --localstatedir=/var \
1135890464 M * derjohn --with-vrootdir=/var/lib/vservers
1135890466 M * derjohn make
1135890468 M * derjohn make install 
1135890484 M * yang ok, thanks
1135890493 M * Roey derjohn:  because I have no idea anymore.
1135890494 M * tso hm, no beer, strange...
1135890507 M * Roey derjohn:  - I compared the lsmod output... nothing interesting there.
1135890509 M * derjohn tso, nope single malt.
1135890513 M * Roey derjohn:  I compared the other stuff too.
1135890535 M * derjohn Roey, I dont have experience with lvm
1135890561 M * tso Roey your rootfs is on lvm, with xfs or...?
1135890575 M * derjohn Roey, I did md0 boot and added a /data/ partition (lvm), I never booted from it
1135890584 M * derjohn tso, yes
1135890605 M * Roey derjohn:  ok
1135890608 M * Roey tso:  lvm
1135890614 M * Roey tso:  my /boot is ext3 (native)
1135890617 M * Roey tso:  my / is xfs + lvm
1135890660 M * tso a second...
1135890707 M * Roey kkk
1135890826 M * tso if you say that everything is in the kernel statically, then did you try modify the fstab?
1135890827 M * Roey tso:  are you theodore tso?
1135890834 M * Roey tso:  eryes
1135890835 M * Roey I think
1135890836 M * Roey one sec.
1135890850 M * tso Roey no, just a nick, i'm from Hungary
1135890881 M * Roey er
1135890885 M * Roey tso:  ahh ok :)
1135890887 M * derjohn good that we solved that Q :)
1135890893 M * Roey tso:  er, I had the wrong filesystem in /etc/fstab for /
1135890898 M * Roey but I don't think it would have helped really.
1135890899 M * tso Roey the root /dev/sda or /dev/lvmdev
1135890903 M * tso ?
1135890908 M * Roey the root is /dev/main/host
1135890914 M * Roey where main is the lvm volume grou
1135890917 M * Roey and host is the logical volume.
1135890920 M * tso ok
1135891003 M * Roey brb
1135891047 M * tso once, i'm in situation like this, with some binary modules...
1135891301 M * tso Roey can you paste the full kernel config to the web?
1135891318 M * tso or i miss it earlier?
1135891372 M * derjohn tso,  I dont think so
1135891511 M * tso as i think, my trouble.. it was such a pitty thing, like sysfs, initrd or something was not in the kernel, but you checked all of them i think...
1135891512 J * Chris^ ~chris@nightcrawler.symour.hu
1135891517 M * Chris^ re
1135891529 M * tso re Chris^ 
1135891545 M * Vudumen Chris^:)
1135891556 M * Chris^ Vudumen:)
1135891825 M * Roey tso: back
1135891829 M * Roey tso:  ok
1135891834 M * Roey tso:  I will post my kernel config to the web, yes.
1135891835 M * Roey ok?
1135891845 M * tso Roey okay
1135891974 M * Roey tso:  one sec
1135892129 M * Roey http://rafb.net/paste/results/CcUm4J89.html
1135892188 M * Roey  tso: I'm so frustrated :)
1135892279 M * Roey brb
1135892281 M * Roey bathroom.
1135892284 M * derjohn yang, still there?
1135892631 M * Roey tso:  whatup
1135892632 M * Roey back
1135892634 M * Roey derjohn:  I'm here
1135892639 M * Roey I can take yang's place!!!!!!
1135892644 M * Roey blinkblinkblinkblink
1135892662 M * derjohn Roey, hm, you need a 64 Ip patched guest :) ?
1135892684 M * derjohn I build the util and debianized them with 64 ip
1135892701 M * Roey :)
1135892709 M * Roey oh that I don't know pfft :)
1135892715 M * Roey tso:  did you get that link?
1135892729 M * tso Roey yes, i see it
1135892734 M * derjohn Roey, are you 100% sure that you told grub to take the correct rootfs ?
1135892752 M * derjohn /boot/grub/grub/menu.lst
1135892826 M * tso yes, thats a good q, 'cos a the kernel config seems to be fine
1135892972 M * Roey derjohn:  oh?
1135892975 M * Roey derjohn:  here...
1135892990 M * Roey /dev/mapper/main-host /         ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
1135892994 M * tso Roey root for grub is ok?
1135893000 M * Roey tso:  no..
1135893005 M * Roey tso:  I don't boot / from grub
1135893009 M * Roey tso:  /boot yes 
1135893010 M * derjohn /dev/mapper is evms?
1135893010 M * Roey not /
1135893014 M * Roey er
1135893017 M * Roey I don't htikn it's evms?
1135893022 M * Roey usually /dev/evms is evms.
1135893027 M * Roey but I don't know where /mapper came from
1135893030 M * Roey er, /dev/mapper.
1135893034 M * Roey it seems like I can use either.
1135893034 M * derjohn er, yes, dm device mapper
1135893056 M * Roey it seems like I can use either /dev/mapper/main-host or /dev/main/host
1135893064 M * derjohn Roey, hm, but did you compile in dm-* kernem mod ?
1135893064 M * Roey it happens to be an ext3 filesystem.
1135893069 M * Roey yes, yes i did.
1135893083 M * Roey derjohn:   http://rafb.net/paste/results/CcUm4J89.html
1135893086 M * Roey derjohn:  my kernel compile.
1135893091 M * Roey kernel config rather.
1135893095 M * derjohn Roey, so much to read :)
1135893099 M * Roey right.
1135893113 Q * jeeves Quit: Leaving
1135893116 M * Roey heh
1135893121 M * derjohn I cant get rid of the feeling that those boot lines are correct.
1135893137 M * derjohn Roey, you know that you can change then in the grub shell before boot?
1135893161 M * tso Roey pls #grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
1135893166 M * derjohn so you may play around with it ... just press "e" then edit the foo and "b" for boot
1135893323 M * Roey tso:  ok one sec.
1135893346 M * Roey title           Debian GNU/Linux, try 3
1135893346 M * Roey root            (hd0,2)
1135893346 M * Roey kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0 root=/dev/mapper/main-host
1135893356 M * Roey I tried also with the 'dolvm2' kernel argument.
1135893370 M * Roey derjohn:  I've been playing aroudn with that for days now
1135893404 M * derjohn Roey, isnt it fun? </irony>
1135893424 M * derjohn Roey, "/dev/mapper/main-host" what is the alternative name?
1135893440 M * Roey derjohn:  /dev/main/host
1135893452 M * derjohn did you try that with the recent kernels=?
1135893465 M * Roey derjohn:  like.. is it gnu/linux that is hard or is it that I am just stupid
1135893468 M * Roey derjohn:  yes
1135893476 M * Roey derjohn:  I've been using it on recent kernels.
1135893496 M * derjohn Roey, obviously you are too stupid. and well all too :)
1135893503 M * Roey yes
1135893506 M * Roey I suppose :(
1135893514 M * Roey you're all?
1135893514 M * Roey no
1135893515 M * Roey just me
1135893515 M * derjohn Roey, I mean recent == you last one with compiled in stuff
1135893518 M * Roey yes
1135893529 M * Roey derjohn:  this entry is the one I used to try and boot the latest kernel.
1135893533 M * Roey I don't modify these entries.
1135893539 M * Roey I just get rid of the images in /boot
1135893543 M * Roey and then install them again with make-kpkg.
1135893561 M * Roey er
1135893563 M * Roey yeah.
1135893572 M * derjohn Roey, then try with "/dev/main/host" ?
1135893576 M * tso Roey before rootfs not found did you see that raid controller found, disks found, lvm ok?
1135893577 M * DaCa if your kernel is on / and your root is on lvm how is grub supposed to find the kernel?
1135893609 M * tso DaCa kernels is on /boot with ext3 is not on lvm
1135893612 M * DaCa the easiest way is to have a _real_ partition for /boot and put your kernel there
1135893616 M * DaCa ha ok
1135893637 M * Roey derjohn:  I did /dev/main/host, it didn't make a difference.
1135893640 M * Roey tso:  yes, yes.
1135893646 M * Roey DaCa:  the kernel is on /boot
1135893775 M * Roey kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/mapper/main-host
1135893783 M * Roey does this mean anything if you do not use initrd???
1135893856 M * DaCa nope, this is clearly intended for initrd
1135893861 M * Roey ok.
1135893863 M * Roey I'm going nuts.
1135893873 M * Roey I think there was some thresholdthat was crossed early this morning
1135893880 M * Roey mind:  Roey, you're going nuts, stop this insanity
1135893883 M * Roey me: shut up, you.
1135893887 M * derjohn DaCa, sire? Boot from a "ramdisk"  ram0
1135893921 M * derjohn Roey, mom ... I remember something ... wasn't ram0 renamed? to rd0? with kernel 2.6.12 ? or wass it vice versa?
1135893938 M * DaCa derjohn: yes, thats where the initrd gets loaded, and linuxrc on that ramdisk is what is executed instead of init
1135893958 M * derjohn DaCa, /dev/ram0 oder /dev/rd0 or /dev/rd/p ?
1135893963 M * Roey DaCa:  I'm tyring to boot without a ramdisk.
1135893978 M * Roey DaCa:  I have the raid drivers and xfs and lvm2 built-in to the kernel.
1135893980 M * derjohn Roey, also try to rename /dev/ram0 ....
1135893981 M * tso derjohn it doesn't matter because the latest kernel conf does not have ramfs or initrd compiled in
1135893985 M * Roey DaCa:  but it can't open /
1135894001 M * DaCa Roey: yeah, I got that
1135894002 M * Roey derjohn:  well that was just a question.. i"m not using that ram0 line at all.
1135894018 M * derjohn Roey, k
1135894050 M * derjohn I wonder how to kernel assemble /dev/lvmfoo .. dies it need a config file? or automagically=?
1135894085 M * Roey dunno
1135894228 M * DaCa these are usually created by vgscan, thus by the initrd, but ISTR that since lvm is using devmapper the syntax used by Roey should work (root=/dev/vg-lv) but I must say I never tried it
1135894259 M * Roey DaCa:  so these things have to be created by scripts first?
1135894261 M * Roey is that it?
1135894274 M * Roey I *must* use an initrd which has scripts to activate the lvm partitions??
1135894371 M * derjohn Roey, this is an assumption I wanted to propose ... (running out of other ideas)
1135894387 M * Roey ok
1135894396 M * mnemoc lvm volumes must be activated on each boot
1135894396 M * Roey derjohn:  I considered that some time ago
1135894400 M * Roey mnemoc:  ok
1135894405 M * Roey mnemoc:  the kernel can't auto-do that?
1135894410 M * mnemoc no
1135894414 M * Roey oof.
1135894414 M * Roey ok
1135894418 M * Roey so I *do* need an initrd then
1135894425 M * Roey or make my 100-megabyte /boot into a /
1135894437 M * mnemoc i do that, 100M /
1135894441 M * Roey right
1135894444 M * derjohn Roey, yes, this we I boot the vsrevers ;)
1135894444 M * Roey you gave me that ide.a
1135894459 M * Roey hmm>?
1135894467 M * Roey derjohn:  can you say that again?
1135894483 M * Adrinael I have my / as a 100MB native partition, everything else as LVM
1135894485 M * DaCa Roey: I am not sure, as I said I never tried it. I have given up putting root on lvm before the change to devmapper, I now always use a small but real partition (128-256Mib) for / and put everything else on lvm  
1135894498 M * Adrinael I couldn't take the burden of trusting an initrd to vgscan
1135894505 P * meandtheshell 
1135894518 M * Adrinael This way I can even rescue-boot
1135894525 M * derjohn Roey, er .. sry ... I boot the host from a /dev/md0 and mount /var/vservers from a lvm-foo
1135894568 M * derjohn Roey, no one dared to speak until yet because we all assumed you wanted to stick to your patrition layout.
1135894573 M * DaCa Adrinael: indeed thats the same reasoning here, its just more reliable and it doesnt make a difference anyway
1135894589 M * derjohn DaCa, Adrinael: same here
1135894597 M * Roey so all of you guys do that??
1135894597 M * Roey wow
1135894602 M * Roey daca, derjohn, adrinael...
1135894605 M * Roey everyone has a small /
1135894606 M * Roey ok
1135894609 M * Adrinael And rsync snapshots the files anyway when backuping
1135894617 M * derjohn Roey, we have a small ... 
1135894621 M * Roey ok
1135894622 M * Roey haha
1135894627 M * derjohn Roey, more or less .. 10 G 
1135894631 M * derjohn :)
1135894650 M * Roey k
1135894656 M * Roey derjohn:  but those are many directories btw...
1135894656 M * Adrinael (I still make a snapshot lv for other dirs when backuping)
1135894658 M * Roey 100 mb is enough?
1135894680 M * derjohn Adrinael, yes. But we think about lvm snapshots for the vservers dir/partition
1135894681 M * tso derjohn well how many days did he work on it? and you don't tell him that?? :)
1135894693 M * derjohn tso, /me ?
1135894700 M * Roey tso:  should it be popssible to have an initrd that autoactivates the disks
1135894700 M * Roey eh?
1135894706 M * derjohn tso, I am in there only this evening ...
1135894708 M * tso derjohn no, sry all of you :)
1135894714 M * derjohn tso, *lol*
1135894716 M * tso derjohn mee too :)
1135894716 M * Adrinael derjohn, yes, but I remember him giving the argument about backuping / earlier (like, days ago)
1135894734 M * Adrinael Roey, it's possible, I had it, but it was a burden
1135894744 M * derjohn tso, but: we dunnot really know if it is impossible ...
1135894752 M * DaCa Roey: its usually enough if you have /usr /home /tmp /var (and maybe /opt) on other partitions
1135894754 M * Roey Adrinael:  how long till there is some easy method or tool to allow for that od you think
1135894759 M * tso Roey yes
1135894760 M * Adrinael The Debian initrd does that, if you install to lvm
1135894772 M * Roey Adrinael:  what debian initrd?
1135894774 M * derjohn Roey, 100 MEG for a full debian????
1135894780 M * Roey derjohn:  no just /
1135894781 M * Adrinael The one the installer did for me...
1135894785 M * Roey Adrinael:  did what
1135894800 M * derjohn Adrinael, boot from lvm?
1135894807 M * derjohn Adrinael, di in etch?
1135894814 M * Adrinael derjohn, sarge
1135894823 M * Adrinael And in fact, yes, /boot was native...
1135894827 M * derjohn Adrinael, so we could look how it works by a small fresh install
1135894849 M * Roey derjohn:  I think I'll leave it for the next server.
1135894859 M * derjohn Roey, reduce your swap ..  so you get 1 GB free for /
1135894861 M * Adrinael But anyway, it's so much safer and easier if / is native.
1135894865 M * Roey ok.
1135894869 M * Roey Adrinael:  is it???
1135894880 M * Adrinael It is. You can rescue-boot with any kernel.
1135894898 M * derjohn Roey, 'cmon .. show us that you have real bullocks and fixe the bug </kidding>
1135894916 M * Roey derjohn:  heh
1135894922 M * Roey Adrinael:  I can rescue boot with kanotix
1135894924 M * Roey that's all I need
1135894933 M * Roey derjohn:  I mean I was going to make /boot -> /
1135894945 M * Roey derjohn:  to fix the problem... I need to start using yaird
1135894957 M * Roey derjohn:  and then to put in the debian scripts to activate the partitions
1135894960 M * tso Roey i think 100mb a bit small...
1135894961 M * Adrinael And I remember that.... Roey, did you say Sarge install didn't support installing to LVM?
1135894971 M * Roey Adrinael:  it didn't... but etch's installer did.
1135894975 M * derjohn Roey, but the / fs does not fit omn 100 Meg ? df -h ?
1135894975 M * Adrinael Wrong.
1135894977 M * Roey Adrinael:  nad you can install sarge with etch's installer
1135894980 M * Roey Adrinael:  what wrong??
1135894994 M * Adrinael I installed my brother's computer, Sarge's d-i, and into LVM
1135895008 M * Adrinael It's quite awkward, but it supports LVM
1135895024 M * derjohn Adrinael, on a workstation? cool, the bullocks are handed over :)
1135895034 M * Roey Adrinael:  I did it on my parents' PC 
1135895037 M * Roey Adrinael:  / on lvm.
1135895069 M * Adrinael I can think of no reason NOT to use LVM. It's so much easier to slap in a new disk.
1135895083 M * Adrinael Hm, double negatives...
1135895128 M * derjohn Roey, back to you. I think you need a full "/" on a ext3/non-lvm ...
1135895149 M * derjohn Roey, can You free a^W some gig from somewhere?
1135895170 M * Adrinael My current / has used 88MB
1135895174 J * Marinus Marinus@ip503cfa01.speed.planet.nl
1135895174 M * derjohn Roey, maybe give up swap and use swapd ?
1135895179 M * Adrinael With /home, /usr, /var and /tmp elsewhere
1135895180 M * DaCa the only reason to not use LVM is when you want to share data with other operating systems 
1135895183 M * Adrinael (No /srv)
1135895192 M * Roey derjohn:  100 megs is not enough??
1135895206 M * derjohn Roey, see Adrinael last lines
1135895206 M * Roey DaCa:  not on a server though
1135895219 M * Roey DaCa:  this is for a server so I don't need to dual boot.
1135895223 M * mnemoc all my running machines have 100M (or less) at root
1135895226 M * DaCa Roey: of course
1135895234 M * Adrinael I have three kernels' modules there
1135895332 M * derjohn I think 100M is pretty small, but it seems to work (our routers fit on 256 MB CFs and boot completely into RAM ...)
1135895360 M * Adrinael Only thing on / taking space is /lib/modules really
1135895366 M * Roey right..
1135895392 M * michal_ yep
1135895394 M * tso derjohn as Adrinael wrote is enough if /usr /var is on other partition
1135895408 M * Roey tso:  yeah that's wha tI am doing.
1135895420 M * Adrinael And possibly /root on braindead administrations
1135895420 M * tso hm, i think i slow down a bit
1135895674 M * DaCa I usually use 128 MiB for / and its never takes more than 50%, sometimes I use 256MiB but only for systems that will have multiple (more than 2) kernels to boot from
1135895698 M * derjohn Adrinael, eh, yes, mit /root is always full. my /tmp too btw.
1135895737 M * Adrinael My /tmp is not on /
1135895740 M * Roey I will make these mount points:     root tmp var vservers usr
1135895743 M * Roey btw
1135895744 M * Adrinael The same fs I mean
1135895757 M * Roey my /boot (which is going to be the new /) is 100 MB and is only 50% full.
1135895765 M * Roey unfortunately /etc is in it
1135895769 M * Roey so I hope etc doesn't grow to large.
1135895772 M * Roey or any other tuff.
1135895773 M * Roey stuff.
1135895774 M * DaCa for /tmp I usually use a ramdisk
1135895775 M * Roey liek /bin or /sbin
1135895782 M * michal_ my boto is 100 MB and i feel like it is not enough
1135895786 M * michal_ *boot
1135895787 M * Roey /bin, /sbin and /lib are all in that partition.
1135895794 M * Roey michal_:  heh
1135895802 M * derjohn Roey, /etc must be on the rootfs ... there was a time when even /var had to be there when booting from raid
1135895806 M * Adrinael /etc will only grow large if you have the old gconf
1135895809 M * Roey michal_:  michal?
1135895813 M * Roey michal_:  like, female michal?
1135895828 M * Roey Adrinael:  this is purely a server.
1135895835 M * Roey Adrinael:  no gconf or antyhign here :)
1135895837 M * Adrinael Then it won't grow
1135895877 M * DaCa oh yes, gconf, I've seen on other systems that it consumes lots of space on /etc, but we were talking a server right?
1135895904 M * derjohn Roey, nope. michal is a hmm .. i think polish variant of "michael". 
1135895971 M * michal_ Roey: not really i am te man, at least my parents told me so ;p
1135895988 M * michal_ more or less yes, polish variant of michael
1135896043 M * Adrinael Some hilights from my / fs: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3w9Z7J44.html
1135896062 M * Adrinael 45M     /lib/modules      btw
1135896162 M * Roey here it is <40 MB
1135896163 M * Roey but...
1135896170 M * Roey /lib needs to be under /, right?
1135896174 M * Roey it can't be in its own partition right???
1135896182 M * michal_ would not be really smart
1135896189 M * Adrinael It needs to be in /
1135896189 M * Roey michal_:  to do twhat?
1135896192 M * Adrinael /bin needs it
1135896196 M * michal_ you want to have at least minimal boting system for rescue, believe me
1135896202 M * Roey michal_:  ah, ok.  In Israel michal is feminine
1135896205 M * Roey michal_:  for 'michael
1135896206 M * Roey '
1135896207 M * Adrinael Just look at ldd /bin/sh
1135896215 M * Roey michal_:  mee-chhhhhal
1135896216 M * michal_ Roey: nice to know :)
1135896219 M * Roey =)
1135896240 M * michal_ nice ircname btw ;p
1135896266 M * Adrinael You want /bin, /sbin, /lib, /root and /etc.
1135896309 M * Roey hmm
1135896315 M * Roey I made /root a separate partitoin
1135896353 M * Adrinael Bad idea.
1135896361 M * Adrinael What if mounting everything but / fails?
1135896395 M * michal_ exactly
1135896415 M * michal_ Adrinael had provided you essential list of realy needed dirs
1135896421 M * Roey hmm.
1135896421 M * Roey ok
1135896424 M * Roey I'm going home
1135896425 M * Adrinael Hm, but won't login succeed even if home dir doesn't exist?
1135896427 M * Roey seeya guys tomorrow
1135896429 M * Roey you're right bwt.
1135896430 M * Roey btw.
1135896433 M * Roey good night :
1135896435 M * Roey and THANKS :)
1135896440 M * Adrinael /root can of course contain notes and helpful files...
1135896451 M * michal_ if you need large amount of data in /root do useradd your_casual_user :)
1135896462 M * michal_ you're welcome :)
1135896493 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1135897072 J * mattg ~mattg@ny.webpipe.net
1135897155 M * mattg I could use some help with this error: vserver voice.pedigreesoft.com start
1135897155 M * mattg /lib/util-vserver/functions: line 555: read: read error: 0: Is a directory
1135897305 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@acs-24-154-53-16.zoominternet.net
1135897567 M * Adrinael    555      read _gvs_ctx <"$1"/run  
1135897568 M * Adrinael hmm
1135897601 M * Adrinael util-vserver could use some error checking and sanity checking on the arguments before doing things
1135897680 M * Adrinael Like test -d /etc/vserver/$name before build, unless --force is given, before failing with "-n is not a command"
1135897841 Q * Johnnie Quit: G'bye!
1135897850 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@acs-24-154-53-16.zoominternet.net
1135898017 M * lonewolff hi all
1135898064 Q * Johnnie Quit: 
1135898075 M * lonewolff can anyone suggest the easiest/quickest way to create a vserver with is using a different distro from the host? (i have multiple debian/ubuntu vservers running on a debian box). I specifically want to  run opensuse in a vserver
1135898590 M * Bertl_oO lonewolff: yes, use an rpm based distro on the host
1135898598 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1135898649 M * Bertl Adrinael: patches are always welcome!
1135898703 M * Marinus hey Bertl!
1135898716 M * Bertl mattg: how did you create/configure your guest?
1135898769 M * mattg Bertl: I copied it from another vserver host server (tarballed)
1135898805 M * michal_ wb Bertl :)
1135898812 M * mattg There's actually a series of errors: vserver test.pedigreesoft.com start
1135898813 M * mattg /usr/lib/util-vserver/functions: line 555: read: read error: 0: Is a directory
1135898813 M * mattg /bin/rm: cannot remove `/vservers/test.pedigreesoft.com': Is a directory
1135898813 M * mattg save_ctxinfo: open("/vservers/test.pedigreesoft.com"): File exists
1135898864 M * lonewolff Bertl: i know nothing about rpm based things, just a client wants a vserver based on it ... is there no other way?
1135898902 M * Bertl mattg: I'd say you messed up the config
1135898934 M * Bertl lonewolff: well, yes, but debian is not very rpm friendly, so all rpm based installation methods do not work
1135898957 M * Bertl lonewolff: of course you can 'simply' copy any rpm based guest over
1135898993 M * lonewolff aha i was wondering if that woudl work
1135899002 M * Bertl mattg: the tree based config file contains symlinks, maybe you broke them?
1135899005 M * mattg Bertl: also the old is coming from 0.30.208 to .209, but that shouldn't be a huge difference . I will check through the configs one more time
1135899009 M * lonewolff i have qemu disk images of the os i want to run, wich i can mount and get the files from
1135899027 M * lonewolff Bertl: thanks for the help
1135899032 M * Bertl lonewolff: yep, that should work
1135899032 A * lonewolff wanders off to have a play
1135899040 M * mattg Bertl: I did when transferred, but I've already recreated them
1135899056 M * Bertl mattg: but slightly wrong it seems
1135899074 M * Bertl save_ctxinfo looks in /var/lib/something not /vservers
1135899208 M * Bertl (or /var/run/vservers, IIRC)
1135899308 J * infowolfe jthm@66-230-102-182-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net
1135899458 M * mattg Bertl: Okay. that fixed it.. had to: echo 701 > /usr/var/run/vservers/test.pedigreesoft.com; ln -s /usr/var/run/vservers/test.pedigreesoft.com /etc/vservers/test.pedigreesoft.com/run
1135899644 M * Bertl well, yes, the echo was probably unnecessary :)
1135899672 M * Bertl aloha infowolfe!
1135899691 M * Marinus bertl: is there any way to get selinux running properly inside a guest?
1135899768 M * Bertl selinux is running properly on host and guest ..
1135899796 M * Bertl what (expected?) behaviour is unexpected for you?
1135899806 M * Marinus hm, because when installing plesk i get a lot of errors in a guest which i think have something to do with selinux
1135899819 M * Marinus which occurs when installing rpms
1135899827 M * Bertl Marinus: maybe with an improper selinux configuration
1135899857 M * Marinus I use a normal rpm installation
1135899871 M * Marinus I get "cpio: lsetfilecon failed" related errors
1135899928 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving
1135900001 M * Bertl wrong/bad policy ...
1135900022 M * Marinus hmm, the weird thing is. this even happens when i completely disable selinux
1135900027 M * Bertl in general selinux is not easy to get right with chroot environments
1135900040 M * Marinus yeh i read something about that
1135900059 M * michal_ Marinus: i propose you look at www.rsbac.org
1135900073 M * Bertl probably removing the entire selinux stuff is the best way to go ...
1135900109 M * Bertl michal_: apropos, apropos :) we should try to find 'useful' combinations of linux-vserver and rsbac-pieces ...
1135900139 M * michal_ i remember about it, waiting for more time - when i will have winter holiday break i think we might do some work
1135900147 M * michal_ so, in a month
1135900148 M * Marinus Bertl: yes, the only problem with that is that Plesk 'requires' selinux
1135900172 M * michal_ how does this requirment looks like ?
1135900181 M * Bertl michal_: okay, is fine for me, as long as it isn't forgotten :)
1135900184 M * Marinus it is automatically installed by the installer
1135900194 M * Bertl Marinus: Plesk is easy to trick ...
1135900212 M * Bertl just get a dummy package which provides the dependancies
1135900221 M * Marinus yes, I figured i might give a manual install a try as well
1135900234 M * Bertl (examples for dummy packages can be found on the ML)
1135900249 M * Marinus I'll give that a try :)
1135900265 M * michal_ it is just an application, at least it is not patched with selinux functions it is possible to work over it
1135900289 J * ryker ~ryker@c-67-176-240-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net
1135900290 M * Marinus true, to run plesk itself doesn't even require selinux to be enabled
1135900293 M * Bertl yup, will probably require a few scripts too, like ifconfig or so
1135900304 M * Marinus I just get weird errors when trying to install its RPMs
1135900315 M * Bertl anyway, off to bed now ... back tomorrow ...
1135900322 M * Marinus night!
1135900325 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1135900479 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@acs-24-154-53-16.zoominternet.net
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