1135728580 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1135728631 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1135729420 M * FaUl finally got it
1135729424 M * FaUl *sproing*
1135729433 M * FaUl vserver on sparc64
1135729540 M * michal_ great news :)
1135729556 M * FaUl yes
1135729558 M * FaUl definitly
1135730025 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving
1135730789 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving
1135732024 Q * Marinus Read error: Connection reset by peer
1135732379 J * sebi_ ~sebi@Fd7d8.f.strato-dslnet.de
1135732481 Q * sebi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135733927 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-047.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1135734251 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135734462 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135735098 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.15
1135735261 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1135735278 M * Bertl couldn't sleep .. back now ...
1135735321 M * michal_ same with me...
1135735342 M * michal_ btw, creating cross compiller enviroments on gentoo and using them is trivial
1135735374 M * michal_ there is a script to be called with two parameters, wait, done :)
1135735411 M * Bertl cool
1135735414 M * michal_ one parameter is the target and one is stage (how many parts are going to be build - binutils,gcc,glibc,g++)
1135735526 M * michal_ crossdev in case you are curious (you have your own way also working :)
1135735542 M * Aiken_ 2 of us had that kind of thing sorted before we left gentoo back in 2003
1135735693 M * Bertl hey Aiken_! how are/were holidays?
1135735705 M * Aiken_ hot
1135735720 M * Aiken_ quiet with about 11 hours of driving
1135735781 M * michal_ ok... have a good whatever everybody and Bertl catch some sleep !
1135735783 A * michal_ off
1135735795 M * Bertl night michal_!
1135735813 M * Bertl Aiken_: yeah, it's summer holidays, how do you call it, btw?
1135735870 M * Aiken_ just christmas holiday
1135735872 M * Aiken_ and hot
1135735887 M * Aiken_ christmas day was 38C where we were :(
1135735915 M * Bertl sitting in the sun? drinking a cola?
1135735932 M * Aiken_ sitting in the shade and drinking lots of water
1135735954 M * Aiken_ would have loved a Guiness or 2 but was the person with the car keys
1135736023 M * Bertl i.c.
1135736130 Q * Roey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135736189 M * Aiken_ just building v2.6.14.5-vs2.1.0-rc10 for alpha
1135736210 M * Aiken_ what was christmas like your way?
1135736261 M * Bertl well, a little celebrating with family, a little celebrating here on the channel .. much snow and very cold outside :)
1135736630 M * Aiken_ but all that snow how would you with the after lunch swim?  :)
1135736761 M * Aiken_ still can not imagine snow for christmas
1135736894 Q * tchan Remote host closed the connection
1135736899 M * Bertl yeah, I have to admit that imagine almost 40°on xmas is hard for me too
1135736929 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1135736946 M * Bertl wb tchan!
1135748545 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1135749010 M * Bertl welcome balbir!
1135749226 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
1135749236 M * Bertl welcome cehteh!
1135749249 M * cehteh moin :)
1135750870 M * Bertl okay, off to bed again ... have a nice whatever everyone!
1135750876 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1135757252 Q * brc Quit: No windows for this server
1135757804 J * oDn_ ~odn@pcam.net1.nerim.net
1135758463 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-243-57.netcologne.de
1135758570 Q * Smutje_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135759865 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio49.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1135759883 M * Milf Hello
1135760510 Q * meebey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135760666 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1135761429 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1135761500 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com
1135761566 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1135761926 Q * spencer Quit: new screen time
1135765553 Q * michal_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135765673 J * michal_ ~michal@mprivacy-update.de
1135766720 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving
1135766860 J * KrYpTo ~KriS@212.202.141.92
1135766960 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-13-122.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1135767699 J * infowolfe jthm@66-230-102-182-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net
1135768412 M * SiD3WiNDR while running chkrootkit it always gets permission denied on /proc/1/fd
1135768419 M * SiD3WiNDR which I guess is logical as it's the host's init
1135768428 M * SiD3WiNDR is there another init-style that could "fix" that? 
1135768435 M * SiD3WiNDR (it's not really a big problem but still)
1135768447 M * SiD3WiNDR it gets me some 10 cron mails per day only saying that ;)
1135768528 M * SiD3WiNDR then again, is it logical to run chkrootkit inside a vserver?
1135768915 N * lonewolf1 lonewolff
1135769370 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection
1135769428 M * yang I am trying to install vserver on parisc, but there is no util-vserver package...
1135769431 M * yang apt-cache search vserver
1135769434 M * yang kernel-patch-vserver - context switching virtual private servers - kernel patch
1135769436 M * yang vserver-debiantools - Tools to manage debian virtual servers
1135770339 J * _Angel_ ~Kashira@wan11.ihredomainadresse.de
1135770429 J * shedi ~siggi@213-140-22-77.fastres.net
1135770649 M * Adrinael SiD3WiNDR, it's much more useful to run it in the host, checking the vserver's files.
1135770661 M * Adrinael The possibly infested vserver cannot thusly interfere
1135770927 M * yang do i have to install any of those two packages?
1135770930 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146
1135771936 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
1135772124 M * meandtheshell yang: hi - hmm ... that's weird - because "vserver-debiantools" depends on util-vserver. If you try "apt-get -s install vserver-debiantools" you'll see that. 
1135772185 M * meandtheshell take a look at that http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=util-vserver&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
1135772195 M * yang Depends: util-vserver, debootstrap (>= 0.2.41-0.2), binutils, rsync
1135772208 M * meandtheshell yang: right
1135772221 M * meandtheshell yang: hm?
1135772257 M * yang the link that you gave me , doesnt support hppa port
1135772308 M * meandtheshell yang: yeah right that's the weird thing here - but you need util-vserver for vserver-debiantools
1135772329 M * meandtheshell I've no Idea ...
1135772360 M * yang i could try running it on sparc, i see the build there
1135772467 M * meandtheshell yang: if you have a sparc box available then of course ...  
1135772474 Q * harry Remote host closed the connection
1135772477 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be
1135772629 M * Roey gu
1135772630 M * Roey hi
1135772947 Q * Roey Quit: Leaving
1135772959 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
1135774572 M * Roey hello
1135774574 M * Roey anyone here?
1135774667 M * Milf Yeah, just back from lunch.
1135774885 M * Roey ok
1135776035 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1135776040 M * Bertl morning folks!
1135776064 Q * balbir Quit: Leaving
1135776113 M * meandtheshell Bertl: hey there :-)
1135776187 M * Bertl Roey: just making sure _that_ somebody is listening? :)
1135776236 M * Roey YES
1135776250 M * Roey I just wanted to know if anyone is here
1135776322 M * meandtheshell Roey: 85 people in the room ... that's something isn't it? :-)
1135776357 M * Bertl could be all dead :)
1135776362 M * Roey meandtheshell:  right and no one was talking :(
1135776364 M * Roey anyhow...
1135776384 M * Roey I was wondering if any of you use apt-proxy.  I'm using it, and I have an issue with setting it up, and #apt-proxy on Freenode seems dead.
1135776411 M * Bertl Roey: that's IRC, there are periods of quiescence, but usually folks answer when then get back ...
1135776556 M * mnemoc on some channels you may need to wait patiently for more than a day to get your answer
1135776622 M * Roey ok
1135776671 M * Milf Where do I get a dietlibc?
1135776705 M * mnemoc www.fefe.de ... or your distribution
1135776729 M * Milf Nope SuSE doesn't ship any
1135776757 M * mnemoc +1 suse_stinkyness
1135776768 M * mnemoc fefe.de then
1135776778 M * Milf yep
1135776815 M * Milf I could add some more points to the suse_stinkyness counter :)
1135776835 M * mnemoc :)
1135776852 M * Milf But we don't want to have to rename this channel to #suse_stinks
1135776853 M * mnemoc then change to another distribution
1135776865 M * Milf I'll have to meditate on this.
1135776888 M * mnemoc using T2 you can build your own _distributable_ distribution based on dietlibc
1135776892 M * Milf Because we will probably keep using the OpenExchange, which runs either on SLES oder RHEL
1135776918 M * Milf And I'd like to keep the amount of distrib used in the company to a minimum
1135776999 M * Bertl Milf: are you sure?
1135777015 M * Bertl Milf: pbone says different (regarding dietlibc)
1135777038 M * Milf Hmmm, might have searched badly. Can you tell me the package?
1135777042 M * Bertl i.e. I see 20 versions of dietlibc, no really recent though
1135777065 M * Milf (you are referring to dietlibc being included in SuSE?)
1135777068 M * Bertl dietlibc-0.23-96* for example
1135777089 M * Bertl OpenSuSE and SuSE 9.x
1135777124 M * Milf Hmmm, might have been discontinued in 10.0 oder outsourced to DVD only (I only blurbed the CDs to my FTP Server)
1135777141 M * Milf Hmmm, compile or look through SuSE ftp server?
1135777178 M * Bertl well, I would suggest to get one of the RH or Mandrake dietlibc source RPMs and recompile that
1135777191 M * Bertl (you want a recent dietlibc)
1135777196 M * Milf Why not the original from fefe.de?
1135777214 M * Bertl well, sure, you can do that, but it will not give you a package
1135777218 Q * Schak Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135777231 M * Milf Why Do I need a package?
1135777250 M * Bertl no idea, why do you need a distro which is package based?
1135777267 M * Milf Right now I just want to have a SuSE 10.0 Vserver host to check if that'll help my problem with SuSE providing some Programs only with IPv6 sockets.
1135777307 M * Bertl aha, now I'm completely confused ...
1135777318 M * Milf Riiiight :)
1135777345 M * Milf Don't mind me, I'm just doodling along things I should have taken care of months ago.
1135777405 M * Bertl yang: the tools work fine on hppa, just distros do not support it yet ... so get the source, configure and compile (should work)
1135777445 M * Bertl Milf: no problem, but maybe you want to explain what you are trying to accomplish (maybe we can give some hints :)
1135777457 M * Milf Long story.
1135777486 M * Milf some months ago I complained here about wget from a 9.3 guest not wirking in an older SUSe Version host.
1135777511 M * Bertl okay
1135777520 M * Milf So now I'm trying to get a 10.0 host running a 10.0 guest and see if that helps
1135777528 M * Bertl that is/was because of ipv6 issues?
1135777537 M * Milf right now I'm compiling the tools that need dietlibc
1135777551 M * Milf Yep, IPv6 issues.
1135777566 M * Milf strace revealed that wget only ever tries to open an IPv6 socket.
1135777568 M * Bertl well, that won't work now either, ipv6 is disabled inside a guest
1135777588 M * Milf So then I'm f****d
1135777591 M * Bertl and the guest distro should be 100% independant from the host distro
1135777605 M * Milf But not independent from the kernel.
1135777610 M * Bertl (that's what allows to move guests among hosts)
1135777624 M * Bertl Milf: no, but the kernel is probably not that different
1135777654 M * Milf Hmmmhmmm, so I'll have to find a HiWi to get IPv6 into vserver?
1135777683 M * Bertl well, you could just wait for ngnet (which will include ipv6)
1135777700 M * Milf (didn't I say some very similar thing about a year ago that never came true?)
1135777703 M * Bertl but it sounds a little weird to me that a distro would go ipv6 only
1135777720 M * Bertl Milf: lol :)
1135777734 M * Milf Well right now it's only some warnings in postfix and slapd and only wget that completely refuses to work.
1135777790 M * Milf Well my last HiWi, the one I got working on an "XML to configdir converter" I had to fire because he didn't show up anymore.
1135777873 M * Milf Hmmm, now I've compiled me a dietlibc. Do I need to install it somewhere?
1135777895 M * Bertl depends, if it is reachable via path, no
1135777935 M * Milf Well I'll just make install it
1135777959 M * Bertl Milf: could you do an 'strace -fF -o wget.trace wget http://www.13thfloor.at/' for me?
1135777983 M * Bertl (inside a guest which insists on using ipv6?)
1135777991 M * Milf Ahmm, yeah, probably already have one, just gotta find it.
1135778094 M * Milf http://www.ipsi.fraunhofer.de/~mikeschneider/strace-wget.txt
1135778146 M * Bertl was this with -fF ?
1135778184 M * mnemoc follow threads
1135778196 M * mnemoc sorry :\
1135778202 M * Bertl mnemoc: :)
1135778202 A * mnemoc needs to learn to read
1135778222 M * mnemoc :(
1135778230 A * mnemoc slaps himself
1135778238 M * Bertl I should have asked 'was this done with -fF ?' :)
1135778249 M * mnemoc better :)
1135778387 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1135778464 M * Bertl Milf: the manual for wget says: ipv6 is autodetected at compile time, and can be enabled or disabled at compile and run-time
1135778495 M * Bertl scratch the 'enabled' part
1135778508 M * Bertl here is the original line:
1135778510 M * Bertl # Wget supports IP version 6, the next generation of IP. IPv6 is autodetected at compile-time, and can be disabled at either build or run time. Binaries built with IPv6 support work well in both IPv4-only and dual family environments.
1135778570 M * Bertl (that is for wget 1.10)
1135778991 M * Milf So that should mean that it would work. But It doesn't
1135779019 M * Milf Yeah the strace was with -f
1135779106 J * dothebart titan@p50864DF6.dip.t-dialin.net
1135779136 M * Bertl welcome dothebart!
1135779153 M * Bertl Milf: well, you might want to figure the runtime 'option' to disable it
1135779192 M * Milf Looked through the manpage thrice and came up empty.
1135779205 M * Bertl what version is your wget?
1135779234 M * Bertl btw, recompiling the .src rpm with the configure option --disable-ipv6, should give you a perfectly working wget
1135779252 M * Milf Hmmm, might be an option.
1135779254 M * Bertl probably even 'just' recompiling the package will be sufficient
1135779279 M * Milf wget 1.9.1 in the 9.3 vserver guest
1135779303 M * Bertl inet4_only = on
1135779329 M * Milf Hmmm recompile might be an option for the template
1135779330 M * Bertl (that's the runtime option)
1135779341 M * Milf wget --inet4_only=on ?
1135779351 M * Bertl global init file
1135779365 M * Bertl as options,  --inet4-only or -4
1135779375 M * Milf ok, now I just need a working testserver :)
1135779451 M * Milf Nope, wget 1.9.1 doesn't seem to recognize that line in /etc/wgetrc
1135779478 M * Milf cl-option not ecognized.
1135779491 Q * dothebar1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135779576 M * Bertl well, somehow I can't believe that suse wget would not work _without_ ipv6
1135779600 M * Bertl after all, not everybody has/uses ipv6
1135779813 M * Milf Well, SuSE supplies an IPv6 kernel
1135779844 M * Bertl that's right, but I can simply disable ipv6 in the suse kernel
1135779878 M * yang when installing vserver, its says i have to compile my own kernel, is there a way to patch debian-"default" kernel?
1135780162 M * Bertl yang: yes, but only if you are a kernel hacker ...
1135780195 M * Bertl yang: in case you are not, I would either use a vanilla kernel, or get a debian patched kernel (make sure it is recent enough)
1135780218 M * Bertl Milf: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/2528399/com/wget-1.10.1-2.i586.rpm.html
1135780308 M * Milf Thanks
1135780321 M * yang Bertl: ok i can use vanilla kernel, but i got no experience in using debian-patched kernel , is there any info on this?
1135780353 M * Bertl yang: well, you install it and have, well, a bloated debian kernel with vserver ...
1135780358 M * yang Bertl: what i have now is a kernel Linux centaurus 2.6.8-2-686 from debian default install
1135780424 M * Bertl http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/12/msg00327.html
1135780505 M * Bertl yang: don't ask me how to get that in debian, but I'd suspect you simply get it from unstable :)
1135780517 M * Milf Bertl: that worked, thanx for the link
1135780526 M * yang ok cool i have that in stable too...Package: kernel-patch-vserver, so i just install this and its done...
1135780540 M * Bertl yang: I would suggest not to do so ...
1135780557 M * Bertl the sarge versions (for tools and kernel) are severly broken
1135780587 M * Bertl yang: of course, they might have got fixed by now (unlikely) or you might not care ...
1135780624 M * yang so you are saying the vserver won't work if i install this patch?
1135780639 M * yang its Version: 1.9.5.3
1135780642 M * Bertl they won't work _as expected_ :)
1135780680 M * yang i like to keep the debian kernels running...i usually break something in custom
1135780683 M * Bertl needless to say that 1.9.5 is now almost a year old and we had 2 stable releases since
1135780724 M * Bertl yang: but it's fine for me, just _please_ do not report debian issues with ancient kernels/tools here
1135780782 M * yang ok
1135780836 M * yang do you think this Version: 1:2.01 on "testing" would work better?
1135780875 M * Bertl check if micah was involved (or just ola), when the former is given (which I'd assume there) I'd say it should work
1135780949 M * yang Maintainer: Micah Anderson <micah@debian.org>
1135780956 M * Bertl take it! :)
1135782000 J * Doener doener@i5387ECB9.versanet.de
1135782014 M * Bertl welcome Doener!
1135782025 M * Doener hi #vserver, Bertl!
1135782109 M * Roey anyone here using apt-proxy ?
1135782133 M * Bertl probably not, but I heard it works fine ...
1135782445 Q * tchan Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135782858 M * Roey ok
1135782983 Q * Roey Remote host closed the connection
1135783032 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
1135783636 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1135783991 Q * ddlp Remote host closed the connection
1135786354 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-184-167.netcologne.de
1135786465 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135786624 M * SiD3WiNDR anyone know again how I can get rid of the following error: Dec 28 15:59:38 bebru1 pam_limits[22019]: setrlimit limit #6 to soft=-1, hard=-1 failed: Operation not permitted; uid=0 euid=0
1135786629 M * SiD3WiNDR shows up on login...
1135786650 M * Bertl several options:
1135786679 M * Bertl - not setting a nice value which is lower than 0 on the guest
1135786701 M * Bertl ah, sec, resource limit
1135786881 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1135786904 M * Bertl SiD3WiNDR: so it is trying to set resource #6 to unlimited
1135786930 M * Bertl SiD3WiNDR: what arch is this?
1135786935 M * SiD3WiNDR x86, debian
1135786941 M * SiD3WiNDR it occurs on ssh login
1135786951 M * SiD3WiNDR but I don't have anything defined in the limits.conf stuff
1135786968 M * SiD3WiNDR I fixed this a few times, but it's been over a year since I set up new vservers
1135786974 M * SiD3WiNDR and now I don't recall how to get rid of that :/
1135786989 M * Bertl well, it's probably AS
1135787009 M * Bertl nope, wrong, sec
1135787015 M * Bertl NPROC
1135787036 M * Bertl so, the number of processes is _somehow_ limited inside your guest
1135787053 M * Bertl probably this limit is inherited from the host
1135787082 M * Bertl and, as your guest is not allowed to raise it, it complains
1135787091 M * Bertl back to the possible solutions:
1135787115 M * Bertl - set the nproc limit to unlimited on guest startup (should be possible with the ulimit support)
1135787155 M * Bertl - add CAP_SYS_RESOURCE to the guest
1135787167 M * Bertl - remove the limit stuff from pam
1135787210 J * ichigo ~m@203.81.233.61
1135787225 M * Bertl welcome ichigo!
1135787289 M * ichigo hello 
1135787374 M * ichigo i was wondering can i put my vservers on lvms. something like vserver1 on 1 lvm and vserver2 on lvm no2 
1135787434 M * ichigo also for this should i create/mount the files /vserver/vserver1 /vserver/vserer2 before running the vserver build or after???
1135787571 M * Bertl yes, you can do that (putting it on lvm)
1135787597 M * Bertl and probably the best way is to build it outside and copy it over to the lvm
1135787638 M * ichigo would live resize cause any issues with vserver?
1135787653 M * SiD3WiNDR thanks bertl, I'll look into it
1135787698 N * Smutje_ Smutje
1135787739 M * Bertl ichigo: not that I would know of ... 
1135787890 M * ichigo ah well. i'll try it and tell you.
1135787901 M * Bertl good!
1135788045 J * GGhgh ~GGhgh@196.202.65.166
1135788057 M * GGhgh !CC
1135788067 M * GGhgh !CC
1135788081 M * Bertl welcome GGhgh!
1135788086 M * GGhgh HELLO BERTLE
1135788089 M * GGhgh I NEED VALID CC
1135788098 M * Bertl GGhgh: this is no warez server :)
1135788102 M * GGhgh LOL 
1135788115 M * GGhgh tell me server 
1135788136 M * Bertl better get gcc (instead of cc)
1135788156 M * mnemoc wth?
1135788170 M * GGhgh ok .. 
1135788172 M * GGhgh i wanna it 
1135788174 M * ichigo what does !CC do?? and what is a valid CC????
1135788174 M * GGhgh how can 
1135788175 M * GGhgh ?
1135788232 M * Bertl GGhgh: here http://gcc.gnu.org/releases.html
1135788250 M * Bertl (just compile and install)
1135788313 M * GGhgh ok .. thnx 
1135788444 M * GGhgh exit
1135788446 P * GGhgh 
1135788493 M * ichigo guess he wasn't interest in gCC after all. lol
1135788516 M * Bertl you never know ...
1135788701 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1135788707 M * Bertl welcome stefani!
1135788765 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135788807 J * Doener doener@i5387DD9F.versanet.de
1135788931 M * Bertl wb Doener!
1135788957 M * Bertl Doener: btw, do you plan to spend some time on vserver hacking (in the near future)?
1135789059 M * Doener does january qualify?
1135789086 M * Doener i don't think I'll have any time earlier :( trying to figure out _what_ to do since weeks though ;)
1135789118 M * Bertl sure, january is near future to me :)
1135789135 M * Doener oops, february i meant
1135789144 M * Bertl hehe
1135789237 M * stefani hols
1135789368 M * yang I am trying to patch the kernel, its asking me some questions, I answered YES to most , but this: Persistent Inode Context Tagging
1135789379 M * yang > 4. UID24/GID24 (INOXID_UGID24) (NEW)
1135789426 M * Bertl usually the 'defaults' are fine (i.e. just pressing enter)
1135789438 M * Bertl you can get a help by '?' which should describe the thing
1135789455 M * yang yes, but i dont know what it means
1135789467 M * Bertl okay, that's something else .. let me explain then
1135789476 M * yang i just clicked enter on all
1135789480 M * yang hope it will do fine
1135789491 M * Bertl if you put several guests on a shared partition, then
1135789501 M * Bertl you want the files to be 'tagged' with the context id
1135789516 M * Bertl so that the kernel knows, which files belong to what context
1135789523 M * yang i see
1135789528 M * Bertl this can be done in several ways ...
1135789544 M * Bertl - internal tagging (only works on certain filesystems)
1135789564 M * Bertl - uid/gid tagging (this reserves a few bits of uid/gid for tagging)
1135790914 M * FaUl hu bertl
1135790928 M * Bertl hey FaUl!
1135790967 M * FaUl Bertl: i finally worked arround that issue i described on the ml with disabling namespaces
1135791002 M * Bertl please refresh my memory, if possible ...
1135791021 M * FaUl what exactly are namespaces and why don't it work on sparc64?
1135791046 M * Bertl okay, so you 'found' that they do not work on sparc64?
1135791092 M * FaUl aeh building vservers works fine (with debootstrap) but when i try to start them it says "wait(): no child processes"
1135791104 M * Bertl (and do we talk about 64bit or 32bit userspace?)
1135791119 M * FaUl Bertl: never experienced that problem before, but maybe it's related to 2.1.0, i never used it though
1135791126 M * FaUl 32bit userspace
1135791134 M * FaUl (i guess)
1135791140 M * Bertl so you are using the 64bit compatibility interface?
1135791152 M * Bertl that might be a vserver bug then (as it is not tested)
1135791162 M * FaUl /bin/bash: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, SPARC, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
1135791168 M * FaUl looks like 32bit userspace
1135791171 M * FaUl yes
1135791233 M * Bertl but the kernel is 64bit, right?
1135791245 M * FaUl "Everybody wants this, say Yes!" in the help of that compatibility-switch in the kernel-config finally convinced me
1135791248 M * FaUl yes
1135791252 M * FaUl inux weltzentrale 2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0 #4 SMP Tue Dec 27 15:04:01 CET 2005 sparc64 GNU/Linux
1135791256 M * FaUl +L
1135791317 M * FaUl with touching /etc/vservers/.defaults/nonamespace everything worked fine
1135791320 M * Bertl okay, then please enable vserver debugging (and history tracing) and have a test startup (with namespaces) with 'echo 255 >/proc/sys/vserver/debug_switch'
1135791341 M * Bertl (the echo before you start the guest)
1135791356 M * Bertl after that, please collect the kernel log and upload it somewhere
1135791360 M * FaUl ok, will do that tomorrow if thats fast enough
1135791368 M * Bertl sure, whenever you find the time
1135791548 M * Roey hey Bertl
1135791566 M * Roey Bertl:  you mentioned you have / on xfs/lvm and grub booting from /boot on ext3 (without lvm), yes?
1135791648 M * Bertl could be ... at least booting from lvm is a matter of luck
1135791663 M * Bertl (booting means having the kernel and initrd there
1135791679 M * Bertl it's fine to have the root partition on lvm
1135791682 M * Roey well the kernel is in /boot.
1135791684 M * Roey as well as the initrd.
1135791695 M * Roey I just want to know how to specify that in menu.lst
1135791697 M * Roey (for grub)
1135791699 M * Roey kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/mapper/${your_root_partition} 
1135791703 M * Roey I found that on google.
1135791780 M * Bertl yes, that works, _if_ the initrd is recent enough
1135791818 M * Bertl for example, the older FC initrds and (of course) the debian ones, do ignore the real_root part
1135791843 M * Roey ok
1135791848 M * Roey well mien is from debian etch.
1135791853 M * Roey I just made it yesterday.
1135791865 M * Bertl might work, let me know if it does ...
1135791883 M * Roey ok
1135792030 M * Roey Bertl:  hmm
1135792036 M * Roey Bertl:  grub didn't like (hd0,3)
1135792040 M * Roey root=(hd0,3)
1135792054 M * Roey which is my giant LVM volume group.
1135792833 M * mnemoc your volume group doens't exist on grub time
1135792867 M * Bertl yep, as the lvm requires certain kernel magic, grub can not see it
1135792888 M * Bertl neither can lilo see it properly, but lilo blindly fetches the absolute blocks
1135792920 M * mnemoc initrd has to start your volume group, active the logic volumes and pivot_root
1135792922 M * Bertl so if your lvm volume happens to be continous and the file is in ascending blocks, it will work
1135792936 M * mnemoc :)
1135792948 M * Bertl if your lvm is striped or non continous, lilo will fail)
1135793002 M * Roey mnemoc:  it does... remember, linux and the initrd live in /boot.
1135793003 M * mnemoc i have never been able to create a continous volume, it always scream about space.... weird
1135793053 M * mnemoc i use lilo, and my 100M root device is no under lvm
1135793059 M * Roey Bertl, mnemoc:  you can specify a root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/volumegroup/logicalvolume
1135793066 M * Roey ok.
1135793070 M * Bertl yes, that is fine
1135793074 M * Roey Bertl:  what is
1135793101 M * Bertl is that a question?
1135793109 M * Roey yes.
1135793114 M * Roey Bertl, what is fine?
1135793132 M * Bertl specifying root= and real_root= :)
1135793176 M * mnemoc *G*
1135793202 M * Bertl Roey: is this a language barrier or did I miss your actual question?
1135793340 M * mnemoc i think that 'real_root' is a parameter to gentoo's (and maybe others) initrd's init.
1135793362 M * Bertl yep, it's something which is parsed from initram usually
1135793363 M * Roey mnemoc:  ahhhhhh
1135793368 M * Roey Bertl:  :)
1135793374 M * Roey Bertl:  acutally I did get it from a Gentoo resource page:
1135793387 M * Roey http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_on_an_LVM2_root_partition#The_Easiest_Way
1135793388 M * Roey see
1135793398 M * Bertl but it is not gentoo specific/only
1135793403 M * Roey the thing here is that both the kernel and the initrd are in /boot.
1135793406 M * Roey actually the error it gives me
1135793414 M * Roey is that it can't mount /dev/main/host
1135793417 M * Roey and it's xfs
1135793422 M * Roey I think xfs might not be in the kernel (?)
1135793658 Q * tchan Remote host closed the connection
1135793919 M * Roey ok well the system's been booted.
1135793922 M * Roey through kanotix.
1135794083 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 !
1135794228 M * Bertl Roey: and /boot ois non lvm, right?
1135794415 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1135794488 M * Roey ruight.
1135794488 M * Roey right.
1135794494 M * Roey Bertl:  /boot is plain-vanilla ext3.
1135794502 M * Roey and root is LVM2+XFS.
1135794508 M * Bertl okay, so grub will see it quite fine
1135794512 M * Roey er
1135794517 M * Roey yeah but I have trouble booting still
1135794525 M * Bertl the root you specify to grub is the /boot partition
1135794525 M * Roey I think my stanzas in menu.lst are wrong.
1135794527 M * Roey can you help me?
1135794538 M * Roey Bertl:  oh... so that's (hd0,2), so I was right about that at least.
1135794547 M * Roey (/dev/sda3 is /hd0,2)
1135794551 M * Bertl yep
1135794558 M * Bertl if sda3 is your /boot
1135794561 M * Roey yeah
1135794585 M * Roey title           Debian GNU/Linux, LVM
1135794585 M * Roey root            (hd0,3)
1135794585 M * Roey kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/mapper/main-host
1135794585 M * Roey initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0
1135794588 M * Roey that's what I have.
1135794591 M * Roey actually, root should be (0,2)
1135794599 M * Roey I mean I tried with (hd0,2)
1135794600 M * Roey as well.
1135794610 M * Bertl it's hd(0,2) IIRC
1135794627 M * Bertl and you must not specify the /boot for the file
1135794630 M * Bertl +s
1135794636 M * Bertl so it should read:
1135794648 M * Bertl root hd(0,2)
1135794659 M * Bertl kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0 ...
1135794669 M * Bertl initrd /initrd.img-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0
1135794696 Q * oDn_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1135794708 M * Bertl and, if your initrd is sane ... then just specify root=/dev/mapper/main-host
1135794723 M * Bertl forget about the init and real_root and whatnot
1135794736 M * Roey oh.
1135794737 M * Roey ok.
1135794739 M * Roey lemme try that then.
1135794740 M * Roey one sec.
1135794878 M * Roey title           Debian GNU/Linux, good
1135794878 M * Roey root            (hd0,2)
1135794878 M * Roey kernel          vmlinuz-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0 root=/dev/mapper/main-host
1135794878 M * Roey initrd          initrd.img-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0
1135794882 M * Roey Bertl:  like that?
1135794884 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
1135794891 M * Roey Bertl:  that's my *boot* that is (hd0,2), by the way.
1135794897 M * Roey Bertl:  so why am I specifying root???
1135794941 M * Bertl the 'root' for grub to look for files
1135794949 M * Roey oh
1135794952 M * Roey ok, not /
1135794955 M * Roey not 'root' as in /
1135794960 M * Bertl has nothing to do with your kernel or system
1135794981 M * Bertl well, for grub (which is like a shell) it is the 'new' /
1135795014 M * Bertl that's one of the differences between grub and lilo, grub is aware of the filesystem structure, and you can list or choose files at grub-boot-time
1135795023 M * Roey ok
1135795033 M * Roey Bertl:  also, my volume group is called 'main'
1135795045 M * Roey and LVs under it are accessible through /dev/main/lvname
1135795046 M * Bertl is of no interest to grub
1135795051 M * Roey but then
1135795057 M * Roey so what is /dev/mapper/main-lvname
1135795059 M * Roey all about???
1135795064 M * Bertl you just have to specify the 'right' boot for your ramdisk
1135795065 M * Roey which should I be specifying tot he Linux kernel?
1135795085 M * Bertl I have no idea what your lvm tools create, on mandrake I'd expect 
1135795091 M * Bertl /dev/vg/lv
1135795091 M * Roey ok
1135795093 M * Roey debian btw.
1135795095 M * Roey ok fine.
1135795102 M * Roey I mean I gave it the name 'main'
1135795116 M * Roey yet it shows up in "df"'s output as '/dev/mapper/main-<lvname>'
1135795117 M * Bertl so if your vg is named 'main' and your partition is named 'rootÄ
1135795127 M * Bertl *'root'
1135795128 M * Roey yeah
1135795140 M * Bertl then you would use /dev/main/root (on mandrake)
1135795168 M * Bertl just try and upload the boot log ...
1135795181 M * Bertl (I can probably tell you what went wrong then)
1135795185 M * Roey ok
1135795191 M * Roey I mean I don't know how I can upload the boot log
1135795193 M * Roey if it stalls
1135795195 M * Roey ?
1135795203 M * Roey unless... via some sort of internet-kvm
1135795230 M * Bertl usually I use a serial console for that :)
1135795261 M * Bertl folks who do not have such things have to use a camera or type a lot :)
1135795312 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Null-Modem/ (for serial console cables)
1135795414 M * Roey ahh.
1135795416 M * Roey here,
1135795419 M * Roey lemme write it down 
1135795420 M * Roey brb
1135795876 M * Roey OK
1135795881 M * Roey Bertl:  so this is what it says
1135795889 M * Roey 1sec
1135795921 M * Bertl pastebin.com please?
1135796027 M * Doener heh
1135796037 M * Roey http://rafb.net/paste/results/cvlJx563.html
1135796051 M * Bertl wow! tx, we appreciate it!
1135796074 M * Bertl Roey: so it is trying to mount the rootfs as ext3
1135796083 M * Bertl IIRC, you have xfs there, so it won't work
1135796101 M * Bertl VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev dm-5.
1135796129 M * Bertl IIRC, the debian initrd hard-coded the filesystem in the fstab (inside the initrd)
1135796148 M * Roey erg.
1135796149 M * Roey ok.
1135796160 M * Roey so what can I do then? mount the initrd image and change stuf fin it?
1135796171 M * Roey maybe I don't have xfs inside the kernel??
1135796247 M * Bertl well, that's why I'm with mandrake ... but yes, absically you either recreate the initrd with proper fstab or whatever or you change it manually
1135796337 M * Roey bertl, I can probbaly create another lv of type ext3.
1135796340 M * Roey and copy everything over
1135796343 M * Roey and then the system would boot.
1135796344 M * Roey I think.
1135796356 M * Bertl yeah, could work ...
1135796356 M * Roey at least I won't be working from a kanotix cd.
1135796739 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net
1135796779 M * Bertl welcome prae!
1135796787 M * prae hi
1135796795 M * Bertl how was xmas?
1135797587 J * Cru ~mindwarp@bastardrouterfromhell.e.de.wahlich.com
1135797596 M * Cru morning
1135797887 M * Roey Bertl:  
1135797890 M * Roey I trid it
1135797891 M * Roey it did not work.
1135797902 M * Roey I tried specifying to boot off of /dev/main/ext3root
1135797925 M * Roey where /ext3root is a root device with its /etc/fstab specifying that / is ext3.
1135797951 M * Roey like... I dunno
1135797957 M * Bertl boot messages?
1135797958 M * Roey it refuses to see its fstab.
1135797960 M * Roey same as before.
1135797971 M * Roey maybe it /is/ due to the initrd's hardcoded fstab.
1135797973 M * Roey grr, grr, grr.
1135798021 M * Bertl is /dev/main/ext3root an ext3fs?
1135798084 M * Roey yes
1135798085 M * Roey yes it is.
1135798117 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-46-211.bulldogdsl.com
1135798134 M * Roey like...
1135798139 M * Roey Bertl:  there is only one thing I know of from here.
1135798160 M * Roey Bertl:  and that is to burn a kanotix/amd64 disc (as this is kanotix/ia32), chroot into that partition, and build a new kernel with a new initrd.
1135798270 M * Bertl why not 'just' rebuild the initrd?
1135798277 M * Roey            well yeah
1135798280 M * Roey how do I do that though?
1135798285 M * Roey I think I'm using yaird.
1135798287 M * Roey I have to go in ten minutes
1135798290 M * Roey orthodontist appt.
1135798303 M * Bertl no idea, on mandrake I do 'kinitrd'
1135798307 M * Roey ok.
1135798310 M * Bertl *mkinitrd
1135798314 M * Roey I think I'd like to do this in a chroot first.
1135798320 M * Roey which means... I need a kanotix/amd64.
1135798327 M * jayeola hey chaps -  any one  built a guest with yum 2.4.0?
1135798327 M * Roey or a knoppix light/amd64.
1135798837 M * Doener jayeola: IIRC 2.4.0 needs a patch from enrico to work with util-vserver, see mailing list archives for details
1135798989 M * jayeola yah thanks.... just wish i knew how to apply it.
1135799000 M * Bertl jayeola: what distro?
1135799008 M * jayeola centos
1135799029 M * Bertl get the src.rpm and add the patch to the spec file
1135799053 M * jayeola 4.2. tried a few guides from the main site (to the letter) but nothing has worked so far... thanks for your patience all :/
1135799070 M * Bertl (you can read about that process in the irc logs, I did that with Marinus, but he didn't manage to upload the proper spec/rpm
1135799100 M * Bertl jayeola: you know how to get the .src.rpm?
1135799134 A * jayeola 's lookng in the mailing list.. he thinks he's highlighted that thread
1135799247 M * jayeola hmmm "Fake packages for removing useless dependency packages from RHEL/CentOS/Fedora vservers" <-- thread mfrom m/list
1135799272 M * Cru those are mine
1135799278 M * jayeola :-)
1135799286 M * jayeola so i should be looking for utils-vserver.(version).src.rpm??
1135799292 M * Bertl jayeola: no :)
1135799308 M * Bertl jayeola: you know what you can do with .src.rpm's?
1135799338 M * jayeola please be patient with me.... i think i need to build a specs file?
1135799353 M * Bertl don't worry, I am very patient :)
1135799394 M * jayeola last time around i grabbed util-vserver-0.30.209
1135799408 M * Bertl yes, but you want to patch yum, right?
1135799435 M * jayeola yah. if i knew how to
1135799440 M * Bertl jayeola: here is the irc transcript http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2005-12/LOG_2005-12-26.txt
1135799455 M * Bertl check beginning with timestamp 1135638734
1135799472 M * jayeola thanks. please dont be annoyed if i ask loads of questions after reading it
1135799487 M * Bertl (read it one through, discussion with Marinus, if you still have questions, you're welcome)
1135799499 M * Bertl -one
1135799507 M * Bertl +once
1135799836 M * Cru jayeola: for CentOS 4 (or RHEL 4), there is a patched version of yum 2.4.0 in the naturidentisch.de repositories - if you need them for FC, you could round rpmbuild --rebuild on the src.rpm, but I believe FC is at yum >2.4.0
1135799853 M * Cru s/round/run/
1135799884 M * jayeola yah - centos has yum 2.4.0
1135799912 M * Cru so what distro are you running?
1135799917 M * Cru CentOS?
1135799919 M * Bertl well, I'd strongly advise to use the src rpm of your distro
1135799932 M * jayeola CentOS release 4.2 (Final)
1135799947 M * Bertl Marinus compiled yum (identical version) from sources (non src.rpm) and it didn't work out
1135799961 M * jayeola it's a test box that i built for thrashing/testing
1135799995 M * Cru then you should find anything to run a vserver host at http://naturidentisch.de/packages/centos4 - CentOS4 vservers may use the same packages plus those in .../centos4-vps
1135800019 M * jayeola thanks... looking
1135800024 J * gdm_ ~gdm@209.51.169.84
1135800123 Q * gdm Read error: Connection reset by peer
1135800168 M * jayeola http://naturidentisch.de/packages/centos4/yum/yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.src.rpm ?? anything else? like in http://naturidentisch.de/packages/centos4/util-vserver/, for instance... 
1135800252 M * Cru besides a vs2 patched kernel packages in those directories should be all you need to run a vserver host on CentOS
1135800311 M * jayeola so just to make sure.. yum-2.4.0-chroot-foo and a patched kernel?
1135800323 M * Cru and util-vserver/*.rpm
1135800334 M * Cru except the src.rpm
1135800396 M * Cru the chroot patched yum is required for vserver-build to work correctly on the yum build method
1135800417 J * jeeves ~Bob@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
1135800582 M * Cru but mind the packages in the centos4-vps repository are NOT for the host - installing them on the host will make it unusable
1135800641 M * Cru they are just to shrink CentOS based vservers about 32MB
1135800936 M * Cru ... and prevent those vservers from downloading huge kernel packages etc. in the future ;)
1135800954 M * jayeola k. re-reading LOG_2005-12-26.txt
1135800981 M * jayeola thanks for your patience... i've come here a number of time going -waaaaaah- :/
1135801049 M * Cru heh
1135801182 M * jayeola this time around all i've done is patch the kernel -  2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1
1135801193 M * jayeola that's the story so far. 
1135801238 M * Cru well, so installing the util-vserver-* packages and the chroot patched yum should be all you need to get happy ;)
1135801627 M * Cru dothebart!
1135802092 M * jayeola and finally yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.src.rpm is the patch that i need, right?
1135802105 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-8-170.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1135802127 M * Cru no, thats a source rpm - but the patch is included in this srpm
1135802289 M * Cru installing the binary package does not require to patch anything else, as the binary was compiled from the patched source
1135802641 M * jayeola oh  so i just install it with `rpm -i yum*.src.rpm`?
1135802643 J * meebey_ meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1135802713 M * Cru eh, no, either you install the yum-*.i386.rpm or you recompile the src.rpm using rpmbuild --rebuild yum-*.src.rpm and install the generated rpm package
1135802738 M * Cru eh, sorry, it is a .noarch.rpm
1135802761 M * jayeola yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.noarch.rpm?
1135802762 M * Cru so architecture does not matter - simply install the yum-*.noarch.rpm and be happy ;)
1135802781 M * jayeola i told you i was slow ;)
1135802821 Q * meebey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135803201 Q * prae Quit: Pwet
1135803347 M * jayeola  rpmbuild --rebuild yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.noarch.rpm; error: source package expected, binary found ; error: yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.noarch.rpm cannot be installed
1135803413 M * Cru eh, either rpm -i yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.noarch.rpm or rpmbuild --rebuild yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.src.rpm && rpm -i <whereeverresultingrpmissavedto>
1135803414 M * jayeola and do i need to mv yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.noarch.rpm  yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.src.rpm?
1135803867 M * Bertl .o( and next time on #vserver: will Cru's hair grow back? will the noarch rpm work? ... watch it here, live on the channel :)
1135803912 M * Cru jayeola: the or is a xor ;)
1135803928 M * Cru you do not need both and remaming anything is not required either ;)
1135803932 M * Cru renaming
1135803948 M * Cru Bertl *g
1135803983 M * Cru jayeola: but rpm -U instead of rpm -i is needed if yum is already installed
1135804740 M * Bertl okay, enough for me for today ... off now, back tomorrow!
1135804745 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1135804773 M * michal_ Bertl_zZ: lol
1135804861 M * yang Does vserver offer also other versions of linux, except debian?
1135804883 M * michal_ it is up to you which linux will be inside (and outside)
1135804935 M * Cru bye bertl
1135805350 J * tso ~tso@rev.193.226.232.31.euroweb.hu
1135805354 M * tso hi all
1135805426 M * yang i have one problem, I assigned IP 192.168.1.16 to vserver, but when I ssh to this IP i get to the login of the main box
1135805522 M * Cru yang: your host's sshd seems to be bound to 0.0.0.0
1135805529 M * tso did you modify the main host sshd_config to listen not to all interfaces?
1135805558 M * yang yes, i changed it to 192.168.1.16
1135805569 M * tso yes, that is the mistake
1135805574 M * Cru heh
1135805643 M * yang vserver2:/# cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep 192
1135805643 M * yang ListenAddress 192.168.1.16
1135805659 M * Cru yang: no on the vserver, look at the host
1135805665 M * Cru s/no/not/
1135805693 M * Cru if the host has bound sshd to 0.0.0.0, it listens on every IP, also those of vservers
1135805759 M * tso is there anyone, who work on modifing vserver for 2.6.15-rcX kernels?
1135805809 M * yang Cru: so the main box must have sshd options to 192.168.1.15 and vserver sshd 192.168.1.16 ?=
1135805822 M * tso yang yes
1135805828 M * Cru for example
1135806188 M * jayeola how long should ` rpm -iv yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.noarch.rpm` take on a pIII with 312mb pf free ram?
1135806200 M * jayeola s/pf/of
1135806224 M * Cru hm, 2 seconds?
1135806246 M * Cru if it takes longer, maybe something else has locked the rpm db
1135806249 M * tso depends on current load anyway ;-)
1135806333 M * yang how are additional IP addresses added on vserver?
1135806343 M * yang to use 5 ips in one vserver
1135806368 M * Cru yang: add additional devices to your vserver's config
1135806418 M * Cru to /etc/vservers/<vservername>/interfaces/ or wherever your vservers config is placed
1135806502 M * yang ok
1135806554 Q * jeeves Quit: Leaving
1135806581 M * yang centaurus:/etc/vservers/vserver2/interfaces/0# more ip
1135806581 M * yang 192.168.1.16
1135806591 M * yang i edit manually this ip and add extra IPs inside?
1135806602 M * Cru no, add another interface
1135806630 M * Cru copy the 0 dir to 1 and change the variable files inside
1135806900 M * jayeola hrm... `rpm -ivv yum-2.4.0-chroot.1.cru.noarch.rpm` is hanging at "D: opening  db index       /var/lib/rpm/Packages rdonly mode=0x0". anything i can do about this? i've removed the shipped version of yum and installing that patched version
1135807008 M * Cru as I supposed, anything locks the rpm db - either use lsof to find out what process needs to be canceled or simply reboot
1135807019 M * tso jayeola: are you sure that no other rpm, yum or other processes running? with apt that is the main reason for this kind of problem
1135807084 M * jayeola pgrepping and ps fawux-ing...
1135807091 Q * yang Quit: reboot
1135807314 M * Cru bbl
1135807333 Q * Cru Quit: use Unices; $live->free() || die;
1135807383 M * jayeola  ps e | grep yum shows ...G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1 _=/bin/rpm
1135807548 Q * tso Quit: BitchX: No windows left!
1135807601 J * tso ~tso@rev.193.226.232.31.euroweb.hu
1135809402 P * meandtheshell 
1135809990 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1135810185 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1135810253 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1135811670 M * tso bye
1135811673 Q * tso Quit: [BX] Ping-pong timeout
1135811852 Q * gdm_ Quit: Reconnecting
1135811867 J * gdm ~gdm@209.51.169.84
1135811959 Q * ichigo Quit: Leaving
1135811984 J * Marinus Marinus@ip503cfa01.speed.planet.nl