1135469352 J * foof ~103360BC3@c-67-171-34-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1135469506 Q * foof Remote host closed the connection
1135470118 J * Cru ~mindwarp@bastardrouterfromhell.e.de.wahlich.com
1135470133 M * Cru morning
1135473165 J * sebi ~sebi@Fd1b5.f.strato-dslnet.de
1135473183 J * Skram ~skramy@vistech.org
1135473206 M * Skram Hiya.
1135473266 Q * sebi_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135477099 J * mep_ mep@p5091BC65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1135477546 Q * mep__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135478840 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving
1135479168 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-247-12.netcologne.de
1135479626 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135480050 J * VooDooMaster ~icechat5@p549CBF8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1135482258 P * VooDooMaster 
1135482938 M * Cru bbl
1135482940 Q * Cru Quit: use Unices; $live->free() || die;
1135483068 J * ichigo ~m@203.81.205.100
1135483096 M * ichigo good morning all.
1135483102 M * ichigo happy xmas 
1135483715 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1135483829 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@acs-24-154-53-16.zoominternet.net
1135483916 M * Skram ichigo: in the UK?
1135484659 M * ichigo no asia
1135484677 M * Skram oh
1135484688 M * Skram in the usa its ~10:23PM
1135485925 M * ichigo Skram usa s on the other side of the world and about 12 hours diffrence. its 9;45 am here 25 december
1135485993 M * ichigo can any one tell me how to create a device nodes for my (us) scanner and (pci) tv card inside a guest.
1135487762 J * Spicerun ~Spicerun@ip70-191-162-198.fv.dl.cox.net
1135487780 P * Spicerun 
1135491716 Q * ichigo Read error: Connection reset by peer
1135492101 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1135493184 A * Hollow yawns
1135495070 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@acs-24-154-53-16.zoominternet.net
1135497773 M * Skram from vtop, how do i know which vserver is issueing the command/process?
1135499567 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-41-151.netcologne.de
1135499675 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135501545 Q * Johnnie Quit: G'bye!
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1135502625 J * Skeeve ~optik@carpediem.eintellego.net
1135507237 J * oliwel ~mail-at-o@host-62-245-151-178.customer.m-online.net
1135507260 M * oliwel merry XMAS alltogether...
1135510235 Q * oliwel Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]
1135510733 J * shedi ~siggi@213-140-22-77.fastres.net
1135511816 M * Psy0rz merry virtual xmas everyone :)
1135511854 M * matti Thanks.
1135516022 J * Woschak ~Woschak@83-169-157-250-dynip.superkabel.de
1135516028 M * Woschak hello
1135516033 Q * Woschak Quit: 
1135516043 J * Woschak ~Woschak@83-169-157-250-dynip.superkabel.de
1135516926 Q * DaCa Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5
1135517251 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org
1135517640 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1135517649 M * Bertl morning folks!
1135517730 M * Bertl Skram: ad vtop: get the pid and use vps (vtop is not context aware)
1135517752 M * Bertl hello Woschak!
1135517778 M * Bertl merry xmas Psy0rz!
1135517916 M * Woschak hello Bertl
1135517931 M * Woschak merry xmas for you :)
1135517944 M * Bertl tx, 4u2!
1135517953 M * Woschak .oO( or to you?) hm..., my english ... :-)
1135518008 M * Bertl you do not know somebody with a dual or 4 cpu machine he doesn't need over the holidays :)
1135518067 M * matti Bertl: romke has Xeon machine.
1135518091 M * matti Bertl: But, unfortunately not SMP IIRC :<
1135518094 M * matti Bertl: But, wait.
1135518098 M * Bertl hey matti! how are you?
1135518240 M * matti Bertl: Well... sucks as usual.
1135518264 A * michal_ hugs matti
1135518284 M * matti Oh my.
1135518318 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1135518322 M * Bertl matti: is the fever better?
1135518331 M * Bertl hey michal_! merry xmas!
1135518345 M * michal_ hey, thx :)
1135518358 M * matti Bertl: Yes, little better.
1135518381 M * Bertl michal_: got your email, didn't answer yet :/
1135518418 M * michal_ no problem, feel free to answer any time or even not :]
1135518454 M * matti michal_: Even in august? :)
1135518455 M * matti :)
1135518465 M * michal_ :
1135518468 M * michal_ P
1135519951 Q * meebey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135520154 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1135520160 M * Bertl wb meebey!
1135520169 M * meebey hiya Bertl 
1135520536 M * Bertl merry xmas meebey!
1135520734 M * meebey thx, same to you
1135521216 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection
1135521251 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@acs-24-154-53-16.zoominternet.net
1135521411 M * ag- Bertl: doesn't latest qemu support dual cpu?
1135522176 J * gooroo ~gooroo@gentoo.pl
1135522183 M * matti gooroo: :)
1135522189 M * gooroo matti: hi.
1135522234 M * matti Bertl: Ask gooroo about SMP machines, maybe he can help you. He is a very good friend of mine.
1135522300 M * gooroo an his language it's not so good, but.. maybe I can help :)
1135522365 M * gooroo So, last month I get few PowerEdges
1135522373 M * matti Bertl: Well, he also h've some interest in using vserver in his work, so - either way both of ya may help each other :)
1135523380 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135523942 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.25
1135524592 M * Bertl hmm, seems I got disconnected ...
1135524616 M * Bertl ag-: yes, not just dual up to 8 times, but it is a cruel hack (nevertheless very nice)
1135524650 M * Bertl hey gooroo! merry xmas!
1135524717 M * Bertl gooroo: so you plan to use linux-vserver and might want to help us testing new stuff?
1135525123 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US
1135525131 M * Bertl welcome FireEgl!
1135525137 M * FireEgl =D
1135525148 M * FireEgl Merry Christmas Bertl =)
1135525156 M * Bertl yeah, merry xmas 2u2!
1135525633 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-81-173-172-208.netcologne.de
1135525812 M * Bertl merry xmas dothebart!
1135525952 M * gooroo Bertl: Thnk's :) Best wishes!!
1135526007 M * gooroo Bertl: Yep! I going to set few dhcp servers on one phisical mashine.
1135526044 M * Bertl I'm interested in getting a new scheduler tested (or testing it myself)
1135526076 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135526078 M * derjohn hihio! I did stop a vsever which was bound to the primary IP of the host. unfortunately takinf down the primary seems to bring down all virtual IP, right assumption?  (i.e. I have to drive for a reboot l8etr)
1135526098 M * Bertl derjohn: yeah, a vanilla kernel feature ...
1135526108 M * derjohn cool feature ;)
1135526129 M * Bertl there are workarounds (and some simple ahcks) to avoid that
1135526149 M * derjohn any ideas around to prevent in utils that the primary IP is shot down with vserver foo stop
1135526150 M * derjohn ?
1135526193 M * Bertl well, first, the simplest approach: assign a dummy IP on the host
1135526209 M * derjohn a kludge ;)
1135526212 M * Bertl (if that is in the same network, it will become primary)
1135526223 M * Bertl derjohn: yes, but simple, no?
1135526249 M * Bertl derjohn: the second approach is to use /32 IPs (which are all primary but will not affect the host network
1135526254 M * derjohn Bertl, yes, true. in my casr it is out secondary  "everything", so I already used up all IPin that /29
1135526303 M * Bertl derjohn: and finally the 'right' solution is to use a very recent 2.6.14 or later? kernel
1135526309 M * derjohn Bertl, you mean if I set the secondary IPs to /32 they will be primary and "take over" if the real primay goes away?
1135526325 M * derjohn Bertl, it's fixed there? in 2.6.14+ ?
1135526329 M * Bertl and modify the tools to support one of the magic flags which disable this great feature
1135526340 M * Bertl (it is still default)
1135526363 M * derjohn hwo to set the better behaviour? in /proc ?
1135526380 M * Bertl no, actually it's an ioctl for the interfaces
1135526393 M * derjohn so, nothing for a bash lamer like me?
1135526394 M * Bertl I'm not sure there is actually userspace support there 
1135526431 M * Bertl network folks really love this 'feature' so they do not like to let go that easily :/
1135526458 M * derjohn like this,he? http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/Cheater_19655.html
1135526490 M * derjohn i mean .. at least the better one is around :)
1135526511 M * Bertl hmm ...
1135526555 M * Bertl .o( maybe I'm lucky that I don't have the appropriate plugin installed :)
1135526573 M * derjohn *lol*
1135526618 M * derjohn Bertl, time to upgrade to a real browser and some marrilat codec ;)
1135526652 M * Bertl .o( hmm, I could compile in aalib support ... :)
1135526655 M * Eyck yeah, time to start using links
1135526784 M * Bertl gooroo: so, are you interested in helping us here? and if, how could we proceed?
1135526846 M * gooroo Bertl: So, I have informed about vserver very shor time ago. 
1135526874 M * Bertl gooroo: no problem, what info do you need to get a picture?
1135526901 M * gooroo Bertl: I have good hardware platform.. 
1135526939 M * Bertl yeah, heard about the PowerEdges
1135526975 M * gooroo SO, I can try to set for You some mashine.
1135526987 M * Bertl that would be really great!
1135527016 M * Bertl gooroo: but we want this to be a win-win thing, so what can we do for you?
1135527055 M * gooroo You'r develp vserver!
1135527056 M * gooroo :)
1135527080 M * Bertl okay, I can do that :)
1135527167 M * Bertl derjohn: the magic word is 'alias promotion' (just looked it up in the kernel sources)
1135527214 M * Bertl derjohn: and you can set it via sysctl!!
1135527248 M * derjohn Bertl, ah, this lives in user country^W land ! cool, I'll try out !
1135527278 M * Bertl net.ipv4.conf.all.promote_secondaries = 0
1135527298 M * Bertl if you set that to 1, the secondaries should survive a primary down
1135527305 M * Bertl will psot it to the ML ...
1135527645 M * gooroo Bertl: In tuesday i going back to job. So, can prepare for You this mashine. What system You need?
1135527730 M * gooroo Bertl: In the fature maybe I will need some help with vserver. I will ask You, ok? :D
1135527802 M * Bertl gooroo: that's always okay :)
1135527833 M * Bertl gooroo: well, this machine has a remote console/control unit right?
1135527835 M * gooroo Bertl: If You tell me how can I help witch testing vserver.. i can do it.
1135527839 M * derjohn Bertl, added here: http://linux-vserver.org/some_hints_from_john (untested though)
1135527846 M * gooroo Bertl: Right.
1135527874 M * Bertl so it should be quite easy to set it up for testing (which might require resetting it and have access to serial console)
1135527878 M * derjohn btw, I can remove the hommingberger gepardenforelle now ;)
1135527953 J * sven12 ~sven@84-50-204-36-dsl.est.estpak.ee
1135527965 M * Bertl welcome sven12!
1135527997 M * sven12 Happy xmas,Bertl!
1135527998 M * Bertl gooroo: best setup for me would be a mandriva 2006 minimal install (with sshd, no graphical stuff or such things)
1135528008 M * Bertl sven12: an a merry xmas 2u2!
1135528014 M * Bertl *and
1135528021 M * sven12 Thanks for all the help this autumn!
1135528030 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1135528046 M * gooroo Bertl: ok, I will try to do it for You. In tuesday, ok?
1135528079 M * gooroo s/in/at ? :)
1135528080 M * Bertl gooroo: as soon as possible for you .. 
1135528142 M * Bertl gooroo: i.e. just let me know when something is ready or needs to be done
1135528262 M * gooroo OK, Now I testing vserver on my notebook :)
1135528271 M * derjohn gooroo, do you have mandriva at the fingertips? if not Bertl could send you some image i guess.
1135528288 M * Bertl yeah, sure, well, an url at least
1135528381 M * gooroo Bertl: Maybe give me url witch iso image witch version which You prefere. 
1135528428 M * Bertl gooroo: dvd or cd?
1135528432 Q * sven12 Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12
1135528437 M * gooroo Bertl: cd.
1135528455 M * Bertl ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/2006.0/i586/Mandriva-Linux-Free-2006-CD1.i586.iso
1135528465 M * Bertl (also CD2 and 3)
1135528482 M * Bertl maybe ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/2006.0/i586/Mandriva-Linux-Free-Mini-2006-CD.i586.iso is sufficient, but I didn't test that yet
1135528510 M * Bertl gooroo: those are x86 or x86_64 machines?
1135528542 M * gooroo Bertl: x86. Dual Xeon 3,06 GHz, 2 MB L2 Cache, 2GB RAM>
1135528548 M * Bertl excellent!
1135528590 M * gooroo ok, I getting iso. I have good peer witch icm.
1135528594 M * gooroo * with
1135528595 M * gooroo :)
1135528608 M * gooroo Sorry for my english. I must start some leasons.
1135528610 M * gooroo uhrr.
1135528618 M * Bertl k, there are some other mirrors in poland, so I can hint you a view more
1135528651 M * Bertl ps.pl task.gda.pl tuniv.szczecin.pl
1135528653 M * gooroo Bertl: No, It's good. 357.45K/s
1135528702 M * Bertl yeah, thought that the edu link might be a good one :)
1135528809 M * Bertl gooroo: and many thanks in advance!
1135528871 M * gooroo =)
1135529035 M * gooroo OK< bye for now! BBL.
1135529038 A * gooroo &
1135529043 M * Bertl cya!
1135529877 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner now .. back later!
1135529882 N * Bertl bertl_oO
1135530578 J * VooDooMaster ~icechat5@p549CC53E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1135532072 N * bertl_oO Bertl
1135532080 M * Bertl merry xmas VooDooMaster!
1135532975 M * dothebart Bertl: gracias, all the best to you too ;-)
1135533024 M * Bertl :)
1135534476 M * Bertl dhansen: merry xmas! btw, it would be great if we could get linux-vserver tested on Power5 (OpenPower and such)
1135534795 J * Ihg DAS@82-167-26-65.odsplus.com
1135534806 M * Bertl welcome Ihg! merry xmas!
1135534815 P * Ihg 
1135535624 J * meandtheshell ~itsmethem@85-124-38-9.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1135536334 M * Bertl welcome meandtheshell! merry xmas!
1135536359 M * meandtheshell Bertl: hi - merry xmas to you too ;)
1135539093 M * Eyck merry xmass!
1135539191 M * Bertl Eyck: a merry xmas to you!
1135539256 Q * VooDooMaster Quit: The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
1135541696 P * meandtheshell 
1135543943 M * Bertl okay off for now .. back later ...
1135543947 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1135544301 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-3-194.netcologne.de
1135544410 Q * Smutje_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135546273 Q * Woschak Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1135547260 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1135547577 Q * oDn|Aw` Quit: ( No, I did NOT crash !!! Just went to have a BEER or something )
1135548204 M * Loki|muh hrhr, nice quitmessage ;)
1135550387 M * SiD3WiNDR linux-vserver rocks. merry christmas all :)
1135552167 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1135552197 M * Bertl SiD3WiNDR: merry xmas 2u2!
1135552211 M * Bertl hey Loki|muh! merry xmas!
1135552350 M * Loki|muh merry xmas Bertl! :)
1135553156 A * michal_ looks at growing nmap -Xmas attack ;]
1135553226 M * matti michal_: 10 min ago.
1135553243 M * matti michal_: I loose EVERY partition on my HDD.
1135553253 M * matti michal_: Why?
1135553255 M * michal_ how could it be ?????!!!!
1135553266 M * matti michal_: Because I never have money for fucking UPS.
1135553289 M * matti I'll problably kill myself now.
1135553305 M * Bertl matti: hmm? you lost your partition table or what?
1135553306 M * michal_ what have you been doing while it had crashed ?
1135553316 M * michal_ btw, can be recovered probably
1135553321 M * matti Bertl: I've old IBM HDD.
1135553366 M * matti Bertl: Somethings happened, and I lost MBR, each PBR and HDD is filled by some random data.
1135553404 M * matti I check HDD by using some IBM Disk Fitness Test tool.
1135553409 M * matti And yes, Huston...
1135553415 M * matti We have errors.
1135553427 M * Bertl well, that is probably not critical ...
1135553427 M * matti And as I said, I'll probably kill myself now.
1135553439 M * Bertl no, please don't do that ...
1135553441 M * matti Bertl: Well, HDD is not working anymore :)
1135553456 A * matti using Gentoo Live CD right now.
1135553460 M * Bertl rule number one: keep cool!
1135553467 M * matti Bertl: Now I am cool.
1135553487 M * Bertl I'm doing data recovery from time to time, and I can tell you
1135553493 M * matti Like Klingons use to saying...
1135553501 M * matti "This is good day to die".
1135553503 M * matti :)
1135553506 M * Bertl 90% of the damage is done by the folks trying to recover data improperly
1135553519 M * Bertl make that 99%
1135553547 M * matti Bertl: Yes. But, this is almost impossible to recover journaled data.
1135553567 M * Bertl first, what happened and what did you do/try yet?
1135553583 M * Bertl (just to get an idea of how much damage you added :)
1135553599 M * matti Bertl: I lost power instantly.
1135553610 M * Bertl okay, fine
1135553626 M * Bertl it came back at some time, what then
1135553634 M * dothebart hm. vserver-copy won't work with my server...
1135553646 M * Bertl dothebart: don't use it! :)
1135553656 M * dothebart ok. ;)
1135553664 M * dothebart so it's deprecated?
1135553680 M * Bertl I guess so, at least it was never really updated
1135553680 M * matti Well, when I was working, I've 6 Mbps upload goin', 3 Mbps download, checking md5 and morever - compiling few packages.
1135553684 M * matti So.
1135553691 M * matti Oh, well...
1135553693 M * matti Heh.
1135553722 M * Bertl okay, after power came back, what did not work?
1135553770 M * Bertl dothebart: use c -va and either recreate the config as skeleton, or copy the config dir too, and then carefully correct the symlinks inside
1135553783 M * matti Bertl: HDD :)
1135553792 M * dothebart hm, i think i'll just recreate a bare one...
1135553800 M * Bertl matti: that's good, so the thing didn't even boot, right?
1135553805 M * matti Bertl: HDD is not detected by BIOS anymore.
1135553821 M * Bertl ah, okay, primary or secondary?
1135553822 M * matti Bertl: Strange noises comin' from 'em, etc, etc.
1135553832 M * matti Bertl: Cable select :)
1135553834 M * dothebart btw, why isn't cdebootstrap used? it seems to be less error prune in increasing time?
1135553865 M * michal_ it might be better it failed to boot in fact
1135553866 M * Bertl dothebart: no idea, maybe suggest that to enrico?
1135553870 M * FaUl *gaehn*
1135553880 M * Bertl merry xmas FaUl!
1135553882 M * dothebart hm, kk.
1135553885 M * michal_ at least you haven't mess recover
1135553892 M * FaUl Bertl: i'm not a christ, but thank you :-
1135553901 M * FaUl Bertl: how well is vserver tested on ultrasparc?
1135553910 M * Bertl FaUl: merry ?? then?
1135553924 M * michal_ matti: k, bios cannot see it, but who cares for recovering, linux can detect it i gues or is it so badly damaged ?
1135553928 M * FaUl Bertl: yes, in german it's called "wintersonnenwende" :-)
1135553940 M * matti michal_: No, he cannot either.
1135553950 M * FaUl i've no idea what it is in english anyway
1135553959 M * Bertl happy Beltane?
1135553983 M * dothebart beltane is done yet for this year.
1135553999 M * FaUl happy midwinter says dict.leo.org
1135554006 M * dothebart you mean samahin.
1135554018 M * michal_ matti: what can you hear ? working and spinning properly and sound as usual ?
1135554075 M * Bertl ah, right, samhain
1135554125 M * dothebart beltane is in may.
1135554147 M * dothebart samahin was on 22 th afaik.
1135554308 M * Bertl yeah, sorry, mixed that up ...
1135554405 M * matti :)
1135554446 M * dothebart my girlfriend uses the nick 'beltane' so she's famillar with all those dates... it just keeps pouring over ;-)