1134605244 M * ag- micah: did you clean the ugly patched old package? 1134605343 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1134605871 J * infowolfe jthm@66-230-115-37-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134606542 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-46-211.bulldogdsl.com 1134606674 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1134606686 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1134607613 J * marl ~matt@84.92.193.226 1134607640 J * mugwump_ ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1134607659 Q * mugwump Read error: Connection reset by peer 1134607725 M * marl hi 2 questions :) first one, is it posible to get ifconfig to show the ip address when inside a vserver? i have tons of scripts that get the ip from this command and its causing problems :( 1134607787 M * marl the other one is, does anyone know of a howto or such that gives information on running a router from INSIDE a vserver? e.g. have tyhe host system only accessable from local network, and have a vserver act as the router with public ip on eth0 and lan ip on eth1? 1134607815 M * mnemoc use ip from iproute2, not the old deprecated ifconfig 1134607836 M * marl problem is that requires changing all the scripts, a BIG task :( 1134607838 M * mnemoc you could do a sh wrapper :) 1134607847 M * mnemoc a fake ifconfig 1134607857 M * marl ok, hadnt thought of a wrapper, ill try and write one thanks :) 1134607868 M * mnemoc :) 1134607890 M * marl ok, anyone know of any pointers to the router inside a vserver? 1134607899 M * mnemoc i don't think it's a good idea to run a router inside a vserver 1134607920 M * marl how come? what kinda problems would i hit? 1134607990 M * mnemoc too many packages for your kernel which also have to handle packages for services on other hosts :) 1134608015 M * mnemoc why do you want to put a router there? 1134608049 M * marl i like the idea of being able to have a backup vserver that can be switched in place if required 1134608057 M * mnemoc the routing is done on kernel-space anyway, and configuration can be done from within using the right capabilities 1134608081 M * marl how do u meen to meny packages for the kernel? 1134608109 M * mnemoc network packages, connection, states,. .... i don't like to put services on router/firewalls :p 1134608126 M * marl u meen by grants caps to one vserver and granting it access to the iptables command? 1134608146 M * mnemoc yes, you can do that 1134608163 M * marl idea is to have several vservers, each one running a seperate service, e.g. mail and have one of the vservers routing trafics to the apropriate vserver and port 1134608184 M * mnemoc i use lvs on host 1134608202 M * mnemoc or on the real router 1134608207 M * marl the other thing with sticking the router within a vserver, is i can totaly block access to the host from any users who have access to change firewall settings etc. 1134608261 M * marl dsont lvs require setting/changing the config files on the host system any time anthing changes? 1134608279 M * marl i had thought of putting the main part of the host system onto readonly media 1134608281 M * mnemoc lvs on host, not on a guest 1134608304 M * marl ok, ill have to go and read up on lvs, its been a while since i looked at it 1134608359 M * marl thanks very much :) 1134608410 M * mnemoc good luck ,-) 1134608523 M * mnemoc btw, may choice was ipvs/keepalived 1134608560 M * mnemoc and pound for web on some cases 1134608818 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1134608827 M * Bertl good morning? 1134608951 M * mnemoc moin Bertl! 1134609393 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1134609434 Q * FireEgl arion.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1134609434 Q * aba arion.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1134609497 M * marl ok, another one for you :), should the kernel patch patch-2.6.14.3-vs2.01.diff patch a 2.6.9 kernel? im asking first before i download the sources :) 1134609517 M * Bertl no, not really :) 1134609536 M * Bertl why would you want to patch such an old kernel? 1134609539 M * marl is there any way to get patches for the 2.6.9? 1134609548 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US 1134609548 J * aba ~aba@eos.turmzimmer.net 1134609560 M * Bertl yes, but not a recent one ... 1134609579 M * Bertl (unless you have a _really_ good argument :) 1134609592 M * daniel_hozac i'm guessing it'll have enterprise in it :) 1134609642 M * marl ive just patched a new one, using make oldconfig, and some functions apear to have not gone through :( im trying to find out if there where patches applied against the kernel i was using (the config file i have) but havnt got an answer yet, 1134609688 M * marl just thought id ask in here about patching the kernel i know works with the software, to see if it is posible, but if not then ill try again and recompile whaqt i have 1134609737 M * daniel_hozac what functions? what software? 1134609775 M * Bertl marl: it's very likely that you are missing a few essential options 1134609791 M * Bertl marl: for example, IIRC, the IDE stuff was slighly restructured 1134609806 M * Bertl marl: so it might be that you are missing IDE_DISK support for example 1134609811 M * Bertl marl: is that what you mean? 1134609828 M * marl im using a router distro, and after compiling the new kernel, i was getting some errors, about firewall settings etc. 1134609854 M * marl can i check that config options for vserver in .config should all contain 'vserver' in them? 1134609866 M * daniel_hozac patch-o-matic? 1134609878 M * marl patch-o-matic? 1134609895 M * Bertl marl: yes, except for a few exceptions, like the VROOT and MEMORY split 1134609904 M * daniel_hozac netfilter+iptables patches. 1134609920 M * marl ah that might be it 1134610059 M * marl ok, im going to go and check some settings and see what i can do 1134610083 M * marl thanks again, i know sometimes my questions sound daft, but u never find out things unless u ask :) 1134610154 M * Bertl see topic, and you're welcome! 1134611625 J * jeeves ~jeeves@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1134611639 M * Bertl welcome jeeves! 1134611646 M * jeeves yo 1134611668 M * jeeves 'nother question. Do they end? 1134611670 M * jeeves ok 1134611681 M * jeeves nvidia 1134611682 M * jeeves ? 1134611731 M * jeeves If I download the source for the vanilla kernel, can I compile the nvidia driver for it and might it work? 1134611769 M * daniel_hozac don't the nvidia modules build against the current kernel automatically? 1134611821 M * jeeves I use the binary installer that nvidia provides 1134611832 M * jeeves and got an error saying I need the right kernel 1134611849 M * daniel_hozac doesn't it proceed to compiling the modules after that? 1134611861 A * daniel_hozac hasn't used nvidia drivers for a long time. 1134611880 M * Bertl tried once, didn't work with the ATI radeon :) 1134611902 M * jeeves lol. nvidia - ati 1134611925 M * Bertl jeeves: they should work unless they are absolutely broken .. that said, we don't know ... 1134611980 M * jeeves lol. 1134612135 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1134612197 M * daniel_hozac which nvidia drivers, btw? network or graphics? 1134612224 M * jeeves graphics 1134612242 M * jeeves I would like to have my dual monitors back. 1134612269 M * Bertl hmm, Xinerama is better than TwinView imho :) 1134612296 M * Bertl jeeves: did you try the nvidia driver (kernel/xorg) 1134612324 M * Bertl except for the missing gl support they are great! 1134612452 M * jeeves what is xinerama? 1134612467 M * Bertl multi screen support 1134612487 M * jeeves both hooked up to the nvidia card 1134612489 M * jeeves ? 1134612495 M * Bertl yep, for example 1134612504 M * Bertl or across different cards 1134612538 M * Bertl I have a setup with an intel and a matrox card for example 1134612568 M * Bertl and on my powerbook it's the internal tft and external vga 1134612580 M * jeeves I just grabbed the kernel-2.6.14-1.1650_FC4.vs2.0.1.0.rc5.2.src.rpm 1134612597 M * daniel_hozac why? 1134612612 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1134612616 M * daniel_hozac kernel-{,smp-}devel should have everything needed for building modules. 1134612621 M * daniel_hozac unless they're horribly broken. 1134612635 M * jeeves to us the nvidia bin. I am also googling xinerama 1134612799 M * Bertl welcome Loki|muh! 1134612817 M * Bertl jeeves: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/ 1134613137 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-022.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1134613382 M * jeeves does the automagic config work? 1134613465 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 481 seconds 1134613530 M * jeeves well, I will get that working some other time. I am usually vnc'ed into my computer from work, or a laptop 1134613560 M * jeeves I need to figure out how to maximize the vserver I just got going. 1134613564 M * jeeves This rocks 1134613579 M * Bertl sure it does :) 1134614030 M * jeeves how many do you have going, and what do you use them for? 1134614191 M * Bertl well, all the 13thfloor locations are guests, and the linux-vserver pages too of course 1134614271 M * jeeves I read about 13thfloor from a link somewhere. 1134614601 M * jeeves well, the wife and I are going to walk the dogs. Have a good night. 1134614608 Q * jeeves Quit: Leaving 1134614646 Q * meebey Ping timeout: 481 seconds 1134614648 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1134614877 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134614983 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1134615060 Q * JViz Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134615382 Q * meebey Remote host closed the connection 1134615872 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1134616380 J * Loki_muh loki@satanix.de 1134616428 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1134617089 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134617715 M * Bertl http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ (maybe worth looking at for host systems?) 1134618099 M * matti I use this one on my HDD less laptop. 1134618128 M * matti Works almost perfectly with 128 MB of RAM (even if you copy all CD data to RAM). 1134618131 M * matti :) 1134618186 J * infowolfe infowolfe@66-230-115-37-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134618247 J * mef_ ~mef@pcp09872021pcs.ewndsr01.nj.comcast.net 1134618255 M * mef_ yo 1134618364 M * Bertl hey mef_! 1134618443 M * Bertl hey matti! how are you? 1134618454 M * Bertl welcome infowolfe! 1134619885 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134620653 M * matti Bertl: Hi, so-so. 1134620662 M * matti Bertl: Been better :) 1134620697 M * Bertl will get better too ... 1134620783 M * matti Yeah, someday will... 1134620974 J * infowolfe jthm@66-230-115-37-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134621026 M * Bertl wb infowolfe! 1134621503 M * Bertl night folks! I'm off to bed now ... 1134621511 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1134621934 M * matti Night Bertl. 1134622627 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134623094 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@66-230-115-37-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134623105 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer 1134623388 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@66-230-115-37-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134627169 Q * Roey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134629499 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-1-176.netcologne.de 1134629605 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134630647 Q * Smutje_ Quit: leaving 1134631334 Q * lilo Quit: 1134631668 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1134632441 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-184-166.netcologne.de 1134639021 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1134640092 J * Ben81 ~Ben81@tipi0e.lri.fr 1134640845 Q * cdrx Remote host closed the connection 1134641083 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1134641094 J * legoater_ ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1134641102 Q * legoater_ Quit: 1134641102 Q * cdrx Quit: 1134641120 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1134642434 Q * glut Quit: leaving 1134643885 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving 1134644045 Q * marl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134644274 J * marl ~matt@84.92.193.226 1134645369 P * jayeola 1134649358 J * night ~night@p54A32747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1134649372 M * night hi everyone 1134649465 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1134649673 M * night is there a way to make the kernel swap out a vsevers memory pages once it hits the rss limit? 1134649827 M * night and, if that is not possible, does it make sense to limit address space and resident set size at the same time? 1134649860 M * night because then a process can have a big address space but will get problems once it starts using them 1134651310 M * night anyone out there? =) 1134652221 P * mef_ 1134652240 J * mep__ mep@p5091B5F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1134652679 Q * mep_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134654867 Q * TheSeer Remote host closed the connection 1134655026 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1134655037 M * Bertl morning folks! 1134655071 M * Bertl night: not yet, that is something which will be addressed by the soft limits in the future 1134655188 M * Bertl okay off for breakfast .. back later ... 1134655198 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1134655446 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1134656134 Q * night Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134656282 J * night ~night@p54A32747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1134657310 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1134657664 J * jeeves ~jeeves@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1134657681 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1134657687 M * Bertl back now ... 1134658001 M * jeeves wb 1134658095 M * jeeves I just learned a lesson on cheap wireless routers. I need to reset the thing once a day. 1134658108 M * night thanks for your response, Bertl 1134658128 M * night i'm the same guy that notices vserver-stat doesnt seem to be accurate 1134658191 M * night been investigating a bit, and it seems on vservers using nptl the values do add up, but on vservers not using it they dont 1134658672 M * Bertl interesting ... 1134658690 M * Bertl I wonder, shouldn't all recent kernels use NPTL by now? 1134658702 M * Bertl (not necessarily userspace support) 1134658811 M * night its on a 2.6 kernel, i think nptl was included since something like 2.5.3x 1134658887 M * Bertl yeah, so .. where do you see non-nptl vservers? 1134658907 M * Bertl are those guests copied from 2.4 machines/distros? 1134658937 M * night well gentoo doesnt use it by default, only if you explicitly activate it 1134658959 M * night nope they are gentoo stages and a debian sarge 1134658999 M * Bertl interesting ... what if you use ps inside the guest to list all threads/tasks and sum that up? do you get the same values? 1134659071 M * night yes same as vps on the host 1134659170 J * jeeves_ ~jeeves@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1134659170 Q * jeeves Read error: Connection reset by peer 1134659171 M * night on the nptl-system there are many lines like this in ps aux: 1134659186 M * night mysql 16645 0.0 9.8 89776 25764 ? S Dec11 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld 1134659186 M * night mysql 16646 0.0 9.8 89776 25764 ? S Dec11 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld 1134659188 M * night for mysql, e.g. 1134659217 M * night but the kernel counts these only once for rss and vm 1134659237 M * Bertl yes, because they are shared 1134659247 M * night on the nptl-system, however: 1134659253 M * night www-data 1402 0.0 2.4 27448 15620 ? S 15:57 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache 1134659253 M * night www-data 1403 0.0 2.4 27448 15620 ? S 15:57 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache 1134659267 M * night the kernel counts these separaltly 1134659282 M * night so vserver-stat and /proc/virtual/xx/limit concur 1134659289 M * Bertl on the non-nptl system, you mean, right? 1134659293 M * night yes 1134659303 M * Bertl okay, yes sounds reasonable 1134659318 M * Bertl the non-nptl has to create a separate task (threads are not an option) 1134659345 M * Bertl the vserver-stat always just sums up the processes (regardless of tasks or threads) 1134659357 M * matti http://www.maxior.pl/?p=index&id=6725&0 ROTFL 1134659358 M * matti ;] 1134659361 M * night wait, i mixed it up, the first example was for the non-nptl system and the second one for the nptl-enabled one 1134659487 M * Bertl hmm, now I'm confused :) 1134659655 M * Bertl IMHO nptl is supposed to provide an interface for threading 1134659675 M * Bertl so, I'd expect the nptl aware system to use threads, which will share a lot of memory 1134659721 M * Bertl OTOH, the ps should also list those threads, so I'd further expect vserver-stat to report higher values than the kernel 1134659755 M * Bertl on a non nptl aware guest, the apps have to create cooperating tasks, which in turn will all use their own memory 1134659781 M * Bertl so I'd expect the vserver-stat to give similar values than the kernel accounts 1134660257 M * night is there a way to distinguish between threads and processes with ps? 1134660309 M * Bertl yes, there should be ... sec 1134660337 M * Bertl -m show threads 1134660649 M * night ah so by default it omits nptl-threads but shows non-nptl-threads 1134660727 M * night which seems to lead to the strange display of memory usage 1134661179 M * night so that's solved 1134661189 M * Bertl excellent! 1134661317 M * night hmm, I would really appreciate these soft memory limits =) 1134661344 J * Doener doener@i5387F6D7.versanet.de 1134661395 M * Bertl welcome Doener! 1134661405 M * Doener hi Bertl! 1134663016 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1134663058 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1134663112 M * Bertl morning cdrx! 1134664611 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1134664858 M * Bertl morning stefani! 1134665087 M * stefani hloa Bertl 1134665835 Q * Ben81 Quit: Leaving 1134665994 J * mikeb ~baptiste@tigger.msbnetworks.net 1134666184 M * Bertl welcome mikeb! 1134666200 M * cdrx morning Bertl, (it's evening for me :) 1134666276 J * Doener doener@i5387F6D7.versanet.de 1134666287 M * mikeb Morning Bertl! 1134666298 M * mikeb I come seeking advice like all... 1134666300 M * mikeb Has anyone had any luck with mailman in a vserver? I've got 2.0rc4 (yes I need to upgrade) running a variety of services in 10 vservers and have had little trouble getting them going. But mailman is driving me nuts. Whenever I access the mailman URLs, I get a python shared memory error: ImportError: /usr/lib64/python2.3/lib-dynload/shamodule.so: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory I've been googleing all morning tryi 1134666300 M * mikeb ng to find some info though including mailman in a google search (with it in most list footers) hasn't helped much. Is there a BCap I'm missing? This is python 2.3.3 (the vservers are Fedora 2 right now) 1134666349 M * Bertl could be that it requires an additinal bcap 1134666354 M * Bertl *additional 1134666363 M * mikeb I've seen this in Mailman 2.1.5 and 2.1.6. I didn't think it was bcap related since other apps like apache used shared memory and never complained (as far as I know) 1134666373 M * Bertl which kernel version do you use? 1134666388 M * mikeb I've looked at the bcap list trying to find one related to allocating memory - hadn't seen anything that jumepd out at me 1134666392 M * mikeb 2.6.11-11 1134666407 A * mikeb has 2.6.14 VServ 2.01 upgrade on 'the list' :) 1134666415 M * Bertl well, first, I'd advise to upgrade 1134666431 M * mikeb k 1134666437 M * mikeb THat was my next step 1134666438 M * Bertl then, check with the CAP_IPC_LOCK and maybe CAP_IPC_OWNER 1134666444 M * mikeb just figured I"d see if anyone had seen somethign like this 1134666457 M * mikeb OK - will do. 1134666514 M * Bertl in any case, an strace -fF could provide further clues 1134667255 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back in the evening ... 1134667260 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1134674425 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-61-3.netcologne.de 1134674535 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134675030 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1134675117 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134675183 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1134675572 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1134678288 J * sebi_ ~sebi@Fd051.f.strato-dslnet.de 1134678396 Q * sebi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134678772 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1134678872 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.109 1134678880 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-047.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1134678979 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134678979 N * menomc mnemoc 1134680695 J * infowolfe_ infowolfe@66-230-115-37-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134681081 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134681291 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1134681563 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE0013109a586e-CM00137186e53a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1134682666 M * dos000 so many ppl lately 1134682753 M * mnemoc attractive project :) 1134682798 M * dos000 only thing missing is a ... web interface. That would be a killer 1134682837 M * mnemoc openvps does it 1134682842 M * dos000 is it possible to have loopback interface yet ? 1134682857 M * mnemoc no 1134682880 M * mnemoc use unix sockets if you need privacy ,-) 1134683411 Q * jeeves_ Quit: Leaving 1134683447 Q * night Quit: Leaving 1134683465 M * dos000 mnemoc, is bind broken in a vserver because of no loopback ? 1134683528 M * mnemoc bind needs to be built with capabilities hackery disabled, or run on a guest with extra capabilities 1134683559 M * mnemoc some people think bind is broken per se 1134683604 M * dos000 i read this a while and just cant remember why it was 1134683613 M * mnemoc building it with "--disable-linux-caps" solves the main issue 1134683647 M * mnemoc dos000: bloat by design, bad idea. djbdns is much better :) 1134683739 M * mnemoc some people would suggest you to avoid ISC software as much as you can ,-) 1134683782 M * dos000 mnemoc, ha ... 1134683862 M * dos000 mnemoc, i have a server in a dc that i give vserver hosts to friends. my next step (after i get some time) was to do vhcs which needs bind (i think). 1134683900 M * dos000 any difference between djbdns and bind at all in that regard ? 1134683938 M * mnemoc the only similarity is that both handle DNS services :) 1134684119 M * micah http://lwn.net/Articles/163975/ 1134684179 M * dos000 mnemoc, unfortunately vhcs seems to require bind9 :-( 1134684377 M * mnemoc c'est la vie 1134684600 M * Doener mnemoc: some folks would also suggest to avoid djb's universe like hell ;) 1134684636 M * mnemoc Doener: there is software for every taste :) 1134684673 M * Doener right :) for completeness: i'm with powerdns here. ;) 1134684691 M * mnemoc hehe 1134684754 M * daniel_hozac i've been meaning to switch away from bind for a while... how do you configure pdns? 1134684782 M * mnemoc pdns is multi-backend.... thats nice 1134684790 M * Doener pdns has several possible backends. i know for sure that there's MySQL, Postgres and Oracle support. as well as a recursor backend 1134684808 M * mnemoc don't forget ldap 1134684820 M * Doener IIRC there's some zone2sql script to convert bind zones 1134684826 M * Doener ah, right, of course ;) 1134684854 M * daniel_hozac no plain file support? 1134684872 M * mnemoc djndns has cool plain file support :) 1134684895 M * mnemoc but you can use bind zone files on pdns too 1134684900 M * daniel_hozac pdns seems self-contained. djbdns requires all sorts of crap i'd have to package. ;) 1134684923 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: my init (runit) implement all that sort of crap :) 1134684964 M * Doener http://rtfm.powerdns.com/bindbackend.html 1134685040 M * mnemoc .oO( oh, ldap2dns was adopted by a new maintainer )o 1134685367 J * Klaus_ ~klaus@c-5a0671d5.08-10-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1134686270 J * knjhbgvfcdxsza ~mjb@host-138-38-231-158.nat.bath.ac.uk 1134686303 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza Has Bertl been and left or not turned up yet tonight? 1134686434 M * Doener he left 5 hours ago and said he'd return in the evening... don't know his current tz though 1134686447 M * daniel_hozac [18:20] okay, off for now .. back in the evening ... 1134686447 M * daniel_hozac [18:21] --- Bertl is now known as Bertl_oO 1134686477 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza OK - I'll lurk as it should be a quick question 1134686557 M * Doener well, you could try asking "the channel" ;) 1134686581 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza Sure. 1134686614 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza I owe Bertl a favour - I said I'd repay him by testing vserver on a number of the more obscure architectures. 1134686641 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza I wondered how bothered he / anyone else was about sparc32 1134686660 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza I had rehomed my sparc32 boxen but I've just been offered a SPARC classic... 1134686763 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza I should have got this done by now... real life(tm) intervened :-\ 1134686792 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza FWIW I'm definately doing sparc64, MIPS and probably ppc32 1134686813 M * Doener hm, not sure about the sparc status, IIRC someone was talking to Bertl about testing on sparc some time ago (2 months?) but my real life also intervened channel appearance short after... 1134686822 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza Hardware for alpha, arm, pa-risc and m68k is still 'on route' 1134686860 M * Doener hppa was tested lately by someone on the ml 1134686861 M * Klaus_ can i use the ip that my eth1 gets from my isp on a vserver when the ip is dynmanic? 1134686864 M * knjhbgvfcdxsza I owe him a favour as he helped get vserver 1.3 (IIRC) working on sparc64 1134686871 M * daniel_hozac IIRC Bertl has access to ppc32 and hppa. 1134686910 M * daniel_hozac Klaus_: you could do that, or just give the vserver a private IP and NAT it. 1134686950 M * Klaus_ i where hoping not to do that 1134687055 M * Klaus_ where do i control where the vserver rsyncs from when i builds a server? 1134687089 M * daniel_hozac that depends on how you build it. 1134687090 M * Doener rsync? gentoo? 1134687110 M * Klaus_ humm 1134687111 M * Klaus_ file has vanished: "/var/lock/LCK...4078" 1134687111 M * Klaus_ rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(702) 1134687117 M * Klaus_ no im using ubuntu 1134687153 M * Doener humm... did the build methods change? i've never seen the tools using rsync 1134687159 M * daniel_hozac me neither. 1134687167 M * Klaus_ humm 1134687175 M * Klaus_ better try reading some more 1134687177 M * Klaus_ aha 1134687189 M * Klaus_ guess its the ubuntu pacakte im using. 1134687216 M * Doener let's try this way around: how do you build the vserver? 1134687289 M * Klaus_ lets take that a bit later :) 1134687594 M * Klaus_ humm years ago when i last time did run vserver there where some basic systems just to download if you liked to run some other then the default system 1134687939 M * Doener http://debian.marlow.dk/vserver/guest/ 1134687943 M * Doener http://www.lycos-vds.com/dists/ 1134687986 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1134688001 M * Klaus_ yes 1134688022 M * daniel_hozac of course, debian guests are probably the easiest one to build yourself with the debootstrap method. 1134688513 J * infowolfe__ infowolfe@66-230-102-182-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134688561 Q * infowolfe_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds