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1134260007 J * infowolfe_ jthm@66-230-110-98-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net
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1134260103 J * mugwump ~samv@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
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1134260806 M * Doener daniel_hozac: hm, wasn't there an issue with resolving dynamic xids, too? maybe that was fixed ages ago, but IIRC there was one...
1134261032 M * daniel_hozac Doener: i can't remember... isn't that what run.rev is for though?
1134261056 P * click [IRSSI]
1134261670 M * Doener yep, that is it, but i think it had a bug some time ago... and according to the info given by anarcat, he isn't using a legacy config
1134261682 J * infowolfe jthm@66-230-110-98-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net
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1134262377 M * daniel_hozac indeed, i was confusing bugs :)
1134263610 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1134263931 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-215.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1134265938 J * click click@ti511110a080-1415.bb.online.no
1134266896 J * mep_ mep@p509194D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
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1134274774 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
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1134275818 J * sebi ~sebi@Fd67a.f.strato-dslnet.de
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1134276044 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1134276047 M * Bertl evening folks!
1134276104 M * matti Hello Bertl.
1134276118 M * matti There's a 6 AM, not sleep?
1134276146 M * Bertl it's almost midnight here :)
1134276169 M * matti You're not in Austria?
1134276193 M * Bertl nope, Princeton, NJ still
1134276215 M * matti USA?
1134276220 M * Bertl right
1134276246 M * matti Sorry then... :<
1134276322 M * Bertl nothing to be sorry about :)
1134276340 M * Bertl I would probably be up in austria too ...
1134276383 M * matti Can I ask, whay you wisit the USA? :)
1134276390 M * matti s/whay/why/
1134276397 M * matti s/wisit/visit/
1134276400 M * matti Heh, I am tired.
1134276404 M * matti Sorry for typos.
1134276406 M * Bertl sure, I'm here because the Planetlab folks invited me
1134276430 M * matti Oh.
1134276439 M * matti Having work? Fun?
1134276440 M * matti :)
1134276446 M * Bertl they are using linux-vserver and are interested in serious cooperation
1134276472 M * Bertl so we are sitting together here and talking about future directions
1134276516 M * Bertl and as it's always _fun_ to _work_ on linux-vserver, it is both :)
1134276566 M * Bertl btw, was looking for a postcard for you today ... but didn't find one in NYC (at least not one with santa on it :)
1134276575 M * matti I see. Oh well... Sorry for interrupt. Have a good time there! :)
1134276596 A * matti is a bit depressed and probably goes to sleep... ;/
1134276619 M * Bertl hmm, why depressed?
1134276721 M * matti Huh, I've some issues with my life... Well, I am broke and jobless now. Shit happens.
1134276748 M * Bertl hmm, how did that happen? wanna talk about it?
1134276856 M * matti Well, heh. I don't know, sorry... ;/
1134276989 M * Bertl you don't know how it happened? or you don't know if you want to talk about it?
1134276992 M * matti Bertl: But, the worst thing is, that I am not really sure what should I do with myself now. Heh.
1134277038 M * Bertl as you said, shit happens and life goes on ... and sometimes it really helps to talk to friends, no?
1134277124 M * matti :)
1134278569 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-46-211.bulldogdsl.com
1134278572 M * jayeola hey chaps
1134278638 M * Bertl evening jayeola!
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1134278688 M * jayeola um, i'm looking for docs for vshelper and vsomething
1134278694 M * jayeola any urls?
1134278699 M * jayeola ;)
1134278884 M * Bertl hmm, what kind of docu are you looking for?
1134278904 M * Bertl thing is, the vshelper is something like the hotplug agent
1134278918 M * Bertl (so you can put anything there)
1134278931 M * jayeola
1134279029 M * Bertl regarding vsomething (who the hell implemented that one *G*)
1134279041 J * gerrit ~gerrit@adsl-69-227-23-200.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net
1134279117 M * Bertl welcome gerrit!
1134279307 M * gerrit hi bertl!
1134279558 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-187-134.netcologne.de
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1134285035 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1134286499 M * Bertl off to bed now ... back tomorrow! have fun!
1134286504 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1134291779 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US
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1134299937 J * StainLess StainLess@203.81.231.220
1134299973 M * StainLess i wanted to ask if Vserver runs on Centos
1134300975 M * Hollow StainLess: http://linux-vserver.org/CentOS_HowTo
1134301102 M * StainLess can we install A guest fedora on a Centos host?
1134301117 M * Hollow sure
1134301730 J * drcode ~user1@87.69.59.186.cable.012.net.il
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1134303766 Q * Medivh jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * andrew_ jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * Bertl_zZ jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * meebey jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * SiD3WiNDR jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * ComplexHo jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * jkl jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * SNy jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * virtuoso jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1134303766 Q * micah jupiter.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
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1134303779 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1134303798 J * ComplexHo ~ComplexHo@cpc1-brig3-6-0-cust194.brig.cable.ntl.com
1134303822 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu
1134303822 J * andrew_ ~andrew@tnlug.linux.org.tw
1134303837 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de
1134303847 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1134303869 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1134303891 J * SNy 5bf84f8bef@bmx-chemnitz.de
1134304102 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52
1134304681 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1134305671 M * Kara_ lo
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1134310614 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1134310818 J * jkl eric@c-67-173-248-142.hsd1.co.comcast.net
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1134324263 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1134324290 M * Bertl morning folks!
1134325027 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1134325218 M * daniel_hozac morning!
1134325573 M * Hollow olla
1134325629 M * Bertl hey Hollow! how are you?
1134325740 M * Hollow heya Bertl, fine so far, we're getting somewhere with our gentoo vps project
1134325763 M * Bertl excellent! have you thought about FreeVPS support, btw?
1134325795 M * Hollow i took a quick look at it, the kernel patches seem quite specific to rpm or suse, i don't remember... but i didn't try yet
1134325809 M * Hollow s/rpm/redhat/
1134325831 M * Bertl well, maybe Alexey is interested in havin gentoo support and might update his kernels?
1134325892 M * Hollow yeah, i'd love to see more vps projects supported by gentoo
1134325901 M * Bertl would be nice to have a distro to compare all of the app level virtualizations
1134325908 M * Hollow but i doubt i can manage 3 implementations at once ;) so some help would be appreciated
1134325939 M * Bertl well, I guess it really depends on psoft and if they are interested
1134325952 M * Bertl if they are, they probably have some resources to spare
1134325961 M * Hollow Bertl: apropos.. i thought about making some comparision chart between different vps, especially wrt the ml thread
1134325985 M * Hollow already talked to kir about that
1134326003 M * Bertl good idea!
1134326005 M * Hollow we probably need to find out what to compare and discuss about it some day
1134326020 M * Hollow so, if have any ideas..
1134326045 M * Hollow Bertl: btw, in case you don't know: http://dev.croup.de/proj/gentoo-vps
1134326051 M * Bertl I guess one goal should be to compare appples with apples
1134326063 M * Hollow yeah, that would be a good start :)
1134326091 M * Bertl so probably the comparisons should a) include all 3(4?) implementations
1134326109 M * Hollow 4?
1134326109 M * Bertl linux-vserver, freevps, ovz, (virtuozzo)
1134326113 M * Hollow ah, ic
1134326558 J * Doener doener@i5387D48D.versanet.de
1134326564 M * Doener hi!
1134326578 M * Bertl evening Doener!
1134326588 M * Bertl Doener: tx for the aptch!
1134326608 M * Doener yw! any comments? had no better idea for moving the checks around
1134326673 M * Bertl looks fine to me
1134326685 M * Doener ok
1134327036 M * Bertl Doener: how is your flat? everything fine by now?
1134327209 M * Doener we still need some furniture to put the tv and stereo and stuff in and my gf was a litle sad that i've been working so much lately (exam and some paid programming), but i guess we'll manage to sort that out soon
1134327263 M * Doener otherwise everything's fine, i can say that we made a good choice :)
1134327265 M * Bertl good, make sure to set your priorities right :)
1134327302 M * Doener how's your stay in the US?
1134327552 M * Doener got to go, gf wants to be picked up at the train station and we'll probably go out for dinner right after that... back in a few hours
1134327776 M * Bertl k, have fun!
1134328426 J * tomas tomas@twin.jikos.cz
1134328595 M * tomas hi guys, I would like to boot guest from another place than /vservers/
1134328605 M * Bertl welcome tomas!
1134328613 M * tomas is it possible to symlink it or something?
1134328624 M * Bertl should not be too hard, you ahve a bunch of options there
1134328642 M * Bertl a) --bind mount the guest there
1134328656 M * Bertl b) change the rootdir (at guest creation)
1134328670 M * Bertl c) change the symlinks in the config tree
1134328689 M * Bertl but make sure to set the barrier properly
1134328768 M * tomas thanks I'll try in a moment :)
1134329186 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US.TO
1134329500 M * Bertl wb FireEgl!
1134329563 M * tomas btw is there any comparison to openVZ? (couldn't find any at wiki)
1134329633 M * Hollow heh
1134329703 M * Hollow tomas: http://phpfi.com/91367
1134329862 M * tomas Hollow: :)) these things happen
1134329872 M * Hollow yeah :)
1134329932 M * Hollow tomas: you can also look in the mailing list archives, there is a thread vserver vs. openvz, starting Dec 6
1134330123 M * tomas ehm I have encountered another problem :(, is it possible to build guest without any -m method? I need only to get the config files, my guest is already installed in a directory
1134330186 M * Hollow tomas: use skeleton method, and move the dir with your guest files before, because util-vserver will complain if the dir exists
1134330193 M * Hollow you can move it back afterwards
1134330262 M * Pazzo Hi Bertl, hi all!
1134330310 M * Pazzo Bertl: "but make sure to set the barrier properly" <- is there still a barrier to be set in 2.6vs2.0?
1134330596 J * rosori ~ri@62.162.232.26
1134331059 Q * rosori Quit:
1134331357 M * Bertl hey Pazzo!
1134331399 M * Bertl Pazzo: well, although the --rbind takes care of the chroot escape in 2.6, it won#t hurt to have the barrier in place (and for legacy guests, it's still required)
1134332582 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-226.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1134333623 M * Bertl welcome Aiken!
1134333685 M * Aiken just started my 1st 2.6.14.3-vs2.1.0-rc10 machine
1134333727 M * Bertl great! you might consider Doener's 10.1 patch
1134333747 M * Bertl (the sendfile fix I missed somehow)
1134334277 M * Aiken I am going to have to ask which patch
1134334306 M * daniel_hozac http://www.13thfloor.at/~doener/vserver/patches/diff-2.6.14.3-vs2.1.0-rc10-rc10.1.diff
1134334374 M * Bertl tx daniel!
1134334409 M * Bertl okay, off for a little .. back soon (have to work on the release :)
1134334420 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1134334490 M * Aiken I was looking in http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/
1134334858 N * Smutje_ Smutje
1134335259 Q * ddlp Remote host closed the connection
1134337146 M * SiD3WiNDR damn
1134337161 M * SiD3WiNDR you mean I have to recompile the kernel I baked this afternoon :/
1134337306 M * Doener SiD3WiNDR: shouldn't take long... maybe a minute on a slow box i guess
1134337319 M * SiD3WiNDR hmm
1134337319 M * daniel_hozac that's assuming you keep your kernel source trees ;)
1134337331 M * SiD3WiNDR I haven't booted it yet
1134337338 M * SiD3WiNDR hehe
1134337346 M * SiD3WiNDR the machine is still cpio'ing some data in knoppix
1134337348 M * Doener daniel_hozac: well, yes... but who doesn't? ;)
1134337353 M * SiD3WiNDR yea, who doesn't
1134337356 M * daniel_hozac i don't ;)
1134337362 M * SiD3WiNDR it slows cpio down immensely :/
1134337363 M * daniel_hozac i build all my kernels in build roots.
1134337377 M * daniel_hozac generated per-build.
1134337498 M * Doener by now, i could stand a full recompile, but back then, it took way too long, so i started to keep all trees... (well and because Bertl suggested doing so to track down issues quickly ;)
1134341467 M * Pazzo re
1134341472 M * Pazzo thnx Bertl!
1134342782 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1134342791 M * Bertl Pazzo: you're welcome! :)
1134343427 J * comfrey ~comfrey@h-64-105-87-234.sttnwaho.covad.net
1134343939 M * Bertl welcome comfrey!
1134344046 M * mep_ how can i set the stadard ip of a vserver
1134344055 M * mep_ so which he should use fpr ssh for example
1134344070 M * Bertl hmm?
1134344083 M * mep_ i got a vserver with multiple ips
1134344087 M * Bertl ssh or sshd? in or outgoing?
1134344093 M * mep_ but he don't take eth0:1
1134344097 M * mep_ ssh
1134344111 M * mep_ it takes eth0:2
1134344125 M * Bertl so you ssh _from_ the guest _to_ somewhere, right?
1134344198 M * mep_ right
1134344222 M * mep_ i want one of the ips i defined for the vserver is the "standard" ip
1134344226 M * mep_ for ssh client action
1134344229 M * mep_ wget actiosn etc etc
1134344256 M * Bertl hmm, well, it is not something which is decided in the kernel
1134344276 M * mep_ so how he select?
1134344284 M * Bertl it is basically a decision of your ssh client
1134344302 M * Bertl try ssh -b
1134344329 M * mep_ and wget etc?
1134344363 M * Bertl either they have a similar option .. or you could try to rearrange the order the IPs are assigned
1134344404 M * Bertl it's basically the same 'primary' vs 'secondary' and/or routing (+ source selection) setup you have on every linux box
1134344414 M * mep_ yes but
1134344419 M * mep_ i got eth0:1
1134344422 M * mep_ eth0:2
1134344429 M * mep_ but why the fuck he uses eth0:2
1134344433 M * mep_ thats my problem :)
1134344452 M * Bertl could you show me the output of 'ip addr ls'
1134344538 M * mep_ inside the sub system?
1134344561 M * Bertl yes, inside the guest
1134344793 M * mep_ hmm how
1134344797 M * mep_ netstat -i -e ?
1134345092 M * Bertl hmm, no, actually with 'ip addr ls' :)
1134345103 M * Bertl if that doesn't work for you, please install iproute2
1134345118 M * mep_ ah kk
1134345397 J * dos000 ~dos000@i216-58-41-120.cybersurf.com
1134345404 M * Bertl welcome dos000!
1134345409 M * dos000 hey
1134345473 M * dos000 anyone of you guys know a hight density 802.11 acess point ?