1134173497 Q * id Quit: Leaving 1134174298 M * daniel_hozac enrico maintains util-vserver for FC5. 1134174324 M * daniel_hozac (in Fedora Extras) 1134174983 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1134175045 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1134175359 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1134175970 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1134176984 J * infowolfe_ infowolfe@66-230-110-98-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134177374 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134178529 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134181583 J * mep__ mep@p50918302.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1134182026 Q * mep_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134183694 J * infowolfe infowolfe@66-230-110-98-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134184134 Q * infowolfe_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134184364 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134184550 J * gerrit ~gerrit@70.136.196.124 1134186956 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1134188615 Q * mugwump Remote host closed the connection 1134189241 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-245-180.netcologne.de 1134189355 J * sebi_ ~sebi@Fd0b6.f.strato-dslnet.de 1134189389 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134189461 Q * sebi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134190612 M * emp Weeee, I have Asterisk running in a VS :) 1134190945 M * Bertl emp: congrats! 1134191071 M * emp Thanks, it went quite well using some info others had posted online... I still have a lot to learn about vserver 1134191272 M * mnemoc what about a howto on the wiki? :) 1134194430 M * Bertl night everyone! off to bed now ... 1134194440 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1134195137 J * comfrey ~comfrey@h-64-105-87-234.sttnwaho.covad.net 1134196349 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134200369 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134202295 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1134205351 J * gerrit ~gerrit@adsl-69-111-105-215.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net 1134205408 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@adsl-69-111-105-215.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net 1134205854 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134208056 M * Loki|muh moin 1134208063 M * Loki|muh anyone alive yet? ;) 1134208082 M * Kara_ sorta ... 1134208083 M * Loki|muh i wonder, witch patch-2.6.14.2-vs2.0.1-rc?.diff is the stablest 1134208104 M * Loki|muh -t 1134208181 M * Kara_ not sure about that 1134209922 M * derjohn Loki|muh, in Debian the patch is in "experimental" 1134209948 M * derjohn Loki|muh, sry, there 2.1.0-rc10 *augenreib* 1134210014 M * Loki|muh im already using -rc2 here in production and there are no issues 1134210078 M * Loki|muh for me, there were never problems with the experimental release of vserver ;) 1134210460 M * derjohn Loki|muh, /me, too. Maybe try micah's Debian patch and take 2.6.14 debian at all? 1134210462 M * derjohn as I said .. you may apt it from experimental 1134210531 M * Loki|muh i will have a look 1134210535 M * Loki|muh thank you 1134212138 Q * eyck Quit: leaving 1134213265 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1134213814 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1134214062 M * virtuoso My dear god. Yet another virtualization stuff: http://openvz.org/ 1134217363 M * Psy0rz so how do xen and openvz and vserver compare/ 1134217364 M * Psy0rz ? 1134217405 M * lonewolff .win move 13 1134217409 M * lonewolff oops 1134217509 M * Psy0rz ah nice http://openvz.org/documentation/tech/virtualization 1134217513 M * Psy0rz explains it all :) 1134217831 Q * michal_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134218090 J * michal_ ~michal@mprivacy-update.de 1134218646 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer 1134219182 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@66-230-110-98-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1134219204 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134219234 J * Doener doener@i5387F249.versanet.de 1134221033 M * derjohn Psy0rz, follow the ML .. there is (was) an discussin about "vs". 1134221050 M * derjohn VS vs. VZ :) 1134221271 A * mnemoc is more than happy with vs 1134221424 Q * gerrit_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134221541 Q * baggins Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134222251 M * Psy0rz yup i've found it and read it :) 1134224049 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1134224053 M * Bertl morning folks! 1134224090 M * Loki|muh morning Bertl 1134224107 M * Loki|muh Bertl: which -rc should be used atm? 1134224244 J * baggins ~baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1134224385 M * Bertl Loki|muh: 2.0.1-rc5 I'd say 1134224391 M * Bertl welcome baggins! 1134224395 M * Loki|muh thank you 1134224826 Q * Hunger jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1134224842 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1134224844 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later 1134224850 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1134226538 J * eyck_ eyck@81.219.64.71 1134226563 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer 1134226822 M * micah Loki|muh: 2.0.1-rc5 is available in unstable, the experimental patch derjohn was referring to is the 2.1.0-rc10 1134231875 Q * lilo Quit: leaving 1134232056 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1134232722 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-19-240.netcologne.de 1134232829 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134233095 M * Loki|muh ya, but the debian patches require root for installing and I prefer wget & tar xzvf & patch ;) 1134233768 M * micah sounds good! 1134233925 M * SiD3WiNDR you mean that doesn't require root? :p 1134233980 M * micah you will eventually need root to install a kernel 1134236596 J * anarcat ~anarcat@H144.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca 1134236607 M * anarcat hi 1134236622 M * anarcat i'm looking for a way to have files that are installed by default in new vservers 1134236625 M * anarcat i'm on debian-sarge 1134236632 M * anarcat i know about /etc/vservers/files 1134236641 M * anarcat but that seems to apply only to specific files in /etc 1134236649 M * anarcat i want a more finer control 1134236656 M * anarcat like install /etc/apt/sources.list 1134238804 M * micah anarcat: you could create a vserver that is setup the way you want, and then clone that vserver for all your future ones 1134238836 M * micah that original "seed" vserver doesn't even need to be running, you can just use it to setup the things you want to be in all clones 1134238846 M * anarcat i see 1134238856 M * anarcat good idea 1134238857 M * micah (there might be a way in /etc/vservers, but I dont know it) 1134238870 M * anarcat /etc/vservers seems to be very confusing 1134238881 M * anarcat /etc/init.d/vserver-default can't start my vservers, btw3 1134238891 M * anarcat i can only start them in "legacy" mode 1134238902 M * micah basically I built a very basic vserver, removed all the packages I didn't want in it, installed all the ones I did want, setup some accounts I wanted in all vservers, tweaked some settings, added the apt/sources.list 1134238915 M * anarcat /usr/lib/util-vserver/start-vservers: line 596: `pkgmgmt.guessStyle': not a valid identifier 1134238924 M * anarcat weir 1134238924 M * anarcat d 1134238924 M * anarcat anyways 1134238925 M * anarcat ok, that sounds good, thanks 1134238927 M * micah then I do a skeleton build for all future ones, and then do a cp -a from the seed to the new one 1134238942 M * micah but be aware that if you do this, you need to change the hostnames in all the clones :) 1134238960 M * micah anarcat: what version of util-vserver are you using? 1134238964 M * micah anarcat: also, what kernel patch? 1134238983 M * anarcat ii kernel-patch-vserver 1.9.5.3 context switching virtual private servers - kernel patch 1134238987 M * anarcat ii util-vserver 0.30.204-5sarge2 tools for Virtual private servers and context switching 1134238991 M * anarcat ii vserver-debiantools 0.1.10 Tools to manage debian virtual servers 1134239091 M * anarcat anyways 1134239096 M * anarcat out for a break 1134239097 M * micah anarcat: ok, first I would remove vserver-debiantools 1134239103 M * micah its not useful, and causes confusion and problems 1134239121 M * micah second, I would upgrade to the backported 0.30.209 util-vserver, the one in sarge is very broken 1134239143 M * micah you can add this apt source to get it: 1134239143 M * micah deb http://deb.riseup.net/debian unstable main 1134239584 P * terrorgrl 1134240198 M * anarcat i seee.... 1134240202 M * anarcat very interesting 1134240245 M * anarcat you are the riseup guy eh? 1134240252 M * anarcat i knew i met you somewhere 1134240267 M * anarcat hmmm 1134240274 M * anarcat no amd64 package there eh? :) 1134241093 M * anarcat hey, micah ... 1134241102 M * anarcat i was wondering, the "console" output you get when you start the vservers... 1134241112 M * anarcat shouldn't it be redirected to a logfile somewhere? 1134241264 M * ag- anarcat: you can redirect it on a chardev only 1134241275 M * anarcat uh? 1134241278 M * anarcat character device? 1134241289 M * anarcat but when I start the vserver, i get its console on stdout, no? 1134241314 M * ag- /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/init/tty: A symlink to the TTY device where input/output will be redirected from/to at startup via initscript. 1134241327 M * anarcat o ic 1134241354 M * anarcat where is this stuff documented? 1134241367 M * ag- http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1134241406 M * anarcat oh! 1134241408 M * anarcat the ugly page 1134241464 M * anarcat cool, thanks 1134241577 M * micah anarcat: yeah, I've only built i386, as thats all I have, I'll consider building other arches 1134241584 M * micah anarcat: yep thats me :) 1134241614 M * anarcat micah, i'm building a amd64 mirror as we speak :) 1134241624 M * anarcat about /etc/vservers/.distributions/dist 1134241632 M * anarcat should that be /etc/vservers/.distributions/sarge or something like that? 1134241647 M * micah i dont know, I've never really messed with that 1134241654 M * micah the default seemed to work fine 1134241719 M * anarcat well, by default it doesn't copy over the sources.list 1134241726 M * anarcat and that seems to be supposed to do it 1134241733 M * anarcat ag-, got another billiant tip? :) 1134241778 M * anarcat # /etc/vservers/.distributions/dist/apt 1134241779 M * anarcat Default content of the /etc/apt/ directory. 1134242516 M * micah anarcat: if that file exists it will copy the /etc/apt directory from the host? 1134242547 M * anarcat i don't exactly understand 1134242561 M * anarcat what's "dist"? is it just "dist" or "sarge" or "debian" or what? 1134242580 M * anarcat btw, we have a raid+lvm setup here 1134242582 M * anarcat it's quite fun :) 1134242590 M * anarcat # /root/bin/vcreate test 2000 eth0:192.168.0.110/24 test.remus.koumbit.net 1134242598 M * anarcat creating partition 1134242598 M * anarcat formatting /dev/mapper/vserver--data-test 1134242598 M * anarcat mke2fs 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) 1134242598 M * anarcat adding to fstab 1134242598 M * anarcat mounting 1134242603 M * anarcat bootstraping vserver 1134242607 M * anarcat ... 1134242738 M * anarcat well, it seems it's not "sarge" 1134242839 M * anarcat i find the vserver documentation a bit... lacking 1134242844 M * anarcat is it me? 1134242933 M * anarcat ouh 1134242935 M * anarcat unnamed vservers 1134242945 M * anarcat that can't be good.. how do I stop them? 1134242973 M * Doener anarcat: what do you mean with 'unnamed'= 1134242977 M * Doener S/=/?/ 1134242987 M * anarcat i mean this: 1134242988 M * anarcat CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1134242988 M * anarcat 0 62 286.2M 8.5K 1m41s96 1m01s95 2h31m46 root server 1134242988 M * anarcat 49154 4 21.5M 647 0m00s00 0m00s00 1h09m04 1134243077 M * anarcat lovely 1134243129 M * Doener ah, that's because you use dynamic xids 1134243209 M * anarcat ah? 1134243247 M * Doener in /etc/vservers//context you can set the context id (xid) for a vserver 1134243255 M * Doener if none is given, a dynamic one is used 1134243309 M * anarcat i see 1134243316 M * anarcat but why doesn't it have a *name*? 1134243321 M * Doener cat /proc/virtual/49154/cvirt | grep NodeName 1134243326 M * Doener that should tell you the name 1134243327 M * anarcat i can't stop or access it without a name... 1134243350 M * Doener because the tools have a bug when it comes to resolving names of vservers with dynamic xids 1134243355 M * anarcat it gives me the hostname 1134243358 M * anarcat and then: 1134243358 M * Doener but IIRC that was fixed some time ago 1134243359 M * anarcat Can not find a vserver-setup at '/etc/vservers/test.remus.koumbit.net/'. 1134243368 M * anarcat can't stop it 1134243386 M * Doener hm, is the vserver named like that? i.e. test.remus.koumbit.net? 1134243405 M * Doener (nodename is not necessarily equal to the vserver name) 1134243444 M * anarcat yes 1134243448 M * anarcat yep 1134243450 M * anarcat that's my problem 1134243581 M * micah maybe the tools have a problem with vserver names that have dots in them? 1134243598 M * micah anarcat: typically people make short vserver names, because it is a pain to type "vserver test.remus.koumbit.net enter" 1134243600 M * anarcat i did not put a dot in the vserver name 1134243607 M * anarcat the vserver name is "test" 1134243613 M * anarcat that's the hostname, test.r.k.n 1134243618 M * micah how did you build it? with what arguments? 1134243644 M * anarcat something like this, most probably: 1134243647 M * anarcat vserver ${NAME} build -n ${NAME} --hostname ${HOSTNAME} --interface ${NET} -m debootstrap -- -d ${DIST} -m ${MIRROR} -- ${DBOPTS} 1134243661 M * anarcat where NAME=test and hostname = test.r.k.n 1134243686 M * micah i typically build like: 1134243686 M * micah vserver kea build -m debootstrap --hostname kea --interface \ 1134243687 M * micah eth0:69.90.134.201/25 -- -d sarge -- --exclude=$REMOVE_PACKAGES 1134243716 M * anarcat well, there's only a -n less 1134243717 M * micah so I dont use -n 1134243719 M * micah yeah 1134243731 M * micah ah 1134243732 M * micah and 1134243738 M * micah hostname is not FQDN 1134243740 M * micah but only the hostname 1134243754 M * anarcat qwhy not fqdn? 1134243762 M * micah because --hostname doesn't say --fqdn? 1134243766 M * anarcat :) 1134243766 M * micah ;) 1134243767 M * anarcat ok 1134243803 M * micah btw. i have written a lot of things about vservers and debian available here: http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/ 1134244110 M * anarcat right! 1134244298 M * anarcat i forgot about that 1134244299 M * anarcat thanks 1134245581 Q * anarcat Quit: wheepee 1134248073 J * gerrit ~gerrit@70.136.195.200 1134248123 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@70.136.195.200 1134248569 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134248633 J * Aiken ~james@tooax7-087.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1134248724 M * daniel_hozac micah: hostname is the full hostname. 1134248771 M * micah daniel_hozac: fqdn? huh 1134248798 M * micah any idea why anarcat's vserver didn't get a name at all? 1134248869 M * Doener micah: it got a name, but the tools couldn't resolve it from the xid, because it was a dynamic one... 1134248897 M * Doener IIRC that was fixed in a recent version of util-vserver, but i might be wrong 1134249119 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i think it's fixed too. 1134249131 M * daniel_hozac legacy vserver should get [], IIRC. 1134249161 M * daniel_hozac *cough*, which obviously has nothing to do with dynamic xids. sorry. 1134249208 M * micah ah, so probably a symptom of not using 0.30.209 1134249230 J * comfrey ~comfrey@h-64-105-87-234.sttnwaho.covad.net 1134250050 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134250109 Q * kavorka Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134250827 M * brcc HOw does vserver work on amd 64 ? Would it work as fine as on 32bits proc ? 1134250941 M * daniel_hozac it should. 1134251099 M * Doener brcc: works fine here (Athlon 64 X2), didn't try 64bit guest yet, only my good old 32bit ones ;) 1134251447 J * kavorka ~mike@69-161-69-17.bflony.adelphia.net 1134251737 M * brcc hehe ok 1134252546 J * click click@ti511110a080-3301.bb.online.no 1134256719 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.94 1134256833 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1134256833 N * menomc mnemoc