1133395687 Q * infowolfe Remote host closed the connection 1133395854 J * pchazard ~jennifera@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1133396851 Q * pchazard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133397007 J * ryker ~ryker@c-67-176-240-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net 1133397449 P * anonymousc adios 1133398126 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1133398127 Q * davidsmind Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133398143 M * Bertl evening folks! 1133398155 J * davidsmind ~david@149.130.davidsmind.com 1133398198 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1133398207 M * michal_ hey Bertl ! 1133398213 A * michal_ just got back frm a party 1133398222 M * Bertl good! 1133398242 M * Bertl I assume it was a vserver party :) 1133398268 M * michal_ sure we were guest of some very nice pub ;p 1133398293 M * michal_ and everything was so easy to configure like a vserver, even girls ;p 1133398357 M * michal_ hm, at some point vserver _was_ mentioned in fact ;p 1133398430 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133398452 M * derjohn Bertl, I have patches util-vserver to 64 IPs. FYI: It seems it does not the kernel about the # ip, it changed the define in the util vserver code. 1133398523 M * Bertl yes, it's correct 1133398574 M * Bertl the 'kernel headers' are aprivate copy 1133398599 M * derjohn Bertl, is saved my a... today :) Moved a phsyical suse box mit 50 IPs to a server ... (today the RAID corrupted, 1 Disk defect, kernel hangs, linux doesnt boot from a dirty and degradrd raid5) 1133398629 M * derjohn Bertl, is it difficult to make the util-vserver "ask" the kernel for it's #define value ? 1133398703 M * derjohn Bertl, BTW: The ssl/load balancing problem was solved without LVS. I used "pound" to terminate the ssl sessions und do the LB stuff. (may you remember our chat) 1133398800 M * Bertl well, theoretically you can (at any point) copy the kernel headers (for linux-vserver) into the tools, and they should 'just' work 1133398803 M * derjohn Bertl, LVS seems not to be able to load-balance to "local" IPs, so we could not balance from a host to guests (until ngnet? I read you are working in that at the time?) 1133398841 M * Bertl yes, well I planned to, until today I was mostly busy with getting my work environment set up 1133398860 M * Bertl you can not imagine how many broken CD writers are in princeton :) 1133398875 M * derjohn Bertl, only at complie time. The Q is if I could build a (bin) util package that adapts to the env it runs in. 1133398923 M * derjohn Bertl, don't they boot from net there ;) ? Are you a student now? 1133399046 M * Bertl well, newer tools will adapt automatically, but not for the legacy networking (which you are currently using) 1133399075 M * Bertl derjohn: yes, that's what I did today (after giving up on the writers) 1133399097 M * Bertl and no, I'm here for a cooperation on linux-vserver 1133399180 M * derjohn Bertl, you think ngnet comes closer ("objects in mirror are closer than they appear?"). Then I won't try the other thing. Remind me when there is working ngnet, will test if you like. 1133399212 M * derjohn Bertl, I have to go now. THX for you help anyway! 1133399216 M * derjohn by(t)e 1133399252 M * Bertl ur welcome, cya! 1133401207 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-104.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1133401228 M * Bertl morning Aiken! 1133401330 M * Aiken good morning 1133401832 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au 1133402034 M * Bertl welcome anonc! 1133402054 M * anonc hi bertl 1133402060 M * anonc how's you travelling going? 1133402086 M * Bertl well, reached destination a few days ago :) 1133402121 M * Bertl but yes, everything fine ... 1133402159 M * anonc i was just wondering if you wanted to follow up on those 2.1 COW panics I was having 1133402185 M * Bertl hmm, details (was a little hard to get work done in the past few days) 1133402194 M * anonc just a sec 1133402319 M * anonc grr - pastebin deleted 1133402617 M * anonc http://pastebin.com/444428 1133402621 M * Bertl tx 1133402628 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133402643 M * Bertl ah, too many links, interesting ... 1133402659 M * Bertl what filesystem is that? 1133402666 M * anonc ext3 1133402676 M * anonc but the same error occurred with xfs 1133402699 M * Bertl hmm, only once or can you reproduce it? 1133402706 M * anonc also, when trying to start the original vserver (sid rather than sid1) the same error about "too many links" comes up also 1133402717 M * anonc every time 1133402748 M * Bertl okay, great! do you have a moment to do some debugging there? 1133402751 M * anonc I've reformatted the partition, blown away the original sid and rebuilt it from scratch, ditto for the clone (sid1) 1133402755 M * anonc of course 1133402783 M * Bertl okay, plz upload your kernel's .config file somewhere 1133402818 M * Bertl we probably need to recompile the kernel with a few changes 1133402824 M * Bertl (enabling debug stufcf and such) 1133402829 M * Bertl *stuff 1133402831 M * anonc no problem - just a sec while I put it up 1133402900 M * anonc http://www.users.on.net/~nwalsh/config.gz 1133403093 M * Bertl let's enable 1133403097 M * Bertl CONFIG_VSERVER_DEBUG=y 1133403114 M * anonc yep 1133403119 M * Bertl CONFIG_VSERVER_HISTORY=y 1133403127 M * anonc and VSERVER_HISTORY? 1133403149 M * Bertl yes :) 1133403163 M * anonc does per-cpu history size matter? 1133403167 M * Bertl CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y 1133403177 M * Bertl CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE=y 1133403195 M * Bertl CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y 1133403333 M * anonc any others? 1133403356 M * Bertl hmm, no, that should suffice 1133403412 M * anonc ok - compiling now 1133403733 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146 1133404146 M * anonc ...still compiling... 1133404162 M * Bertl yeah has to compile everything 1133404198 M * anonc for debug info - yup 1133404285 M * anonc should I recreate the original vserver guest (sid) or are we ok to delete the clone and reuse the original? 1133404334 M * Bertl well, whatever causes the issue is fine :) 1133404770 M * miller7 Bertl: what's normal to be in /proc of a guest? 1133404781 M * miller7 should it show anything? 1133404793 M * Bertl yes, most of the entries are fine 1133404809 M * Bertl util-vserver has an up-to-date list 1133405078 Q * davidsmind Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133405119 M * anonc ...still compiling... 1133405162 M * Bertl quite generic kernel I guess 1133405170 M * anonc too many filesystems... 1133405267 M * miller7 does traceroute work from inside a guest in the latest versions? 1133405276 M * Bertl I guess so 1133405304 M * miller7 ping works 1133405315 M * miller7 traceroute gives me raw socket: operation not permitted 1133405344 M * Bertl try tracepath ... 1133405344 Q * Wolfwood Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133405371 J * Wolfwood nicholasd@d60-65-131-235.col.wideopenwest.com 1133405376 M * miller7 indeed 1133405377 M * miller7 works 1133405401 Q * cemil Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133405428 M * miller7 I followed Hollow's how-to for gentoo-guest and it runs very nice! 1133405440 M * miller7 Hollow, when you wake up: good job! 1133405477 M * Bertl I'm sure he'll appreceate it ... 1133405507 M * miller7 I used to make gentoo guests by hand 1133405510 M * miller7 ie chroot etc 1133405512 M * miller7 then tweak them 1133405517 M * miller7 but his method really rocks 1133405542 A * miller7 is still impressed from the 2.6 version kernel and the new features he was not used to :) 1133405576 M * miller7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 1 02:44 MAKEDEV -> ../sbin/MAKEDEV* 1133405581 M * miller7 is this normal to be in the /dev/? 1133405604 M * mnemoc on arcane /dev, yes 1133405612 M * miller7 what is arcane /dev? 1133405622 M * Bertl (regarding impressed) do you mean 2.6 or vs.2.1.0 1133405650 M * miller7 I mean kernel 2.6 with vs.2.1 in comparison to my usual 2.4 kernel with 1.x version :) 1133405659 M * Bertl MAKEDEV is not used, but it shold not hurt 1133405669 M * Bertl *should 1133405687 M * miller7 ok 1133405704 M * miller7 mknod does not work, I assume, right? 1133405711 M * Bertl right! 1133405715 M * miller7 how can I test? 1133405731 M * Bertl mknod miller b 1 1 1133405743 M * miller7 I am not permitted :P 1133405743 M * miller7 mknod: `miller': Operation not permitted 1133405751 M * miller7 operation miller not permitted :D 1133405752 M * miller7 hehe 1133405785 M * miller7 I still can't imagine how easy it is now to install gentoo with vserver! 1133405789 M * miller7 can't believe 1133405800 M * miller7 good job Bertl, Hollow! 1133405819 M * Bertl thanks for the flowers! and thanks for using it! 1133405848 A * miller7 is using since 0.x version of Jackques.... waaaaay back 1133405866 M * miller7 but never really had the time to follow the project closely :( 1133405870 M * miller7 in terms of dev 1133406031 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de 1133406227 M * Bertl welcome cemil! 1133407557 M * anonc compiling modules now... 1133408004 M * anonc Bertl: rebooted into the debug kernel now 1133408021 M * Bertl ah, excellent! 1133408038 M * anonc want me to repeat the steps to get it to panic? 1133408056 M * Bertl nope, first let's enable some of the debugging stuff 1133408111 M * anonc echo 1 > /proc/sys/vserver/debug_misc 1133408112 M * anonc presumably 1133408170 M * Bertl hmm, well, try 1133408183 M * Bertl echo 255 >/proc/sys/vserver/debug_misc 1133408186 M * Bertl and 1133408196 M * Bertl echo 255 >/proc/sys/vserver/debug_switch 1133408224 M * anonc done - any others? 1133408273 M * Bertl no, let's give it a try 1133408291 M * anonc ok - creating the clone as outlined in that pastebin link i sent you 1133408338 M * Bertl hmm ... 1133408351 M * Bertl --iunlink-but-not-immutable 1133408363 M * Bertl now I realize what you are doing here? 1133408417 M * anonc wrong way to create the cow stuff? 1133408478 M * Bertl no probably fine ... 1133408504 M * anonc what is your recommended way to hardlink a server for COW? 1133408555 M * Bertl well, usually folks will use the vunify/vhashify tool 1133408594 M * Bertl do me a favor and check if the files belong to xid=0 after your 'unification' 1133408607 M * anonc using showattr? 1133408662 M * Bertl lsxid 1133408669 M * anonc ah 1133408688 M * Bertl especially check the mtab inquestion 1133408736 M * anonc mybox vservers # lsxid /vservers/sid/etc/mtab 1133408736 M * anonc !!ERR!! /vservers/sid/etc/mtab 1133408736 M * anonc mybox vservers # lsxid /vservers/sid1/etc/mtab 1133408736 M * anonc !!ERR!! /vservers/sid1/etc/mtab 1133408758 M * Bertl okay, so no xid tagging? 1133408784 M * Bertl right, you disabled that one ... 1133408793 M * Bertl CONFIG_INOXID_NONE=y 1133408799 M * Bertl okay, let's continue 1133408800 M * anonc is it required for COW? 1133408832 M * Bertl no, not really 1133409248 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@209-112-219-176-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1133409588 M * anonc ok - here's the dmesg after the panic with debugging enabled: http://pastebin.com/444509 1133409641 M * Bertl hmm, that's interesting ... 1133409665 M * Bertl what does - 1133409712 M * Bertl what does 'ls -lag //vservers/sid{,1}/dev/null 1133409716 M * Bertl give? 1133409741 M * anonc mybox vservers # ls -lag //vservers/sid{,1}/dev/null 1133409741 M * anonc crw-rw-rw- 2 root 1, 3 Nov 25 15:19 //vservers/sid/dev/null 1133409741 M * anonc crw-rw-rw- 2 root 1, 3 Nov 25 15:19 //vservers/sid1/dev/null 1133409764 M * Bertl hmm, didn't know you could do that ... 1133409780 M * Bertl live and learn ... 1133409837 M * Bertl okay, the device nodes must not be hard linked for now 1133409870 M * Bertl (so basically just avoid hard linking (or marking) /dev 1133409890 M * Bertl but I agree it's a linux-vserver COW bug 1133409972 M * anonc fair enuff - I'll bounce it and unlink them and see how it goes 1133409989 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1133410001 M * Bertl welcome stefani! 1133410023 M * stefani hola again. 1133410829 M * anonc hmm - mv'd /vservers/sid/dev out of the sid guest, did a 'cd /vservers ; cp -la sid/. sid1' and the setattr - no panic but it doesn't work either - too many links again. sid1 actually starts (after complaining) but you can't modify the files inside (too many links again) 1133410936 M * Bertl on which file? 1133410973 M * anonc for example - i tried appending to /etc/passwd inside sid1 1133410978 M * anonc echo blah >> /etc/passwd 1133410988 M * anonc bash: /etc/passwd: Too many links 1133411007 M * Bertl do you have the debug enabled? 1133411057 M * anonc yeo 1133411059 M * anonc yep 1133411091 M * Bertl okay, so you should get similar vxD messages 1133411109 M * anonc yeah - let me gather them for another pastbin entry 1133411796 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now ... will look into it tomorrow 1133411814 M * anonc yeah - I'll try a few different things - thatnks for your time 1133411823 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1133411831 M * Bertl and thanks for debugging! 1133411840 M * anonc no problem 1133411841 M * Bertl night folks! have fun! 1133411852 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1133412589 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow) 1133413999 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1133414090 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133415112 M * Hollow miller7: thx :) 1133415126 M * miller7 Hollow: Well done m8! 1133415158 M * miller7 450MB gentoo installation too... :) 1133415176 M * Hollow heh 1133415205 M * miller7 and to tell you a funny story 1133415219 M * miller7 I was installing to a dual P3 box I have around 1133415232 M * miller7 but I got the P4 stage3 by habit 1133415236 M * miller7 and the env-update didn't work 1133415247 M * miller7 so I was like "wtf, this stuff does not work, let me check the code" 1133415255 M * miller7 and then I did the commands by hand 1133415266 M * miller7 until I realised that i was using wrong architecture :P 1133415278 M * miller7 and then it installed in 2 minutes! 1133415280 M * Hollow heh 1133415302 M * Hollow interesting to see, that wrong stages causes problems.. someone told me e uses athlon stages on a pentium an it works great 1133415317 M * miller7 strange 1133415333 M * miller7 it gave me some error I can't remember what 1133415340 M * miller7 perhaps because it's an P3 SMP box 1133415342 M * miller7 dunno 1133415364 M * miller7 the guest I made though worked nicely on another box (P4) 1133415371 M * miller7 which I normal I guess 1133415400 M * Hollow i think they're backward compatible.. 1133415406 M * miller7 I think so too 1133415429 M * Hollow miller7: did you notice trhe profile change? 1133415435 M * miller7 what do you mean 1133415451 M * Hollow default-linux/x86/2005.1/vserver instead of vserver/x86 1133415457 M * miller7 ah no 1133415460 M * miller7 I didn't 1133415471 M * miller7 but I have installed the kernel by hand 1133415472 M * Hollow you should get a maessage if you're trying to emerge something 1133415479 M * Hollow (or you haven't synced lately) 1133415488 M * miller7 I sync twice a day 1133415509 M * Hollow you should get a warning inside the guest that your current profile is deprecated 1133415517 M * miller7 hmmm 1133415523 M * miller7 didn't notice 1133415529 M * miller7 ah yes true 1133415534 M * miller7 you are right 1133415536 M * miller7 it said that 1133415548 M * miller7 so I linked the /etc/make.profile thingie 1133415552 M * miller7 true 1133415564 A * miller7 is ashamed to say he didn't notice where he linked to 1133415566 M * miller7 :D 1133415582 M * Hollow yeah, it's just that we wanted to conform to the default-linux profile and don't make our own thingy 1133415582 M * miller7 could have been /dev/random as far I can tell :D 1133415594 M * miller7 very good 1133415615 M * miller7 will I have a problem if I use the util-vserver tools but I compile my own kernel from source? 1133415638 M * miller7 I usually compile a new kernel only if security patches are required in order to avoid much downtime 1133415650 M * Hollow no, we don't include "special" fatures to vserver-sources, it vanilla+genpatches+vserver 1133415655 M * miller7 ok 1133415658 M * miller7 very good 1133415755 A * miller7 goes to grab a bite 1133415768 M * miller7 too many bytes and I now I need a bit 1133415770 M * miller7 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* daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1133419184 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.35.186 1133419184 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net 1133419184 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1133419184 J * bragon ~bragon@god.geeknode.org 1133419184 J * SNy a08c0001b5@bmx-chemnitz.de 1133419184 J * FaUl j9QQBAFJax@verbrennung.org 1133419184 J * sizo janek@openbug.org 1133419184 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@tnlug.linux.org.tw 1133419184 J * mugwump ~samv@202.78.240.73 1133419184 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be 1133419184 J * MostlyHarmless ~mh@melbourne.mostly-harmless.ca 1133419184 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1133419184 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1133419184 J * [MUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de 1133419184 J * michal_ ~michal@mprivacy-update.de 1133419184 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net 1133419184 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx 1133419184 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1133419184 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1133419184 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1133419184 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1133419184 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1133419184 J * Marchildon ~nicolas@dsl.speedline207.106.electronicbox.net 1133419184 J * ComplexHo ~ComplexHo@cpc1-brig3-6-0-cust194.brig.cable.ntl.com 1133419184 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1133419184 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52 1133419184 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1133419184 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru 1133419184 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1133419184 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1133419184 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com 1133419184 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1133419361 Q * FireEgl jupiter.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1133419361 Q * aba jupiter.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1133419561 J * aba ~aba@eos.turmzimmer.net 1133419561 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1133419562 Q * aba iridium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1133419562 Q * FireEgl iridium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1133419631 J * aba ~aba@eos.turmzimmer.net 1133419631 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1133419643 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133420415 Q * anonc Quit: adios 1133420519 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au 1133420963 Q * infowolfe Remote host closed the connection 1133421261 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1133423175 N * lilo_ lilo 1133423997 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@214-60-178-69.gci.net 1133424412 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1133424418 M * litage hey guys 1133424432 M * litage is there any reason why ``sudo mknod /dev/tty6 c 4 6'' would fail within a vserver? 1133424525 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133424578 M * anonc at a guess you're not usually allowed to create device nodes in a vserver guest 1133424637 M * litage anonc: ah 1133424666 M * litage every few minutes, 7 of these messages appear in syslog (replace X with 0-6): getty[30557]: /dev/ttyX: No such file or directory 1133425110 Q * miller7 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133425287 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@214-60-178-69.gci.net 1133425432 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1133426672 M * Hollow litage: look at your inittab and remove the entries for getty 1133426974 M * litage Hollow: yeah that's what i had to do unfortunately. thanks 1133426998 M * Hollow unfortunately? 1133427697 M * anonc presumably you can get around this by running the pseudo init rather than the real one 1133428658 J * oliwel ~mail-at-o@host-62-245-151-178.customer.m-online.net 1133428763 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.123 1133428871 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133428871 N * menomc mnemoc 1133428981 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-197.lhi.is 1133430856 M * litage anonc: the pseudo init? 1133430953 M * SiD3WiNDR not really 1133430960 M * SiD3WiNDR a vserver simply doesn't have tty's 1133430992 M * SiD3WiNDR hmm 1133431031 M * litage SiD3WiNDR: i've just disabled them in /etc/inittab 1133431088 M * litage btw guys, if you're running linux-vservers and haven't disabled the tty's in inittab and you're forwarding your syslog messages to a log server/database, be prepared for a lot of complaints from getty about /dev/ttyX not existing 1133431156 M * litage i've had 3 vservers running for a couple of months, sending their syslog messages to a central DB. i just fixed the tty problem and deleted all related entries from the log server's DB. there were over 600,000 entries 1133431204 M * SiD3WiNDR :) 1133431205 M * SiD3WiNDR indeed 1133431207 M * SiD3WiNDR 6 per 5 minutes 1133431209 M * SiD3WiNDR per vserver 1133431212 M * litage yep 1133431215 M * SiD3WiNDR but I simply don't have getty in inittab 1133431226 M * SiD3WiNDR I don't even have inittab I think 1133431230 M * litage lucky. i don't either...anymore 1133431231 M * litage oh. hahah 1133431248 M * litage anyhoo, time for me to be orf. later fellas 1133431260 P * litage Leaving 1133431954 A * SiD3WiNDR wonders why he gets cannot send to channel all the time 1133431958 P * SiD3WiNDR Moo! 1133431958 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1133431965 M * SiD3WiNDR testing one two 1133431968 M * SiD3WiNDR better. 1133432001 M * SiD3WiNDR so people on 4 servers of the network couldn't see what I was saying :> 1133432137 M * sladen micah: yup, Helsinki now. Nice and snowy :) 1133432187 M * sladen Bertl_zZ: wow. I thought you were in ...Austria 1133432569 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1133433480 J * id23 ~id@p54A02432.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1133433486 M * id23 hi 1133433489 N * id23 id 1133434368 Q * Duckx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133434368 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133434515 M * harry is it possible to change the macaddress of a vserver? 1133434529 M * harry (of a vps...) 1133434696 M * daniel_hozac MAC addresses are per-interface, so no. 1133434736 M * harry damn 1133434745 M * harry this means we can't use vserver over here... 1133434751 M * harry so it will have to be xen 1133435063 M * TheSeer what would be the use of virtual mac's? 1133435125 M * SiD3WiNDR that would mean the interface should be put into promisc 1133435139 M * SiD3WiNDR otherwise the hardware will disregard the frames destined to the virtual macs 1133435140 M * SiD3WiNDR no? 1133435159 J * DuckMaster ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1133435168 J * Duckx ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1133435329 M * harry very simple 1133435333 M * harry we have a license server 1133435345 M * harry and licenses are coupled with a certain macaddress 1133435352 M * harry so to make it portable over different servers 1133435363 M * harry we choose to change the macaddress 1133435384 M * harry so if we want to put the license server INSIDE a vserver, it needs a different macaddress 1133435408 M * harry eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:15:BA:DC:0D:ED 1133435445 M * harry why this macaddress... because those license servers are badc0ded ;) 1133435479 M * TheSeer so why don't you use dummy0 ? 1133435496 M * harry ? 1133435723 M * TheSeer ip link set dummy0 address 00:15:BA:DC:0D:ED 1133435753 M * TheSeer bind the vserver to dummy0 and you're done 1133435821 M * TheSeer or did i misunderstood your problem? ;) 1133435845 J * Venomous Venom-One@host53-90.pool871.interbusiness.it 1133435855 M * Venomous hi all 1133436067 M * harry TheSeer: can i use it on eth0 inside the vserver then? 1133436105 M * TheSeer ?? 1133436133 M * TheSeer you want an interface that has a certain mac address, dummy0 can provide that 1133436144 M * TheSeer you can bind the vserver on that interface 1133436156 M * daniel_hozac no, since vservers are only bound to IP addresses ;) 1133436180 M * Venomous guys, a quick question 1133436188 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: which is bound to an interface... 1133436211 M * Venomous i have 4 virtual server, now i need to create onother vserver, is a good idea to copy a vserver? 1133436212 M * daniel_hozac not really. 1133436219 M * Venomous what basically do vserv-copy? 1133436229 M * daniel_hozac Venomous: check recent list archives. 1133436237 M * Venomous ok 1133436303 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133436391 M * id i am limited to maxium of 32 groups a user can be in - but < cat /proc/sys/kernel/ngroups_max says > 65536 1133437266 Q * balbir Quit: Leaving 1133437800 Q * id Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133438079 Q * mountie Quit: LUNCK! 1133438413 J * id ~id@p54A02C9C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1133438570 Q * eugenesan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133439292 M * Venomous guys 1133439298 M * Venomous regarding vserver-copy 1133439302 M * Venomous is this the right way? 1133439304 M * Venomous http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg11553.html 1133439313 M * Venomous so in few words 1133439316 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1133439336 M * Venomous i need first to create the config file, and then copy it 1133439339 M * Venomous rught? 1133439343 M * Venomous ops 1133439346 M * Venomous right? 1133440328 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133440389 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.35.186 1133440430 J * Wolfwood^DC nicholasd@d60-65-128-228.col.wideopenwest.com 1133440751 Q * Venomous Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1133440855 M * cemil whazup! 1133440858 M * cemil hi there 1133440890 Q * Wolfwood Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133440891 N * Wolfwood^DC Wolfwood 1133441616 M * blackfire yay :) apparently my proc-fs woes are over :D 1133442685 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1133442690 M * Bertl morning folks! 1133442712 M * Bertl blackfire: good to hear, and? what did you change? patches? 1133443057 M * id Bertl, query 1133443425 J * kavorka ~mike@69-161-69-17.bflony.adelphia.net 1133443445 M * Bertl welcome kavorka! morning id! 1133443452 M * Bertl okay, back shortly ... 1133443463 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1133443690 J * vip-vs ~vip-vs@cc521104-d.ensch1.ov.home.nl 1133443704 M * vip-vs hi folks 1133443786 M * daniel_hozac hello 1133443884 M * kavorka anyone have a .deb for util-vserver-0.30.209 ? 1133443983 M * vip-vs hi daniel_hozac :) 1133444383 M * blackfire Bertl_oO: see the mailing list 1133444559 M * daniel_hozac blackfire: so the task you were running pidof on was in the hold state? 1133445248 M * blackfire yep that seems it 1133445263 M * blackfire i didn't run pidof manually, it was some monitoring script 1133445304 M * blackfire that's why it only happens under high load in a vserver 1133445317 M * blackfire otherwise no tasks were held 1133445346 M * blackfire one box is running an old upatched kernel but its load is minimal so it wasn't affected yet 1133445360 M * blackfire *un*patched 1133445405 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1133445459 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1133445819 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1133445831 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1133446253 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@209-112-219-176-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1133446467 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133446626 Q * infowolfe Quit: infowolfe 1133446688 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1133447029 Q * vip-vs Remote host closed the connection 1133447666 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133447949 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1133448989 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@209-112-219-176-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1133449622 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1133449626 M * Bertl back again! 1133449693 M * blackfire hello :) 1133449807 J * the_hydra ~a_mulyadi@202.147.200.25 1133449821 M * Bertl blackfire: okay will read up on the ML :) 1133449903 M * blackfire it's a one-liner really 1133449959 M * the_hydra Bertl: nice quote on the channel topic...are you a professional poem's writer? ;) 1133450025 M * Hollow volatile void Bertl() 1133450026 M * Hollow :) 1133450033 M * the_hydra :)) 1133450059 M * the_hydra i thought bertl is usually cached on eax :) 1133450069 M * Hollow oh.. that wasn't related to the poem question :P 1133450082 M * the_hydra :)))) 1133450095 M * Hollow but yeah, i like it too 1133450099 M * Hollow it's so true 1133450292 M * Bertl the_hydra: well, everybody is a poet :) 1133450301 M * the_hydra :) 1133450330 M * Hollow even me 1133450346 M * the_hydra this is why I like this channel, first time i type /j #vserver and wallaa, i saw that "touching" words 1133450424 M * Hollow Bertl: anything interesting going on in princeton? ;) 1133450432 M * the_hydra on the contrary, when i visit "offtopic", it's like entering war land :) 1133450457 M * Hollow the_hydra: #vserver is just like the old hippy times.. :P 1133450471 M * Hollow peace and love everywhere ;) 1133450478 M * the_hydra Hollow: yeap :) 1133450531 M * the_hydra Bertl: maybe it's more like historical question, was vserver initially created to provide same functionality provide by "jail" on BSD? 1133450629 M * Bertl yes 1133450657 M * the_hydra i see 1133450671 M * Bertl Hollow: yes, definitely .. even found some time to integrate the dynamic id disabler 1133450698 M * Hollow oh great! :) 1133450716 M * Hollow what's going on on the ngnet front? 1133450718 M * Bertl so next rc (probablz in a few hours) will have it 1133450730 Q * oliwel Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [SUSE 1.0.6-16/20050715] 1133450730 M * Bertl s/z/y/ (us keyboard :) 1133450738 M * Hollow heh 1133450914 Q * id Quit: work 1133452646 Q * Wolfwood Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133452952 Q * cryo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133453210 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146 1133455162 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1133455311 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1133455407 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976C5A.dip.t-dialin.net 1133456553 J * Wolfwood nicholasd@d60-65-128-228.col.wideopenwest.com 1133456772 J * Ben81 ~Ben81@tipi0e.lri.fr 1133456787 M * Ben81 hello 1133456817 M * daniel_hozac hi 1133456824 M * Ben81 i try tu put the hard scheduling flag in a Vserver 1133456840 M * Ben81 but i don't find documentation to do this 1133456842 M * Ben81 :-( 1133456931 M * daniel_hozac http://www.google.com/search?q=site:linux-vserver.org+hard+CPU ;) 1133457125 M * Ben81 mmm ok but i don't find how to activate it by a flag in /etc/vserver/.../flags 1133457156 M * Ben81 i'm sorry but i have to go back home, i'll maybe find the solution tomorrow. Thanks daniel_hozac 1133457175 M * daniel_hozac the flower page would tell you that. 1133457183 M * daniel_hozac (or link to the page telling you, at least) 1133457307 M * daniel_hozac sched_hard will enable the hard CPU scheduler, for instance. 1133457720 Q * infowolfe Quit: infowolfe 1133457725 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@209-112-219-176-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net 1133458094 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: sometimes it's hard to help :) 1133458176 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1133458233 M * the_hydra hard to help ;) 1133458466 A * harry still wants a way to get macaddresses changed for certain vps'es 1133458655 M * ag- harry: it seems there's an urgent need for ngnet for lots of people :) 1133458864 Q * the_hydra Quit: 1133459088 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133459386 J * _mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1133459741 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1133459858 Q * mountie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133461228 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1133461236 M * Bertl hey matti! 1133461625 Q * _mountie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133461941 M * Bertl blackfire: ah, great fix! need some details for the Hall'o'Fame! 1133462027 M * matti Hello Bertl :))))))) 1133462720 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE00119572fd49-CM00137186e53a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1133462994 M * Bertl welcome dos000! 1133463006 M * dos000 hey ! 1133463027 A * dos000 has made vserver part of his autologins 1133463062 M * Bertl good :) 1133463157 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo :) 1133463227 Q * mef Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1133463243 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU 1133463252 M * Bertl hey mef! 1133463253 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1133463351 M * blackfire Bertl: what info would you like? 1133463380 M * Bertl first, I assume you tracked down the issue, right? 1133463436 M * blackfire well it was me for the most part. any help i received was more or less public (mails on lkml and linux-vserver) 1133463459 M * Bertl okay, then, did you have a look at the Hall'o'Fame yet? 1133463532 M * blackfire i'm looking at the page right now :) 1133463607 M * Bertl okay, so we'd like to have name and country there 1133463636 M * blackfire Grzegorz Nosek (PL) (wow, I'm gonna be famous! :)) 1133463662 M * Bertl if you want to be associated with a company, let me know 1133463729 M * blackfire well, as soon as we put the new vserver-based system into production, i'd like to put my company there but for the time being, let me be a private person :) 1133464066 M * Bertl k, now you're famous! :) 1133464090 M * blackfire yay! :) 1133465125 Q * Wolfwood Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133465542 J * Venomous Venom-One@host146-78.pool8249.interbusiness.it 1133465548 M * Venomous hi all 1133465564 M * Bertl welcome Venomous! 1133465570 M * Venomous hi Bertl 1133465581 M * Venomous Bertl 1133465587 M * Venomous just one simple question 1133465615 M * Venomous this indication are good for copy a vserver? 1133465616 M * Venomous http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg11553.html 1133465652 M * Venomous i need to cpy a veserver 1133465661 M * Venomous copy/clone 1133465946 M * Bertl well, looks reasonable 1133465949 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976C5A.dip.t-dialin.net 1133466006 M * Venomous OK Bertl 1133466012 M * Venomous Thanks very much 1133466016 M * Venomous i will try 1133466388 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1133467362 Q * eyck Quit: leaving 1133467598 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1133467716 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133467817 J * Doener doener@i5387E922.versanet.de 1133467833 M * Doener evening! 1133468046 M * Bertl hey Doener! 1133468191 M * Doener how's ngnet doing? (i guess that's why you're in the US, right? 1133468248 M * Bertl well, yes, I guess too :) 1133468323 M * Bertl until now mostly getting stuff set-up and some discussions about I/O scheduler plans 1133468499 J * eugenesan eugenesan@bzq-219-189-188.cablep.bezeqint.net 1133468514 M * Bertl welcome eugenesan! 1133469715 Q * dos000 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133469744 J * eyck ~eyck@81.219.64.71 1133470050 Q * eyck Remote host closed the connection 1133470052 J * eyck ~eyck@81.219.64.71 1133470313 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1133471185 M * infowolfe Bertl, syn 1133471216 M * Bertl hey infowolfe! 1133471258 M * infowolfe how ya doing? 1133471267 M * Bertl fine thanks, and you? 1133471275 M * infowolfe doing fine 1133471278 M * infowolfe got a question for you 1133471298 M * Bertl only one? 1133471320 M * infowolfe yup, only one ;-) 1133471342 M * infowolfe with 2.6.14.2-vs2.1.0-rc7 where does network efficiency take a dive in number of ips assigned to a single vps? 1133471391 M * Bertl it's O(N) for every check and bind 1133471410 M * infowolfe meaning? 1133471442 M * Bertl the time for every check or bind operation is linear with the number of IPs 1133471460 M * infowolfe alright, so how much degradation am i looking at for 7 ips? 1133471491 M * Bertl 7 times as much as for a single one (this is the 3rd question, right?) 1133471525 M * infowolfe well, it's part of the same question 1133471535 M * infowolfe once upon a time you warned me against adding too many ips to a single vps 1133471544 M * infowolfe i'm wondering where that threshold is 1133471572 M * Bertl you have to try it out, maybe with network performance tests 1133471605 M * infowolfe errr 1133471614 M * infowolfe like what kinda network performance testing ;-) 1133471617 M * Bertl it is unlikely to affect 'throughput' (e.g. over tcp) more likely to cause latency on udp or such 1133471637 M * infowolfe how bad would it hurt irc server operation do you think? 1133471651 A * infowolfe is wondering wtf is taking his mailserver 20+ seconds to respond 1133471659 M * infowolfe unrelated, as the vps only has 1 ip bound to it right now 1133471663 M * Bertl no idea, irc is tcp based 1133471707 M * infowolfe does the # of ips present on the entire machine cause slowdowns or is it just having too many attached to a single vps? 1133471740 M * Bertl of course the total number will cause some slowdown, but neglectable compared to a higher number per guest 1133471774 M * infowolfe can you give me an idea where the recommended threshold is for "higher number per guest?" 1133471780 M * Bertl so 200 IPs in 50 guests (4 IPs each) will be quite fast compared to 4 guests with 50 IPs each 1133471805 M * infowolfe so < 10 ips per guest should be fairly reasonable? 1133471820 M * Bertl out of the blue,w e decided to put the limit at 16, right? 1133471833 M * infowolfe not sure 1133471847 M * Bertl well, that's what the current limit is 1133471851 M * infowolfe i'm thinking it was lower than that on axxo/bonsaikitten's box 1133471880 M * Bertl and I'd say that should be fine ... 1133472010 A * infowolfe figures out that the smtp slowness was due to misconfigured nameserver at his isp, swapped to his remote dnscache and it went away 1133472621 M * infowolfe Bertl, plesk inside a debian guest is quite speedy ;-) 1133472626 M * infowolfe nice work :-) 1133472638 M * Bertl thanks! 1133472644 M * infowolfe Bertl++ 1133472644 M * infowolfe lol 1133472860 J * Wolfwood nicholasd@d60-65-253-235.col.wideopenwest.com 1133472868 M * Bertl welcome Wolfwood! 1133472930 M * infowolfe Bertl, do you know of an updated slackware howto? 1133472940 M * infowolfe the one in the wiki refers to /etc/vservers/$vserver.conf 1133472958 M * Bertl nope, I do not monitor the distro specific howtos 1133473281 A * infowolfe laughs at the marijuana leaves behind the flower page 1133473300 M * infowolfe Bertl, am i blind in not finding the possilbe options for -m? 1133473304 M * infowolfe oops vserver build -m 1133473346 M * Bertl try 'vserver - build --help' 1133473399 M * Bertl or have a look at http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1133473449 Q * mountie Remote host closed the connection 1133473475 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1133473513 M * infowolfe thx 1133473863 Q * shedi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133474245 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1133475297 M * infowolfe does anybody in here use slackware? 1133475484 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1133475485 M * litage ay 1133475516 M * infowolfe hi litage 1133475539 M * litage all of my vservers are logging this error. what does it mean?: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: klogctl: Operation not permitted 1133475561 M * infowolfe um. 1133475573 M * infowolfe kernel logger -- klogd shouldn't be running 1133475583 M * infowolfe it only needs to be run from outside the vservers 1133475664 M * Bertl depending on the version (kernel) and config (guest) you can have it running inside too 1133475680 M * Bertl micah: ping! 1133475705 M * infowolfe Bertl, ooh, new stuff ;-) 1133475723 A * infowolfe still hunts for someone that has a slackware install 1133475750 M * litage the host is running 2.6.12 1133475867 M * litage thanks for that tip guys 1133475871 M * micah Bertl: pong? 1133476102 M * Bertl micah: do you mind if I query you in private? 1133476348 M * micah Bertl: not at all 1133476373 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-189.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1133478717 M * Bertl morning Aiken! 1133478724 M * Bertl okay, dinner time ... back later 1133478731 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1133478737 M * infowolfe Bertl_oO, ooh 1133478739 M * infowolfe crap 1133478756 A * infowolfe just goes about his own business then 1133478975 M * daniel_hozac you'll get a reply quicker if you leave your message after the beep ;) 1133478986 M * daniel_hozac *beeep* 1133479646 M * infowolfe daniel_hozac, do you know anything about how apps/init/style is supposed to work? 1133479757 A * infowolfe is puzzling through how to start a slackware guest 1133481350 N * lilo_ lilo 1133481442 M * infowolfe alright... i forgot how to edit a file in the main server and "return" ownership back to the guest