1133049860 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1133049865 M * Bertl evening folks! 1133050222 M * Cru mornin herbert 1133050240 M * Bertl hey Cru! 1133050332 M * Cru just got up? ;) 1133050692 M * Bertl hmm, no actually I just got 'home' :) 1133050725 M * Cru heh 1133050727 M * michal_ evening Bertl ! why "home " not home ? ;] 1133050738 M * Bertl (home is currently the inn in princeton, so my timezone almost overlaps with the local one) 1133050754 M * mnemoc at princeton to give a talk? 1133050775 M * Bertl nope, well, not primary, I'm here for a cooperation on linux-vserver 1133050816 M * Bertl mef has invited me for three weeks, and here I am :) 1133050841 M * Cru pfft, Bertl is having a nice time at princeton while we have problems finding ours car under one of the snow piles 1133050859 M * Cru s/ours car/our cars/ 1133050879 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1133050880 M * michal_ it is always good to meet personaly, both for social and effectove work reasons :) 1133050889 M * michal_ *effective 1133050947 M * Bertl Cru: lol! 1133051000 M * Bertl michal_: yep, and here are a few folks who have good ideas (and hopefully will contribute) 1133051077 M * Cru well, thats not really funny ;) 1133051550 M * Bertl Cru: I know, I know .. in Austria we had 8" snow right before we left, I had to dig out the car too :/ 1133051646 M * Cru I am in middle west of Germany - having snow here is rather rarely, usually the first time in january 1133051674 M * Bertl soo, what's up for today/tonight (regarding linux-vserver) ? 1133051726 M * Cru had to thrash for the last 4 winter tyres at local tyres dealer today ;) 1133051784 M * Cru seems everything is running just fine - there were no complaints during the last hour ;) 1133051969 M * Bertl good, good :) 1133052836 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497728E.dip.t-dialin.net 1133052886 M * Bertl welcome Viper0482! 1133056012 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1133056960 M * mef hey bertl 1133057123 Q * mef Remote host closed the connection 1133060366 Q * blabloe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133061299 J * sebi ~sebi@Fd7b7.f.strato-dslnet.de 1133061307 M * Bertl welcome sebi! 1133061406 Q * sebi_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133062466 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1133064693 M * Cru bbl 1133064699 Q * Cru Quit: use Unices; $live->free() || die; 1133064708 J * MaDa ~xx@p54985E2C.dip.t-dialin.net 1133064714 M * Bertl welcome MaDa! 1133064718 M * MaDa hi 1133064732 M * MaDa can anyone help me? 1133064746 M * Bertl depends on your illness :) 1133064759 M * MaDa starting vserver gets /proc/uptime not accesable 1133064770 M * Bertl did you run vprocunhide? 1133064775 M * MaDa but setattr -> function not implemented 1133064792 M * MaDa yes -> function not implemented 1133064794 M * Bertl hmm, wrong kernel/tools? 1133064812 M * MaDa 2.6.12 1133064813 M * MaDa debian 1133064822 M * Bertl give the testme.sh script a try and plz upload the output somewhere (e.g. pastebin.com) 1133064875 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1133064894 M * MaDa ok 1133065062 M * MaDa ok, i can send you through dcc, itīs not big 1133065086 M * Bertl but I'd prefer the pastbin service :) 1133065090 M * MaDa ok 1133065125 M * Bertl (or some url, if you prefer that) 1133065178 M * MaDa is pasted->pastebin 1133065191 M * mnemoc MaDa: you have to give the url :) 1133065201 M * Bertl nope, I ahve it 1133065205 M * MaDa http://pastebin.com/439382 1133065230 M * Bertl MaDa: well, you ahve to install a linux-vserver patched kernel 1133065243 M * Bertl MaDa: your current kernel does not have the patch 1133065278 M * MaDa i used the manual http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/ 1133065311 M * Bertl yes, I heard of that one (and others) unfortunately most of them are outdated or slightly wrong ... 1133065325 M * MaDa is there aīn actual one? 1133065342 M * MaDa itīs my first time ;) 1133065345 M * Bertl yes, on the main site (linux-vserver.org) documentation is a 'getting started' 1133065359 M * MaDa ok, iīll use this, thx 1133065390 M * Bertl here is a good step by step one: 1133065392 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6 1133065416 M * Bertl basically it boils down to: 1133065422 M * MaDa thank you 1133065427 M * Bertl - get a recent kernel.org kernel 1133065442 M * Bertl - patch it with the proper linux-vserver patch 1133065456 M * Bertl - configure, compile and install the kernel 1133065471 M * Bertl - get recent tools (util-vserver 0.30.209) 1133065531 M * MaDa ok, i hope iīll get it 1133065556 M * MaDa itīs a very nice thing 1133065565 M * MaDa for servers 1133065673 M * MaDa bye 1133065701 Q * MaDa Quit: 1133066743 M * dlippolt Bertl: ping 1133066748 M * Bertl dlippolt: pong! 1133066775 M * dlippolt Bertl: did you see the email on the list from james maclean re: multicast 1133066783 M * Bertl dlippolt: had a look at the traces, but the one looked fine 1133066816 M * dlippolt Bertl: he's running vs2.1-rc1, and multicast works for him. i think you also mentioned i'd have to run the 2.1 series to get it to work correctly 1133066822 M * dlippolt Bertl: just wondered what ur thoughts were 1133066854 M * Bertl well, no, actually 2.1 is not different from 2.0.1 in this regard (at least I think so) 1133066887 M * dlippolt Bertl: i'm running: patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0.diff 1133066941 M * dlippolt Bertl: would you say that 2.0 is different from 2.0.1 ? 1133066968 M * Bertl hmm, those are (basically) the differences: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-2.0.1/ 1133067085 M * dlippolt dont see any likely culprits 1133067109 M * Bertl me neither ... 1133067168 M * dlippolt do you think it might be a difference with how legacy configs are handled? 1133067242 M * Bertl could be ... but as I said, from your traces, the one where the multicast is the first one, I don't see any failures ... 1133067367 M * dlippolt well, no likely causes, but the fact that the packets dont show up to the client is a failure :) 1133067451 M * Bertl do we have simple test tools by now (including a test procedure)? 1133067474 M * dlippolt yes 1133067480 M * dlippolt its what we used to produce the straces 1133067501 M * Bertl okay, can you hand me the urls, plz? 1133067508 M * dlippolt sure, one sec 1133067659 M * dlippolt https://www.moverotech.com/usersites/dlippolt/vserver/mcast-tools/ 1133067964 M * dlippolt does the bcapabilities file take options in the form of NET_ADMIN or CAP_NET_ADMIN 1133067973 M * dlippolt or both 1133068031 M * Bertl IIRC, both 1133068512 M * dlippolt using the new configs, are there other options you'd want to set for the multicast interface other than ip (containing ip) and nodev (containing nothing) ? 1133068544 M * Bertl hmm, nope 1133068649 M * dlippolt hmm, ok its working enabling all maclean's capabilities (i.e. not just broadcast and net_admin) 1133068657 M * dlippolt maybe libpcap 1133068781 M * dlippolt ok, this is strange 1133068804 M * dlippolt now its working even with only net_admin and broadcast set 1133068815 M * dlippolt the only other change is i added some text to the nodev file 1133068823 M * dlippolt instead of just touching it 1133069029 M * dlippolt ok... this is very strange. now its working in exactly the same config as yesterday which wasn't working 1133069078 M * Bertl interesting ... 1133069254 M * Bertl btw, here are the tools (with dietlibc Makefile) http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/multi-0.01.tar.bz2 1133069267 M * Bertl okay, I guess I'm off to bed now ... back tomorrow evening 1133069272 M * dlippolt take care 1133069300 M * Bertl dlippolt: cya, and if it really works as expected, please post a followup ... 1133069310 M * Bertl night everyone ... 1133069318 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1133072870 Q * yungyuc Quit: leaving 1133073555 J * jfl ~jfl@p281-adslbkksp4.C.csloxinfo.net 1133073646 M * jfl I cannot find the manual page 'vserver-build'. I am running LinuxTLE, an FC3 based linux, and the 2.6.11 kernel and vserver with the util .209 utilities. 1133073663 M * jfl I would just like to set up a guest server 1133073730 M * jfl hello? 1133073766 M * jfl I'll try the list. 1133074887 M * Hollow jfl: 1) be patient, we're not omni-potent in here... 2) try vserver build (vserver --help) 1133074961 M * jfl sorry, I'm in Thailand and I thought everyone else might be asleep. I will try! 1133075030 M * Hollow jfl: also look here http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation 1133075053 M * Hollow there are many howtos explaining different distros and how to setup a vserver with it 1133075512 M * jfl The howto for FC3 suggests "vserver servername build -m apt-rpm --hostname=servername.mydomain.tld --interface eth0:1.2.3.4/24 -- -d fc3", but when I substitute the local parameters for that I get vserver dns build -m apt-rpm --hostname=dns.kic.muangchiangrai.net --interface eth1:10.0.0.3/24 -- -d fc3 1133075513 M * jfl Reading Package Lists... Done 1133075513 M * jfl Building Dependency Tree... Done 1133075513 M * jfl Reading Package Lists... Done 1133075513 M * jfl Building Dependency Tree... Done 1133075515 M * jfl E: Couldn't find package glibc 1133075517 M * jfl . and I don't really understand the options I've given on the command line, so I don;t know how to fix that. 1133075574 M * Hollow hm, i'm not that familar with apt-rpm.. does it only happen if you try to build fc3 or with every apt-rpm? 1133075642 M * Hollow also.. for fedora i'd rather try the yum method, iirc it's their standard package manager 1133075755 M * daniel_hozac indeed, apt isn't supported by any of the official mirrors anymore. 1133075916 M * jfl This is my first attemp to build a guest server under 2.6 so I don't know. I have no guest servers running now. I will try yum for apt-get? 1133075973 M * jfl I have no yum. 1133076059 M * jfl what are the possible arguments to build? especially the -m possibilities? 1133076071 M * daniel_hozac vserver - build --help 1133078980 M * jfl Now, no matter what argument I supply via -m I get an error from the functions script: 1133078986 M * jfl vserver dns build -m yum --hostname=dns.kic.muangchiangrai.net --interface eth1:10.0.0.3/24 -- -d fc3 1133078987 M * jfl /usr/local/lib/util-vserver/functions: line 206: -n: command not found 1133079275 M * daniel_hozac line 216 of /usr/lib/util-vserver/functions, add error between colorize and echo 1133079309 M * daniel_hozac s!/usr!/usr/local! 1133082301 M * jfl thanks 1133082319 Q * jfl Quit: Leaving 1133082345 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1133082377 J * Hollow ~hollow@82.135.28.84 1133083554 Q * Hollow oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * shedi oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * Johnnie oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * sladen oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * cryo oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * monrad oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * lonewolff oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * entroposcope oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * FaUl oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * sizo oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * DaCa oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * TheSeer oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * dlippolt oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * Pazzo oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083554 Q * Greek0 oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1133083643 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host86-128-133-145.range86-128.btcentralplus.com 1133083672 J * sizo janek@openbug.org 1133083718 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1133083885 J * dlippolt ~dlippolt@cpe-70-112-77-129.austin.res.rr.com 1133083975 J * FaUl RC2wWqu0IK@verbrennung.org 1133084164 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1133084181 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54973E4C.dip.t-dialin.net 1133085244 Q * Hollow Killed (oxygen.oftc.net (Nick collision (new))) 1133085244 J * Hollow ~hollow@82.135.28.84 1133085244 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net 1133085244 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1133085244 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1133085244 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1133085244 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com 1133085244 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1133085354 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146 1133085377 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 483 seconds 1133085388 Q * TheSeer Ping timeout: 483 seconds 1133085391 Q * DaCa Ping timeout: 483 seconds 1133085396 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1133085410 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1133085572 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1133085660 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1133085690 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1133085817 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1133088311 M * sizo moin 1133089260 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.24.241.34 1133089264 M * NikDaPhreak hi all 1133090995 J * id ~id@p54A03126.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1133091004 M * id heyjo 1133091529 Q * id Quit: Leaving 1133095672 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1133096601 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-213-6.hive.is 1133096799 Q * eyck Remote host closed the connection 1133096838 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1133096884 J * Venomous Venom-One@host207-156.pool8255.interbusiness.it 1133096892 M * Venomous hi all guys 1133096901 M * Venomous a virtual server doesn't want shut down 1133096906 M * Venomous how proceed? 1133096937 M * Venomous here the debug 1133096942 M * Venomous vserver vslack10 stop 1133096942 M * Venomous vkill: vc_ctx_kill(): No such process 1133096942 M * Venomous A timeout or other error occured while waiting for the synchronization 1133096942 M * Venomous signal from vserver 'vslack10'. 1133096942 M * Venomous The vserver will be killed nevertheless... 1133096943 M * Venomous Vserver '/etc/vservers/vslack10' still running unexpectedly; please investigate it manually... 1133096943 M * Venomous umount: .: not mounted 1133096945 M * Venomous umount: .: not mounted 1133096945 M * Venomous umount: .: not mounted 1133096947 M * Venomous RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address 1133096947 M * Venomous RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address 1133096953 M * Venomous can someone help me? 1133097319 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: you can vkill all the proccesses by hand 1133097345 M * NikDaPhreak Usage: vkill [--xid|-c ] [-s ] [--] * 1133097383 M * NikDaPhreak to find out which proccesses to kill you might do vps aux | grep vslack10 1133097400 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net 1133097433 M * Venomous too late 1133097446 M * Venomous i have deleted all file inside /var/run/ 1133097451 M * Venomous now i have rebooted all 1133097456 M * Venomous hope all will works now 1133097465 M * Venomous aniway tahnks 1133097478 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: well... better late than never ;-) 1133097506 M * NikDaPhreak UR wellcome :-) 1133097575 M * Venomous NikDaPhreak: give me a hand 1133097578 M * Venomous [root@bronco root]# vserver vslack10 start 1133097578 M * Venomous vc_new_s_context(): Function not implemented 1133097578 M * Venomous vc_new_s_context(): Function not implemented 1133097578 M * Venomous /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by 1133097578 M * Venomous procfs-security. Please read the FAQ for more details 1133097579 M * Venomous http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=Linux-Vserver+FAQ 1133097588 M * Venomous what happened? 1133097708 M * Venomous no 1133097722 M * Venomous seeme that i have reboted with the default kernel 1133097723 M * Venomous dammi 1133097776 M * NikDaPhreak looks the same way to me :-) 1133098231 M * Venomous now 1133098237 M * Venomous mysqld doesn't want start 1133098243 M * Venomous because i have deleted the pid 1133098245 M * Venomous dammit 1133098294 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: is it the only reason? 1133098325 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: AFAIK if you run mysql for the first time it has no pid written, so that sould not be an issue 1133098398 M * Venomous Nik 1133098399 M * Venomous no 1133098406 M * Venomous seem that it cant bind 1133098408 M * Venomous Bind on unix socket: Permission denied 1133098411 M * Venomous why? 1133098556 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: try adding to /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld SKIP=--skip-networking, or just remove the comment infront 1133098599 M * Venomous ok 1133098606 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: if mysql tries to bind to 127.0.0.1 and the loopback is not allowed within your vserver, mysql fails with this error 1133098619 M * Venomous put only mysql fail 1133098656 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: if you do need network access to mysql try binding the mysqld to the IP you assign to the vserver (in /vserver/vserver-name/etc/my.cnf) 1133098673 M * NikDaPhreak mysqld or mysql? 1133098795 Q * PerlOffice Read error: Operation timed out 1133098936 M * derjohn May may add 127.0.0.2 as interface 1 and bind mysql to that. if you bind to ip you're open to the world ... 1133099008 M * derjohn look at /etc/vservers/foo/interfaces/0 on the host , copy the dir "0" to "1" and change the content, restart vserver 1133099161 M * Venomous no 1133099163 M * Venomous dammit 1133099172 M * Venomous Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission denied 1133099183 M * Venomous this is the first time that happen 1133099202 M * Venomous Do you already have another mysqld server running on socket: /var/run/mysql/mysql.sock ? 1133099202 M * Venomous 051127 13:47:49 Aborting 1133099305 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: ls /vserver/vserver-name/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock 1133099318 M * NikDaPhreak does it exist? 1133099536 M * Venomous no 1133099539 M * Venomous doesn't exist 1133099593 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: is it a frish slackware install or did mysql allready run on this vserver? 1133099686 J * PerlOffice ~stuart@220-253-85-202.QLD.netspace.net.au 1133099957 M * Venomous guys 1133099969 M * Venomous mysql worked until today 1133099987 M * Venomous i can't understand why it doesn't want start 1133099993 M * Venomous on the other vserver 1133099997 M * Venomous mysql started 1133100000 M * Venomous here no 1133100066 M * Venomous look like the port is already in use 1133100069 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: other means this one is a copy/clone of the other? 1133100077 M * Venomous no 1133100087 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: frish install? 1133100091 M * Venomous htpd start 1133100096 M * Venomous ftp start 1133100101 M * Venomous postfix start 1133100104 M * Venomous mysql no 1133100118 M * Venomous all happened today 1133100126 M * Venomous i was not able to kill this vserver 1133100133 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: the port might be used by mysql on the host 1133100215 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: or if you try to start mysql on an IP address, which also belongs to another context and you have a running mysqld there 1133100218 M * Venomous damn 1133100234 M * Venomous no 1133100237 M * Venomous no 1133100323 M * NikDaPhreak last guess: ownership of /var/lib/mysql/* 1133100338 M * Venomous mysql.mysql 1133100342 M * Venomous im' lost 1133100347 M * Venomous other vserver works 1133100349 M * Venomous this no 1133100375 M * NikDaPhreak ok, try running /usr/libexec/mysqld 1133100391 M * NikDaPhreak oops.. don't forget an & at the end 1133100402 M * Venomous and when i try to stop it 1133100406 M * Venomous i get ever this error 1133100409 M * Venomous vkill: vc_ctx_kill(): No such process 1133100419 M * NikDaPhreak it sould either start or give some useful error messages 1133100435 M * NikDaPhreak Venomous: hm... looks like the virtual server did not start properly 1133100469 M * Venomous on start 1133100471 M * Venomous no oerror 1133100515 M * NikDaPhreak do you run only the mysqld within this context or also some other processes? 1133100588 M * Venomous apache 1133100591 M * Venomous postfix 1133100618 M * Venomous #/usr/libexec/mysqld 1133100619 M * Venomous 051127 14:11:43 Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission denied 1133100619 M * Venomous 051127 14:11:43 Do you already have another mysqld server running on socket: /var/run/mysql/mysql.sock ? 1133100619 M * Venomous 051127 14:11:43 Aborting 1133100619 M * Venomous 051127 14:11:43 /usr/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown Complete 1133100787 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1133100848 M * NikDaPhreak ownership of /var/run/mysql? should be mysql.mysql 1133100995 M * Venomous yes 1133100997 M * Venomous is all done 1133101005 M * Venomous mysql.mysq is the ownership 1133101262 J * Doener doener@i5387DC20.versanet.de 1133101435 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1133101438 M * Bertl morning folks! 1133101443 M * Venomous i'm an idiot 1133101450 M * Venomous someone write it on the wiky 1133101465 M * Bertl Venomous: probably not ... just confused .. 1133101484 M * Venomous the ownership of /var/run/mysq was not of mysql....so the error 1133101494 M * Venomous thanks Bertl 1133101531 M * Venomous i know what is happened 1133101535 M * Venomous today 1133101543 M * Venomous i have edited the file fstab of the vserver 1133101557 M * Venomous and this hs caused the problem 1133101560 M * Venomous i think 1133101582 M * Venomous because todady has been the first time that i ave been a problem shutting down the vserver 1133101586 M * Venomous i have did this 1133101593 M * Venomous because /tmp was full 1133101601 M * Venomous due a my cache directory of php 1133101607 M * Venomous now is running 1133101652 M * Doener morning Bertl! 1133101666 M * Bertl morning Doener! LTNS! 1133101679 M * Doener yeah, incompatible tz ;) 1133101700 M * Bertl lol :) 1133101721 M * Bertl okay, off to philadelphia today ... back in the (later) evening ... 1133101741 M * Bertl have fun, and prepare for heav ngnet work the next week(s) 1133101746 M * Bertl *heavy* 1133101768 M * Doener philly? wow... 1133101782 M * Doener what's up there? 1133101790 M * Bertl well, it's 'around the corner' ... 1133101806 M * Bertl whole NJ is 200km in total ... 1133101833 M * Doener hm? you're not in vienna? 1133101845 A * Doener is totally out of date... 1133101846 M * Bertl ah, no, atm, I'm in Princeton :) 1133101876 M * Bertl mef invited me here for some cooperation on ngnet and related stuff 1133101907 M * Bertl anyway, moving out ... :) 1133101912 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1133101913 M * Doener ok, have fun and cya 1133101919 M * Bertl_oO yup, cya 2 1133102262 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1133106063 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1133106429 J * Doener doener@i5387DC20.versanet.de 1133107880 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133108719 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54973E4C.dip.t-dialin.net 1133109280 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1133111304 J * oliwel ~mail-at-o@host-62-245-151-178.customer.m-online.net 1133111319 M * oliwel evening all together 1133111449 M * daniel_hozac evening 1133111459 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1133111483 M * oliwel Hi 1133112934 M * dlippolt Question: does the new style config support re/bind mounting the host's /mnt/netlib to the guest /mnt/netlib ? (i.e. mount --bind /mnt/netbin /vservers/vXXX/mnt/netbin) 1133112988 M * dlippolt i've tried using the fstab, and scripts, but no love so far 1133113067 M * TheSeer you need to do that with the matching namespace 1133113081 M * dlippolt k thx 1133113099 M * TheSeer vnamespace -e $CTX mount -o bind /path /vservers/fooo/path 1133113123 M * TheSeer whereas $CTX is the context id of the vserver 'fooo' 1133113279 M * dlippolt how does that fit into the context of the /usr/local/etc/vservers/foo/ config files? i.e. how do you make said change persistent 1133113397 M * dlippolt or do you just use the scripts, and sed/awk the CTX number from vserver-stat 1133113720 M * Doener dlippolt: using the config fstab with "bind" as option should work 1133113763 M * dlippolt fstab didn't work. error: 1133113764 M * dlippolt secure-mount: chdir("/vservers/v237/mnt/netbin"): No such file or directory 1133113764 M * dlippolt /usr/local/etc/vservers/v237/fstab:4:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1133113805 M * Doener the source is relative to the host's root, the target is relativ to the guest's root 1133113822 M * Doener i.e. you'd need /mnt/netbin /mnt/netbin auto bind 0 0 1133113841 M * dlippolt ah, def. screwd that up then 1133113940 M * dlippolt that doesn't seem to work 1133113956 M * dlippolt no errors on vserver start/stop, but /mnt/netbin is empty when i enter vserver 1133113988 M * dlippolt the whole story: i'm shfs mounting /mnt/netbin to anotherhost:/exports/netbin on the host os 1133113997 M * dlippolt then i want to bind that dir into selected vservers 1133114021 M * Doener hm, works just fine here... 1133114030 M * daniel_hozac here too. 1133114045 M * dlippolt entire fstab: 1133114046 M * dlippolt none /proc proc defaults 0 0 1133114046 M * dlippolt none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1133114046 M * dlippolt none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 1133114046 M * dlippolt /mnt/netbin /mnt/netbin auto bind 0 0 1133114065 M * Doener should do the trick... 1133114078 M * dlippolt is it possible that the previous vnamespace mount i executed is conflicting? 1133114098 M * dlippolt i've since restarted the vserver, so that ctx id is now out of scope 1133114099 M * Doener that should've been gone when the vserver was stopped 1133114113 M * Doener namespace was destroyed, so was the mount 1133114144 M * Doener what's the output of: chcontext --ctx 1 cat /proc//mounts 1133114166 M * daniel_hozac wouldn't vserver ... exec cat /proc/mounts be easier? ;) 1133114188 M * Doener daniel_hozac: then virtualization applies and might destroy some information 1133114204 M * Doener as we have something from the host's root as source directory 1133114249 M * Doener but chcontext --ctx cat /proc/mounts should indeed work (not chroot involved -> not virt.) 1133114292 M * dlippolt how do i determine pid-from-vserver 1133114298 M * dlippolt ps wuax isn't showing 1133114304 M * dlippolt and /usr/local/var/run isn't helping 1133114343 M * Doener i just meant some pid of a process running inside the vserver... but try the second chcontext, should do the same 1133114453 M * dlippolt typing: chcontext --ctx 49174 cat /proc/mounts 1133114487 M * dlippolt gives me all mounts on host -except- the /mnt/netbin 1133114496 M * Doener looks good, except that dynamic xids are deprecated 1133114513 M * dlippolt u mean,i should specify them 1133114522 M * Doener hm, was the mount done, before the vserver was started? 1133114549 M * dlippolt recall.... at host bootup time i shfs mount /mnt/netbin to some other host (network share) 1133114555 M * Doener yes, at least disk limits will cause big problems with dynamic xids. 1133114568 M * dlippolt at vserver startup i want to rebind that dir inside the vserver 1133114599 M * Doener ok, so the mount is there when the vserver is started, but it seems not to be in the new namespace. 1133114652 M * Doener vnamespace -n cat /proc/mounts | grep netbin 1133114666 M * dlippolt also interestingly... i shfs two remote shares from the host 1133114678 M * dlippolt when i executed the above cmd the -other- shfs mount was listed 1133114698 M * dlippolt app2:/usr/local/etc/vservers/v237# vnamespace -n cat /proc/mounts | grep netbin 1133114699 M * dlippolt app2:/usr/local/etc/vservers/v237# 1133114726 M * dlippolt app2:/usr/local/etc/vservers/v237# chcontext --ctx 49174 cat /proc/mounts | grep mnt 1133114726 M * dlippolt none /mnt/cluster shfs rw 0 0 1133114747 M * Doener hm, did the host's /mnt/netbin by chance got umounted? 1133114750 M * dlippolt app2:/usr/local/etc/vservers/v237# mount | grep mnt 1133114750 M * dlippolt fsmounter@db1:/exports/netbin on /mnt/netbin type shfs (version=2,rw,rmode=755,mnt=/mnt/netbin,fd=4) 1133114750 M * dlippolt fsmounter@db1:/exports/cluster on /mnt/cluster type shfs (version=2,rw,rmode=755,mnt=/mnt/cluster,fd=4) 1133114771 M * dlippolt the host /mnt/netbin doens't ever get unmounted 1133114782 M * Doener mount lies! check /proc/mounts 1133114793 M * Doener mount just reads /etc/mtab 1133114812 M * dlippolt ah, yes, the host /mnt/netbin is now unmounted 1133114844 M * dlippolt which was surprising to me, i anticipated /mnt/netbin staying mounted in the host AND (due to rebind) in the vserver 1133114890 M * dlippolt app2:/usr/local/etc/vservers/v237# cat /proc/mounts | grep mnt 1133114890 M * dlippolt none /mnt/cluster shfs rw 0 0 1133114907 M * Doener it should not have been unmounted 1133114915 M * dlippolt i concur :), remounting 1133114937 M * dlippolt ok, its remounted now 1133114946 M * dlippolt app2:/usr/local/etc/vservers/v237# cat /proc/mounts | grep mnt 1133114946 M * dlippolt none /mnt/cluster shfs rw 0 0 1133114946 M * dlippolt none /mnt/netbin shfs rw 0 0 1133114974 M * Doener ok, after a restart, the vserver should now have it as well 1133114978 M * dlippolt k 1133115005 M * dlippolt i concur 1133115009 M * Doener and it should never be automatically be unmounted on the host by the vserver stuff. that'd be a (quite serious?) bug 1133115057 M * dlippolt interesting. possibly the vnamespace command? i checked my history, i never manually unmounted it 1133115120 M * Doener no idea where it might have happened... 1133115249 M * dlippolt looking on the flowers page, not seeing how to hardcode the xid's 1133115256 M * dlippolt is it the run.rev symlink name? 1133115277 M * Doener echo 1234 > /etc/vservers/foo/context 1133115291 M * dlippolt doh! 1133115348 M * dlippolt does it have to be numeric? or can it be alphanumeric? 1133115371 M * Doener numeric, it's just like a process id, just for contexts ;) 1133115394 M * dlippolt i name my vservers vXXX (i.e. v237) any reason NOT to make context 237 ? 1133115440 M * Doener you just have to have: 1 < xid < 49152 1133115459 M * Doener so if your vserver names stick to that rule, it's fine 1133115471 M * dlippolt sweet. 1133115520 M * dlippolt new config system is just begging to live on a shared storage system 1133115549 M * dlippolt when we grow to requiring a SAN, i'm looking forward to moving vservers between real hosts instantly 1133115632 M * Doener got to get some caffeine and then get back to work... 1133115731 M * dlippolt thx for help, take care 1133115783 M * Doener you're welcome 1133116128 Q * tchan Remote host closed the connection 1133116164 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1133116195 M * oliwel Any guru's here ? 1133116236 M * oliwel huh ? 1133116289 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1133116626 Q * NikDaPhreak Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133119350 Q * oliwel Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [SUSE 1.0.6-16/20050715] 1133119538 Q * lilo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133119895 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1133121148 J * eyck ~eyck@81.219.64.71 1133121451 J * |Venomou| Venom-One@host207-156.pool8255.interbusiness.it 1133121468 Q * Venomous Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133121497 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1133121505 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1133121656 Q * locksy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133121660 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1133121713 Q * cereal Quit: Serverwechsel 1133121730 J * cereal koepi@217.20.124.153 1133122531 Q * |Venomou| Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1133122555 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.24.241.34 1133122637 M * NikDaPhreak hi all 1133122718 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54973E4C.dip.t-dialin.net 1133122734 J * lilo_ tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1133122905 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1133123455 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1133124673 J * darkie ~info@212-127-137-128.cable.quicknet.nl 1133124675 M * darkie hey 1133124689 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1133124713 M * darkie i know its possible but i didn't quite understand the howto on how to limit a vserver's resources 1133124993 J * tanjix tanjix@office.star-hosting.de 1133125353 J * Hati ~Hati@kw-cpe-062249079079.kabelweb.at 1133125447 Q * Hati Remote host closed the connection 1133127906 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1133128049 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1133128399 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1133129127 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1133129142 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1133129605 Q * Vudumen Quit: pilla 1133129608 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1133130020 J * marl_mobile ~matt@84.92.193.225 1133130166 M * marl_mobile can anyone tell me were to get apt-rpm from? ive been trying to find source/deb files for it so i can create rpm based vservers on my debian host, but none of the stuff ive found so far gives a command apt-rpm :( or am i looking for the wrong command? 1133130210 M * daniel_hozac apt-get, apt-cache, etc. are all part of apt-rpm 1133130273 M * marl_mobile on a debian host? 1133130291 M * daniel_hozac no, because Debian uses regular apt. 1133130310 M * marl_mobile ah, ive got debian as my host os, and want to install rpm based vservers 1133130326 M * daniel_hozac use yum. 1133130334 M * daniel_hozac (or just plain RPM) 1133130355 M * marl_mobile i was talking to Bertl_oO (iirc) the other day and he said the best way (if i could get it working) was apt-rpm on debian 1133130372 M * marl_mobile ive got plain rpm on debian 1133130379 M * marl_mobile will that work on its own? 1133130462 M * daniel_hozac if you download all the RPMs you need for it, sure. 1133130477 M * daniel_hozac apt-rpm on Debian is just asking for trouble. 1133130503 M * daniel_hozac if you want to use one of the automatic tools, use yum. 1133130511 M * marl_mobile so how do i create a vserver using the vserver command and a directory full of rpms? 1133130519 M * daniel_hozac see -m rpm docs. 1133130531 M * marl_mobile ? 1133130557 M * daniel_hozac vserver - build --help 1133130565 M * marl_mobile ah ok thanks 1133130566 M * daniel_hozac rpm section of the methods. 1133130606 M * marl_mobile thanks :) 1133130611 M * marl_mobile found it now :) 1133130718 M * marl_mobile ok anopther question :) can a vserver to tied directly to a hosts network card? e.g. vserver1.eth0 is directly accessable to external machines as the ip on host machine? 1133130737 M * marl_mobile without usnig nat or anything like that 1133130767 M * daniel_hozac vservers are only bound to IP addresses. 1133130785 M * daniel_hozac if that IP happens to be publically accessible, so be it. 1133130791 M * marl_mobile so it could be bond to the same ip as the hosts eth0 card? 1133130816 M * daniel_hozac that'll require using nodev, but yes. 1133130832 M * marl_mobile so say the host could run ssh on port 1234 and the vserver could run ssh on port 22, then both would be acessable from the same ip address just using diferant ports? 1133130845 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1133130852 M * marl_mobile ah thanks, thatll make development a LOT easier :) 1133133450 M * marl_mobile ok i get an error about mount point /etc/rpm doesnt exist, i can see several people have had this in the past but i cant see any solutions, any pointers? trying to install a vserver using a list of rpms with the command : vserver rpm1 build -m rpm --pkgbase /root/iso/ rpm.list 1133133488 M * marl_mobile where rpm.list is a directory listing of all the rpms i want to install 1133134158 M * darkie hey i was wondering (i know its possible but i can't seem to figure out how) how i can limit a vservers recourses (i.e. CPU usage, mem usage etc) 1133134429 M * derjohn darkie, linux-vserver.org , search for scheduler and resources, Look for "rlimits" if you are with 2.6 (not ulimits) 1133134448 M * derjohn darkie, and look at the great flower oage 1133134450 M * derjohn page 1133134451 M * darkie yeah i've tried but i just couldn't figure it out 1133134460 M * darkie i;ve got this page http://linux-vserver.org/Resource+Limits 1133134480 M * darkie but i just didn't really get it honestly 1133134513 M * derjohn what resource do you want to limit? 1133134543 M * darkie at first i want to limit the CPU usage 1133134579 M * derjohn ok. this is a scheduler thing, to a resource thing. 1133134582 M * marl_mobile anyone tell me how to force nodeps (no dependencies) when using the rpm method of install for vservers? 1133134595 M * darkie maybe if you could explain that i might be able to figure out the rest with little to no help 1133134617 M * darkie why not use --resolve-deps to make any dependencies install automatically? 1133134632 M * darkie (at least that worked with Debian Bootstrap install method) 1133134666 M * derjohn root@herbert:~/testcert# cat /etc/vservers/fraud/schedule 1133134666 M * derjohn 14 1133134666 M * derjohn 32 1133134666 M * derjohn 500 1133134666 M * derjohn 200 1133134666 M * marl_mobile im using a local list of rpm files, i know there compleate cus its taken directly from an install cd, i dont have any repos for the distribution at the moment 1133134668 M * derjohn 1000 1133134669 M * derjohn dummy 1133134671 M * derjohn root@herbert:~/testcert# cat /etc/vservers/fraud/bcapabilities 1133134673 M * derjohn CAP_SYS_RESOURCE 1133134687 M * derjohn darkie, this is for you. 1133134702 M * derjohn make those filea and restart the server 1133134715 M * derjohn on the fly you could use "vsched" though. 1133134729 M * darkie i assume fraud should be the vserver's name? 1133134759 M * derjohn darkie, it limits the vserver "fraud" to about 21% of ONE CPU. 1133134762 M * derjohn ye 1133134763 M * daniel_hozac marl_mobile: if rpm says it's not complete, it's not. 1133134793 M * marl_mobile ok i get the following 1133134794 M * marl_mobile warning: /rpm/dev-3.3.13-1.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2 1133134794 M * marl_mobile warning: package glibc = 2.3.4-2.13 was already added, skipping glibc < 2.3.4-2.13 1133134794 M * marl_mobile error: error reading from file /rpm/glibc-2.3.4-2.13.i686.rpm 1133134811 M * darkie Bad content in '/usr/local/etc/vservers/asterisk/schedule'; aborting... 1133134841 M * darkie sorry. forgot the dummy line 1133134844 M * derjohn did you copy all, incl "dummy" ? 1133134848 M * marl_mobile by the looks of it , its aborting cus it thinks somethings wrong with the glibc rpm, theres nothing wrong with it, its just not being instaled 1133134848 M * derjohn hr hr 1133134881 M * darkie according to ulimit its still unlimited. 1133134899 M * darkie so how do i calculate what i should put in the schedule file? how does that work? 1133134906 M * daniel_hozac ulimit certainly won't work for CPU limiting. 1133134934 M * darkie i've used your files daniel. i have Kernel 2.6 with utils 0.30.208 1133135143 M * darkie so how do i calculate whats to go in schedule file? 1133135211 M * darkie it seems to work btw :P i've got a high CPU usage script (basically a never ending loop) which doesn't go above 24.8 %, and 2 gets to 29% added up :-) 1133135412 M * darkie ahh wait. i just found a page :-) thnx