1132185613 M * harry ber ? 1132185682 M * harry Bertl: what flux compensator? 1132185740 M * Bertl well, you probably need one (to get back to the future :) 1132185756 M * harry ah, hehe :) 1132185766 M * Bertl at least Doc. Brown always had one :) 1132185776 M * harry i was gonna make it... but then i remembered... 1132185790 M * harry i needed the last bottle for water... 1132185797 P * yarihm Leaving 1132185808 M * harry so i just decided t stop development 1132185819 M * Bertl lol 1132185844 M * harry would have been nice i've been told ;0 1132185875 M * harry everyone said: beercan!!! 1132185884 M * harry but beer can't 1132185894 M * harry anyway 1132185897 A * harry off to bed 1132185905 M * harry (/me misses gf allready :() 1132186038 M * Bertl dlippolt: ping? 1132186456 M * derjohn Bertl, where can I find out what ngnet will be able to do? I just think about a "router simulator" with n vservers ... 1132186476 M * Bertl yup, should be possible ... 1132186645 M * derjohn you mean, with NG ? So simulate I would need seperate routing tables per vserver (atleast) 1132186668 M * Bertl yep, that will be part of ngnet 1132186699 M * derjohn will be .. means .. the "old" NGnet or "new" (undone) ? 1132186712 M * Bertl the new one :) 1132186750 M * derjohn ok. so "not by now" 1132186771 M * Bertl well, ngnet is in no usable state atm ... 1132186792 M * Bertl but you can 'play' with the test stuff 1132186807 M * derjohn ok. you use linux rt tables pro emulate one per context? 1132186841 M * Bertl nope, there will be full advanced routing support 1132186864 M * derjohn you mean, real routing per vserver guest? own stack? 1132186891 M * derjohn (routing == forwarding in this question) 1132186931 M * Bertl real routing per vserver, shared but isolated stack :) 1132187015 M * derjohn pretty cool. to the vservers ip won't be visisble in the host? (i.e. host isolated from the guest) ? 1132187142 M * Bertl yes, you can consider the 'host' similar to the 'guests' 1132187471 M * derjohn IP-pr0n ;) ... But there is nothing but the code itself as docs? 1132187515 M * Bertl no, not really ... well we did a test run with pazzo yesterday, so you can look at the IRC logs to see the current status :) 1132187992 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now ... have a nice whatever everyone ... 1132187998 M * Bertl cya tomorrow ... 1132188008 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1132188778 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1132189609 J * ryker ~ryker@c-67-176-240-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net 1132190422 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1132190742 J * dddd44 dhb55@218.111.178.108 1132191651 Q * locksy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132194023 Q * ^Cist Quit: Leaving 1132194216 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1132194281 P * stefani 1132197237 J * sebi_ ~sebi@Fd360.f.strato-dslnet.de 1132197336 Q * sebi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132201019 M * dlippolt sorry, we were doing a code push 1132201567 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1132202486 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.47 1132202596 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132202596 N * menomc mnemoc 1132205547 J * jazzanova foobar@S0106000f3d018f36.vc.shawcable.net 1132205548 M * jazzanova hi 1132205564 M * jazzanova how can I give my virtual machine access to /dev/net/tun ? 1132205581 M * jazzanova mknod gives me permision denied. 1132206124 Q * dos000 Quit: Leaving 1132206248 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1132206262 M * Bertl morning folks! 1132206410 Q * ryker Quit: Leaving 1132206557 M * Bertl jazzanova: you should be able to mknod them quite fine on the host 1132207564 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1132207717 M * Bertl dlippolt: np ... 1132207720 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1132207759 M * Hollow Bertl: persistant works :) 1132207927 M * Bertl morning Hollow! 1132207930 M * Bertl great! 1132208250 M * Hollow ok, off to school.. more tests later, cu 1132208258 M * Bertl have fun! cya! 1132208263 M * Hollow haha.. 1132208266 M * Hollow ;) 1132208275 M * Bertl school can be fun! it was for me :) 1132208310 M * Hollow well, it isn't too bad, but i'd rather work on util-vserver :P 1132208679 M * Hollow Bertl: the dlimit_cmd.h header seem borken in userspace... it doesn't know __user 1132208731 M * Bertl hmm ... I'll check that, but that should be defined in userspace too IIRC 1132208764 M * Hollow ok, just test compiled with the new headers, but really off now :P cu 1132208772 M * Bertl k, cya! 1132209111 M * Bertl Hollow: just checked, you might want to include 'switch.h' before the *_cmd.h files, it should define __user :) 1132209946 J * stupidnic ~foo@cpe-68-201-147-69.sw.res.rr.com 1132210023 M * stupidnic in the old style config files I use to use fakeinit to get the vserver to run the inittab file, with the new format for config files, what do I need to set to get the same behavior? 1132210230 M * Bertl welcome stupidnic! 1132210238 M * stupidnic Hi Bertl 1132210249 M * Bertl simple, you set the initstyle to 'plain' 1132210256 M * Bertl (instead of sysv) 1132210275 M * stupidnic /apps/init/style correct? 1132210322 A * Bertl is looking at the flower page ... 1132210339 M * stupidnic it wasn't apparent to me looking at that page 1132210343 M * Bertl yep, that's it ... 1132210346 M * stupidnic it could have been the css though 1132210354 M * Bertl which one? 1132210361 M * stupidnic the CSS ont he flower page 1132210374 M * stupidnic it makes it difficult to read 1132210381 M * Bertl well, I'm using 'weedpage' CSS, looks quite nice 1132210404 M * stupidnic hmmm 1132210406 M * Bertl (there are a bunch of different stylesheets for that page) 1132210419 M * stupidnic are there any additional options that might be needed? 1132210440 M * Bertl typically no, should work out of the box 1132210462 M * stupidnic hmm... doesn't seem to be starting the vserver 1132210466 M * Bertl (don't expect bootup messages, they are usually logged inside the guest) 1132210477 M * stupidnic right 1132210480 M * stupidnic I read that 1132210494 M * Bertl check with 'vserver-stat' if it is running 1132210516 M * stupidnic I see what the problem is 1132210519 M * Bertl if not, then the inittab inside (or init?) requires some changes (but they are not really linux-vserver specific) 1132210533 M * stupidnic I had it working once before... 1132210538 M * stupidnic but didn't realize it 1132210541 M * stupidnic apparently 1132210544 M * stupidnic with plain 1132210548 M * Bertl ah, :) 1132210555 M * stupidnic when I do vserver vs02 enter 1132210568 M * stupidnic it doesn't change the hostname in the commandline 1132210575 M * stupidnic which it does do with sysv 1132210587 M * stupidnic I am changing into the context 1132210591 M * stupidnic I just didn't realize it 1132210607 M * Bertl hmm ... maybe something different is going on ... 1132210615 M * stupidnic I am in the commandline 1132210617 M * stupidnic err 1132210621 M * Bertl 2.6 guests (you are using 2.6)? 1132210621 M * stupidnic in the correct context 1132210626 M * stupidnic yes 1132210628 M * stupidnic that is correct 1132210644 M * stupidnic the host and guests are all debian 1132210645 M * Bertl okay, so 2.6 guests are allowed to change the hostname (inside the guest) 1132210646 M * stupidnic sarge 1132210660 M * Bertl unless you remove that ccap ... 1132210674 M * Bertl so ... maybe the init runlevel startup has done just that? 1132210688 M * Bertl (check inside the guest with 'hostname') 1132210728 M * stupidnic yeah... inside the guest... it still shows the hosts hostname 1132210739 M * stupidnic where as before it showed teh correct hostname 1132210743 M * Bertl try 'hostname karli' 1132210751 M * Bertl then exit the guest, and enter again 1132210763 M * stupidnic that worked 1132210774 M * stupidnic so something in the inittab is setting it? 1132210779 M * Bertl see, the sysv init just does not change the hostname 1132210797 M * Bertl the plain init also executes the system startup stuff 1132210810 M * Bertl (which probably changes the hostname to /etc/hostname or whatever) 1132210823 M * stupidnic bingo 1132210831 M * stupidnic the hostname was copied from the host 1132210839 M * stupidnic debootstrap and all 1132210854 M * Bertl yup, what tool version do you use, btw? 1132210861 M * stupidnic latest 1132210866 M * stupidnic from teh 13thfloor 1132210867 M * Bertl 0.30.209? 1132210871 M * stupidnic think so 1132210877 M * stupidnic let me double check 1132210934 M * stupidnic hmm .208 actually 1132210939 M * stupidnic I thought I grab the latest 1132210952 M * stupidnic any need to upgrade? 1132210954 M * Bertl np, would be interesting to know if 0.30.209 solves this 1132210962 M * stupidnic I can check 1132210972 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/ 1132210974 M * stupidnic it isn't a production machine yet 1132211001 M * Bertl great! just create a new guest with --hostname stuff ... 1132211010 M * stupidnic k 1132211013 M * stupidnic hold on 1132211039 M * stupidnic will this overwrite the .default/debootstrap/uri? 1132211095 M * Bertl hmm, I would say (means guess) no ... 1132211109 M * Bertl but it can't hurt to save it anyway ... 1132211115 M * stupidnic I did so 1132211308 M * stupidnic building now 1132211704 M * stupidnic Bertl: same result 1132211726 M * Bertl okay, if possible, please file a bug report to savannah 1132211733 M * stupidnic no problem 1132211738 M * Bertl thanks! 1132211749 M * stupidnic it just seems to be related to the hostname file created initially 1132211757 M * stupidnic nothing too major 1132211798 M * Bertl yes, but IIRC the debian/debootstrap setup should take car of such things ... 1132211805 M * Bertl *care even 1132211896 M * Bertl okay, leaving now ... back later today ... 1132211904 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1132212579 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1132214704 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132215349 M * sizo moin 1132215439 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE00119572fd49-CM00137186e53a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1132215851 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1132217986 J * arok ~thorsten@p5495939B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1132218333 J * Fuzmo Funzo@CPE0013460bf939-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1132218344 Q * Funzo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1132219729 Q * nokoya Quit: changing servers 1132219749 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1132219964 J * Subdino ~vincent@ALille-251-1-15-11.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr 1132220038 M * Subdino Hi. Can a huge memory usage without any apparent process involved caused by vserver patch ? in the vserver is running apache, postfix, and such "often forking" processes. 1132220090 M * Subdino vserver restart wasn't enough to recover the memory (more than 800MB were used, where usually only 200MB are used) 1132220104 M * Subdino and the vserver patch I use is 1.9.4 1132220129 M * Subdino on a 2.6.11 1132222032 Q * FireEgl helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * aba helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * mnemoc helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * jkl helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * Hunger helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * alexx helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * michal_ helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * derjohn helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * AndrewLee helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * MostlyHarmless helium.oftc.net iridium.oftc.net 1132222032 Q * mugwump helium.oftc.net 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* logger ~rs@84.244.0.15 1132222054 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de 1132222054 J * eyck ~eyck@81.219.64.71 1132222054 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be 1132222054 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1132222054 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1132222054 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1132222054 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1132222054 J * ComplexHo ~ComplexHo@cpc1-brig3-6-0-cust194.brig.cable.ntl.com 1132222972 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1132223107 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1132223375 Q * lilo_ Remote host closed the connection 1132223394 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1132223696 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-203.lhi.is 1132224207 M * SNy Bertl_oO, dlippolt: care for the multicast test program? 1132229211 J * Subdino_ ~vincent@ALille-251-1-73-158.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr 1132229529 Q * Subdino Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132230064 Q * Subdino_ Quit: Lost terminal 1132231123 M * arok OAOC 1132231127 M * arok sry 1132232044 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132232954 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1132233021 J * ^Cist ~x@p54A56040.dip.t-dialin.net 1132233031 M * ^Cist moin 1132233092 M * arok hi ^Cist 1132233163 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146 1132233414 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1132233451 M * Hollow Bertl_oO: VCMD_set_namespace gives ENOSYS 1132233453 M * Hollow [ 288.796944] vxD: vc: VCMD_10_3[1], 123,00000000,0 1132233454 M * Hollow [ 288.796955] vxD: vc: VCMD_10_3[1] = ffffffda(-38) 1132233559 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1132233567 M * Bertl SNy: always ... 1132234422 M * jazzanova Bertl: hi, got you your messeage about mknod just now. The device exists on the host, becuse I loaded the 'tun' module. But it is not there on the vserver machine. 1132234452 M * Bertl well, mknod works on the host _for_ the guest too :) 1132234499 M * jazzanova ah... i need to make it in a different directory on the host ? not /dev/ but /etc/vserver somethig ? 1132234529 M * Bertl yup, /vservers//dev would be a good place, IMHO :) 1132234626 M * jazzanova bertl: ok, i need to create a directory /etc/vservers/aristotle/dev ? it is not there now. 1132234655 M * Bertl not /etc (that's where the config goes) 1132234700 M * Bertl depending on your distro (i.e. debian it's somewhere in /var/lib/vservers, all others it's /vservers) the guests are located in a directory 1132234776 A * harry gonna start all over again with vserver 1132234780 M * harry brand new install :) 1132234792 M * Bertl jazzanova: this dir is usually _not_ in /etc :) 1132234826 M * jazzanova ah, i get it. 1132234860 M * ^Cist well, but you could get there via etc: /etc/vservers/testvserver/vdir/dev/ 1132234869 M * harry bwerk... /me doesn't like mdadm! 1132234941 M * jazzanova ok, great, that works :) thanks. 1132234975 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1132234986 M * ^Cist but still, the directory is not in /etc, just check where the ..vdir link points to 1132234988 M * jazzanova ok, but now i get operation not permitted 1132234999 M * jazzanova Thu Nov 17 13:42:21 2005 us=840958 Note: Cannot set tx queue length on tun0: Operation not permitted (errno=1) 1132235059 M * jazzanova i am trying to run openvpn on a vserver. 1132235104 M * jazzanova do i need to give permission to read and write to the device, somewhere ? 1132235225 M * Bertl probably, but that will lower your security on that guest 1132235250 M * Bertl I'd assume that CAP_NET_ADMIN is required 1132235267 M * Bertl (if so, the guest will be able to reconfigure the host network) 1132235272 M * SNy Bertl: www.bmx-chemnitz.de/~mfr/multirec.c 1132235329 M * Bertl tx 1132235335 Q * yungyuc Quit: leaving 1132235344 M * harry anyone interested in vserver patch for 2.6.14.2 ? 1132235365 M * Bertl hmm? we already have one :) 1132235382 M * Bertl harry: did you 'adapt' an older version? 1132235401 M * Hollow Bertl: any idea why set_namespace throws ENOSYS? 1132235414 M * Bertl if (vx_check(0, VX_ADMIN)) 1132235414 M * Bertl return -ENOSYS; 1132235437 M * Bertl I'd say, so are not in context 0 :) 1132235438 M * Hollow no, i execute it in context 0 1132235442 M * harry Bertl: it's the same as http://harry.ulyssis.org/patch-2.6.14-vs2.2.diff 1132235455 M * harry still seems to work (with 1 small "patch") 1132235473 M * harry extraversion adaptatoin 1132235485 M * Hollow is there a debug switch which shows if i really am VX_ADMIN? 1132235485 M * Bertl k, will have a look at it .. for now, I'd advise to go with 2.6.14.2-vs2.0.1-rc2 1132235500 M * Bertl Hollow: let me check 'other' options 1132235503 M * Hollow ok 1132235514 M * jazzanova looks like openvpn+vserver is on the todo list right now. 1132235520 M * harry Bertl: why not go with: http://www.13thfloor.at/~hallyn/patch-2.6.14-vs2.2.diff 1132235520 M * harry ? 1132235555 M * Bertl because we fixed a bunch of issues since :) 1132235590 M * harry hmm... interesting :) 1132235594 A * harry looks for that one then... 1132235610 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.14.2-vs2.0.1-rc2.diff 1132235614 M * Bertl (stable) 1132235621 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.14.2-vs2.1.0-rc7.diff 1132235624 M * mnemoc Bertl: btw, 2.4.32 is out 1132235646 M * Bertl mnemoc: does the existing 1.2.11-rc1 apply? 1132235658 M * harry Bertl: do i use the rc7 or 2 ? 1132235663 M * harry i would think rc7... 1132235702 M * mnemoc Bertl: i'll see 1132235712 A * harry would be very interested in grsec + vserver patches... 1132235729 M * harry i think andrewg was doing stuff on that matter... 1132235802 M * Hollow we worked on grsec patches for gentoo vserver too, but it's too extensive to keep up to date 1132235803 M * Bertl we have links to all the grsec related sites, but I doubt they were updated recently 1132235835 M * harry Bertl: true 1132235855 M * harry i'll talk to andrewg when he's around... 1132235863 M * harry maybe we can work together.. 1132235871 J * Breaker_uk ~barrix@host86-134-203-121.range86-134.btcentralplus.com 1132235902 M * Bertl harry: great! 1132235908 M * harry right now... just vserver .. 1132236080 M * harry Bertl: i'm gonna go with the rc7 1132236090 M * harry how come there is such a big size-difference 1132236124 M * harry purrrrrrrfect 1132236208 A * harry needs to see if the boss, if he is convinced that vserver is the way to go, can allow me to spend time om merging grsec and vserver 1132236230 M * harry (if i'm smart enough for it :S) 1132236298 M * Bertl Hollow: are you doing the set_namespace from the same task as the create was done? 1132236361 M * Hollow no 1132236386 M * Hollow i first create a persistant context, and the a new namesapce in which the set_namespace is executed 1132236392 M * Hollow s/the/then/ 1132236407 M * Bertl with two different tasks? 1132236411 M * Hollow yup 1132236420 M * Bertl show me the ugly details, please 1132236439 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1132236445 M * Hollow which details? command line? 1132236460 M * mnemoc Bertl: only Makefile failed to apply :) 1132236461 M * Bertl C code, command lines, whatever 1132236470 M * Hollow ok, command line would be: 1132236474 M * Bertl mnemoc: okay, should be fine then 1132236476 M * Hollow vcontext -C -x 123 -f PERSISTANT 1132236484 M * Hollow vnamespace -N -- vnamespace -S -x 123 1132236528 M * harry compiling! 1132236693 M * Bertl Hollow: put some printk() around the check in vc_set_namespace() 1132236700 M * Bertl (in the kernel :) 1132236731 M * Bertl just to verify that you get rejected there, and not somewhere else 1132236742 M * Hollow ok 1132238552 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1132238602 M * matti Bertl: :) 1132238719 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1132238764 M * Hollow Bertl: it fails in vc_set_namespace... i did a little test program: http://home.xnull.de/misc/nstest.tar.bz2 1132238844 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1132239555 M * sizo hey, where can i set the ONBOOT var in the newstyle configtree? I guess only in $vserver.conf but i'm not sure.. 1132239561 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132239776 M * Bertl Hollow: so for some (yet unknown) reason, you are not admin? 1132239785 M * Hollow seems like, yeah 1132239814 M * Bertl check with /proc/self/{status,vinfo} 1132239846 M * Bertl sizo: it's the 'mark' entry (see flower page) 1132239863 M * sizo k 1132239864 M * sizo thanks 1132239971 Q * Breaker_uk Quit: 1132240007 M * Hollow Bertl: i checked with VCMD_task_xid immediatly before set_namespace, it says 0 1132240041 M * Bertl hmm ... 1132240129 Q * yungyuc Quit: leaving 1132240196 M * Bertl Hollow: don't know how that is possible, but the check is simply wrong :) 1132240197 M * Hollow Bertl: it work with set_namespace_v0 1132240214 M * Bertl if (vx_check(0, VX_ADMIN)) 1132240214 M * Bertl return -ENOSYS; 1132240217 M * Bertl should be 1132240227 M * Bertl if (!vx_check(0, VX_ADMIN)) 1132240237 M * Hollow ah :) 1132240251 M * Hollow but why does it work with v0 then? 1132240261 M * Hollow hm 1132240265 M * Hollow it's clear 1132240268 M * Hollow it has to work.. ;) 1132240293 M * Bertl hmm, yes? 1132240301 M * Bertl I'm listening :) 1132240301 M * Hollow but it won't work if you cahnge it, right? 1132240352 M * Hollow v0: only implemented inside a ctx, so no VX_ADMIN, v1: only implemented in VX_ADMIN 1132240371 M * Bertl exactly ... 1132240398 M * Hollow so how do we check? 1132240414 M * Bertl nevertheless it should work after the change :) 1132240416 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-201.lhi.is 1132240423 M * Hollow yeah, but v0 won't work then.. 1132240433 M * Bertl try it ... 1132240438 M * Hollow k.. 1132240541 M * Hollow hm, i should reactivate my qemu installation probably... rebooting.. ;) 1132240544 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1132240836 M * sizo chroot-shopen("/etc/mtab"): No such file or directory 1132240836 M * sizo secure-mount: chdir("/proc"): No such file or directory 1132240836 M * sizo /etc/vservers/fmailscan10/fstab:1:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1132240837 M * sizo ... 1132240839 M * sizo any hint? 1132241019 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1132241029 M * Hollow Bertl: yup, v1 works, v0 doesn't 1132241067 M * Bertl okay, will rearrange the entire check stuff there 1132241073 M * Bertl expect a patch soon ... 1132241085 M * Hollow ok, thx 1132241541 J * hvd ~takeagues@fw-grz.hollomey.com 1132241597 M * hvd any idea where to start debbugging for: 1132241597 M * hvd LANG=C;/etc/init.d/vservers-default stop 1132241597 M * hvd Stopping vservers of type 'default'...Makefile:7: *** target pattern contains no `%'. Stop. 1132241818 M * sizo Bertl; any idea why i cant start my vserver via vserver xyz start ... i'm getting still this : 1132241821 M * sizo chroot-shopen("/etc/mtab"): No such file or directory 1132241824 M * sizo secure-mount: chdir("/proc"): No such file or directory 1132241826 M * sizo /etc/vservers/fmailscan10/fstab:1:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1132241829 M * sizo secure-mount: chdir("/tmp"): No such file or directory 1132241831 M * sizo /etc/vservers/fmailscan10/fstab:2:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1132241834 M * sizo secure-mount: chdir("/dev/pts"): No such file or directory 1132241836 M * sizo /etc/vservers/fmailscan10/fstab:3:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1132241839 M * sizo chbind: vc_set_ipv4root(): Function not implemented 1132241863 M * hvd sizo: my bet missing vserver support or mixuped syscalls 1132241879 P * stupidnic 1132241885 M * sizo ah 1132241894 M * sizo just removed some old fstab entries 1132241904 M * hvd or vdir not mounted ;) 1132241905 M * sizo now only 1132241907 M * sizo chroot-shopen("/etc/mtab"): No such file or directory 1132241907 M * sizo chbind: vc_set_ipv4root(): Function not implemented 1132241908 M * sizo :) 1132241944 M * sizo running on a 2.6.12.6-vs2.0-exec-shield maschine 1132241988 M * hvd cat /proc/virtual/info 1132241999 M * sizo VCIVersion: 0002:0001 1132241999 M * sizo VCISyscall: 273 1132241999 M * sizo VCIKernel: 03000012 1132242092 J * abc ~20520799B@222.218.58.245 1132242095 M * hvd mhh looks ok .. 1132242109 M * hvd vserver-info ? 1132242118 M * hvd vserver-info|grep syscall 1132242133 Q * abc Remote host closed the connection 1132242181 M * sizo vserver(2) syscall#: 273/glibc 1132242187 M * sizo syscall(2) invocation: fast 1132242198 J * _ryan_ ~ryan@85-210-11-178.dsl.pipex.com 1132242223 M * sizo util-vserver: 0.30.208; Nov 16 2005, 16:07:01 1132242258 M * sizo prefix: /local/vserver-utils 1132242258 M * sizo sysconf-Directory: /etc 1132242258 M * sizo cfg-Directory: /etc/vservers 1132242258 M * sizo initrd-Directory: $(sysconfdir)/init.d 1132242258 M * sizo pkgstate-Directory: ${prefix}/var/run/vservers 1132242261 M * sizo Kernelheaders: /lib/modules/2.6.12.6-vs2.0/build/include 1132242263 M * sizo vserver-Rootdir: /local/vservers 1132242305 M * micah sizo: have you tried .209? 1132242313 M * sizo nope 1132242322 M * sizo i'll try 1132242388 M * _ryan_ hi! 1132242394 M * _ryan_ i've just installed vserver on Debian (Sarge) 2.6.12.5 and setup a simple debian guest 1132242397 M * sizo micah; is it in stable? 1132242411 M * sizo micah; i only see # util-vserver-0.30.208.tar [.gz] [.bz2] there 1132242417 M * _ryan_ should I have an /etc/vservers/apache.conf file? 1132242428 M * hvd _ryan_: no 1132242478 M * _ryan_ hvd: ok thx - so where can I change various options for the guest then? e.g. CPU allocation (the buckets thing) 1132242498 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1132242511 M * _ryan_ (oh btw the guest is called apache since that's what I'm trying to run on it) 1132242553 M * Hollow Bertl: is it possible to allow /proc/bus/usb admin,watch and hide iattrs? 1132242554 M * hvd _ryan_: look at the flower page 1132242555 M * hvd http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1132242604 M * harry how does everyone deploy a new vserver instance? 1132242605 M * _ryan_ hvd: ty - looking now (pretty colours!) 1132242619 M * Bertl Hollow: that's usbfs not procfs 1132242654 M * Bertl harry: vserver build? 1132242689 M * hvd hi bertl .. 1132242716 M * harry lol 1132242723 M * harry util-vserver alone isn't enough!! ;) 1132242728 M * harry stupid me :) 1132242743 M * Hollow Bertl: but it seems like procfs does create the /proc/bus/usb dir, or at least usbfs does it through procfs or whatever ;) 1132242863 M * Bertl nope, it's just mounted there 1132242908 M * Hollow hm, odd.. 1132242923 M * matti Heh. 1132242939 M * Hollow because i get EINVAL if i recurse through proc even if i do not cross filesystems 1132242949 M * Hollow because it lists the dir (not it's contents) 1132242959 M * micah sizo: .209 has fixed many problems 1132242980 M * harry Bertl: where is a decent manual for setting up a vserver instance? 1132243078 M * hvd harry: grab an guest image, or use debootstrap (can also be used with verver build) .. 1132243089 M * sizo micah; you know where can i get this release 1132243104 M * harry No build-method specified 1132243109 M * sizo micah; ah got it already 1132243110 M * hvd micah: http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/util-vserver-0.30.209.tar.bz2 1132243111 M * harry ==> /me needs to rtfm some more :) 1132243122 M * micah hvd: actually that should be for sizo 1132243127 M * micah sizo: see what hvd just said 1132243153 M * hvd micah: vserver test build --help 1132243161 M * derjohn harry, vserver foo build --force -m debootstrap --hostname foo.vservers.bla.net --netdev eth0 --interface 80.69.x.y/28 --context 42 -- -d sarge 1132243163 M * micah hvd: ? 1132243176 M * hvd am sorry s/micah/harry/g 1132243213 M * hvd seems mike nik completion is gone .. ;) 1132243242 Q * hvd Quit: strange 1132243270 M * derjohn harry, after that: vserver foo enter , then start base-config 1132243364 M * sizo i'm trying to build the utils with dietlibc, but when makeing the source it stops with 1132243368 M * sizo /bin/sh: line 1: diet: command not found 1132243369 M * sizo any tipps? 1132243427 M * sizo the library is installed.. 1132243580 J * hvd ~takeagues@fw-grz.hollomey.com 1132243662 M * sizo ah now it werks..:) 1132243811 M * harry derjohn: i'm there now :) 1132243812 M * harry tnx 1132243899 J * mejlholm ~mejlholm@port79.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk 1132243906 M * Bertl welcome mejlholm! 1132243916 M * hvd util-vservers 0.30.208 seems to have a bug with multiple dependes on stopping (makefile gets screwed up) 1132243935 M * mejlholm Bertl, thanks :) 1132243966 M * Bertl hvd: have you tried 0.30.209? 1132244013 M * hvd bertl: not yet .. but there was a workaround (using different $MARK) 1132244077 M * harry hmm... is it possible to add a network interface afterward? 1132244179 M * hvd harry: not in a running context but yust add look at interfaces/x/ 1132244188 M * hvd s/add/have 1132244294 M * harry vserver1:/usr/local/util-vserver/etc/vservers/sarge1/interfaces# ls -l 1132244295 M * harry total 0 1132244300 A * harry looks for syntax 1132244530 M * harry derjohn: you there? 1132244561 M * harry --interface 80.69.x.y/28 --context 42 <-- why those 2 ? 1132244762 M * hvd interface gives the ip where you would like the vserver to bidn 1132244771 M * hvd context is optional .. 1132244804 M * Bertl but strongly advised! 1132244832 M * Bertl a) because you will get into trouble with dynamic contexts once you start file tagging 1132244864 M * Bertl and b) because we might remove support for dynamic contexts soon :) 1132244864 M * hvd u should have something like this in interface directory: 1132244864 M * hvd vserver1/interfaces/0 1132244864 M * hvd vserver1/interfaces/0/prefix 1132244864 M * hvd vserver1/interfaces/0/dev 1132244864 M * hvd vserver1/interfaces/0/ip 1132244864 M * hvd vserver1/interfaces/0/name 1132244864 M * hvd vserver1/interfaces/dev 1132244884 M * hvd Bertl ;) ahh .. good to know .. 1132245257 M * harry perl: warning: Setting locale failed. 1132245257 M * harry perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: 1132245257 M * harry LANGUAGE = "en_BE:en_US:en_GB:en", 1132245257 M * harry LC_ALL = (unset), 1132245257 M * harry LANG = "en_US" 1132245259 M * harry are supported and installed on your system. 1132245262 M * harry wtf? 1132245266 M * harry installing locales doesn't help... 1132245271 M * harry i only wayt en_US 1132245344 M * Bertl locales-en :) 1132245360 M * Bertl (or just use export LANG=C LC_ALL=C 1132245381 M * derjohn harry, yes 1132245392 M * derjohn harry, sry ... must work besides IRC ;( 1132245419 M * derjohn harry, your Q is answered already? 1132245432 M * harry derjohn: it is, tnx :) 1132245453 M * harry Bertl: ? 1132245462 M * harry you mean, locale-gen ? 1132245469 M * harry (did that, doesn't help) 1132245471 J * Larsioa ~lars@you.are.the.lamer.la 1132245487 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1132245490 M * Larsioa Hello does vserver kernel-patch-vserver works for 2.6.14 kernel? 1132245569 M * harry vserver1:~# uname -a 1132245569 M * harry Linux vserver1 2.6.14.2-vs2.1.0-rc7-harry #2 SMP Thu Nov 17 16:15:24 CET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux 1132245602 M * Larsioa so it does. 1132245603 M * Larsioa cool 1132245619 M * ^Cist harry, dpkg-reconfigure locales might help 1132245646 M * ^Cist harry, or just clean out /etc/environment (if this is a debian system) 1132245672 M * derjohn Larsioa, kernel-patch-vserver -> the deb package? 1132245677 M * Larsioa derjohn: yes. 1132245764 M * derjohn Suggests: linux-source-2.6.12 1132245776 M * derjohn Larsioa, Version: 2.0 1132245803 M * Larsioa so cant i patch linux-source-2.6.14-2-686 with vserver 1132245809 M * Larsioa from the kernel-patch-vserver deb 1132245811 M * derjohn dunno if it also applied to 2.6.14. The bertilla-sources apply to vanilla kernels cleanly 1132245816 M * harry why is it, that when i do: hostname it works when i log out and in again 1132245821 M * harry but not when i restart the vserver 1132245828 M * harry (/etc/hostname in the vserver is correct) 1132245841 M * derjohn harry, this is dirty 1132245855 M * Larsioa harry: how did you patch your 2.6.14 kernel with vserver 1132245857 M * derjohn harry, look in /etc/vservers/ 1132245865 M * ^Cist dirty harry :) 1132245874 M * derjohn ^Cist, a pun ;) 1132245974 M * harry Larsioa: download the patch? ;) 1132245984 M * Larsioa harry: is the kernel-patch-vserver deb fine? 1132245984 M * harry 14:53 < Bertl> http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.14.2-vs2.1.0-rc7.diff 1132246007 M * harry damn, i'm gonna be late... /me gotta go 1132246014 M * harry be back later, sry Larsioa ! 1132246014 M * Larsioa where should it be placed 1132246016 M * Larsioa in /usr/src 1132246017 M * Larsioa ? 1132246021 M * Larsioa Bertl 1132246051 M * derjohn Larsioa, the bertilla-one or debian's ? 1132246070 M * Larsioa the bertilla-one 1132246077 M * Larsioa for 2.6.14 1132246092 M * Larsioa "/usr/src/kernel-patches/diffs" 1132246097 M * Larsioa and then into vserver/ 1132246099 M * Larsioa right? 1132246104 M * derjohn so into /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.14/ and do a patch -p1 -i patch-2.6.14.2-vs2.1.0-rc7.diff 1132246139 M * derjohn then make-ppkg buildpackage -foo -bar .. 1132246153 M * Larsioa cool worked. 1132246155 M * derjohn besides that you can grab my ready made debs 1132246159 M * Larsioa thanks 1132246160 M * derjohn for 2.6.14 1132246167 M * derjohn linux-vserver.derjohn.de 1132246178 M * derjohn das a known good 2.6.14 1132246240 M * Larsioa Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Nov 18 00:46:50 2005 ... 1132246240 M * Larsioa localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold 1132246240 M * Larsioa Message from syslogd@localhost at Fri Nov 18 00:46:50 2005 ... 1132246240 M * Larsioa localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode 1132246241 M * Larsioa hm wtf. 1132246256 M * hvd poewrmanagemetn ? 1132246260 M * hvd powermanagement ? 1132246327 M * derjohn coler stuck? old kernel didn't activate acpi ? 1132246334 M * derjohn cole = cooler :) 1132246341 M * Larsioa M/B Temp: +24°C (low = +127°C, high = +127°C) sensor = thermistor 1132246345 M * Larsioa CPU Temp: +45°C (low = +127°C, high = +127°C) sensor = diode 1132246347 M * Larsioa looks fine. 1132246354 M * hvd 127 °C for alarm is cool ;) 1132246363 M * Larsioa hehe 1132246369 M * derjohn hvd, low = +127 ! 1132246377 M * derjohn im freezing in hell ;) 1132246510 J * Doener doener@i5387D40B.versanet.de 1132246516 M * Doener evening! 1132246521 M * hvd moring ;) 1132246534 M * Doener heh :) 1132246885 M * hvd anyone using cfengine to manage vservers ? 1132246942 M * Larsioa whats cfengine? 1132246967 M * derjohn Larsioa, cool fan engine 1132246974 M * hvd configuration engine ;) 1132246996 M * derjohn hvd, untarned me ;) 1132247013 M * hvd sorry ;) 1132247337 M * Larsioa LD .tmp_vmlinux1 1132247337 M * Larsioa fs/built-in.o(.text+0x3b348): In function `version_read_proc': 1132247337 M * Larsioa : undefined reference to `vx_linux_banner' 1132247337 M * Larsioa make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 1132247337 M * Larsioa make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.14' 1132247338 M * Larsioa make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 1132247342 M * Larsioa when i compile the kernel 1132247350 M * Larsioa hm? 1132247373 M * derjohn Larsioa, I said it will aplly to vanilla 1132247379 M * derjohn not to deb sources 1132247400 M * derjohn your ptach did NOT aplly cleanly 1132247423 M * derjohn find . |grep ".rej" 1132247431 M * derjohn in the kernel dir 1132247440 M * Larsioa ./include/config/ip/nf/target/reject 1132247440 M * Larsioa ./include/config/ip/nf/target/reject/module.h 1132247440 M * Larsioa ./include/config/ip6/nf/target/reject 1132247440 M * Larsioa ./include/config/ip6/nf/target/reject/module.h 1132247440 M * Larsioa ./init/version.c.rej 1132247442 M * Larsioa ./Makefile.rej 1132247462 M * derjohn Larsioa, /Makefile.rej -> don't care 1132247475 M * Larsioa ? 1132247494 M * derjohn rest -> problem (look into the "rej") 1132247513 M * Larsioa wtf are u talking about? 1132247528 M * derjohn ./init/version.c.rej 1132247534 M * derjohn this did NOT apply 1132247548 M * derjohn edit it and you will see problem due to differnences 1132247548 M * Larsioa soo what to do? 1132247563 M * derjohn http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de -> src package 1132247572 M * derjohn or edit ./init/version.c.rej 1132247579 M * derjohn and resolve the issue yourself 1132247584 M * derjohn (not difficult though) 1132247599 M * Larsioa what should i edit/comment in version.c.rej 1132247621 M * hvd Larsioa: use the src package ;) 1132247626 M * derjohn Larsioa, if you don't know how to deal with a diff file ... then it difficult 1132247642 M * Larsioa derjohn: well could u tell? then i could learn something heh ;) 1132247656 M * derjohn you have figure out the necessary change and put it into ./init/version.c 1132247665 M * derjohn and recompile 1132247689 M * Larsioa http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/kernel-source-2.6.14-p3-vs2.1.0-rc7_10.01_all.deb 1132247696 M * derjohn yes 1132247697 M * Larsioa is that the kernel source with the fix? 1132247703 M * derjohn yes 1132247720 M * derjohn it's in production on my vhost "herbert.net-lab.net" 1132247737 M * Larsioa soo ill cp .config from /boot my old 2.6.14-2-686 cfg into the source dir and then make-kpkg and so on 1132247740 M * Larsioa right? 1132247742 M * derjohn you can even look what change in ./init/version.c is necessary 1132247764 M * derjohn yes, but the .config is in the kernel-image file too. 1132247783 M * derjohn it debian's .config + vserver activated 1132247805 M * derjohn ah, and there is a patch for 64 IP Adresses per guest (normally only 16 per guest) 1132247814 M * Larsioa or i can just copy the init/version.c* from your source 1132247816 M * Larsioa too the old 1132247820 M * derjohn look in "patches" dir 1132247843 M * derjohn yes, this would be sufficient with the this version 1132247845 M * daniel_hozac you're using 2.1.0-rcX in production? 1132247850 M * derjohn yes 1132247855 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, yes 1132247882 M * derjohn 6 guests, 3 of that for "playing" , 3 for "lesser important jobs" 1132247892 M * derjohn monitoring, debian apt-proxy .... 1132247906 M * daniel_hozac the stable series are meant for production ;) 1132247909 M * derjohn so, no mission ciritial stuff. 1132247943 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, in debian stable versions are meant for old versions .. so maybe it's an missunderstanding :) 1132247993 M * daniel_hozac Debian sta(b)le should not be used for interpreting stable in other projects. 1132248053 M * daniel_hozac stable merely means "no basically-untested features". 1132248068 M * daniel_hozac (of course, 2.1.0 has gotten quite a bit of testing by now) 1132248102 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, any issues with rc7 so far? 1132248123 M * daniel_hozac then there would be a rc8 ;) 1132248156 Q * hvd Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1132248197 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, puhhh *thumbs* :) 1132248359 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, stable in debian means that the package dependencies are more "stable" - not the software itself. unstable is pertty unstable when it comes to dependenies, but the versions are pretty stable in unstab. (they are even old! (e.g. kde 3.4.3)) 1132248416 M * Larsioa derjohn: ill use your source, i trust you that you didnt patch it with a trojan 1132248416 M * Larsioa ;) 1132248445 M * derjohn derjohn, is now known as 1132248453 M * Larsioa hehe :D 1132248468 M * derjohn you could even diff to you clean strc 1132248469 M * derjohn src 1132248546 J * schak schak@dslb-082-083-043-153.pools.arcor-ip.net 1132249027 M * derjohn Larsioa, in "/patches" there is even a "howto" build. don't forget the initrd option, to be as close to debian as possible. 1132249037 J * oliwel ~mail-at-o@host-62-245-151-178.customer.m-online.net 1132251188 M * Doener daniel_hozac: actually there is a known issue ;) nr_running and loadavg broken somehow 1132251199 M * daniel_hozac yeah, well, there's no fix for that one yet ;) 1132251220 M * daniel_hozac (and has it been confirmed not to be present on 2.0.1-rcX as well?) 1132251287 M * Doener well, question was just, if there are issue, not if they're fixed (then we'd actually have rc8 ;) 1132251307 M * Doener didn't check on 2.0.1 yet... will do so now, brb 1132251309 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1132251433 J * Doener doener@i5387D40B.versanet.de 1132251455 M * daniel_hozac yeah, true, but that issue had slipped my mind. 1132251466 M * Doener same issue in 2.0.1-rc2 1132251526 Q * oliwel Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [SUSE 1.0.6-16/20050715] 1132251531 M * daniel_hozac what are the details? x86_64 only? virt_load required? 1132251582 M * Doener which was the virt_load bit? 1132251608 M * Doener i only have x86_64 smp available, so i can't tell whether it's x86_64 only 1132251627 M * daniel_hozac 0x80000 1132251639 M * Doener not enabled 1132251667 M * daniel_hozac so how do you reproduce it? 1132251681 M * Doener i just start a vserver, always happens here 1132251696 M * daniel_hozac hmm, i see it too now. 1132251735 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.13-1.1532_FC4.vs2.0.1.0.pre2.1 is fine, 2.6.14-1.1640_FC4.vs2.0.1.0.rc2.1smp has -16 for nr_running. 1132251748 M * daniel_hozac (2 processes running in the -16 context) 1132251828 M * daniel_hozac specific to 2.6.14? 1132251855 M * Doener didn't try anything else 1132251878 M * Doener atjola ~ # asd 1132251878 M * Doener bash: asd: command not found 1132251891 M * Doener cause nr_running to decrement. 1132251891 M * daniel_hozac hmm, actually, i was looking at the wrong one for the 2.6.13 kernel (nr_threads). 1132251898 M * daniel_hozac nr_running is 0. 1132251902 M * daniel_hozac in all contexts. 1132251919 M * Doener start for example 'top', increments nr_threads and decrements nr_running 1132251930 M * Doener stopping top then only decrements nr_threads 1132251952 M * daniel_hozac or am i misinterpreting nr_running? is it the processes running _right_now_? 1132251966 M * Doener yep 1132251969 M * daniel_hozac (as in R state) 1132251971 M * daniel_hozac oh, ok. 1132251996 J * oliwel ~mail-at-o@host-62-245-151-178.customer.m-online.net 1132252151 M * daniel_hozac it seems that it isn't getting increased. 1132252168 M * daniel_hozac just decreased. 1132252193 Q * oliwel Quit: 1132252232 M * daniel_hozac start perl -e '$i = 0; $i++ while (1);' in one shell, no change, cancel it, decreased by one. 1132252449 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1132252548 Q * prae Quit: 1132252793 Q * jazzanova Quit: Connection reset by pear 1132254539 Q * ^Cist Remote host closed the connection 1132255197 Q * _ryan_ Quit: Leaving 1132255436 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1132255765 Q * Greek0 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132256347 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-006.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1132256652 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1132257694 M * Hollow Bertl: around? 1132257705 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1132257858 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1132257927 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1132258657 J * lilo tor@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1132259629 M * mnemoc thanks 1132259640 M * Johnnie Well. 1132259650 M * Johnnie I guess the circus is in town. 1132259651 M * Johnnie heh 1132259676 M * mnemoc :) 1132259740 M * matti Hmm... 1132259832 Q * Johnnie Quit: G'bye! 1132259852 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net 1132260170 Q * dos000 Remote host closed the connection 1132260222 M * Bertl Hollow: somewhat ... :) 1132260259 F * Bertl +o mnemoc 1132260264 F * Bertl +o Hollow 1132260273 Q * Larsioa Quit: 1132260282 F * Bertl -o Bertl 1132260294 M * Hollow Bertl: i get a oops when trying to clear VXF_STATE_SETUP: http://phpfi.com/87387 1132260317 M * Hollow it works with other flags though 1132260423 M * mnemoc Bertl: delegating? :) 1132260463 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-73-119-83.dclient.hispeed.ch 1132260492 J * larsioa ~lars@you.are.the.lamer.la 1132260494 M * larsioa powerserv2:/var/www# vserver lars start 1132260494 M * larsioa /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by 1132260494 M * larsioa procfs-security. Please read the FAQ for more details 1132260500 M * larsioa i did compile my server with the patch 1132260520 M * Hollow larsioa: /etc/init.d/vprocunhide 1132260554 M * larsioa worked 1132260555 M * larsioa thanks 1132260584 M * Hollow you're welcome 1132260657 M * Hollow Bertl: hm, maybe i can only remove state_setup in xid > 1? 1132260663 Q * larsioa Quit: 1132260740 M * Hollow Bertl: yup, it works within the context.. 1132261120 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1132261186 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132261380 M * Bertl Hollow: hmm ... strange, IIRC I tested outside ... 1132261428 M * Bertl Hollow: please keep the trace around, will look at it when I get home ... 1132261440 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1132261510 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1132262032 J * Funzo Funzo@CPE0013460bf939-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1132262066 Q * Fuzmo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1132262066 Q * Funzo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1132262082 J * Funzo Funzo@CPE0013460bf939-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1132262179 Q * flock Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132262400 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1132262580 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-006.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1132262704 Q * flock iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * prae iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Johnnie iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Greek0 iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Aiken iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * monrad iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Hollow iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * cryo iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * ComplexHo iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Vudumen iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * dlippolt iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * entroposcope iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Pazzo iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Marchildon iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * click iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * Xav iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * arok iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * tchan iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * matti iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * harry iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262704 Q * sladen iridium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1132262786 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1132262788 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1132262806 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be 1132262810 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1132262828 J * click click@ti511110a080-4155.bb.online.no 1132263043 M * sizo re 1132263095 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1132263215 J * arok ~thorsten@p5495939B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1132263300 Q * lilo_ Remote host closed the connection 1132263355 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1132263522 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1132264542 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1132264545 J * Marchildon ~nicolas@dsl.speedline207.106.electronicbox.net 1132264546 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1132264551 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146 1132264551 J * ComplexHo ~ComplexHo@cpc1-brig3-6-0-cust194.brig.cable.ntl.com 1132264551 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com 1132264552 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1132264552 J * dlippolt ~dlippolt@cpe-70-112-77-129.austin.res.rr.com 1132264553 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1132264554 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net 1132265637 Q * Bertl_oO Remote host closed the connection 1132265666 J * Bertl_oO herbert@212.16.62.52 1132265743 Q * sepp Quit: leaving 1132265997 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving 1132266140 P * mef 1132266680 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1132267008 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-006.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1132267100 Q * Bertl_oO Remote host closed the connection 1132267130 J * Bertl_oO herbert@212.16.62.52 1132267340 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1132267801 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132268688 Q * Funzo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1132269611 Q * schak Ping timeout: 480 seconds