1131580999 M * Bertl hey gerrit!
1131581004 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131581011 M * Bertl welcome Johnnie!
1131581093 M * Hollow hey guys
1131581104 M * Johnnie Howdy.
1131581106 M * Bertl evening Hollow!
1131581205 M * Hollow hey Bertl, i'd like to implement the new init thing in util-vserver soon.. how long would it take to implement it in kernel?
1131581229 M * Bertl which version (gimme a view details)
1131581259 M * Hollow in my cleaned up version, it has no version until now...
1131581267 M * Hollow probably 0.40? ;)
1131581388 M * Bertl no, what I meant is, we discussed a view 'versions' .. which one do you refer to ...
1131581401 M * Bertl s/versions/alternatives/
1131581424 M * Hollow well, i don't have a preference.. but i think the "kernel starts init" approach sounds good, no?
1131581797 M * dos000 darn .. first time start up of the guest is as slow as it can get .. not sure what i have done
1131581829 M * dos000 is it dns issues maybe ... i dont have a dns entry for the guest
1131581872 M * Bertl dos000: very likely
1131582054 M * Bertl Hollow: well, okay, any ideas about the setup procedure?
1131582151 M * Bertl I mean, we can start with a shot in the dark ... and you write some tools, then we adjust to the requirements, if you prefer that?
1131582206 M * Hollow well, since i'm not the expert it would be best probably
1131582218 M * Bertl okay, so be it ...
1131582238 M * Hollow we should also do it unchained
1131582259 M * Hollow because it is planned to do most things unchained in the cleaned up version
1131582285 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1131582295 M * Bertl if the kernel starts init, how would you 'chain' it?
1131582304 M * dos000 Bertl, the step by step guidde does not mention dns editing but i see it in another place. 
1131582319 M * Bertl dos000: maybe add it there too?
1131582322 M * dos000 which has no in depth info
1131582346 M * dos000 i meant it does not explain what to edit .. just says add a record
1131582351 M * Hollow well, not like vcontext --create --xid 123 -- vinit --start, but like vcontext --create --xid 123 && vinit --start --xid 123 ;)
1131582366 M * Hollow so you should be able to start init only from context 0
1131582367 M * Bertl dos000: you know how dns works and what to configure?
1131582409 M * dos000 noob not how to configure :-(
1131582431 M * dos000 scary zone files
1131582438 M * Bertl no, just the resolver
1131582452 M * Bertl either /etc/hosts or /etc/resolv.conf
1131582454 M * dos000 oh .. resolv.conf !
1131582466 M * dos000 cool
1131582504 M * Bertl in any case, you should be able to handle a guest like a normal linux server
1131582513 M * Bertl (just don't bother with hardware stuff :)
1131582793 M * dos000 i am just warming up with the ip issues .. once i figure it i should be on my way !
1131582826 M * Bertl networking happens on the host, guests can be restricted to a number of IPs (1-16)
1131582867 M * dos000 where is the conf for the guest stored ? on the host ?
1131582874 M * dos000 guest ip i mean
1131582889 M * Bertl yep, in the config tree (usually /etc/vservers/<name>)
1131582898 M * Bertl (see the flower page for details)
1131582907 M * dos000 i was looking under the guest
1131582912 M * dos000 ok
1131583044 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131583401 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131583523 Q * hallyn_ Quit: leaving
1131583538 M * dos000 Bertl, forgive me i am trying to assign 192.168.* addresses to the guests while the host has one public address do you know pointers to docs that explain this setup ?
1131583605 M * Bertl you simply use SNAT, daniel_hozac will give you the line :)
1131583756 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131583812 M * dos000 google magic <Bertl> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <localip> -j SNAT --to <outsideip>
1131583906 M * Bertl dos000: yup, looks good :)
1131583973 M * dos000 Bertl, is SNAT enabled by default on the patches ? i am using 2.0.1
1131584003 M * Bertl depends on your kernel config
1131584021 M * dos000 stok 2.6.14 
1131584084 M * dos000 CONFIG_BRIDGE_EBT_SNAT=m
1131584312 M * Bertl that's for bridging only
1131584328 M * Bertl the basic option is full nat IIRC
1131584659 M * dos000 do i need to recompile or what ? 
1131584732 M * Bertl upload your .config file or look for CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=y
1131584736 M * Bertl or module
1131584829 M * dos000 CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=m
1131584829 M * dos000 CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_NEEDED=y
1131584877 M * dos000 cool !
1131584883 M * dos000 you tha man
1131585224 M * Bertl you're welcome! :)
1131586397 Q * prae Quit: Pwet
1131587028 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1131587173 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131589071 Q * Aiken_ Remote host closed the connection
1131589073 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131589288 M * Greek0 Bertl: ping
1131589310 M * Bertl Greek0: pong!
1131589323 M * Bertl Greek0: see, that's a response time :)
1131589345 M * Greek0 saw your limit-fix03, looks somehow nasty, but it's not like I had any better idea
1131589379 M * Greek0 it seems somehow hard to hit times when we both are online
1131589390 M * Greek0 it's strange enough that this time is about 3 o'clock
1131589448 M * Bertl well, I didn't change my online times too much :)
1131589534 M * Greek0 well, I did perhaps (due to changed uptimes), which is probably why we are talking now ;)
1131589601 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131589742 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: NFSv4 and BME don't seem to play nice.
1131589753 M * Bertl ah, interesting ...
1131589765 M * Greek0 anything in particular you wanted to talk about with me?
1131589786 M * Bertl Greek0: sure, but I just don't know right now :)
1131589811 M * Bertl Greek0: but I'm sure we find a lot of things to talk about if you like to do so now?
1131589881 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: any test cases?
1131589906 A * Bertl has to get something to eat, afk, brb
1131589937 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: fs/nfsd/nfs4recover.c seems to be unpatched. i might've used the wrong BME patches though...
1131589939 M * dos000 anyone of you know the correct modules list/order to load to get 2.6.14 doing nating ? anyone can share ?
1131589943 M * Greek0 Bertl: I've got plenty of time ;)
1131589955 M * daniel_hozac dos000: they should all be autoloaded.
1131589991 M * dos000 daniel_hozac, i only have ip_tables loaded ! you mean at start up ?
1131590000 M * daniel_hozac dos000: no, upon use.
1131590044 M * dos000 ok .. now i think i did som'ing wron then. i keep getting "iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `NAT': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?"
1131590063 M * daniel_hozac it's nat
1131590065 M * daniel_hozac lowercase.
1131590117 M * dos000 i spend the last hour trying to fix that !
1131590150 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i just applied all patches in http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/BME/split-2.6.13-vs2.x-bme0.06.1/ in order, compile error on fs/nfsd/nfs4recover.c due to missing arguments for vfs_rmdir, vfs_mkdir and vfs_unlink.
1131590660 Q * Aiken_ Remote host closed the connection
1131590660 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax6-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131590837 M * Bertl Greek0: good, then let's talk ...
1131590874 M * Greek0 ok
1131590897 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, does the problem exist with vs2.1.0 too?
1131590918 M * Bertl Greek0: Hollow is pushing the kernel side init start
1131590927 M * Bertl Greek0: wanna talk about that or ngnet?
1131591015 M * Greek0 could you detail the first one a bit before?
1131591016 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: doesn't look like it.
1131591053 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: try to extract the patches from there, you think you can do that?
1131591077 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i can try.
1131591093 M * Bertl Greek0: well, the idea is simple ... why not start 'init' inside a guest from the ekrnel
1131591150 M * Greek0 ah, sounds neat
1131591171 M * Greek0 any obvious problems with that approach?
1131591191 M * Bertl yep, I'd like to extend that to spawning a new process inside with some kind of terminal to the outside
1131591207 M * Bertl potential issues are:
1131591216 M * Bertl - how to attach/detach such processes
1131591234 M * Bertl - how to setup a context without any process inside
1131591248 M * Bertl - how to specify task related settings for init
1131591293 M * Bertl and in addition to that ... the question
1131591309 M * Bertl should be do a kernel thread inside the guest?
1131591345 M * Greek0 wouldn't (b) (if we number the 3 problems from a-c) be solveable by setting up the context in userspace and then syscall into the kernel with (finish initialisation, enforce security, spawn init)
1131591396 M * Bertl yep, but Hollow would also prefer to avoid chaining where possible
1131591500 M * Greek0 why a kernel thread?
1131591659 M * Bertl was just an idea ... like a 'management' unit
1131591687 M * Greek0 mm
1131591706 M * Greek0 hmm. could we talk a bit about ngnet
1131591718 M * Greek0 it's imho a more pressing issue from the user's point of view
1131591751 M * Bertl sure, no problem ...
1131591770 M * Bertl Greek0: you ahve a QEMU test system at hand?
1131591784 M * Greek0 yes
1131591796 M * Bertl let me upload a patch ...
1131591814 M * Bertl btw, did anybody look at the 2.6.14.1 changes yet?
1131591832 M * Greek0 not me
1131591936 Q * dos000 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131591962 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE0006256d190c-CM0011aeff5db6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131592289 M * Bertl Greek0: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/delta-ngn0.03.diff
1131592298 M * Bertl (ontop of 2.1.0)
1131592512 M * Greek0 mm. sometimes there are coincidences that I find quite amusing.
1131592541 M * Greek0 today I started reading some kernel networking code because I got curious the other day how packets traversed the linux network stack..
1131592571 M * Bertl excellent ...
1131592822 M * Greek0 hmm. I just read ngn_dev_visible and I wondered in what cases it was called with dev==0 and if return 1; is the right case there?
1131592854 M * Bertl well, it's just a crude hack right now
1131592868 M * Bertl we need much better and more detailed checks in the future
1131592885 M * Greek0 mm
1131592889 M * Bertl get the aptch installed, and I show you what it can do
1131592904 M * Greek0 just compiling kernel
1131593107 M * Bertl ah, you need the devtag tool too, let me uplaod the new version
1131593216 M * Greek0 *sigh* kernel compile fails at fixup.c
1131593225 M * Bertl Greek0: okay, in the NGNET dir, also get the vnet.c (from Hollow) in the same dir
1131593230 M * Bertl Greek0: wutt?
1131593233 M * Greek0   CC      arch/i386/pci/fixup.o
1131593234 M * Greek0 arch/i386/pci/fixup.c:401: error: toshiba_ohci1394_dmi_table causes a section type conflict
1131593239 A * Greek0 wonders..
1131593258 M * Greek0 seems to only happen with my qemu config
1131593271 A * Bertl .o( hmm, ohci1394 inside qemu ... )
1131593315 M * Greek0 well, it's kinda unconditional afaics in fixup.c and in the Makefile
1131593850 M * Bertl and? can you fix it?
1131593927 M * Greek0 just looking into it. compiling the kernel with my i386-iphigenie config (the one for my laptop)
1131594045 M * Greek0 argn. works with that config
1131594383 M * Greek0 hmm. 2 channels is obviously too much for me to follow, or better, to always reply to the correct channel.
1131594394 M * Greek0 anyway. the problem is fixed upstream and I'm now building again
1131594405 M * Bertl yep, read that :)
1131594547 M * Greek0 http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d373741976985bc665e75aeb2b3bf7a524e36cc
1131594553 M * Greek0 ^-- the fix, in case someone is interested
1131594838 M * Greek0 is that CTL_ENTRY stuff a recent addition?
1131594847 M * Bertl yup
1131594850 M * Greek0 in kernel/vserver/sysctl.c
1131594859 M * Greek0 seems I haven't got it, since it conflicted here ;)
1131594879 M * Bertl which 2.1.0 did you use?
1131594931 M * Greek0 rc6 as my changlog says
1131594934 M * Bertl maybe I should provide you with a prebuilt kernel?
1131594951 M * Greek0 however that's probably pretty close to prelim
1131594965 M * Bertl the diff is against linux-2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc6
1131595005 M * Bertl what is the error you see?
1131595029 M * Greek0 just a minor reject in kernel/vserver/sysctl.c
1131595035 M * Greek0 already fixed
1131595054 M * Greek0 .. up to the compilation error
1131595123 M * Greek0 hmm.
1131595226 M * dos000 anyone can help me get a vserver going with a public ip ? i dont get it ... this is killing me !
1131595243 M * Greek0 delta-ngn0.03.diff breaks the !VSERVER_NGNET case
1131595256 M * Bertl dos000: hmm, you already found the nat line (google, yes?)
1131595266 M * Bertl Greek0: how unexpected :)
1131595281 M * Greek0 http://paste.debian.net/2702
1131595284 M * dos000 yes but i tried  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 72.36.236.38 -i eth0 -j ACCEPT  thinking that was for private ips
1131595286 M * Bertl Greek0: please enable NGNET :)
1131595300 M * Greek0 Bertl: in a way it was good, otherwise I probably hadn't noticed that I didn't enable ngnet ;)
1131595306 M * Bertl dos000: PREROUTING?
1131595331 M * Bertl Greek0: yeah, one of my strategic plans *G*
1131595386 M * Greek0 it's nice that you take into account my mental state at 5am when writing your patches. it's appreciated a lot, thanks ;)
1131595411 M * Bertl as usual, you're welcome :)
1131595430 M * dos000 Bertl, what else do i need with the snat line ? do i need another line for outgoing ?
1131595432 M * Bertl dos000: get rid of all your iptable entries, except the POSTROUTING one
1131595475 M * Bertl iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <localip> -j SNAT --to <outsideip>
1131595503 M * Bertl then enter the guest, and try to ping something outside (via IP first)
1131595528 M * dos000 Bertl, the thing is i dont want a local ip ... i want the vserver to have a public ip so that nat does not get in the way
1131595554 M * Bertl hum? do you have more than one public ip?
1131595554 M * Greek0 hmm, my enthusiasm was a bit too quick. I just saw CC ... lines scroll by, but I didn't notice those were of other parts of the kernel. the error is still there
1131595564 M * dos000 Bertl, yes !
1131595569 M * Greek0 do I have to apply another patch before that one above 2.1.0-rc6?
1131595592 M * Bertl dos000: so why assign local/private ips at all?
1131595595 M * Greek0 it still talks about missing NX_IDENT and stuff
1131595634 M * dos000 Bertl, i want the machine to have separate guests with public ips
1131595637 M * Greek0 and the NX_BLEND definition is neither in my rc6 tree nor in the delta
1131595655 M * dos000 Bertl, how i do it i have no idea
1131595670 M * Bertl but you have a guest with a private ip yes?
1131595711 M * Bertl dos000: I assume the answer to your question is so trivial, that nobody tries to give it
1131595717 M * dos000 Bertl, i think i can do that. the services running in there need to not go through a nat preferably
1131595725 M * Bertl dos000: just configure the public ip. period.
1131595750 M * Bertl dos000: either when you create the guest, specify the --interface with the public IP
1131595776 M * dos000 Bertl, tow! 
1131595779 M * Bertl or alternatively, if the guest already exists, change the config file inside /etc/vservers/<name>/interfaces/*/ip
1131595787 M * dos000 so no routing is needed then !
1131595791 M * Bertl nope
1131595796 M * dos000 hahaaa 
1131595804 M * Bertl just stop the guest before you change anything
1131595810 M * Bertl then do the change, and restart
1131595837 M * Bertl depending on a 'dev' or 'nodev' entry the IP is automatically assigned on guest startup (or assumed existing)
1131595951 M * Greek0 argh. my tree is fucked
1131596195 M * Greek0 *grml*
1131596203 M * dos000 Bertl, for some reason when i try to ssh into the guest it goes to the host !
1131596211 M * Greek0 I'm going to bed, will look at it tomorrow
1131596216 M * Greek0 (man, I hate interdiff)
1131596223 M * dos000 both are running ssh
1131596225 M * Bertl Greek0: okay, good night ...
1131596235 M * Bertl dos000: no, that's just what you think :)
1131596241 M * Bertl dos000: what really happened is:
1131596256 M * Bertl - you sshd on the host is _not_ restricted to any IP
1131596266 M * dos000 hahaaa
1131596273 M * Bertl - the sshd on the host did bind to 0.0.0.0 (all IPs)
1131596287 M * Bertl - the guest sshd did not start up, because it could not bind
1131596303 A * dos000 hopes Bertl will live hapily forever in an far island with 1000 virgins
1131596331 M * Bertl hmm .. what should I do with 1000 virgins? :)
1131596349 M * Bertl well, maybe they can code :)
1131596372 M * dos000 lol
1131596812 M * dos000 all works .... thanks a milion guys !
1131597091 M * Bertl have fun!
1131597125 M * Bertl ah, and don't forget to add yourself to the Happy Linux-VServer User page
1131597132 M * Bertl (or the Provider page)
1131597314 M * dos000 sure ...  i will !
1131597608 Q * Aiken__ Remote host closed the connection
1131599883 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131600246 Q * brc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131601794 M * Bertl okidokili ... off to bed now ... back later ...
1131601803 M * Bertl have a good whatever everyone ... cya!
1131601807 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1131603018 Q * jebba Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131603421 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131605542 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131606798 J * Larsioa ~lars@83.97.96.195
1131606817 M * Larsioa Hello. Lets say i have to vservers with too different ips. How can i make so i can see how much traffic they use in MB / GB
1131606819 M * Larsioa ?
1131607101 J * brc bruce@201008046152.user.veloxzone.com.br
1131607148 Q * brc Quit: 
1131607286 Q * dos000 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131607310 J * eugenesan eugenesan@bzq-219-189-203.cablep.bezeqint.net
1131609795 M * Larsioa Hello. Lets say i have to vservers with too different ips. How can i make so i can see how much traffic they use in MB / GB
1131610436 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1131611003 J * Doener doener@i5387F2C2.versanet.de
1131611416 Q * jkl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131612545 M * eyck virgins can code?
1131613025 M * harry who was asking for vserver images on a vserver host??
1131613033 M * harry     *  Guest Images
1131613033 M * harry         * [Vserver system images] (Debian, RedHat)
1131613033 M * harry         * [Vserver guest images] (Debian Woody & Sarge, Fedora, Mandrake, RedHat, Slackware, SuSE) - all geared against 2.4.
1131613036 M * harry         [README] for these images. [deploy-vserver.sh] - Script to deploy the images. 
1131613040 M * harry         * [RPM of a patched kernel for vserver+uml (skas), guest images] of Mandrake 10.1 & Mandriva 2005, based on 2.6 kernel.
1131613333 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving
1131613715 M * Larsioa harry me
1131613722 M * Larsioa how do i install a vserver with fx. Fedora?
1131613737 M * harry fx?
1131613765 M * harry http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/vserver
1131613770 M * harry that's what i'm trying now :)
1131614467 M * Larsioa http://www.powerserv.dk/trafik/
1131614471 M * Larsioa finally i found a good script
1131614494 M * Larsioa harry: If i want to install a vserver with Fedora image can that be posibel
1131615514 M * harry sure
1131615515 M * harry why not
1131615570 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com
1131615578 M * Larsioa harry: how
1131615590 M * harry isn't it explained in the manual
1131615641 M * harry ?
1131615646 M * harry i've not done it yet
1131615655 M * harry but as soon as i will... i'll explain ;)
1131615794 M * Larsioa hmm
1131615798 M * Larsioa where in the manual :-/
1131616069 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1131616467 M * Larsioa Hmm
1131616470 M * Larsioa whereis chxid
1131616506 M * Larsioa oh found it
1131616552 Q * yungyuc Quit: leaving
1131616653 M * harry http://linux-vserver.org/ seems to have a lot of info
1131616688 M * Larsioa hmm
1131616720 M * harry basicly... install a system
1131616725 M * harry remove a shitload of crap ;)
1131616731 M * Larsioa when i do chxid -c 50 -R /home/kunder/virtual/hansa it floods the terminal with Invaild arggument
1131616732 M * harry then... magic happens :)
1131616740 M * Larsioa on all the files
1131616775 M * harry well... i'm no vserver expert at all... (i just started testing stuff on it)
1131616790 M * harry so maybe it's better to let someone with more experience answer your q's
1131616796 M * Larsioa hmm okay.
1131617184 M * Larsioa any experts arround?
1131617556 J * dddd44 dhb55@218.111.178.108
1131617680 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131618101 J * dddd44 dhb55@218.111.178.108
1131618135 J * jkl eric@c-67-174-182-65.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1131618577 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131618672 J * dddd44 dhb55@218.111.178.108
1131619036 A * harry still trying to get my first vserver running
1131619047 M * harry how do you DELETE a vserver instance?
1131619070 M * harry just an rm -r /vservers/<name> isn't enough i guess... ;)
1131619228 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131619483 M * BWare vserver NAME stop && rm -rf /etc/vservers/NAME /vservers/NAME 
1131619489 M * BWare Should do the trick
1131620819 M * Larsioa BWare: are u an vserver expert?
1131620841 M * BWare Nah... just another user ;)
1131620915 M * Larsioa Damn
1131622570 J * spunky spunky@rdlax10-b078.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131622627 Q * spunky Quit: 
1131622940 Q * Vudumen Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131623195 Q * romke Quit: leaving
1131623699 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1131625118 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1131625217 Q * yungyuc Quit: 
1131626567 J * ntrs ~ntrs@iits01188.inlink.com
1131626581 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1131627771 J * mrec ~revenger@p54B02D9C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1131628189 Q * mrec_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131630114 M * eyck damn those experts, nowhere to be found when you need one
1131631287 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0, 2.0.1-rc1, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0-rc6 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 
1131631287 T * Bertl -
1131631421 Q * FaUl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131631598 J * FaUl z4ZAeaL5YC@verbrennung.org
1131631599 M * FaUl re
1131631602 M * FaUl narf
1131631608 J * FaUl_ ntT44frQva@verbrennung.org
1131631657 J * daXas ~on@85.96.199.40
1131631808 M * daXas hi all, anyone know that how can i disable a vserver to listen on 0.0.0.0 ? i just one one ip
1131631819 M * daXas it was like that on old versions .. ?
1131631849 M * daXas i mean ip binding ... 
1131631863 M * mnemoc o.o
1131631911 M * mnemoc /etc/vservers/foo/interfaces/00/ip
1131631957 M * daXas i use that file , i see it in vserver , but apache (for example) can still bind on 0.0.0.0 .. 
1131631960 J * iprone ~iprone@65.83.231.99
1131632107 M * daXas umm , can nodev help?
1131632131 M * mnemoc uhm
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1131633797 J * Venomous Venom-One@host139-87.pool871.interbusiness.it
1131633806 M * Venomous hi all
1131633811 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1131633835 M * Venomous hey guys any bash guru here?
1131633899 M * mnemoc you could try to find one at #bash ,-)
1131633912 M * Venomous mnemoc
1131633915 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1131633926 M * mnemoc Venomous: what do you need?
1131633926 Q * yungyuc Quit: leaving
1131633933 M * Venomous i need to replace a string with another string
1131633948 M * daniel_hozac ${var/string/substitute}
1131633953 M * Venomous this string has a lot of white space...and i'm going crazy
1131633974 M * daniel_hozac or just var=`echo $var | sed 's....'`
1131633977 M * mnemoc or ${var//string/substitute} for 'all'
1131633981 M * Venomous i have tried a lot of time
1131634003 M * Venomous i need to move this string inside a file $INFO['set_mode']                        =       '1'; to $INFO['set_mode']                        =       '0';
1131634030 M * Venomous as you can see the line has a lot of white space
1131634031 Q * lilo_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131634037 M * Venomous i don't know
1131634047 M * Venomous i'm not able to substitute it
1131634072 M * Venomous this string appear on 400 files, so i need to automate this task
1131634092 M * Venomous tried sed and replace with no luck
1131634186 M * daniel_hozac awk '/INFO\[.set_mode.\]/ { gsub("1", "0", $0); } { print; }' ?
1131634265 M * Venomous uhmm
1131634268 M * Venomous i can try
1131634298 M * daniel_hozac that's likely to catch other things as well though.
1131634313 Q * Larsioa Quit: 
1131634322 M * mnemoc echo "\$INFO['set_mode']                        =       '1'" | sed -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['set_mode'\] *\)=\( *\).*,\1=\2'0';,g"
1131634330 M * mnemoc ^---- *ugly* but explicit :p
1131634420 M * Venomous wait wait
1131634423 M * Venomous daniel
1131634431 M * Venomous assumin that the file is test.txt
1131634439 M * Venomous how use awk?
1131634465 M * daniel_hozac awk <script> <file>
1131634511 M * daniel_hozac will print it all to the terminal though, so you'll want > <file>.new; mv <file>{.new,} as well.
1131634531 M * daniel_hozac you should probably use mnemoc's line though.
1131634550 M * daniel_hozac sed has -i ;)
1131634574 M * Venomous daniel_hozac: so assuming that the file is test.php how sholud be the line of mnemoc?
1131634586 Q * FaUl_ Quit: leaving
1131634594 M * daniel_hozac sed -i -e "..." <file>
1131634597 M * FaUl hmpf, clone :-)
1131634651 M * Venomous echo "\$INFO['set_mode']                        =       '1'" | sed -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['set_mode'\] *\)=\( *\).*,\1=\2'0';,g" test.php ?
1131634674 M * mnemoc the 'echo' was to test
1131634704 M * mnemoc find -type f | xargs sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['set_mode'\] *\)=\( *\).*,\1=\2'0';,g"
1131635238 M * Venomous guys
1131635242 M * Venomous i'm very soory
1131635249 M * Venomous probally these are stupid question
1131635262 M * Venomous this is what i have eritten
1131635263 M * Venomous http://pastebin.com/424419
1131635267 M * Venomous doesn't work
1131635353 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc already gave you the command to use.
1131635367 M * daniel_hozac and you'll want to drop the backticks.
1131635499 M * Venomous Sorry
1131635507 M * Venomous but withou specifing the path
1131635517 M * Venomous it will search for the whole server?
1131635533 M * mnemoc add the path between find and -type f
1131635544 M * mnemoc or 'cd' to the place
1131635544 M * daniel_hozac it would search the current directory.
1131635693 M * Venomous doesn't work
1131635696 M * Venomous damn
1131635912 M * Venomous ii'm inside the directory
1131637001 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131637455 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131637851 J * Larsioa ~lars@you.are.the.lamer.la
1131637852 M * Larsioa Hello
1131637855 M * Larsioa i have a problem
1131637913 M * Larsioa I started a virtual server with ip 83.97.97.63 but when i login into the vserver and install the apache server and set BindAdress 83.97.97.63 and restart the apache it says it cant listen on that ip.
1131637955 J * dddd44 dhb55@218.111.178.108
1131638167 M * Larsioa Anybody
1131638168 M * Larsioa please?
1131638245 M * Venomous which program are you using on taht port?
1131638282 M * Venomous have you tried fuser 80/tcp to see wich program is listenin on that port?
1131638287 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE00119572fd49-CM00137186e53a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131638290 M * dos000 howdy
1131638296 M * BWare netstat -nl in both the host and the guest might shed some light on the matter
1131638302 M * Larsioa Venomous: im running an apache server outside of the vserver
1131638309 M * Larsioa but it shouldnt matter because im trying to bind it to another ip.
1131638313 Q * eyck Quit: leaving
1131638361 M * dos000 anyone know stituation where the guest (configured with a publicly visible ip) is able to receive packets but bothing is hapening in the other direction
1131638381 M * BWare another issue might be resolved by checking `hostname` and its resolvability (try adding the guests' hostname to /etc/hosts in the guest with its IP address
1131638390 M * Venomous sorry
1131638398 M * Venomous what you have in your httpd conf?
1131638423 M * Venomous does you have Listen dedicated_vserver_ip:80 in your httpd.conf?
1131638424 M * BWare dos0: routing problems ?
1131638429 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1131638468 M * Venomous another tips
1131638483 M * Venomous go on the host server, and do the same thing
1131638490 M * Venomous bind only on one ip address
1131638494 M * Venomous should work
1131638501 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131638536 M * Larsioa Works now sorry
1131638538 M * Larsioa another thing
1131638540 M * Larsioa vdlimit.
1131638576 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131638605 M * Larsioa i read the DOC about doing fx. chxid -c 50 -R /wherever/vhost0/ but when i do it it gives my Invaild aggrument on all the files that are in the vserver
1131638671 M * Venomous mnemoc
1131638677 M * Venomous this is another string
1131638678 M * mnemoc .
1131638693 M * Venomous $INFO['safe_mode_skins']                        =       '1';   and i should chage it to      $INFO['safe_mode_skins']                        =       '0';
1131638700 M * Venomous basically is the same
1131638720 M * mnemoc so?
1131638753 M * Venomous if i do
1131638759 M * Venomous sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\] *\)=\( *\).*,\1=\2'0';,g" test.php doesn't work
1131638768 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1131638804 M * mnemoc i guess it has tabs
1131638823 M * mnemoc '[ \t]*' instead of ' *' should solve it
1131638837 M * Venomous let me try
1131639022 J * wersh ~wersh@68-115-145-032.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com
1131639073 M * Venomous yes
1131639076 Q * dos000 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131639076 M * Venomous they are tabs
1131639080 M * Venomous but
1131639112 M * Venomous sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\] t\)=\( t\).*,\1=\2'0';,g" test.php doesn't work
1131639145 M * Larsioa Venomous: do you know anything on how to set quota / harddisk limit on virtual servers.
1131639149 M * mnemoc '[ \t]*' not ' t'
1131639204 M * wersh since i don't want to be a fool for a lifetime. how is everyone? =)
1131639562 M * harry pffffffft... vserver rules, but i just have nooooooooooooooooo time :(
1131639603 M * Venomous nothing
1131639607 M * Venomous this doesn't work
1131639610 M * Venomous sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\] [\t]*)=\( [\t]*).*,\1=\2'0';,g" test.php
1131639635 M * Venomous now i have a big heahache _(
1131639646 M * wersh what are you trying to do?
1131639657 M * Venomous replace this string
1131639675 M * wersh replace what with what?
1131639686 M * Venomous $INFO['safe_mode_skins']                        =       '1'; 
1131639688 M * Venomous with
1131639699 M * Venomous $INFO['safe_mode_skins']                        =       '0'; 
1131639711 M * Venomous i have this line on several file
1131639722 M * mnemoc '[ \t]' != ' [\t]'
1131639733 M * wersh you can use sed, or use nano to replace.
1131639750 M * Venomous [ \t] ?
1131639756 M * mnemoc yes
1131639766 M * wersh i always just use nano to replace stuff in files ;)
1131639768 M * mnemoc 'space or tab'
1131639807 M * Venomous i have this line on 400 files
1131639810 M * Venomous sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\] [ \t])=\( [ \t]).*,\1=\2'0';,g" test.php
1131639811 M * Venomous sed: -e expression #1, char 62: Invalid regular expression
1131639817 M * wersh lol ohh..
1131639836 M * Venomous first line worked
1131639855 M * Venomous i used a for cicle
1131639886 M * mnemoc i have to go... bye
1131639898 M * Venomous bye
1131639920 M * mnemoc '[ \t]' != ' [ \t]'
1131640266 Q * iprone Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131640593 J * Breaker_uk ~flopsy@host81-134-146-163.in-addr.btopenworld.com
1131640665 Q * Breaker_uk Quit: 
1131640695 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE00119572fd49-CM00137186e53a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131640879 M * Venomous mnemoc: you sais '[ \t]' is not the same as ' [ \t]', i have already said thanks to you, but i can't understand how thi quiz can help me, it can only feel me frustrated. Anyway i'm using this string sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\] [ \t])=\( [ \t]).*,\1=\2'0';,g" test.php and it doesn't wont work i get sed: -e expression #1, char 62: Invalid regular expression. Anyway thanks for you hel
1131641180 M * dos000 BWare, i kind of got disconnected
1131641207 M * dos000 as i was saying  ... i am wondering if the host is stopping outbound traffic to leave the interface
1131641245 M * BWare dos000:  Could be routing issues
1131641344 Q * tchan Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131641559 M * dos000 i tried to figure samples for static ip's. evry one is using private ips all over
1131641840 M * dos000 on the the host i only open 22 and 69 .. with no extra routing
1131642072 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 !
1131642104 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1131642257 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1131642782 Q * dos000 Quit: Leaving
1131643329 M * Larsioa i read the DOC about doing fx. chxid -c 50 -R /wherever/vhost0/ but when i do it it gives my Invaild aggrument on all the files that are in the vserver
1131644695 N * lilo_ lilo
1131645667 J * iprone ~iprone@65.83.231.99
1131645873 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE00119572fd49-CM00137186e53a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131646588 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975CA8.dip.t-dialin.net
1131646683 M * daniel_hozac Larsioa: what utils? 0.30.209?
1131646710 M * Larsioa daniel_hozac: util-vserver: 0.30.208; Oct 28 2005, 22:01:05
1131646982 M * Larsioa ?
1131647094 M * dos000 daniel_hozac, any idea why a guest configured with a public ip would not be able to get outbound packets out ? i have simple rules on the host and cant see what can stop it when inbound traffic is fine.
1131647316 M * Larsioa how can i install a virtual server with another distro than Debian ?
1131647384 M * dos000 use ubuntu ;-)
1131647407 M * Larsioa can i install Fedora, Mandrivia or maybe others?
1131647466 M * mnemoc Venomous: "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\] [ \t])=\( [ \t]).*,\1=\2'0';,g" <--- you keep adding and _space_ between \( and [
1131647552 M * dos000 but seriously i compiled the source an all seems fine except few routing issues .. which should be fixed soon
1131647620 M * dos000 also speaking as a newbie it is much less complicated than i though, i tried before and gave it up.
1131647646 M * dos000 and the guys here are *very* helpful
1131647737 J * anonymouse ~anonymous@82-69-161-141.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1131647743 M * anonymouse Hello all
1131648002 M * daniel_hozac Larsioa: update to 0.30.209. i'm pretty certain your issue will go away.
1131648052 M * daniel_hozac Larsioa: and yes, you can install any distribution in the guests. it just takes a bit more work to use another distro than your host (or a debootstrap'able distro) ;)
1131648063 M * Venomous guys
1131648071 M * Venomous probally i'm not a genius
1131648083 M * Venomous but after one hours googoling i have solved
1131648088 M * Venomous without quiz......
1131648097 M * Venomous the correct sintax qas
1131648099 M * Venomous ops
1131648101 M * Venomous *was
1131648105 M * Venomous sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\][[:space:]]*\)=\([[:space:]]*\).*,\1=\2'0';,g"
1131648129 M * Venomous [[:space:]]* include any space or tabs
1131648139 M * Venomous so i have solved this problem
1131648141 M * Venomous :P
1131648153 M * mnemoc [[:space:]]* == [ \t]*
1131648160 M * Larsioa daniel_hozac: how to update it in debian
1131648188 M * daniel_hozac Larsioa: did you use the packages when you installed it initially?
1131648200 M * mnemoc but you insist in adding an space before [ \t]
1131648210 M * Larsioa daniel_hozac: i did apt-get install util-vserver
1131648235 M * Venomous mnemoc: no offense you started a quiz with me
1131648256 M * Venomous was really so difficult to paste the code?
1131648279 M * mnemoc Venomous: i did, _too many_ times
1131648297 M * Venomous with me?
1131648336 M * mnemoc yes, with you. no offense but you don't know how to follow instructions
1131648337 M * daniel_hozac Larsioa: well, the Debian packages are known to be broken in so many ways. install util-vserver from source instead.
1131648364 M * daniel_hozac (or use one of the repos with fixed util-vserver packages)
1131648467 M * Venomous mnemoc: ok, no probem...now i have solved..but if you have time see above and you will see you reply. As i said before, i don't think that is so much difficult to paste a luine code like this  sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['safe_mode_skins'\][[:space:]]*\)=\([[:space:]]*\).*,\1=\2'0';,g"....i want repeat myself no problem, next time i will not have problem replace string..
1131648554 M * mnemoc [11:59:00] <mnemoc> find -type f | xargs sed -i -e "s,^\(\$INFO\['set_mode'\] *\)=\( *\).*,\1=\2'0';,g"
1131648558 M * mnemoc [13:07:39] <mnemoc> '[ \t]*' instead of ' *' should solve it
1131648621 M * Venomous [ \t]* <== this raise an error......
1131648733 M * mnemoc no, it doesn't.
1131649039 M * Larsioa daniel_hozac: http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/stable/util-vserver-0.30.tar.bz2
1131649040 M * Larsioa right?
1131649049 M * daniel_hozac Larsioa: no, 0.30.209.
1131649068 M * Larsioa hmm
1131649070 M * Larsioa where is that
1131649072 M * daniel_hozac http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/util-vserver-0.30.209.tar.bz2
1131649117 M * Larsioa i hope you didnt hack the source :D
1131649250 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131649262 J * andrew123 ~andrew123@210.211.130.60
1131649273 M * andrew123 OMG :) hello
1131649285 M * Larsioa checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
1131649287 M * Larsioa hmm i have gcc
1131649288 M * Larsioa ?
1131649293 M * daniel_hozac you need g++
1131649304 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131649315 M * andrew123 i am using fedora 4 cant rpmbuild util-server. says "xalan-j needed" i have "xalan-j2" already. Help!!!
1131649329 M * daniel_hozac --without xalan
1131649383 M * andrew123 wont tht be bad? for future i mean
1131649415 M * daniel_hozac no.
1131649422 M * andrew123 is there option like --with-xalan=/path/to/xalan-j2 ???
1131649427 M * daniel_hozac no.
1131649436 M * Larsioa daniel_hozac: whats the apt-get package search gives soo many restults.
1131649591 M * daniel_hozac Larsioa: i'm not a Debian person, but it's gcc-c++ in Fedora.
1131649643 J * Larsio ~lars@you.are.the.lamer.la
1131649647 M * Larsio daniel_hozac: sorry my pc stoned
1131649649 M * Larsio did you say anything
1131649660 M * daniel_hozac <daniel_hozac> Larsioa: i'm not a Debian person, but it's gcc-c++ in Fedora.
1131649731 M * Larsio aint it g++ ?
1131649850 M * andrew123     Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.80594 (%build)
1131649850 M * andrew123  
1131649853 M * andrew123 :(
1131649854 M * daniel_hozac not in Fedora :)
1131649902 M * daniel_hozac andrew123: it's the lines before that that are interesting. paste them on pastebin.com or something similar.
1131649921 Q * Larsioa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131650138 M * andrew123 http://pastebin.com/424679
1131650178 M * dos000 i am stuck ... anyone can help ?
1131650182 M * daniel_hozac why are you using such ancient tools?
1131650229 M * daniel_hozac dos000: you said you had rules on the host, what kind of rules? could you paste iptables -nvL on pastebin.com?
1131650265 M * andrew123 danied .  u want my iptables?
1131650276 M * andrew123 and whats the ancient tool i am using?
1131650296 M * andrew123 oh got it
1131650300 M * daniel_hozac andrew123: no, that was for dos000. you're using 0.30.205, while the most recent is 0.30.209...
1131650311 M * andrew123 humm. 
1131650327 M * andrew123 http://www.openvps.org/Plone/docs/developer/openvps-howto i  was going by this guide :(
1131650352 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6
1131650356 M * andrew123 is it safe for me to get new files after coming to step of building utils-verser
1131650373 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Vserver+installation+Fedora+Core+4
1131650392 M * andrew123 i got linux.2.6.12.*.vs2 running. alredy. ok i wll check those links now.
1131650430 M * dos000 daniel_hozac, http://pastebin.ca/28267
1131650507 M * andrew123 so daniel. shall i just continue from the point of installing utils-vserver ?? from the guide u gave me?
1131650522 M * dos000 daniel_hozac, thnaks ... i figured what was wrong !
1131650531 M * daniel_hozac andrew123: shouldn't be a problem.
1131650535 M * daniel_hozac dos000: what was it?
1131650539 M * andrew123 =) ok lets see.
1131650580 M * dos000 i had a deep look at pastebin and it just hit me ! ... i was allowing 80 to come from the local net ... darn !
1131650653 M * dos000 but funny thing the packet were coming inside the guest !
1131650687 M * dos000 i did a netcat inside the guest and could see the requests
1131650713 M * dos000 any idea why ?
1131650879 M * daniel_hozac so, umm, what is the problem?
1131650957 M * dos000 if i am dnying the packets via a rule in the host should they not be visible inside the guest ... no ?
1131650979 M * Larsio daniel_hozac:              util-vserver: 0.30.209; Nov 10 2005, 20:27:09
1131650981 M * Larsio lets see now :D
1131651006 M * andrew123 BTW i am doing all this on vmware. later if this suceeds i will repeat this on live server :) i need to see how will hosting go on.
1131651076 M * daniel_hozac dos000: right.
1131651133 M * dos000 ummm .. i imagine there is no such difference between host/guest . but i have no idea why netcat showed me the incoming packets that were supposed to be droped
1131651191 M * Larsio daniel_hozac: same problem
1131651195 M * Larsio /kunder/juldk/sbin/dumpe2fs: Invalid argument
1131651195 M * Larsio /kunder/juldk/sbin/ipfwadm-wrapper: Invalid argument
1131651196 M * Larsio and so on
1131651204 M * Larsio when i do chxid -c 50 -R /kunder/juldk/
1131651329 M * daniel_hozac Larsio: what filesystem? what options did you use when mounting it?
1131651346 M * Larsio mount -o tagxid,rw /home/kunder/virtual/juldk/ /kunder/juldk/
1131651352 M * Larsio sorry
1131651352 M * Larsio mount -o tagxid,rw /home/kunder/virtual/juldk/ /kunder/juldk/
1131651356 M * Larsio with ,bind
1131651367 M * Larsio daniel_hozac: reiserfs
1131651384 M * daniel_hozac tagxid on a bind mount? i doubt that'll work.
1131651406 M * daniel_hozac you'll need it on the real mount point.
1131651410 M * Larsio Hmm
1131651421 M * Larsio bad.
1131651460 M * daniel_hozac and you'll want attrs too, otherwise barriers and iunlink won't work.
1131651488 M * Larsio hmm okay
1131651494 M * Larsio ill fix a real partition tomorrow.
1131651728 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:e903:d344:e2a1:5e59
1131652306 Q * iprone Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131652720 J * dddd44 dhb55@218.111.178.108
1131653000 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131653750 M * andrew123 http://pastebin.com/424733 :( :( :(  :: (:::::::::::::
1131653830 M * andrew123 should i just reboot into vanilla kernel. delete by kernel-vs2 by rpm -e and then get kernel from hokka site?
1131653987 M * daniel_hozac my kernel RPMs pass testme and testfs (except JFS) on 686-smp ;)
1131654050 M * daniel_hozac looks like you disabled legacy networking though.
1131654050 Q * dos000 Quit: Leaving
1131654168 M * andrew123 :( :( 
1131655615 A * daniel_hozac initiates 2.6.14-1.1637_FC4.vs2.0.1.0.rc1.2 build.
1131656089 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1131656317 M * andrew123 all went bad for me. using kernel from hokka site.
1131656321 M * andrew123 daniel is it ur site?
1131656416 M * andrew123 OMG daniel that was ur site :D
1131656432 M * andrew123 it screwd vmware but happy to  talk to you :D
1131656491 M * andrew123 daniel what diff patch u used for building 2.6.14 ?
1131656541 Q * stefani Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131656661 M * andrew123 got it . google rules
1131657636 Q * Larsio Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131658608 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net
1131658678 M * daniel_hozac sorry, was away. how did it screw vmware?
1131658703 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x535f65c3.kjnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk
1131658729 M * JonB hi
1131658746 M * daniel_hozac hello
1131658771 M * JonB does that efficiency mail really hold ?
1131658935 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1131658956 M * daniel_hozac what do you mean?
1131659008 M * JonB chucks mail
1131659115 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-152.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131659117 M * daniel_hozac yeah, but what about it?
1131659151 M * JonB i think it is pretty impressive that vserver is that efficient
1131659284 M * andrew123 hey daniel me back.well how did it screw? umm. got kernel panic saying couldnt file /Volgroup ....... blah blahh blahh
1131659419 M * andrew123 i dont think using fedora 4 is good option. i still see lots of warnings when this kernel is being builded.
1131659440 M * andrew123 should i go for centos 4? i am going to do hosting when i implement this.
1131659454 M * daniel_hozac the warnings are upstream issues.
1131659466 M * daniel_hozac the Fedora kernel has patched away quite a few warnings
1131659535 M * andrew123 humm. ok. well i got vanilla 2.6.14 tar and got 2.6.14 patch so lets see how this goes. my athlon 3000+ 512mb setup is chugging all this nicely.
1131659841 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131660831 M * anonymouse Can someone answer me a question - Why, when a vserver goes over my rss limit, does it start killing processes, and not using virtual memory?
1131661014 M * andrew123 good question if thats wht is happening
1131661059 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1131661122 M * daniel_hozac because it's out of memory.
1131661152 M * daniel_hozac thus the OOM killer does its thing.
1131661774 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1131661931 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131662196 M * anonymouse daniel_hozac, Yes, but why doesn't it use the VM
1131662197 M * anonymouse ?
1131662217 M * anonymouse From what I understand, the OOM starts killing things when it's out of RSS and VM
1131662496 Q * andrew123 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131663593 M * daniel_hozac there is no forced swapping when it reaches the RSS limit.
1131664290 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1131664605 Q * cereal Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131664697 M * anonymouse daniel_hozac, What does that mean exactly?
1131664707 M * anonymouse I have a server. It has lots of swap, unused.
1131664717 M * anonymouse I configure a VPS with 64MB RSS.
1131664734 M * anonymouse When that VPS hits that limit, processes are randomly killed
1131664787 M * daniel_hozac right.
1131664830 M * anonymouse I would expect the VPS to use the servers swap, as it would on a "normal" server
1131664912 M * daniel_hozac i believe something like that is planned, but it's not how it works now.
1131664938 M * anonymouse Aaah, it's in the pipeline?
1131664959 M * anonymouse I think Bertl did mention this before, but I thought I'd misunderstood how it works
1131664960 M * anonymouse :)
1131665175 M * anonymouse Why can't the host server see that a vps wants more memory, and allocate it some swap from it's swap partition?
1131665194 M * anonymouse Is it that the VPS wouldn't know which was "ram" and which was "disk"?
1131665205 M * daniel_hozac i'm sure Bertl would appreciate a patch for it :)
1131665220 M * anonymouse I'm sure I'd love to be able to code like that. :)
1131665243 M * anonymouse I get as far as #include <stdio.h>, and that's about where it ends
1131665477 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)