1131495107 Q * prae Quit: Pwet
1131495578 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1131495586 M * Bertl evening folks!
1131495598 M * Bertl micah: always did :)
1131495792 M * micah Bertl: yes, my mistake
1131495832 M * Bertl micah: eveything fine?
1131495871 M * micah Bertl: Its getting fine, i got very behind in work :(
1131495904 M * micah Bertl: but now I'm finally have a test machine with the right toolchain installed and going to test the 2.4 issues I was talkng about earlier
1131496008 M * Bertl I have some strange issues with debian and x86_64
1131496030 M * PerlOffice Bertl, i know vserver is much older than openvz
1131496043 M * PerlOffice but i thought some of the vserver dev guys were helping sw-soft with openvz
1131496046 M * micah Bertl: you have a x86_64 machine to test with?
1131496069 M * Bertl PerlOffice: well, we keep good contact ... but no help yet ...
1131496084 M * Bertl micah: I have a test machine I can use ...
1131496143 M * matti B.
1131496143 M * matti ;]
1131496182 M * Bertl micah: I guess you can test on that one too, if you like
1131496212 M * Bertl micah: but it is currently in a very unhealthy state, and the problem seems debian related
1131496222 M * micah Bertl: do you know what kernel options need to be selected to get an ethernet device in qemu?
1131496237 M * Bertl yes, as I use QEMU with ethernet
1131496259 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1131496262 M * micah I built a vserver kernel to do some tests and I dont have an ethernet :P
1131496271 M * micah interface
1131496317 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/2.6.13-vs2.0.1.config
1131496331 M * matti micah: That's horrible news :p
1131496343 M * matti micah: :)
1131496449 M * micah looks like I needed ne2k_pci
1131496458 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.5
1131496566 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131496567 N * menomc mnemoc
1131497286 Q * Johnnie Quit: G'bye!
1131497353 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131497926 Q * Sonarman Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131500001 M * PerlOffice Hmm
1131500015 M * PerlOffice I like the construction of Dell servers
1131500020 M * PerlOffice simple, clean and consistent
1131500052 M * Bertl similar to linux-vserver?
1131500057 M * PerlOffice Ha :)
1131501562 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving
1131502415 M * bragon good night here
1131502433 M * Bertl good night there!
1131502485 M * bragon :)
1131503192 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1131503199 M * Bertl welcome stefani!
1131504179 M * stefani hola
1131505015 M * mnemoc hola
1131505525 J * SNy_ 85ff1d93dc@bmx-chemnitz.de
1131505525 Q * SNy Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131505565 J * _cereal koepi@217.20.124.153
1131505565 Q * cereal Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131506012 M * micah Bertl: I finally have results!
1131506029 M * Bertl huh? for what? :)
1131506045 M * micah hehe, let me find a reference to refresh memories
1131506057 M * Bertl please do so :)
1131506259 M * matti :)
1131506290 M * micah Bertl: LOG_2005-10-28.txt: 1130534571
1131506428 M * Bertl ah, for that ... 
1131506437 M * micah i just installed a vanilla 2.4.27 with 1.2.10 patch and util-vserver.030.209
1131506447 M * micah (after much work getting to a place where I COULD install those)
1131506455 M * micah and found that the chroot barrier escape still exists
1131506464 M * Bertl on debian ...
1131506500 M * micah yes, in qemu... but using non-debian componants
1131506508 M * Bertl like?
1131506521 M * micah kernel-source: 2.4.27 (vanilla upstream)
1131506528 M * Bertl I mean, it does _not_ exist with vanilla ...
1131506546 M * micah I'm using 2.4.27 vanilla
1131506558 M * Bertl then you are doing something wrong :)
1131506562 M * micah hmm
1131506573 M * Bertl but it's no problem to go through that again ...
1131506602 M * Bertl I have done it at least 5 times, the chroot escape is working is a very common report ...
1131506620 M * Bertl we can do it together if you like? 
1131506623 M * micah sure
1131506672 M * Bertl okay, let me find a kernel .. for our tests ...
1131506712 M * micah if you like I can send you mine
1131506885 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/bzImage-2.4.30-vs1.2.10
1131506910 M * Bertl non graphical boot, network should be fine
1131506941 M * micah I wish I could figure out how to paste into my qemu :)
1131506969 M * Bertl huh?
1131507026 M * Bertl qemu-0.6.1/i386/qemu-fast -nographic -L qemu-0.6.1/pc-bios -m 256 -snapshot -hda IMGs/TEST_32M.img -hdc IMGs/TEST_256M.img -kernel bzImage-2.4.30-vs1.2.10 -append "rw root=/dev/hda1"
1131507032 M * Bertl (boot the kernel like this)
1131507059 M * Bertl (adjust the pathes and disks if necessary)
1131507101 M * Bertl if you don't have a proper TEST_32M.img, get the public one here:
1131507120 M * micah I've got qemu running fine with an image
1131507121 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/TEST_32M_public.img.bz2
1131507125 M * Bertl okay
1131507147 M * Bertl make sure that you have the 0.30.209 tools available too (inside) and a test guest
1131507156 M * micah yep, got those
1131507166 M * Bertl (which of course uses old style config, as new ones will use namespaces)
1131507243 M * Bertl okay, if you disk image does not configure anything, set up networking now like this:
1131507250 M * Bertl ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
1131507250 M * Bertl ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.2
1131507265 M * micah my network inside my qemu image works with tun/tap
1131507266 M * Bertl in my case, the guest will get 192.168.0.1 or so
1131507297 M * Bertl okay, I now unpack the tools ...
1131507304 M * micah i have 209 already installed
1131507319 M * Bertl okay, I mount the second disk on /vservers/
1131507324 M * micah one second, I dont normally boot qemu this way
1131507339 M * micah so I need two disk images
1131507360 M * Bertl well, you should have a separate partition for the guests
1131507373 M * Bertl but it is not strictly required, I'd say ...
1131507417 M * Bertl lets do the 'typical' setup first, then change to variations
1131507440 M * micah if I boot that way I get fsck errors
1131507451 M * micah let me get your test images
1131507464 M * Bertl change the rw to ro
1131507477 M * Bertl (if you image does rootfs checks :)
1131507480 M * micah the ro?
1131507497 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1131507503 M * micah you said -append "rw root=/dev/hda1"
1131507511 M * micah do you maybe mean the -snapshot?
1131507514 M * Bertl yep, change the 'rw' part to 'ro'
1131507535 M * Bertl (if your disk image does fsck stuff, you probably need that :)
1131507574 M * Bertl trust me, I know what you're doing :)
1131507584 M * micah hmm, it doesn't like the superblock
1131507603 M * Bertl ah, no, I don't know :)
1131507611 M * micah when I exit, it does "Restarting the system" and then I cannot exit the process, I must kill it
1131507629 M * Bertl what fs is the disk?
1131507641 M * Bertl and is it a disk or just a partition?
1131507657 M * micah its a disk image file
1131507665 M * micah that I installed debian into
1131507667 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:8092:eded:fa37:d64f
1131507690 M * Bertl okay, let's get the public image, and take your disk as second one
1131507694 M * Bertl welcome FireEgl!
1131507826 M * micah ok, do you want me to use the TEST_32M_public.img as hda?
1131507833 M * Bertl yep
1131507859 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2
1131507870 M * Bertl get this one too, and place it into one of your images
1131507880 M * Bertl (either the public or the second one)
1131507889 M * micah yes, I've already gotten and installed util-vserver-0.30.209 in my image
1131507901 M * Bertl but not in the public one :)
1131507953 M * micah I'm not sure how to access the second one
1131507968 M * micah this appears to be devfs
1131507982 M * Bertl yes, so it is simply there
1131507990 M * Bertl mount /dev/discs/disc1/part1 /vservers/
1131508003 M * Bertl (for example what I do here)
1131508005 M * micah right
1131508011 M * micah I was confused by devfs
1131508030 M * micah ok, I should compile and install util-vserver again?
1131508053 M * Bertl nope, just unpack the tar in the / path of the public, once started
1131508068 M * micah ah
1131508073 M * Bertl i.e. copy the tar over to the public image or your guest image 
1131508079 M * Bertl then do:
1131508083 M * Bertl tar xjf /tmp/util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2
1131508086 M * micah hmm, wait
1131508091 M * Bertl (right after the qemu boot)
1131508094 M * micah I need to have working network access to do this
1131508101 M * micah and the filesystem to be writable
1131508111 M * Bertl why?
1131508130 M * Bertl I mean the image is mounted 'rw' if you use my line
1131508132 M * micah ok got network
1131508141 M * Bertl and network access is not required to unpack it :)
1131508149 M * micah well it is required to get it in there :)
1131508154 M * Bertl nope
1131508163 M * Bertl just use the command line above
1131508168 M * Bertl only adjust the pathes
1131508183 M * Bertl do not leave out options, change arguments or whatever :)
1131508220 M * Bertl (you might use qemu instead of qemu-fast though)
1131508250 M * micah ok, I am doing:
1131508278 M * micah mm I dont have the pc-bios either
1131508290 M * Bertl it's in you qemu dir
1131508300 A * micah goes to loko
1131508302 M * micah look
1131508495 M * micah i've got something called bios.bin, vgabios.bin, and vgabios-cirrus.bin
1131508516 M * Bertl well, and it's in a dir no?
1131508518 M * micah is this piece necessary? qmeu seems to work fine
1131508533 M * Bertl how is the dir called?
1131508534 M * micah I did not compile my own qemu
1131508539 M * micah I'm using a package
1131508546 M * Bertl aha! a debian one?
1131508562 M * micah yes, 0.7.2
1131508578 M * Bertl okay, so leave out the -L qemu-0.6.1/pc-bios part for a test
1131508626 M * micah ok, doing:
1131508665 M * micah qemu -nographic -m 256 -snapshot -hda TEST_32M.img -hdb my.img -kernel bzImage-2.4.30-vs1.2.10 -append "rw root=/dev/hda1"
1131508682 M * Bertl okay
1131508702 M * micah actually TEST_32M_public.img :)
1131508708 M * Bertl good :)
1131508733 M * micah ok, now I am booted
1131508746 M * Bertl in the terminal ... or?
1131508764 M * micah what other options do I have? :)
1131508782 M * Bertl well, could be that debian had disabled -nographic
1131508799 M * Bertl (maybe Ola maintains qemu too *G*)
1131508816 M * micah heh, no -nographic worked
1131508834 M * Bertl okay, so you need no network to unpack something, right?
1131508863 M * micah well i need to wget the http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2 before I can unpack it
1131508872 M * micah but I have network now
1131508884 M * Bertl read up what I wrote above :)
1131508987 M * micah ok, I have util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2 untar'd now
1131509014 M * micah well wait
1131509023 M * micah you said to do: tar xjf /tmp/util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2
1131509033 M * micah so I untarr'd in /tmp, right?
1131509048 M * micah but you also said:
1131509049 M * micah 22:47 < Bertl> nope, just unpack the tar in the / path of the public, once started
1131509050 M * Bertl no, after bootup, you are in /
1131509058 M * micah ok, so I should untar in /
1131509084 M * Bertl yep, I didn't say to change the dir, did I?
1131509104 M * micah ok, re-untarrd
1131509116 M * Bertl now it's everywhere :)
1131509130 M * micah an extra copy in /tmp just in case
1131509131 M * Bertl okay, again, the steps here were:
1131509162 M * Bertl # ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
1131509162 M * matti Bertl: Is is good idea to stor boolean data in some variable that will be managed by bit fileds operations?
1131509162 M * Bertl # ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.2
1131509162 M * Bertl # tar xjf /tmp/util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2 
1131509162 M * Bertl # mount /dev/discs/disc1/part1 /vservers/
1131509162 M * Bertl # setattr --barrier /vservers/XXXX/..
1131509164 M * Bertl # vserver XXXX start
1131509191 M * Bertl matti: depends, usually no 
1131509213 M * matti Bertl: Due to little/big endian dependencies?
1131509233 M * Bertl ... ,performance and a bunch of other possible issues
1131509242 M * matti Seems so.
1131509249 M * micah Bertl: ok so if I mount /dev/discs/disc1/part1 /vservers/ i'm going to have my image mounted there
1131509257 M * Bertl unless you are writing code for a 16k pic, it's not worth the trouble
1131509265 M * matti Bertl: :)
1131509282 M * Bertl micah: yes, and it should contain the guest 'XXXX'
1131509310 M * micah not if I did -hdb my.img
1131509325 M * Bertl micah: you can use 'mv' to fix that :)
1131509330 M * micah wouldn't I need TEST_256M.img to have that?
1131509356 M * Bertl yep, but that _is_ your image, no?
1131509382 M * micah are you using 'XXXX' to stand in for the name of my vserver?
1131509386 M * Bertl I assume that you ahve 'the guest' somewhere on 'your disk' image
1131509410 M * Bertl I also assume that you have the config for 'the guest' somewhere on your image
1131509429 M * micah I was not sure if you were referring to an actual guest called XXXX
1131509432 M * Bertl so, if both assumptions hold, and you did bootup properly
1131509444 M * Bertl then just do:
1131509463 M * Bertl mv /vservers/path/to/your/config /etc/vservers/XXXX.conf
1131509477 M * Bertl mv /vservers/path/to/your/guest /vservers/XXXX
1131509552 M * micah it looks like my config is new style
1131509574 M * Bertl fine, then we need not to test .. because namespaces will do the job anyway
1131509702 M * micah i'm sorry, I am not following
1131509716 M * micah we do not need to test now?
1131509724 M * Bertl you claim that you succed in leaving the chroot on a newstyle guest?
1131509734 M * Bertl one which is using namespaces?
1131509760 M * Bertl hmm, not sure 2.4 has private namespaces at all ...
1131509776 M * Bertl okay, let's continue with your newstyle config ...
1131509782 M * micah I used vserver build to create a guest, which created a newstyle config, which I gather is not compatible with the 1.2
1131509803 M * Bertl okay, so be it, move over the tree, fix the pathes
1131509812 M * micah ok
1131509862 M * Bertl or just create a new skeleton config like this:
1131509900 M * Bertl vserver WWWW build -m skeleton --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.0.2/24 --context 100
1131509920 M * Bertl then move the guest to /vservers/WWWW
1131510011 M * micah ok
1131510046 M * micah if I try to start my other newstyle guest I get this error:
1131510046 M * micah /usr/sbin/vserver: /usr/bin/mkfifo: No such file or directory
1131510067 M * micah but I created a skeleton WWWW to work with instead
1131510508 M * Bertl okay, switched to a script here, getting too easy to mess that up ...
1131510539 M * micah ok
1131510598 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/micah_01.sh
1131510666 M * Bertl soory, -a instead of -v
1131510761 M * micah "-a instead of -v"?
1131510775 M * Bertl yep, the busybox cp doesn't know -v
1131510786 M * Bertl I already updated the script :)
1131510788 M * micah ah
1131510795 M * micah I was looking at the cp -a wondering...
1131510840 M * Bertl after executing that script, the guest is started
1131510860 M * Bertl and I ssh into it, then I execute one/all of the the three chroot exploit codes ...
1131510959 M * micah I still have this problem: 
1131510960 M * micah /usr/sbin/vserver: /usr/bin/mkfifo: No such file or directory
1131510968 M * micah when the script does the vserver WWWW start
1131510985 M * micah as that image doesn't seem to have mkfifo in it
1131511011 M * Bertl well, copy it there or whatever is necessary to make your guest start
1131511024 M * Bertl if sshd already starts, it's fine
1131511105 M * micah ok... but nothing starts
1131511125 M * micah copied /usr/bin/mkfifo from my debian hdb but now vserver WWWW start gives:
1131511125 M * micah lockfile: open(<lockfile>): No such file or directory
1131511133 M * micah bash-2.05# vserver WWWW start
1131511133 M * micah lockfile: open(<lockfile>): No such file or directory
1131511133 M * micah BusyBox v1.00-pre8 (2004.03.17-09:47+0000) multi-call binary
1131511133 M * micah Usage: find [PATH...] [EXPRESSION]
1131511137 M * Bertl well, maybe different init style for debian?
1131511166 M * Bertl ahem, you can't simply copy the mkfifo from the 32M image an expect it to work :)
1131511175 M * micah no that is not what I did
1131511177 M * Bertl *and
1131511190 M * micah there is *no* mkfifo in the 32M image
1131511203 M * Bertl good! :)
1131511227 M * Bertl what init style has your old config?
1131511234 M * Bertl probably plain not sysv, yes?
1131511251 M * micah well, when I issue a vserver WWWW build -m skeleton I am using your OS
1131511271 M * Bertl well, you create an _empty_ guest with sysv init
1131511296 M * Bertl try to specify the plain init style on that line (if your debian guest needs it)
1131511429 M * Bertl I think I can switch to plain init style too ...
1131511539 M * micah hmm is this right:
1131511546 M * micah vserver WWWW build -m skeleton --initstyle plain --netdev eth0...
1131511578 M * Bertl I uploaded a micah_02.sh
1131511642 M * micah vserver WWWW build -m skeleton $@ ?
1131511666 M * Bertl /tmp/micah_02.sh --initstyle plain
1131511749 M * micah same errors
1131511750 M * micah  /usr/sbin/vserver: /usr/bin/mkfifo: No such file or directory
1131511752 M * micah lockfile: open(<syncpipe>): No such file or directory
1131511778 M * Bertl well, guess that is guest related, works here with my guest
1131511793 M * micah i can make a new guest if you prefer
1131511819 M * Bertl install the mkfifo (no idea what your guest needs it for)
1131511835 M * micah where do I install it from?
1131511858 M * Bertl where did you install the guest from=
1131511858 M * micah this seems to be coming before the guest even starts...
1131511877 M * Bertl no, definitely not .. it's _inside_ the guest
1131511892 M * micah  /vservers/WWWW/usr/bin/mkfifo exists
1131511929 M * Bertl *sigh* show me your script
1131512006 M * micah I'm using micah_02.sh
1131512017 M * micah the only thing I am doing that is not in that script 
1131512058 M * Bertl yes?
1131512059 M * micah is when I am re-doing things, so I need to remove the /etc/vservers/WWWW directory and mv /vservers/WWWW back to /vservers/XXXX
1131512077 M * Bertl you do not _redo_ anything 
1131512083 M * Bertl you start the qemu anew
1131512093 M * Bertl (otherwise it is not reproduceable)
1131512120 M * Bertl and, to simplify your setup, mount 'your' second image and move the guest to XXXX
1131512145 M * micah I did that
1131512147 M * Bertl (and either copy the 0.30.209_bin tar into the first one or adjust the script
1131512160 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1131512172 M * micah ok, how do I quit qemu in non-graphical mode?
1131512179 M * Bertl CTRL-A x
1131512264 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-223.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131512283 M * micah I did change the network IPs in the script
1131512303 M * Bertl so be it, as long as they do not conflict with the 192.168.0.2/24
1131512342 M * micah well 192.168.0.2 is in use on my network, so I changed that to 102
1131512363 M * Bertl okay, whatever
1131513008 M * micah same result :(
1131513047 M * Bertl the script is now identical?
1131513055 M * Bertl (except for the IPs)
1131513071 M * micah oh I did not invoke with --initstyle plain
1131513074 M * micah let me start over
1131513190 M * micah here is what I do
1131513197 M * micah qemu -nographic -m 256 -snapshot -hda TEST_32M_public.img -hdb woody.img -kernel bzImage-2.4.30-vs1.2.10 -append "rw root=/dev/hda1"
1131513216 M * micah mount /dev/discs/disc1/part1 /vservers/
1131513228 M * micah cp /vservers/root/util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2 /tmp
1131513238 M * micah cp /vservers/root/micah_02.sh /tmp
1131513245 M * Bertl before you do the actual guest startup, wait a second
1131513249 M * micah ok
1131513316 M * Bertl just to make sure, add:
1131513321 M * Bertl rm -f /bin/mkfifo
1131513325 M * Bertl cp -a /bin/mknod /bin/mkfifo
1131513368 M * Bertl maybe the tools conclude that your guest is missing something
1131513378 M * Bertl and try to create that (for whatever reason)
1131513401 M * micah add those two lines to the script?
1131513417 M * Bertl yep, before you do the 'vserver WWWW start'
1131513428 M * Bertl or just before you invoke the script :)
1131513471 M * micah cp -a /bin/mknod /bin/mkfifo is correct?
1131513481 M * micah or should it be cp -a /bin/mknod /bin/mkfifo /vservers/WWWW
1131513510 M * Bertl the two line I gave you are correct :)
1131513524 M * micah ok
1131513558 M * Bertl (they will ensure a working mkfifo on the public image)
1131513577 M * micah ok, now I get:
1131513577 M * micah /tmp/micah_02.sh: 12: setattr: not found
1131513577 M * micah cp: invalid option -- x
1131513607 M * micah which is odd, because the script doesn't have a cp -x in it
1131513612 M * Bertl who did specify x to cp, why is setattr not found?
1131513696 M * Bertl okay, give me a few minutes to provide a _new_ public image
1131513726 M * micah I restarted from scratch to make sure I didn't screw something up
1131513736 M * micah this is exactly what I did and the result:
1131513754 M * micah # mount /dev/discs/disc1/part1 /vservers/
1131513758 M * micah # cp /vservers/root/util-vserver-0.30.209_bin.tar.bz2 /tmp
1131513761 M * micah # cp /vservers/root/micah_02.sh /tmp
1131513765 M * micah # rm -f /bin/mkfifo
1131513771 M * micah # cp -a /bin/mknod /bin/mkfifo
1131513775 M * micah # chmod +x /tmp/micah_02.sh
1131513781 M * micah # /tmp/micah_02.sh --initstyle plain
1131513784 M * micah mount: /dev/discs/disc1/part1 already mounted or /vservers/ busy
1131513789 M * micah  /usr/sbin/vserver: /usr/bin/mkfifo: No such file or directory
1131513792 M * micah lockfile: open(<syncpipe>): No such file or directory
1131513792 M * micah BusyBox v1.00-pre8 (2004.03.17-09:47+0000) multi-call binary
1131513801 M * micah and then the rest of the busybox stuff
1131513807 M * micah Failed to start vserver 'WWWW'
1131514140 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-135.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131514410 Q * bragon Remote host closed the connection
1131514418 J * bragon ~bragon@god.geeknode.org
1131514428 J * matti_ matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1131514491 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131514538 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1131514588 Q * matti Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131514589 N * matti_ matti
1131514657 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131515044 M * Bertl micah: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/TEST_32M_public2.img.bz2
1131515058 M * Bertl includes everything, even the IP changes,
1131515072 M * Bertl just make sure that your second image has a guest at /XXXX
1131515092 M * Bertl (a working guest that is :)
1131515099 M * micah I will verify that now
1131515143 M * micah yes, the guest is at /XXXX
1131515195 M * micah ok, starting the same way as before?
1131515212 M * Bertl qemu invocation is the same, then just do
1131515245 M * Bertl /tmp/micah_02.sh
1131515312 M * micah # /tmp/micah_02.sh 
1131515312 M * micah lockfile: open(<lockfile>): No such file or directory
1131515312 M * micah lockfile: open(<lockfile>): No such file or directory
1131515316 M * micah and then the guest starts!
1131515319 M * Bertl good!
1131515325 M * Bertl the lockfile stuff is normal
1131515329 M * micah ok
1131515332 M * Bertl well, it's a busybox bug
1131515337 M * Bertl (one of the many :)
1131515428 M * micah ok, now if I enter the guest and attempt the rootescape it does not seem to succeed
1131515443 M * Bertl no, it just doesn't succed :)
1131515577 M * micah so, i should try booting this way with my kernel
1131515592 M * Bertl a good idea ...
1131515735 M * micah if I do that qemu doesn't seem to boot and appears to freeze... hmm
1131515751 M * Bertl no serial console, try with the graphical one
1131515756 M * micah ok
1131515769 M * micah yeah that was the issue
1131516344 M * micah well, my kernel doesn't have devfs
1131516413 M * micah and the image doesn't have a device node for /dev/hdb1
1131516415 M * Bertl mkdir -p /dev/discs/disc1;  cp -va /dev/hda1 /dev/discs/disc1/part1
1131516424 M * Bertl ah, hdb1, yep
1131516454 M * Bertl okay, adjust that to:
1131516473 M * Bertl mkdir -p /dev/discs/disc1 
1131516492 M * Bertl mknod /dev/discs/disc1/part1 b 22 1
1131516517 M * Bertl (or get serial console and devfs compiled in :)
1131516546 M * micah hmm that doesn't mount it
1131516570 M * micah it gives:
1131516576 M * micah mount: you must specify the filesystem type
1131516600 M * micah isn't hdc 22 1?
1131516621 M * micah i can restart and just pass -hdc instead of -hd
1131516623 M * Bertl yep? so?
1131516624 M * micah -hdb
1131516639 M * Bertl well, I _always_ had hdc in my line ... *sigh*
1131516662 M * micah yes you did
1131516663 M * Bertl micah: you should really start _reading_ the stuff I write ...
1131516676 M * Bertl this would save us both a _lot_ of time ...
1131516712 M * micah yes, well i am using -hdc myself, I was just thinking it was hdb
1131516744 M * Bertl see that's the advantage of devfs over static dev entries
1131516760 M * Bertl you do not have to worry about such stuff
1131516795 M * Bertl (similar goes for udev, if configured properly)
1131516858 M * micah and the root escape does not work there either
1131516888 M * Bertl good
1131517099 M * stefani hrm bind9-riseup not starting up for me. 
1131517120 M * PerlOffice i believe bind needs custom config for vserver
1131517123 M * PerlOffice but i dunno much
1131517126 M * PerlOffice it's covered in the faq
1131517127 M * Bertl stefani: riseup?
1131517146 M * Bertl PerlOffice: yes, it usually requires to be compiled with linux-caps disabled
1131517148 M * stefani Bertl:  micah packaged up debs with no-caps  bind9 
1131517160 M * Bertl PerlOffice: (at least to make it work in a secure way)
1131517171 M * PerlOffice that's the chroot way?
1131517193 M * micah stefani: what does your log say?
1131517212 M * stefani micah: named: -u not supported on Linux kernels older than 2.3.99-pre3 or 2.2.18 when using threads
1131517224 M * micah stefani: you need to remove that line from /etc/defaults/bind9
1131517227 M * stefani ok
1131517237 M * micah its a bug against bind9 that I filed ages ago
1131517255 M * stefani tak.
1131517266 M * stefani prepp'ing bennu
1131517272 M * Bertl micah: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/micah_03.sh
1131517289 M * Bertl (variation on the theme (additional dir) which works quite fine too)
1131517416 M * micah going to try a debian kernel +vserver this way
1131517456 N * _cereal cereal
1131517466 M * micah hmm, that will be harder because there are modules
1131517506 M * micah Bertl: can I boot qemu kernels that have modules that way? or should I rebuild the kernel to have no modules
1131517553 M * Bertl yes, you can, you just have to copy the modules to the image
1131517564 M * Bertl or put them into a ram disk
1131517599 M * micah ok, I will have to do that later, I need to sleep, very late here
1131517614 M * Bertl well, it's 7:30 here?!
1131517630 M * micah so what this has showed us is that the vanilla 2.4.27 kernel + vs1.2.10 is not vulnerable to the chroot escape
1131517648 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/micah_04.sh
1131517663 M * Bertl here is the last one, with the guest at the mount point
1131517673 M * Bertl and what a surprise, it is secure too :)
1131517696 M * micah it will be very interesting to see if the debian kernel is vulnerable
1131517712 M * Bertl nope, this showed us that the vanilla 2.4.30-vs2.1.0 is not vulnerable
1131517724 M * Bertl *vs1.2.10
1131517730 M * micah ah, but I tested also with my 2.4.27
1131517732 M * Bertl it's really late here ...
1131517762 M * Bertl okay, so you will test with debian, and report back, k?
1131517778 M * micah yep, it will not be tomorrow as I am gone, but the next day
1131517788 M * Bertl anyway, thanks for your work on linux-vserver!
1131517825 M * micah thanks for all your help Bertl, sorry if my tired brain caused some wasted time
1131517831 M * micah goodnight
1131517838 M * Bertl don't worry too much, night!
1131517848 M * micah goodnight stefani 
1131517857 M * stefani night.
1131517857 M * Bertl okay folks, off to bed now too ... have a nice whatever ...
1131517866 M * stefani whatever.
1131517867 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1131519008 Q * jebba Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131519302 Q * stefani Quit: going away now...
1131519541 J * jebba ~jebba@c-24-9-120-137.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1131522012 J * anonymousc ~anonymous@staff.internode.com.au
1131523168 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131524052 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131524598 Q * jebba Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131525037 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1131525120 J * jebba ~jebba@ip-216-17-154-58.rev.frii.com
1131525335 J * Guest145 ~Miranda@83.215.237.5
1131525699 Q * Aiken_ Remote host closed the connection
1131527101 J * Krao ~vaq@83.97.96.195
1131527111 M * Krao Is it possibel to do Traffic limit on a vserver?
1131527112 M * Krao and if how?
1131527388 M * eyck   of course,
1131527403 M * eyck tc/htb3 for example
1131527437 M * Krao Do you know a page who has a guide on how to do it on a vserver?
1131527852 M * ComplexHo Krao:  traffic limiting happens outside of vserver - start here: http://www.lartc.org/
1131528083 M * Krao ComplexHo: iknow it stats outside of the vserver. But is there an easy way to do it eg with iptables.
1131528850 J * vip-vs ~vince@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com
1131528926 N * SNy_ SNy
1131529171 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com
1131529456 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-197.lhi.is
1131529463 M * vip-vs Hi folks
1131529475 M * vip-vs Is it 'safe' to use this patch: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc6.diff ???
1131529497 M * vip-vs Or should I avoid it?
1131529500 M * harry i tried it, server won't boot
1131529506 M * harry but afaik, it's perfectly sae
1131529508 M * harry safe
1131529551 M * vip-vs Hmmzz .. ok..  for some reason I can't get SMP to work on 2.6.12 ... so I guess I should try 2.6.14 ... or not?
1131529568 M * harry why can't you get smp to work?
1131529570 M * harry what's the problem?
1131529594 M * AndrewLee BIOS's APIC routing problem?
1131529654 M * vip-vs don't know ..all kernel settings are OK, but in /proc/cpuinfo I only see one cpu (Intel P4 HT)
1131529708 M * harry HT, that's tmp, not really smp
1131529714 M * harry so watch out for that in kernel config
1131529800 M * vip-vs hmmzz .ok, ... what are the right kernel setting then?
1131529818 M * vip-vs (I thought I needed a SMP kernel to use HT)
1131529819 M * harry i'll check
1131529823 M * harry true
1131529835 M * harry but threaded multiprocessing is an option below that :)
1131529851 M * vip-vs Hmmzz .. I'll check that right away
1131529901 M * vip-vs CONFIG_SMP=y, CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8, CONFIG_SCHED_SMT=y ...that's all I can find
1131530136 M * daniel_hozac vip-vs: use the 2.0.1-rc1 patch for production purposes.
1131530199 M * vip-vs daniel_hozac: thnx will do that (if 2.6.12 kernel seems be my HT/SMP problem)
1131530259 M * vip-vs harry: this is more clear:  [*] Symmetric multi-processing support, (8)   Maximum number of CPUs (2-255), [*]   SMT (Hyperthreading) scheduler support
1131530283 M * vip-vs harry: So SMT is build within the kernel :)
1131530322 M * harry that hyperthreading stuff is what you need, yes
1131530340 M * harry (sry, just had a phonecall... everything back ok here now
1131530406 M * vip-vs harry: no prob. :)  Ok...that hyperthreading stuff / SMT is build in the kernel ... .. ok.. maybe this is not related te vserver anymore and should I look further
1131530457 M * harry bios setting?
1131530471 M * vip-vs nope ..HT is enabled
1131530502 M * harry processor       : 1
1131530502 M * harry vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
1131530502 M * harry cpu family      : 15
1131530502 M * harry model           : 2
1131530502 M * harry model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
1131530509 M * harry Linux monitor 2.6.11.8 #2 SMP Tue May 3 18:15:28 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
1131530517 M * harry so it has to work on a 2.6.12 too
1131530621 Q * NikDaPhreak Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131530706 M * harry what do the bootlogs say?
1131530721 M * vip-vs harry: mom plz ..will past themin pastbin
1131530722 M * harry did you ever managed to get the threaded multiprocessing to work?
1131530784 M * eyck what is 'threaded multiprocessing' ? 
1131530799 M * harry eyck: hyperthreading
1131530836 M * harry it's not multiprocessing, it's actually more threads that make a virtual second cpu when the cpu itself is idle
1131530864 M * vip-vs http://pastebin.com/422803
1131530909 M * vip-vs harry: actually, no ... but I'vs seen default kernels run perfectly on the same kind of hardware
1131530924 M * vip-vs even windows XP shows 2 cpu's
1131530950 M * eyck 'SMT scheduler support' is just a way of not treating the virtual cpu like a real one,
1131530953 M * harry WARNING: 1 siblings found for CPU0, should be 2
1131530976 M * eyck harry: why call it with such a strange and meaningfull way?
1131531013 M * vip-vs harry: yep ..saw that warning ..googled on it.... but not to my satisfaction
1131531039 M * harry eyck: ahm... it's still 1 cpu, just threads that can run "next to eachother"
1131531048 M * harry so... threaded multiprocessing :)
1131531060 M * harry but hyperthreading sounds so much cooler probably :)
1131531073 M * vip-vs eyck: normally /proc/cpuinfo should also show 2 cpu's with HT
1131531081 M * harry true
1131531149 M * vip-vs maybe I shoud mention this:  when running de 2.6.8 SMP default kernel (Debian Sarge)  after install.. the system is very slow and can't get through the proces detecting PCI and USB and so on
1131531152 M * eyck I'm used to seeing 4;)
1131531164 M * vip-vs eyck: spoiled :)
1131531189 M * harry eyck: i can do better ;)
1131531199 M * harry :p
1131531203 M * eyck harry: good for you
1131531204 M * vip-vs lol
1131531210 M * eyck spoilt
1131531237 M * harry vip-vs: do you have some realtime things turned on in your kernel?
1131531248 M * harry eyck: sysadmin of a hpc cluster :)
1131531286 M * vip-vs harry: realtime stuff?? hmmzz let's check
1131531385 M * harry mkay... i'll see for a patch
1131531401 M * harry --- linux/arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c.orig	
1131531401 M * harry +++ linux/arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c	
1131531401 M * harry @@ -1110,8 +1110,10 @@ static void __init smp_boot_cpus(unsigne
1131531401 M * harry  			cpu_set(cpu, cpu_sibling_map[cpu]);
1131531401 M * harry  		}
1131531403 M * harry  
1131531405 M * harry -		if (siblings != smp_num_siblings)
1131531408 M * harry +		if (siblings != smp_num_siblings) {
1131531410 M * harry  			printk(KERN_WARNING "WARNING: %d siblings found for CPU%d, should be %d\n", siblings, cpu, smp_num_siblings);
1131531413 M * harry +			smp_num_siblings = siblings;
1131531416 M * harry +		}
1131531419 M * harry  	}
1131531421 M * vip-vs isn't that an old patch?
1131531421 M * harry  
1131531424 M * harry  	if (nmi_watchdog == NMI_LOCAL_APIC)
1131531427 M * harry (it's stolen from lkml)
1131531428 M * harry yes
1131531430 M * harry :)
1131531449 M * vip-vs hmmzz I thought it already was implimended
1131531458 M * harry tried that?
1131531462 M * vip-vs not yet
1131531467 M * harry let's see the code... 
1131531500 M * vip-vs mom
1131531540 M * vip-vs btw... don't know where this realtime stuff is located :) .. but I will first check out smpboot.c
1131531612 M * harry it's in the code...
1131531618 M * harry line 1087
1131531620 M * harry 1078
1131531673 M * vip-vs hmzz ..kernel is already patched
1131531728 M * harry q is... why is it wrong...
1131531749 M * vip-vs right ... that.. I don't know :)
1131531835 M * harry hehe
1131531839 A * harry looking further...
1131531945 M * vip-vs I'm no kernel hacker .. so normally I would hope a new version should solve the problem ... but I prefer a older stable since it must run on production
1131531990 M * harry well... 2.6.14 is stable too :)
1131532000 M * harry i don't think it's less stable than 2.6.12 or so
1131532028 M * harry since it's hyperthreading, you can't really use 2.4 kernels...
1131532041 M * harry the fastest thing you can do is probably test it on 2.6.14
1131532123 M * vip-vs omg!  propably found it
1131532133 M * harry ....
1131532137 M * vip-vs http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Aug/2195.html  ...I didn't compile ACPI
1131532177 M * harry that's not it, probably (at least, i hope)
1131532185 M * harry what's acpi got to do with smt
1131532226 M * vip-vs don't know but:  a reply to that url:  "Looks like ACPI
1131532227 M * vip-vs is now dependent on CONFIG_PM, while it was not before. "
1131532242 M * vip-vs I'm sure going to try that :)
1131532247 M * harry true:)
1131532254 M * harry would be extremely weird if that were the problem
1131532282 Q * ComplexHo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131532282 M * vip-vs true true .. I will come back on that today :)
1131532317 M * harry CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
1131532324 M * harry that has to be on
1131532332 M * vip-vs well ..not only that I think
1131532333 M * harry but acpi is globally disabled in my config
1131532343 M * vip-vs [*]   Power Management Timer Support
1131532346 M * harry monitor:/usr/local/nagios/etc# grep ACPI /boot/config-2.6.11.8-grsec
1131532346 M * harry # Power management options (ACPI, APM)
1131532346 M * harry # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
1131532346 M * harry # CONFIG_ACPI is not set
1131532346 M * harry CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
1131532366 M * harry and this is a tmp machine
1131532387 M * harry damn, how do you call this... is tmp good for everyone? or should i say smt?
1131532404 M * vip-vs the kernel docs refer to smt
1131532414 M * vip-vs Intel does too refer to smt
1131532463 M * harry mkay
1131532465 M * harry smt it is
1131532472 M * vip-vs CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
1131532483 M * harry that's all powermanagement
1131532489 M * harry you don't want thaton a server imho ;)
1131532491 M * vip-vs anyway :) going to compile now
1131532496 M * harry gl
1131532503 M * harry let me know if that was the problem
1131532513 M * harry CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
1131532520 M * harry that's the only acpi stuff i have enabled
1131532523 M * vip-vs true ..but:  "Looks like ACPI is now dependent on CONFIG_PM, while it was not before. "
1131532527 M * harry (which is enabled by default)
1131532550 M * harry vip-vs: acpi is MADE for powermanagement (PM), not for smp/smt
1131532556 M * vip-vs and you are running on HT cpu's?
1131532560 M * harry yups
1131532570 M * vip-vs ok.. I'll try that then :)
1131532631 M * harry i'll try to find my last installed machine
1131532742 M * harry damn... that machine is down, because of a shortage of machines :(
1131532758 M * vip-vs hehe ... linux-vserver ?? ;)
1131532777 M * harry no
1131532784 M * harry i use 1 disk to install all the servers
1131532787 M * vip-vs overhere: rebooting 
1131532802 M * harry so it's a special installation disk
1131532814 M * harry which needs a server to keep the old one active (resync everytime)
1131532831 M * harry i'm setting up a vserver machine too now... (dual xeon 3GHz)
1131532869 M * vip-vs we're using vservers over here for different JBoss installs ... and I'm very pleased with it :)
1131532871 M * harry exciting... ):
1131532883 M * harry i never set up a vserver thing...
1131532893 M * harry did look at the code etc... but still trying my first install
1131532901 M * vip-vs Currently running 8 vservers on an P4 2.8Ghz with 1Gb .. and many to come
1131532905 M * harry (bootloader fucked up, so i have to go to the server myself)
1131532952 M * vip-vs :( WARNING: 1 siblings found for CPU0, should be 2 :(
1131532978 M * harry thought so... looks kinda weird that a powermanagement feature should have an effect on multiprocessing stuff
1131533006 M * vip-vs true ... but I'm no kernel hacker .. so it could have worked :)
1131533020 A * harry doesnt hack much in the kernel either...
1131533024 M * harry just some small stuff
1131533270 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1131533290 M * Krao How can i see how much a vserver uses in traffic
1131533350 M * vip-vs Krao: I guess you mean network traffic?
1131533389 M * vip-vs I think you can monitor the alias interface with mrtg or something
1131533439 M * vip-vs harry: I will try to find a solution later ... I really don't know where to search for at this point
1131533454 M * harry bwerk! all servers here still run 2.4 kernels
1131533471 M * vip-vs haha :) 
1131533480 M * harry trying to find a 2.6 kernel with low uptime...
1131533487 M * harry so it still contains bootinfo
1131533495 M * eyck harry: same here, 2.6 is still way too flaky :(
1131533500 M * Krao vip-vs: ye ill just use mrtg
1131533508 M * harry eyck: we're moving to 2.6 now... ;)
1131533522 M * harry eyck: problem with 2.4 and smt is... it doesn't support smt
1131533537 M * harry it just sees it as smp, which is ... wel.... not good
1131533556 M * eyck harry: not a big problem, at least it works. 
1131533576 M * harry eyck: ahmm.... well... why not just disable smp then? ;)
1131533594 M * harry that works too... since it's only smt, it wouldn't make a big difference
1131533628 M * harry (especially if you're running a db on it, or any giant monolythical process
1131533629 M * eyck harry: 2cpu machines, loosing access to one cpu would not be very good
1131533655 M * harry 2 physical cpu's?
1131533720 M * Krao vip-vs: But can i do the mrtg when the real machine doesnt have the interface the vserver has?
1131533733 M * Krao vip-vs: i need the real server to log the vservers traffic via mrtg.
1131533764 M * eyck harry: yes.
1131533770 M * harry mrtg is deprecated... use rrd ;)
1131533780 M * harry eyck: true
1131533784 M * harry in that case :)
1131533789 M * Krao harry: ill use mrts with rrdtool
1131533795 M * eyck try munin
1131533800 M * harry Krao: ah, okay :)
1131533800 M * Krao naah
1131533820 M * Krao harry: but. Can mrts/mrtg listen to the traffic and account it when it doesnt have the interface ?
1131533821 M * harry eyck: then it would definately be worth while switching to 2.6
1131533829 M * Krao harry: only the vserver has ifupped the new interface.
1131533846 M * harry Krao: i don't know...
1131533859 M * harry i'm still setting up my first vserver myself :)
1131533893 M * Krao ah hehe
1131533977 M * harry the reason i'm here is because i can ask questions here if i encounter a problem
1131534146 M * vip-vs me too :)
1131534149 M * harry vip-vs: CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y
1131534162 M * harry i'd check that, and try with a 2.6.14
1131534166 M * harry see if that helps
1131534169 M * vip-vs mm..zzz  MPENTIUM4 ?? Mobile?
1131534177 M * harry no :)
1131534196 M * harry Processor family (Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/Xeon)
1131534208 M * vip-vs indeed:  CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y
1131534210 M * vip-vs got that
1131534226 J * Breaker_uk ~flopsy@host81-134-146-163.in-addr.btopenworld.com
1131534239 M * harry ah, in that case... i'd check all bios settings, acpi stuff, and try a 2.6.14
1131534259 M * vip-vs ok .. I'll to that ...  /afk
1131534272 M * harry keep us posted, okay? :)
1131534282 M * vip-vs ofcourse :)
1131534285 M * harry tnx
1131534376 A * harry gonna fix my own vserver testserver :)
1131534381 M * harry so afk too
1131534423 M * Krao  vip-vs: tell me when your here
1131535270 Q * Breaker_uk Quit: 
1131535501 M * daniel_hozac Krao: some iptables rules should be able to do it just fine.
1131535889 M * Krao ye. but its better with mrts/mrtg because then can my customers see the traffic stat.
1131536118 M * vip-vs Krao: you can use iptables to fill a rrd-DB and generate grafics from that
1131536141 M * vip-vs (never done that, but know it can be done)
1131536323 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-196.lhi.is
1131536345 M * Krao fedt
1131536353 M * Krao the kernel compile didnt successfully run
1131536354 M * Krao chbind: vc_set_ipv4root(): Function not implemented
1131536356 M * Krao cool
1131536356 M * Krao :&
1131536430 M * FaUl Krao: looks like you have no vserver-patches included
1131536493 M * FaUl Krao: did you do a reboot afterwards? what does 'uname -a' say? 
1131536554 M * Krao i think i forgot to cd to the kernel and do the export patch thing
1131536556 M * Krao will recompile
1131536559 M * daniel_hozac testme.sh output would be even more interesting.
1131536560 M * Krao "just" takes 2 hrs
1131536611 M * FaUl Krao: where do you compile? on your slowest mashine?
1131536664 M * Krao No "Context switching virtual private servers" patch found for kernel version 2.6.14
1131536665 M * Krao Patch /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/apply/vserver  failed.
1131536665 M * Krao Hit return to Continue
1131536668 M * Krao do i have to usse 2.6.12
1131536772 M * daniel_hozac no.
1131536782 M * FaUl Krao: no, but if you want to use 2.6.14, you have to use another patch, these here http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.14-vs2.0.1-rc1.diff i guess
1131537556 M * vip-vs think I just now got a problem with that version patch
1131537656 J * sebi_ ~sebi@Fcc60.f.strato-dslnet.de
1131537761 Q * sebi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131538888 J * Breaker_uk ~flopsy@host81-134-146-163.in-addr.btopenworld.com
1131539018 M * Krao hmm ill just use kern 2.6.12
1131540258 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.67
1131540551 J * ComplexHo ~ComplexHo@cpc1-brig3-6-0-cust194.brig.cable.ntl.com
1131541322 M * vip-vs Krao: seems to be a patch problem .. have to figure that out
1131541357 J * mrec_ ~revenger@p54B02EAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1131541377 M * Krao vip-vs: im recompiling with 2.6.12 now ;) ZZzzZZZZZ 2hrs.
1131541777 Q * mrec Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131541785 M * vip-vs Krao: what distro are you using?
1131541795 M * Krao Debian
1131541826 P * erwan_taf Leaving
1131541855 M * vip-vs :) why not use make-kpkg ??  
1131541870 M * vip-vs make-kpkg rebuild little differences in minutes or seconds
1131541949 A * harry always makes totally my own kernels etc...
1131541952 M * Krao im doing make-kokg
1131541952 M * Krao ;)
1131541955 M * Krao make-kpkg*
1131541984 M * vip-vs tjezz   2hrs?  ... on what hardware is that?
1131541997 M * Krao vip-vs: 1000mhz ;)
1131542072 Q * Greek0 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131542121 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1131542510 M * vip-vs harry: status update: I'm still trying to patch & compile 2.6.14, but patch rc1 and rc6 seem to break stuff
1131542578 M * vip-vs patching file init/version.c
1131542579 M * vip-vs Hunk #1 FAILED at 31.
1131542580 M * vip-vs 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file init/version.c.rej
1131542744 M * Krao can vserver install other systems than Debian?
1131542892 M * harry ?
1131542900 M * harry sec..
1131542905 M * Krao ?
1131542963 M * harry vip-vs: http://harry.ulyssis.org/patch-2.6.14-vs2.2.diff
1131542996 M * Krao i dont need the 2.6.14 diff patch. Im using 6.12 now.
1131543013 M * Krao my question is just can vserver install virtual servers with systems other than Debian?
1131543031 M * harry Krao: i would guess it is possible
1131543033 M * harry why not...
1131543043 M * harry but my patch was info for vip-vs :)
1131543053 A * harry just fixed his own vserver machine
1131543057 M * Krao oh :)
1131543061 M * harry time now... to install the vserver utils
1131543063 M * Krao does anybody know in here if its possibel
1131543063 M * Krao ?
1131543065 M * vip-vs harry: congrats
1131543104 M * harry vip-vs: it was just a problem with lilo + discs on an IBM shark that weren't there anymore :)
1131543119 M * harry time now... for compile fun!
1131543176 M * Krao hmm
1131543179 M * Krao why dont i have "vdlimit"
1131543360 M * vip-vs harry: same problem still
1131543375 M * vip-vs (with your patch)
1131543415 M * harry do you have a vanilla 2.6.14?
1131543426 M * harry it applied cleanly over here
1131543445 M * vip-vs wel think so ...debian kernel sources
1131543473 M * harry that's not vanilla :0
1131543474 M * harry :)
1131543499 M * vip-vs was not sure
1131543501 M * harry i got my kernel from kernel.org
1131543512 M * harry (or a mirror that's in our computer room :))
1131543538 M * harry Fetched 7021kB in 0s (14.1MB/s)
1131543540 M * harry HAH...
1131543545 M * harry gigabit ethernet rules :)
1131543560 M * vip-vs hmmzz ... can you tell me the difference between vanilla and other (eg. debian) kernel sources
1131543565 M * vip-vs yeah yeah ..you rule ;)
1131543570 M * harry the other ones are patched
1131543579 M * harry i don't know where debian stores it s patches
1131543584 M * harry but in fedora ...
1131543610 M * Krao Is it possibel to limit a vserver to only may use 200Mhz ?
1131543617 M * harry it has about 1 meg of kernel patches
1131543628 M * harry Krao: not like that i think
1131543634 M * harry but you can set limits on cpu usage
1131543642 M * eyck  hmm, completely fair scheduling
1131543647 M * harry it's in the docs
1131543671 M * vip-vs Krao: or watch the 'what the hack'  video presentation
1131543673 M * vip-vs ;)
1131543752 M * harry was any of you guys at wth too?
1131543813 M * vip-vs not me, but the video presentation can be viewed online
1131543822 M * harry i was there :)
1131543833 M * harry not at the vserver presentaton :(
1131543840 M * vip-vs hal2000 was just a mile a way from here :)
1131543850 M * harry you're dutc?
1131543852 M * harry dutch?
1131543859 M * vip-vs yep
1131543866 M * harry praat dan nederlands, he! :)
1131543875 M * vip-vs zekers :) haha .. is dat even mooi.
1131543902 M * vip-vs anyway ... harry, did you view the online video presentation?
1131543930 M * harry nope... haven't had time
1131543972 M * vip-vs I think after 40 min Bertl gives an example what vserver cpu-limiting can do
1131544011 M * Krao but aint it possibel to say that this vserve rmay only use 200Mhz
1131544018 M * vip-vs nope
1131544023 M * Krao its becuase i wanna offer vitualservers for a small price.
1131544029 M * vip-vs that's just not how it works in linux
1131544052 M * Krao then ill just have to monitor how much cpu they use
1131544053 M * vip-vs think you can limit in percentages, but not in Mhz :)
1131544053 M * Krao thats ok.
1131544063 M * Krao vip-vs: percent is okay.
1131544109 M * vip-vs and Mhz don't say anything about actual used resources.
1131544136 M * Krao but do you think vserver is strong enough and secured enough to use to make a small business on ?
1131544143 M * Krao i mean too sell small virtualservers with.
1131544183 M * harry Krao: where are you from?
1131544194 M * Krao Denmark. iknow my english sux
1131544199 M * harry your nick reminds me of greg Kroah-hartman
1131544215 M * Krao hehe okay. I just picked it when i connected :)
1131544226 M * vip-vs harry: your nick reminds me of Harry D. ?
1131544237 M * harry harry d??
1131544243 M * vip-vs guess not :)
1131544247 M * Krao haha :D
1131544251 M * harry what's the d stand for?
1131544251 M * vip-vs haha :)
1131544252 M * Krao vip-vs: but what do you thing ^^
1131544270 M * vip-vs first letter lastname
1131544309 M * harry who's last name?
1131544329 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1131544348 M * vip-vs never mind :) .... I'm going to build a kernel without vserver and see if I can get SMP/SMT to work
1131544476 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131544579 M * harry if it's an acpi problem... try upgrading bios
1131544645 M * vip-vs hmzz ... yezz that's an option also ..but first a no vserver 2.6.14 kernel
1131544686 M * Krao vip-vs
1131544689 M * Krao but do you think vserver is strong enough and secured enough to use to make a small business on ?
1131544693 M * Krao i mean too sell small virtualservers with.
1131544724 M * vip-vs Krao: well ... I am planning this too .... so they better be :0
1131544725 M * vip-vs :)
1131544726 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131544732 M * Krao vip-vs: :D :D
1131544734 M * Krao vip-vs: me2.
1131544754 M * Krao im coding a system right now to start stop servers online and so on
1131544758 M * Krao will be launching at friday.
1131544790 M * vip-vs hmzz  sure about that?
1131544805 M * Krao why not :)
1131544813 M * vip-vs I mean ...isn't it insecure?
1131544814 A * harry listening to: the berzerker - Corporal Jigsore Quandary
1131544836 M * Krao vip-vs: will they would have to login before they can restart there vserver and so on ofcourse
1131544839 M * harry Krao: it is secure enough etc...
1131544842 M * Krao and the connection would be SSL encrypted.
1131544843 M * harry and there is nothing faster
1131544856 M * Krao harry: oki ;)
1131544857 M * harry you can also try xen
1131544862 M * Krao nah
1131544862 M * harry which allows for real vm's
1131544875 M * harry it's like vmware esx, but better imho ;0
1131544876 M * harry ;)
1131544885 M * Krao ill stick to vserver
1131544935 M * harry vserver is the fastest
1131544941 M * harry good choice :)
1131544946 M * Krao ;)
1131544952 M * Krao btw.
1131544961 M * Krao vdlimit to limit hd usage. Where is it?
1131544963 M * Krao no such command.
1131544968 A * vip-vs is afk
1131545012 M * vip-vs Krao ..you should use some quota thingy ...think a patch is needed
1131545021 M * Krao vip-vs: hmm
1131545038 M * harry making vserver-utils!
1131545081 M * Krao http://linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits
1131545092 M * Krao aint that the esayist way?
1131545127 M * harry lol
1131545135 A * harry looks at some code i wrote some time ago
1131545143 M * harry what was i thinking/drinking! :)
1131545148 M * harry http://harry.ulyssis.org/code/udp.c
1131545153 M * harry (just for fun :))
1131545174 M * Krao  *  how does it work?
1131545174 M * Krao  *  - read the fucking sourcecode
1131545176 M * Krao haha :D
1131545193 M * Krao haha thoose quotes are nice :D
1131545285 M * harry in that case, read the shellcode encoder
1131545309 M * harry hm... that one's pretty serious actually
1131545321 M * Krao :D
1131545363 M * harry bleh... whatever... all fun stuff :)
1131545397 M * harry ow... don't be a smartass and try to find mp3's or 0day exploits :p
1131545437 M * Krao haha :D
1131545445 M * Krao i bed you have a disk full of 0day exploits
1131545451 M * harry naah
1131545462 M * Krao :D
1131545463 M * harry well.. there are 0days in that dir... problem is... you can't see them :p
1131545472 Q * Breaker_uk Quit: 
1131545478 M * Krao   CC      fs/quota_v1.mod.o
1131545478 M * Krao   LD [M]  fs/quota_v1.ko
1131545478 M * Krao   CC      fs/quota_v2.mod.o
1131545478 M * Krao   LD [M]  fs/quota_v2.ko
1131545479 M * Krao cool :)
1131545487 M * harry quota modules!!!!!!!!!!!
1131545495 M * Krao harry: damn :D show me the secret codes
1131545497 M * Krao of doom
1131545514 A * harry doesn't even have module support :s
1131545524 M * Krao harry
1131545525 M * Krao http://harry.ulyssis.org/code/hacked.html
1131545526 M * Krao wtf?
1131545528 M * harry Krao: you just have to know the exact names of the files:)
1131545535 J * Hocu_najlepsu ~posao@217.26.75.6
1131545536 M * Krao :P
1131545538 M * harry Krao: try that with a win95/win98
1131545558 M * harry just something i used to scare skiddies 10-5 years ago
1131545570 M * Krao haha :D
1131545588 M * harry check the source
1131545616 M * Krao wuuhuu its almost done compiling the kern.
1131545620 M * Krao like christmas.
1131545623 M * harry http://harry.ulyssis.org/perlrocks.png <== defacement of the stacksmashing contest page at 21c3 last year
1131545645 M * Krao lol :D
1131545669 M * harry there was only a level 5 :)
1131545679 M * Krao dpkg-deb: building package `kernel-image-2.6.12+vserver' in `../kernel-image-2.6.12+vserver_custom01_i386.deb'.
1131545680 M * Krao wuuhuu
1131545703 M * harry http://harry.ulyssis.org/test.c
1131545711 M * harry this, btw... is very interesting to exploit
1131545739 M * Krao hehe well only when its legal :D
1131545741 M * harry Linux vmware 2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc1-harry #1 SMP Fri Nov 4 16:04:21 CET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
1131545744 M * harry tadaaaaa :)
1131545753 M * Krao vmware?
1131545754 M * harry it's legal... you run it locally :)
1131545754 M * Krao wtf
1131545759 M * harry it's called vmware
1131545767 M * harry (it was a vmware testserver at first)
1131545769 M * harry then xen
1131545774 M * Krao and then vserver
1131545774 M * Krao :D
1131545775 M * harry now vserver
1131545777 M * harry uhu
1131545785 M * harry didn't feel like changing names every time
1131545787 M * harry ==> vmware :)
1131545795 M * Krao if vserver doesnt work now ill kill my self.
1131545801 M * harry if it all works , everything will be reinstalled
1131545824 M * harry Krao: drink some carlsberg
1131545829 M * harry that always helps
1131545832 M * harry of gammeldansk!
1131545837 M * Krao lol :D
1131545841 M * Krao where u from
1131545843 M * harry porse!
1131545845 M * harry belgium
1131545850 M * Krao been to denmark? ;)
1131545854 M * harry my parents know some people in .dk
1131545855 M * harry yes
1131545858 M * Krao oh cool :)
1131545859 M * harry few times
1131545861 M * Krao the weather sux.
1131545898 M * harry true :)
1131545906 M * vip-vs harry:  the BIOS option is maybe not the solution ... since I'm having the same trouble on other systems witch other mobo/bios
1131545934 M * harry ow
1131545934 M * vip-vs I think the problem is me doing something terrible wrong :)
1131545938 M * harry that kinda sucks
1131545939 M * harry uhu :)
1131545950 M * vip-vs but ....what !?!?!?!?  arggg
1131545953 M * harry i'd say: let me try... but that 's not an option i guess :)
1131545963 M * vip-vs no sorry
1131545968 M * harry :)
1131545974 M * harry pretty normal
1131545981 M * harry i can give you my .config
1131545988 M * vip-vs that's possible mom.
1131545995 M * harry but it 's no modules, only very specific hardware support etc...
1131546067 M * vip-vs http://pastebin.com/422960
1131546092 A * harry looks at all the options...
1131546098 M * harry will take some time... but i'll be back
1131546115 M * vip-vs ok thnx ... but I have to leave @16:00
1131546129 M * vip-vs but don't rush yourself :)
1131546230 M * harry how much memory does yoursystem have?
1131546248 M * vip-vs 2g :)
1131546260 M * harry then you have to enable high memory
1131546274 M * harry since 32 bits can only address < 1G
1131546297 M * harry you need an indexed pagetable, (something like NAT) for your memory
1131546309 M * harry (but that's not the problem... just some info aside :))
1131546316 M * harry #
1131546317 M * harry CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
1131546317 M * harry #
1131546317 M * harry # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
1131546360 Q * Hocu_najlepsu Quit: 
1131546378 M * vip-vs harry: thnx ... will note that
1131546419 M * harry this is my config: http://harry.ulyssis.org/config-2.6.11.8
1131546420 A * vip-vs will be right back
1131546423 M * harry hf
1131546530 M * vip-vs ok ..let's take a look
1131546567 Q * Guest145 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131546604 M * vip-vs where is "CONFIG_HPET_TIMER is not set" for?
1131546623 M * vip-vs harry: in your config is set to y
1131546627 M * vip-vs in mine not
1131546730 M * harry that could help maybe
1131546740 M * harry not sure
1131546751 M * harry (but please note that my kernels are never "normal" :)
1131546758 M * harry always grsec, no modules support etc... :)
1131546777 M * harry (never bootprobs, no initrd, no "evil" modules, no writeable /dev/kmem,...
1131546782 M * harry (yeah, i'm paranoid :))
1131546789 M * harry pax patches etc... :)
1131546823 M * vip-vs current kernel is voor development machine and security isn't that a big of issue since it runs pretty far away from inet
1131546857 M * vip-vs just finished compiling standard deban kernel 2.6.14 (with smp/smt, without vserver) ..lets see what that does
1131546858 M * harry it is over here :)
1131546867 M * harry good luck (again :))
1131546925 M * vip-vs dammit ... HPET_TIMER is not set ... well ..then reboot without :)
1131546939 A * vip-vs will be right back
1131546940 M * harry it's just another timer chip
1131546966 M * harry instead of the 8245 chipset, it uses something newer
1131546976 M * harry which MIGHT help, but looks a bit farfetched
1131547045 M * vip-vs and again ..nogo :) ...lets set that HPET_TIMER
1131547201 M * vip-vs and lets reboot again :D .... /afk
1131547208 M * harry hehe
1131547238 M * harry if you paste your lspci lines, i'm willing to try and compile a kernel for you
1131547245 M * harry (or just .config file)
1131547326 M * harry this one is the config from a VANILLA kernel with the patch that's on harry.ulyssis.org, and it works with smt: harry.ulyssis.org/config-2.6.14-harry
1131547331 M * harry that's what i'm running now
1131547336 M * harry dual xeon machine
1131547388 M * vip-vs and ............ nogo :(
1131547401 M * harry hmm..
1131547410 M * harry vip-vs: i suggest you use that last config i pasted
1131547419 M * harry go to kernel.org, download the 2.6.14 source
1131547425 M * harry use that vserver patch on my site
1131547427 M * harry my confi
1131547428 M * harry g
1131547433 M * harry that's what's running here
1131547438 M * vip-vs harry: thnx .. but I'm kinda feddup with it ... 
1131547443 M * harry if that doesn't work... there is something wrong
1131547447 M * vip-vs so ... it is enough for today :)
1131547452 M * harry with your system itself
1131547457 M * harry :)
1131547498 M * vip-vs Erg bedankt voor je hulp, maar ik denk dat ik later deze week het nog eens bekijk
1131547508 M * harry okee, veel plezier nog!
1131547516 M * harry bijna 16u... bijna koffie!!!!!
1131547525 M * vip-vs nogmaals bedankt! wellicht ben ik vrijdag weer online
1131547534 M * vip-vs haha :) ik drink geen koffie
1131547636 M * harry baaaaaaaaad nerd p
1131547637 M * harry :p
1131547920 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:ade2:b2b4:9e6b:7a5f
1131548025 Q * Krao Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131548076 A * vip-vs doesn't care :)
1131549589 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1131550183 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1131550186 M * Bertl morning folks!
1131550234 M * Bertl vip-vs: what's the problem?
1131550558 J * monrad ~monrad@port487.ds1-by.adsl.cybercity.dk
1131551368 Q * yungyuc Quit: leaving
1131551697 J * hallyn_ ~xa@c-24-11-247-114.hsd1.in.comcast.net
1131551875 M * harry Bertl: his smt machine only finds 1 cpy
1131551877 M * harry cpu
1131551880 M * harry instead of 2
1131551915 M * Bertl some mobos do not enable HT cpus properly
1131551931 M * Bertl (what does your manual (mobo) say about HT/SMT?)
1131551944 M * harry it's not mine... over here it works fine
1131551951 M * harry i don't know  what mobo's he has
1131551960 M * harry or she (you can never be sure ;))
1131551976 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:102f:2b00:604d:9a1b
1131552049 M * Bertl ah, okay, automatically completed 'his' -> 'this' :)
1131552182 M * Bertl harry: okay, tx, off again, back later ...
1131552191 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1131552372 J * the_hydra ~a_mulyadi@202.147.200.25
1131552385 M * the_hydra hello
1131552521 M * harry hey waterdude
1131553488 Q * VanMuur Remote host closed the connection
1131553690 Q * vip-vs Remote host closed the connection
1131554129 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1131554422 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU
1131554563 J * aphetadus ~joaopaulo@200-168-176-125.dsl.telesp.net.br
1131554684 P * aphetadus 
1131554690 J * aphetadus ~joaopaulo@200-168-176-125.dsl.telesp.net.br
1131554702 P * aphetadus 
1131555523 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving
1131556278 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1131556575 J * Larsioa ~lars@you.are.the.lamer.la
1131556582 M * Larsioa Is there a probber way to remove a vserver or just rm -r ?
1131557139 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975DE0.dip.t-dialin.net
1131557693 Q * the_hydra Quit: 
1131557872 J * dos000 ~dos000@CPE0006256d190c-CM0011aeff5db6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131559407 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1131559457 M * Greek0 Larsioa: I think there are some scripts, but afaik they're mostly broken. rm -rf is IMHO the way to wgo
1131559952 M * dos000 anyone know 2.6.8 or 2.4.27 is supported ?
1131560044 M * dos000 anyone did vserver on sarge yet ?
1131560110 M * Greek0 I'm running vserver on an etch and a sid system
1131560174 M * Greek0 everything will work fine on sarge if you're on x86 or amd64. I'm not sure if the sarge packages were fixed yet to work on other architectures
1131560233 M * dos000 i tried installing on sarge and it 1) warked flawlessy on one pc 2) refused miserably to pass kernel installition. something about yard dependency !
1131560271 M * Greek0 how "pass kernel installation"?
1131560300 M * dos000 i get dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6.14-1-386:
1131560300 M * dos000  linux-image-2.6.14-1-386 depends on yaird | initramfs-tools | linux-initramfs-tool; however:
1131560329 M * dos000 shit !!!!
1131560346 M * dos000 i just realized i made a typeo !
1131560624 M * Greek0 aehm. linux-vserver is a kernel patch, so you'll have to compile your own kernel anyway
1131560694 M * Greek0 that output shows that you probably compiled your kernel with initrd support, so you need some tool for that probably
1131560734 M * Greek0 I don't know very much about that initrd/initramfs stuff however, since all my kernels never use them.
1131561447 M * dos000 Greek0, thanx ... was a stupid typo
1131561987 Q * matti Quit: 8-X
1131562965 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 !
1131563516 Q * baggins Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131564831 M * mnemoc hi, can i make vserver to tell me what capability is a guest trying to use and was denied?
1131565299 M * daniel_hozac edit capable to printk something? i guess that wont work well for if (capable(...) || capable(...) || ...) like constructs though.
1131565410 M * mnemoc yuck
1131565470 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1131565597 J * vip-vs ~vip-vs@cc521104-d.ensch1.ov.home.nl
1131565607 M * vip-vs hi folks
1131565621 M * vip-vs harry: I got it to work with the vanilla sources 2.6.12.6 :D
1131565671 M * vip-vs harry: must be something wrong with the debian kernel sources ... should report this 
1131565803 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net
1131565917 J * monrad ~monrad@213.83.190.130
1131566605 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1131566652 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1131566662 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-112.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131567287 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975DE0.dip.t-dialin.net
1131567291 M * Viper0482 #madsgamechan
1131567313 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131567316 P * Viper0482 
1131567490 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4::
1131567641 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1131567647 M * Bertl evening folks!
1131567665 M * Bertl vip-vs: hmm some more debian related issues?
1131567680 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131567700 M * vip-vs hi Bertl!
1131567713 M * vip-vs Bertl: could be .. just posting on the debian mailinglist
1131567729 M * Bertl the HT issue? or what?
1131567740 M * vip-vs yep .. the HT issue
1131567755 M * Bertl so debian kernels (older?) do not recognize that?
1131567765 M * vip-vs when compiling debian kernel sources with SMP/SMT I get only 1 cpu ...from vanilla sources I get 2 
1131567781 M * vip-vs that I don't believe
1131567781 M * Bertl ah, great! which kernel versions?
1131567800 M * vip-vs shall I forward you the e-mail I posted?
1131567853 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1131567860 M * Bertl vip-vs: yes please
1131567902 M * vip-vs done....   this has nothing to do with the vserver patches ... I stopped patching at some point
1131568021 M * Bertl don't worry, 99% of all issues reported here, have absolutely nothing to do with linux-vserver :)
1131568043 M * Bertl and actually, I'm very happy that it is that way ...
1131568061 M * vip-vs ofcourse :)  ... but it drives me nuts for some weeks now
1131568079 M * Bertl sorry to hear that ...
1131568111 M * Bertl I still have a debian machine (x86_64) stuck at a certain setup, and I can't get forward or back ...
1131568116 M * vip-vs well ... not full time :)
1131568168 M * vip-vs maybe I should visit debian irc too :)
1131568267 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4::
1131568370 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-112.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131568440 M * Bertl welcome FireEgl! morning Aiken!
1131568455 M * FireEgl =D
1131568484 M * Aiken hello
1131568600 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1131568660 M * Aiken hopefully my last reboot for a bit, have 2.6.14-pre6 setup on this machine
1131568661 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131568728 M * Bertl pre6?
1131568747 M * Aiken vs-2.1.0
1131568953 J * schak schak@dslb-082-083-033-189.pools.arcor-ip.net
1131568967 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.28
1131568972 M * schak morning
1131569042 M * vip-vs evening :)
1131569089 M * Aiken the sun has only just come up, definately morning :)
1131569116 M * schak ;)
1131569164 M * schak has anyone a link where i can see the changes between patch-2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc6.diff and the stable 2.0?
1131569218 M * schak http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog26 <-- there is nothing to see
1131569267 M * mnemoc http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-vs2.0.1-vs2.1.0.diff <--- not really updated but close
1131569298 M * Bertl schak: nope, but you can have another delta :)
1131569329 M * Bertl between 2.0.1-rc1 and 2.1.0-rc* this time ...
1131569341 M * schak i wish clear text ;)
1131569356 M * schak or are the changes only bugfixes?
1131569372 M * daniel_hozac that's what 2.0.1-rc1 is for ;)
1131569383 M * Bertl schak: for 2.1.x nope, they are mainly features :)
1131569399 A * mnemoc wants rkill on 2.0.1
1131569408 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131569418 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131569506 M * Bertl mnemoc: I must have missed your extensive test reports on that one :)
1131569536 M * Bertl schak: the changelog will be updated when there is a release ...
1131569553 M * mnemoc Bertl: i have three vservers (about 20 guests) enjoying it :)
1131569565 M * mnemoc Bertl: what kind of tests do you want?
1131569657 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1131569681 M * Bertl mnemoc: well, we need to show that:
1131569700 M * Bertl - it doesn't do anything nasty with processes (like creating zombies, and such)
1131569722 M * Bertl - it doesn't lead to 'strange' tool issues (with mainline setups)
1131569748 M * Bertl - it does not show any issues on SMP (stress testing)
1131569770 M * Bertl - it works with ptrace (as far as ptracing is supported)
1131569791 M * Bertl except for that, I see no reason not to include it ...
1131569796 M * mnemoc the three machines are P4 with HT, with SMP enabled. no problems so far
1131569814 M * Bertl how many reboots yet? 1000? a milion?
1131569816 M * mnemoc zombies.... without rkill i was unable to stop a guest with runit
1131569825 M * mnemoc nah... production systems :p
1131569836 M * Bertl so, how many rkill invocations?
1131569868 M * mnemoc as a big total... around 120
1131569907 M * mnemoc but i haven't tested 'mainlines setups'
1131569919 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4::
1131569982 M * mnemoc i would need to born again to use a gentoo, debian or fedora :p .... i guess i'll have to live with my rkill patch ,-)
1131570122 M * eyck what is rkill?
1131570146 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-112.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131570179 M * mnemoc kill init after reboot
1131570182 M * mnemoc ^37 flag
1131570227 M * Bertl mnemoc: it's in 2.1.x after all, and we will feed it back asap, okay?
1131570234 M * mnemoc ok :)
1131570239 M * mnemoc 2.0.2 :)
1131570246 M * Bertl very likely
1131570276 M * Bertl I guess we will soon increase the stable patch rate
1131570287 M * Bertl (not much, but a little :)
1131570381 M * mnemoc what are you working on?
1131570731 M * Bertl mainly testing and ngnet right now
1131570748 M * mnemoc :)
1131570760 M * Bertl automated testing that is
1131571367 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1131572132 M * Bertl welcome gerrit!
1131572422 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131572486 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1131572828 J * brc bruce@201008046152.user.veloxzone.com.br
1131572833 M * brc good night
1131572862 M * Bertl night brc!
1131572983 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4::
1131573021 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975DE0.dip.t-dialin.net
1131573122 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later ...
1131573133 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1131573656 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1131573662 Q * yungyuc Quit: 
1131573773 M * brc i am curious, which vps tecnology does virtuoso use? is it his own ?
1131573940 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1131574008 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131574088 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1131574124 M * vip-vs harry: I did some more testing and it must be something in de kernel config ... I used an config from linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp, and adjusted the cpu type and it works: 2 cpu's in /proc/cpuinfo
1131574155 M * vip-vs harry next to find out were it went wrong :)
1131574295 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1131574352 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-112.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131574706 Q * Larsioa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131576013 M * jkl what's the latest vserver kernel version?>
1131576037 M * jkl Linux clu 2.6.11.11 #12 SMP Wed Sep 21 15:37:28 MDT 2005 i686 Celeron (Mendocino) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
1131576039 M * jkl hmm
1131576232 M * dos000 what is the utilitis version that match kernel 2.6.14 and the 2.0.1 ?
1131576334 M * dos000 just grab the latest ?
1131576395 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1131576439 M * jkl eh? *shrug*
1131576439 M * dos000 the web site is very confusing
1131576449 M * jkl life is confusing :)
1131576449 M * jkl hehe
1131576456 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131576552 M * dos000 jkl, i am just trying to follow http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6  but it looks like there are new utilities 2.0.9.
1131576594 M * dos000 i jsut built the 2.6.14-vs2.0.1-rc1 kernel
1131576604 M * dos000 and reboot went chmoot
1131576826 Q * vip-vs Remote host closed the connection
1131576884 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1131577602 J * dmytro ~dmytro@astra.ukrcom.kherson.ua
1131577676 M * dmytro hello everyone
1131577678 Q * schak Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131577957 J * MostlyHarmless ~mh@melbourne.mostly-harmless.ca
1131577982 M * dos000 anyone know if util-vserver-0.30.209.tar is 208 with a patch ?
1131578026 M * dmytro whats that server does
1131578132 M * dos000 or even if 209 has a patch or no
1131578152 M * dos000 dmytro, http://linux-vserver.org/
1131578179 M * dmytro how you changed your color ?
1131578218 M * daniel_hozac dos000: huh?
1131578279 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.209 is the next version, with quite a lot of fixes for problems in 0.30.208.
1131578329 M * dos000 daniel_hozac, do i need a patch at all ? the problem is 1)209 is not mentioned anywhere 2) the patches for 208 are located somewhere else ...
1131578334 M * dmytro 300 `ll have more fixes
1131578361 M * dos000 so i am left a bit confused ...
1131578366 M * daniel_hozac dos000: no. Bertl's fix03 patch has been incorporated.
1131578373 M * dos000 cool
1131578400 P * dmytro Client Exiting
1131578477 Q * Aiken Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131578872 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1131578960 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-112.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1131579027 M * dos000 anyone know why the e2fs dev libs are needed when building vutils ? i am planning on using ext2 or reiser
1131579057 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1131579084 M * Bertl dos000: that's easy, because they contain the necessary definitions for the ext2/3 attributes (which are also available on reiser)
1131579177 M * dos000 okay !
1131579264 M * dos000 darn ... i was thinking i had evry thing covered ...
1131579293 M * dos000 testme.sh tells me .. chcontext: vc_new_s_context(): Function not implemented tow!
1131579301 M * dos000 any idea ?
1131579324 M * Bertl hmm, patched kernel booted?
1131579327 M * dos000 shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
1131579357 M * dos000 i was on the wrong machine altogether !
1131579371 M * Bertl lol
1131579448 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1131579509 Q * Pazzo Quit: ...
1131579517 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it
1131579536 Q * Pazzo Quit: 
1131579542 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it
1131579615 M * dos000 testme .. passed :-)
1131579774 M * Bertl good!
1131579784 Q * Pazzo Quit: 
1131579821 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it
1131579841 M * dos000 is etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase supposed to be there ? i cant see it !
1131579861 M * dos000 maybe it has since the tutorial was writen
1131579865 Q * Pazzo Quit: 
1131579867 M * dos000 has changed
1131579872 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it
1131580001 M * daniel_hozac it should be a symlink pointing to /vservers
1131580027 M * daniel_hozac (assuming you used --sysconfdir=/etc when running ./configure)
1131580071 M * dos000 daniel_hozac, i passed nothing to configure
1131580084 M * dos000 what is the default
1131580089 M * daniel_hozac so it'll be /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase
1131580099 M * dos000 ha !
1131580121 A * dos000 is getting closer to the final line
1131580658 M * gerrit rehi Bertl