1131148827 M * Bertl it is the package list for the chosen distro IIRC
1131148846 M * Bertl ah, no, in the root path, it is the dir for external packages
1131148858 M * Bertl (externalized package management)
1131148912 M * michal_ i see... but i assume that something more is required to create it (internal structure ?) than mkdir ? ;)
1131149064 M * michal_ interesting, looks like not ;]
1131149713 M * michal_ hm, vserver build on fedora could omit yaboot ;]
1131149729 M * michal_ and ppc64 on 32 bit machine. not that it would matter ;)
1131149736 M * michal_ ppc64-tool
1131149737 M * michal_ s
1131149744 M * michal_ utils even
1131149939 M * Bertl we have no test on ppc64 yet ...
1131149953 M * Bertl would be interesting because of the 32bit emulation/compatibility
1131149998 M * michal_ yeah. how is amd64 support btw ?
1131150027 M * Greek0 Bertl: is patch-2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5-prelim.diff.bz2 latest&greatest?
1131150034 M * Bertl michal_: good, no scratch that, excellent :)
1131150041 M * michal_ :]
1131150044 M * Bertl Greek0: yes and no ...
1131150056 M * Greek0 -v
1131150066 M * Bertl Greek0: it's the latest and greatest official
1131150077 Q * Venomous Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1131150087 M * Bertl Greek0: you might want to add the iattr changes (we did with serge)
1131150100 M * Bertl Greek0: and one or the other version of the sendfile fix
1131150143 M * Greek0 where to find those?
1131150468 J * yarihm-PB ~yarihm@84-74-18-28.dclient.hispeed.ch
1131150468 Q * yarihm Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131150514 M * Bertl Greek0: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-2.0.1/ and the sendfile stuff is on the ML
1131150604 M * Greek0 thx
1131150754 A * michal_ ready to start fedora vserver
1131150768 A * michal_ holds on breath...
1131150794 M * michal_ Failed to start vserver 'crashme'
1131150796 M * michal_ ;p
1131150856 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131150900 M * michal_ Vserver 'crashme' is running at context '49167'
1131150901 M * michal_ ^^
1131150905 A * michal_ happy ;p
1131151205 M * Bertl dynamic contexts are evil :)
1131151352 M * michal_ i will pet this instalation someday, now i need to have network going
1131151584 M * michal_ actualy it was trivial 
1131151585 M * michal_ ;p
1131151610 M * michal_ hm. vserver is like apple hardware. just works ;p
1131151813 M * Bertl yes, that's the idea ...
1131151898 M * michal_ i see. and no joy for people born to fight with problems ? ;p
1131151953 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net
1131152095 M * Bertl michal_: for those we have the bleeding edge test stuff
1131152109 M * Bertl (and of course, you can test on untested archs)
1131152137 M * michal_ i'll take another route - learn about svn/svk merge features, vimdiff (are you using it ? the most unlogical tool for me)
1131152143 M * michal_ and merge with rsbac
1131152158 M * michal_ hm, which archs are untested ?
1131152233 M * Bertl no, never used vimdiff
1131152311 M * Bertl well, ppc64, arm, sh, sh64, mips, m68k, h8300, cris, frv, m32r
1131152331 M * Bertl Greek0: or do we have a mips test run yet?
1131152339 M * michal_ very uncommon ones
1131152365 M * Bertl well, I don#t consider ppc64 that uncommon (in the face of G5 hardware)
1131152396 M * michal_ all except ppc64 and arm
1131152400 M * Bertl cris, frv, m32r, and arm are probably not really relevant
1131152413 M * Bertl I'm not sure about m68k ...
1131152441 P * yarihm-PB Leaving
1131152718 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving
1131153200 M * michal_ interesting,i have networking inside guest, but cannot ssh to it from host machine, nor i can ssh from guest to host (each of them got its own sshd bind to separate addresses of course)
1131153241 M * michal_ ip of vserver guest is 192.168.7.1 and i cannot ssh to this ip even from guest ;p
1131153306 M * Bertl sure that you can not? and not that it just takes a little longer?
1131153319 M * michal_ define little ;)
1131153330 A * michal_ waits till it timeouts nwo
1131153332 M * michal_ *now
1131153333 M * Bertl well, as long as your 'resolver' takes to fail
1131153360 M * Bertl (after your IP can not be reversed)
1131153382 M * michal_ might be...
1131153710 M * michal_ Bringing up loopback interface:  Device lo does not seem to be present, delaying initialization.
1131153728 M * michal_ so this is next question - why it cannot find my lo
1131153747 M * Bertl lo is not 'visible' by default inside a guest
1131153772 M * Bertl aside from that, a guest should not do hardware initialization/shutdown at all
1131153816 M * michal_ interesting
1131153826 M * michal_ when my host lo was down i had that problem
1131153839 M * michal_ (not beeing able to ssh between guest and host)
1131153847 M * michal_ when it is now up and running and ip-ed 
1131153855 M * michal_ it is immidiatelly working 
1131153898 M * Bertl ahem?
1131153906 M * Bertl you really did take your lo down?
1131153932 M * Bertl (well this disables any linux server immediately :)
1131154049 M * michal_ i wonder how it could happen
1131154053 M * michal_ it was not me ! ;p
1131154148 M * michal_ ok. so basic functionality is there. i'll try more complicated things over time (like disk limits for guest, next on the list)
1131154566 M * Hollow heya *
1131154654 M * Bertl hey Hollow!
1131154720 M * Hollow hey Bertl! regarding network context.. i think we already talked about xid<->nix relation... what about removing nid completely and only create a network context for an exisiting context, without an exrta id?
1131154752 M * Bertl has some drawbacks ...
1131154780 M * Bertl 1) you cannot use chcontext and chbind (or vcontext/vnet) independantly
1131154797 M * Bertl 2) tagging of network and process related isolation is intermixed
1131154797 M * Greek0 Bertl: no, I haven't
1131154807 M * Bertl Greek0: ah, tx
1131154838 M * Bertl 3) network contexts might outlive process contexts, which would make them hang ...
1131154846 M * Hollow hm, ok.. do we need to relate the contexts anyway?
1131154850 M * michal_ ok. going to sleep now. have a nice everything ;)
1131154880 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net
1131154891 M * Greek0 My WRT is fine for userspace tests, but kernel testing on it isn't great, since I only have access over network, my 2 wrt boxes are actually all in "production use" (i.e. my internet connection is gone if I fuck things up), and the damn things need a binary-only module so wireless lan works. and that module only exists for 2.4
1131154939 M * Greek0 however if I was a little less lazy I could test kernels on my sparcstation
1131155021 M * wally hmm
1131155038 M * Bertl welcome wally!
1131155043 M * wally hi Bertl
1131155054 M * wally I saw you got to bed quite late last night ;)
1131155120 M * Hollow Bertl: another question wrt initpid (i assume we talked about it too) .. if we want to unchain the creation process what would be our possibilities?
1131155188 M * Bertl Hollow: ad relation: well, not necessarily ... for a start, I'd prefer that the user specifies an xid and nid ...
1131155215 M * Bertl Hollow: ad initpid, we could simply allow to 'set' it or have the init started from the kernel
1131155222 M * Hollow should he specify the nid, or should the tools assume xid=nid?
1131155251 M * Bertl I'd prefer to specify it explicitely, but if it is missing then xid=nid would be nice
1131155257 M * Hollow ok
1131155267 M * Bertl nid=xid actually, and if xid is missing too, then both dynamic
1131155282 M * Bertl (with a _BIG_ warning :)
1131155294 M * Hollow apropos... didn't we want to drop dynamic ids?
1131155307 M * Bertl yep, but I do not see that happen too soon
1131155313 M * Hollow why?
1131155338 M * Bertl because - thanks to debian and friends - 95% of the current setups use dynamic ids
1131155353 M * Hollow .oO(lovely gentoo)
1131155416 M * Hollow well, if we want to drop it we have to do it sooner or later, i'd rather do it sooner :P (at least we could make it configurable in the kernel, no?)
1131155421 M * Hollow and switch it off by default
1131155444 M * Bertl yes, definitely ...
1131155489 M * Hollow ok, ad initpid, what would it look like if the kernel starts init rather then start it and set its pid
1131155502 Q * wally Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1131155827 J * hallyn_ ~xa@c-24-11-247-114.hsd1.in.comcast.net
1131155903 Q * hallyn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131157175 M * Hollow Bertl: still alive?
1131157249 M * Bertl yup? did I miss something?
1131157258 M * Hollow [02:51] <Hollow> ok, ad initpid, what would it look like if the kernel starts init rather then start it and set its pid
1131157280 M * Bertl ah, well, it would immediately 'know' the pid, right?
1131157293 M * Hollow yeah, would it make any difference beside this?
1131157301 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net
1131157320 M * Bertl probably, especially for things like nice values and such
1131157526 M * Hollow hm, dunno.. guess i'll leave to bed now, quite tired already.. 
1131157535 M * Hollow let's talk about init tomorrow
1131157536 M * Hollow ;)
1131157590 M * Bertl okay, any idea for Johnnie?
1131157607 M * Hollow no, i never used bind
1131157614 M * Bertl k :)
1131157630 M * Hollow nite!
1131157635 M * Bertl good night!
1131157908 M * Johnnie I'm going to try a few things.
1131158093 Q * hallyn_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131158194 J * hallyn ~xa@c-24-11-247-114.hsd1.in.comcast.net
1131158923 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131159843 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131160478 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-168-211-185.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131160616 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131161248 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.107
1131161657 Q * hallyn Quit: leaving
1131163753 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131164203 Q * dhansen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131164377 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net
1131165804 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-168-211-185.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131166502 M * Bertl okay, enough for me for today ... I'm off to bed ...
1131166512 M * Bertl have a nice whatever everyone ... cya later ...
1131166517 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1131175774 Q * eyck Quit: leaving
1131176478 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1131176698 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131176828 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.48.203.255
1131177005 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131177146 J * Venomous Venom-One@host139-87.pool871.interbusiness.it
1131177156 M * Venomous hi all
1131178799 Q * wally Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131179678 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net
1131179875 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-168-211-185.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131181063 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131181314 Q * eyck Quit: leaving
1131181736 J * gerrit ~gerrit@24.22.41.133
1131181823 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1131182173 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549776A3.dip.t-dialin.net
1131182181 Q * Viper0482 Quit: 
1131182195 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549776A3.dip.t-dialin.net
1131184997 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131185034 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131188935 Q * gerrit oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * Viper0482 oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * tchan oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * mrec oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * shedi oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * Johnnie oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * flock oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * entroposcope oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * cryo oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * TheSeer oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * derbien oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * AndrewLee oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * locksy oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * cereal oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * Hollow oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188935 Q * Greek0 oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * eyck oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * NikDaPhreak oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * sebi oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * case oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * baggins oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * romke oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * Millox oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * gdm oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * mugwump oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * meebey oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * SNy oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * xzu oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * micah oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * neofutur_ oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * wally oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * dhansen oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * lazystoner oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * ARTenberg oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * mountie oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * Hunger oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * FireEgl oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * mnemoc oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * sladen oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * Bertl_zZ oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * Vudumen oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188940 Q * michal_ oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188941 Q * Sonarman oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188941 Q * virtuoso oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188941 Q * BWare oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188941 Q * alexx oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131188941 Q * ag- oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net
1131189008 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1131189008 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@tnlug.linux.org.tw
1131189008 J * derbien ~derbien@whiterabbit.nbmc.de
1131189008 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1131189008 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1131189008 J * cereal koepi@217.20.124.153
1131189008 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1131189008 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146
1131189008 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com
1131189008 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1131189008 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131189008 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1131189008 J * mrec ~revenger@p54B02208.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1131189008 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1131189008 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549776A3.dip.t-dialin.net
1131189008 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131189132 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1131189132 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net
1131189132 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net
1131189132 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.107
1131189132 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net
1131189132 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131189132 J * ARTenberg ~root@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-227.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr
1131189132 J * lazystoner ~niger@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1131189132 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.193.162.69
1131189132 J * sebi ~sebi@Fcc03.f.strato-dslnet.de
1131189132 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de
1131189132 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1131189132 J * xzu ~otto@brucester.a20.net
1131189132 J * SNy 992a5ceca4@bmx-chemnitz.de
1131189132 J * romke ~romke@procyon.romke.net
1131189132 J * Millox ~mattias@shienar.csbnet.se
1131189132 J * gdm ~gdm@209.51.169.84
1131189132 J * neofutur_ ~neofutur@neofutur.net
1131189132 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu
1131189132 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1131189132 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1131189132 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52
1131189132 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1131189132 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131189132 J * michal_ ~michal@mprivacy-update.de
1131189132 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1131189132 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net
1131189132 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1131189132 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@adsl-71-141-127-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
1131189132 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1131189132 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1131189428 Q * meebey oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * mugwump oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * micah oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * gdm oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * Millox oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * romke oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * xzu oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * baggins oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * case oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * sebi oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * NikDaPhreak oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * eyck oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * SNy oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189428 Q * neofutur_ oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * Hunger oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * mountie oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * lazystoner oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * dhansen oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * wally oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * ARTenberg oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * FireEgl oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * ag- oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * Sonarman oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * virtuoso oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * BWare oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189429 Q * alexx oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * michal_ oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * Vudumen oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * Bertl_zZ oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * mnemoc oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * sladen oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * gerrit oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * Viper0482 oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * mrec oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * shedi oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * Johnnie oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * flock oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * entroposcope oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * cryo oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * Hollow oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * cereal oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * TheSeer oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * derbien oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * AndrewLee oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * locksy oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * tchan oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189430 Q * Greek0 oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131189493 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1131189493 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net
1131189493 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net
1131189493 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.107
1131189493 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net
1131189493 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131189493 J * ARTenberg ~root@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-227.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr
1131189493 J * lazystoner ~niger@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1131189493 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.193.162.69
1131189493 J * sebi ~sebi@Fcc03.f.strato-dslnet.de
1131189493 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de
1131189493 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1131189493 J * xzu ~otto@brucester.a20.net
1131189493 J * SNy 992a5ceca4@bmx-chemnitz.de
1131189493 J * romke ~romke@procyon.romke.net
1131189493 J * Millox ~mattias@shienar.csbnet.se
1131189493 J * gdm ~gdm@209.51.169.84
1131189493 J * neofutur_ ~neofutur@neofutur.net
1131189493 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu
1131189493 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1131189493 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1131189493 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52
1131189493 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1131189493 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131189493 J * michal_ ~michal@mprivacy-update.de
1131189493 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1131189493 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net
1131189493 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1131189493 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@adsl-71-141-127-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
1131189493 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1131189493 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1131189497 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131189497 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549776A3.dip.t-dialin.net
1131189497 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1131189497 J * mrec ~revenger@p54B02208.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1131189497 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1131189497 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131189497 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1131189497 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com
1131189497 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146
1131189497 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1131189497 J * cereal koepi@217.20.124.153
1131189497 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1131189497 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1131189497 J * derbien ~derbien@whiterabbit.nbmc.de
1131189497 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@tnlug.linux.org.tw
1131189497 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1131190487 M * Venomous jhey
1131190488 M * Venomous guys
1131190492 M * Venomous i'm going crazy
1131190511 M * Venomous how compile this as module ipt_state
1131190514 M * Venomous damn
1131190529 M * Venomous can't figure what i nned to check under network options
1131190810 Q * locksy oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * AndrewLee oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * derbien oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * Greek0 oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * TheSeer oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * cereal oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * Hollow oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * cryo oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * entroposcope oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * flock oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * Johnnie oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190810 Q * shedi oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * tchan oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * Viper0482 oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * mrec oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * gerrit oxygen.oftc.net strange.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * meebey oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * mugwump oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * micah oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * gdm oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * Millox oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * romke oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * xzu oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * baggins oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * case oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * sebi oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * NikDaPhreak oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * eyck oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * SNy oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * neofutur_ oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * Hunger oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * mountie oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * lazystoner oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * dhansen oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * wally oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * ARTenberg oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * FireEgl oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * ag- oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * Sonarman oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * virtuoso oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * BWare oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * alexx oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * michal_ oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * Vudumen oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * Bertl_zZ oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * mnemoc oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190815 Q * sladen oxygen.oftc.net helium.oftc.net
1131190879 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1131190879 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net
1131190879 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net
1131190879 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.107
1131190879 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net
1131190879 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131190879 J * ARTenberg ~root@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-227.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr
1131190879 J * lazystoner ~niger@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1131190879 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.193.162.69
1131190879 J * sebi ~sebi@Fcc03.f.strato-dslnet.de
1131190879 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de
1131190879 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1131190879 J * xzu ~otto@brucester.a20.net
1131190879 J * SNy 992a5ceca4@bmx-chemnitz.de
1131190879 J * romke ~romke@procyon.romke.net
1131190879 J * Millox ~mattias@shienar.csbnet.se
1131190879 J * gdm ~gdm@209.51.169.84
1131190879 J * neofutur_ ~neofutur@neofutur.net
1131190879 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu
1131190879 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1131190879 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1131190879 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52
1131190879 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1131190879 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1131190879 J * michal_ ~michal@mprivacy-update.de
1131190879 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1131190879 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1131190879 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@adsl-71-141-127-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
1131190879 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1131190879 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net
1131190879 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1131190882 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1131190882 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@tnlug.linux.org.tw
1131190882 J * derbien ~derbien@whiterabbit.nbmc.de
1131190882 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1131190882 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1131190882 J * cereal koepi@217.20.124.153
1131190882 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1131190882 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146
1131190882 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com
1131190882 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1131190882 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1131190882 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1131190882 J * mrec ~revenger@p54B02208.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1131190882 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1131190882 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549776A3.dip.t-dialin.net
1131190882 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1131190977 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131191159 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131191162 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk
1131191567 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131191567 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131191697 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p5497776C.dip.t-dialin.net
1131192032 J * sebi_ ~sebi@Fd68d.f.strato-dslnet.de
1131192134 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131192136 Q * sebi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131192146 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131192161 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131192735 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131192735 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131192907 J * oliwel ~mail-at-o@host-62-245-151-178.customer.m-online.net
1131193300 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131193300 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131193874 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131193874 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131194583 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131194607 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131195114 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1131195114 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131196155 J * id ~id@213.155.81.155
1131196163 M * id Hallo
1131196216 M * daniel_hozac hi
1131196459 M * id i have one question - i used rlimit
1131196474 M * id and all is now ok - apache2 wise
1131196500 M * id when i enter the vserver on the first shell 
1131196538 M * id i can use ulimit -a to see my new defined value
1131196556 M * id if i enter a second shell i only have the default value
1131196605 M * id of max file discriptors - is that a normal behaviour ?
1131196645 M * daniel_hozac ulimits != rlimits
1131196737 M * id ok - but if i set the nofile value to e.g. 10000
1131196741 M * id in rlimit
1131196760 M * id i see ulimit -a ... open files                    (-n) 10000
1131196884 M * id am i totally wrong ? i will search google ... for the difference
1131198947 Q * oliwel Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [SUSE 1.0.6-16/20050715]
1131200712 M * Venomous hi guys
1131200725 M * Venomous for what is used the flag --context
1131200726 M * Venomous ?
1131201039 M * mnemoc to set context id
1131201082 M * Venomous so easch vserver has a different context id?
1131201102 M * mnemoc yes, that's why they are different vservers
1131201173 M * Venomous if i have a vservwer with contect 101 the second server must have a different context, right?
1131201216 M * mnemoc yes, like 102
1131201244 M * Venomous thanks
1131201251 M * mnemoc np
1131201418 M * Venomous mnemoc: 
1131201423 M * Venomous can i ask you a question?
1131201430 M * Venomous well
1131201437 M * Venomous for improving security
1131201452 M * Venomous i'm mounting /tmp as noexec using tmpfs
1131201456 M * Venomous but
1131201477 M * Venomous when the server reboot the content of tmp directory is lost
1131201492 M * mnemoc yes, tmpfs
1131201502 M * Venomous so there is a way to recreate some directory just after the vserver boot up
1131201506 M * Venomous example
1131201513 M * Venomous i use eaccelerator
1131201533 M * Venomous and i have the directory eaccelerator inside /tmp with write permission
1131201546 M * Venomous inside this folder i have some stuff
1131201551 M * Venomous so
1131201563 M * mnemoc mkdir -p   on eaccelerator's init?
1131201575 M * Venomous yes sure
1131201597 M * Venomous but i want find a way in order to mantein this file
1131201600 M * Venomous maybe
1131201612 M * Venomous with pre-start script
1131201621 M * Venomous and pre-stop script i can do this?
1131201643 M * mnemoc i guess not
1131201665 M * Venomous move the folder eaccelerator from /tmp before /tmp is unmounted, and then move it again when /tmp is mounted 
1131201684 M * Venomous so i don't lost /tmp file
1131201699 M * mnemoc why not telling eaccelerator to use some file on /var ?
1131201717 M * Venomous because
1131201732 M * Venomous eaccelerator is writable and is used by apache
1131201734 M * Venomous 777
1131201742 M * mnemoc o.o
1131201756 M * Venomous it cache php script
1131201772 M * Venomous so it must be created inside a non executable partition
1131201773 M * mnemoc why not owned by apache user?
1131201773 M * id try to set the cache dir outside /tmp
1131201785 M * Venomous read above
1131201807 M * Venomous i don't know
1131201844 M * Venomous well i will see this problem after
1131201906 M * SiD3WiNDR is there a patch for 2.6.14 ?
1131201930 M * mnemoc yes
1131201943 M * mnemoc at Experimental/ as usual
1131201991 M * SiD3WiNDR yea, but I don't know the path in front of Experimental/ :p
1131202053 M * SiD3WiNDR erk
1131202060 M * SiD3WiNDR silly me :p
1131202069 M * mnemoc http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/
1131202098 M * SiD3WiNDR yea, got it :)
1131202151 M * mnemoc :)
1131202186 M * SiD3WiNDR although there is no "real" patch for 2.x for it
1131202268 M * mnemoc what's real?
1131202293 M * mnemoc http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.14-vs2.0.1-pre3-prelim.diff.bz2 and http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5-prelim.diff.bz2 are real to me
1131202430 M * SiD3WiNDR real as in not rc/pre 
1131202439 M * SiD3WiNDR or am I missing something
1131202446 M * SiD3WiNDR like 2.6.14-vs2.0.1
1131202452 M * SiD3WiNDR prelim, sure, but pre3 = ?
1131202489 M * mnemoc because 2.0.1 (the next stable) is not yet released
1131202535 M * mnemoc 2.0 is the 'stable branch' and 2.1 the 'development branch'
1131202639 M * SiD3WiNDR ahh
1131202653 M * SiD3WiNDR so by real I mean "patch-2.6.14-vs2.0-prelim.diff".
1131202702 M * SiD3WiNDR anyway, applying & compiling :)
1131202911 M * mnemoc :)
1131203320 J * Breaker_uk ~flopsy@host81-134-146-163.in-addr.btopenworld.com
1131203499 M * daniel_hozac you probably want FOR-2.0.1/delta-iattr-clean0[12].diff as well ;)
1131203726 J * PferdTwo`niX ~asd@p54BEE6BE.dip.t-dialin.net
1131203815 M * PferdTwo`niX hello
1131205025 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131205087 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131205267 M * SiD3WiNDR daniel_hozac: okay, applied :)
1131205424 M * SiD3WiNDR kernel/power/pm.c:259: warning: `pm_unregister' is deprecated (declared at kernel/power/pm.c:85)
1131205429 M * SiD3WiNDR funny kernel developers.
1131205669 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1131209668 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1131209739 Q * shedi Quit: 
1131209921 J * Doener doener@i5387D3B6.versanet.de
1131210175 Q * Doener Quit: 
1131210185 J * Doener doener@i5387D3B6.versanet.de
1131210612 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1131210743 Q * Breaker_uk Quit: 
1131219127 J * henrik_ ~henrik@c-087472d5.01-206-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1131219202 N * henrik_ skotten
1131219275 Q * skotten Quit: 
1131219500 J * henrik_ ~henrik@c-087472d5.01-206-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1131219519 N * henrik_ skotten
1131219587 Q * skotten Quit: 
1131220113 J * henrik_ ~henrik@c-087472d5.01-206-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1131220137 N * henrik_ skotten
1131220230 M * ARTenberg  /nick STaN
1131220943 Q * skotten Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.
1131220944 Q * wally Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1131224471 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1131224667 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: Verlassend
1131226002 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497776C.dip.t-dialin.net
1131227089 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1131227274 Q * Venomous Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1131227863 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1131227870 M * Bertl morning folks!
1131227885 M * matti B.
1131227885 M * matti :>
1131227905 M * Bertl well, actually it's not that I jsut got up, but I had to restore my workstation, because of a disk failure :/
1131227914 M * Bertl hey matti!
1131227923 M * matti :)
1131227988 M * matti Bertl: Not good :/
1131228017 M * Bertl yeah, well, shit happens, it's back with 90% of my stuff, have to fix the remaining 10 though ...
1131228047 M * matti You need new HDD?
1131228070 M * mnemoc mandrake-between-8-and-10.2 died?
1131228096 M * Bertl mnemoc: _hardware_ the _disk_ died ...
1131228120 M * mnemoc yes, but with your OS on it i guess
1131228129 M * Bertl I have backups ...
1131228133 M * mnemoc :)
1131228156 M * Bertl matti: you would buy me one?
1131228179 M * matti Bertl: Maybe :)
1131228203 M * Bertl well, thanks for the offer, but no, I have one ...
1131228262 M * Doener evening Bertl!
1131228273 M * Bertl hey Doener! nice to see you!
1131228277 M * Bertl s/see/read/
1131228282 M * Doener :)
1131228411 M * Bertl btw, first progress with ngnet
1131228420 M * Bertl (will upload patches tonight)
1131228474 M * Doener using the new approach/concept/...?
1131228564 M * Bertl yep
1131229128 M * matti :)
1131229684 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131230000 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131230089 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1131230111 M * Bertl wb sladen!
1131230133 M * sladen :)
1131231504 M * Bertl hrm, hardware really sucks :)
1131231526 M * FaUl software too
1131231545 A * FaUl fightes with ospf over openvpn-tunnels
1131231557 Q * PferdTwo`niX Read error: Connection reset by peer
1131231562 M * Doener yeah, after my third hdd crash i finally got myself a raid-1 setup
1131231577 M * FaUl Doener: hehe
1131231629 M * Doener last disks survived about a year on average... the raid-1 setup still has the disks running with which i created it... murphy...
1131231642 M * Bertl Doener: well, currently I'm fighting with the bios, so actually FaUl is right, proprietary software sucks!
1131231649 M * Doener (got that setup for about 2 years now IIRC)
1131231819 M * FaUl Bertl: but neither the ospfd of the quagga-project nor openvpn is proprietary :-)
1131231830 M * Bertl well, then fix it! :)
1131231842 M * FaUl if i'd just find the problem
1131231843 J * mrec_ ~revenger@p54B02D9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1131231869 M * Bertl welcome mrec_!
1131232026 Q * sannes Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131232079 M * Bertl ah, finally, the 'funny' irq game is won ...
1131232096 M * FaUl Bertl: congrats
1131232226 M * Bertl tx
1131232260 Q * mrec Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1131232615 J * matti matti@atlantis.knm.org.pl
1131232656 M * Bertl wb matti!
1131232704 M * matti :)
1131233058 M * Doener Bertl: heh, i thought APIC would save me from that IRQ stuff, but no, when i got my new hardware two(?) weeks ago, i had some nice irq conflict between my graphics and my sound card... *sigh*
1131233101 M * Bertl well, apic will save you, but the ACPI in most bioses is broken ...
1131233175 M * Doener at least the acpi temperature stuff is broken in my bios... always reports 40° C
1131233189 M * Bertl ah, utf bios?
1131233200 M * Doener utf?
1131233227 M * Bertl .. always reports 40° C
1131233328 M * Doener ah, like utf-8? no, that's just my locale ;)
1131233350 M * Bertl (jeah, was a joke :)
1131233364 M * Doener but 40 degrees centigrade is hardcoded in the bios. (thermal zone stuff)
1131233703 M * Bertl did ag- show up?
1131233819 M * Bertl mef: ping?
1131234533 J * matti_ matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1131234547 Q * matti Quit: 8-X
1131234552 N * matti_ matti
1131234924 M * Bertl Doener: how about checking a few patches we plan to add for 2.0.1/have added to 2.1.x ?
1131234940 M * Doener sure
1131234946 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1131234974 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-2.0.1/delta-iattr-clean01.diff
1131234978 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-2.0.1/delta-iattr-clean02.diff
1131234994 M * Bertl (it might be simpler to apply both, and check the resulting patch)
1131235113 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net
1131235134 M * Bertl welcome wally!
1131235152 M * matti Uf.