1131062450 M * Hollow sure :) 1131063821 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131063919 Q * jkl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131064189 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1131066701 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1131066817 J * jkl eric@c-67-176-40-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1131067060 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-135.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1131067126 M * Bertl morning Aiken! 1131067133 M * Bertl welcome jkl! 1131067184 M * Aiken hi 1131067200 M * calum Bertl never sleeps.. :) 1131067205 A * calum is amazed 1131067205 M * calum :) 1131067224 M * Bertl calum: actually I sleep a lot .. 1131067245 M * Aiken it seems at times that you keep close to .au time 1131067256 M * calum Hmm - must be that you sleep at the same times as me then 1131067268 M * calum I'm a 3am to 2pm guy 1131067270 M * calum :) 1131067286 M * Bertl very likely, you might check the logs ... 1131067291 M * calum But I've been told that there's something wrong with that 1131067325 M * Bertl well, I'm more the 7am to 4pm guy ... but it really depends ... 1131067344 M * Bertl (that's the time I sleep best :) 1131067371 M * calum Im chuffed btw - thanks for the help getting X working in a vserver 1131067395 M * calum Worked well after I got a greeter, and sorted out the perms on /dev/ptmx, etc, etc 1131067399 M * Bertl you're welcome! and you might write some words to the ML or on the wiki ... other folks did try that too ... 1131067415 M * mnemoc Bertl: 7am to 4pm on what TZ? :) 1131067424 M * calum Point me at the Wiki page you want me to scrawl on, and I'll dump a few words on there 1131067429 M * Bertl mnemoc: local timezone ... (CET) 1131067528 M * Bertl calum: http://linux-vserver.org/Linux-Vserver+FAQ 1131067544 M * calum Hokay.. :) 1131067550 M * Bertl calum: maybe a separate section right below '# Running an X server inside a vserver' 1131067560 M * calum Hokay 1131067577 M * calum Shall I link it to a new page, or just put it in the main one? 1131067607 M * Bertl if you prefer a separate page, you could take the entire X stuff and restructure it there ... 1131067613 M * calum Hokay 1131067651 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/X11 for example? 1131067683 M * Bertl (or http://linux-vserver.org/Xserver if you prefer that) 1131067694 M * calum OK 1131067972 M * mnemoc Bertl: what do you do against wiki spam and vandalism? 1131068088 M * Bertl we have the HackerPage .. 1131068114 M * Bertl (and a black list for the really really bad guys :) 1131068139 M * Bertl but the Hacker Page works for 99% 1131068318 A * mnemoc trying to find out what 'HackerPage' without much luck :\ 1131068352 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ (read the second paragraph) 1131068435 M * mnemoc :D 1131069036 M * Bertl calum: there is a preview feature too :) 1131069059 M * calum Yep, I see it. :) You don't like my release early, release often way? :) 1131069083 M * Bertl well, we also have a wiki ML, not sure folks there like it too much :) 1131069106 M * calum Oh, shit :) 1131069108 M * calum Sorry 1131069118 M * Bertl np, just keep it decent :) 1131069174 M * calum I'm working on a laptop, and a few times recently it's overheated, and just powered off, so I'm not trusting lots of work to it. 1131069179 M * Bertl calum: btw, you might also consider setting a name ... but that's details ... 1131069209 M * calum So people know it's not you.. :) 1131069229 M * Bertl check the history ... 1131069351 M * calum I called the page Vservers and X, because it's not just about Xservers on Vservers... 1131069395 M * calum I need to get my other (noisy) machine powered up to be sure of the files I changed, and the rest of the stuff. 1131069403 M * calum I'll do it tomorrow 1131069410 M * Bertl okay, np, TIA 1131069411 M * mnemoc Vservers and X or vserver's wiki isn't a bit redundant? 1131069440 M * calum True - but X is a bit short, isn't it? 1131069460 M * Bertl the name is fine ... 1131069461 M * calum I don't mind what the consensus is 1131069471 M * mnemoc you win 1131069492 M * calum It's not a competition :) 1131069511 M * mnemoc :) 1131070128 M * calum You know what I've been thinking? 1131070148 M * calum There's a lot more interest in client-server computing nowadays, what with Gmail, and AJAX and all that 1131070180 M * calum How about a webpage with a Java X server on it, that connects back to a server running X sessions in Vservers? 1131070202 M * calum Remote, worldwide access in a browser to a desktop 1131070206 M * Bertl why not, sun is always happy if somebody does something with java :) 1131070286 M * calum I've always thought that Terminal Services (or whatever the right term is) is a good way to go if you want a fairly standard set of apps, and no hardware/multimedia access 1131070304 M * calum And coupled with a Java applet X server, and vserver, it could be very good 1131070322 M * Bertl especially if the java server can 'reattach' 1131070325 M * calum http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/ 1131070328 M * calum Yep 1131070337 M * calum Suspend the X session if necessary 1131070349 M * calum And come back in a few days from a new IP 1131070363 M * calum I can't quite get the browser applet in WeirdX to work 1131070373 M * calum But the command line version does 1131070386 M * calum I thought Java was supposed to not allow network access from an applet? 1131070436 M * calum I can see my idea as something Google could do - big server farm running locked down desktops, and letting users run apps on them 1131070460 M * Bertl possible ... 1131070482 M * calum Wouldn't even have to be too locked down - 1 X session per vserver - with unification :) 1131070555 M * calum I might try it on my datacentre server - see how responsive it is over the internet 1131070574 J * xevanx ~rsevandud@207-118-125-242.dyn.centurytel.net 1131070578 M * Bertl good, keep us posted (ML) 1131070583 M * Bertl welcome xevanx! 1131070596 M * xevanx Hey 1131070622 M * xevanx can somebody help me? 1131070632 M * Bertl very likely ... 1131070647 M * calum Heh 1131070662 M * calum If Bertl can't help you, I'll eat my hat 1131070679 M * Bertl well, depends on his/her needs ... 1131070698 M * calum My hat is tasty 1131070701 M * calum I've eaten it before 1131070705 M * xevanx lol, well i was running a dual boot windows xp and mandriva and all of a sudden when i try to boot mandriva it just wont load at all... 1131070724 M * Bertl probably windows did something evil ... 1131070733 M * xevanx kinda what i thought.. 1131070748 M * xevanx is there any way to fix it? 1131070750 M * Bertl you got the install CD for mandriva? 1131070754 M * xevanx yeah] 1131070772 M * calum When I first tried Linux, I thought it was likely to randomly kill my Windows partition. Many years later, it's Windows I don't trust. 1131070782 M * Bertl xevanx: boot from there, IIRC, there is even a recover option 1131070786 M * calum (Haven't run Windows at home for eyars now) 1131070814 M * Bertl xevanx: if not, choose update and skip to 'write bootblock/loader' 1131070831 M * Bertl (you want to rewrite the boot block) 1131070836 M * xevanx yeah i tried that, i even reinstalled mandriva it still wont load 1131070857 M * xevanx boot block? 1131070868 M * Bertl hmm .. what does it say if you 'try' to load it? 1131070910 M * xevanx nothing, it just goes to the mandriva loading page and never loads... the loading bar stays empty FOREVER 1131070910 M * calum You haven't left a floppy in? (I did that once, and couldn't work out why I kept getting a Insert System Disk error all the time) 1131070924 M * xevanx i dont have a floppy drive :P 1131070932 A * calum must be old 1131070937 M * Bertl xevanx: what if you press ESC very early? 1131070941 M * xevanx na its a laptop 1131070950 M * xevanx never tried.. 1131070967 M * xevanx can i just delete the whole partition? 1131070968 M * Bertl should change the splash screen to a log 1131070985 M * Bertl sure you can, but I guess that won't help ya much 1131071001 M * xevanx well i wanna give ubuntu a shot 1131071012 M * xevanx seems to work for everyone 1131071016 M * Bertl then simply install it 1131071030 M * xevanx and will it take mandriva's spot 1131071031 M * Bertl (you can reuse the partition) 1131071031 M * xevanx ?? 1131071054 M * Bertl but laptops are always tricky .... 1131071075 M * Bertl mostly because manufacturers don't give a damn to make them compliant to anything 1131071091 M * Bertl they fix up their bugs in the windows drivers ... 1131071107 M * Bertl (of course, this doesn't help other OSes 1131071122 M * xevanx do you think norton goback had anything to do with it? 1131071139 M * Bertl no idea, never used it (don't know what it is) 1131071171 M * xevanx oh its just a back-up program incase you need to umm backup :P 1131071189 M * daniel_hozac quick question, what's the relation to vserver? 1131071197 M * Bertl xevanx: I mostly use dump/restore for that 1131071208 M * xevanx ah 1131071239 M * calum daniel_hozac, It's called **Linux**-vserver.. :) 1131071244 M * calum Must be ralted 1131071246 M * calum related 1131071281 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure xevanx desperately tries to test linux-vserver, which in turn requires a linux distro ... 1131071312 M * xevanx what? 1131071337 M * Bertl otherwise he would not join the vserver channel and ask, no? 1131071353 M * calum Yes, that must be it 1131071353 M * Bertl xevanx: *hint* 1131071391 M * xevanx i guess i have no idea what you guys are hinting towards... 1131071430 M * Bertl xevanx: well, you probably have a reason _why_ you did choose this irc channel, no? 1131071466 Q * [MUPPETS]Gonzo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131071483 M * xevanx mainly because it had the most people in it and i couldnt fint any labled "help" 1131071507 M * Bertl ah, see, I know there was some reasoning behind that decision ... 1131071548 M * xevanx was it wrong of me to join this server in search of this question? 1131071577 M * daniel_hozac so _that's_ why we get so many weird, unrelated questions. 1131071578 M * xevanx an answer to my question i meant 1131071583 M * Bertl no, but it's unusual to pick a channel at random ... we might as well talk about the meaning of life ... 1131071590 M * xevanx lol 1131071599 M * xevanx yeah i understand 1131071613 M * Bertl and I guess you would not be happy about answers like 42 :) 1131071677 M * Bertl xevanx: sidenote: now you're popular too, because the channel is logged ... 1131071699 M * daniel_hozac s/popular/famous/? 1131071709 M * Bertl yep, tx :) 1131071769 M * xevanx well thank you for your help Bertl and sorry for not using the proper subject for this channel 1131071795 M * Bertl you're welcome! and np, hope you got some info though ... 1131071821 P * xevanx 1131071842 M * calum :) 1131071847 M * calum Logged? Arrgh 1131071855 M * calum The world will know about my plans! 1131071857 M * Bertl LOL 1131071881 M * daniel_hozac haha 1131071894 M * calum And here was me thinking it was private, just you, me, and 68 other random people 1131071900 A * calum waves at the other random people 1131071904 M * calum Cooo-ey 1131071908 M * Bertl calum: it's realtime, so probably some smart chinese folks are shipping the first prototypes ... 1131071925 M * calum :) 1131071973 M * calum I'm never going to ask another question 1131071977 N * calum not-calum 1131071992 M * Bertl rotfl 1131072111 M * not-calum Got to say, a quick Google can't find it 1131072115 M * not-calum What's the URL? 1131072130 A * not-calum feels violated.. :) 1131072130 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/ 1131072150 M * not-calum hah. :) 1131072608 M * not-calum Well, I think I'm going to scoot... 1131072625 M * not-calum Thanks for all your help today Bertl 1131072636 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1131073045 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131073084 Q * not-calum Quit: Leaving 1131073100 J * domaintechnik domaintech@83.215.227.5 1131073110 M * Bertl welcome domaintechnik! 1131073128 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1131073135 M * Bertl welcome sladen! 1131073426 N * domaintechnik domtec^eat 1131073563 M * Bertl domtec^eat: bon appetit! 1131073576 M * domtec^eat merci 1131074230 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1131074253 M * Bertl hola stefani! :) 1131074269 M * stefani danke! . 1131075563 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1131075576 M * Bertl morning gerrit! 1131077742 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0, 2.0.1-pre2, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0-rc4 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1131077742 T * Bertl - 1131077753 M * Bertl ah :) 1131077954 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1131078186 Q * meebey Remote host closed the connection 1131078205 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1131078368 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1131080124 Q * stefani Quit: going away now... 1131081846 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131081866 Q * meebey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131082065 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1131083147 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549749E8.dip.t-dialin.net 1131084348 J * wally01 ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net 1131084358 Q * wally Read error: Connection reset by peer 1131084650 J * wally ~homebase@sg27-gw.1090.kapper.net 1131084748 Q * wally01 jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * meebey jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * mnemoc jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * mugwump jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * sebi_ jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * micah jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * neofutur_ jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * gdm jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * Millox jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * romke jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * NikDaPhreak jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * baggins jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * click jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * case jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * xzu jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084748 Q * SNy jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1131084852 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1131084852 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.76 1131084852 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1131084852 J * sebi_ ~sebi@Fd1da.f.strato-dslnet.de 1131084852 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1131084852 J * neofutur_ ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1131084852 J * gdm ~gdm@209.51.169.84 1131084852 J * Millox ~mattias@shienar.csbnet.se 1131084852 J * romke ~romke@procyon.romke.net 1131084852 J * SNy 992a5ceca4@bmx-chemnitz.de 1131084852 J * xzu ~otto@brucester.a20.net 1131084852 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1131084852 J * click click@ti511110a080-4596.bb.online.no 1131084852 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de 1131084884 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-4596.bb.online.no 1131084885 Q * click Read error: Connection reset by peer 1131085705 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now ... have a nice one everyone! 1131085718 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1131085863 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1131086353 N * domtec^eat domtec_w0rk 1131086392 Q * domtec_w0rk Quit: Leaving 1131088004 J * Guest50 ~Miranda@83.215.237.5 1131090871 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1131091308 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1131091573 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.193.162.69 1131092060 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549749E8.dip.t-dialin.net 1131094984 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1131095336 J * wigy ~wigy@adsl-1-172.pool.tvnet.hu 1131095457 P * wigy 1131095726 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131096296 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net 1131097044 Q * Johnnie Quit: G'bye! 1131097058 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net 1131097085 J * Doener doener@i5387E321.versanet.de 1131097192 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1131097387 M * ag- Bertl_zZ: pong and sorry, i was away with despicable real life committements ;P 1131098537 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-204.lhi.is 1131100759 Q * Doener Quit: Leaving 1131100837 J * [MUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de 1131101366 Q * NikDaPhreak Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131101959 J * mef_home ~mef@pcp09872021pcs.ewndsr01.nj.comcast.net 1131101965 Q * mef_home Quit: 1131102197 J * mef_home ~mef@pcp09872021pcs.ewndsr01.nj.comcast.net 1131102272 Q * mef_home Quit: 1131103381 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1131103451 J * [dt]-vreak sp@83.215.237.10 1131103776 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@84.151.63.176 1131104105 J * vip-vs ~vince@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com 1131104112 M * vip-vs hi folks! 1131104177 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131104468 M * vip-vs Over here I got 4 vserver-guest running on a system with 1GB of memory .... the total for VSZ is: 1185M and the total for RSS is: 463M .... When do I run to the fysical limitations of this vserver host? 1131104645 Q * ag-2 Quit: leaving 1131104762 M * FaUl vip-vs: you'll notice - I'ts usally when the box startes to swap itself to death or you get random-processes killed by the kernel :-{ 1131104765 M * FaUl :-) even 1131104792 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: Verlassend 1131105343 J * calum ~calum@82-69-161-141.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1131105358 N * calum anonymous 1131105366 N * anonymous anonymouse 1131105452 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549776A3.dip.t-dialin.net 1131105639 J * sebi ~sebi@Fcc03.f.strato-dslnet.de 1131105746 Q * sebi_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131106117 J * STaN ~root@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-227.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr 1131106127 M * STaN Hello all 1131106154 M * STaN Bertl i see your video prestation on vserver... great moment! 1131106264 N * [dt]-vreak domtec 1131106427 P * STaN 1131107472 M * vip-vs : thnx, but memory usage of the vserver-guests running is kinda predictable .... Should I watch the VSZ value or the RSS value when calculating actually used MEM of all vservers? 1131107583 M * daniel_hozac RSS is actually used memory. 1131107673 M * daniel_hozac free would also be able to tell you how much memory you're using. 1131107779 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.193.162.69 1131108479 M * vip-vs : of course :) 1131108537 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131110875 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1131111515 J * comdata ~mertins@mx01.scheller.de 1131111551 M * comdata moin 1131111617 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-168-211-185.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1131111639 M * comdata running the 2.1 patches for kernel 2.6.14 here and experiencing some network problems (dropped connections etc.) 1131111645 M * comdata anyone? 1131112411 M * daniel_hozac nothing in the kernel logs, i presume? 1131112438 M * comdata yes nothing there 1131113423 Q * erwan_taf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131113423 Q * anonymouse Read error: Connection reset by peer 1131113616 P * domtec 1131113655 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1131114103 M * vip-vs hi Bertl! 1131114106 M * Bertl morning folks! 1131114170 M * vip-vs I somehow managed to duplicate a vserver-guest. (cp -av and updated /etc/vserver/guest) ... if I now apt-get in vs1 then it will also apt-get in vs2 ... how did I do that ?? 1131114260 M * Bertl well, you have some symlinks in the tree based config 1131114262 M * vip-vs I changed context ID and ipadress, uts/nodename, name, interface/0/ip en so on 1131114268 M * mef mornign 1131114285 M * Bertl vip-vs: maybe you managed to mess them up (i.e. do not change them properly) 1131114291 M * Bertl mef: good morning! 1131114304 M * daniel_hozac vip-vs: and the vdir symlink? 1131114307 M * vip-vs Bertl: could be ..should this be in the host config? 1131114325 M * vip-vs : I changed vdir & run symlink 1131114332 M * vip-vs (but will check again) 1131114346 M * vip-vs aah found it ..... 1131114375 M * vip-vs changed the vdir symlink to its old value (so actually changed nothing :) ) 1131114460 M * Bertl lol 1131114479 M * vip-vs I must spend some time setting up a 'template' ... does this template make it possible to share part among vserver-guests? 1131114498 M * daniel_hozac you don't need a template for unification. 1131114505 M * daniel_hozac (if that's what you want) 1131114554 M * vip-vs unification ..sounds cool .... that I should look up :) 1131114639 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1131114672 P * erwan_taf 1131114772 M * comdata Bertl: hi 1131114797 M * Bertl hey comdata! 1131114803 M * comdata Bertl: yesterdays update to patch 2.1.0-xx had some consequences 1131114817 M * Bertl ah, devel testing? 1131114818 M * comdata the network connections suddenly dropped 1131114846 M * comdata Bertl: patch-2.6.14-vs2.1.0-rc5-prelim.diff.bz2 1131114867 M * Bertl yes, what I mean is, you are now testing the devel branch? 1131114912 M * comdata I was running the kernel with this version 1131115031 M * comdata is there anything new with the network stuff? 1131115075 M * Bertl some minimal changes IIRC 1131115131 M * Bertl what I just wondered is: you had 2.6.9-rc3-vs1.9.3-rc2 running 1131115146 M * Bertl and now you updated to the 2.1.x devel tree? 1131115200 M * Bertl and regarding dropped conenctions, what do you observe (some details please) 1131115218 M * comdata Bertl: it was the last in the patches series and since amd64 is always a bit devel-code use 1131115251 M * Bertl well, I appreciate it, but for production, I'd go for the stable branch 1131115252 M * comdata Bertl: normal http-pages were served fine <11000 bytes 1131115288 M * Bertl okay, and others? 1131115302 M * comdata Bertl: larger files dropped randomly in chunks of about 11296 bytes 1131115342 M * comdata Bertl: this was the same for vservers and the host 1131115344 M * Bertl anything in the logs? 1131115368 M * Bertl looks like it might be related to the sendfile issue 1131115377 M * comdata no, neither apache, nor dmesg said something 1131115419 M * Bertl hmm, could you check with a vanilla 2.6.14 kernel? 1131115432 M * Bertl (only host behaviour) 1131115463 M * comdata it's difficult at the moment 1131115483 M * Bertl okay, maybe later ... 1131115544 M * daniel_hozac so reproducing it is just apache serving files larger than 11k? what NIC driver? 1131115571 M * comdata daniel_hozac: tg3 1131115592 M * comdata Bertl: preparing my second opteron machine for that 1131115611 M * comdata Bertl: will see if I can reproduce it with that machine 1131115625 M * daniel_hozac oh, opteron. can't check that :( 1131115795 M * comdata I am leaving work, will maybe comeback later, cu 1131115802 M * Bertl okay, cya! 1131115804 Q * comdata Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1131116087 Q * vip-vs Remote host closed the connection 1131116388 J * STaN ~root@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-227.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr 1131116479 P * STaN 1131116513 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131116585 Q * Guest50 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1131116587 J * ARTenberg ~root@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-227.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr 1131116592 P * ARTenberg 1131116973 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later (translocating) 1131116973 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1131117033 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1131117378 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.48.203.255 1131117719 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1131118042 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.48.203.255 1131118328 Q * tchan Remote host closed the connection 1131118363 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1131118904 J * id ~id@p54A00E31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1131118907 M * id Hi 1131118944 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1131118957 M * id is there a way to utilize ulimt inside a vserver ? my system is running out of file descriptors. 1131119278 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vservers//rlimits/nofile 1131119589 M * id jo i just found it in the wiki 1131119593 M * id thanx 1131119898 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.48.203.255 1131120183 M * FaUl hallo dddd44 1131120190 M * FaUl s/ha/he 1131120333 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1131121639 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1131122316 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1131122757 J * Breaker_uk ~flopsy@host81-134-146-163.in-addr.btopenworld.com 1131123141 J * ARTenberg ~root@LSt-Amand-152-31-36-227.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr 1131123156 J * Exomorph ~Greg@216.251.129.6 1131123251 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk 1131124028 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131124448 J * Venomous Venom-One@host139-87.pool871.interbusiness.it 1131124451 M * Venomous hi all 1131124462 M * ARTenberg hi 1131124491 M * Venomous guy i need to mount /tmp as NOEXEC for all the virtualserver 1131124495 M * Venomous how proceed? 1131124553 M * ARTenberg i am a new in this technologie! :) 1131124599 M * mnemoc Venomous: change fstab ? 1131124849 M * Venomous hu menmoc 1131124852 M * Venomous ok guys 1131124862 M * Venomous i'm sad 1131124865 M * Venomous i has been hacked 1131124886 M * Venomous i think someone used an'exploit for phpbb 1131124904 Q * Breaker_uk Quit: 1131124913 M * Venomous i'm sure they have downloaded some shit in the /tmp that was not secured 1131124926 M * Venomous and now they have installed an'eggdrop and psybnc 1131124928 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1131124941 M * Venomous before remove all i want first secure the virtual server 1131124976 M * Venomous because they can't can load any modules inside the kernl i think that i don't need to destry the virtual server 1131124981 M * ag- Venomous: mount -o noexec,nosuid ? 1131124999 J * lazystoner ~niger@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1131124999 M * Venomous well 1131125003 M * Venomous on the normal server 1131125010 M * Venomous i create a new partition 1131125057 M * Venomous and then i mount it as tmp with noexec e nosuid 1131125073 M * Venomous but i don't know if i can do the trick also with vserver 1131125078 M * Venomous maybe ui should try? 1131125081 M * Venomous ok 1131125084 M * Venomous i will try 1131125099 M * Venomous lets' see what happen 1131125108 M * ag- Venomous: you can then mount your /tmp on anything else with mount --bind 1131125150 M * Venomous but i have read the with the new vserver util is possible to mount /tmp with noexec 1131125153 M * Venomous anyway 1131125161 M * Venomous i'm going to try 1131125188 M * mnemoc /etc/vservers/foo/fstab 1131125212 M * Venomous i don't have that file 1131125214 M * Venomous i have 1131125238 M * Venomous only /etc/vserver/name_of_server.conf 1131125272 M * mnemoc legacy config, legacy features :) 1131125297 M * Venomous uhm so? 1131125326 M * Venomous i have util-vserver-0.30 1131125364 M * daniel_hozac even legacy utils. 1131125369 M * daniel_hozac 2.4 kernel? 1131125376 M * Venomous yes 1131125388 M * FaUl may someone please try to traceroute 193.43.220.2? :-) 1131125440 M * mnemoc FaUl: dies at 5 FastEthernet0-0-0.TG1.GIA1.LAC.ALTER.NET (64.116.192.9) 4.868 ms 2.554 ms 2.156 ms for me 1131125514 M * FaUl mnemoc: thx 1131125663 M * Venomous ok 1131125666 M * Venomous i'm in trouble 1131125673 M * Venomous can this topic help me? 1131125674 M * Venomous http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200506/0018.html 1131125841 P * ARTenberg 1131126079 M * id cya 1131126080 Q * id Quit: Leaving 1131126181 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-168-211-185.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1131126317 M * Venomous sorry guys 1131126331 M * Venomous withare the latest vserver.util? 1131126504 M * mnemoc util-vserver-0.30.209 1131126536 M * Venomous ok 1131126566 M * Venomous i have unterstood that i need to compli the utils with the support for legacy api 1131126679 Q * Viper0482 Quit: Verlassend 1131127104 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1131127108 M * Bertl back now ... 1131127514 M * Venomous Bertl 1131127547 M * Venomous can i use the vserver.utils 0.30 to mount /tmp as noexec? 1131127577 M * michal_ Bertl: can i ask you some (only a bit ;) offtopic question about pam ? 1131127610 M * michal_ i am using pam_rsbac instead of pam_unix for our own authentication and authorisation mechanism 1131127618 M * Venomous guys, i can't find the download for the latest vserver-utils 1131127646 M * michal_ but, it won't work without rsbac in a kernel (like vserver kernel) 1131127670 M * michal_ so i wonder what could i do to make pam try pam_rsbac, and if it fails, pam_unix 1131127675 M * Venomous are this the latest? vserver-0.31.src.tar.gz 1131127724 M * michal_ making 1131127732 M * michal_ auth sufficient pam_rsbac 1131127740 M * michal_ and later auth sufficient pam_unix 1131127744 M * michal_ does not help 1131127757 M * daniel_hozac Venomous: http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/ 1131127843 M * Bertl Venomous: maybe, why would you want to? 1131127992 M * Venomous Sorry Bertl, i'm going crazy. I need to mount /tmp directory for the vserver with noexec..but i'm going crazy.... 1131127996 M * Venomous sorry 1131128004 M * Venomous i can't find any docs 1131128020 M * Bertl Venomous: IIRC, the tools do that by default 1131128034 M * Bertl Venomous: it seems you are using very old tools 1131128041 M * Venomous 0.30 1131128050 M * Bertl yes, as I thought, what distro? 1131128063 M * Venomous host distro? 1131128066 M * Bertl yep 1131128073 M * Venomous is a red hat enterprise 1131128080 M * Venomous kernel 2.4 1131128096 M * Bertl okay, should not be too hard to compile util-vserver 0.30.209 there 1131128110 M * Venomous where i can find it? 1131128123 M * Bertl new guests (with a new style config) will automatically mount tmp as noexec, IIRC 1131128125 M * Venomous i only see 0.30 1131128136 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/ 1131128157 M * Venomous thanks a lot 1131128160 M * Bertl (as daniel already pointed out) 1131128170 M * Venomous ops 1131128174 M * Venomous haven0t seen! 1131128207 M * Venomous so i need to compile it with legacy support? 1131128208 M * Venomous ./configure --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-apis=legacy 1131128236 M * Bertl just compile it, legacy should be enabled by default 1131128261 M * Venomous ok 1131128265 M * Bertl start with ./configure, check the last pag(pathes) 1131128270 M * Bertl *page 1131128273 M * Venomous and so bert 1131128290 M * Venomous i need to create a fake dev 1131128299 M * Venomous and mount it as no exec? 1131128311 M * Venomous if is mentioned i will read the doc 1131128416 M * Bertl Venomous: no, I'm pretty sure you do not need to do anything special with the new tools 1131128434 M * Bertl util-vserver mounts tmpfs on /tmp 1131128476 M * Venomous so the file inside /tmp can't be executed? 1131128548 M * Bertl only thing you need to change is the fstab in /etc/vservers/d_name 1131135823 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure your headers are broken, but in this case they should be from the dietlibc ... 1131135831 M * Bertl which dietlibc version did you isntall? 1131135839 M * Venomous 0.21 1131135854 M * Bertl uhmm ... okay, let's retry with 0.28 or 0.29 then :) 1131136320 M * mnemoc why not diet-less? :) 1131136392 M * Bertl because we want a secure and working setup :) 1131136435 M * mnemoc :) 1131136617 M * Venomous finger crossed.....running make 1131136707 M * Venomous ok 1131136717 M * Venomous vserver-utils installed 1131136729 M * Venomous i'm going to run the command for make the skeleton 1131136784 M * Bertl yep, you might need to add --force 1131136823 M * Venomous again that error! 1131136825 M * Venomous dammit 1131136827 M * Venomous wait 1131137106 M * Venomous ./usr/local/lib/util-vserver/vserver-build: line 206: -n: command not found 1131137108 M * Venomous nothing 1131137121 M * Venomous i have removed all 1131137156 M * Venomous ok 1131137163 M * Venomous worked with --force 1131137163 M * daniel_hozac i think i got that too. 1131137224 M * Venomous ./etc/vservers/vmonna/apps 1131137224 M * Venomous .Renamed '/etc/vservers/vmonna' to '/etc/vservers/vmonna.~1131137309~' 1131137263 M * Bertl okay, good 1131137273 M * Bertl now let's adapt the guest 1131137279 M * Venomous ok 1131137300 M * Bertl mv /vservers/vmonna.orig/dev /vservers/vmonna/dev.orig 1131137325 M * Bertl mv /vservers/vmonna/dev /vservers/vmonna.orig/dev 1131137336 M * Venomous done 1131137443 M * Bertl mv /vservers/vmonna /vservers/vmonna.new 1131137451 M * Bertl mv /vservers/vmonna.orig /vservers/vmonna 1131137473 M * Bertl after that, let's test start the guest with 1131137480 M * Bertl vserver vmonna start 1131137616 M * Venomous error 1131137619 M * Venomous uhmmmmmm 1131137633 M * Bertl what erro? 1131137636 M * Bertl *error 1131137639 M * Venomous http://pastebin.com/417545 1131137688 M * Venomous seems problemi mounting 1131137728 M * Venomous none /proc proc defaults 0 0 1131137729 M * Venomous none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1131137729 M * Venomous none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 1131137758 M * Bertl you did run the 'make distro-install' which was suggested after the 'install'? 1131137818 M * daniel_hozac isn't it install-distribution? 1131137837 M * Venomous already happened seems http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2005-09/LOG_2005-09-30.txt 1131137842 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, right, tx! 1131137849 M * Venomous no 1131137873 M * Venomous it has been not siggested 1131137876 M * Venomous ops 1131137878 M * Venomous suggested 1131137881 M * Venomous only 1131137903 M * Venomous a suggestion regarding make install-distributions 1131137936 M * Venomous in fact 1131137948 M * Venomous the shellscript siggested me to run make install-distribution 1131137950 M * Bertl okay, do that ... 1131138032 M * Venomous Sorry bertl 1131138041 M * Venomous from wich directory? 1131138160 M * Venomous from the ultils-vserver directory doesn't work 1131138240 M * Bertl from the dir you did the 'make isntall' 1131138247 M * Venomous doesn't work 1131138252 M * Bertl just do a 'make install-distribution 1131138263 M * Venomous i have done that! 1131138290 M * Bertl and, didn't work? 1131138345 M * Venomous no 1131138367 M * Venomous secure-mount: chdir("/dev/pts"): No such file or directory 1131138368 M * Venomous /etc/vservers/vmonna/fstab:3:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1131138390 M * Venomous seems that this device doesn't exist 1131138404 M * Bertl okay, let's check something 1131138413 M * Bertl what does 1131138435 M * Bertl ls -la /vservers/vmonna/dev 1131138442 M * Bertl output (pastebin.com) 1131138545 M * Venomous directory doesn't exist! 1131138587 M * Bertl hmm, so what did we move there? 1131138596 M * Bertl 21:48 < Bertl> mv /vservers/vmonna/dev /vservers/vmonna.orig/dev 1131138600 M * Bertl 21:50 < Bertl> mv /vservers/vmonna.orig /vservers/vmonna 1131138641 M * Venomous ls -lah /vservers/vmonna.new/dev 1131138646 M * Venomous here axist 1131138667 M * Bertl so check your history, you probably forgot one of my commands 1131138688 M * Bertl (or maybe I'm very confused :) 1131138909 J * hallyn ~xa@c-24-11-247-114.hsd1.in.comcast.net 1131138915 M * Bertl welcome hallyn! 1131138930 M * hallyn good afternoon 1131138969 M * Venomous dammit 1131138976 M * Venomous copied 1131138978 M * Venomous with 1131138983 M * Venomous cp -Rp /vservers/vmonna.new/dev /vservers/vmonna/ 1131138987 M * Venomous but 1131138993 M * Venomous i got error 1131139030 M * Venomous ]# vserver vmonna start 1131139031 M * Venomous No command specified; try '--help' for more information 1131139031 M * Venomous An error occured while executing the vserver startup sequence; when 1131139031 M * Venomous there are no other messages, it is very likely that the init-script 1131139032 M * Venomous () failed. 1131139034 M * Venomous Common causes are: 1131139034 M * Venomous * /etc/rc.d/rc on Fedora Core 1 and RH9 fails always; the 'apt-rpm' build 1131139036 M * Venomous method knows how to deal with this, but on existing installations, 1131139036 M * Venomous appending 'true' to this file will help. 1131139040 M * Venomous Failed to start vserver 'vmonna' 1131139076 M * Bertl okay, that looks better ... 1131139103 M * Bertl check the /etc/rc.d/rc inside the guest, and add the true command 1131139146 M * Venomous no 1131139151 M * Venomous is a Slackware 1131139158 M * Venomous doesn'd exist 1131139202 M * Venomous maybe 1131139208 M * Venomous i can try with /vservers/vmonna/etc/rc.d/rc.0 1131139219 M * Venomous basically is the same file 1131139270 M * Venomous but doesn'thelp 1131139373 M * Bertl ah, wait, the geust is slack? 1131139384 M * Bertl thought you said something about RH 1131139435 M * Venomous the guest is slack 1131139445 M * Bertl okay, does it ahve an /sbin/init? 1131139466 M * Bertl if so, try to change the init style to 'plain' 1131139627 M * Venomous yes 1131139640 M * Venomous where change it? 1131139676 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131139729 M * Venomous ok 1131139793 M * Venomous Bertl 1131139797 M * Venomous ./usr/local/sbin/vserver: line 2: /etc/vservers/vmonna/scripts/generic.sh: No such file or directory 1131139920 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1131140251 M * Venomous Bertl you there? 1131140260 M * Bertl yes, I'm here ... 1131140299 M * Venomous ./usr/local/sbin/vserver: line 2: /etc/vservers/vmonna/scripts/generic.sh: No such file or directory 1131140316 M * Venomous this file doesn't exist 1131140317 M * Bertl yes, saw that ... who/why would it try /etc/vservers/vmonna/scripts/generic.sh ? 1131140365 M * Venomous boh 1131140414 M * Bertl you did not add any stuff from your previous attempts, yes? 1131140432 M * Venomous nothing 1131140658 M * Venomous Bertl 1131140663 M * Venomous it's strange 1131140672 M * Bertl yes, it is :) 1131140675 M * Venomous i have this inside this file 1131140676 M * Venomous wait 1131140680 M * Venomous pre-start 1131140685 M * Venomous #!/bin/bash 1131140685 M * Venomous source /etc/vservers/vmonna/scripts/generic.sh 1131140698 M * Venomous what is supposed to do this file? 1131140720 M * Venomous what happens if i comment the line? 1131140745 M * Bertl where is the pre-start script? 1131140768 M * Venomous ./etc/vservers/vmonna/scripts 1131140780 M * Bertl where does it come from? 1131140790 M * Venomous bohhhhhhhhhhh 1131140803 M * Venomous probally when i have converted the config file? 1131140815 M * Venomous i have used that script 1131140825 M * Venomous i have this file 1131140826 M * Bertl ahem? I asked you about stuff from the previous attempts? 1131140841 M * Bertl 22:40 < Bertl> you did not add any stuff from your previous attempts, yes? 1131140841 M * Bertl 22:40 < Venomous> nothing 1131140853 M * Venomous Bertl, believe me i'm exausted, sorry 1131140863 M * Venomous anyway 1131140865 M * Bertl okay, remove the entire scripts dir 1131140878 M * Venomous tell me waht i need to remove from that dir 1131140919 M * Venomous i have this file 1131140921 M * Venomous drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4.0K Nov 4 22:51 . 1131140922 M * Venomous drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4.0K Nov 4 21:48 .. 1131140922 M * Venomous drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Nov 4 21:48 apps 1131140922 M * Venomous -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12 Nov 4 22:25 bcapabilities 1131140922 M * Venomous -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1 Nov 4 22:25 context 1131140922 M * Venomous -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11 Nov 4 22:25 flags 1131140922 M * Venomous -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 113 Nov 4 22:25 fstab 1131140924 M * Venomous drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Nov 4 21:48 interfaces 1131140924 M * Venomous -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7 Nov 4 22:25 name 1131140926 M * Venomous lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Nov 4 21:48 run -> /usr/local/var/run/vservers/vmonna 1131140926 M * Venomous lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Nov 4 22:25 run.rev -> /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev 1131140928 M * Venomous drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Nov 4 22:25 uts 1131140928 M * Venomous lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Nov 4 21:48 vdir -> /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/vmonna 1131140966 M * Bertl what's in the bcapabilities ? 1131141006 M * Venomous CAP_NET_RAW 1131141021 M * Bertl I thought you wanted security? 1131141102 M * Venomous wait 1131141108 M * Venomous started 1131141134 M * Venomous but i got some error 1131141139 M * Venomous about 1131141147 M * Bertl pastebin.com 1131141152 M * Venomous mountpoint already mounted 1131141189 M * Venomous http://pastebin.com/417613 1131141266 M * Bertl okay, try to shut it down 'vserver vmonna stop' 1131141394 M * Venomous vkill: vc_ctx_kill(): No such process 1131141466 M * Venomous Bertl 1131141471 M * Venomous is stopped 1131141476 M * Venomous i have some file 1131141485 M * Venomous and i think that are wrong 1131141531 M * Venomous inside /etc/vservers/vmonna/interfaces/0 i have dev ip mask name prefix 1131141578 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131141605 M * Bertl Venomous: you should 'restart' with the config process 1131141624 M * Bertl let's do that again, and please don't forget a command 1131141631 M * Bertl I'll list them ... 1131141654 M * Venomous Bertl 1131141657 M * Bertl mv /etc/vservers/vmonna /etc/vservers/vmonna.old 1131141675 M * Bertl mv /vservers/vmonna /vservers/vmonna.old 1131141676 M * Venomous now works 1131141691 M * Bertl hmm? 1131141713 M * Venomous but first let me tell you that you are a real "Sir". 1131141722 M * Venomous anyway 1131141761 M * Venomous inside dev i have eth0 inside ip my ip inside mask my ip inside name 0vmonna and inside prefix 23 1131141784 M * Bertl that looks fine 1131141801 M * Bertl except for the mask file, which should not be there 1131141868 M * Venomous Bertl, because i need to perform this action on other 2 vserver, can you tell me wich file i should create insider /etc/vserver/guest/* 1131141882 M * Venomous as ican see the converter script doesn't work 1131141897 M * Bertl as I said, don't use it ... 1131141916 M * Bertl make sure that you _remove_ existing config dirs in /etc/vservers 1131141936 M * Bertl then _create_ them with the 'vserver build -m skeleton 1131141963 M * Bertl as we did in the example run (just adjust the arguments) you might also add the --initstyle 1131141983 M * Venomous ok 1131141984 M * Bertl this _will_ write a proper config ... 1131142000 M * Venomous ok 1131142012 M * Bertl for details, see the Flower Page ... 1131142089 M * Venomous Bertl last question 1131142115 M * Venomous what about /tmp mounting? 1131142140 M * Venomous now is commented 1131142178 M * Bertl you have a file called fstab in the /etc/vservers/ 1131142182 M * Venomous in fact 1131142187 M * Venomous i have inside it 1131142188 M * Venomous #none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1131142196 M * Venomous as you can see is commneted 1131142220 M * Bertl uncomment that and add whatever you want (including noexec 1131142246 M * Venomous can i add noexec,nosuid,rw 0 0 1131142249 M * Venomous so 1131142273 M * Venomous none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777,noexec,nosuid,rw 0 0 1131142280 M * Venomous should work, right? 1131142288 M * Bertl yep, just check that your kernel has tmpfs at all 1131142295 M * Venomous ok 1131142304 M * Bertl otherwise use shmfs or ramfs or a ramdisk 1131142323 M * Bertl (or alternatively a separate partition) 1131142441 M * Venomous can i create a fake device? 1131142454 M * Venomous usually i create a fake hd inside dev 1131142465 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-24-22-41-133.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1131142525 M * Venomous basically inside /dev i do dd if=/dev/zero of=tmpMnt bs=1024 count=100000 1131142548 M * Venomous then i create a filesystem 1131142549 M * Venomous mke2fs /dev/tmpMnt 1131142587 M * Venomous and i add this on the fstab 1131142597 M * Venomous ./dev/tmpMnt /tmp ext2 loop,noexec,nosuid,rw 0 0 1131142670 M * Bertl well, the loopback device really isn't a good solution 1131142675 M * Bertl too much overhead ... 1131143426 M * Venomous Bertl, again many thanks! i'm going out to drink a beer, and io want take a bit of fresh air. /tmp works great! bye all see you later ! 1131143443 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1131143451 M * Venomous thanks! 1131144344 J * Vantage__ hidden-use@tor149-99-34-67.dedicated.sprintdsl.ca 1131144351 M * Bertl welcome Vantage__! 1131144355 M * Vantage__ hi! 1131144440 M * Vantage__ i've got a bunch of vservers setup and having one small problem. the host os is debian sarge and all the virtual servers are debian sarge and all run exim4. The problem is it takes a really long time to connect to exim4 on any of them to send mail. I had the same problem with ssh, but solved it by adding 127.0.0.1 localhost servername to the hosts file, but exim still causes problems. any ideas? 1131144493 M * Bertl name resolver? 1131144513 M * Bertl what does /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch inside the guests contain? 1131144533 M * Bertl does name resolving (and ip reversing) work inside the guest? 1131144541 M * Vantage__ the local dns server 1131144619 M * Vantage__ names resolve fine and pinging hosts is no problem 1131144630 M * Bertl what about ip reverses? 1131144702 M * Bertl btw, you should not use 127.0.0.1 localhost 1131144713 M * Bertl you should use localhost 1131144751 M * Vantage__ works fine 1131144757 M * Vantage__ really? 1131144771 M * Bertl yup, 127.0.0.1 is remapped to the first guest ip 1131144852 M * Vantage__ ugh, even restarting exim takes forever... 1131144867 M * Vantage__ no luck with changing the hosts file 1131144876 M * Bertl well, maybe you should strace -fF it, and upload the output somewhere? 1131144913 M * Vantage__ the restart or the connection? 1131144930 M * Bertl whatever takes unusually long 1131144935 M * Vantage__ both :) 1131144973 Q * hallyn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131144991 M * Bertl Vantage__: in this case, go ahead, trace both 1131144998 M * Vantage__ hrmm on restart it keeps repeating this last bit 1131145001 M * Vantage__ gettimeofday({1131144927, 921393}, NULL) = 0 1131145002 M * Vantage__ [pid 23653] poll( 1131145010 M * Vantage__ pauses at the poll line 1131145033 M * Bertl (pastebin.com) 1131145136 M * Vantage__ Bertl: can you upload full files there or just snippits? 1131145253 M * Bertl well, you can upload it wherever you like ... 1131145358 M * Vantage__ http://pastebin.com/417665 1131145365 M * Vantage__ that seems to be where it hangs on start 1131145429 M * Bertl well, that's nice but not conclusive ... 1131145430 J * mrec ~revenger@p54B02208.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1131145438 M * Bertl it is waiting for a child process ... 1131145472 M * Vantage__ any idea how to track that down? 1131145487 M * Bertl the full trace should provide the information 1131145502 M * Bertl (strace -fF -o full.trace ....) 1131145637 M * Vantage__ http://pastebin.com/417674 1131145644 J * hallyn ~xa@c-24-11-247-114.hsd1.in.comcast.net 1131145672 M * Vantage__ pauses on every one of the poll( 1131145694 M * Bertl 132.147.160.150 is? 1131145700 M * stefani i'm looking at any exim i might have. 1131145765 M * Vantage__ dns server 1131145784 M * Bertl so the dns is _not_ responding 1131145844 M * Vantage__ ugh, it's our POS local dns server... I replaced it with an external one and it's fine... thanks a ton! 1131145848 Q * mrec_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131145859 M * Bertl you're welcome! :) 1131145867 M * Vantage__ weird though since it repsonds fine to dns requests... but i always suspected something wasn't right with it... 1131145884 M * Bertl those are dns requests :) 1131145926 M * ARTenberg Bertl... 3 hours with Venomous... ouah! Your are a veterant! 1131145929 M * Vantage__ thanks again! 1131145934 P * Vantage__ Kopete 0.10.3 : http://kopete.kde.org 1131145997 M * ARTenberg Good night :)) 1131146180 M * Bertl night! 1131146362 Q * tchan Quit: WeeChat 0.1.6-cvs 1131146377 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1131147022 A * michal_ compiling vserver-utils now 1131147072 M * Bertl which arch? 1131147176 M * michal_ ppc 1131147178 M * michal_ fedora core 4 1131147241 M * Bertl ah, enrico's nightmare ... 1131147260 M * michal_ why is it so ? ;) 1131147306 M * Bertl you're not subscribed to the ML? 1131147316 M * Bertl give me a minute to search it ... 1131147339 M * michal_ hm, i am not, i'll subscribe 1131147439 M * Bertl http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg11249.html 1131147515 M * michal_ thx, but for me everything just compilled fine :) 1131147518 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1131147523 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-18-28.dclient.hispeed.ch 1131147560 M * Bertl michal_: great! you might report that back, and provide the binaries? 1131147608 M * michal_ sure, i'll have to learn how to build them first. say tommorow (i'll do it all at once, after setting vserver guest here so i can report it succeded.) 1131147635 M * daniel_hozac enrico is only building on FC5. 1131147636 M * Bertl yep, no need to hurry ... 1131147649 M * daniel_hozac (i've always wondered why...) 1131147725 M * Bertl I'd say the gcc/diet is broken (at least for the cross builds) 1131147769 M * michal_ testme - everything success 1131147788 M * daniel_hozac how about make check? 1131147818 M * michal_ 30.208 utils btw 1131147823 M * daniel_hozac why not 209? 1131147824 M * michal_ 2.6.12.4 kernel 1131147834 M * michal_ duno. just got those ;] 1131147844 M * Bertl why not 2.6.14 kernel?*G* 1131147881 M * michal_ i'll upgrade when i will have something working ;] 1131147957 M * Bertl yeah, jsut kidding :) 1131147973 M * michal_ is there any code for 2.6.14 yet ? 1131148028 M * Bertl sure.. 2.0.1 and 2.1.0 1131148118 M * michal_ ^^ 1131148446 Q * Exomorph Quit: Leaving 1131148461 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1131148502 M * michal_ ok 1131148515 M * michal_ what do you mean by "managed" guests on fedora ? 1131148544 M * michal_ and what kind of internal package managment are you thinking about ? (per vserver pkgs info ?) 1131148568 M * Bertl pardon? who are you talking with right now? 1131148584 M * Venomous I'm back 1131148586 M * Venomous hi all 1131148588 M * michal_ http://linux-vserver.org/VServer+installation+Fedora+Core+4 1131148594 M * michal_ point 5 1131148598 M * Bertl not mine, no idea :) 1131148610 M * michal_ (great doc btw :) 1131148621 M * Bertl still not mine :) 1131148707 M * michal_ anyway i got... 1131148707 M * michal_ pkgcfgbase-dir '/vservers/.pkg' does not exist or is invalid 1131148707 M * michal_ rm -rf 1131148716 M * michal_ during vserver ... build .... 1131148724 M * michal_ what is that dir about ?