1130371664 Q * Sonarman Read error: Connection reset by peer 1130371724 Q * Exomorph Quit: Leaving 1130371960 Q * stefani Quit: I Quit! 1130373035 M * davidsmind anyone? 1130373317 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@71.141.175.13 1130373350 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk 1130374802 M * Lunar^ Patch available for syscall# detection at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328209 1130378021 Q * fwiffo Quit: leaving 1130378203 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1130383493 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-229.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1130383776 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130383921 Q * cereal Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130383961 Q * SNy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130384040 J * cereal koepi@217.20.124.153 1130384155 J * SNy 1cf2018da2@bmx-chemnitz.de 1130385465 Q * SNy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130385484 Q * cereal Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130385858 J * cereal koepi@217.20.124.153 1130386130 J * SNy 992a5ceca4@bmx-chemnitz.de 1130386203 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow) 1130390013 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax7-019.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1130390371 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130390798 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-051.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1130390943 M * AndrewLe1 Lunar^: Thanks for you patch, I am going to give it a try. :) 1130391020 M * AndrewLe1 Lunar^: I found the util-vserver in sarge is unuseable cause wrong syscall as well. 1130391076 M * AndrewLe1 Lunar^: Should we keep the bug found in the oldest version? 1130391114 N * AndrewLe1 AndrewLee 1130391154 Q * Aiken__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130391203 M * AndrewLee Question: Does't new-style care about the VSERVERROOT folder's permission? 1130391261 M * AndrewLee I found correctly util-vserver in sid doesn't set the folder permission to 0000 and without set a chattr +t 1130391264 M * AndrewLee ls -lda /var/lib/vservers/ 1130391264 M * AndrewLee drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-10-27 12:05 /var/lib/vservers/ 1130391269 M * AndrewLee lsattr -d /var/lib/vservers/ 1130391269 M * AndrewLee ----------------- /var/lib/vservers/ 1130391279 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130391304 M * AndrewLee But barrier set seems ok: 1130391310 M * AndrewLee showattr -d /var/lib/vservers/ 1130391311 M * AndrewLee ---Bui- /var/lib/vservers/ 1130393740 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130394072 Q * NikDaPhreak Quit: Hybernating my brain.... 1130396959 Q * Hunger Read error: Connection reset by peer 1130396997 J * Hunger ego@213.163.11.138 1130398402 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1130398834 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.42 1130399610 Q * Millox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130400183 J * Millox ~mattias@shienar.csbnet.se 1130400289 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.193.162.69 1130400302 M * NikDaPhreak hi all 1130400380 J * prae ~prae@84.14.106.134 1130404790 M * daniel_hozac AndrewLee: vserver 2.0 doesn't use chattr +t/chmod 0000. 1130405415 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.48.200.121 1130405491 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: thanks. 1130405522 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: How about in vserver 1.9.5.3? 1130405547 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-198.lhi.is 1130405623 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1130405721 M * daniel_hozac AndrewLee: i think all patches for 2.6 have implemented the barrier as a flag. 1130405737 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: Thanks. 1130405781 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.48.200.121 1130407430 J * gudi ~maurer@p54A78C34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1130407431 M * gudi hi 1130407442 M * gudi what cap i need to build a pem on a vserver ? 1130407502 M * daniel_hozac what's a pem? 1130407553 M * gudi cd ..a certificate 1130407733 M * daniel_hozac umm, that doesn't require any capability. 1130407820 M * gudi hmm can not get it to work 1130407839 M * daniel_hozac error being? 1130407858 M * gudi - Generating 1024 bits RSA private key... operation is not possible without initialized secure memory 1130408015 M * daniel_hozac and strace says what? 1130408198 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130408428 M * gudi daniel_hozac, http://pastebin.com/407619 1130408779 J * Johnnie ~john@24.154.53.217 1130409793 M * Lunar^ AndrewLee: the patch is more for the next package, really 1130409833 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: What do you mean? 1130409841 M * gudi daniel_hozac, any idea ? 1130409855 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: The patch doesn't work for util-vserver in sarge. 1130409906 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: util-vserver in sarge still unuseable 1130410025 M * Lunar^ AndrewLee: I will have a look 1130410037 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: Thank you very much. :) 1130410467 M * Lunar^ AndrewLee: the patch should be easy to port to the old verion 1130410469 M * Lunar^ version 1130411199 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1130411667 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk 1130412089 M * Bertl_ILL morning folks! 1130412126 M * Bertl_ILL gudi: looks like your tools need locked memory ... 1130412280 M * Bertl_ILL davidsmind: did you compile with dietlibc? please upload the output of 'testme.sh' and 'vserver-info - SYSINFO'! 1130412380 M * Bertl_ILL Lunar^: IIRC we already fixed the debian syscall bug :) 1130412472 M * Bertl_ILL ag-, NikDaPhreak, @all: let me know when we shall do a second ngnet talk :) 1130412585 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: how? 1130412694 M * Bertl_ILL it should be in fix03 (for util vserver) 1130412710 M * Bertl_ILL Lunar^: give me a second to check it/find it ... 1130412747 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: does fix03 actually changes the configure script? 1130412767 M * Bertl_ILL http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-0.30.208-fix02-fix03.diff 1130412857 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: I can't see how this patch fixes syscall# detection 1130412864 M * Bertl_ILL try it! 1130412873 M * NikDaPhreak Bertl_ILL: I;ll be available in 10-20 minutes 1130412989 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: I would like an explaination, but if you don't have the time... 1130413021 M * Bertl_ILL sure, but I'm not 100% positive it fixes your issue ... as I said, I think it fixes it ... 1130413088 M * Bertl_ILL Lunar^: the issue fixed here is that the configure script decides to use the 'wrong' syscall implementation (i.e. not the alternate one, which would get the syscall number right) 1130413134 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: the configure script still output the wrong number 1130413168 M * Lunar^ #define ENSC_SYSCALL__NR_vserver 273 1130413173 M * Lunar^ should be 257 1130413187 M * Bertl_ILL show me your ./configure line plz 1130413199 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: I just did ./configure :) 1130413211 M * Bertl_ILL on what arch? 1130413223 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: powerpc 1130413251 M * Bertl_ILL well, it works fine on my powerpc notebook with the vanilla tools 1130413271 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: sure, if you build them with a patched kernel 1130413288 M * ag- Bertl_ILL: i setup yesterday 1130413307 M * Bertl_ILL Lunar^: okay, let me try without a patched kernel ... 1130413335 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: problem is: Debian package are built on boxes which have standard Debian kernel, so the syscall# detection must not rely on kernel headers 1130413360 M * Bertl_ILL yep, same is true for cross building 1130413400 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: last time we've discussed this issue, you did point to me the vserver.h sitting somewhere in your web-area 1130413474 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: binaries generated after appliying your patch use syscall 273 (which is wrong here) 1130413483 Q * Greek0 Quit: leaving 1130413498 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130413615 M * Bertl_ILL Lunar^: will take a little until a non vserver kernel is compiled :) 1130413637 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: I need to go.. I'll stay on the channel until we've figured out :) 1130413647 M * Bertl_ILL k 1130413841 M * Bertl_ILL Vudumen: no moon no fun ... :( 1130413995 M * daniel_hozac what is moon? x86_64? 1130413999 M * Bertl_ILL yep 1130414005 M * NikDaPhreak Bertl_ILL: ok, I'm available 1130414007 A * SiD3WiNDR moons #vserver 1130414383 J * sebi ~sebi@Fce24.f.strato-dslnet.de 1130414390 M * Bertl_ILL welcome sebi! 1130414485 Q * sebi_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130414508 M * Bertl_ILL okay, regarding ngnet, it would be nice to consolidate/combine the following pages: 1130414516 M * Bertl_ILL http://linux-vserver.org/ToDo+List+NGNet 1130414525 M * Bertl_ILL http://linux-vserver.org/NGNET-Testing-HOWTO 1130414608 M * Bertl_ILL ag-: btw, nice work with the new page 1130414788 M * ag- Bertl_ILL: i wasn't aware of the ToDo page :) 1130414820 M * NikDaPhreak Bertl_ILL : I'm not a programmer and might talk inpossible stuff, but have you taught of virtualizing based on VLANs? I mean XID tagged VLAN, built e.g. with macvlan_config would not need a lot of patching for the other tools (userspace iptables, iproute ect.) 1130414877 M * Bertl_ILL would not work and/or complicate issues ... 1130414904 M * Bertl_ILL you can (with the planned solution) have vlan interfaces inside guests, and it will work quite fine 1130414922 M * NikDaPhreak Bertl_ILL: ok, reasonable argument :-) 1130414936 M * Bertl_ILL NikDaPhreak: the problem is not the tagging or virtualization (to explain it) the problem is the network stack isolation 1130414972 M * Bertl_ILL NikDaPhreak: if we do not do the isolation there, we can stay with the current solution, which is the fastest anyway 1130414994 M * Bertl_ILL (feel free to use vlans right now, many provider do so) 1130415241 Q * Greek0 Quit: leaving 1130415269 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130415332 M * NikDaPhreak hmmm.. ok, my idea was is it possible to use vlan tagging as a way to "tag" XIDs, not to directly use vlans. And that's why i mentioned mca-based VLANs, not tagged ones. 1130415365 M * Bertl_ILL NikDaPhreak: okay, let's assume we do that, what would it buy us? 1130415471 M * NikDaPhreak you do not need patched iptables whatever and you might allow such a virtualized vlan to be configured and used with standard user space tools from within rthe vserver 1130415496 M * Bertl_ILL we do not need patched iptables anylonger :) 1130415504 M * NikDaPhreak Bertl_ILL btw i might take a look how it works in virtuozzo first ;-) 1130415566 M * NikDaPhreak that's nice :-) as I said - /me not a programmer & /me assumed, VLAN = kind of isolation, wich might be not that hard to manipulate for the needed pourpose.... 1130415584 M * Bertl_ILL no, actually vlans complicate stuff for several reasons 1130415599 M * Bertl_ILL a) there is again a max of 255 vlans 1130415615 M * Bertl_ILL b) vlans add tagging information at different layers 1130415630 M * Bertl_ILL c) you would lose some of the vlan functionality on host and guest 1130415690 M * NikDaPhreak ok, sounds much more complicated, than I taught... 1130415977 M * brc_ BERTL 1130416324 M * Bertl_ILL brc_: yup? 1130416672 Q * NikDaPhreak Quit: BRB 1130416732 J * NikDaPhreak ~NikDaPhre@193.193.162.69 1130417080 M * brc_ Bertl_ILL: I am using 2.6.11.3-vs1.9.3 on my server and it is really stable. Should i keep using it on a new server or you think it would be better to use a newer kerenl with vs 2.0 ? 1130417121 M * Bertl_ILL well, if it is stable and you don't mind the bugs we fixed since, why not? 1130417568 M * brc_ since you are a kernel expert, your opinio is really important to me, do you think i might get crashes with the newer 2.6 versions as it used to happen with the old ones? 1130417607 M * Bertl_ILL no idea, we are constantly trying to improve the patches, so I still assume, newer version, less bugs :) 1130417679 M * brc_ heheh ok thanks a lot 1130417705 M * Bertl_ILL you're welcome! 1130417953 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1130417960 M * Bertl_ILL welcome neofutur! 1130417991 Q * neofutur_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130418400 M * Bertl_ILL Lunar^: something like this should fix it, but as the name says, it's a hack ... http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-0.30.208-fix03-fix04-hack.diff 1130418690 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130419309 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1130421903 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: that was mostly what I had done in my patch 1130422004 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: yours is a bit less intrusive, tohugh 1130422005 M * Lunar^ though 1130422285 M * Bertl_ILL yeah, well, didn't see it before .. but maybe you can work out a nice solution (by combining the approaches) 1130422980 M * Lunar^ Bertl_ILL: my patch mostly replaced m4/ensc_syscallnr.m4 with a simpler version only using the vserver.h to detect syscall# 1130423066 J * defectivelogic ~bk@68-116-172-85.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com 1130423085 M * Bertl_ILL welcome defectivelogic! 1130423108 M * defectivelogic thanks. greetings to all. 1130423880 M * gdm hello 1130424099 M * Bertl_ILL okay, off now .. back later ... 1130424999 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: Maybe Bertl's hack can work on sarge's util-vserver. :) 1130425338 Q * Greek0 Quit: leaving 1130425521 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130425830 Q * Greek0 Quit: leaving 1130426001 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130426265 Q * eugenesan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130426613 J * Greek0_ ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130426722 Q * Greek0_ Quit: 1130426765 Q * Greek0 Quit: leaving 1130426778 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130426840 J * alpha ~Miranda@83.215.237.5 1130426866 J * Greek0_ ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130426892 N * alpha Guest39 1130426927 Q * Guest39 Quit: 1130426943 M * Greek0_ sorry for the frequent reconnects and the clone. I have pretty bad irssi problems and I'm trying to fix them 1130426994 J * Exomorph ~Greg@216.251.129.6 1130427163 Q * Greek0 Quit: leaving 1130427275 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130427353 J * Sonarman_ ~cleetus@adsl-71-141-113-207.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net 1130427715 Q * Sonarman Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130427986 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130428508 Q * Greek0 Quit: leaving 1130428521 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1130429005 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1130429368 Q * gudi Quit: Verlassend 1130429932 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1130430923 J * Exomorph_ ~Greg@216.251.129.6 1130431355 Q * Exomorph Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130431451 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1130431749 M * Lunar^ AndrewLee: what I did work on the sarge version too, you just need to backport the patch 1130431829 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: You tested it on sarge? 1130431880 M * Lunar^ AndrewLee: I looked at the sarge package, and the same modification would correct the same bug 1130431901 M * Lunar^ AndrewLee: but the patch doesn't apply directly, you need to backport the changes 1130431913 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: I got FTBFS 1130431917 P * defectivelogic 1130431944 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: I modified as same as you did in your patch my hand, but FTBFS 1130432046 M * Lunar^ ok 1130432056 M * Lunar^ strange 1130432087 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: I will try Bertl's hack tomorrow to see if it work or not. 1130432102 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: I will report this tomorrow. 1130432122 M * AndrewLee Lunar^: Time for me to go to bed. 1130433145 Q * iprone Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130433148 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1130433595 Q * lilo_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130433931 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1130434500 Q * shedi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1130434641 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1130437970 J * iprone ~iprone@65.83.231.99 1130438422 J * viper0482 ~viper@p549774ED.dip.t-dialin.net 1130438466 Q * viper0482 Quit: 1130439030 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130439235 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1130439641 Q * neofutur Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130440536 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1130441454 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1130441608 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1130443513 N * michal_ michal 1130443536 N * michal Guest44 1130443545 N * Guest44 michal_ 1130443774 M * matti Bertl_ILL: Here dude? 1130443799 M * michal_ m a t t i 1130443811 M * michal_ m a t t i 1130443814 M * michal_ you bastard ;p 1130443937 M * matti Yeah. 1130443941 M * matti :) 1130443948 M * matti I know, ya love me. 1130443952 M * matti I love ya too. 1130443952 M * matti ;] 1130443969 M * matti BTW, I've killed deneb right at the moment :) 1130444045 M * michal_ not a problem for me ;] 1130444068 M * michal_ my connection with deneb is kinda limited ;] 1130444075 M * michal_ deneb ltd ;p 1130444078 J * mrec_ ~revenger@p54B03322.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1130444485 Q * mrec Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130444921 M * brc_ what is the split patch about ? 1130444939 M * brc_ just found it. 1130444942 M * brc_ t:) 1130445069 M * mnemoc makes easier to understand how the 'whole' works, and makes easier to port the patch to other versions 1130445256 M * brc_ patched 2.6.13.4 with patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0.diff .. i had to skeep macSOMETHING.c and got lot of failing. do you think i might have problems ? 1130445436 J * romke ~romke@procyon.romke.net 1130445518 M * mnemoc if something fail to apply, you have to adapt it to the new version. _never_ skip 1130446072 J * fesg263 scot@host81-132-214-209.range81-132.btcentralplus.com 1130446074 P * fesg263 1130446102 M * brc_ h 1130446102 M * brc_ hm 1130446113 M * brc_ better to use 2.6.12.4 then ? 1130446130 J * ZeekL Zeek@dpc6714235066.direcpc.com 1130446136 M * mnemoc or 2.0.1-pre2 patch 1130446157 M * brc_ would that be stable (2.0.1-pre2) ? 1130446165 M * mnemoc yes 1130446176 M * mnemoc 2.1 is devel branch 1130446176 M * brc_ ok thanks a lot :) 1130446181 M * mnemoc :) 1130446277 M * ZeekL Heyas, a Xen question. My DomU hangs during boot at "Initializing IPsec netlink socket" from a FC4 image. I had this before and solved it with an 'extra' parameter but cannot remember what it was...anyone have wild guesses what it could be? 1130446335 M * ZeekL I thought it was either module related or power management related, but this is after a week away from it.... 1130446469 M * brc_ mnemoc: do you knmow where i can get it? Cuoldn't find it on linux-vserver.org 1130446516 M * mnemoc http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.13-vs2.0.1-pre2.diff.bz2 1130446577 M * brc_ thanks agai 1130446579 M * brc_ n 1130446650 M * mnemoc np 1130446870 M * brc_ patching file fs/jfs/inode.c 1130446870 M * brc_ Hunk #2 FAILED at 144. 1130446870 M * brc_ 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file fs/jfs/inode.c.rej 1130446872 M * brc_ ---- 1130446876 M * brc_ problem ? 1130446890 M * brc_ should i ignore this ? Just this HUNK failed 1130446992 Q * ZeekL Quit: 1130447169 M * mnemoc take a look into fs/jfs/inode.c.rej and make that change by hand on fs/jfs/inode.c 1130447433 M * brc_ ok 1130447596 M * brc_ would yuo mind if is paste it here ? 1130447600 M * brc_ 10 lines 1130447617 M * mnemoc pastebin.com 1130447680 M * brc_ http://pastebin.com/408252 1130447693 M * brc_ would it be a matter of just adding the DLIMIT_FREE_INODE(inode); 1130447696 M * brc_ on inode.c ? 1130447702 M * brc_ on the respective line of course 1130447814 M * mnemoc yes 1130447819 M * brc_ ok thanks again :) 1130447823 M * mnemoc :) 1130448530 Q * neofutur Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130449228 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1130450430 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-093.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1130452666 Q * iprone Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130453213 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow) 1130453243 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-35-175.bulldogdsl.com 1130453653 J * Mousie_ke ~mousie_ke@ACD53534.ipt.aol.com 1130453655 P * Mousie_ke 1130453659 J * Mousie_ke ~mousie_ke@ACD53534.ipt.aol.com 1130453668 M * Mousie_ke Hey 1130453677 P * Mousie_ke 1130454102 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1130454766 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@adsl-71-141-123-13.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net 1130455175 Q * Sonarman_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130455482 Q * Exomorph_ Quit: Leaving 1130455520 J * iprone ~iprone@adsl-065-012-167-027.sip.asm.bellsouth.net 1130455855 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1130456065 Q * gdm Ping timeout: 480 seconds