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1130136634 J * gudi ~maurer@nm.it-mn.de
1130136636 M * gudi hi
1130136642 M * daniel_hozac hello
1130136707 M * gudi is it true that i can running diffrent dists in myy debian server which hold the vservers ?
1130136748 M * gudi so i can have some debian vservers and some netbsd and redhat ?
1130136749 M * daniel_hozac yes, the distribution of the guests doesn't matter.
1130136763 M * gudi how can i install some other dists ? 
1130136765 M * daniel_hozac umm, NetBSD isn't Linux.
1130136780 M * gudi so unix not working 
1130136903 M * daniel_hozac the easiest way to install guests with a distribution different from the host's is probably to use an image/tarball.
1130136934 M * gudi ok.. i will search a gentoo
1130140670 J * Nik_ ~Nik@217.75.141.95
1130140672 M * Nik_ hi all
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1130144112 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio397.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1130144130 M * Milf Good morning
1130144179 M * Milf can anyone help me? I've got problems with wget inseide a SUSE 9.3 vserver
1130144208 M * Milf I get 'Address family not supported by protocol' when trying to access anything
1130145004 J * kgnet kgnet@213-192-114-131.softlab.gda.pl
1130145034 P * kgnet 
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1130153938 M * Milf anyone awake?
1130153948 M * Milf or has lunch been too good to you?
1130153969 M * gudi im here
1130153979 M * Bertl_ILL Milf: d do you ahve ipv6 enabled (in the kernel)?
1130154114 J * iprone ~iprone@65.83.231.99
1130154158 M * Bertl_ILL wb iprone!
1130154471 M * Milf No, there is no ipv6 in the kernel.
1130154799 J * viyyer ~viv@59.176.14.151
1130155074 M * Bertl_ILL welcome viyyer!
1130155091 M * Bertl_ILL Milf: hmm, could you upload the output of strace -fF wget ...
1130155094 M * viyyer ty Bertl_ILL 
1130155159 J * sebi ~sebi@Fd3a0.f.strato-dslnet.de
1130155217 M * Bertl_ILL welcome sebi!
1130155260 Q * sebi_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1130155627 M * Milf bertl: As soon as everyone gets out of my face, I'll get to it :|
1130155664 M * Bertl_ILL Milf: k, no problem :)
1130156376 M * Milf . o O ( strace! why didn't I think of that? )
1130156471 M * Bertl_ILL probably because it's too obvious :)
1130156993 M * Bertl_ILL iprone: one of the guys @ planetlab (mef) did some comparison between xen and vserver ...
1130157044 M * Bertl_ILL and because he had some 'stange' results, I'm currently doing a comparison between vanilla kernel and recent vserver ...
1130157090 M * Bertl_ILL iprone: (basically lmbench 2+3) in 3 setups (vanilla, vserver-host, vserver-guest) ...
1130157177 M * iprone Bertl, were the results ever posted or just discussed within the group
1130157313 M * Bertl_ILL I don't think he posted them yet, as he is writing a paper about that (IIRC)
1130157341 M * daniel_hozac wasn't the paper deadline a few days ago?
1130157361 M * Bertl_ILL yes, guess that was friday or so?
1130157447 M * daniel_hozac 2005-10-15 20:49:13 <mef>       I have a paper deadline 8pm my time this Tuesday by which time everything needs to be done.
1130157499 M * Bertl_ILL so that was last tuesday ... time goes by so fast ...
1130157504 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1130157545 M * Bertl_ILL btw, anybody interested in working through the lmbench results?
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1130157579 M * Bertl_ILL I have all test results, but we have to do some averaging and std deviation and such ...
1130157675 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1130157763 M * Bertl_ILL okay, give me aminute to upload the data, and how far I got by now ..
1130157936 M * iprone daniel, if you want to send me the raw data you end up getting with the results you pump out, i can go over and second them if you want
1130157947 M * iprone id be interested to see what the results are 
1130157971 M * Bertl_ILL I'll upload the data publically, so no problem there
1130157995 M * Bertl_ILL I hope it will help to identify possible issues ...
1130158139 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.48.200.121
1130158608 M * Bertl_ILL http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/LMBENCH/
1130158625 M * Bertl_ILL I'll explain the test setup and the purpose of the files ...
1130158656 M * Bertl_ILL first, the tests were done in a silent environment, no cron, no other apps
1130158700 M * Bertl_ILL the tests are started from rc.local on bootup and the test script is lmbench.sh
1130158750 M * Bertl_ILL test were done with 'just' script.exp for host tests, chbind+chcontext tests and chcontext only tests
1130158796 M * Bertl_ILL 60 seconds + sync between lmbench3 and lmbench2, five runs after each reboot
1130158832 M * Bertl_ILL (you can see the file/kernel/boot sequence in timing.info)
1130158880 M * Bertl_ILL not sure if I got all files right, will check once again now ...
1130158917 M * Bertl_ILL the test results are in lmb{2,3}r.tbz and the err/log output in errout ...
1130159005 M * Bertl_ILL no, the timing is wrong, will fix that now ... sec
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1130159704 M * Bertl_ILL daniel_hozac, iprone: okay, the timing.info is now correct
1130159714 M * Bertl_ILL * marks a bad/interrupted run ...
1130159754 M * Bertl_ILL (the chbind+chcontext old does not need to be evaluated, was just a test)
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1130160364 M * Bertl_ILL Nik_: ping!
1130160413 M * daniel_hozac how far did you get?
1130160438 M * Bertl_ILL well, I have a gawk script here, which picks out the obvious values ...
1130160454 M * Bertl_ILL (i.e. the a:b type values)
1130160464 M * daniel_hozac right.
1130160475 M * Bertl_ILL not sure it is too useful ...
1130160487 M * Bertl_ILL (but I'll upload it, sec)
1130160571 M * Bertl_ILL http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/LMBENCH/lmbench3.gawk
1130160645 M * Bertl_ILL not much else was done yet ...
1130160654 M * daniel_hozac ok.
1130160730 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: pong ;-)
1130160810 M * iprone hey if it makes anyone feel better today, im just looking at our production systems...we still have a few vs1.26 servers with hosting customers on them...been chugging along quite nicely actually
1130160815 M * Bertl_ILL Nik_: ah, I'm investigating your feature request, regarding 'virtual' visibility, are you going to test that?
1130160842 M * iprone looks like thats when we stopped upgrading cause i cant find any older/newer :)
1130160851 M * Bertl_ILL iprone: good to hear! thanks for the feedback!
1130160915 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: will e my peasure, but it can happen after 1900CET... I'm stuck in a routing sh** atm 
1130160961 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: s/will\ e/will\ be/ ;-)
1130161038 M * Bertl_ILL no probelm, just wanted to know if _somebody_ is going to test it :)
1130161113 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: as I requested it, I'll be using it, so I will also test it :-)
1130161263 M * Bertl_ILL excellent, let me know when you've got some time ...
1130161432 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: ok :-)
1130161487 M * Bertl_ILL iprone: btw, we'd appreciate testing (and 3rd party comparisons) of linux-vserver with other technologies, and we are always interested in improving performance ...
1130161577 M * iprone yeah im starting to think thats the appropriate approach...and i cant really shaft the technology ive used primarily up until a year ago when my previous company went the virtuozzo route
1130161608 M * iprone i think openvz is appealing just from the standpoint that a monkey can install it and generally run it without too much hastle
1130161748 M * Bertl_ILL guess that's also true for linux-vserver, although the fine-tuning might require a certain int :)
1130161794 M * Bertl_ILL but as usual, we are open for many things, and always appreciate input ...
1130161824 M * iprone bertl, true true, i mean realize too im a bit outdated...ive tested the 2.0 vserver a bit inhouse, but in terms of extensive use, we were using it back in the days when you had to lock yourself into a room and hold all calls to get vserver to a good operational point
1130161878 M * Bertl_ILL btw, also combinations would be very interesting to test: e.g. linux-vserver on xen or uml ...
1130161943 M * iprone haha...we should just start a virtualization repository project where we independently do performance, feature, etc comparisons
1130161964 M * iprone i bet if you wanted, you could spend your whole life just looking at performance
1130161997 M * Bertl_ILL very likely :) 
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1130163746 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77
1130164281 M * Milf Oh man, I tell ya: voiding harddisks with a power drill is hard work
1130164323 M * erwan_taf did it crash yours ?
1130164356 M * Milf We're throwing out hardware and are conscious about the data, so I have to drill through each harddisk to render it unsuable
1130164406 M * Milf I hope if I use a smaller drillbit, it will get easier.
1130164532 M * Bertl_ILL hmm, what about the good old, burn it in the oven approach?
1130164549 M * Milf Hmmm, we don't have an oven here.
1130164572 M * Milf I was thinking of going to the fire department. They've got tools to shear through cars...
1130164597 M * Bertl_ILL termite erase procedure :)
1130164628 M * Milf Hmmm, power 'em up, let em spin and blow some iron filings through the vent hole.
1130164692 M * Milf I read a stroy once how they erased their harddisks in a hospital.
1130164735 M * Bertl_ILL btw, I mean *thermite (not the cute littel animals, who eat your house :)
1130164750 M * Milf Simply load the disks on a cart and bring them down to the magnetic resonance tomograph
1130164775 M * Bertl_ILL yeah, but MRT folks won't be too happy about that, I guess
1130164782 M * Milf ... worked well until someone was too careless to leave the disk in the case.
1130164802 M * Milf The case got stuck in the machine and they had to shut it down.
1130164810 M * Milf They got a bulk eraser the next day.
1130164834 M * Milf Yep the MRT guys weren't happy :)
1130165147 M * Milf Gotta go. cya
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1130175388 J * Nik_ ~Nik@soflan.net
1130175393 M * Nik_ hi all
1130176133 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: ping
1130176707 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
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1130177520 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1130177520 J * Nik_ ~Nik@soflan.net
1130177520 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1130177520 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1130177520 J * kaRma0 ~coeurl@adsl-68-89-14-73.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net
1130177520 J * sebi ~sebi@Fd3a0.f.strato-dslnet.de
1130177520 J * Millox ~mattias@shienar.csbnet.se
1130177520 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1130177520 J * mrec_ ~revenger@p54B00620.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1130177520 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1130177520 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1130177520 J * michal_ ~michal@mprivacy-update.de
1130177520 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1130177520 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1130177520 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1130177520 J * Pazzo ~thomas@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it
1130177520 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@71.141.137.103
1130177520 J * cryo ~say@212.86.233.146
1130177520 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1130177520 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1130177520 J * AndrewLe1 ~andrew@tnlug.linux.org.tw
1130177520 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com
1130177520 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1130177520 J * derbien ~derbien@whiterabbit.nbmc.de
1130177520 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu
1130177520 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1130177520 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1130177520 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1130177520 J * stupidawy foo@198.77.239.131
1130177520 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net
1130177520 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1130177520 J * jkl eric@c-67-173-249-8.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1130177520 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de
1130177520 J * Bertl_ILL herbert@212.16.62.52
1130177520 J * click click@ti511110a080-4596.bb.online.no
1130177520 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1130177520 J * ag-2 ag@muaddib.roxor.cx
1130177520 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@213.163.11.138
1130177520 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1130177520 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1130177520 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1130177520 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
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1130180329 J * patulon ~patulon@host190.201-252-10.telecom.net.ar
1130180339 M * patulon Hello !
1130180652 M * patulon Hi, I need to know if its posible to use standard quotas inside a vserver... I mean, I just need to mount / with usrquota,grpquota option..
1130181428 M * Nik_ patulon: yes, but you will need a separate partition to be mounted on /vservers
1130181536 M * patulon Oh, actually I have a md0 device mounted on /home/vservers... look:
1130181550 M * Nik_ patulon: http://linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits
1130181620 M * patulon oh... thanks but that is not what I need, In fact I already have per-context quotas...
1130181680 M * Nik_ patulon: i'm quite sure, the quotas within the vservers are also working, i just can't find the link...
1130181689 M * patulon What I need is to give the posibility to a vserver of running standard linux usrquotas inside the vserver... I mean, not vserver quotas, but user quotas
1130181713 M * Nik_ patulon: i got the point :-)
1130181723 M * patulon oh... ok, thank you very much
1130181753 M * patulon do I need a special patch for that ?
1130182149 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk
1130184136 J * iprone ~iprone@lawn-199-77-210-98.lawn.gatech.edu
1130184556 M * Nik_ patulon: ok, found it: http://linux-vserver.org/Standard+non-shared+quota
1130184887 J * mrec ~revenger@p54B01AE2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
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1130186002 M * patulon ok, thank you very very much !!!!!
1130186029 J * oliwel ~mail-at-o@host-62-245-151-178.customer.m-online.net
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1130186185 M * Bertl_ILL Nik_: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-virt-feat01.diff
1130186227 M * matti Bertl_ILL: You're also ill? :<
1130186235 M * Bertl_ILL Nik_: just make the virtual/virtnet entry visible via setattr (or defaults) and each context will see his data ...
1130186242 M * Bertl_ILL matti: yes, unfortunately ...
1130186249 M * matti Bertl_ILL: :<
1130186259 M * Bertl_ILL Nik_: there will be a flag to control this in the future ...
1130186274 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: ok, I'll check it in a moment :-)
1130186277 M * Bertl_ILL off again ... back later ...
1130187544 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: the patch is working for me :-) 10x
1130187571 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: found some incorrect info on http://linux-vserver.org/Standard+non-shared+quota 
1130187585 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: - Step2: Add the quota capability to the guest vserver:
1130187622 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: should read: Add CAP_QUOTACTL to /etc/vservers/<name>/bcapabilities
1130187631 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer
1130187657 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: at least that's the way it worked with 2.6.13.3-vs2.1.0-rc4.1
1130187701 J * Johnnie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1130187962 M * Nik_ Bertl_ILL: and maybe a side note - on slackware (host and guest) i had to explicitely specify -F vfsv0 to run quotacheck for the first time
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1130191151 M * patulon Hi, when I try Add CAP_QUOTACTL ... thist happens:
1130191155 M * patulon Unknown bcap 'CAP_QUOTACTL'
1130191160 M * patulon Failed to start vserver 'vs02'
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1130192673 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1130193580 J * Aiken ~james@tooax7-079.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1130195891 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
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1130198028 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@71.141.160.79