1129334536 N * mrec_ mrec
1129334971 M * mnemoc mrec: your problem looks like a nodev
1129335695 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1129336626 J * sstarlein ~starlein@p54BD7FC9.dip.t-dialin.net
1129336749 M * sstarlein hi all. i don't get uptime virtualization working and read too much, but --flag ^17 doesnt work.
1129336769 M * sstarlein on a 2.6.12.6-vs2.0stable
1129336798 M * sstarlein is there any clue
1129336830 M * sstarlein # chcontext --ctx 101 --secure --flag ^17 bash -c "sleep 1; uptime"
1129336830 M * sstarlein  02:39:47 up 1 day, 19:42,  1 user,  load average: 0.06, 0.11, 0.14
1129337142 M * sstarlein i guess there is any setting missing on host /proc 
1129338145 J * mrec_ ~revenger@p54B04311.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1129338565 Q * mrec Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1129340030 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-143.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1129342324 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc::
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1129342577 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1129343076 M * FireEgl =)
1129343168 Q * tchan Quit: WeeChat 0.1.6-cvs
1129343470 Q * RoT Quit: Leaving
1129343678 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
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1129344677 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-84-9-32-78.bulldogdsl.com
1129344689 M * jayeola hey chaps
1129344706 M * daniel_hozac hello
1129344761 M * jayeola um, i'm preparing a host for vservers. one should bind services like ssh and apache to a single ip right?
1129344799 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1129344811 M * jayeola question is, is it ok to bind ssh to an ip shown to me by `/sbin/ifconfig/`
1129344831 M * jayeola or can i do that by a device like eth0?
1129344853 M * daniel_hozac i don't think sshd supports interface names.
1129344860 M * jayeola -nodding-
1129345606 M * mnemoc jayeola: use 'ip' from iproute2
1129345621 M * jayeola hrm... looking , groking
1129345664 M * mnemoc but yes, bind sshd and apache to the ip your context has assigned
1129345669 M * mnemoc instead of 0.0.0.0
1129346221 Q * sstarlein Read error: Connection reset by peer
1129346449 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1129347242 J * andrew_ ~andrew@linux3.cc.ntu.edu.tw
1129347541 M * jayeola vservers are normally created with a static ip, how about boxen that have dynamic ips from thier isp?
1129347767 M * mnemoc NAT?
1129347776 M * mnemoc brb
1129348755 Q * meebey Remote host closed the connection
1129349064 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1129352873 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow)
1129354360 Q * ntrs Remote host closed the connection
1129358380 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax6-165.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1129360383 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oW
1129360703 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A04A0C.dip.t-dialin.net
1129360725 M * coocoon hello
1129360782 Q * coocoon Quit: 
1129360842 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A04A0C.dip.t-dialin.net
1129360915 M * coocoon hello is anyone there
1129361800 M * chwi daniel_hozac yes it works when i snat to my external ip :)
1129361801 M * chwi thks
1129362632 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1129363037 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc::
1129363283 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1129363821 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1129364976 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc::
1129365192 M * FireEgl vserver doesn't support ipv6, right? =/
1129365830 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A04A0C.dip.t-dialin.net
1129367182 M * SiD3WiNDR FireEgl: with ngnet it should but that's still experimental
1129368375 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1129369821 Q * flock Quit: Expert, n.:  Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.
1129369852 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1129370058 Q * michal Remote host closed the connection
1129370733 M * coocoon hello trying to install suse9.3 vserver with apt-rpm command  on FC3 patched kernel 2.6.12.5 and util-vswerver-0.30.208, all works fine after configuring the ../pkgs/01 file und /etc/vservers/.distribution/suse93
1129370810 M * coocoon after downloading i got error message E: underprocesss /usr/lib/util-vserver/vrpm-preload errorcode (246)
1129370859 M * coocoon error: %post(isapnp-1.26-492.i586) scriptlet failed, exit status 1
1129370882 M * coocoon error: %post(nscd-2.3.4-23.2.i586) scriptlet failed, exit status 1
1129370905 M * coocoon errorr: %post(procps-3.2.5-3.i586) scriptlet failed, exit status 1
1129370922 M * coocoon does anyone know what happenend and what i must do to solve this
1129371257 M * coocoon after entering the vserver i got following message 'vserver ... suexec' is supported for running vservers only; aborting...
1129373525 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.101
1129373635 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1129373636 N * menomc mnemoc
1129375245 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-18-28.dclient.hispeed.ch
1129375345 M * romke 3460141287 bytes transferred in 4192 seconds (806.0K/s)
1129375353 M * romke oops, sorry
1129375862 J * click click@ti511110a080-4596.bb.online.no
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1129377447 J * sebi ~sebi@Fd45e.f.strato-dslnet.de
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1129378341 J * chwi ~chwi@212.68.193.213
1129379288 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1129380849 J * bragon ~bragon@god.geeknode.org
1129380853 M * bragon Hi all :)
1129380893 M * bragon i can't have the : man vserver-build
1129380912 M * bragon so i don't manage to debootstrap with AMD64 arch
1129380918 M * bragon i have this :
1129380919 M * bragon vserver riri build -m debootstrap --hostname riri --interface \ eth0:194.242.113.96/25 -- -d sarge           
1129380923 M * bragon I: Retrieving Release
1129380925 M * bragon E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-amd64/Packages
1129380961 M * bragon anyone for the --arch option syntaxe or a hacks to build my vserver under debian 64 ?
1129381346 N * nokoya nokoya-
1129381350 N * nokoya- nokoya
1129381410 M * bragon please does anywone have an answer ?
1129381741 J * RoT ~bob@203.59.146.87
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1129383946 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
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1129384440 N * andrew_ AndrewLee
1129385231 M * bragon ok i need the source to have man vserver-build =_=
1129386352 M * bragon W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/vserver/riri mount -t proc proc /proc
1129386352 M * bragon ./script-to-create-vserver: debootstrap failure. Cannot continue.
1129386358 M * bragon =_=
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1129387798 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
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1129389404 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1129389430 M * shuri Ola 
1129390139 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU
1129391198 J * LiquidChaos mental.iss@69-175-148-164.ontrca.adelphia.net
1129391237 P * LiquidChaos 
1129392418 Q * yungyuc Read error: Connection reset by peer
1129392433 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1129393553 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1129393708 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1129393909 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow)
1129394106 J * sven12 ~sven@GMMMCCXXXII.dsl.saunalahti.fi
1129394188 M * sven12 I am having a problem with vserver guest start
1129394191 M * sven12 vcontext: execvp("/sbin/init"): Permission denied
1129394218 M * sven12 and on the second attempt: vcontext: execvp("/sbin/init"): No such file or directory
1129394240 M * sven12 but /sbin/init exists on both guest and host
1129395214 M * shuri how did you created the vserver guest?
1129395556 M * sven12 I used vskel script
1129395587 M * sven12 and so many executable files are just hard,immutable links
1129395690 M * sven12 then I am using my own script that converts the configuration from legacy format to new one
1129396639 M * sven12 this seems to be related to trying to make multiple vserver guests to run
1129396653 M * sven12 I can start one guest with no problems at all
1129396653 M * daniel_hozac tagxid? what context owns the files?
1129396712 M * sven12 I have been using random context numbers, values are between 100-1000
1129396742 M * sven12 tagxid and context number are the same thing,right?
1129396748 M * daniel_hozac no.
1129396758 M * sven12 I see
1129396759 M * daniel_hozac tagxid is a mount option that tags files with the xid.
1129396770 M * sven12 yes
1129396777 M * daniel_hozac (so only that context can access them)
1129396790 M * sven12 but xid=context number then?
1129396795 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1129396802 M * daniel_hozac conteXt ID
1129396806 M * sven12 ok
1129396832 M * sven12 so is it ok to have these random numbers assigned as context ids?
1129396872 M * daniel_hozac well, each vserver needs to have a unique xid.
1129396872 M * sven12 I am making sure no two are the same by copying each number to file and then checking them all before adding a new one
1129396915 M * sven12 I'll paste the scripts I am using to pastebin
1129396941 M * daniel_hozac are you using tagxid on your /vservers partition?
1129397039 M * sven12 yes
1129397064 M * sven12 and defaults
1129397083 M * sven12 file system type is ext3 now
1129397258 M * sven12 quota inside the one working vserver seems to work just fine
1129397282 M * sven12 but I only can start the latest vserver guest I made
1129397299 M * sven12 http://pastebin.com/394560
1129397306 M * sven12 here is on script I am using
1129397529 M * daniel_hozac could you paste lsxid -d /vservers/<guest>/sbin{,/init}?
1129397546 M * sven12 ok
1129397572 M * sven12 would you like from the newest, working guest
1129397583 M * sven12 or from older ones that are not starting up?
1129397618 M * daniel_hozac both, preferably.
1129397636 M * sven12 ok
1129397783 Q * tchan Remote host closed the connection
1129397818 M * sven12 the working one: http://pastebin.com/394572
1129397866 M * sven12 http://pastebin.com/394575
1129397869 M * sven12 not working one
1129397930 M * daniel_hozac and 126 is teset12's xid?
1129397941 M * daniel_hozac 360 is test11's?
1129397945 M * daniel_hozac s/teset/test/
1129397980 M * daniel_hozac could you do lsxid -dn /vservers/test11/sbin/init?
1129397988 M * sven12 yes
1129397994 M * sven12 ok
1129398042 M * daniel_hozac is test11's /sbin/init hardlinked to test12's?
1129398049 M * sven12 yes,it is 126
1129398081 M * daniel_hozac all hardlinks across vservers will need to be tagged with xid 0.
1129398119 M * daniel_hozac (vunify/vhashify handles all those details for you)
1129398134 M * sven12 so vskel for some reason did not do this right?
1129398152 M * daniel_hozac i have no idea what vskel does.
1129398179 M * sven12 yes,it is pretty old script
1129398186 M * sven12 last updated 2003
1129398204 Q * yarihm Read error: Connection reset by peer
1129398206 M * sven12 http://linux-vserver.org/VSkel
1129398211 M * daniel_hozac what does vskel do that vserver - build -m skeleton doesn't?
1129398222 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-18-28.dclient.hispeed.ch
1129398228 N * Bertl_oW Bertl
1129398234 M * Bertl evening folks!
1129398235 M * daniel_hozac ah, templates, not skeletons.
1129398240 M * daniel_hozac evening Bertl!
1129398250 M * sven12 hi Bertl!
1129398291 M * sven12 well,I just stumbled into vskel before getting more familiar with that build -m command
1129398310 M * Bertl hey daniel_hozac! sven12!
1129398332 M * daniel_hozac sven12: try modifying it to do chxid --xid 0 for all the files it hardlinks betweens vservers.
1129398345 M * shuri hi Bertl !
1129398351 M * Bertl sven12: if the vskel doesn't apply anymore .. maybe contact the author?
1129398356 M * sven12 yes,I'll try that
1129398357 M * Bertl hey shuri! LTNS!
1129398360 M * shuri yes
1129398365 M * shuri back from no where:)
1129398404 M * sven12 ok,thanks for help, Daniel - i'll try again on my own now
1129398427 M * shuri Bertl, nice work for 2.0 
1129398436 M * shuri got 3 new dual xeon with 2.0 on it
1129398441 M * shuri work fine!
1129398451 M * Bertl thanks! glad it works for you :)
1129398516 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: my non-booting kernel problem seems to be related to the memory split. i reset it to 3/1, and the kernel boots again.
1129398805 J * tchan ~tchan@c-67-174-18-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1129398937 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: that's interesting ...
1129398999 M * Bertl were you able to revert the patch (from your sources)?
1129399026 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: you aren't using the mainline kernel, are you?
1129399472 M * Bertl wb tchan!
1129400321 M * mef bertl: hello
1129400337 M * mef have you ever run lmbench against vserver and compared it with a vanilla kernel?
1129400491 M * Bertl hey mef!
1129400504 M * Bertl some time back yes ... though not recently ...
1129400527 M * chwi is it possible to limit disk space available for each vservers ? By default, i see they can use all the free space of the partition they are on.
1129400550 M * Bertl chwi: yes, it's called 'Disk Limits'
1129400608 M * chwi where can I setup that ? 
1129400619 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits
1129400645 M * chwi thks
1129400663 M * Bertl it is a 'delta' based accounting inside the kernel, so for now (untill the tools catch up on that) you have to figure a start value to make it work
1129400823 M * Bertl mef: especially not since larry stopped providing snapshots :)
1129400889 M * Bertl ah, just saw they are back ... so maybe we should give them a try .. unless you already did so?
1129400942 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: no, i'm not. i'm using the Fedora kernel as my base.
1129400979 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: could you try with a vanilla kernel and just the split patch?
1129401001 M * daniel_hozac a vanilla 2.6.13.3 + 2.0.1-pre2 with the same .config works fine.
1129401022 M * Bertl would be interesting to know if we are hitting a general bug(tm) or some changes/differences in the fc sources
1129401043 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: so maybe the following combinations could provide some info:
1129401060 M * Bertl - vanilla 2.6.13.x with split patch (only)
1129401065 M * Bertl - vanilla 2.6.14.x with split patch (only)
1129401080 M * Bertl - fedora kernel with split patch (only)
1129401112 M * chwi Bertl it's a nice page, from the http://linux-vserver.org where i was supposed to click to find this page ? I looked everywhere. The doc isnt really to find :(
1129401113 M * daniel_hozac i'm going to try Fedora kernel with split only now.
1129401150 M * Bertl chwi: http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation (Documentation, Disk Limits)
1129401165 M * Bertl chwi: sorry, Howtos :)
1129401423 M * Bertl chwi: but in general, the best way is to use google (as always)
1129401473 M * Bertl just enter 'Disk Limits' ... ;)
1129401617 M * mef bertl: we ran lmbench against a vanilla 2.6.11 and a vserver built into 2.6.12-1398-FC4 kernel, and for some stupid things (like null call, null i/o, open/close, select tcp, fork proc, exec proc, sh proc) it is slower by more than I had expected.
1129401648 M * Bertl mef: what about a recent kernel?
1129401667 N * mrec_ mrec
1129401667 M * Bertl like 2.6.13.3 with and without 2.1.0 e.g.?
1129401670 M * mef We are now running lmbench against the same 2.6.12-1398-FC4 kernel w/ vserver turned off to double check that the overhead came from vserver vs. from an upgrade to .12.
1129401709 M * Bertl mef: also very important detail is with or without debugging?
1129401784 M * mef CONFIG_VSERVER_DEBUG is not set
1129401877 M * Bertl mef: okay, if you have a comparison of the same kernel version (with and without the patch) I'd be really interested ...
1129401881 M * mef why would fork-proc take 103msec with vanilla and 130msec with vserver?
1129401891 M * mef bertl: we'll get that hopefully within the hour or so.
1129401909 M * Bertl well, fork can take quite longer ...
1129401922 M * mef that's fine... can you explain why?
1129401929 M * Bertl after all, it has to do some additional accounting
1129401939 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-2-133.bulldogdsl.com
1129401941 M * Bertl processes per thread and such stuff
1129401944 M * mef 25 microseconds worth of accounting?
1129401949 M * Bertl s/thread/context/
1129401966 M * Bertl depends, but 25 microseconds sound very high indeed
1129401972 M * mef yeah...
1129401982 M * Bertl if you do some testing ...
1129401982 M * mef I am not worried about a small percentage.
1129401989 M * Bertl and it looks like :)
1129401998 M * mef But 103 to 130 does not look good.
1129402000 M * Bertl please add the profiling support 
1129402008 M * mef oprofile?
1129402011 M * Bertl yes
1129402020 M * Bertl and get oprofile and the userspace tools
1129402026 M * Bertl (especially readprofile)
1129402032 M * mef I have never used it in this context... what would it reveal?
1129402043 M * mef I have never used it (period).
1129402061 M * Bertl I can point you to some pages describing the process
1129402068 M * mef ok .. please do.
1129402073 M * mef send me an email please.
1129402078 M * Bertl it allows to narrow down the issue (if there is any)
1129402083 M * mef running off to do some other measurements.
1129402110 M * Bertl and decent profiling is always appreciated ... we might be able to improve some things
1129402146 M * Bertl http://oprofile.sourceforge.net/news/
1129402153 M * mef I have a paper deadline 8pm my time this Tuesday by which time everything needs to be done.
1129402159 M * Bertl http://oprofile.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html
1129402179 M * Bertl but for a first start, use readprofile
1129402199 M * Bertl http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_readprofile.htm
1129403795 M * Bertl okay, guess I'm off to bed now ...
1129403807 M * chwi it's suprising when i ssh vserver_ip it ask me a password (it refuses it though) but i didnt install ssh yet!
1129403816 M * Bertl have a good whatever everyone ... 
1129403831 M * Bertl chwi: it's probably the host's sshd :)
1129403840 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1129403855 M * chwi bonna noche
1129404063 M * daniel_hozac chwi: add ListenAddress <host's IP address> to the host's sshd_config.
1129404123 M * chwi it's a adsl dynamical, i cant.
1129404485 M * chwi damn i cant start the sshd on vserver, it says 22 is already used
1129404506 Q * bragon Remote host closed the connection
1129404525 M * daniel_hozac exactly.
1129404815 M * chwi it isnt possible to listen on port 22 for 2 differents ips ? 
1129404893 M * daniel_hozac it is, but your host's sshd is listening on all addresses.
1129404936 M * chwi oki but since it's a dynamical one, i cant specify it. there is no way ? Or I have to sshd.conf each time it changes ? :/
1129404941 M * chwi and restart it
1129404983 M * daniel_hozac you could use a different port for the host's sshd.
1129405007 M * chwi well yes, a >1024 one ? no risks ?
1129405011 M * chwi ok i will do that.
1129405013 M * chwi thks daniel_hozac
1129405845 Q * sven12 Remote host closed the connection
1129409393 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-009.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1129409420 M * FireEgl What are the fork_rss and prolific flags sposta do?
1129411374 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_zZ: it is indeed a memory split + Fedora problem.
1129412909 M * jayeola probably off topic, but say you had a 40gb disk and have only used 20 for *nix, does one use parted to resize the disk?
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1129413212 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-148.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1129413517 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52
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1129420271 J * Microprocessor ~Unix@203.188.9.120
1129420274 P * Microprocessor