1128902526 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1128902775 M * douglas hey bertl 1128902792 M * Bertl yup? 1128902796 M * douglas I was reading a little about the hanging of centos4 when issueing the vserver xid stop command 1128902803 M * douglas its a known bug? 1128902815 M * Bertl it is probably already solved in different ways ... 1128902823 M * douglas well its still hanging on mine 1128902838 M * Bertl what init style do you use? 1128902846 M * daniel_hozac put a real killall script in there, or use the rkill patch and set the appropriate flag. 1128902868 M * daniel_hozac (assuming it's the minilog problem) 1128902870 M * Bertl could even be solved by adding the ctrl-alt-del line to inittab :) 1128902905 M * daniel_hozac it's there by default ;) 1128902914 M * douglas bertl sysv 1128902939 M * Bertl so, yes, probably minilogd is to blame ... 1128903011 M * douglas "real" killall script? 1128903012 M * douglas such as? 1128903016 M * douglas rkill patch? 1128903025 M * daniel_hozac http://cvs.hozac.com/viewcvs/*checkout*/vserver-guest/real-killall.init?root=rpms&rev=1.1.1.1 1128903069 M * daniel_hozac http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ | grep rkill ;) 1128903141 M * douglas that worked GREAT 1128903144 M * douglas thanks daniel 1128903289 Q * lownoize Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128903656 Q * litage Read error: Connection timed out 1128903692 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1128903910 J * lownoize ~lownoize@p54ACA3A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1128904455 M * litage Bertl: how do you run ntop in "spectator context"? 1128904481 M * daniel_hozac chcontext --xid 1 ... 1128904484 M * Bertl you can use chcontext --xid 1 1128905937 M * gndmstr Bertl i forgot.. do i have to use this any more after a guest startup? vattribute --xid 3905 --flag ^37 1128906073 M * Bertl not unless you have issues with a guest not restarting properly (without it) 1128906105 M * gndmstr ok will know after it gets in the rack and i can assign proper ips and get them working 1128906131 M * gndmstr if it wont hurt to use it, maybe ill just put it in there for safety? 1128906137 M * Bertl IIRC, hollow fixed the gentoo guest stuff/layout to work without it 1128906145 M * gndmstr ok 1128906149 M * daniel_hozac how are you supposed to investigate/fix "reboot after loading from GRUB" problems? 1128906164 M * Bertl gndmstr: and the stable (2.0.1) branch you tested does not know that flag anyway ... 1128906180 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: details? 1128906199 M * gndmstr ok honestly tho i decided to try 2.6.13.3-vs2.1.0-rc4 since its been rock solid on all the servers 1128906214 Q * litage Remote host closed the connection 1128906228 M * daniel_hozac all of my recently built kernels will just instantly reboot after GRUB loads the kernel, but just the SMP variant. 1128906253 M * Bertl gndmstr: what I meant was ... if it worked fine with 2.0.1 (no start/stop/restart issues) then chances are good you do not need it at all :) 1128906263 M * gndmstr ahh ok 1128906267 M * gndmstr thanks 1128906277 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, sounds like bad SMP initialization ... 1128906301 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: do you have verbose debugging and printk/timing enabled? are we talking about 2.6 kernels at all? 1128906322 M * daniel_hozac no debugging of any sorts enabled. 1128906334 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.13-1.1528_FC4.vs2.0.1.0.pre2.1 1128906356 M * Bertl okay, make sure to enable verbose debug and the printk stuff (if that applies for this kernel) 1128906406 M * daniel_hozac ok. 1128906434 M * Bertl you should at least be able to see something there (serial console?) 1128906459 Q * douglas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128906642 J * douglas ~douglas@douglas.user.oftc.net 1128906644 M * douglas I be back 1128906648 M * daniel_hozac i'll have to find that cable then :) 1128906775 M * Bertl wouldn't hurt, I guess :) 1128906846 M * daniel_hozac 9600 8N1? 1128906872 M * Bertl whatever you specify, mine works up to 115200n8 1128907125 M * daniel_hozac how do you get minicom to log the output to a file? 1128907150 M * Bertl there is an option .. sec 1128907208 M * Bertl CTRL-A Z L 1128907215 M * douglas hey 1128907227 M * douglas hasn't anyone gotten cpanel to work inside a vserver properly? 1128907275 M * daniel_hozac thanks. 1128907324 M * douglas cpanel has like bandwidth stuff inside the vserver, that uses iptables and stuff, and linux NG networking isn't quite ready so I'm wondering if there are work arounds for cpanel or something? 1128907428 M * micah good evening/morning/afternoon 1128907434 M * Bertl douglas: the feedback regarding cpanel is very sparse 1128907438 M * Bertl micah: gug? 1128907447 M * douglas yea I know 1128907476 M * douglas thats why I'm asking 1128907479 M * Bertl douglas: if it uses scripts (and I remember that it does to some degree) then it might be easy to adjust them 1128907491 M * micah Bertl: gug? 1128907501 M * Bertl GMT Universal Greeting :) 1128907506 M * douglas yea but bandwidth is an important thing in webhosting. and it uses iptables to figure that in. 1128907507 M * micah ;) 1128907546 M * Bertl douglas: well, both iptables and tc (bandwidth control) work on the host, but I doubt they can be made working from inside the guest (without ngnet) 1128907546 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: no output whatsoever, minicom didn't even change status to online. 1128907554 M * douglas yea 1128907562 M * douglas and ngnet isn't close to being ready is it? 1128907573 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: check hardware handshake, and did you specify a console=ttyS0, ... line 1128907584 M * micah Bertl: I'm trying to figure out what to do about the kernel patches in debian, with all the tests its complicated, so I am thinking of just looking at the 2.4 patch failures first, and then the 2.6 ones 1128907595 M * Bertl douglas: it is on hold right now ... waiting for some funding :) 1128907621 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: hardware handshake? 1128907630 M * Bertl micah: is 2.4 really interesting nowadays? 1128907632 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: console=tty0 console=ttyS0,9600n8 1128907665 M * micah Bertl: unfortunately it is for some people 1128907684 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: a) try to put the ttyS0 first, b) check for the setup (in minicom) disable Hardware Flow Control (unless your cable supports it) and c) check the physical ports 0/1 1128907700 M * Bertl micah: ah, well, okay, than it sounds reasonable ... 1128907718 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: so software flow control? or neither? 1128907740 M * Bertl neither for a start 1128907746 M * daniel_hozac ok. 1128907765 M * Bertl btw, grub allows to enable the console (serial) too, try that to see if it works 1128907837 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i was thinking about that. 1128907851 M * micah Bertl: which testfs.sh tests are security problems if they fail for a filesystem? 1128907877 M * daniel_hozac can you enable the serial console from the GRUB command line? 1128907895 M * Bertl yep, something like console or terminal 1128907953 M * micah Bertl: 109 and 121, correct? 1128907970 M * micah (is this true with the 1.2 vserver patch as well?) 1128908039 M * Bertl micah: sec 1128908045 M * douglas hmm 1128908289 M * douglas What exactly is COW? 1128908302 M * douglas is there a simplistic defination anywhere? 1128908345 M * daniel_hozac Copy On Write. 1128908364 M * daniel_hozac as soon as you write to the file, a copy is made and the write redirected to that file instead. 1128908372 M * daniel_hozac (AIUI) 1128908424 M * Bertl micah: 103,104,106 are very likely to be security issues on 2.4 1128908462 M * Bertl micah: also 121 and 122 1128908700 M * Bertl micah: the whole 11x test range is annoying but not critical 1128908754 M * micah Bertl: ok, testfs.sh using patch-2.4.27-9-vs1.2.10-2.diff with debian's 2.4.27 sarge kernel and util-vserver-0.30.208 show that ext2/ext3 fail on 104, 106, 122; xfs fails on 103, 104, 106, 121, 122; reiserfs fails on 104, 106, 122; jfs fails on 103, 104, 106, 121 and 122 1128908785 M * micah I'm hoping that this is a tool or testfs failure ;) 1128908816 M * Bertl micah: with -l option? 1128908817 M * micah I was thinking that a good test is to take vanilla 2.4.27 and the most recent 1.2 vserver patch, and try the same tests 1128908857 M * Bertl micah: please upload the test output for me ... 1128908886 M * micah Bertl: yes 1128908973 M * micah Bertl: http://pastebin.ca/25074 1128909234 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1128909269 M * Bertl micah: okay, the 104 is a non-issue, as it is 'stricter' as required ... 1128909282 M * Bertl (i.e. it is not a security issue) 1128909326 M * Bertl ahem, I meant the 106 1128909374 M * Bertl 114 and 104 seem to be a testfs check issue 1128909416 M * micah thats good, improving testfs is a positive move :) 1128909433 M * Bertl xfs seems broken ... 1128909466 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: still no output... i get GRUB, but nothing whatsoever from the kernel. 1128909490 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, try early printk (if that is available) and enable ACPI 1128909506 M * micah daniel_hozac: sounds familiar, I've had that problem before... I could get grub, then the kernel would stop the serial, but what was interesting is that the serial output would come back when the login: prompt appeared 1128909539 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, btw, is the serial driver compiled into the kernel and serial console enabled? 1128909565 M * daniel_hozac doh, i've completely forgot to check that. 1128909680 M * daniel_hozac yep, serial console enabled. 1128909685 M * daniel_hozac where would early printk be? 1128909708 M * daniel_hozac and ACPI is enabled. 1128909777 M * Bertl CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=y 1128909785 M * Bertl (not sure your kernel has that) 1128909890 M * daniel_hozac had to enable CONFIG_EMBEDDED first. 1128910096 M * douglas vserver is faster then xen and uml. 1128910105 M * douglas correct? 1128910128 M * Bertl depends ... for a single guest I'd say: 1128910150 M * micah douglas: they server different purposes, but definately faster IMHO 1128910151 M * Bertl xen = vserver >= uml 1128910167 M * Bertl for more than one guest you probably have 1128910177 M * Bertl vserver >= xen > uml 1128910220 M * Bertl IIRC, xen has native speed with a single guest, no? 1128910221 M * douglas the only reason I'm looking at xen is for cpanel used, cuz 90% of webhosting admins and clients use cpanel 1128910227 M * douglas its the aol of webhosting. 1128910267 M * Bertl well, why not setup a linux-vserver guest/host? with cpanel and bring the issues you encounter here ... 1128910286 M * douglas I did, cpanel uses iptables to determine bandwidth 1128910287 M * douglas :) 1128910310 M * Bertl well, details and examples ... 1128910344 M * Bertl (already said that you can do that quite fine on the host) 1128910387 M * douglas well maybe I'm confused, I mean running cpanel inside of a vserver 1128910418 M * Bertl yes, doesn't mean that the iptable rules have to happen inside, no? 1128910418 M * douglas yanno how on a host machine getting mrtg with ipac-ng works? cpanel uses close to the same thing to determine bandwidth. 1128910453 M * douglas how would it happen outside? 1128910467 M * Bertl add the accounting rules outside the guest, check them inside 1128910492 M * douglas I mean the cpanel software runs commands for ip-chains etc to determine bandwith 1128910504 M * Bertl how does it run these? 1128910535 M * Bertl i.e. is the system binary called (iptables)? 1128910555 M * Bertl ah, you said ipchains? so it uses 2.4 API? 1128910564 M * Bertl (actually 2.2 api) 1128910574 M * douglas ok I'm gonna install it again and we can work on it. 1128910599 M * douglas it looks for ipfw 1128910603 M * douglas which I believe is iptables based 1128910606 M * douglas not ipchains 1128910624 M * micah douglas: have you considered an opensource/freesoftware control panel alternative? 1128910653 M * micah they aren't as "advanced" as cpanel, but... 1128910658 M * Bertl douglas: hmm, ipfw reminds me of webmin 1128910666 M * micah hehe 1128910680 M * douglas micah like plesk? dont these need some sort of way to view bandwidth etc? 1128910694 M * micah douglas: I think plesk is the same as cpanel, commercial 1128910705 M * micah douglas: I was thinking of syscp, vhcs, or ravencore 1128910757 M * micah i've setup syscp using vservers, its not as elegant as cpanel, but it is working 1128910772 M * micah douglas: http://deb.riseup.net/web-server/syscp/ 1128911166 M * douglas installing cpanel 1128911293 M * douglas it'll be a min. 1128911302 M * douglas No IP address found, returning 0.0.0.0 at /scripts/cPScript/DIp.pm line 184. 1128911311 M * douglas that the first error I get on installing 1128911316 M * douglas which I'm not neccessarily to worried about 1128911319 M * Bertl so let's check that module then ... 1128911336 M * Bertl brb, have to reboot my workstation 1128911587 M * douglas ok I'm looking at that module and I have no idea I'm looking 1128911616 M * douglas I think its checking eth0 for the ip 1128911662 M * daniel_hozac how? 1128911692 M * douglas I'm not entirely sure, I dont really know much about scripting or coding persay. 1128911700 M * daniel_hozac ifconfig? ip? 1128911725 M * douglas @EXPORT = qw(isdedicatedip getmainip getmainserverip validip); 1128911765 M * douglas opendir(MIPS,"/var/cpanel/mainips"); 1128911792 M * daniel_hozac what's at line 184 though? 1128911804 M * daniel_hozac (and right before that) 1128911851 M * Bertl douglas: you should, for a start, configure an alias for the guest (i.e. add the name file) 1128911868 M * Bertl douglas: I assume cpanel is also using the ancient ifconfig :) 1128911886 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/388721 1128911904 M * douglas alias add the name file? 1128911910 M * douglas exquse me? :) 1128911917 M * Bertl I do, I do :) 1128911929 M * douglas lol 1128911935 M * douglas sorry I'm a bit of mike myers fan so 1128911938 M * douglas heh 1128911947 M * Bertl /etc/vserver//interfaces/0/name :) 1128911964 M * douglas and what od I put in there? 1128911996 M * douglas right now I just have vs1 1128912001 M * douglas is there suppose to be something else? 1128912024 M * Bertl so you already have an alias name there? 1128912025 M * douglas daniel that pastebin was for you, thats it whats at line 184 and before. 1128912028 M * douglas yea 1128912037 M * daniel_hozac douglas: a few more lines would be needed. 1128912044 M * Bertl douglas: okay, that should be fine then ... 1128912188 M * micah Bertl: is there something I can do to fix the testfs checks? 1128912338 M * Bertl micah: yeah, you might try to adjust the case checks to match a number of --- between i and t 1128912758 M * micah Bertl: I guess I dont understand the output, for example: verify /mnt2/dir_3263: -----------t* ~ ---------------t- 1128912785 M * micah does this mean that /mnt2/dir_3263 had the attributes ---------------t- and it should have -----------t*? 1128912815 M * micah it looks that way to me 1128913178 M * Bertl micah: try that one ... http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testfs.sh-0.11 1128913211 M * Bertl okay, back in a jiffie ... 1128913254 M * douglas bertl 1128913258 M * douglas and daniel 1128913258 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/388732 1128913264 M * douglas all sorts of stuff that cpanel uses 1128913278 M * douglas I mean cpanel is gonna take some HEAVY modification to get it work I think 1128913324 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/388734 1128913330 M * douglas this is the begining of the vserver vs1 start script 1128913333 M * douglas after installing cpanel 1128913811 M * douglas ne1? 1128914124 M * micah douglas: it does sound like it'll need modification to get it to work right 1128914238 M * douglas micah, alot of modification 1128914319 M * douglas and I'm wondering if I should switch to a diff vps software until vserver gets the ability to run iptables among other things. I like vserver, but its not what I like its what my customers can use. and my customers are screaming at me for cpanel. 1128914536 M * micah douglas: or you can just modify cpanel to do the iptables work on the host 1128914553 M * douglas yea but thats a serious mod and I'm not even sure how to do that to be honest. 1128914563 M * douglas and is that viable for running like 10 vservers on one system? 1128915097 M * micah douglas: depends on the hardware, but I run 20 vservers on one system 1128915758 M * gndmstr im off to bed. boring watching a several hour compile :) have a great night/day all! 1128915775 Q * gndmstr Remote host closed the connection 1128916150 J * sebi ~sebi@Fcd4e.f.strato-dslnet.de 1128916259 Q * sebi_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128916423 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128917022 M * douglas bertl alive? 1128917070 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1128921237 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-50-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1128921248 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128923871 J * RedSpy max@pD95352FA.dip.t-dialin.net 1128925261 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128925594 Q * RedSpy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128925751 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1128927300 Q * RebootMonkey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128927688 Q * alexx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128928079 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-180.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1128928413 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128928771 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176 1128929028 J * reg_ ~lan.nur@217.17.172.210 1128929034 M * reg_ hello 1128929655 Q * reg_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128930301 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1128930573 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128930580 N * _mcp mcp 1128931185 Q * jayeola Quit: leaving 1128932318 J * seb123 ~sebastian@213.239.217.34 1128932319 M * seb123 hi 1128932348 M * seb123 I have a big problem: I updated my Gentoo system and now my vservers don't start anymore :-( 1128932368 M * seb123 Anyone? 1128932420 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1128932600 Q * seb123 Quit: 1128934339 Q * michal Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128934381 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128934619 J * michal ~michal@graffias.estrefa.pl 1128934637 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1128936315 J * erwan__taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1128936576 J * Nicoli ask@28.burningd.enterconnect.net 1128936615 Q * erwan_taf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128937998 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1128938335 Q * erwan__taf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128938666 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1128938871 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128938879 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1128938898 N * mrec_ mrec 1128940819 J * Aiken ~james@203.164.233.242 1128940915 J * lilo sivrif@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1128940941 Q * lilo_ Remote host closed the connection 1128942651 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128942817 J * b101 Bogner@192.116.240.34 1128942822 M * b101 Helo Bertl_zZ ! 1128942830 M * b101 I hope ur not Zzzing! :P 1128942844 M * b101 anyone is here? 1128942913 M * b101 I have been trying to compile util-vserver-0.30.205-r1 on a gentoo system ... 1128943092 M * b101 for some reason the linking of libvserver fails [with a few warnings related to undefined reference] 1128943302 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128943326 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1128943723 J * reg_ ~lan.nur@217.17.172.210 1128943731 M * reg_ hi everyone !!! I am an alexander , I from russia !!! 1128943756 M * b101 hell is this true mate? 1128943762 M * b101 are u from russia ? 1128943782 M * reg_ yes 1128943924 J * romke ~romke@procyon.romke.net 1128943977 P * erwan_taf Leaving 1128944235 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128944272 P * reg_ 1128944431 Q * romke Quit: leaving 1128945462 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1128946323 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1128949063 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128950225 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.49.78.240 1128950534 J * liquid3649 ~liquid@p54976CBD.dip.t-dialin.net 1128950783 M * eyck that was a tricky question, I presume? 1128951392 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.53 1128951499 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128951500 N * menomc mnemoc 1128952307 M * b101 lol 1128954665 Q * Greek0 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128955086 Q * b101 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128955109 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128955615 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1128957610 J * stefani ~stefani@128.95.76.150 1128958494 Q * douglas Quit: 1128959027 M * mrec hmm what patch should I use for linux 2.6.13.3? 1128959109 M * mrec got it http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.13.3-vs2.1.0-rc4.diff 1128959433 M * daniel_hozac or 2.0.1-pre2. 1128961911 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128962394 J * traffficccc ~bob@206.127.78.199 1128962434 M * traffficccc morning, folks. 1128962501 M * traffficccc i am having a hell of a time and i think i need to be steered in a different direction 1128962523 M * traffficccc i've got the vserver host running fine, and i setup the first guest server. 1128962551 M * traffficccc now i'm trying to get mysql to run but it fails without an error (i'm not sure where it keeps the logs) 1128962586 M * traffficccc i think its failing because 127.0.0.1 doesnt actually exist on the guest server, or even the loopback in general 1128962610 M * traffficccc so, the question is, how do i go about getting the loopback configured on the guest server? 1128963291 J * litage ~nick@203.220.55.70 1128963414 J * sven12 ~sven@80-235-88-98-dsl.prn.estpak.ee 1128963445 Q * sven12 Quit: 1128964246 M * micah traffficccc: it should work 1128964262 M * micah traffficccc: you want to look at your logs to see what exactly is failing 1128964388 M * traffficccc do you know where mysql keeps it's logs by default? 1128964406 M * lownoize /var/lib/mysql ? 1128964944 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128965345 J * sim0n ~simon@212.76.255.43 1128965360 J * calum ~calum@82.69.161.141 1128965402 M * calum Is it just me, or is it not possible to run Apache, SSH, and MySQL in 64MB ram? 1128965531 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1128965665 M * lownoize calum, apache+php+mysql? 1128965707 M * lownoize with enough swap it should run 1128965732 J * mrec_ ~revenger@p54B01988.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1128966030 Q * mrec Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128966183 M * calum I have an rss.hard of 16384, and an as of, well, loads. 1128966218 Q * sim0n Quit: Client exiting 1128966253 J * pjay ~pjayet@85.218.15.83 1128966265 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128966600 M * pjay hello all ... i have a question about the latest stable release and network interfaces (kernel 2.6.12.4 and vs2.0 patch) .. from within a vserver, how can i have an address shown on the interface using the ifconfig command ? ip addr shows me the address but ifconfig not. any idea ? i have the following files with the correct (?) content : /etc/vservers//interfaces/0/ip (192.168.x.10), /etc/vservers//interfaces/0/prefix (24), /etc/vservers//interfaces/0/name with content "eth0:foo" but no success ... (as seen on the flower conf. page :) ) 1128966769 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1128966778 M * Bertl *phew* morning/hello folks! 1128966808 M * Bertl pjay: try with 'foo' in 'name' 1128966830 M * Bertl (and of course, add the 'eth0' as 'dev') 1128966840 M * pjay hello bertl ! thanx for your help, i'll try that. by the way, your patch is just great ! 1128966859 M * Bertl my pleasure! glad that you like it! 1128966906 M * Bertl traffficccc: _how_ does it fail? what is in the logs? 1128967006 M * pjay bertl: it doesn't seem to work .. these are the file contents (prefix dir is /etc/vservers//) 1128967006 M * pjay interfaces/dev: eth0 1128967006 M * pjay interfaces/0/name: foo 1128967006 M * pjay interfaces/0/ip: 192.168.x.10 1128967006 M * pjay interfaces/0/prefix: 24 1128967007 M * pjay is it correct ? 1128967067 M * pjay bertl: after making the changes, i always do a vserver stop; vserver start - it hope it's enough 1128967080 M * pjay bertl: my util-server version is 0.30.208 1128967085 M * Bertl well, yes, you should have stopped it before :) 1128967262 M * pjay bertl: that's right .. :) i'll stop it before making the change next time. but it still doesn't work ;( in fact, i've just migrated from last stable release, and i try to run portmap/nfs-user-server & samba, both apparently require an active interface. 1128967418 M * Bertl then you did something wrong :) 1128967438 M * Bertl most likely the IP is already assigned (and you get an error message at startup) 1128967452 M * Bertl check with 'ip addr ls' (on the host) 1128967461 M * Bertl and remove the IP in question ... 1128967471 M * lownoize pjay, which userspace nfsd do you use? 1128967555 M * pjay bertl: i'm afraid that's the case ... finding out what ;P yes, the address of the vserver is already assigned on the eth0 interface of the host - isn't this correct ? so i'll try to remove it from the host and restart the vserver ... 1128967585 M * Bertl good! 1128967585 M * pjay lownoize: the only one i found in the official debian sarge packages .. nfs-user-server 1128967634 M * Bertl okay, have to leave now .. will be back later ... have fun! 1128967638 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1128967644 M * lownoize pjay, i use this userspace nfsd too and it looks like it has problems with files bigger then 2GB 1128967678 M * pjay lownoize: mmh that's not good ... do you know from where it may come ? 1128967692 M * pjay bertl: thanx for you help .. 1128967715 M * lownoize syslog.1:Oct 3 08:16:49 fs2 nfsd[22363]: non-standard errno: 75 (Value too large for defined data type) 1128967728 M * pjay lownoize: i heard of an alternative nfsv3 server ... unfs3. i haven't tried it yet but i have read that it works great with the vserver patch .. 1128967751 M * lownoize bash-3.00# du -sh vol01.img.gz 1128967751 M * lownoize du: cannot access `vol01.img.gz': Input/output error 1128967769 M * lownoize root@fs2:/var/log# du -sh /data1/vol01.img.gz 1128967769 M * lownoize 3.2G /data1/vol01.img.gz 1128967789 M * lownoize pjay, with unfs3 i had some very strange errors 1128967812 M * lownoize thats why i moved to the debian userspace nfsd 1128967859 M * pjay bertl: good news when you're back: it worked :) thanx a lot ! 1128967916 M * pjay lownoize: okey, unfs3 may not be sufficiently mature for the moment, this is maybe why it isn't in the debian packages :) let's stick to userspace nfsd ... 1128968146 M * lownoize pjay but except of this 2gb filesize problem it works fine 1128968282 M * pjay lownoize: better than nothing. it is the nfs implementation ? or a limitation introduced by the vserver context ?! do you have an idea ? 1128968293 M * pjay lownoize: have to go, i'll be back in a moment .. 1128968305 M * lownoize i think its the nfs implementation 1128968320 M * lownoize because samba has no problems with big files and works just fine 1128969746 J * benj0r ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1128969843 J * michal_ ~michal@graffias.estrefa.pl 1128969876 Q * michal Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128969879 N * michal_ michal 1128970695 Q * traffic Quit: 1128972361 J * sim0n ~simon@212.76.255.43 1128972370 M * sim0n hi 1128972436 M * sim0n could somebody please help me with quotas? i'm completely lost ... had them working, but have no clue how i did it back then 1128972646 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk 1128972648 M * pjay lownoize: i'm back ... have you tried to export this file from the host and see if there is this limitation ? that's strange .. 1128972726 M * lownoize pjay, the file is on a nfs share 1128972742 M * lownoize and i can only access it thru samba or on the server but not thru nfs 1128972841 M * pjay lownoize: i meant to export it with nfs from the host (not within a vserver) but this limitation would probably although happen ... 1128973011 M * lownoize pjay, i only know that it worked with kernel nfsd 1128973018 M * lownoize and it works with samba 1128973035 M * pjay lownoize: by the way, why don't you use samba ? :) 1128973053 M * lownoize pjay, because nfs is much better when you have linux machines 1128973070 M * lownoize 1. file and directory permissions 1128973080 M * lownoize 2. no user/pass login 1128973083 M * pjay lownoize: i've read somewhere that kernel nfsd was working with recent versions of the vserver patch, but i'm not sure ... maybe someone can confirm ? 1128973100 M * lownoize 3. faster then samba 1128973250 M * pjay lownoize: ok that's good arguments ... :o) 1128973353 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-119.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1128973514 M * eyck ...logging... 1128973601 M * lownoize pjay, nfsd[384]: non-standard errno: 75 (Value too large for defined data type) and that error looks like a error in nfsd 1128973748 M * pjay lownoize: yes, without being sure, it really looks like a limitation in nfsd ... 1128973795 Q * liquid3649 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128973952 J * liquid3649 liquid3649@84.151.64.18 1128974170 Q * stefani Quit: I Quit! 1128974910 Q * lownoize Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1128975096 M * traffficccc bertl: just an fyi about the mysql thing. it was my fault. i had file permissions totally hosed all over the place 1128975211 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1128975251 Q * liquid3649 Quit: Verlassend 1128975416 Q * yungyuc Remote host closed the connection 1128975428 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1128976067 Q * lilo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1128976206 J * lilo tor@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1128976284 Q * yungyuc Remote host closed the connection 1128976300 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1128976791 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1128976795 M * Bertl evening folks! 1128976912 M * sim0n hi bertl 1128976923 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-5-17.dclient.hispeed.ch 1128976948 M * Bertl hey sim0n! how did you break your quotas? 1128976988 M * sim0n had to move some vservers to another server an back... quotas gone, and I couldn't get them to work again 1128977010 M * sim0n after some long resarch I now finally got them to work again :-) 1128977019 M * mnemoc the easier way is to use lvm :p 1128977020 M * Bertl excellent! 1128977041 M * sim0n mnemoc: i do use lvm .... but still it's not trivial to get them to work 1128977063 M * Bertl I guess he meant 'just' lvm, no quotas ... 1128977068 M * sim0n Bertl: and I will write a quick howto! :-) 1128977081 M * sim0n oh ok... but i need quotas inside the vserver 1128977095 M * mnemoc ack, no quota. the limit is the size of the logical volume 1128977140 M * mnemoc but having per client lv, quotas are as complex as non-vserver quotas 1128977169 M * Bertl and with 2.6, currently the only way to do it, btw :) 1128977911 M * calum Bertl, Hello :) 1128977911 J * click click@ti511110a080-0272.bb.online.no 1128977944 M * Bertl sim0n: even better! 1128977948 M * Bertl calum: hey! 1128977972 M * sim0n Bertl: even better? 1128977983 M * Bertl (the quick howto :) 1128978120 M * sim0n :-)..... I just found there actually is one....I will add some useful info to it... 1128978510 J * Blissex pcg@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1128979125 M * calum Blissex, Hello, fellow zen user 1128979129 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1128979207 Q * benj0r Quit: Pwet 1128979369 M * sim0n Bertl: done... http://linux-vserver.org/Standard+non-shared+quota 1128979476 M * Bertl cool! thanks! 1128979507 M * sim0n no problem :-) 1128979911 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1128979944 M * calum Bertl, quick question 1128979962 M * Bertl welcome mugwump! 1128979981 M * calum If I have lots of vservers on my server, and I don't apply any limits, what will happen when people are using all the memory on the server? 1128980019 M * sim0n guess your server will become sloooooooooooooooooow and unresponsive 1128980050 M * calum But it won't cause the server to crash/hang, will it? 1128980057 M * mugwump hi Bertl 1128980074 M * Bertl calum: depends ... similar to a normal linux system, this is controlled by the memory management 1128980106 M * Bertl calum: if you have overcommitment enabled (default on linux) and your swap space is too low, the OOM killer will try to save things ... 1128980107 M * mugwump looks like I don't get to give my vserver talk (http://utsl.gen.nz/talks/vserver/) at LCA (http://lca2006.linux.org.au/) 1128980129 M * Bertl calum: if that fails .. e.g. too many new requests, it will finally lock up ... 1128980137 M * calum Eeek. 1128980149 M * mugwump Bertl, have you looked into git/cogito? 1128980163 M * Blissex calum: hi! 1128980186 A * Blissex thinks Zen users are discriminating connoiseurs of ADSL ISPs :-) 1128980205 M * Bertl mugwump: why? 1128980222 M * Bertl mugwump: not the git/cogito, the talk ... 1128980251 M * mugwump well, they've got lots of other speakers I guess. 1128980283 M * calum Blissex, Absolutely. We pay for the extra quality 1128980292 M * mugwump I'm not really of the same class as, eg, Keith Packard 1128980297 M * mugwump or Andrew Tridgell 1128980340 M * Blissex mugwump: dont put KP in the same phrase of AT, the latter is my hero :-) 1128980415 Q * traffficccc Quit: 1128980419 M * mugwump well Blissex I'm a bit of a n00b compared to those guys, only started hacking unix in about '97. So I don't really know the history. 1128980441 M * mugwump s/hacking/hacking on/ 1128980470 M * mugwump hacking on the platform, that is, not the kernel. I've done even less kernel hacking. 1128980480 M * mugwump er, you get what I mean :) 1128980523 M * mugwump Well we had a very interesting session last night at the local Perlmongers group ... had a VCS session instead of a Perl related talk 1128980543 M * mugwump We went through Subversion, SVK, darcs and git. 1128980587 M * mugwump I gave the SVK talk, but yet was left extremely impressed by the git talk and realising how well suited it is for managing merging compared to the other systems 1128980608 M * mugwump we called it a merge based filesystem :) 1128980827 Q * stefani Quit: I Quit! 1128980896 M * mugwump anyway, I saw huge similarities between the way you publish patches out of cogito and the repository at vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1128982076 Q * sim0n Quit: Client exiting 1128982183 J * bragon ~bragon@82.233.222.140 1128982191 M * bragon hi 1128982292 M * Bertl aloha bragon! 1128982343 M * Bertl have a nice whatever everyone ... I'm off to bed now ... cya tomorrow! 1128982350 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1128982407 M * bragon i have some network problem with vserver 1128982424 M * bragon perhaps a french here to help me a little ? 1128982427 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1128982494 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1128985675 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1128988455 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection