1128384125 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1128384558 M * douglas hey
1128384560 M * douglas bertl or anyone
1128384568 M * Bertl yup?
1128384571 M * douglas is it possible to reoute traffic from another vserver to another vserver via the host?
1128384579 M * douglas using iptables etc.etc.
1128384598 M * Bertl traffic happens on the host .. vservers are not involved
1128384604 M * douglas ahh ok so no problem then
1128384605 M * douglas :)
1128384609 M * Bertl precisely
1128384633 M * Bertl just keep in mind, guest to guest trafic goes via lo
1128384650 M * Bertl (same is true for host to guest and guest to host traffic)
1128384670 M * douglas ok?
1128384695 M * Bertl only relevant if you do interface based rules
1128385603 M * douglas hey wants the webpage for doing mrtg on the host machine for monitoring vserver bandwidth?
1128385628 M * douglas nevermind
1128385633 M * douglas http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/faq/
1128385675 M * Bertl a little outdated, but yeah ...
1128387808 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now ... have a good whatever everyone ... cya tomorrow
1128387815 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1128389281 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128389331 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1128390936 Q * dentifrice Remote host closed the connection
1128393260 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-229.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1128393614 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128394806 J * Sonarman_ ~cleetus@adsl-63-196-0-183.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
1128395058 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.49.78.240
1128395113 J * dentifrice ~fluor@tanneries.squat.net
1128395151 Q * Sonarman Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128396826 J * _nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
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1128397709 J * sebi ~sebi@C4940.c.strato-dslnet.de
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1128399813 J * _nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
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1128401552 J * meebey_ meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1128401663 Q * meebey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1128403781 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128403847 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1128405121 J * jkl eric@c-67-173-249-8.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1128409871 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-19-187.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr
1128409936 P * erwan_taf 
1128410056 J * francois ~francois@korn.ctrlaltdel.ch
1128410229 M * francois good morning (depending of your timezone)
1128411692 J * Pajo ~Pajo@80.53.86.234
1128411725 Q * Pajo Quit: 
1128414706 J * eXa_bOy ~a@c220-239-68-228.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au
1128414711 M * eXa_bOy howdy :)
1128414744 A * eXa_bOy is installing vserver as we speak...
1128416127 Q * eXa_bOy Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128416262 J * eXa_bOy ~a@c220-239-68-228.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au
1128416270 M * eXa_bOy ok i got a problem --> http://pastebin.com/382445
1128416273 M * eXa_bOy :(
1128416393 M * eXa_bOy anyone?
1128416821 M * intrigeri maybe you should apt-get remove the util-vserver package first
1128416842 M * intrigeri btw it's weird to have such a .deb with the version included in the package *name*
1128416911 M * eXa_bOy thanks anyway, i rebooted and the machine is stuffed.
1128416911 M * eXa_bOy starting from scratch again now
1128417529 M * meebey_ eXa_bOy: sounds like you are mixing packages there
1128417557 M * meebey_ eXa_bOy: the util-vserver-0.30.208 package is broken, it is missing a replace field for the original util-vserver package
1128417613 M * meebey_ dpkg --remove util-vserver will solve that
1128417670 M * meebey_ including the versionnumber of the software i te package name is usually a bad idea btw, on each new version it needs to replace the package
1128417708 N * meebey_ meebey
1128417778 M * eXa_bOy its what this tutorial told me to do
1128417782 M * eXa_bOy \http://pastebin.com/381525
1128417868 M * eXa_bOy thanks for the tips.
1128417885 M * eXa_bOy im starting clean. can someone reccomend a good tutorial that i can try?
1128417903 M * meebey its a bug inthe scrip then
1128417915 M * meebey just remove the old package and all will be ok
1128417920 M * eXa_bOy too late
1128417935 M * meebey this is not widows, you can fix everythig :)
1128418012 M * meebey eXa_bOy: problem was you had the official debian package installed and tried to install a 3. party package which one did not honor the debian package
1128418046 M * meebey eXa_bOy: it should conflict/replace the official debian package and all would be fine, but it doesn't. you should report that to the script author though
1128418057 M * meebey it seems to be the checkinstall script which does that
1128418290 M * eXa_bOy trust me its too late ive nearly finished reinstall ing again :P
1128418407 M * eXa_bOy so again is there a reliable tutorial out there?
1128418520 M * meebey what do you want to do
1128418808 M * eXa_bOy run vservers like freebsd jails :)
1128418906 M * eXa_bOy ?
1128418954 M * meebey why not vanialla kernel + vserver patch + util-vserver package from debian?
1128418960 M * meebey more you dont need
1128419972 M * eXa_bOy sounds good to me
1128419976 M * eXa_bOy where do i start?
1128421255 Q * eXa_bOy Read error: Connection reset by peer
1128422879 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128423131 J * eXa_bOy ~a@c220-239-68-228.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au
1128423268 J * wam ~wigwam@p549CFA86.dip.t-dialin.net
1128423653 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.75
1128423691 M * eXa_bOy someone point me at a reliable tutorial. ive got a clean install of debian
1128423760 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128423763 N * menomc mnemoc
1128423895 M * eXa_bOy ?
1128424062 M * wam Hi! In which file do I have to set CAP_SYS_RESOURCE?
1128424131 M * eXa_bOy :/
1128424151 M * intrigeri eXa_bOy, for util-vserver : http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver+on+sarge
1128424164 M * eXa_bOy thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
1128424210 M * intrigeri eXa_bOy, for the kernel, I guess you know how to appli vserver patch to the vanilla kernel ?
1128424373 M * wam damn - i'm so stupid. sorry.
1128424434 M * eXa_bOy ok now youve lost me.
1128424449 M * eXa_bOy how do i get vanilla?
1128424601 M * intrigeri http://kernel.org
1128424659 M * eXa_bOy oooh i dont like the sounds of that.... im not that good :(
1128424772 M * SiD3WiNDR intrigeri: cd /usr/src/linux; patch -p1 < vserverpatchfilename
1128425188 Q * lonewolff Remote host closed the connection
1128426399 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host86-128-128-38.range86-128.btcentralplus.com
1128426437 M * eXa_bOy is this anygood? http://lena.franken.de/linux/debian_and_vserver/vserver.html
1128426622 M * eXa_bOy ?
1128427269 M * eXa_bOy s0meone please point me at a devent tutorial for vserver on debian :)
1128427554 M * intrigeri http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/
1128427586 M * intrigeri eXa_bOy, apart of the util-vserver .deb stuff, nothing is really Debian-specific, actually
1128427727 M * eXa_bOy this one better be easy :P
1128427791 M * intrigeri it might not be up to date
1128427810 M * eXa_bOy hmmm ok
1128427881 M * intrigeri I still don't understand why you need a tutorial "for Debian"
1128428006 M * eXa_bOy well just a tutorial in general...
1128428413 Q * hvd Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1128430032 P * eXa_bOy 
1128430143 J * _Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1128430193 Q * Hunger Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128430203 N * _Hunger Hunger
1128431918 Q * douglas Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128432301 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1128432305 M * Bertl morning folks!
1128432320 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk
1128433502 M * hippo Hey Bertl 
1128433577 M * hippo Hollow: Any reason why emerging util-vserver wants to pull in iptables?
1128433584 M * hippo Calculating dependencies ...done!
1128433584 M * hippo [ebuild  N    ] net-firewall/iptables-1.3.2  -extensions +ipv6 -static 181 kB
1128433584 M * hippo [ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/dietlibc-0.28  -debug 547 kB
1128433584 M * hippo [ebuild  N    ] net-misc/vconfig-1.8  -static 157 kB
1128433584 M * hippo [ebuild  N    ] sys-cluster/util-vserver-0.30.205-r1  -glibc 543 kB
1128433624 M * Hollow hippo: because else ./configure would die
1128433634 M * Hollow i.e. it's a dependency ;)
1128433648 M * hippo I see it's a dependancy - I was just wondering what it was that it needed it for
1128433707 M * Hollow yeah... it's just used in one function...
1128433714 M * hippo Not that there's any great problem installing it - just for curiosity...
1128433752 M * Hollow hippo: but you should definitely try 0.30.208-r3
1128433763 M * Hollow ~x86 though..
1128433792 A * hippo is usually fairly cautious - any compelling reason to try it?
1128433809 M * Hollow yeah, it works far better...
1128433866 M * hippo As long as the servers start, and stop, I'm happy :)
1128433909 M * Hollow yeah, it does this job better than 205
1128433913 M * Hollow seriously ;)
1128433945 M * hippo Are you wanting people to test it out, or it is **really** better? I don't mind installing it on my box at home, but this is a work server....
1128433946 M * hippo :)
1128433993 P * wam 
1128435347 M * francois Hi folks, i'm looking for a way to get quotas inside a vserver working with vs2.0
1128435379 M * Bertl quota or quota on shared partitions?
1128435388 M * Bertl btw, welcome francois!
1128435395 M * francois thanks :)
1128435409 M * francois quota inside the vserver using vroot
1128435449 M * Bertl okay, but each guest is on a separate partition?
1128435457 M * ^WinZiP Bertl
1128435468 M * Bertl ^WinZiP: ^WinZiP!
1128435468 M * francois yep, lvm partitions
1128435477 M * ^WinZiP I have installed OpenVZ , its simply good. so simple ! . i will try VServer this week.
1128435497 M * ^WinZiP networking is just --ipadd IP and its working. thats it.
1128435504 M * Bertl francois: okay, then it should be easy ... you know how to configure the vroot?
1128435507 M * ^WinZiP you can easlily built a gui for that.
1128435511 M * francois i got it working once on vs2.0 using the legacy config
1128435523 M * francois but can't get it with the new config
1128435566 M * Bertl francois: okay, in short you will need quota_ctl (capability moved to ccaps)
1128435580 M * Bertl the vroot (configured for security)
1128435591 M * Bertl the mtab entry with ufs and quota
1128435613 M * francois mmh, the quota capability is the one i forgot !
1128435681 M * francois thanks Bertl, i'll give it a try
1128435723 J * samuel ~samuel@laid.izisolution.com
1128435726 M * samuel hi
1128435756 M * samuel is the contextualization work for the routing?
1128435784 M * Bertl for now (without ngnet) all entworking happens on the host
1128435797 M * samuel ok
1128435806 M * Bertl so virtualization doesn't apply to that, only IP limiting is done
1128435900 M * samuel so I can't set something like that: host0(eth0:192.168.1.1, dummy0:10.1.1.1), vserver0(dummy1:10.1.1.10), vserver1(dummy2:10.1.1.11)
1128435928 M * samuel then NAT eth0 and dummy0 
1128435947 M * Bertl sure you can do ...
1128435947 M * samuel and restrict interconnection with netfilter between my vserver
1128435973 M * Bertl even that .. because you can restrict the host networking to block such traffic
1128435999 M * samuel (i've read some docs) but I can't set the default route in my VS
1128436015 M * Bertl that's correct, you ahve to set it on the host
1128436035 M * samuel can I hide the host0 default route?
1128436040 M * samuel (in the vserver)
1128436058 M * samuel because now, I can ping the eth0 from my vserver
1128436072 M * Bertl yes, because you _allow_ it
1128436076 M * samuel oh.. I can netfilter the things
1128436081 M * samuel hehe yes, i see
1128436102 M * Bertl there is some documentation on having more than one gateway too
1128436108 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation
1128436116 M * Bertl http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200311/0470.html
1128436123 M * samuel thanks
1128436133 M * micah Bertl: I have a question about testfs.sh
1128436147 M * micah Bertl: trying to sort out some of these bug reports and run my own tests
1128436167 M * Bertl okay ...
1128436175 M * micah Bertl: I am told to run the testfs.sh as: ./testfs.sh -l -t -D /dev/loop4 -M /mnt/t
1128436177 M * Bertl samuel: you're welcome!
1128436207 M * micah I've got /dev/loop4 created through a dd bs=1024k count=1024 if=/dev/zero of=1gb.testfile; losetup /dev/loop4 1gb.testfs
1128436207 M * Bertl micah: for example, given that loop4 is configured and /mnt/t exists :)
1128436219 M * micah yes, what i am wondering is exactly what is /mnt/t
1128436231 M * micah should it be where /dev/loop4 is mounted?
1128436232 M * Bertl the place where loop4 will be mounted on
1128436244 M * micah ok, so I need to make a filesystem on /dev/loop4 and then mount it at /mnt/t
1128436258 M * Bertl no, the testfs.sh creates several filesystems on the device
1128436271 M * micah ah, ok, so I need to do nothing to create /mnt/t
1128436276 M * micah except maybe mkdir /mnt/t
1128436295 M * Bertl yep, precisely
1128436301 M * micah great, thanks
1128436311 M * Bertl but you need to have the various fstools installed
1128436320 M * Bertl and your kernel has to support them too
1128436332 M * Bertl (you can list them with the -F option)
1128436359 M * micah you mean the jfs, reiser, xfs fs tools
1128436374 M * micah also, setattr is needed
1128436391 M * Bertl yep, precisely
1128436409 J * sven12 ~sven@80-235-89-98-dsl.prn.estpak.ee
1128436418 M * Bertl welcome sven12!
1128436433 M * sven12 hi,Bertl!
1128436511 M * sven12 I've been enjoying vserver a lot after you helped me with setting up that nat
1128436538 M * sven12 now I have tried to set up immutable hard links and disk quota per vserver
1128436559 M * sven12 by following both guides on vserver wiki
1128436564 M * Bertl unification with vunify or vhashify?
1128436578 M * sven12 http://linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits
1128436599 M * sven12 and http://linux-vserver.org/VSkel
1128436610 M * sven12 I ran into one problem
1128436618 M * micah Bertl: also, what is the VCI part of testfs?
1128436637 M * Bertl micah: it is the kernel config information
1128436640 M * sven12 first I use vskel to make a new vserver from a skel
1128436677 M * micah Bertl: ok, so if it is <none>, then testfs isn't going to work -- it will not be <none> on a kernel with vserver support compiled in, right?
1128436687 M * sven12 but then setting up per vserver quota don't work like I hoped it would work
1128436717 M * sven12 I calculated to have only 63 MB used for a new vserver
1128436729 M * sven12 and wanted to make a 250 MB quota
1128436732 M * Bertl micah: none means no xid tagging, so xid tagging test will fail
1128436765 M * sven12 but seemed like vdlimit calculated the hard links,too
1128436766 M * Bertl sven12: okay, let's call it 'Disk Limit' if you don't mean user/group quota to reduce confusion
1128436769 M * micah Bertl: ok... does it make any sense to run testfs on a machine that has no vserver kernel support?
1128436780 M * sven12 ok
1128436788 M * Bertl micah: no
1128436801 M * micah ok, off to run tests
1128436812 M * Bertl sven12: okay, first, you have three cases:
1128436830 M * Bertl 1) normal files belonging to a context (tagged)
1128436838 M * sven12 yes
1128436843 M * Bertl 2) normal files belonging to the host context (tag=0)
1128436862 M * Bertl 3) unified files belonging to the host context (unified, tag=0)
1128436888 M * sven12 ok
1128436890 M * Bertl well, theoretically you could also have unified files belonging to a different context, but that won't work too well
1128436920 M * Bertl vdlimit doesn't calculate anything
1128436936 M * Bertl it just sets the values you pass (as arguments) in the kernel
1128436949 M * micah Bertl: are red [###]* tests ones that failed?
1128436956 M * Bertl sven12: the kernel then keeps them updated (when files are removed or added)
1128436969 M * sven12 well I thought with some option I culd tell vdlimit to exclude those hard linked files, like those in /usr/bin
1128436983 M * Bertl micah: yes, you might remove the -t (terse) and add a number of -v (verbose)
1128437010 M * Bertl micah: also the -x (xid tagging tests) are of interest
1128437035 M * Bertl sven12: you should exclude those in the calculation yes
1128437070 M * Bertl sven12: but to do that, you need a slightly smarter command than in the examples
1128437086 M * sven12 yes
1128437118 M * Bertl check out daniel_hozac's modifications to some coreutils
1128437151 M * Bertl they are xid aware (to some degree) and you might easily create a command sequence accounting it correctly
1128437360 M * micah Bertl: is it possible to turn off color in the testfs?
1128437398 M * micah if I run 'script' and then the tests, the resulting logfile is hard to read with the control characters
1128437443 M * sven12 ok,where could I found Daniel's modifications?
1128437477 M * sven12 somewhere here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ ?
1128437505 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/stuff/coreutils-5.2.1-xid-libvserver-not-dirs.patch
1128437515 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/stuff/coreutils-5.2.1-inode-counting.patch
1128437529 M * sven12 ok,thanks :)
1128437543 M * Bertl micah: not yet, but I guess that's easy, look at the first few lines/commands in the script (a patch is welome :)
1128437566 M * Bertl micah: another option is to simply 'cat' the log-file, which will show the color codes correctly
1128437606 M * micah Bertl: the problem is mailing the logfile to a bug report
1128437739 M * micah interesting, even without -x the xid tests are run
1128437776 M * Bertl try
1128437783 M * Bertl  ... | sed 's/^[[^m]*m//g'
1128437793 M * micah hmm, maybe xid != xattr?
1128437799 M * Bertl where ^[ is escape
1128437814 M * Bertl yep, xid != xattr :)
1128437957 M * Bertl okay, I'm off for now .. will be back later ...
1128437962 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1128438688 J * wam ~wigwam@p549CE867.dip.t-dialin.net
1128438702 P * wam 
1128438705 J * wam ~wigwam@p549CE867.dip.t-dialin.net
1128438730 M * wam What was the kernel-parameter again if I want to have more than 8 vservers? I can't find the docs anymore...
1128438771 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1128439253 M * micah wam: there is no kernel parameter needed to have more than 8 vservers
1128439314 M * wam hmm - maybe i remember an old version... Ok - so I'll just go on. Thanks.
1128439341 M * micah wam: i've got 20 running on this server without problems
1128439478 M * SiD3WiNDR hum
1128439482 M * SiD3WiNDR iirc there was something to patch?
1128439483 M * wam hmm - here it is. A patch against kernel 2.6.12 called "delta-vroot-fix01.diff", which edits /drivers/block/vroot.c. Maybe it is only required if I use the vroot-feature. It adds a kernel-parameter "max_vroot=".
1128439515 M * wam Does anyone know about this?
1128439651 M * wam here it is described (sorry, german only): http://www.debianhowto.de/de:howtos:sarge:linux-vserver   . It says: If you want to run more than 8 virtual machines on your hostsystem, you must apply a little patch. You only have to do this if you configure vserver into the kernel. If you load vserver as module, there is no such bug.
1128439658 Q * ^WinZiP Read error: Connection reset by peer
1128439938 M * micah wam: I dont believe you can even compile the vserver code as a module
1128439986 M * wam i guess this really only concerns the vroot-feature (like you need it e.g. here: mknod /dev/vroot1 b 4 1).
1128440750 J * mrec ~revenger@p54B00213.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1128441170 Q * mrec_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128441684 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1128441689 M * Bertl *short visit*
1128441714 M * Bertl wam: yes, this patch allows you to set the maximum number of vroot devices if the vroot is compiled into the kernel
1128441731 M * Bertl wam: if it is compiled as module, you can specify the number without this fix
1128442078 M * Bertl okay, off to dinner ... back in 30 ...
1128442129 M * wam Thanks berti! So this patch is irrelevant for me. I don't use vroot ;)
1128442131 P * wam 
1128443249 J * _pvh ~pvh@S010600121729b5b8.gv.shawcable.net
1128443659 J * LiquidChaos ChAoS@69-175-148-164.ontrca.adelphia.net
1128443732 M * LiquidChaos hey anyone have a program named VbReFormer 4.2 or know of a better decompiler...
1128443800 M * Bertl welcome LiquidChaos!
1128443814 M * Bertl does linux-vserver need a decompiler?
1128443826 M * Bertl welcome _pvh!
1128443837 M * _pvh Hi there.
1128443845 M * _pvh I'm just checking out the webpage.
1128443854 M * LiquidChaos lol no idea :(
1128443859 M * LiquidChaos <-- windows 2000 sp5 :(
1128443879 M * Bertl LiquidChaos: so guess you found the wrong channel then :)
1128443883 M * LiquidChaos He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime ( i made it my status on yahoo lol )
1128443892 M * LiquidChaos lol yah..
1128443903 M * LiquidChaos well i woulda had linux ages ago if i had a cd burner..
1128443969 M * Bertl modern linux distros are capable to install via network too ...
1128444041 M * LiquidChaos so ur sayin i could install liinux without a cd correct?
1128444256 M * Bertl yep, precisely, you'll need a floppy though ...
1128444280 M * LiquidChaos i have a floppy
1128444286 M * LiquidChaos lol i think everyone dose
1128444290 M * LiquidChaos 3 1/2 inch
1128444305 M * Bertl well, modern PCs or laptops do not anylonger ...
1128444365 M * LiquidChaos well this pc is from 1998 lol...
1128444368 M * Bertl LiquidChaos: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
1128444371 M * LiquidChaos 700MHz 196 DDr
1128444371 M * LiquidChaos haha
1128444386 M * Bertl better than mine here ...
1128444438 M * LiquidChaos no way.. i thougt my pc was the worst..
1128444463 M * Bertl model name	: Pentium III (Coppermine)
1128444466 M * Bertl cpu MHz		: 598.070
1128444486 M * Bertl but I have 256MB ram :)
1128444511 M * LiquidChaos AMD Athlon(tm) Processor,  MMX,  3DNow, 700MHz
1128444530 M * LiquidChaos thats my processor
1128444554 M * Bertl so check out linux, and of course linux-vserver virtualization :)
1128444581 M * LiquidChaos im at the site n it has like Alpha ARM HP-PA-Risc n so on
1128444593 M * LiquidChaos how do i find out which one i need?
1128444601 M * Bertl sure, debian supports many archs, yours is i386
1128444610 M * LiquidChaos alright thanks =)
1128444615 M * Bertl Intel x86
1128444805 Q * samuel Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.
1128444884 J * tuxcapoeira ~capoeira@85-124-167-78.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1128444957 M * LiquidChaos wow i hope i dont gotta read that huge manual :S
1128445122 M * Bertl welcome tuxcapoeira!
1128445224 M * mnemoc how can i see what capabilities a context efectivly has?
1128445237 M * tuxcapoeira hi bertl!
1128445277 M * tuxcapoeira today installed vserverkenrnel on my powerbook (gentoo)
1128445287 M * Bertl excellent!
1128445314 M * tuxcapoeira just start playing around, will install first host
1128445331 M * micah Bertl: if xattrs are not working properly, does this pose a security problem?
1128445361 M * Bertl usually ... especially 109 + 121
1128445403 M * tuxcapoeira is it possible to have dynamic ip on the vhosts?
1128445458 M * micah Bertl: you may not remember, but there was a version of the kernel patch for debian that did not have xattrs correct (patch-2.6.8-15-vs1.9.5.x-4.diff), you fixed this in patch-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.x-5.diff
1128445474 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: easiest way to compensate for a dynamic IP (on the host) is to SNAT a private IP 8assigned to the guest) 
1128445504 M * Bertl micah: I remember the fact, but not the details ...
1128445537 M * micah Bertl: the problem is that -4 made it into sarge, but then sarge froze, so -5 did not make it in sarge
1128445543 M * tuxcapoeira sorry, i ment on the guest
1128445559 M * Bertl micah: also a lot of issues were fixed in 2.0 ...
1128445576 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: as there is no networking other than on the host (yet) its always on the host
1128445610 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: e.g. assign 10.0.0.1 for the guest and SNAT it (on the host) to your dynamic IP, whatever that might be
1128445615 M * LiquidChaos k now time to find 4 floppy's
1128445647 M * tuxcapoeira tx, so it IS the easy way *G*
1128445733 M * micah Bertl: yes, of course... but to get the patch updated in sarge there needs to be a security issue, and that fix has to be a minimally isolated fix to address the security problem and nothing else. 
1128445747 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: yes, unless you want to restart the guest everytime you get a new ip
1128445749 M * micah Bertl: there may be other considerations to get updates into sarge in a point-release, i need to find those
1128445778 M * Bertl micah: hmm, stable but broken, yeah?
1128445808 M * tuxcapoeira entering guest not possible! output is: chcontext: vc_new_s_context(): Operation not permitted
1128445821 M * Bertl micah: well, I know how debian works (by now) so I'll help where I can, but ultimately it's 'your' problem
1128445852 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: you are root _and_ on the host?
1128445880 M * micah Bertl: well if its broken enough, an update fixing what is broken is probably a candidate for inclusion in a point-release
1128445888 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: what context id are you using? (2-49151 is fine)
1128445921 M * micah Bertl: but again it has to be isolated, no enhancements/new features etc., still trying to track down the criteria
1128445926 M * tuxcapoeira I am root, context (automatically assigned) is 49152
1128446004 M * Bertl it is advised to avoid dynamic ontexts
1128446011 M * Bertl *context
1128446012 M * micah Bertl: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/09/msg00132.html
1128446033 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: but if the guest _is_ running (check with vserver-stat) you should be able to enter it
1128446081 M * Bertl micah: so 'we' should get the tools fixed (especially for other archs, no?)
1128446105 M * Bertl anyway, leaving right now ... but will be back around midnight local 
1128446116 M * micah yes, tools and patch -- I'm going to try and isolate issues with the kernel patch first
1128446123 M * micah to see if any of those criteria match
1128446161 M * Bertl I guess they'll make exceptions if it is _essential_ to make it work, no?
1128446175 M * Bertl okay, gone now ...
1128446179 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1128446493 M * LiquidChaos on the disk it says 1.44MB floppy
1128446501 M * LiquidChaos but my computer says its 1.38...
1128446504 M * LiquidChaos files 1.40...
1128446647 M * LiquidChaos how gay is this
1128447435 M * sven12 does anyone know how to make a df -command to work inside a vserver
1128447442 M * SNy note the difference between MiB and MB
1128447453 M * SNy ie 10^3 vs 2^10
1128447455 M * sven12 do I have to make a nod in dev
1128447471 M * sven12 and then edit fstab inside vserver guest somehow
1128447483 M * SNy other way around, even
1128447528 M * daniel_hozac sven12: what error does df give you?
1128447591 M * sven12 here it is: df: cannot read table of mounted filesystems
1128447624 M * sven12 also there is no hd nod in dev
1128447650 M * sven12 just these: full  initctl  log  null  ptmx  pts  random  tty  urandom  zero
1128447651 M * daniel_hozac do you have an /etc/mtab?
1128447665 M * sven12 yes
1128447670 M * sven12 but it is empty now
1128447683 M * daniel_hozac try ln -sf /proc/mounts /etc/mtab; df -h
1128447724 M * sven12 now it works!
1128447737 M * sven12 thank you
1128447790 M * daniel_hozac /etc/mtab should be generated by the vserver start process.
1128447800 M * daniel_hozac do you have an initscript that empties it?
1128447827 M * sven12 no...
1128447847 M * sven12 i'll check just in case
1128447899 M * sven12 the initscripts should be at /etc/vservers/<vserver name>/scripts ?
1128447906 M * sven12 on the host
1128447925 M * daniel_hozac no, inside the vserver.
1128447935 M * daniel_hozac whatever scripts run there when it's starting.
1128447945 M * mnemoc what's the capability to allow 'mount' ?
1128447946 M * sven12 yes,ok
1128447989 M * sven12 only ones I have there are crond, spawn-php, lighttpd and mysqld
1128448017 M * sven12 but I am not sure if this is because of my distro
1128448028 M * sven12 I am using Arch
1128448057 M * sven12 I checked on host
1128448064 M * sven12 there mtab is filled
1128448082 M * sven12 just like in guest now after your commands
1128448134 M * LiquidChaos grr i hate when my pc just dc/s me from yahoo :-<
1128448155 M * eyck hmm, damn, isn't anyone working on 2.6?
1128448182 M * mnemoc i
1128448190 M * mnemoc i have a 2.4 :p
1128448205 M * eyck so do I, and I just tried 2.6...
1128448214 M * eyck .13, maybe not a lucky number?
1128448231 M * eyck what would be the lucky number? 69? 666?
1128448616 Q * LiquidChaos Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128448948 J * liquid_ ~liquid@p549743E2.dip.t-dialin.net
1128449120 J * Doener ~doener@i5387D06A.versanet.de
1128449398 Q * liquid Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128449817 N * liquid_ liquid
1128450238 M * mnemoc i have a problem with CAP_MKNOD.... mknod a dev/null or cp -a it doesn't allow me to write on it, but mount --bind works. any hint?
1128450938 J * IEF ~ief@cp115413-b.landg1.lb.home.nl
1128450945 M * IEF hello :)\
1128451028 A * IEF slaps Bertl_oO
1128451135 M * IEF what would be a good way to recompile a standard FC4 kernel into a vserver kernel?
1128451390 M * mnemoc i doubt the vserver patch applies to the highly altered fedore kernel
1128451400 M * IEF yeah.
1128451403 M * IEF I found out :)
1128451418 M * IEF I am so bad at kernel compiling.
1128451427 M * IEF everytime I compile a vanilla kernel, it fails
1128451428 M * IEF :)
1128451435 M * IEF so that's why I patched a fedora kernel
1128451839 M * micah IEF: hey be nice, dont slap bertl
1128451854 M * IEF just seeing if he has highlighting on
1128451855 M * IEF :)
1128452224 J * Blissex pcg@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1128452509 Q * sven12 Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12
1128453710 Q * dddd44 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1128453982 J * dddd44 dhb55@60.49.78.240
1128454269 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1128454353 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128455255 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-5-17.dclient.hispeed.ch
1128456786 Q * Nicoli Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128457192 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg116.kollegiegaarden.dk
1128457706 M * mnemoc uhm.... cat /dev/random output _nothing_ o.o    urandom works
1128457819 J * Nicoli ask@208.53.159.170
1128457894 M * eyck your system is low on entropy
1128457894 M * JonB so, how stable are the vserver 2.6 series?
1128457896 M * eyck go get some
1128457907 M * eyck as stable as 2.6 series.
1128457922 M * eyck actually, I believe they are even better, but that's just me
1128457936 M * JonB nice
1128457940 M * mnemoc eyck: how can i gain entropy?
1128457965 M * eyck move your mouse around, 
1128457977 M * eyck get some network/disc activity going...
1128457984 M * daniel_hozac IEF: there are very few rejects, and most of them are very straight-forward.
1128457993 M * mrec hmm there's a problem with X
1128457995 M * eyck buy hardware entropy generator (VIA maybe?)
1128458012 M * mrec I logged in into 192.168.11.50 exported the display to 192.168.11.100 
1128458021 M * mnemoc what's the difference between urandom and random?
1128458022 M * mrec but  100 reports  client 12 rejected from IP 192.168.11.51
1128458031 M * mrec and 51 is the ip address of the vserver
1128458312 M * eyck mnemoc: random is really random
1128458337 M * eyck mnemoc: urandom is just a pseudo-random generator (PRNG) periodically seeded from random
1128458365 M * eyck ie, you will never run out of urandom, but entropy quality from it is abysmal (ie, you can predict sequence of your 'random' numbers)
1128458392 M * mnemoc uhm...  then i'll not symlink them :p
1128458446 M * mnemoc it's a remote monster machine doing _nothing_ and ssh want to get random data :p
1128458455 M * mnemoc i'll have to make it do things...
1128458469 M * eyck yeah, run a torrent seed server :) 
1128458472 M * eyck this should help
1128458483 M * eyck or maybe turn it into some build machine...
1128458497 M * eyck for example, I like re-building sid packages for sarge;)
1128458525 M * mnemoc i want to build packages for my own distribution there, inside a vserver :)
1128458577 M * eyck good enough
1128458616 Q * Nicoli Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128458683 J * Nicoli ask@208.53.159.170
1128458916 M * intrigeri hello
1128458980 M * intrigeri to switch a vserver from dynamix context ID to fixed one (as it seems to be better nowadays,  please correct me if I'm wrong), is there anything needed apart of echo $id > /etc/vservers/vserver-name/context
1128458983 M * intrigeri ?
1128459123 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-184.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1128459225 M * mnemoc after creating a 'device' (mknod) do i need another capability to write on it?
1128459316 M * mnemoc i made a dev/null to be used inside a chroot, a+w, but i can't write on it :\
1128459417 M * mnemoc cp -a /dev/null foo/dev/null    doesn't make a writable neither
1128459424 M * mnemoc but mount --bind works :\
1128459930 M * tuxcapoeira intrigeri: nope, should be enough
1128460221 M * intrigeri tuxcapoeira, thks
1128460690 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: what error do you get when writing?
1128460778 M * tuxcapoeira setting ulimits in vserver-name.conf has no effect for the vserver?
1128460852 M * tuxcapoeira ULIMIT="-H -n 100 -t 1"
1128460863 M * daniel_hozac probably want -HS
1128460888 M * eyck i would drop the '-H' 
1128460914 M * eyck I never knew why vserver started using this modifier
1128460933 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: permission denied
1128461034 M * mnemoc do i need another capability to make those 'c 1,3' really identical?
1128461042 M * tuxcapoeira alreaddy tried, still nothing? only H, HS, only S
1128461175 M * tuxcapoeira got it, i had also a configdir, removed it and it works, tx!
1128461223 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: http://mnemoc.pastebin.com/383162
1128461243 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1128461247 M * Bertl evening folks!
1128461251 M * micah evening Bertl!
1128461260 M * tuxcapoeira hello back!
1128461265 M * mnemoc wb Bertl
1128461290 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: filesystem mounted with nodev? (but that should be Operation not permitted, IIRC)
1128461308 M * mnemoc just 'default'
1128461317 M * micah Bertl: I did testfs tests on a system with -14 of the debian 2.6.8 patch and a system with -15 (which supposedly fixes the xattr issues), but I get the same failures
1128461347 M * Bertl okay, let me see what versions I ahve here ...
1128461372 M * micah the same [xxx] errors occured on both, with all filesystems
1128461383 Q * IEF Quit: 
1128461392 M * micah btw. i sent a diff to the ML with some changes to the testfs script
1128461392 M * eyck evening Bertl
1128461402 M * Bertl micah: great!
1128461412 M * Bertl eyck: and a good one to you too!
1128461419 A * JonB sneaks up behind Bertl and says "BOOOO"
1128461438 A * Bertl freezes with terror ...
1128461450 M * Bertl hey JonB! LTNS!
1128461464 M * eyck whoa, I thought I'm the one responsible for stupid practical jokes, 
1128461473 A * Bertl .oO( this even rhymes ...)
1128461486 M * JonB Bertl: yeah, i've been busy
1128461491 M * eyck hmm, hello JonB, long time no C.?
1128461498 M * JonB eyck: yes
1128461501 M * eyck i need to P.
1128461518 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: i saw this problem on other people at google, but Bertl' suggestion of cp -av from outside doesn't fit to my needs :\
1128461527 M * eyck how's that for famous quotes...
1128461543 M * JonB Bertl: so, hows the vserver life ?
1128461544 M * Bertl eyck: well, off you go then ... don't P in this channel :)
1128461551 M * eyck bye bye
1128461585 M * Bertl JonB: interesting as always ...
1128461618 M * JonB Bertl: what happened during the last months?
1128461629 M * Bertl micah: I have linux-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.x-4 (which was tested)
1128461642 M * Bertl and also linux-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.x-5 and linux-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.y
1128461690 M * mnemoc Bertl: http://mnemoc.pastebin.com/383162 <-- ideas? i need to do mknod-s procedurally inside the vserver
1128461701 M * Bertl micah: but all those kernels are dated older than the testfs script :)
1128461778 M * Bertl mnemoc: what is the pastebin about? what are you trying to do?
1128461779 M * micah Bertl: ok, linux-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.x-5 was fixing xattrs on ext3, I dont know what linux-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.y is ;)
1128461856 M * mnemoc Bertl: i need to make working mknod $something/dev/null c 1 3
1128461870 M * Bertl inside a guest?
1128461873 M * mnemoc yes
1128461883 M * eyck OT: anyone knows how to export USB device to qemu quest?
1128461885 M * Bertl that's not possible in a secure way ... yet
1128461905 M * mnemoc and on a insecure way?
1128461914 M * Bertl eyck: there was some talk about a wrapper, but I don't think it is useable yet
1128461922 M * Bertl mnemoc: give CAP_MKNOD
1128461926 M * mnemoc i have it
1128461931 M * mnemoc i can create the node
1128461941 M * Bertl so?
1128461953 M * mnemoc see the pastebin :)
1128461994 M * Bertl make an strace -fF of that
1128462039 M * mnemoc # strace -fF ls > build/qmail-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne2/dev/null
1128462040 M * mnemoc bash: build/qmail-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne2/dev/null: Permission denied
1128462048 M * mnemoc or mknod?
1128462051 M * daniel_hozac you need to strace -fF the bash.
1128462056 M * mnemoc ok
1128462075 M * Bertl strace -fF bash -c "ls > build/qmail-2.1-stable-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne2/dev/null"
1128462125 M * mnemoc http://mnemoc.pastebin.com/383180
1128462131 M * Bertl tx
1128462182 M * mnemoc EACCES
1128462257 M * micah Bertl: these tests fail: ext2/3/reiser/jfs: 103, 104, 109, 113, 114, 119, 121, 122, 123, 124; in xfs all those fail but also 106, 115, 117 additionally fail 
1128462274 M * JonB Bertl: so, what have been coded the last few months ?
1128462282 M * Bertl mnemoc: you sure you have no strange grsec/rsbac or whatever security lurking behind your neck?
1128462300 M * mnemoc SSP
1128462303 M * mnemoc nothing else
1128462318 M * Bertl JonB: http://linux-vserver.org/Release+FAQ
1128462339 M * Bertl JonB: except for that we have CoW link breaking and a few new toys
1128462402 M * JonB nice
1128462449 M * mnemoc Bertl: can i give all possible capabilities on an easy way? just to test
1128462479 M * Bertl IIRC, there was an 'all' option .. not sure this is still there
1128462495 M * Bertl of course you can use vattribute to give them
1128462557 M * Bertl micah: basic ext2/3 tests on 2.6.8-vs1.9.5.x-4 succeed
1128462565 M * mnemoc tvattribute --set --xid 49152 --bcap all  ?
1128462580 M * Bertl eeek! dynamic contexts :)
1128462589 M * Bertl micah: same for reiserfs
1128462605 M * Bertl micah: xfs is not compiled in ...
1128462627 M * micah Bertl: you do not have failures that match the above numbers?
1128462637 M * mnemoc Bertl: is that the problem? bcap all  didn't help :\
1128462656 M * Bertl micah: no, everything succeeds quite fine ...
1128462665 M * micah Bertl: hmmm, i must be doing something incorrectly
1128462688 M * micah Bertl: i am doing my tests on a loopback file, could this be the reason?
1128462695 M * Bertl micah: could you a) upload the complete output (with -v) and b) show me the changes you did to testfs.sh-0.09 (or whatever you used) and your invocations?
1128462876 M * micah Bertl: changes to testfs were posted to the ML, but here they are in a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/24633
1128462903 A * Bertl hasn't got to the ml yet :)
1128463004 M * micah Bertl: here is complete test output with -v for 2.6.8_1.9.x-5: http://pastebin.ca/24634
1128463012 Q * alexx Quit: Bye
1128463059 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1128463063 M * micah Bertl: and this 2.6.8_1.9.x-4: http://pastebin.ca/24635 (its the same as -5)
1128463089 M * micah my procedure has been to do:
1128463090 M * micah 1. # dd bs=1024k count=1024 if=/dev/zero of=/home/1gb.testfile
1128463090 M * micah 2. # losetup /dev/loop4 /home/1gb.testfile
1128463090 M * micah 3. # mkdir /mnt2
1128463102 M * micah # ./testfs.sh-0.09 -l -v -D /dev/loop4 -M /mnt2
1128463109 M * micah (thats 4.)
1128463254 M * Bertl what's the -l option?
1128463265 A * mnemoc frustrated
1128463280 M * Bertl micah: ah, old barrier code? no, debian isn't that old, I hope
1128463316 M * Bertl micah: -l is for 2.4 kernels
1128463322 M * micah well huh
1128463324 M * micah thats why it fails :)
1128463332 M * micah let me try again withOUT that
1128463429 M * Bertl ah, yes, the xfs/reiser changes, they are in my inofficial version ...
1128463431 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1128463436 M * Bertl welcome stefani!
1128463440 M * stefani hola.
1128463498 M * micah ok, ext2/3 and reiser succeed, xfs fails 103, 106, 113, 115, 117
1128463510 M * micah jfs fails 104, 114, 121, 122, 123, 124
1128463514 M * micah hola stefani
1128463538 M * stefani micah:  reference about testfs.sh for me to read ? 
1128463545 M * Bertl micah: I don't think the debian kernel even has code for xfs or jfs ...
1128463575 M * micah stefani: none that I know of
1128463587 M * micah Bertl: ok, so those failures are not really security problems
1128463600 M * stefani i have not delved into the utils much.
1128463877 M * Bertl micah: they are, if you use that filesystem
1128463920 M * stefani i have observed though  that in all systems where i set up vservers,  showattr always indicates ---bui-  so i have had to manually reset to ---B 
1128463928 M * micah Bertl: when you say you dont think that the debian kernel even has code for xfs or jfs, do you mean code for xattrs for xfs/jfs?
1128463948 M * micah Bertl: but only test 121 is really a security problem, right?
1128463949 M * Bertl stefani: _where_ and what systems?
1128464004 M * stefani Bertl:  on systems i've set up , and the VROOTDIR 
1128464021 M * micah I believe that the debian util-vserver is not setting the barrier properly
1128464077 M * micah but I need to look into that still
1128464267 M * Bertl stefani: what distro? and what kernel/tool version?
1128464433 M * micah I know she is using debian, probably sarge?
1128464458 M * stefani debian, sarge,  
1128464490 M * stefani mostly i have used the kernel source deb plus patch deb. 
1128464493 M * Bertl she? stefani is a female name?
1128464508 M * stefani of course ! 
1128464511 M * stefani ;)
1128464518 M * Bertl live and learn ... my apologies :)
1128464537 M * micah stefan is more commonly the male version
1128464550 M * micah but I think in italian stefani is often male
1128464567 M * Bertl yeah, I remember some guy called stefani ...
1128464574 M * micah but i dont now how frequently stefani goes to italy
1128464577 M * stefani vraiment? 
1128464606 M * micah Andrea is a male name in Italy as well
1128464695 M * stefani but i know two women named michael. 
1128464716 M * stefani and at least one george
1128464717 M * micah Beatrice is the female Bert ;)
1128464769 M * stefani but i have tended toward deb-based kernels 
1128464844 M * tuxcapoeira bertl: what about quota-support in kernel 2.6?
1128464857 M * tuxcapoeira per-context-quota
1128464929 M * micah Bertl: when I run on a 2.4.27 machine (with -l), I get "VCI:  <none>   (unknown)", which shouldn't happen :P
1128464952 M * Bertl micah: no, that is fine, 2.4 has no VCI info
1128464969 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: no time yet, no real demand either ...
1128465001 M * tuxcapoeira just would have been nice for playing around-purpose ;)
1128465105 A * Bertl wonders how many girls visited the channel and were mistaken for guys :)
1128465120 M * micah I get a lot of failures with 2.4
1128465138 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: yeah, for 'playing-around' it's too much to do ... but the devel version has the first three steps there ...
1128465139 M * JonB Bertl: i thought you were married already
1128465146 M * Aiken maybe for the same reason people can not imagine my wife being one of the better FPS players in our group
1128465259 M * micah Bertl: this is 2.4.27 with 1.2.10 vserver patch testfs output: http://pastebin.ca/24641
1128465269 M * Aiken anyone have a working vserver patch for 2.6.14-rcwhatever yet?
1128465277 Q * Johnsie Quit: G'bye!
1128465282 M * tuxcapoeira Bertl: ... was just asking
1128465284 M * Bertl JonB: yes I am ... nevertheless I'm always happy if women show interest/activity in CS or sciences in general (as my SO does)
1128465354 M * Bertl micah: that looks like debian tool bugs, did you try with 0.30.208?
1128465354 J * Johnsie ~john@acs-24-154-53-217.zoominternet.net
1128465393 M * micah Bertl: that was with the sarge tool, will try with .208 now
1128465467 M * Bertl wb Johnsie!
1128465500 M * Johnsie Thanks.
1128465565 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection
1128465622 M * JonB Bertl: in my country more women than men gets a degree
1128465639 M * JonB Bertl: though some hardcore fields are still mostly men
1128465740 M * micah Bertl: yes, it looks like 208 made some tests work, but still many fail: http://pastebin.ca/24642
1128465792 M * Bertl JonB: good to hear, in austra, physics for example, four women and two hundred men are typical ...
1128465797 M * Bertl *austria
1128465836 M * JonB Bertl: that sounds like computer science in denmark. I dont know the physics ratio
1128465840 M * micah same in the US
1128465846 M * JonB Bertl: but in chemestry, there are more women
1128465856 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1128466082 M * JonB anyway, it's bedtime
1128466083 M * JonB zzzz
1128466084 Q * JonB Quit: Leaving
1128466778 M * micah Bertl: if we can identify which tests are security problems or critical breakage if they fail then we can figure out what to do next
1128466809 M * Bertl give me a minute, I'm updating the script (and incorporating your changes)
1128467191 M * micah going to run tests on 2.6 vs 2.0 patches to be complete
1128467221 M * mrec hmm is this already fixed: http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg09473.html?
1128467240 M * Bertl micah: okay, my test with linux-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.x-4 succed on ext2/3 and reiser, xfs and jfs is not working/compiled in atm ...
1128467284 M * Bertl mrec: hmm, lirc is not in the kernel, no?
1128467297 M * mrec ok
1128467305 M * micah Bertl: same for me:
1128467305 M * micah All the tests succeed on ext2/ext3/reiserfs, the following fail:
1128467306 M * micah xfs: 103, 106, 113, 115, 117
1128467306 M * micah jfs: 104, 114, 121, 122, 123, 124
1128467312 M * Bertl mrec: but as I said, it's easy to fix ...
1128467328 M * mrec yes I'll play around with it :)
1128467351 M * Bertl if you need help there, just let me know ... funny that lirc uses the pid though :)
1128467444 M * tuxcapoeira good night!
1128467458 M * mrec ok :)
1128467462 Q * tuxcapoeira Quit: Ex-Chat
1128467462 M * Bertl micah: is it just me, or has the debian kernel/patch some debug output I used back then still there?
1128467524 M * micah I dont understand the question (parse error)
1128467551 M * Bertl when I run the built kernel (I was talking about) I get:
1128467559 M * Bertl ext3_setattr: flags(9f33487c) = 41
1128467565 M * Bertl ext3_setattr: setattr(9f33487c,9f919f30) = 0
1128467571 M * Bertl and similar debug messages
1128467734 M * micah maybe you have some debugging turned on?
1128467772 M * Bertl well, yes, obviously, but I'm pretty sure this is _my_ debugging code :)
1128467809 M * Bertl (and it is not supposed to be in a debian patch :)
1128467825 M * micah heh
1128467831 M * Bertl but maybe I removed it ...
1128467843 M * micah I can look in the actual patch included in the package for it
1128467849 M * micah if you tell me what lines to look for
1128468085 M * Bertl grep plz give the testfs.sh-0.10 a try, it incorporates your changes, but uses -n to supress color codes
1128468093 M * Bertl without 'grep' :)
1128468098 M * Lunar^ micah: Did you follow the syscall # issue?
1128468359 M * Bertl okay, now building the linux-2.6.8-16-vs1.9.5.x-5
1128468580 M * Bertl Hollow: is gentoo bleeding edge by design, or does gentoo support stable vs. devel too? (this is no sarcasm, it's a serious question)
1128468669 M * micah Bertl: where is it?
1128468694 M * micah Lunar^: I haven't, I got sidetracked by my drives dying, and am trying to get back to my feet
1128468813 M * Bertl micah: what? the kernel? the script?
1128468870 M * micah Bertl: the testfs.sh-0.10 you want me to try
1128468937 M * Bertl same place as the others: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/
1128469014 J * serving serving@213.186.177.92
1128469027 M * Bertl welcome serving!
1128469043 M * serving HI ;)
1128469078 M * serving I wonder if anyone upgraded a vserver running fedora 2 to fedorea4 using only yum ?
1128469094 M * Bertl guest or host?
1128469114 P * intrigeri You'll have to find a placebo.
1128469119 M * serving guest 
1128469144 M * Bertl hmm, might work with internal package management
1128469167 M * micah Bertl: hmm, the script is trying to do:
1128469170 M * micah mkfs.ext2 /dev/zero
1128469185 M * Bertl micah: (ad kernel) seems I removed the debug printks in the final patch
1128469187 M * micah when i am invoking it like so:
1128469188 M * micah ./testfs.sh-0.10 v -D /dev/loop4 -M /mnt
1128469210 M * serving Bertl: using rpm only you mean ?
1128469219 M * Bertl micah: hmm, try -v or leave the 'v'
1128469253 M * micah oops
1128469255 M * Bertl serving: no, but with externalized package management it's probably not too yummy :)
1128469272 M * micah not sure how that happened :)
1128469280 M * mrec this lirc setup is stupid
1128469289 M * Bertl micah: copy paste error in the x11 pastebuffer
1128469325 M * serving Bertl: what is the internal package management you have in mind ?
1128469361 M * Bertl serving: util-vserver knows two package management setups
1128469361 M * Bertl - internalized (i.e. package databases are inside the guest)
1128469369 M * micah Bertl: testfs.sh-0.10 looks good!
1128469376 M * Bertl serving: - externalized (package databases are kept ouside, separate dir)
1128469456 M * serving Bertl: i c . yum running from inside the guest vserver is a bad idea bc it relies on remote packaqge list ?
1128469473 M * Bertl might be quite fine, if setup properly
1128469487 M * Bertl (similar to a normal linux system)
1128469500 M * serving i ll test it on an expandable vserver then. Thanx :)
1128469507 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1128469522 M * Bertl micah: jfs and xfs are broken on debian (regarding barrier)
1128469562 M * Bertl xfs: 103-106, 113-115,117,122,124
1128469578 M * Bertl jfs: 104,114,121-124
1128469591 M * Bertl now, what do the tests mean:
1128469674 M * Bertl 103 verifies with showattr that the previously set barrier is shown
1128469697 M * Bertl 104 verifies that the 'normal' attributes are correct (lsattr)
1128469716 M * Bertl 106 tests access protection of the barrier
1128469755 M * Bertl 113 = 103, 114 = 104, just after remount
1128469771 J * Sonarman ~cleetus@adsl-64-160-166-155.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
1128469782 M * Bertl welcome Sonarman!
1128469787 M * Bertl micah: 115 tries to link to an unified file
1128469823 M * Bertl 117 verifies iunlinkability
1128469885 M * micah Bertl: odd, for me I get these failures with xfs: 103, 106, 113, 115, 117
1128469905 M * Bertl which tools?
1128469907 M * micah I dont see 122 and 124 failures
1128469934 M * micah not .208
1128469944 M * micah 0.30.204-5sarge2
1128469953 M * Bertl well, that probably explains the differences
1128470023 M * micah I can test to verify
1128470052 M * Bertl that would be good, as I have no sarge tools at hand right now
1128470066 M * micah installing .208
1128470106 M * Bertl should I try to fix the xfs issues in the debian version?
1128470135 M * micah odd, if I use .208 I get: vcontext: vc_create_context(): Function not implemented
1128470139 M * micah errors all over the place
1128470151 M * Bertl (or should I save the time for something else?)
1128470155 Q * Sonarman_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1128470169 M * Bertl micah: maybe the syscall issue Lunar^ was referring to?
1128470176 M * micah Bertl: lets wait until we have a full picture to figure out what the best plan is
1128470187 M * Bertl k, np
1128470214 M * micah could be... I think the 208-2 package was compiled with gcc4.0, but the kernel patch was compiled with 3.3.
1128470231 M * Bertl what arch you're on?
1128470236 M * micah i386
1128470246 M * Bertl and what does vserver-info - SYSINFO say?
1128470260 M * micah       vserver(2) syscall#: 273/glibc
1128470274 M * micah                    VS-API: 0x00010025
1128470297 M * Bertl hmm, is the debian gcc 4.0 that broken?
1128470328 M * Bertl try to do: "strace -fF chcontext --xid 42 true"
1128470345 M * micah what should I look for?
1128470355 M * Bertl upload it somewhere, plz!
1128470359 M * micah on moment