1126828857 M * gndmstr this is what i am using 1126828860 M * gndmstr util-vserver 0.30.208-r2 1126828860 M * gndmstr libvserver 0.2.1 1126828860 M * gndmstr kernel vserver-sources-2.1.0_pre5 1126828941 M * gndmstr actually im not using libvserver.. i remember now. i never put it in not knowing whether it went into the host or the guest 1126828961 M * gndmstr if in the guest its probably in there since i used hollow's stage3 off his dev site 1126828964 M * Bertl it is for future development, so not used right now 1126828970 M * gndmstr ok 1126829001 M * gndmstr do i have the '2.1' you mentioned then? i see the kernel is 2.1, what about the utils 1126829044 M * Bertl yes, 2.1.0-pre5 is 2.1 :) 1126829057 M * Bertl utils are fine ... 1126829084 M * gndmstr ok good so then i can continue in my quest for new ways to break a test system :) 1126829095 M * Bertl yeah, go ahead :) 1126829100 M * gndmstr thank you 1126829110 M * gndmstr going to make several pots of coffee first 1126829116 M * gndmstr will need them all i fear 1126829126 M * mnemoc Bertl: porting 2.0 to 2.6.13 (adding the three 2.6.13 specific patches you added FOR-2.0.1) is 'backporting'? 1126829146 Q * gndmstr Remote host closed the connection 1126829175 M * daniel_hozac forwardporting ;) 1126829182 M * Bertl mnemoc: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.13-vs2.0.1-pre2.diff ? 1126829220 M * mnemoc ok :) 1126829455 J * MooingLemur ~troy@shells200.pinchaser.com 1126829476 M * Bertl wb MooingLemur! 1126829919 M * nayco Bertl: This week-end, I gonna try to understand how vserver-build work, hoping that I can figure out how to use it with urpmi... For the quotas, is there anything else we can do ? 1126829928 M * nayco works 1126829954 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@static-70-110-70-237.tampfl.fios.verizon.net 1126830014 Q * nayco_laptop Remote host closed the connection 1126830034 M * Bertl nayco: I guess not ... 1126830107 M * nayco Ok. the best thing would be to talk to the author of quota tolls, but if you say he does not really want to modify the tools... 1126830177 M * Bertl don't worry about this too much ... maybe the vroot will be obsoleted sooner than you'd expect ... 1126830192 M * nayco ...I hope so :P !!! 1126830205 M * nayco When do you think that will occur ? 1126830623 M * Aiken_ it has taken well over an hour to reply but hello Bertl 1126830724 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126830828 M * Bertl nayco: it's not really on my todo list right now .. so no estimations ... but it might happen on the way ... 1126831010 M * nayco Ok. Anyway, linux-vservers are great work :) ! 1126831021 M * nayco Ok, good night, see you later ! 1126831063 M * Bertl thanks! goof night! 1126831066 Q * nayco Quit: Bonne nuit ! 1126831066 M * Bertl *good 1126831931 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1126831932 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1126831936 N * _mcp mcp 1126832108 Q * azazel Quit: Client exiting 1126832255 Q * dddd44 arion.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1126832341 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@static-70-110-70-237.tampfl.fios.verizon.net 1126832374 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now .. have a nice whatever everyone ... cya later 1126832381 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1126832655 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126834785 J * hwarrier ~harikb@64.161.133.227 1126834893 J * Louis ~Louis@modemcable048.11-37-24.mc.videotron.ca 1126834910 J * gndmstr ~gndmstr@ip1.pathworx.sbbsnet.net 1126834913 P * Louis 1126834946 M * gndmstr how can i get rid of a Ui attribute on a file? i need to delete it and it wont let me 1126834991 M * gndmstr actually its on a hard link 1126836463 M * gndmstr i goofed with the setattr --iunlink and wound up doing a directory i didnt want to 1126836868 Q * gndmstr Remote host closed the connection 1126837039 Q * fluor- Remote host closed the connection 1126837789 Q * hwarrier Quit: 1126839839 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1126840517 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.58 1126840544 Q * mnemoc Read error: Operation timed out 1126840544 N * menomc mnemoc 1126840949 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow) 1126841112 J * gndmstr ~gndmstr@ip1.pathworx.sbbsnet.net 1126841209 M * gndmstr i just copied my template into 3 other vservers using hard link cloning along with copying real files into the etc and var. they run ok however I now get an error on start I never got before. I hope I didn't goof using the setattr command. error listed next 1126841215 M * gndmstr davin etc # /etc/init.d/vservers start 1126841216 M * gndmstr * Starting all vservers ... 1126841216 M * gndmstr chroot-shopen("/etc/mtab"): Permission denied 1126841216 M * gndmstr secure-mount: open(): Permission denied 1126841217 M * gndmstr Failed to update mtab-file 1126841217 M * gndmstr secure-mount: open(): Permission denied 1126841218 M * gndmstr Failed to update mtab-file 1126841219 M * gndmstr secure-mount: open(): Permission denied 1126841219 M * gndmstr Failed to update mtab-file 1126842299 Q * gndmstr Remote host closed the connection 1126844598 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax8-225.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1126844944 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126845562 P * click [IRSSI] 1126847278 J * click click@ti511110a080-3225.bb.online.no 1126847312 P * click 1126847901 J * click click@ti511110a080-3225.bb.online.no 1126848192 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126849220 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126849856 N * pusling_ pusling 1126850449 J * RedSpy max@pD9535FB4.dip.t-dialin.net 1126850490 M * RedSpy Good morning, my vserver-wise split personalities... :P 1126851103 Q * eyck Quit: leaving 1126851250 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1126852855 J * dddd44 dhb55@219.95.196.46 1126852944 Q * dddd44 Quit: 1126853827 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126854234 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1126854560 J * vip-vs ~vince@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com 1126854601 M * vip-vs hi folks! 1126855503 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1126855931 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1126856447 J * witchdoc ~witchdoc@d463c194.datahighways.de 1126856451 M * witchdoc hello all 1126856950 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1126856993 M * witchdoc hi prae 1126857007 M * prae hi witch' 1126858511 M * witchdoc have someone an idea for my "mobile" vserver on my laptop. i use the dummy interface but if i want more outside network (linke eth0 oder wlan) i must switch the device in the config... 1126858632 M * witchdoc i thought about an bridge ... so i put the dummy0 into the bridge an the active interface ... maybe ips into the bridge is a no-no 1126859817 M * maharaja_ did any1 of you ever build an amd64 image? 1126859832 M * maharaja_ to be more specific: 1126859842 M * maharaja_ an debian amd64 (pure64) vserver guest system 1126859863 M * maharaja_ my kernel is up and running, but im kind of stuck with debootstrap 1126860284 M * witchdoc hi maharaja_ , no i dont have an amd64 maschine :-/ 1126861067 M * RedSpy maharaja -- maybe simply use netfilter/iptables/masquerading?!? 1126861259 J * cg ~cg@cpe.atm2-0-1011085.0x50c67b02.kd4nxx11.customer.tele.dk 1126861359 M * cg I'm having problems compiling mysql-4.0.25 on a gentoo guest on a gentoo host 1126861417 M * cg i get this error "/usr/include/fcntl.h:-19173: internal compiler error: segmentation fault" 1126861438 M * cg does any one know whats wrong?? 1126861533 M * witchdoc hi cg 1126862009 M * vip-vs hi cg 1126862084 M * witchdoc what version of vserver-patch and utils do you use cg? 1126862206 M * maharaja_ ok - done that amd64 thing 1126862316 M * vip-vs when doing "./configure --prefix=/ --sysconfdir=/etc --with-vrootdir=/home/vservers --with-initrddir=/etc/init.d --localstatedir=/var" /proc/sys/kernel/vshelper allways has the wrong path ...any idea how to resolve this ? 1126862353 M * cg witchdoc: i use util-vserver-0.30.205 and 4910_vs2.0.patch 1126862367 M * maharaja_ what 1126862374 M * maharaja_ what do i need those patches for? 1126862416 M * witchdoc cp the utils are a bit outdate ... 0.30.208 fix2 is actual 1126862417 M * vip-vs 0.30.205? I was told to use 0.30.208 ... to get rid of some headachs :) 1126862444 M * maharaja_ what does fix2 do? 1126862447 M * witchdoc jepp, frist step is to use new tools 1126862482 M * witchdoc maharaja_: the fixes are patches from bertl agains the utils, it thing the fix some broken things ... 1126862500 M * witchdoc i think ;-) 1126862502 M * maharaja_ witchdoc: where do i get those patches from? 1126862512 M * witchdoc moment .... 1126862587 M * maharaja_ ah - http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/ 1126862625 M * maharaja_ pretty big fix 1126862631 M * maharaja_ whats up with enrico? 1126862636 M * vip-vs maharaja: do you know if this source: http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/util-vserver-0.30.208.tar.gz is already patched? 1126862655 M * maharaja_ no, i dont 1126862666 M * witchdoc no http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/patch-0.30.208-fix02.diff 1126862679 M * witchdoc look at http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/ 1126862681 M * vip-vs I allway patch it to be sure ... but order of links on that page make me unsure 1126862686 M * maharaja_ withdoc: do you know anything about those patches? 1126862689 M * maharaja_ whats working and what is not? 1126862764 M * witchdoc no ... i search a bit .. 1126862899 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-010.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1126863072 M * witchdoc maharaja_: hmm i dont find an log/readme.... i read about the fix1 and fix2 in the mailinglist 1126863214 Q * Aiken__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126863318 M * witchdoc cya folks 1126863324 Q * witchdoc Quit: bye 1126863674 M * vip-vs marahaja: I used fix02 on the 0.30.208 sources .. and it seems to work for me 1126864744 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0, 2.0.1-pre2, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0-pre7 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1126864744 T * Bertl - 1126864931 J * michal ~michal@81.223.254.85 1126865102 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1126865109 J * click click@ti511110a080-3225.bb.online.no 1126865124 J * SNy e72067a0f4@bmx-chemnitz.de 1126865137 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1126865137 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1126866559 J * gndmstr ~gndmstr@ip1.pathworx.sbbsnet.net 1126867231 Q * Aiken__ Quit: Leaving 1126869759 A * gndmstr is away: for breakfast 1126870409 M * gndmstr . 1126870685 Q * gndmstr Remote host closed the connection 1126870716 J * gndmstr ~gndmstr@ip1.pathworx.sbbsnet.net 1126870778 M * gndmstr anyone awake yet? created a situation i dont know how to fix 1126870898 A * Hollow seems kinda awake 1126870942 M * gndmstr hehe maybe some coffee first then... not sure about there, but here its only 7:42 1126870981 M * gndmstr i also placed this into the mailing list... created some clones of the template using hard links. they seem to work fine but i get an error on start i never got before 1126870984 M * Hollow 1:43 pm here 1126871006 M * gndmstr sounds like germany or netherland areas 1126871014 M * Hollow just got back from school though.. so have to wake up first :P 1126871018 M * Hollow yep 1126871021 M * Hollow germany 1126871022 M * gndmstr hehe 1126871023 M * gndmstr cool 1126871055 M * gndmstr will paste the error and maybe in a little bit you can get your brain around it :) 1126871061 M * gndmstr davin etc # /etc/init.d/vservers start 1126871061 M * gndmstr * Starting all vservers ... 1126871062 M * gndmstr chroot-shopen("/etc/mtab"): Permission denied 1126871062 M * gndmstr secure-mount: open(): Permission denied 1126871063 M * gndmstr Failed to update mtab-file 1126871063 M * gndmstr secure-mount: open(): Permission denied 1126871064 M * gndmstr Failed to update mtab-file 1126871064 M * gndmstr secure-mount: open(): Permission denied 1126871065 M * gndmstr Failed to update mtab-file 1126871085 M * gndmstr i suspect i goofed and somehow included my /etc in the setattr 1126871098 M * Hollow i.e. you're using tagxid? 1126871119 M * gndmstr sorry. dont know what that is. im totally new to vservers 1126871134 M * Hollow ok.. so you probably don't use it ;) 1126871145 M * gndmstr im using v 2.1 of the vserver system 1126871146 M * Hollow lemme dig into util-vserver code first 1126871184 M * gndmstr take your time. the vservers appear to work but even that isnt necessary as this is only a test bed 1126871229 M * gndmstr i sent you an email also not about the error but outlining the procedures i used to create the clones to see if there was something i missed 1126871250 M * Hollow hm... i wonder where chroot-shopen() is.. 1126871257 M * Hollow even google doesn't know 1126871261 J * sannes ~ace@simula-dhcp-084.simula.no 1126871299 M * gndmstr not sure. i used the gentoo vserver init script to start it.. but i get the same error starting an individual server with vserver guest start 1126871303 M * daniel_hozac chroot-sh's open()? 1126871336 M * daniel_hozac gndmstr: what is /etc/mtab in the vserver? 1126871338 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: well, but where does the error message come from..? 1126871381 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: src/chroot-sh.c? 1126871415 M * Hollow hm.. either grep or I am too dump then 1126871440 M * daniel_hozac it's util-vserver. preprocessor magic will screw you and grep over multiple times :) 1126871446 M * Hollow or just the thousand wrappers hide it somewhere :P 1126871452 M * Hollow heh 1126871473 M * gndmstr here it is vsdavin1 / # cat etc/mtab 1126871478 M * gndmstr /dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0 1126871478 M * gndmstr none /proc proc defaults 0 0 1126871478 M * gndmstr none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1126871479 M * gndmstr none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 1126871534 M * gndmstr i thought that error was generated by the host /etc/mtab though.. maybe not 1126871536 M * daniel_hozac showattr /vservers/.../etc/mtab ? 1126871554 M * daniel_hozac chroot-sh == change root and do shell stuff, as in, executed in the guest. 1126871620 M * gndmstr interesting 1126871631 M * gndmstr the template the clones are linked to shows this 1126871634 M * gndmstr ----UI- mtab 1126871656 M * gndmstr yet the clone mtab shows this 1126871658 M * gndmstr ----ui- /vservers/vsdavin2/etc/mtab 1126871680 M * gndmstr now at first i made a huge mistake and ran setattr on a linked clone etc 1126871698 M * gndmstr after i got rid of that i copied a real etc into each clone to give real files 1126871812 M * gndmstr so now i only run setattr on the *bins and *libs in the clone and remove and copy real files for etc var home and root 1126871835 M * Hollow unfortunately i did not try unification yet... 1126871838 M * daniel_hozac you shouldn't need to run setattr on each clone you make, i think. 1126871854 M * gndmstr im not using vserver cloning 1126871864 M * gndmstr im using cp -la gemplate/* newguest 1126871874 M * daniel_hozac i would assume attributes are per inode, so a hardlink would be sufficient. 1126871912 M * gndmstr then once i got the clone, bert said to run setattr --iunlink on the binary and lib directories in the clones 1126872002 M * daniel_hozac well, it shouldn't matter, but i think the setattr post hardlinking is redundant. 1126872028 M * daniel_hozac anyway, what does ls -l /vservers/.../etc/mtab have to say? 1126872052 M * gndmstr i know nothing about it. this is my first experience with hard linking.. he said it enabled the 2.1 break/copy feature or something 1126872083 M * gndmstr davin etc # cat mtab 1126872084 M * gndmstr /dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0 1126872085 M * gndmstr none /proc proc defaults 0 0 1126872085 M * gndmstr none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1126872085 M * gndmstr none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 1126872099 M * daniel_hozac can you write to it from the guest? 1126872113 M * gndmstr lemme check 1126872128 M * daniel_hozac are you sure that is the problem vserver? 1126872152 M * daniel_hozac maybe it's the template the init script is trying to start? 1126872154 M * gndmstr yes 1126872160 M * gndmstr im thinking so 1126872166 M * gndmstr ill go to the template 1126872183 M * daniel_hozac the template is immutable, so it would make sense... 1126872184 M * gndmstr i think those files got changed when i goofed with the setattr on the etc in a clone 1126872205 M * gndmstr im not linking etc 1126872213 M * gndmstr im copying real files into each clone etc 1126872239 M * daniel_hozac does Gentoo's init script only start "mark"ed vservers? 1126872273 M * gndmstr dont know.. hollow would be the one to know that more than I 1126872284 M * gndmstr and no i cannot write to the template mtab 1126872304 M * gndmstr how do i clear those bits in the template? 1126872307 M * daniel_hozac so it is trying to start the template. 1126872309 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: yep, it does, it has an option to specifiy single vservers which are not handled by vserver-start) 1126872312 M * gndmstr for now yes 1126872318 M * gndmstr normally i wont be running the template 1126872337 M * daniel_hozac setattr --~iunlink /vservers/