1126656046 M * Bertl so this basically ensures that proc 'should' be mounted correctly ... as it is not, I'd suggest to update the tools and try again
1126656066 M * misko isn't it gonna be a suicide?
1126656082 M * misko the vserver from sarge works for all debian vservers
1126656098 M * Bertl no, not really, just fetch them, configure them properly, build and isntall them
1126656100 M * misko and i really do not want to get rid of my working systems at 2am
1126656154 M * Bertl misko: okay, but I'm not willing to debug debian issues here, you have to bug the debian folks with that unless you _know_ that it happens with mainline tools ...
1126656173 M * misko http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_release/v1.2.10/util-vserver-0.30.tar.bz2 ?
1126656196 M * Bertl I can suggest to use 'vserver --debug old start' to check what it does
1126656203 M * maharaja Bertl: i know that im kind of enoying - but im not getting anywhere
1126656207 M * maharaja without your help :)
1126656223 M * Bertl misko: you want the 0.30.208 tools + fix02 patch
1126656258 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/ (as you already have a newstyle setup)
1126656278 M * misko 2.0 works with 2.4 kernel?
1126656288 M * Bertl maharaja: cable is plugged in, correct ports and such?
1126656299 M * Bertl misko: no, but the tools (0.30.208 will)
1126656329 M * misko ok
1126656331 M * misko going for it
1126656332 M * Bertl 0.30 are the stable tools, they do not know the newstyle setup/config
1126656338 M * maharaja yes - otherwise i would not get any msgs from the vserver system - wont i?
1126656346 M * maharaja would i even :)
1126656355 M * Bertl maharaja: and you are getting some right now?
1126656402 M * Bertl maharaja: let's call the minicom host 'controller' and the server host 'server', k?
1126656431 M * Bertl maharaja: so you have edited the inittab on the server and issued a telinit Q ?
1126656453 M * Bertl (or on the controller?)
1126656512 M * Bertl misko: you might want to remove hardware related services with the chkconfig, like the networking and firewall stuff
1126656529 M * misko but will it fix my problem?
1126656541 M * misko now i'm messing with e2fsprogs
1126656563 Q * prae Quit: Pwet
1126656578 M * Bertl misko: you might also want to adjust the etc/resolv.conf to point to a real resolver or leave it empty, and add the host name/ip to the /etc/hosts (www-mkcr <ip>)
1126656606 M * maharaja yes, i did change the inittab on the server and did telinit Q on the server
1126656611 M * misko ok that's just fine tuning, i just need to start the vserver, dump postgresql database and rm -fr the server afterwards
1126656615 M * maharaja Bertl: should i excpet any messages?
1126656640 M * Bertl misko: okay, but postgres might require this 'fine tuning' :)
1126656668 M * misko postres sucks.
1126656708 M * Bertl maharaja: you should ether get a message in the server's logs stating that the service is respawning too fast (the s0) or a logon message via minicom (if it is connected/configured properly)
1126656730 M * Bertl misko: no, 'your' postgres setup/config sucks :)
1126656838 M * misko my vserver `everything` sucks
1126656841 M * maharaja Bertl: ok, i had no mgetty installed
1126656846 M * maharaja so its working now
1126656846 M * misko make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/util-vserver-0.30'
1126656864 M * maharaja minicom is still stating "offline"
1126656879 M * Bertl misko: 0.30? that are the old/stable tools ...
1126656891 M * maharaja but the magicsysrq is working :)
1126656905 M * Bertl misko: they will work too, but not with the newstyle config
1126656915 M * misko aaah fuck
1126656917 M * maharaja Bertl: at least im getting the help screen
1126656930 M * misko bash just forgot to <tab>-complete the sentence ;)
1126656930 M * Bertl maharaja: good, try to dump the cpu or registers
1126656971 M * Bertl maharaja: and, does minicom show it as online now?
1126657162 Q * maharaja Read error: Connection reset by peer
1126657234 M * misko is the .204 version so old?
1126657275 J * maharaja maharaja@ip52.ipax.at
1126657324 M * misko ok
1126657328 M * misko 208 installed
1126657331 M * misko with the 02 fix
1126657447 M * misko ww-mkcr:/usr/local/src/util-vserver-0.30.208# /sbin/vserver --version
1126657447 M * misko vserver 0.30.208 -- manages the state of vservers
1126657447 M * misko This program is part of util-vserver 0.30.208
1126657539 M * misko and ... finally
1126657543 M * misko the same shit happens :-(
1126657581 M * maharaja re
1126657660 M * maharaja Bertl: magic sysreq is working
1126657667 M * maharaja just tried the "term" thing ;)
1126657729 M * maharaja but im not getting any output
1126657857 M * Bertl misko: define 'same shit happens'
1126657872 M * misko same problem with /proc.
1126657873 M * Bertl maharaja: what do you mean by 'not getting any output'?
1126657875 M * misko no change.
1126657894 M * Bertl misko: where does your config tree come from?
1126657915 M * misko from a workiing guest
1126657934 M * Bertl okay, let's redo that properly ... I'll explain how:
1126657953 M * Bertl you have a 'temporary' ip for that guest?
1126657971 M * misko yes
1126657983 J * neverdies spear@80.64.143.53
1126657986 M * neverdies re
1126657988 Q * neverdies Quit: 
1126658042 J * maharaja_ spear@ip52.ipax.at
1126658044 M * maharaja_ re again :)
1126658071 M * misko ok i've done the fine-tuning
1126658071 M * Bertl misko: vserver old2 build -m skeleton --hostname www-mkcr --interface hansi=eth0:<your-ip> --context 42
1126658080 M * maharaja_ Bertl: i'm getting incomplete output
1126658095 M * maharaja_ main: SysRq : Show Regs
1126658099 M * maharaja_ and nothing follow
1126658101 M * maharaja_ s
1126658123 M * Bertl misko: after that, copy over the /dev entries from old2 to old (removing the /dev there) and then exchange the directories (old <-> old2)
1126658126 M * maharaja_ only dmesg is showing output
1126658132 M * maharaja_ do i have to configure metalog any special way?
1126658158 M * Bertl maharaja_: check how many minicoms/*ttys ae using /dev/ttyS0 on the controller
1126658214 M * misko old: mv dev dev.oldold
1126658216 M * Bertl i.e. (use fuser /dev/ttyS0 and get rid of everything except your minicom)
1126658228 M * misko copied /dev from old2 to old
1126658238 M * maharaja_ only 1 ip
1126658240 M * misko then exchange which directories?
1126658241 M * maharaja_ äh
1126658243 M * maharaja_ pid
1126658247 M * maharaja_ (minicom)
1126658258 M * Bertl misko: mv old2 old2.old
1126658265 M * Bertl misko: mv old old2
1126658281 M * Bertl (stop the guest first :)
1126658311 M * Bertl misko: then start with 'vserver old2 start'
1126658329 M * misko :-))
1126658333 M * misko just 'a bit' craz
1126658334 M * misko y
1126658335 M * misko ok
1126658367 M * maharaja_ Bertl: no further programs use ttyS0
1126658371 M * maharaja_ minicom is still offline
1126658376 M * maharaja_ but im able to login
1126658388 M * maharaja_ dmesg has more entries than minicom receives via the serial console
1126658389 M * Bertl okay, check the hardware handshake ...
1126658410 M * Bertl maharaja_: I suspect your cable is as flakey as the server ...
1126658414 M * misko bertl: you just mean to mv old vdir to old, true?
1126658433 M * misko not anything different
1126658452 M * Bertl I mean you exchange the old and old2 dirs
1126658462 M * misko in /etc/vservers or in /var/lib/vservers
1126658470 M * Bertl in /var/lib/vservers
1126658474 M * misko ok
1126658490 M * Bertl so that your guest data resides in /var/lib/vservers/old2
1126658492 M * misko done
1126658512 M * Bertl with the 'newly created' /dev entries from the previous old2
1126658521 M * misko yy
1126658528 M * Bertl k, now start the guest
1126658531 M * misko vserver started saying 127.0.0.1 already in use
1126658532 M * maharaja_ Bertl: im almost falling of the chair - hopefully ill catch you tomorrow
1126658536 M * maharaja_ thank you for all your help!
1126658540 M * maharaja_ gn8
1126658547 M * Bertl misko: 127.0.0.1 isn't a temporary ip :)
1126658556 M * misko i used 192.168.0.100
1126658566 M * Bertl so where does the 127.0.0.1 come from?
1126658587 M * misko dunno... maybe redhat's networking script
1126658594 M * Bertl which you disabled?
1126658601 M * misko not yet ;)
1126658610 M * Bertl okay, so it comes from inside the guest?
1126658616 M * Bertl (if so, that's fine)
1126658617 M * misko yes, probably
1126658631 M * Bertl okay, enter the guest (with vserver old2 enter)
1126658639 M * misko www-mkcr:/etc/vservers# /sbin/vserver old2 start
1126658639 M * misko Startuji systémový logger:                                 [  OK  ]
1126658639 M * misko Startuji logovacího démona jádra:                          [  OK  ]
1126658639 M * misko Starting sshd:                                             [  OK  ]
1126658639 M * misko Startuji httpd: Warning: DocumentRoot [/home/mkcr.cz/www] does not exist
1126658639 M * misko Warning: DocumentRoot [/home/mkcr.cz/files] does not exist
1126658639 M * Bertl and check for /proc
1126658641 M * misko Warning: DocumentRoot [/home/mkcr.cz/redaktor] does not exist
1126658641 M * misko Warning: DocumentRoot [/home/mkcr.cz/old] does not exist
1126658643 M * misko                                                            [  OK  ]
1126658643 M * misko Starting postgresql service:                               [  OK  ]
1126658645 M * misko Startuji crond:                                            [  OK  ]
1126658645 M * misko Startuji anacron:                                          [  OK  ]
1126658647 M * misko www-mkcr:/etc/vservers# Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql
1126658660 M * misko [root@www-mkcr /]# ls -l /proc/ | wc -l
1126658660 M * misko      64
1126658667 M * Bertl looks good :)
1126658685 M * misko okay, what is the address for sending bottles of beer?
1126658687 M * Bertl now for an explanation, because I guess I figured by now what went wrong ...
1126658705 M * Bertl you 'copied' the entire config directory to a new name, right?
1126658719 M * misko yes
1126658738 M * Bertl but this config contains a few symlinks to the guest's dirs
1126658753 M * misko yes, but i've edited _all_ of them
1126658763 M * Bertl and in your old config (you might verify that) the symlinks are probably wrong ...
1126658775 M * misko bash-2.05a$ pg_dump -Ft -b ces > db-current.tar
1126658779 M * misko aah what a feeling
1126658822 M * misko ok differences between old and old2
1126658842 M * Bertl regarding bottles of beer: http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/donate/
1126658853 M * misko old2 does not contain the apps/pkgmgmt dir
1126658882 M * misko old2/interfaces/name exists and contains "hansi" string
1126658905 M * misko old/interfaces/name 404
1126658928 M * misko old2/uts/nodename contains www-mkcr, old/uts/nodename does not exist
1126658938 M * misko no other differences.
1126658947 M * misko vdir symlink was always ok
1126658990 M * misko --
1126658993 M * misko -- MARK --
1126658995 M * misko VServer developers often pay a lot to have access to the internet or to host their development or web servers, therefore providing connectivity, hosting or development space could help.
1126659014 M * misko i can help with some housing or connectivity
1126659032 M * misko or rent some rackspace for free
1126659070 M * Bertl okay, leave me some contact information in private, I'll come back to you ...
1126659103 M * misko ok, /msg or mail?
1126659162 M * Bertl whatever you prefer :)
1126659186 M * misko what's your email address?
1126659221 M * Bertl herbert@13thfloor.at
1126659275 M * misko ok i'm gonn drop a line;)
1126659293 M * Bertl TIA!
1126659402 M * Bertl misko: btw, the 'canonical' approach to migrate a real machine to a guest is like this (for the next time): 
1126659433 M * Bertl - create a skeleton config (as above) with all interface/hostname/whatever data required
1126659460 M * Bertl - copy over the real machine data except /dev and /proc
1126659471 M * Bertl - start the guest, enter it and clean up the services
1126659492 M * misko ok mail sent
1126659510 M * misko okay i'll copy this to my internal documentation
1126660043 M * misko good, database is exported and being imported to the new debianized vserver
1126660046 M * RedSpy Noobish question: Do I have to expect anything evil when booting a kernel 2.6.12.6 patched with the current stable patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0?
1126660096 M * Bertl I don't think so .. the 'sucker' tree changes .4 to .6 are bugfixes only, so not much changes there (jsut fixup the EXTRAVERSION)
1126660123 M * Bertl RedSpy: I assume they applied quite fine except for the Makefile
1126660137 M * RedSpy Thanks :)
1126660165 M * RedSpy yes, no warings/errors/whatsoever
1126660346 M * misko ok, bertl thanks and good night
1126660361 M * Bertl misko: you're welcome! and have a good one too!
1126660390 Q * misko Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.2 -- Are we there yet?
1126662302 Q * mountie Remote host closed the connection
1126662512 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1126662782 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-212.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1126662839 Q * ag-2 Quit: leaving
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1126663154 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126663590 Q * RedSpy Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126665208 J * RedSpy max@pD9537542.dip.t-dialin.net
1126665884 Q * alexx Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126666968 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1126667829 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126668678 J * litage ~nick@203.201.98.28
1126668705 M * Bertl wb alexx, litage, RedSpy :)
1126668726 M * RedSpy :)
1126668829 M * litage thanks Bertl. what's cookin
1126668850 M * Bertl toas atm :)
1126668853 M * Bertl *toast
1126668877 M * litage ah that's right, it's the morning for you now  =P
1126668897 M * Bertl yes, and I'll be off to bed soon :)
1126669003 M * litage oh you mean it's morning as in <5am?
1126669016 M * RedSpy Thanks again, Bertl! My first VServer host & guest systems are up and running straight forward -- amazing.  I was afraid doing it on a root-server without rescue system.
1126669054 M * Bertl litage: well, it's 5:30am here ... but 5-8am is my usual bed time :)
1126669072 M * litage hahah why's that
1126669093 M * Bertl RedSpy: glad that you like it! you might consider adding yourself to the Happy Users or Providers page on the wiki
1126669121 M * Bertl litage: I'm nocturnal *G*
1126669208 M * RedSpy I'd love to.  One last hint before you go to bed, please: Any chance getting unix domain sockets "talking" inter-vserver-ly?
1126669251 M * Bertl hmm, interesting request ... we try hard to prohibit that, for what purpose would you need it?
1126669257 M * RedSpy *duck&cover*
1126669295 M * RedSpy MySQL, but dummy network device works fine as well.
1126669341 M * Bertl ah, ic ... yeah, and should not add overhead either ...
1126671467 M * RedSpy 06:20 CEST, time to take a nap, good night. :)
1126671470 Q * RedSpy Quit: 
1126671516 M * Aiken_ Bertl early you told someone to use telinit q, I always use init q
1126671521 M * Aiken_ is there any difference?
1126671683 M * Bertl Aiken_: no, it's basically the same binary ..
1126671734 M * Bertl (but see man telinit for details :)
1126671768 M * Aiken_ same man page as for init
1126671837 M * Aiken_ the real init's process id is always 1.  From this it  fol-
1126671837 M * Aiken_        lows that instead of calling telinit one can also just use init instead
1126671837 M * Aiken_        as a shortcut
1126671865 M * Aiken_ so probably no difference
1126672134 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126672246 M * Bertl Aiken_: yes, but the init is always 1 is an assumption which a) makes linux-vserver life harder than necessary and b) is not what the original author had in mind :)
1126672371 M * Bertl Aiken_: doesn't mean you can not use it as it is now :)
1126672553 M * Aiken_ that leads to something I have wondered, can init + inittab be used in a vserver?
1126672584 M * Bertl yes, of course, we are doing pid virtualization to make this happen
1126672595 M * Aiken_ in the past I have used software that liked dying but really should have run 24x7 so I have used inittab to make sure a copy is always running
1126672603 M * Bertl (would not be necessary if init would not insist on pid=1)
1126672635 M * Aiken_ might explain --fakeinit
1126672667 M * Bertl it's more complex than it seems (at first glance)
1126672679 M * Bertl we actually support 3(4) modes
1126672690 M * Bertl - no init, no pid 1
1126672705 M * Bertl - blend through host init (fake init)
1126672723 M * Bertl - real init running with pid != 1 mapped to pid=1
1126672733 M * Bertl (-) real init with pid != 1
1126672938 J * litage ~nick@203.201.98.247
1126672986 M * Aiken_ so the choices are 1. no init functionality 2. I am not sure about, 3 magic with pid numbers and 4 a modified init
1126673083 M * Bertl yep, 2 is mainly useful for things like pstree ...
1126673098 M * Bertl (which simply assume that init is @ pid=1 :(
1126673357 M * Aiken_ in that case would a modified pstree be easier?
1126673894 M * Bertl well, the blend through is not so problematic as the pid mapping 
1126673922 M * Bertl and to be honest, it's not tragic either, just sometimes confusing
1126674901 M * Bertl k, I'm off to bed now ... have a nice whatever everyone!
1126674910 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1126678426 J * click click@ti511110a080-3225.bb.online.no
1126678954 J * wam ~wigwam@p549CDB5B.dip.t-dialin.net
1126679023 M * wam Hi! When I compile Hard CPU Limits into the kernel, is "sched_prio" in flags also still available or will I have to use "sched_hard"?
1126679053 M * wam And: Can I mix sched_prio and sched_hard vservers?
1126680702 P * wam 
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1126682979 J * Blogmeister ~Blogmeist@site.lycos.de
1126683088 P * Blogmeister 
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1126684020 J * vip-vs ~vip-vs@cc521104-d.ensch1.ov.home.nl
1126684120 M * vip-vs hi, can somebody tell me why i might need: patch-0.30.208-fix02.diff  Google does not seem to know ;)
1126684342 J * litage ~nick@203.201.98.200
1126689402 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net
1126689663 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: I am not sure why, but without fix02 the util-vserver does not work on my ibook.
1126689942 M * vip-vs I'm kinda new to this whole linux-vserver stuff ... mayby it is on the linux-vserver website, but I sure couldn't find it...
1126690001 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: I am new to vserver too, I have been told to use fix02 right on this channel.
1126690079 M * vip-vs yeah .. I found this suggestion in the IRC logs ... but the howto I'm currently following, doesn't mention it:  http://www.debianhowto.de/de:howtos:sarge:linux-vserver
1126690122 M * vip-vs what distro is installed on your ibook?
1126690232 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: Debian
1126690255 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: Let me have a look the howto.
1126690305 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: Oops, what language is that, I can not read it.
1126690322 M * vip-vs ow :)  it's German
1126690341 M * vip-vs I'm luckily can read German :D
1126690444 M * vip-vs I read the howto before I started with it and I think it looks OK, but I don't know what consequence this will have for keeping Vserver up2date when a new version is released
1126690488 M * vip-vs Debian provides simple updating/upgrading and when I build from scratch, I suspect updating will not be that easy....
1126690559 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: I am using debian packages
1126690569 M * vip-vs you do?
1126690576 M * vip-vs what vserver version ?
1126690579 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: But the package is rebuilt by myself
1126690595 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: official kernal-patch-vserver
1126690616 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: rebuilt util-vserver+02fix myself
1126690635 M * vip-vs ok, what kernel version?
1126690648 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126690688 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: linux-source-2.6.12
1126690720 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: use kernel-package to apply the patch and build the kernel-image package
1126690721 M * vip-vs ok .. that's another option building the packages myself ...
1126690746 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: I am lazy, so I choose debian way to build that..
1126690756 M * vip-vs I'm lazy too :D
1126690790 M * vip-vs but since I'm trying for a while now.. I choose to follow the full howto :)
1126690868 M * vip-vs and probable it goes wrong everytime with the util-vserver package...
1126690913 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: on sarge?
1126690918 M * vip-vs yep
1126690948 M * vip-vs see my posts on the maillinglist: Vserver newbie question from yesterday
1126691063 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: which mailing list?
1126691078 M * vip-vs the vserver mailling list?
1126691113 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: the vserver-debiantools on sarge seems baggy, I filed a bug report, but seems won't be fix.
1126691150 M * vip-vs I didn't use the vserver-debiantools ...
1126691173 M * vip-vs what are they anyway?
1126691200 M * vip-vs well ... I know what to use them for ...but do they replace anything?
1126691258 M * vip-vs This is the post I did on the maillinglist: http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg10681.html
1126691263 J * Getty torsten@eisprinzessin.rz.unixnetwork.org
1126691454 J * litage ~nick@203.201.99.188
1126691748 M * vip-vs ok new start :)  running "make-kpkg --revision=vserver.1.0 kernel_image --initrd" now.... time for lunch
1126691985 M * Getty i got a small talk in some minutes about a virtual server project (gameserver selling), and like i heard they want to prefer XEN, but i think vserver could be better solution. Bad on this, that i never worked with both really, just looked at them.
1126691991 M * Getty what would you say?
1126692357 M * Getty <silence>
1126693646 M * vip-vs Sorry, can't help you. I'm new to vserver and have not (yet) tried XEN..
1126694033 J * Starcode ~jan@dsl-084-059-219-108.arcor-ip.net
1126694478 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo I think the overhead vor vserver is smaller
1126694506 M * Getty me too
1126694523 M * Getty but hoped about more hints
1126694527 M * Getty mom getting food
1126695186 M * Starcode Why would someone exclude files from vhashify? Is if only to prevent possible hash-collisions?
1126695227 J * hvd ~takeagues@fw-grz.hollomey.com
1126695820 J * wam ~wigwam@proxy2.msh.de
1126695845 M * wam jiiha - sched_hard rocks ;)
1126696158 M * hvd any idea what causes echo asdf>null to return with EPERM ?
1126696184 M * hvd /dev/null is worldwriteable
1126696194 M * Starcode mounted with -o nodev?
1126696273 M * hvd mhh well just remounted it with -o dev .. but had no nodev given last mount ;) thx .. 
1126696290 M * hvd did not think it was that easy ;)
1126696390 M * daniel_hozac Starcode: you may not want configuration files unified.
1126696433 M * Starcode Had the problem often when using knoppix rescue cd... tried running lilo within a chroot of the broken system... but writing /dev/hda failed
1126696513 M * Starcode Would be easier to vhashify all (incl. config files if they would be hash-identical)... or is copy-on-write not implemented yet?
1126696518 M * hvd ahh wel .. seems to be a problem when rootfs is mounted in </etc/vservers>/fstab
1126696526 M * daniel_hozac COW is only in the development versions.
1126696534 M * daniel_hozac (2.1.0-preX)
1126696545 M * hvd so doing a quick fix:
1126696545 M * hvd -/dev/raid1/msf-db_rootfs / ext3 defaults 0 0
1126696545 M * hvd +/dev/raid1/msf-db_rootfs / ext3 defaults,dev 0 0
1126696552 M * hvd works .. 
1126696589 M * Starcode Ok, COW not working yet is a good reason to not hashify all :)
1126696703 M * Starcode But as soon as COW is in use... there would be not reason anymore for the administrative effort of maintaining vhasify-exclude-lists could be saved, correct?
1126696824 P * Starcode Leaving
1126696844 J * Starcode ~jan@dsl-084-059-219-108.arcor-ip.net
1126697776 M * daniel_hozac Starcode: what is there to maintain? i simply exclude /{etc,srv,home,var,tmp,root}
1126698037 M * Starcode There are even files in /var that could be shared... eg:
1126698059 M * Starcode /var/lib/apt/lists/... are 14MB of debian package lists
1126698094 M * Starcode /var/cache/man holds a few MB of cached man pages
1126698219 M * Starcode I use vservers on diskless servers and the vserver images are hold in a ramdisk... so even 5 servers * 20 MB are worth thinking of how to unify them.
1126698423 M * daniel_hozac so you add those directories with +.
1126700143 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126700146 J * Doener ~doener@p54873D04.dip.t-dialin.net
1126701330 Q * Starcode Quit: Leaving
1126702275 Q * dddd44 Remote host closed the connection
1126703359 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk
1126703620 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer
1126703631 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1126704144 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126705020 J * litage ~nick@203.201.96.147
1126705107 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1126705114 M * Bertl morning folks!
1126705153 M * Hollow morning Bertl 
1126705161 M * Hollow you're fine?
1126705201 M * Bertl let me check ... looks like :)
1126705206 M * Hollow :)
1126705210 M * Bertl and you?
1126705236 M * Hollow well, school started again, everythin else seems good too ;)
1126705284 M * Bertl vip-vs, AndrewLee: the fix02 replaces the syscall implementation by a new one ... but it is not required to make it run on non-x86 archs, just debian messed up there :)
1126705641 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: would it make sense to have do_addrem_dlimit set the structure members to CDLIM_INFINITY?
1126705742 M * Bertl hmm, depends ... we have a mask there .. if the mask bit is not set, it should not matter
1126705803 M * Bertl hmm, scratch that, it's early in the morning :)
1126705820 A * Bertl is now looking into the code .. sec
1126705925 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: you mean from userspace or as default for a new one?
1126705933 M * daniel_hozac a default.
1126705967 M * Bertl yes, thought about that, might be a better choice than the 0,0,0,0 now
1126705991 M * daniel_hozac yeah, seems like the sanest way to solve https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=14026
1126706047 M * Bertl well, solve?
1126706062 M * daniel_hozac duplicating the validation into userspace doesn't seem feasible.
1126706090 M * Bertl IMHO a way to solve that is to remove the dqhash when the set failed and it was created (on the fly) before
1126706113 M * daniel_hozac hmm, true.
1126706134 M * Bertl because leaving the context basically unlimited is the result in both cases
1126706152 M * Bertl just in the first one, we have an useless dlimit hash hanging around
1126708064 M * fluor- has anyone ran openvpn within a vserver?
1126708739 M * AndrewLee Bertl: vserver2 works on my ibook after I applied the fix02 patch. Thanks.
1126709127 M * Bertl AndrewLee: you're welcome!
1126709197 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77
1126709223 P * erwan_taf 
1126709254 Q * logger Remote host closed the connection
1126709328 M * vip-vs I'm still strugling with vserver2  ..got it running, but for some strange reasons the paths to vserver, vserver-info and vshelper are wrong (not really a problem, but I think it should be set right on install)
1126709340 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126709357 M * Bertl vip-vs: you're compiling it from scratch, right?
1126709388 M * vip-vs haha .. i guess i tried it all :) 
1126709402 M * Bertl ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var
1126709420 M * Bertl this is what I use on debian to get a 'sane' default (not a debian setup)
1126709446 M * Bertl but basically you can customize _all_ pathes to all kind of schemas
1126709456 M * vip-vs right now:  kernel from derJohn and ./configure --prefix= --mandir=/usr/share/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --with-vrootdir=/vservers --with-initrddir=/etc/init.d 
1126709476 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1126709487 M * Bertl vip-vs: and what pathes are wrong for you?
1126709496 M * Bertl welcome dddd44!
1126709530 M * Bertl vip-vs: vincent, I assume, right?
1126709538 M * vip-vs pathes to vserver, vserver-info (and more of them)  pathes to vshelper (/proc/sys/kernel/vshelper)
1126709577 M * vip-vs yes vincent ... must change my nick .. I'm new to irc .. so I'm careful what info to provide :)
1126709590 M * Bertl vip-vs: what does configure list at the end of configuring? what does vserver-info - SYSINFO give?
1126709609 J * kas_3 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1126709627 M * vip-vs should I paste it overhere?
1126709693 M * Bertl pastebin.com would be great!
1126709708 M * vip-vs ok .. never done that ...let's see what it is :)
1126709736 M * vip-vs http://pastebin.com/363575
1126709738 M * mnemoc something to preserve IRC sanity
1126709754 M * Bertl vip-vs: seems it was painless, eh :)
1126709794 M * vip-vs yes ... I will remember that site :)
1126709799 M * Bertl vip-vs: yeah, guess the empty prefix causes your issues, try with --prefix=/usr instead
1126709842 M * AndrewLee Bertl: I filed a bug to Debian maintainer as well: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328209
1126709856 M * vip-vs ok ... the reason prefix is/was empty .. is that wanted to make use of the debian way of config (vserver config dir in /etc/ not in /usr/etc/)
1126709874 M * mnemoc vip-vs: --prefix=/  ?
1126709905 M * mnemoc vip-vs: and ofcourse --sysconfdir=/etc
1126709915 M * vip-vs hmmzz .... that could be an option :D
1126709958 M * Bertl AndrewLee: excellent!
1126709959 M * AndrewLee Bertl: Does the util-vserver package in debian has other problem needs to fix?
1126709966 M * vip-vs I already got: --sysconfdir=/etc  (see above)
1126709991 M * Bertl AndrewLee: yes, it has a lot of 'debianization' issues ... which break all kinds of stuff
1126710000 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126710002 Q * lilo Read error: Connection reset by peer
1126710004 M * AndrewLee Bertl: I tried applied the fix02 patch to debian package, and the built the package myself. It works for me now.
1126710009 M * Bertl AndrewLee: but hopefully they will be resolved/fixed soon ...
1126710033 M * Bertl vip-vs: try with --prefix=/usr and the rest of the options you used
1126710057 M * vip-vs Bertl: Thanks for your help sofar .. I'm going to try to install Util-Vserver like they did on: http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver+on+sarge    maybe it will get me were I want to, closer to debian config :)
1126710059 M * AndrewLee Bertl: I would like to help, if I know where is wrong. Eg: I know the fix02 should instead fix01 in Debian package.
1126710115 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: You might need newer kernel to works with vserver2 patch.
1126710155 M * vip-vs Bertl: I think changing the prefix will work, will try that later, for now I'm trying to get an overview how a quick vserver2 install can be done so I can inform my collegues.
1126710187 M * vip-vs AndrewLee: 2.6.12 is recent enough?
1126710260 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: I guess so, I use debian's linux-source-2.6.12 and kernel-patch-vserver
1126710286 M * vip-vs AndrewLee: I was planning to use "Package: linux-source-2.6.12 (2.6.12-6)"  from Sid  (strangely enough, I can not find this package with apt-cache search)
1126710288 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: And then built the kernel-image myself by kernel-package
1126710318 M * vip-vs AndrewLee: "kernel-patch-server" from Sid or form the 13thfloor page?
1126710326 M * Bertl vip-vs: host or guest install?
1126710327 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1126710332 M * Bertl wb lilo!
1126710333 M * AndrewLee vip-vs: I use the one from sid.
1126710333 M * vip-vs host
1126710397 M * vip-vs AndrewLee: I didn't know if that one would work, since I hear a lot of negative voices about debian's vserver packages .. or am I wrong here?
1126710450 M * AndrewLee Bertl: Does the kernel-patch-vserver package in debian has problem?
1126710463 M * Bertl thing is, various things got broken, some work, if you are on x86 and do not have special requirements, the debian packages are fine
1126710485 M * Bertl of course, we still hope that debian will catch up soon ...
1126710493 M * vip-vs Bertl: good to hear .. but are we talking here Sid or Sarge?
1126710500 M * Bertl AndrewLee: what is it's version?
1126710509 M * AndrewLee Bertl: 2.0
1126710516 M * Bertl and the kernel?
1126710526 M * AndrewLee Bertl: 2.6.12
1126710546 M * Bertl I assume that should be fine then, testme.sh runs without issues there?
1126710582 M * AndrewLee Bertl: Where to get testme.sh? I can run it on my ibook for you.
1126710611 M * AndrewLee Bertl: I think I can help to update the document on linux-vserver.org's wiki for you.
1126710629 M * vip-vs Bertl: what are "special requirements" to you .... eg. is it possible to run JBoss on a guest?
1126710666 M * Bertl AndrewLee: that's the idea of the wiki, go crazy, but make sure that you use the Preview feature and add meaningfull comments for the WikiMailingList ...
1126710689 M * Bertl AndrewLee: every time you 'save' a page, a mail is sent to that ML
1126710725 M * AndrewLee Bertl: I see.
1126710731 M * Bertl AndrewLee: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/
1126710765 M * Bertl vip-vs: basically userspace requirements like different build methods and vhashify (for unification)
1126710784 M * Bertl vip-vs: IIRC, debian packages still do not build the vhashify
1126710807 M * AndrewLee Bertl: ok, could you please refine the main page of wiki for me? And then I can find a place to add new page or change the out-to-date page
1126710823 M * vip-vs Bertl: I don't know what is, but I will find out when it is needed :)
1126710828 M * AndrewLee Bertl: main page of wiki are quite difficult to read right now.
1126710843 M * Bertl AndrewLee: the wiki is open, go ahead ...
1126710895 M * Bertl vip-vs: vhashify is the successor of vunify which helps with reducing resource footprint by sharing common files between guests
1126710899 J * only Mihai@85.186.28.61
1126710905 M * Bertl welcome only!
1126710963 M * vip-vs Bertl: thks for the info ... now let's take a break :)
1126710990 M * only hey
1126711045 J * yungyuc ~yungyuc@220-135-53-220.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1126711054 M * Bertl welcome yungyuc!
1126711063 M * yungyuc Hi everybody :)
1126711090 M * AndrewLee Bertl: yungyuc is my friend, he document a lot vserver related stuff on his blog.
1126711108 M * AndrewLee Bertl: So I ask him to come here to see if we can help.
1126711125 M * Bertl great!
1126711128 M * yungyuc vserver is cool, I love it
1126711147 M * Bertl me too :)
1126711192 M * only hey .. someone knows who's the admin here? otter.eecs.harvard.edu 
1126711193 M * only : )
1126711230 M * Bertl only: admin for what?
1126711257 M * only of this box 
1126711301 M * Bertl 'box' being the the host you mentioned?
1126711320 M * only yes  
1126711362 M * Bertl not really, but you might contact harvard administration
1126711371 M * Bertl jay_tumas@harvard.edu
1126711392 M * only mhm , thnx 
1126711421 M * only this jay , he join here ? 
1126711455 M * Bertl I don't think so, but you never know ...
1126711506 M * only i wanna talk with him ... : )
1126711520 M * Bertl send him an email then ... :)
1126711565 M * yungyuc yesterday I found that /usr/lib/util-vserver/defaults/vprocunhide-files lacks /proc/bus/pci/*/
1126711567 M * only yeah , but you know how this work ... when you get one email from a stranger ...
1126711582 M * yungyuc which prevent my xserver-xorg from working
1126711678 M * Bertl yungyuc: did you verify that /proc/bus/pci/* is safe withing a guest, because I doubt so ...
1126711720 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1126711728 M * Bertl wb daniel_hozac!
1126711735 M * daniel_hozac thanks.
1126711763 M * yungyuc Bertl: I doubt too, but with little knowledge to the architecture of linux, I have no other choice
1126711811 M * Bertl xserver inside a guest (on a real hardware display) are of dubious value IMHO
1126711817 M * AndrewLee Bertl: I can not access to the wiki now, seems waitting for response forever.
1126711847 M * Bertl AndrewLee: probably too many folks are accessing it right now ..
1126711856 P * only 
1126711912 M * yungyuc It leaves me a pretty clean host OS, I can't resist
1126711964 P * wam 
1126711978 M * vip-vs Bertl: back for 5 min: when I start a host, the interface doesn't work: Cannot find device "eth0:vs02"  can you give me a clue where to start searching?  (/etc/vserver/vstest02/interface/* seems alright)
1126711999 M * Bertl yungyuc: well, if you are the only admin for all guests (and the host) then it's probably safe to give access to the pci entries ...
1126712035 M * yungyuc Bertl: that exactly my case
1126712043 M * Bertl vip-vs: guess you do not have an interface called "eth0:vs02", what config options did you use for creating that guest?
1126712101 M * vip-vs Bertl: vserver vstest02 build -m debootstrap --hostname vstest01 --netdev eth0:vs02 --interface 192.168.27.34 --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/  
1126712131 M * vip-vs got the hostname updated in the config :)
1126712147 M * Bertl vip-vs: okay, you actually want: --interface vs02=eth0:192.168.27.34/24 or so instead of the --netdev and --interface
1126712170 M * yungyuc to me, operating sarge, etch, sid concurrently on one machine without preformance tax is very useful
1126712186 M * Bertl vip-vs: and you can safely forget about the vs02= part, unless you really insist on the old ifconfig
1126712254 M * vip-vs Bertl: "old ifconfig" .... guess I missed something 
1126712336 M * vip-vs Bertl: but I think I understand your pointers .. pitty I have te leave now :)
1126712336 M * Bertl well, ifconfig was 'replaced' by 'ip' from iproute(2) about 5 years ago .. just folks didn't really catch up ...
1126712419 M * AndrewLee Bertl: It's too show, I will try it next time when it gets faster.
1126712437 M * vip-vs Bertl: ok, but I still see people use ifconfig for nic info
1126712483 M * Bertl AndrewLee: k, guess you just got bad luck (unfortunate timing)
1126712487 M * vip-vs Bertl: have to go now ..thnx for your help, tomorrow I will look further in to this..thnx!
1126712495 M * yungyuc Bertl: I am told that the wiki can be added with something, are there anything I can do?
1126712501 M * Bertl vip-vs: you're welcome! cya!
1126712529 Q * vip-vs Remote host closed the connection
1126712535 M * Bertl yungyuc: documentation always is in need of improvements (emphasis on improvements)
1126712545 M * AndrewLee Bertl: Do you agree to move all documents into on page, and make a index for Introduction, FAQ, Installation and other language
1126712567 M * Bertl all documents?
1126712593 M * Bertl that will be horribly long, the immediate death of the wiki, and not to read at all :)
1126712594 M * AndrewLee Bertl: Cause now it's quite mess, I don't even know where to find the answer
1126712656 M * Bertl AndrewLee: if you want to make 'drastic' changes, please setup another wiki (or whatever) and build a prototype, so folks can check it ...
1126712683 M * Bertl then post the 'suggestion' to the mailing list, to get some feedback
1126712697 M * AndrewLee Warning: in /var/www/tavi-0.25-patched2/lib/db.php on line 13
1126712698 M * AndrewLee LIB_ErrorDatabaseConnect
1126712758 M * Bertl let me check what's happening there right now ...
1126712767 M * AndrewLee Bertl: You are right, I should post the 'suggestion' first.
1126713108 M * Bertl okay, no chance atm (checking) the host seems unreachable for me atm
1126713135 M * Bertl will get something to eat instead :)
1126713148 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1126713248 A * AndrewLee is going to get a cool beer instead. :)
1126713882 Q * nebuchadnezzar Remote host closed the connection
1126713987 Q * daniel_hozac Read error: Connection reset by peer
1126714128 Q * mugwump Remote host closed the connection
1126714134 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1126714337 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1126714743 J * TRS ~TRS@109.80-202-211.nextgentel.com
1126714789 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126714998 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1126715050 M * TRS hello vservers
1126715072 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1126715082 M * Bertl back now ...
1126715087 M * Bertl welcome TRS!
1126715101 M * TRS thanks - we had a dialogue on the mailinglist...
1126715147 M * TRS .... about gentoo vserver not stopping nicely.
1126715154 M * Bertl ah, yes, Tor* :)
1126715158 M * TRS Me :)
1126715166 M * TRS any ideas?
1126715194 M * Bertl well, a lot of them actually ... :)
1126715208 M * TRS let me hear and I can try .....
1126715245 M * Bertl as far as I figured the issue by now ... it seems that your init does not terminate once it called reboot/halt
1126715277 M * Bertl the tools OTOH, do not cope with that correctly, especially in the guest init case (with legacy support, IIRC)
1126715332 M * Bertl we are planning to work around this issue by killing off everything once the reboot/halt is called, but this needs some testing ...
1126715368 M * Bertl as I saw that you are already using 2.1.x, it seems that you are not afraid from using test/devel versions, right?
1126715393 M * Bertl s/from/of
1126715404 M * TRS not really, as historically they might be better than previous stable versions anyway.... :-)
1126715437 M * TRS I just tried 2.1.x to see if there were any difference, but it wasn't
1126715523 M * Bertl okay, so I'd suggest we move to the current 2.6.13.1-vs2.1.0-pre6 (available in a few minutes) just to verify that this has the very same issues :) after that we add some small deltas and give it a try, sounds good?
1126715540 M * TRS sound great!
1126715567 M * daniel_hozac i thought 2.1.0 was at pre7 already?
1126715572 M * Bertl k, so let's get the vanilla 2.6.13.1 kernel on your side (guess the build stuff is not the problem on gentoo)
1126715599 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126715611 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yes, thanks, -pre8 I meant!
1126715668 M * TRS ok, bear with me a bit.... Im no "kernel hacker"....  The sources I have used come from portage. Do I need to patch a new kernel myself?
1126715746 M * Bertl yes, you'll have to do that, but it's quite simple, even for non-kernel hackers
1126715822 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1126715823 M * TRS ok, I just have to get the vanilla sources first then.... hold on....
1126716062 J * RedSpy max@pD9537542.dip.t-dialin.net
1126716069 M * RedSpy Hi. :)
1126716294 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 !
1126716327 M * TRS ok, sources are coming.... Where do I find the pre8 patch? (and some instructions please .... :-)
1126716402 M * Bertl TRS: have to upload it ... will take a few more minutes on my side
1126716428 M * TRS thanks
1126716799 M * maharaja_ Q
1126716930 M * Bertl maharaja_: A :)
1126717087 M * maharaja_ oha - wrong key :)
1126717096 M * maharaja_ and window
1126717097 M * maharaja_ :)
1126717102 M * maharaja_ wrong ^ 2
1126717104 M * maharaja_ *g*
1126717133 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1126717162 M * Bertl welcome nokoya! nebuchadnezzar!
1126717198 M * Bertl welcome RedSpy! :)
1126717258 M * RedSpy Hi Bertl.  Amazing support you are providing.  :)
1126717267 M * Bertl thanks!
1126717388 M * TRS Bertl: I have a female voice downstares that seem to want me somewhere else right now.... <Sigh>  What's the link for the patch, and I'll try later tonight?
1126717648 M * nebuchadnezzar hi Bertl
1126717797 M * Bertl TRS: okay, np, we'll address it later ...patches will be here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/
1126718149 M * TRS thanks a lot, have to go... ! :-)
1126718189 Q * TRS Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12
1126718266 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1126718352 M * Bertl welcome stefani!
1126718368 J * tuxcapoeira ~capoeira@85-124-167-78.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1126718369 M * SiD3WiNDR gwen?!
1126718394 M * Bertl SiD3WiNDR: hollaback?
1126718417 M * SiD3WiNDR b a n a n a s !
1126718429 M * Bertl lol!
1126718449 M * tuxcapoeira ?
1126718457 M * Bertl lol^2
1126718469 M * Bertl welcome tuxcapoeira!
1126718488 M * stefani ho.a
1126718505 M * tuxcapoeira hi, nach ner längeren nacht funkt auch alles mit keyboardleds und so am powerbook :)
1126718524 M * Bertl tuxcapoeira: fine, channel language is still english :)
1126718549 M * tuxcapoeira sorry!
1126718553 M * Bertl np
1126718617 M * RedSpy And if German, than ISO-8859-1 prefered since mIRC programmer is to lazy to add UTF-8 support... ;)
1126718641 M * mountie RedSpy: sucks to be using mIRC then, eh?
1126718648 M * RedSpy *duck*
1126718652 M * mountie ;-
1126718653 M * mountie )
1126718687 M * Bertl mIRC is available on unix? :)
1126718721 M * RedSpy yes, with a little help of wine... 8)
1126718745 M * Greek0 well, it's not free, otherwise it would probably have utf-8 support by now
1126718821 M * Greek0 Bertl: do you have the hashtable implementation you talked about the other day available somewhere?
1126718830 M * SiD3WiNDR I don't have utf8 in my konsole/screen/irssi either
1126718856 M * Bertl Greek0: sure, just have to find it ... :)
1126718857 M * Greek0 well, but you could easily have when configuring it right. you can't have that with mirc apparently
1126718861 M * Greek0 Bertl: :)
1126718922 M * RedSpy OK, I'm obviously using the wrong IRC client.  But as long as we stick to English, nobody will be harmed.
1126718926 M * RedSpy ;)
1126718993 M * Bertl we won't use it against you .. at least not too often :)
1126719002 M * RedSpy hehe
1126719157 M * Bertl Greek0: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/CODE/
1126719185 M * Bertl here is _one_ implementation, not the final one (consider it GPL, will add notice later)
1126719349 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net
1126719357 M * Bertl welcome prae!
1126719528 M * prae hi !
1126719679 M * nebuchadnezzar It's quite hard to find a complex installation guide, like a virtual private lan between vserver and one vserver being the routeur
1126719722 M * nebuchadnezzar I found this http://vserver.strahlungsfrei.de/tiki-index.php?page=ComplexSetting
1126720032 M * Bertl sounds interesting ...
1126720203 Q * nebuchadnezzar Read error: Connection reset by peer
1126720286 M * Bertl looks like we have to address wiki load issues pretty soon ... more and more folks use the page engine :)
1126720303 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1126720305 M * nebuchadnezzar whouuuu
1126720322 M * Bertl okay, off for a while now ... back later this evening ...
1126720334 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1126720336 M * Greek0 Bertl_oO: 403
1126720339 M * Greek0 *grml*
1126720357 M * Greek0 probably 2 seconds too late
1126720893 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1126721019 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1126721287 M * AndrewLee Bertl_oO: I sent the suggestion to mailing list, it's time to go to bed for me. See you tomorrow. :-)
1126722347 Q * prae Quit: Pwet
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1126727644 J * nayco ~nayco@lns-bzn-8-nan-82-250-229-181.adsl.proxad.net
1126728326 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1126729425 M * nayco 'llo !!!
1126730024 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1126730033 M * Bertl evening folks!
1126730080 M * mnemoc hi Bertl 
1126730393 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1126730500 M * Greek0 Bertl: danke für chash
1126730522 M * Bertl Greek0: you're welcome!
1126731024 J * Starcode ~jan@dsl-213-023-017-056.arcor-ip.net
1126731124 M * Starcode Is it possible to mount nfs-partions using /etc/vservers/vserver-name/fstab.remote?
1126731193 M * Bertl I'd say so ...
1126731227 M * Starcode In the great flower page (http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html) it sounds like it should be used for such things... but as the nfs request is done with the ip address of the vserver and there is no portmapper listening on this ip it does not work
1126731277 M * Starcode Of cause, the portmapper would be startet in the runlevel-scripts of the vserver, but that's after the fstab.remote is evaluated
1126731297 M * Bertl care to give some details about tools and kernel patches? maybe output of testme.sh?
1126731326 M * Bertl portmap inside a vserver guest is probably not the best idea ...
1126731340 M * Bertl (although it works)
1126731360 M * Starcode Yes, but it sucks, that's right ;)
1126732215 M * Starcode The problem is, that the host system has 2 NICs, one gigabit NIC (eth0) to the fileserver with network 10.1.0.0/16 and a NIC (eth1) to the Loadbalancer with network 10.2.0.0/16. The vserver has only 1 IP on network 10.2.0.0/16 so every outgoing requests from vserver are with src address 10.2.x.x... but this address cannot reach the NFS Server as this host is connected to the other nic.
1126732327 M * Starcode The solution could be to mount the nfs partition directly in /etc/vservers/vservername/fstab as this is mounted without chbind... any other ideas?
1126732385 M * Bertl you forget that nfs changes the IP once you do requests from inside the guest
1126732401 M * Starcode Kernel 2.6.12.4-vs2.0, util-vserver 0.30.204
1126732445 M * Bertl but actually I'm very tired right now ... so I guess I'm off to bed ...
1126732460 M * Bertl have fun and cya later/tomorrow ...
1126732466 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1126732467 M * Starcode Yes, I know, that's what I said. NFS in fstab.remote are with src ip of the guest... but this ip is on the NIC that is not connected to the NFS :(
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1126733096 J * cg ~cg@80.166.242.46
1126733118 M * cg Hello
1126733128 M * Starcode Hi
1126733209 M * cg I'm running vserver on a gentoo host, and try to get a FC1 to run as a guest system
1126733330 M * cg First i ran the command "vserver auth1 build -m apt-rpm --hostname auth.*.dk --interface ***.***.***.*** --netdev eth1 --netprefix 23 --context 42 -- -d fc1
1126733381 M * cg first the server complaind, that the pkgcfgbas-dir dit not exist, i then greatet it /vservers/.pkg
1126733431 M * cg Then it didn't find the mountpoint /etc/rpm, then i created it.
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1126733507 M * cg now i get an error "/usr/lib/util-vserver/vapt-get-worker: line 48: exec: apt-get: not found"
1126733517 M * cg How do i get on???
1126734351 M * daniel_hozac cg: you'll need apt-rpm installed to use that build method.
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1126734740 M * Nicoli ahh, my new ride: http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=318
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1126735321 P * cg 
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1126741850 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1126742129 Q * Doener Read error: Connection reset by peer
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