1126571940 Q * obi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126571963 J * obi ~obi@asus.saftware.de 1126572907 Q * SNy Read error: Connection reset by peer 1126572930 Q * cereal Read error: Connection reset by peer 1126572960 Q * obi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126572981 J * obi ~obi@asus.saftware.de 1126573004 J * cereal koepi@217.20.124.153 1126573138 J * SNy 4a62671982@bmx-chemnitz.de 1126574526 J * kas_3 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126574805 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126576437 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126577220 J * litage ~nick@203.201.98.12 1126579018 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126579310 Q * kas_3 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126579330 J * kas_3 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126579352 Q * litage Remote host closed the connection 1126579500 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126580213 J * ag-2_ ag@muaddib.roxor.cx 1126580214 Q * ag-2 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1126581198 J * litage ~nick@203.201.98.12 1126582938 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126583858 J * litage ~nick@203.201.99.22 1126584795 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126585160 Q * kas_3 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126589488 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126589682 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1126591306 M * eyck hmm, I get this: /usr/lib/util-vserver/legacy/vserver: line 699: ulimit: max user processes: cannot modify limit: Invalid argument 1126591325 M * eyck when trying to use -l 1024, 1126591330 M * eyck what should I do? 1126592631 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126592990 M * eyck however.. when I enable ulimits one after another...it works 1126593252 M * eyck aaah, here's the rub... 1126593258 M * eyck OK, thanx, fixed. 1126594011 J * kas_3 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126594113 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@tlug.sinica.edu.tw 1126594155 M * AndrewLee Does vserver2 tested on PPC? 1126594202 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1126594345 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126594372 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126594399 M * AndrewLee Does anyway to tell the running kernel is succeed patched with vserver or not? 1126594525 Q * kas_3 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126594848 M * daniel_hozac ls -ld /proc/virtual 1126596711 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: yes, my running kernel is succeed patched with vserver2 1126596763 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: But it shows vc_new_s_context(): Function not implemented 1126596791 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: I am using Debian PPC on ibook. 1126596809 Q * eyck Read error: Operation timed out 1126596838 M * daniel_hozac AndrewLee: legacy utils without legacy support in the kernel? 1126597491 M * AndrewLee I have legacy support in kernel's config file 1126597534 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: Do you want the all of vserver related settings in my kernel's config? 1126597870 M * AndrewLee grep -i vserver_legacy /boot/config-2.6.12-2vs2 1126597871 M * AndrewLee CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACYNET=y 1126597871 M * AndrewLee CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY=y 1126597871 M * AndrewLee CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY_VERSION=y 1126597894 M * AndrewLee Any other things that I missed to check? 1126598024 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1126598773 Q * lonewolff Read error: Connection reset by peer 1126598776 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host86-128-17-74.range86-128.btcentralplus.com 1126598899 Q * lonewolff Quit: 1126598990 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host86-128-17-74.range86-128.btcentralplus.com 1126599118 Q * dddd44 Remote host closed the connection 1126599383 Q * stupidawy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126600704 J * stupidawy foo@198.77.239.131 1126601082 Q * nokoya Quit: changing servers 1126601150 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1126603301 J * martin ~multiplex@pc70-c512.uibk.ac.at 1126603311 M * martin hello :) 1126603434 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1126603498 M * martin since converting legacy to newstyle config i'm experiencing strange network problems... maybe someone can verify my interface config? 1126604338 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1126605207 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1126606479 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126608573 J * kas_3 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126608865 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126609646 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126609765 Q * kas_3 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126610025 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126610047 Q * dddd44 Remote host closed the connection 1126610430 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126610705 Q * martin Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126611645 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126611665 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net 1126611927 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126613737 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126613779 J * Doener ~doener@p54873CAA.dip.t-dialin.net 1126614442 Q * maharaja Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126614598 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1126614801 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1126615352 J * maharaja maharaja@ip52.ipax.at 1126615375 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126615391 M * maharaja re 1126616006 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU 1126616873 Q * TheSeer Remote host closed the connection 1126617067 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1126617295 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1126617715 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1126618299 J * eugenesan eugenesan@bzq-219-189-203.cablep.bezeqint.net 1126618307 M * eugenesan hi all 1126619577 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer 1126619891 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1126620290 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1126620295 M * Bertl evening folks! 1126620304 M * Bertl AndrewLee: did you update util-vserver? 1126620508 M * mef Do folks run vserver on their personal machines? If so, what for? 1126620536 A * Bertl does, mainly for presentation and testing purposes :) 1126620538 M * mef That is, do folks put unreliable, potentially malicious software into separate vservers? 1126620631 M * mef For example, I don't like to admit this but I am still using Microsoft Outlook 2000 running on top of cxoffice. Sometimes it gets out of wack and starts to consume CPU like crazy. It would be nice to isolate it into a safe corner. 1126620662 M * SNy it would be nice to exchange it with something that works 1126620689 M * SNy you didn't want to hear that, but ICNR 1126620721 M * mef Another example would be to run firefox in a vserver, simply because security holes might creep up in the future (as they have in the past) and it would be great to isolate that into a vserver. 1126620739 A * SiD3WiNDR points to evolution 1126620740 M * SiD3WiNDR =) 1126620763 M * SNy mef: it's called v_server_ for a reason 1126620779 M * SNy if you want to run firefox in a secure environment, use a chroot 1126620793 M * mef SNy: oh come now... chroot is not enough. 1126620819 M * Bertl SNy: well, linux-vserver is often used for service separate, for various reasons, including security 1126620821 M * mef SNy: there are things that come vserver provides that would be nice to have that chroot does have. 1126620825 M * Bertl *separation 1126620845 M * mef whoa 1126620849 M * mef forget previous sentence 1126620850 M * SNy yeah, but firefox or any other GUI is not what I would consider a service 1126620852 M * mef let me try that one again 1126620872 M * mef SNy: forget the fact that the technology is called "vserver". 1126620873 M * SNy also, you would need to take care of the X protocol across the boundaries 1126620905 M * Bertl SNy: that's correct, but you can consider 'special' apps as services, e.g. QEMU or JAVA ... 1126620917 M * mef SNy: X protocol across the boundaries? X works over the network! 1126620924 M * SNy yeah it does 1126620933 M * Bertl and there it makes perfect sense to apply limits for the resources and/or networking 1126620946 M * SNy but you'd need to setup vserver networking correctly for it to work 1126620988 M * SNy also, considering how many people do actually run frigging IE, I would consider ff in a chroot pretty secure 1126620992 M * SNy ;p 1126621029 M * Bertl definitely :) 1126621030 M * SNy besides, I keep my mozilla running 1126621031 M * mef SNy: So what would you have to fix in the networking? 1126621037 M * SNy so... after like 3 weeks 1126621042 M * SNy it uses 80% memory 1126621080 M * SNy do you really want to setup a vserver that consumes as much right away so it can hold the instance? 1126621106 M * SNy ok, thinking in uml terms here, maybe you don't start a vserver with memory limits 1126621118 M * mef SNy: ignore the current static nature of the vserver resource limits. Lets assume those could be fixed. 1126621130 M * Bertl mef: static? 1126621135 M * SNy lets assume chroot gets fixed then 1126621139 M * mef bertl: static what? 1126621156 M * Bertl mef> SNy: ignore the current static nature of the vserver resource limits <--- 1126621229 M * mef bertl: forget the static comment for now... it is probably based on my ignorance about how the soft and hard limits work. 1126621237 M * SNy mef: I wasn't saying you need to fix anything in the networking 1126621250 M * Bertl mef: k :) 1126621258 M * SNy I was just saying that I consider the setup needed as overkill 1126621331 M * mef SNy: assume that the software installation and vserver setup was as "simple" as using apt-get or rpm. 1126621356 M * mef SNy: I am more interested in knowing whether vserver as we know it now could be used for something like this. 1126621369 M * mef bertl: you probably know that I am baiting you guys... ;) 1126621389 M * AndrewLee Bertl: Yes, I am using the one from sid. 1126621411 M * Bertl AndrewLee: try the one from the 13thfloor pages with the fix02 1126621442 M * AndrewLee Bertl: What? 1126621453 M * Bertl AndrewLee: but before, please upload the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' 1126621463 M * Bertl (e.g. to pastebin.com) 1126621488 M * AndrewLee Bertl: Hold on, let me reboot into debian 1126621877 M * mef bertl & sny: I guess you guys wont bite. 1126621925 M * mef bertl: I am guessing to properly to support the scenario I was suggesting would require functionality similar to the vnet support we added to PlanetLab's version of vserver. 1126621956 M * Bertl mef: lol, no I didn't get that hint :) 1126621982 M * Bertl mef: and as I said, ngnet will allow for this and similar (at least with a minimum of changes) 1126622017 M * mef bertl: great... 1126622025 M * Bertl unfortunately till now nobody was willing to sponsor ngnet specific development (and it's high on my todo list but not on the top) 1126622049 M * mef bertl: I know... I am trying to get funds, but it is slow going because it is not on the top of our priority list either. 1126622053 M * mnemoc ngnet? 1126622083 M * Bertl (next generation networking, basically virtual devices, routing and iptables) 1126622102 M * mnemoc :D 1126622216 M * mnemoc OT: will you adapt limits/quota patch for 1.2.11-rc2? 1126622230 M * mnemoc or it's deprecated? 1126622268 M * Bertl no, quota patches will be updated ... 1126622308 M * Bertl AndrewLee (did /msg me on the sysinfo): vserver(2) syscall#: 273/default 1126622328 M * Bertl now that is wrong, and one of the bugs debian introduced ... 1126622342 M * Bertl AndrewLee: so please go here: http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/ 1126622368 M * Bertl download the latest util-vserver (0.30.208) plus the fix02 patch, apply that, configure your tools for debian, and isntall them 1126622401 M * Bertl ppc is tested (I use that on my laptop, PB-TI), and the syscall number is 236 :) 1126622543 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ... 1126622577 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1126625042 M * fluor- I'm mounting --bind a directory inside a vserver, but its contents are only accessible in the vserver after this one has been restarted - is there a workaround to this? 1126625061 M * daniel_hozac do the bind mount in the vserver's namespace. 1126625096 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Namespaces 1126625264 M * fluor- daniel_hozac: thanks! 1126626079 J * dddd44 tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1126626440 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk 1126626861 J * tuxcapoeira ~capoeira@85-124-167-78.work.xdsl-line.inode.at 1126627034 Q * tuxcapoeira Quit: 1126627452 Q * mef Remote host closed the connection 1126627855 Q * ag-2_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126628190 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1126628241 J * tuxcapoeira ~capoeira@85-124-167-78.work.xdsl-line.inode.at 1126629110 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1126629115 M * Bertl *short visit* 1126629140 M * Bertl welcome tuxcapoeira! :) 1126629203 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.28 1126629310 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126629310 N * menomc mnemoc 1126629838 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1126632797 Q * Doener Read error: Connection reset by peer 1126632994 J * Doener ~doener@p54873CAA.dip.t-dialin.net 1126633920 J * ag-2 ag@muaddib.roxor.cx 1126635651 J * nayco ~nayco@lns-bzn-8-nan-82-250-229-181.adsl.proxad.net 1126635847 M * nayco Helo !!! 1126635851 M * nayco +l 1126636158 Q * nayco Quit: Bonne nuit ! 1126636471 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1126636477 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1126638032 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1126638361 J * lilo U2FsdGVkX1@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1126639301 J * nayco ~nayco@lns-bzn-8-nan-82-250-229-181.adsl.proxad.net 1126640208 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1126640645 Q * nayco Quit: Bonne nuit ! 1126640670 J * RedSpy max@pD95378CE.dip.t-dialin.net 1126640836 J * vip-vs ~vip-vs@cc521104-d.ensch1.ov.home.nl 1126640972 J * litage ~nick@203.201.96.41 1126641018 M * vip-vs hi all! 1126641071 M * RedSpy hi! :) 1126641119 M * vip-vs Think it's possible to get some help with setting up my vps? 1126641629 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-5-17.dclient.hispeed.ch 1126641633 M * maharaja Bertl: are you there? 1126641811 Q * lilo Read error: Operation timed out 1126641949 J * lilo tor@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1126642263 Q * xf Remote host closed the connection 1126642266 J * xf ~local@ppp246-16.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net 1126644812 Q * vip-vs Remote host closed the connection 1126645104 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-087.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1126645593 M * nebuchadnezzar hello, is there a changelog somewhere between 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre6 and 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre7 ? 1126647267 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1126647278 M * Bertl evening folks! 1126647299 M * Bertl RedSpy: hi! :) 1126647327 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: changes are minimal (minor quota fixes), and no for the pre versions there is no changelog yet 1126647445 M * Bertl morning Aiken! do you ahve any dual CPU 64bit system at hand? 1126647538 M * Aiken I wish I had but only the one single cpu 64bit system 1126647587 M * Bertl k, np, just wanted to check ... because I'm looking into 64bit SMP scheduling stuff (seems something _is_ wrong there under certain conditions) 1126647708 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1126647794 M * maharaja Bertl: i experienced a crash 1126647796 M * maharaja today 1126647802 M * mugwump hmm, maybe I need to use this as an argument to order a dual-core amd64 :) 1126647810 M * maharaja buut there has been no information on minicom 1126647815 M * maharaja and i do not know why 1126647827 M * maharaja so i cannot debug the problem as i would like to 1126647869 M * Aiken until a friend can source me the 400MHz (or so) sparc he is talking about my current hardware won't be changing anytime soon :( 1126648228 M * Bertl maharaja: hmm, did you try to issue a magic sysrq? 1126648258 M * Bertl maharaja: did you get _any_ log messages on your minicom? 1126648290 M * Bertl mugwump: you can have it, no need to credit me :) 1126648548 M * maharaja im not able to do that 1126648553 M * maharaja (magic sysrq) 1126648557 M * maharaja dont ask me why 1126648564 M * maharaja i once managed to do that 1126648569 M * maharaja but minicom is always in "offline" mode 1126648595 M * maharaja if i do echo "lala" > /dev/ttyS0 1126648605 M * maharaja i get the output on my minicom console 1126648621 M * maharaja moreover, i see the kernel booting 1126648629 M * maharaja and all the messages arrive at my console 1126648783 M * maharaja i honestly do not know what to do :-/ 1126648803 M * maharaja besides kicking vserver and trying to use a vanilla kernel 1126648820 M * maharaja right now i tried to tell minicom to send "break" 1126648822 M * maharaja (from the menu) 1126648834 M * maharaja now it states "sending break" but is not responding to anything else 1126649058 M * maharaja Bertl: waiting for your reply and hoping that your irc clients flashes/beeps/makes funny noises :) 1126649101 M * Bertl lol :) 1126649189 M * Bertl you want to send a break-h for a test 1126649218 M * Bertl (this should list the magic sysrq options, and if you'd listened to me, you'd already done that a few days ago :) 1126649247 M * Bertl maharaja: the problem with serial consoles is, that they do not help you anything if they are not used properly :) 1126649367 J * nayco ~nayco@lns-bzn-8-nan-82-250-229-181.adsl.proxad.net 1126649595 M * Bertl welcome nayco! 1126650793 M * michal hey Bertl :) have you seen a cable serial (or paraller if it helps) <-> usb for console ? 1126650815 M * michal i would like to use my powerbook as serial console sometimes 1126650839 M * Bertl yes, actually I have one in the living room (serial<->usb) 1126650859 M * michal done yourself or got some ? 1126650867 M * Bertl it basically is a usb based serial device 1126650904 M * Bertl hard to build yourself, though possible with recent usb chips/controllers, I simply bought it :) 1126650956 M * Bertl it's not larger than the cable itself, so you have a serial connector (like on the PC) at one end, and the usb connector at the other (cable about 1.5m) 1126651035 M * michal could you tell me brand / shop / something what would make possible to find one here ? 1126651066 M * nayco Hello, all ! 1126651070 M * michal just cable and getty is all what i need, right ? 1126651074 M * Bertl michal: here being? 1126651139 M * michal well ,here is Poland, but having a brand i can query local shops, and when they won't have it (they won't ;p) get one throught the internet 1126651143 M * nayco Bertl: Seen my last post yesterday ? Quota with vroot fails... 1126651167 M * Bertl yes, but I'm not convinced that you did everything right :) 1126651178 M * nayco Bertl: Yep ;) ! 1126651187 M * maharaja Bertl: so how do i use the serial console the right way? 1126651210 M * maharaja minicom still states "sending break" 1126651238 M * Bertl maharaja: first, you should make sure that the console is actually on your device/minicom and the wiring/configuration is properly 1126651265 M * Bertl michal: you need the 'adapter' cable (serial<->usb) and a serial null-modem cable 1126651267 M * michal http://www.aircable.net/AIRcable/serialUSB.html <- nice one 1126651271 M * maharaja i tried to check it via "echo test > /dev/ttyS0" 1126651288 M * maharaja and if i recall correctly, i once issued a successful sysreq+h 1126651296 M * nayco Bertl: Well, the documentation (http://linux-vserver.org/Standard+non-shared+quota) doesn't seem complete to me... So I think I had to do thing... Randomly ;) 1126651302 M * maharaja so i guess the wireing is ok 1126651384 M * Bertl michal: well, I would keep it simple ... no fancy x over y via z stuff, as this a) requires drivers, b) often has some limitations, and c) does increase the possible failures 1126651426 M * nayco Bertl: I tried to modify the vserver's fstab, then its mtab, but did not work. I think I failed with the vroot device copy operation. 1126651465 M * michal Bertl: yeah, only joking. same with me - prefer to keep it simple for mentioned reasons 1126651526 M * Bertl nayco: IIRC, you got a setup with the real devices where both / and /home was working, right? 1126651534 M * nayco yes 1126651572 M * nayco simply by copying /dev/hda{8,9} to /vservers/quota/dev 1126651589 M * Bertl okay, try to get this setup (working) again 1126651604 M * nayco And adding lines to the vservers mtab 1126651618 M * Bertl michal: cable should cost around USD 20 or so at most, make sure that hardware handshake is supported... 1126651637 M * Bertl michal: then build (or buy) a null-modem cable as mentioned on the wiki 1126651697 M * michal i have found some cable but ... it is too cheap ;) to have everything needed - seriously, there is written it cannot fail connected to devices "directly communicating with uart" 1126651701 M * Bertl maharaja: you want to setup and verify a few things first ... a) that the _console_ is directed to your serial (e.g. booting happens there, logging happens there), b) that the magic sysrq actually works, c) that your NMI oopser works and logs to that console 1126651708 M * michal ok, have another one. 1126651756 M * Bertl michal: also, depending on your Laptop's OS, you want to look for a good driver support 1126651787 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1126651799 M * michal i will be using it from linux, so not a problem 1126651824 M * Bertl http://www.usbgear.com/usa/item_288.html (just an example) 1126651899 M * nayco Bertl: Ok, it work with the "old" method (Modify mtab + copy /dev/hda9 to vserver) 1126651902 M * nayco +s 1126651981 M * nayco mmmm... I've got an idea : Just a test. 1126652023 M * Bertl welcome prae! 1126652028 M * prae Hi Bertl 1126652039 M * Bertl nayco: so we have now / on hda8 and /home on hda9, right? 1126652064 M * Bertl (and both are working fine inside the guest, with both devices present inside the guest's /dev) 1126652168 M * michal thx Bertl :) 1126652315 M * nayco Bertl: Well, I only have /dev/hda9 (/home) in the vserver's /dev/ because I do not nedd quota on /. 1126652348 M * nayco But, well, quota work with that setup. 1126652351 M * Bertl okay, so be it, and it currently works fine with all tools ... 1126652366 M * nayco yes. 1126652396 M * nayco Well, only tried with repquota and setquota, but they are enouh to enforce/check quota. 1126652398 M * Bertl now let's make an strace -fF of all the working/used tools and save it somewhere (strace -fF -o file.trace 1126652452 M * Bertl after that, leave everything as is (no guest restart or whatever) and just do the following: 1126652475 M * Bertl rm -f /path/to/guest/dev/hda9 (it's still called had9 there?) 1126652514 M * Bertl vrsetup /dev/vroot1 /dev/hda9 1126652528 M * Bertl cp -va /dev/vroot1 /path/to/guest/dev/hda9 1126652532 M * Bertl (all on the host) 1126652540 M * nayco Well, I'd like to say that I've just tried to make it with vroot, like this : vrsetup /dev/vroot0 /dev/hda9; cp -a /dev/vroot0 /vserver/quota/dev/hda9; vi mtab|fstab => fails. I also tried with "cp -a /dev/hda9 /vserver/quota/dev/hdv1" => fails. Ok, I gonna do what you are saying. 1126652579 M * nayco Mmmmm, is vroot0 wrong ? 1126652600 M * Bertl no, it's fine ... just make sure that you delete the config first 1126652615 M * Bertl i.e. vroot -d /dev/vroot0 1126652623 M * Bertl *vrsetup 1126652718 M * nayco ok, I do that. 1126652937 Q * tuxcapoeira Quit: Leaving 1126653077 J * nayco_laptop ~nayco@lns-bzn-8-nan-82-250-229-181.adsl.proxad.net 1126653086 M * nayco_laptop waaarrp. 1126653108 M * nayco_laptop Ok, it does not work, but I have plenty of stuff to analyse ;-) 1126653136 J * KeneK ~kht@gvtc01160.skypoint.net 1126653162 M * Bertl nayco_laptop: okay, those tools who fail/behave different are interesting .. and I'd like to have a look at the straces with and without the vroot 1126653179 M * Bertl welcome KeneK! 1126653214 A * KeneK waves 1126653221 M * nayco_laptop i'm pastebining ;) 1126653260 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo did anyone manage to get ubuntu running as a guest? 1126653318 M * Bertl [MUPPETS]Gonzo: is there a problem with ubuntu? 1126653342 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo Du bist deutscher, oder? Darf ich hier deutsch schreiben? 1126653351 M * Bertl (I assume it can be debootstrapped) 1126653412 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo ubuntu can be bootstrapped and bootstrapping works fine. When I run base-config, it drops back to shell 1126653456 M * Bertl did you try to bootstrap with util-vserver yet? 1126653478 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo I did 1126653488 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo I followed the "step by step" guide 1126653502 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo base-config crashes due to problems opening the pty 1126653505 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo open("/dev/ptmx", O_RDWR) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 1126653505 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo open("/dev/ptyp0", O_RDWR) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 1126653505 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo write(2, "openpty failed\n", 15) = 15 1126653576 M * Bertl hmm, sounds like it was not isntalled properly ... but maybe the ubuntu debootstrap does something differently 1126653605 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo root@longdong:~ # ls /dev 1126653605 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo MAKEDEV log null xconsole 1126653619 M * Bertl the /dev/ptmx should be created by util-vserver after the debootstrap 1126653644 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo root@longdong:/ # ls /dev.X/ 1126653644 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo full null ptmx pts random tty urandom zero 1126653657 M * nayco_laptop http://pastebin.com/363018 1126653681 M * Bertl [MUPPETS]Gonzo: yes that looks more like it 1126653701 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo shall I try to stop the vserver and exchange the directories? 1126653707 M * nayco_laptop Oh, sorry : Bertl http://pastebin.com/363018 1126653726 M * Bertl [MUPPETS]Gonzo: yes, I'm pretty confident this will solve this issue for you! 1126653761 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo ah, the "dev" directory is busy - can not be moved. Strange 1126653789 M * Bertl just stop the guest, and move it ... or --bind mount it 1126653807 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo I stopped the guest but it still is busy 1126653817 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo fuser does not show any processes 1126653854 M * maharaja Bertl: i fail to verify that the magic sysrq works 1126653859 M * maharaja it once worked by accident 1126653897 M * Bertl what about the bootup, does it happen via serial console? 1126653919 M * Bertl nayco_laptop: okay, this is the working version right? what about the failing one? 1126654032 M * maharaja Bertl: it does 1126654069 M * Bertl maharaja: okay, that's a good sign, now do you see/get a message stating 'online' in minicom? do you use minicom? 1126654078 M * maharaja i use the console=ttyS0,115200,n8 1126654079 M * nayco_laptop Bertl: http://pastebin.com/363020 1126654095 M * maharaja Bertl: minicom is offline 1126654099 J * misko ~misko@slovakia.sh.cvut.cz 1126654107 M * maharaja thats what i don't know how to fix 1126654110 M * misko hi, anyone available for small help? 1126654129 M * Bertl welcome misko! 1126654136 M * nayco_laptop 'llo ! 1126654137 M * maharaja console=ttyS0,115200n8 is the correct parameter i use 1126654139 M * Bertl misko: even big help sometimes :) 1126654156 M * misko hmm... i'm trying to get up a migrated redhat 7.2 inside vserver 1126654165 M * nayco_laptop or medium-sized help, depend on your needs :P 1126654199 M * misko and the problem is 1126654199 M * misko [root@www-mkcr /]# mount /proc 1126654199 M * misko mount: permission denied 1126654217 M * Bertl nayco_laptop: do you remember the 'export LC_ALL=C LANG=C ? *G* 1126654224 M * misko i've tried to google for similar problem, but i've not found any usable solution :( 1126654241 M * Bertl misko: the tools mount proc and /dev/pts inside a guest for you 1126654247 M * nayco_laptop Bertl: Yes, Ityped it, but I forgot to type it again after /reenter :((( 1126654249 M * Bertl misko: no need to mount it yourself ... 1126654283 M * misko bertl: they does not :\ 1126654290 M * misko [root@www-mkcr /]# ls -l /proc 1126654290 M * misko total 0 1126654336 M * Bertl misko: let's start simple, could you provide (i.e. upload to pastebin or so) the output of: 'testme.sh' and 'vserver-info - SYSINFO'? 1126654356 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1126654367 M * Bertl (both on the host) 1126654380 M * Bertl nayco_laptop: so the repquota works fine, right? 1126654401 M * misko ok, i'l try 1126654411 M * maharaja Bertl: do i have to configure a modem? 1126654414 M * misko regular vservers work 1126654420 M * misko created with vserver-debiantools 1126654429 M * [MUPPETS]Gonzo Bertl: I managed to rename the dev directory after rebooting the host 1126654432 M * misko but this one ist just a hard-copy of old server 1126654454 M * misko www-mkcr:~# wget http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1126654454 M * misko --01:32:47-- http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1126654454 M * misko => `testme.sh' 1126654454 M * misko Resolving vserver.13thfloor.at... failed: Host not found. 1126654454 M * Bertl misko: that's fine, let's look at the system first, then worry about the guest 1126654469 M * misko ok second try worked ;) 1126654483 A * Bertl goes to check the nameservers ... 1126654489 M * misko should i run it under root? 1126654492 P * KeneK 1126654543 M * misko www-mkcr:~# sh testme.sh 1126654543 M * nayco_laptop Bertl: Not exactly : "repquota -a" works, but "repquota /home" no :0 !!! (-a means "all") 1126654543 M * misko Linux-VServer Test [V0.13] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 H.Poetzl 1126654543 M * misko chcontext is working. 1126654543 M * misko chbind is working. 1126654543 M * misko Linux 2.4.30-vs1.2.10 i686/0.30.204/0.30.204 [Ea] (0) 1126654545 M * misko VCI: 1126654545 M * misko --- 1126654547 M * misko [000]# succeeded. 1126654547 M * misko [001]# succeeded. 1126654549 M * misko [011]# succeeded. 1126654549 M * misko [031]# succeeded. 1126654551 M * misko [101]# succeeded. 1126654551 M * misko [102]# succeeded. 1126654553 M * misko [201]# succeeded. 1126654553 M * misko [202]# succeeded. 1126654610 M * Bertl hmm, okay, those are pretty old tools, but they should work nevertheless 1126654622 M * misko bertl: http://www.mkcr.cz/sysinfo 1126654670 M * Bertl misko: okay, so first you copied over the entire filesystem into the guest dir, right? 1126654703 M * misko y 1126654725 M * Bertl k, please check that the /var/lib/vservers/proc 1126654737 M * Bertl * /var/lib/vservers//proc 1126654753 M * Bertl exists and is a directory, and that the guest is stopped right now 1126654772 M * misko :) 1126654797 M * misko www-mkcr:~# ls -ld /home/vservers/old/proc/ 1126654797 M * misko drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2002-08-09 19:21 /home/vservers/old/proc/ 1126654813 M * maharaja Bertl: do i have to enable something in /etc/inittab to get minicom online? 1126654818 M * Bertl misko: also check that the /var/lib/vservers//dev does not contain a multitude of different device nodes, and if so, rename the dir and copy over the /dev of a working guest (should be about 8 device nodes there) 1126654848 M * Bertl maharaja: you might want to setup a 'terminal' line in inittab but that's not strictly required ... 1126654848 M * misko sorry, what's "a multitude of different device nodes" ? 1126654864 M * Bertl ls /dev/* | wc 1126654864 M * Bertl 1449 1425 11247 1126654893 M * Bertl this is what we want to see (or similar :) 1126654894 M * Bertl ls /vservers/test101/dev/* | wc 1126654894 M * Bertl 13 12 342 1126654895 M * misko www-mkcr:~# ls -l /home/vservers/old/dev/ | wc 1126654895 M * misko 5373 48372 308098 1126654912 M * maharaja Bertl: mhm - as its not required i have to look for other errors in my setup 1126654912 M * Bertl so this we call 'multitude of different device nodes' :) 1126654916 M * misko aha ok :) 1126654943 M * nayco_laptop >>Nap Attack !<< <---Arghh. 1126654946 M * misko ok, copied 1126654952 M * Bertl maharaja: without an inittab entry, you will get online while booting, then offline 1126654953 M * misko should i try to start the 'old' vserver? 1126654953 M * nayco_laptop Bertl: Have you got abough info ? 1126654959 M * misko (old is the name of the guest:) 1126654977 M * Bertl nayco_laptop: yeah, thanks, I will look into it ... have a nap! 1126654991 M * Bertl misko: not yet ... 1126655021 M * misko okay 1126655035 M * misko /dev copied 1126655053 M * Bertl the next step is to check the runlevel scripts, best done with something like: 'chroot //var/lib/vservers/old chkconfig --list' 1126655053 M * nayco_laptop Bertl: So, by a strange kind of magic, "repquota -a" work where "repquota /home" doesn't. Maybe this is a clue... Ok, Good night, !!!!! 1126655097 M * Bertl misko: you want at least one permanent service to be enable, e.g. sshd or syslogd 1126655125 Q * nayco_laptop Quit: root@ # rm -rf /vservers /* Oh dear */ 1126655176 M * Bertl misko: next thing is to check with 'chcontext --xid 42 ls /proc' that you see a bunch of (non number) entries 1126655195 M * misko okay sshd is enabled by default of course 1126655216 Q * nayco Quit: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda /* No one will see it */ 1126655218 M * maharaja Bertl: i know that youre busy... but i am giving up here 1126655219 M * maharaja : -/ 1126655222 M * misko chcontext within the chroot or how? 1126655260 M * Bertl no, just on the host 1126655269 M * Bertl maharaja: hmm, why? 1126655271 M * misko www-mkcr:~# chcontext --xid 42 ls /proc 1126655271 M * misko New security context is 42 1126655271 M * misko 1 cpuinfo execdomains interrupts kcore locks mounts scsi swaps tty 1126655271 M * misko 26891 devices filesystems iomem kmsg meminfo net self sys uptime 1126655271 M * misko bus dma fs ioports ksyms misc partitions slabinfo sysrq-trigger version 1126655271 M * misko cmdline driver ide irq loadavg modules pci stat sysvipc 1126655282 M * maharaja Bertl: because i'm not able to get minicom online 1126655288 M * Bertl misko: k, looks good ... 1126655303 M * maharaja Bertl: but am seeing the kernel bootup messages 1126655310 M * Bertl maharaja: okay, try with the following entry in inittab: 1126655349 M * Bertl s0:235:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -s 115200 -r -p "@: " -i /etc/issue.line /dev/ttyS0 1126655361 M * Bertl maharaja: then telinit Q 1126655402 M * Bertl misko: okay, now let's try with 'vserver old start' (please upload the output somewhere) 1126655449 M * misko ok starting 1126655490 M * misko bertl: www.mkcr.cz/vserver-old-start 1126655499 M * Bertl tx 1126655561 M * maharaja Bertl: done - what next? 1126655601 M * Bertl you should see a login prompt via minicom (when you press enter) unless your minicom is misconfigured or the cable is bad 1126655639 M * Bertl misko: check with vserver-stat, it seems your guest is now running (somewhat) 1126655654 M * maharaja Bertl: no login prompt 1126655657 M * maharaja :-( 1126655662 M * misko bertl: yes it is 1126655671 M * misko it was running either before 1126655683 M * maharaja echo "test" > /dev/ttyS0 on the vserver host system is still working 1126655683 M * misko but the /proc was not mounted and my postgresql does not work 1126655687 M * Bertl maharaja: first check the minicom setup (regarding handshake) 1126655697 M * misko 49169 28 522.5M 35.1K 0m00s51 0m00s28 4m09s22 old 1126655701 M * Bertl misko: I assume the proc is now mounted, no? 1126655714 M * misko www-mkcr:~# vserver old enter 1126655714 M * misko [root@www-mkcr /]# ls -l /proc 1126655714 M * misko total 0 1126655727 M * misko [root@www-mkcr /]# mount 1126655727 M * misko none on /proc type proc (defaults) 1126655727 M * misko none on /tmp type tmpfs (size=16m,mode=1777) 1126655727 M * misko none on /dev/pts type devpts (gid=5,mode=620) 1126655737 M * misko /dev/hdv1 on / type ufs (defaults) 1126655761 M * Bertl try with 'cat /proc/mounts' 1126655762 M * maharaja Bertl: where do i check thatttt? 1126655775 M * misko :) 1126655775 M * misko [root@www-mkcr /]# cat /proc/mounts 1126655775 M * misko cat: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory 1126655789 M * Bertl misko: on the host :) 1126655820 M * misko www-mkcr:~# cat /proc/mounts|grep old 1126655820 M * misko www-mkcr:~# 1126655843 M * Bertl misko: but to me it looks like tool/config issues ... I'd suggest to update to 0.30.208 util-vserver and avoid the debian version 1126655872 M * Bertl also I'd like to have a look at your config for the 'old' guest 1126655897 M * misko what do you want to see 1126655906 M * misko www-mkcr:~# ls -l /etc/vservers/old/ 1126655906 M * misko total 24 1126655906 M * misko drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2005-08-25 00:38 apps 1126655906 M * misko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12 2005-09-02 19:33 capabilities 1126655906 M * misko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 112 2005-08-25 00:38 fstab 1126655907 M * misko drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2005-08-26 12:12 interfaces 1126655907 M * misko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4 2005-09-14 00:19 name 1126655909 M * misko lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2005-09-14 00:21 run -> /var/run/vservers/old 1126655909 M * misko drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2005-08-25 00:38 uts 1126655910 M * Bertl this looks a little suspicious: /etc/rc.d/rc: /etc/rc3.d/S08iptables: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denie 1126655911 M * misko lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2005-09-14 00:21 vdir -> /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/old 1126655927 M * Bertl ah, you are using a new-style config, good! 1126655929 M * misko no, i chmodded this script to 0 just not to start :) 1126655978 M * Bertl what is in your fstab (config) 1126655995 M * misko www-mkcr:~# cat /etc/vservers/old/fstab 1126655996 M * misko none /proc proc defaults 0 0 1126655996 M * misko none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1126655996 M * misko none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0