1125619457 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1125619494 M * Bertl evening folks! 1125619522 M * Bertl douglas: I'm back now :) 1125619657 M * Bertl VooDooMaster: regarding your question: "what do I have to configure, if I want to give my vserver the same IP as the host?" 1125619695 M * douglas bertl! 1125619696 M * douglas yay! 1125619699 M * douglas I need help 1125619700 M * douglas serious help 1125619705 M * Bertl VooDooMaster: it's pretty simple, you do not specify an interface, only the IP, no alias name but instead add the nodev file to the interface config 1125619725 M * Bertl douglas: yes? with what? 1125619767 M * douglas ok 1125619782 M * douglas I'm use to the legacy method of vserver, I'm running a beta box trying to get the new vserver working 1125619811 M * douglas I'm running into quite a few snags. mainly my old scripts that I use to run aren't built new style of vserver conf 1125619833 M * douglas so I'm trying to build it without a deploy-vserver.sh script, but just using the vserver build command and I'm running into problems 1125619872 M * douglas my lab box is a debian machine. and I'm trying to start a vserver that runs debian 1125619884 M * Bertl okay ... first let's start with testme.sh 1125619888 M * douglas ok 1125619894 M * douglas does that come with util-vserver? 1125619918 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh (please upload the output somewhere, e.g. pastebin.com) 1125619988 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352382 1125620027 M * Bertl okay, that looks like you first want to install the tools properly 1125620029 M * douglas that file is actually located /lib/util-vserver/util-vserver-vars 1125620045 M * Bertl I'd say you have a mix of old and new tools 1125620056 M * douglas could be, what should I do? 1125620060 M * Bertl how did you install the old ones? (if you remember)? 1125620070 M * douglas I dont, prolly from debian package 1125620083 M * Bertl okay, you know how to deal with dpkg? 1125620091 M * douglas a little I usually use apt-get 1125620104 M * Bertl okay, IIRC dpkg -L gives a list 1125620106 J * cinix ~ViewItem@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1125620111 M * Bertl welcome cinix! 1125620126 M * cinix heya Bertl 1125620138 M * Bertl douglas: or maybe -l, grep for vserver and remove the packages (if any) 1125620151 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php 1125620169 M * cinix t 1125620198 M * cinix um. sorry about that. must have bumped the keyboard 1125620205 M * Bertl douglas: try dpkg -l | grep vserver 1125620213 M * Bertl cinix: np :) 1125620285 M * douglas rc util-vserver 0.30.204-5sarg tools for Virtual private servers and contex 1125620285 M * douglas rc vserver-debian 0.1.10 Tools to manage debian virtual servers 1125620286 M * cinix have a good night Bertl, thought I was awake enough to chat, but eyes are too heavy. time for bed 1125620288 Q * cinix Quit: 1125620354 M * Bertl douglas: okay, lets remove them first 1125620383 M * douglas ok. I've tried but it says that the package doesn't exist, using util-vserver-0.30etc.etc and util-vserver.0.30 etc.etc 1125620409 M * Bertl try util-vserver or util-vserver-0.30.204-5sarg 1125620429 M * douglas dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove util-vserver, only the config 1125620429 M * douglas files of which are on the system. Use --purge to remove them too. 1125620446 M * Bertl make that 1125620448 M * douglas so dpkg --purge util-vserver 1125620455 M * Bertl yep 1125620466 M * douglas dpkg - warning: while removing util-vserver, directory `/var/lock/subsys' not empty so not removed. 1125620469 M * douglas theres quite a few of those 1125620491 M * douglas such as /var/lib/vservers /etc/vservers/defaults 1125620499 M * Bertl that's fine 1125620530 M * Bertl I assume you built the tools by hand, right? 1125620534 M * douglas current 1125620535 M * douglas err 1125620537 M * douglas correct 1125620538 M * Bertl (the 0.30.208) 1125620547 M * douglas correct with the 02fix 1125620564 M * Bertl okay, go to the source directory, and do the following: 1125620600 M * Bertl make uninstall 1125620609 M * douglas done 1125620657 M * Bertl do you use /vservers as dir? or /var/lib/vservers ? 1125620667 M * douglas I wanna make sure I'm configuring it properly with dirs also, I dont need a $prefix, I like it in the base. so /etc/ /vservers /lib/ etc. I dont much like ot in /usr/local at all I've done configuring two ways. 1125620677 M * Bertl okay 1125620695 M * douglas ./configure --prefix=(and leaving it blank) and done ./configure --prefix=/ 1125620699 M * douglas both seem to work ok 1125620720 M * Bertl use the following: 1125620739 M * Bertl ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --with-vrootdir=/vservers 1125620759 M * Bertl and please upload the last page or so, where all the config pathes are listed to pastebin 1125620766 M * douglas roger 1125620797 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352387 1125620802 M * Bertl tx 1125620816 M * douglas looks good 1125620822 M * douglas make ? 1125620830 M * Bertl yeah, except for the sysconfdir 1125620847 M * douglas ? 1125620866 M * douglas whats the problem? 1125620913 M * Bertl ah, no, was confused, it's fine ... 1125620919 M * Bertl so let's do 'make' 1125620957 M * douglas "making" 1125620995 M * douglas done 1125621002 M * douglas make check 1125621003 M * douglas ? 1125621007 M * Bertl okay, then let's do make install 1125621017 M * Bertl (you can do make check if you like to) 1125621031 M * douglas it errored 1125621040 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352389 1125621101 M * Bertl okay, check for that dir 1125621118 M * douglas lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2005-09-01 03:39 /usr/lib/util-vserver -> /usr/local/lib/util-vserver/ 1125621127 M * Bertl just remove it 1125621136 M * Bertl rm -f /usr/lib/util-vserver 1125621142 Q * Jdogg Quit: rebooting 1125621145 M * douglas done 1125621151 M * douglas make install agian? 1125621154 M * Bertl was probably one of your experiments to get the locations right :) 1125621163 M * douglas prolly 1125621168 M * Bertl yeah, maybe with make unisntall first 1125621178 M * douglas I've been working on getting it to work for a day or so now heh 1125621201 M * douglas ok done 1125621222 M * Bertl okay, back to the testme.sh 1125621245 M * douglas same thing 1125621254 M * douglas Can not find util-vserver 1125621274 M * douglas and gives the same dir as last time 1125621280 M * Bertl okay, do the make uninstall again, and look for other links in those pathes 1125621313 M * Bertl try to remove all util-vserver related dirs, except for the guest configs (if you still need them) 1125621327 M * douglas nope 1125621329 M * douglas this is a test box 1125621331 M * douglas I can remove everything 1125621334 M * douglas doesn't bother me 1125621358 M * Bertl okay, the something like 'find / -name '*vserver*' 1125621372 M * Bertl could identify interesting pathes 1125621414 M * douglas yea quite a bit. 1125621437 M * ray6 reee... 1125621439 M * douglas I think maybe in regards to vserver-debian 0.1.10 1125621444 M * Bertl hey ray6! wb! 1125621444 M * douglas that I had installed 1125621473 M * Bertl if not already done so, you might want to --purge that one too 1125621478 M * ray6 bertl: just arrived in nyc 1125621491 M * Bertl cool, how is the weather? 1125621494 M * douglas I can't seem to find the package 1125621499 M * ray6 warm :) 1125621545 M * ray6 the flynet was very cool 1125621617 M * douglas bertl 1125621622 M * douglas should I remove all of these? 1125621631 M * douglas and I purged that package as well 1125621715 M * Bertl douglas: if it's a test box, go ahead 1125621725 M * douglas theres like two pages of dirs lol 1125621742 M * Bertl just don't remove the source :) 1125621824 M * Aiken Bertl was chatting with douglas last night. I could reproduce one problem he was having 1125621826 M * douglas done 1125621829 M * douglas make install? 1125621842 M * Aiken if /vserver/name is a mount point a vserver build fails 1125621861 M * Bertl Aiken: yeah, unfortunately, known bug in util-vserver 1125621867 M * douglas ahh 1125621878 M * Bertl yes, make install 1125621887 M * douglas glad I wasn't loosing my marbles bertl 1125621888 M * douglas :) 1125621891 M * Bertl and it suggest a 'make install-distro' or so? 1125621896 M * douglas GAH 1125621901 M * douglas yea 1125621905 M * Bertl do that too 1125621919 M * douglas what does that mean? 1125621925 M * douglas are you suppose to make install-debian ? 1125621931 M * douglas or just type make install-distribution 1125621931 M * douglas ? 1125621938 M * Bertl the latter one 1125621949 M * Bertl it does some one time setups 1125621953 M * douglas nope 1125621956 M * menomc hi Bertl 1125621959 M * douglas its still looking for that file 1125621963 N * menomc mnemoc 1125621977 M * Bertl welcome mnemoc! 1125621982 M * douglas Can not find util-vserver installation 1125621990 M * Bertl sec 1125622031 M * Bertl douglas: let's try vserver-info - SYSINFO and upload that too please 1125622082 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352405 1125622084 M * Bertl and in the meanwhile, try: 'make uninstall clean' 1125622095 M * Bertl 'make && make install' 1125622109 M * Bertl gah 1125622120 M * Bertl it's the sysconfdir I was complaining about 1125622126 M * douglas its wrong? 1125622132 M * mnemoc Bertl: 2.0.1-pre2 seems to work fine on 2.6.11.12 but i haven't tried it on production 1125622150 M * Bertl douglas: it should have a path there ... let's see what the clean/build does 1125622156 M * douglas ok 1125622172 M * douglas do I need to reconfigure? or no? test just making and make installing once more? 1125622177 M * Bertl mnemoc: good, let me know what systems you tested on 1125622187 M * douglas its going 1125622191 M * Bertl douglas: yeah, redo the configure step 1125622195 M * douglas err 1125622198 M * douglas thanks for telling me 1125622209 M * douglas :) 1125622213 M * Bertl :) 1125622231 M * douglas using ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --with-vrootdir=/vservers 1125622232 M * douglas still? 1125622252 M * Bertl yes, until I figure where to set the initrd?? dir 1125622291 M * mnemoc Bertl: on the sandbox i got problems with 1.2.11-rc1... the vq patch fail to apply on many places... what's the future of vq patch? 1125622303 M * douglas you want me to paste the results of ./configure? 1125622309 M * douglas in pastebin I mean 1125622334 M * Bertl no, check them the sysconfdir should not be there 1125622341 M * douglas it is 1125622354 M * douglas sysconf-Directory: /etc 1125622355 M * douglas cfg-Directory: /etc/vservers 1125622355 M * douglas initrd-Directory: $(sysconfdir)/init.d 1125622388 M * Bertl mnemoc: vq? we have q0.14 for that, but vq? 1125622419 M * douglas so what ya think bertl? 1125622426 M * Bertl mnemoc: and it's only for shared quota support (so an addon) 1125622441 M * mnemoc Bertl: yes, my fault. patch-2.4.27-vs1.29-q0.14.diff.bz2 1125622455 M * Bertl douglas: your debian system is borked .. but don't worry, most distros are nowadays ... 1125622463 M * douglas so what should I do? 1125622475 M * Bertl douglas: (i.e. give me a few minutes to figure out how to override this) 1125622483 M * douglas ok 1125622483 M * mnemoc Bertl: s/vq/vs1.29-q0.14/ 1125622486 M * douglas no problem 1125622487 M * Bertl douglas: my debian installation has a sane entry there :) 1125622530 M * douglas I would hate to have to reinstall the whole thing to be honest. 1125622534 M * Bertl mnemoc: when I get around I'll update the q0.14, for now, maybe make it optional? 1125622555 M * mnemoc Bertl: an optional part of 1.2.12? 1125622558 M * douglas its a test box but I'm not there at location so I would have to have my biz part do it and hes pretty busy so it could be quite some time before I could get it reinstalled. 1125622585 M * mnemoc Bertl: that would be very nice 1125622631 M * Bertl douglas: could you upload the output of: './configure --prefix=/usr' and './configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc' (last page again) please? 1125622659 M * Bertl douglas: maybe also remove the source dir, and unpack+install from the tar again? 1125622722 M * Bertl mnemoc: well, the quota patch is only required for user/group quota and disk limits on a shared partition, so it's an addon ... 1125622767 M * Bertl the disk limits are included in the 2.0 release, the shared quota is missing there too ... will be in the devel branch sooner or later 1125622797 M * mnemoc oh, i thought both where part of 2.0... 1125622828 M * mnemoc were* 1125622912 J * goku ~beefjunk@71-36-66-30.slkc.qwest.net 1125622927 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352410 1125622958 M * mnemoc douglas: why /pastebin.php?dl=352410 1125622964 M * mnemoc and not /352410 1125623040 M * Bertl welcome goku! 1125623051 M * goku Hi Bertl! 1125623054 M * Bertl mnemoc: because it looks nicer :) 1125623067 M * mnemoc :) 1125623067 M * goku I'm back - trying to figure out bcapabilities now :) 1125623150 M * douglas am I doomed bertl? 1125623169 M * douglas mnemoc cuz thats the link it gives me for download ? 1125623208 M * goku Anyone know of a good example somewhere for use of bcapabilities in vs-2.0? I've checked the flower page, but I can't seem to get it working. 1125623216 M * Bertl douglas: no, I guess not, let me check the options ... 1125623238 M * Aiken the paths section looks the same as mine 1125623255 M * Bertl Aiken: really? 1125623311 M * Aiken http://pastebin.com/352417 1125623316 M * Aiken the good old aplha 1125623318 M * Bertl douglas: well, then let's try again with the make and install 1125623330 M * mnemoc douglas: i guess it's me, but downloading is more unconfortable than viewing inline :) 1125623354 M * Aiken just did my normal configure in this athlon http://pastebin.com/352418 1125623360 M * Bertl mnemoc: I disagree, it shows quite fine in my browser, just as text instead of the html stuff 1125623386 M * Bertl mnemoc, douglas: so I quite prefer the download url :) 1125623415 M * mnemoc :) 1125623479 M * Bertl douglas: and let's try the testme.sh with -vv option 1125623751 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352423 1125623762 M * Bertl Aiken: COW still working like a charm? 1125623801 M * Aiken yes 1125623810 M * Aiken I really like the cow setup 1125623827 M * Bertl hmm ... 1125623838 M * Aiken the disk cost of a new vsever is so small 1125623845 M * Bertl douglas: please do 'which chbind && which chcontext' 1125623888 M * Bertl Aiken: yeah, that's why unification was introduced in the first place 1125623915 M * douglas /usr/local/sbin/chbind 1125623916 M * douglas /usr/local/sbin/chcontext 1125623925 M * Bertl aah, here we go :) 1125623942 M * Bertl let's remove all the local stuff too 1125623953 M * Bertl rm -rf /usr/local/* 1125623958 M * Aiken still using 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5 and no more oops 1125623999 M * Bertl good, that's how it is supposed to be 1125624015 M * Bertl Aiken: do you see a chance to test the following setup: 1125624050 M * Bertl vserver host with guest on remote machine (via NFS) but the NFS server is vserver patched (including COW) 1125624051 M * Aiken that vxdprintk in namei.c is still commented out 1125624068 M * douglas dont I have other stuff in there tho 1125624088 M * Bertl Aiken: so basically XID tagging and COW breaking over NFS? :) 1125624095 M * douglas python2.3 has a dir in /usr/local/lib 1125624106 M * Bertl okay, let it live :) 1125624118 M * Aiken If I setup this machine up as a nfs server I could that test 1125624129 M * douglas rm everything else? 1125624151 M * Bertl everything which looks remotely util-vserver related 1125624164 M * Bertl (it's a leftover from one of your previous installs) 1125624168 M * douglas ok 1125624169 M * douglas done 1125624174 M * douglas uninstall make install? 1125624176 M * Bertl then try the script again 1125624182 M * Bertl no make required 1125624186 M * douglas YAY 1125624204 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352427 1125624205 M * Bertl you installed the tools quite fine, but your path order preferred the old ones 1125624222 M * Bertl yay indeed :) 1125624224 M * douglas I'll make sure to smack my biz partner around a couple of times for doing that 1125624226 M * douglas :) 1125624239 M * douglas I didn't install the debs 1125624244 M * douglas he did and then was like, here you do that stuff 1125624247 M * douglas heh 1125624249 M * Bertl now let's continue to your 'install' line 1125624254 M * douglas ok 1125624263 M * Bertl could you repaste it please? 1125624310 M * douglas vserver vs2P build -m debootstrap --context 42 --force -- -d sarge --hostname vs2P --interface eth0:192.168.1.112 1125624345 M * Bertl now, the 'options' (i.e. --hostname, --interface ..) have to go where the '*' is in the example 1125624356 M * Bertl so you might want to try the following: 1125624400 M * Bertl vserver vs2P build -m debootstrap --force --context 42 --hostname vs2P --interface eth0:192.168.1.112/24 -- -d sarge 1125624408 M * Bertl and if that fails, you might add: 1125624416 M * douglas ok now lets say I have guest images for example from http://debian.marlow.dk/vserver/guest/ how would I use those? 1125624417 M * Bertl * -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian 1125624428 M * Bertl (without the *) 1125624457 M * Bertl douglas: you would use the -m skeleton build method instead of the debootstrap 1125624479 M * Bertl and remove the 'options' passed after the '--' (which are for debootstrap) 1125624497 M * douglas I: Retrieving debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_Release 1125624497 M * douglas I: Validating debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_Release 1125624516 M * Bertl then, after it is done (very fast) unpack the guest image over the /vservers/ dir 1125624569 M * douglas and it should run like normal? 1125624584 M * douglas installing using debootstrap 1125624608 M * Bertl yes, you might have to cleanup the guest a little .. depending on the debootstrap version 1125624624 M * Bertl but that is not really necessary, just consmetics ... 1125624626 M * douglas but it should start like normal 1125624629 M * Bertl *cosmetics 1125624757 M * douglas its installing, you are the MAN bertl, holy crap I was about to commit harry-carry 1125625095 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1125625132 M * Bertl and as usual, it was concattenation of unfortunate things ... 1125625139 M * Bertl -t 1125625196 M * Bertl douglas: if you'd installed the tools (with whatever pathes) once and from the source, it'd probably worked at the first attempt :) 1125625264 M * Bertl but as tradition (for linux), we give you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot :) 1125625510 M * douglas heh 1125625511 M * douglas :) 1125625527 M * douglas that was my biz partner, and dont worry, hes going to get quite a schlacking from me 1125625751 M * douglas The following problem(s) were encountered while verifying vshelper 1125625751 M * douglas functionality: 1125625751 M * douglas * The configured vshelper '//lib/util-vserver/vshelper' does not match the 'vshelper' 1125625751 M * douglas script of the util-vserver package 1125625761 M * douglas echo "/usr/lib/util-vserver/vshelper" >/proc/sys/kernel/vshelper ? 1125625928 M * douglas yup that works 1125626797 M * douglas hey bertl 1125626803 M * douglas whats the replacement program for traceroute ? 1125626810 M * Bertl tracepath? 1125626871 M * Bertl but adding the raw_icmp 'ccap' should make it work inside a guest too 1125626902 M * douglas hmm 1125626919 M * douglas how do I add teh raw_icmp cap? 1125626939 M * Bertl you know the flower page? 1125626957 M * douglas I remember it 1125626962 M * douglas I need to book mark it 1125626964 M * Bertl (it describes all the config options) 1125626966 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1125626975 M * Bertl look for ccap 1125626983 M * douglas can we get that on a diff background? :) 1125626988 M * douglas I mean does it have to be annoying? 1125626999 M * Bertl hmm, change the sylesheet, no? 1125627012 M * Bertl (it provides several of them :) 1125627188 M * douglas I'm trying to find what file to edit 1125627236 M * Bertl /etc/vservers//ccapabilities 1125627256 M * douglas it doesn't exist by defeault? 1125627262 M * Bertl nope 1125627285 M * Bertl just do 'echo "raw_icmp" >/etc/vservers//ccapabilities 1125627292 M * douglas restart? 1125627309 M * Bertl yep, or you can use vattribute to set it while running 1125627324 M * Bertl (no 'update' functionality yet) 1125627348 M * douglas hey on startup I get quite a few errors with the umount command 1125627395 M * Bertl umount? on startup? you mean shutdown, no? 1125627456 M * douglas perhaps shutdown 1125627468 M * Bertl IIRC, there is a *killall runlevel script or something like that, which tries to shutdown hardware stuff too ... unconfiguring it solves those (noncritical) issues 1125627485 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352454 1125627487 M * douglas that normal? 1125627503 M * Bertl yep 1125627519 M * Bertl as I said, the guest can benefit from a cleanup 1125627535 M * Bertl (removing hardware related startup/shutdown scripts) 1125627572 M * Bertl in an ideal world, the debian folks would provide proper cleanup scripts for util-vserver :) 1125627622 M * Aiken have a new kernel compiled for your test, I am doing a full system back first before I risk anything with this system 1125627638 M * Bertl there are hooks, initpre and initpost, for every distro in /etc/vservers/.distributions/ 1125627652 M * Bertl Aiken: yeah, good idea! 1125627764 M * douglas you talking to me bertl? 1125627780 Q * ag- Remote host closed the connection 1125627789 M * douglas not for debian it seems 1125627790 M * douglas lol 1125627790 M * douglas :) 1125627791 M * Bertl douglas: partially :) 1125627807 M * Bertl douglas: hooks doesn't mean scripts :) 1125627832 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx 1125627957 M * Bertl wb ag-! 1125628621 M * Aiken just read your latest messages to the mailing list 1125628630 M * Aiken I'll admit to trying udev in guest 1125628636 M * Aiken did not work 1125628646 M * douglas ok bertl 1125628654 M * douglas I did what you said for using the images and it wont start 1125628696 M * Bertl ah, wait, let me get my glass ball ... 1125628791 M * douglas hehe 1125628814 M * douglas http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=352469 1125628875 M * Bertl what 'guest' image did you use 1125628887 M * douglas slack109 1125628890 M * douglas slack10 1125628917 M * Bertl and you copied the 'dir' where the 'original' was right after doing the skeleton build? 1125628941 M * douglas well I rmed /dev/ and /etc 1125628945 M * douglas err 1125628953 M * douglas not / but vs2P/dev etc 1125628970 M * Bertl removed? 1125628975 M * douglas yea 1125628978 M * douglas was I not suppose to? 1125628997 M * Bertl well, I assumed you wanted to _isntall_ a guest image there, no? 1125629013 M * douglas yes, but the image already had a /etc and a /dev dir 1125629029 M * Bertl image or result of the skeleton build? 1125629061 M * douglas image has a /etc and a /dev the skelton created a /dev and a /etc which I removed and then copied over the from the guest image 1125629081 M * Bertl but _all_ files from the image, right? 1125629100 M * Bertl or just the /etc and /dev? 1125629113 M * Bertl well, anyway, the 'correct' procedure would be: 1125629122 M * Bertl - do the -m skeleton build 1125629124 M * douglas all files 1125629140 M * douglas so is it missing something then? 1125629146 M * Bertl - then extract the guest image _over_ that (maybe leaving out the /dev) 1125629172 M * Bertl but it might be that slackware requires a different init style 1125629189 M * Bertl (which could be specified with --initstyle IIRC 1125629334 M * Bertl ... you might try --initstyle plain ) 1125629399 M * douglas where would I use --initstyle plain ? 1125629421 M * Bertl when you do the skeleton build, like the --context 42 option 1125629428 M * douglas ahh 1125629436 M * Bertl ah, and make sure to use a different context id :) 1125629444 M * douglas yea 1125629445 M * douglas :) 1125629508 M * douglas does that do something to the files in /vservers/vs2P or to the config files in /etc/vservers ? 1125629511 M * douglas the init style? 1125629526 M * Bertl just config 1125629541 M * Bertl but it will move your guest out of the way ... 1125629606 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125629622 M * douglas yup 1125629628 M * douglas needed initstyle 1125629633 M * douglas redhat I take it is the same way? 1125629648 M * douglas vsroot-lab1:/vservers# vserver vs2P enter 1125629648 M * douglas /dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted 1125629649 M * Bertl rh should be fine with sysv init 1125629652 M * douglas lol I still get in it 1125629661 M * douglas it just gives me an error thats all 1125629706 M * Bertl well, nobody said that the images are working ... 1125629717 M * Bertl I never used them, so I really don't know 1125629769 M * douglas thanks 1125629822 M * Bertl where did you say you had them from? 1125630047 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1125630065 M * douglas http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/vserver 1125630086 M * douglas http://debian.marlow.dk/vserver/guest/ 1125630393 M * Bertl okay, give me a minute to get the slack image and test it 1125630405 M * Bertl or did the slack work for you after changing to plain init? 1125630443 M * douglas slack 1125630449 M * douglas slack worked 1125630453 M * douglas after changing to plain init 1125630460 M * Bertl so the rh, is the failing one? 1125630465 M * douglas haven't tried the rh 1125630476 M * Bertl ah, so everything fine :) 1125630491 M * douglas question, if I dont include the --context will it grab on random? or is it good practice to increment that number? 43 44 45 etc 1125630521 M * Bertl it will grab a random one, but every time you start the guest, which isn't a good thing (TM) 1125630580 M * douglas ahh 1125630585 M * douglas so its best to increment that number 1125630642 M * Bertl either that or make it meaningful ... 1125630658 M * Bertl for example you could keep it in sync with the last IPnumber 1125630664 M * douglas ahh 1125630666 M * douglas gotcha 1125630685 M * Bertl it hast to stay between 2 and 49151 though . 1125631309 J * hillct ~hillct@client200-5.dsl.intrex.net 1125631401 M * douglas I dont know of nay ip that ends in .49151 :) 1125631405 M * douglas hehe 1125631447 M * Bertl well, you might use more than one octet, or just use a different scheme 1125631537 M * Bertl for technical reasons, the xid is 16bit, the values 0 and 1 are reserved (host context and spectator context) and the range 49152-65535 is used for dynamic xids) 1125632151 M * hillct oh fun 1125632171 Q * maharaja Quit: changing servers 1125632188 J * maharaja maharaja@ip52.ipax.at 1125632196 M * hillct seems the util-vserver 208 rpm spec file has a faulty dependency 1125632216 M * hillct requires xalan-j 1125632227 M * hillct in FC4 it's called xalan-j2 1125632233 M * hillct so the dependency always fails 1125632259 A * hillct messes with the spec file 1125632270 M * Bertl well, you have to adjust it for every distro 1125632283 M * Bertl for example mandrake has vlan instead of vconfig 1125632307 M * Bertl aside from that, IIRC, you can build without the documentation too 1125632323 A * Bertl never installed xalan whatever :) 1125632338 M * hillct os is that the source of the dependency? 1125632339 M * hillct K 1125632341 M * hillct cook 1125632345 M * hillct cool 1125632391 M * hillct there's a way to do conditional deps 1125632662 M * Bertl yep, okay, I'm off to bed now ... have a nice whatever everyone! 1125632676 M * Bertl cya all tomorrow ... 1125632681 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1125632733 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1125635394 M * douglas hey 1125635397 M * douglas dam 1125635400 M * douglas missed him 1125635435 M * douglas hey I gotta a question, is networking done diff from legacy to new? cuz before I use to see eth0.vserver on the host machine and inside a vserver I do a ifconfig -a and all I see a eth0 but I dont see an ip either. 1125636092 M * Aiken the networking is done differently, you will need someone else to explain exactly 1125636109 M * Aiken on the host you can see the address in use with ip addr list 1125636131 M * douglas ahh 1125636132 M * douglas nice 1125636132 M * douglas ok 1125636145 M * douglas I thought it was done differn't just wasn't 100% sure that I wasn't forgetting something 1125636149 M * Aiken http://pastebin.com/352523 1125636191 M * douglas so you have 1 vserver? 1125636231 M * Aiken 2 1125636248 M * Aiken 172,16.27.3 is the host, the other 2 are vsevers 1125636812 M * dddd44 i read the wiki about crazy frog.. wiki is 1125636812 M * dddd44 editable.. is the info accurate?? why they 1125636812 M * dddd44 allow public editing in wiki?? ppl can 1125636812 M * dddd44 sabotage the info and exploit it..anyone?? 1125638137 M * HostingGeek hehe 1125638882 Q * goku Read error: Connection reset by peer 1125639542 J * Jdogg Jdogg@c-67-166-194-9.hsd1.tx.comcast.net 1125642381 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1125644014 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1125644518 Q * dddd44 Remote host closed the connection 1125646156 Q * litage Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125646952 J * litage ~nick@203.201.96.106 1125647464 J * Neubix ~brian@p54B03AEC.dip.t-dialin.net 1125647473 M * Neubix H @all 1125647502 M * Neubix can someone tell me how to install Suse in a vserver over the network (ftp/http) ? 1125648352 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1125649870 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1125652121 Q * douglas Quit: 1125652601 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1125653060 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio281.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1125653080 M * Milf Moin 1125653308 N * BobR_afk BobR 1125653448 N * BobR BobR_afk 1125653958 M * Milf Anyone awake? :) 1125654265 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125655067 M * SG_ anybody know size of memory page in linux kernel 2.6? it seems 2k instead of 4k. Is it true? 1125655067 A * SG_ is back. 1125655258 Q * Pazzo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125655888 Q * lonewolff Read error: Connection reset by peer 1125655975 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host86-128-17-74.range86-128.btcentralplus.com 1125656148 Q * nox arion.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1125656151 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1125657378 M * Neubix someone know this tool for vserver ?? http://forum.webhostlist.de/show/showthread.php?t=62221 (it's in german) 1125657519 Q * Nicoli Read error: Connection reset by peer 1125657934 J * Nicoli ask@208.53.159.170 1125659343 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1125659816 Q * Jdogg Read error: Connection reset by peer 1125659843 J * Jdogg Jdogg@c-67-166-194-9.hsd1.tx.comcast.net 1125660364 Q * litage Remote host closed the connection 1125660562 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1125661090 Q * Neubix Quit: Verlassend 1125661596 Q * flock Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125662472 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1125662478 M * Bertl morning folks! 1125662481 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1125662494 M * Bertl SG_: hmm, should be 4k on x86 ... 1125663393 J * tc ~sr@213.146.121.144 1125663437 M * tc hi. I forgot to run vprocunhide before starting up a vserver and now it won't come back down 1125663449 M * tc is there an analogue to kill -9 for vservers? 1125663525 M * Bertl did you do the vprocunhide yet? 1125663530 M * tc yes 1125663541 M * tc I can't mount /proc from within the vserver though 1125663546 M * tc says "permission denied" 1125663552 M * Bertl what happens on 'vserver stop' if you wait 30 seconds? 1125663637 M * tc the last line I get is "Sending all processes the KILL signal...mount: permission denied \n done." 1125663642 M * tc then it just hangs there 1125663655 M * Bertl longer than 30 seconds? 1125663657 M * tc vserver-stat shows the vserver to be alive and kicking with 2 processes though 1125663698 M * Bertl okay, please give http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh a try (on the host) and upload the output tsomewhere (e.g. pastebin.com) 1125663716 M * tc server, not guest 1125663749 M * tc everything succeeds 1125663751 M * Bertl yep, host ~ physical server, guest ~ vps 1125663789 M * tc http://pastebin.com/352707 1125663845 M * Bertl and please the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' too ... 1125663889 M * tc http://pastebin.com/352710 1125663898 M * Bertl tx 1125663913 M * Bertl # 1125663913 M * Bertl Use dietlibc: no (you have been warned) 1125663931 M * tc haven't had problems til now ;) 1125663932 M * Bertl if you recompile with dietlibc, the guest will be stopped after 30 seconds or so 1125663947 M * Bertl but you can also use vkill to stop the context 1125663949 M * tc ok, I thought there were just issues with chroot stuff without dietlibc 1125663957 M * tc ah, great 1125663977 M * Bertl the issues with glibc are not always obvious ... 1125663996 M * tc so what's the cause of the problems with glibc vs. dietlibc? 1125664033 M * Bertl I guess most tools are written for glibc, and tested there, Enrico decided to use dietlibc, so it's written for and tested there ... 1125664067 M * tc great, the server is gone and now back up 1125664069 M * tc thanks 1125664077 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1125664280 P * tc Leaving 1125666781 J * Doener ~doener@p54873E25.dip.t-dialin.net 1125666920 M * Doener morning folks 1125668418 M * Bertl morning Doener! 1125668469 N * BobR_afk BobR 1125668691 Q * mnemoc Quit: leaving 1125668719 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.75.27.38 1125668912 Q * xcyborg Remote host closed the connection 1125668916 N * BobR BobR_afk 1125668975 J * xcyborg ~service@ns.bitdefender.com 1125669925 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ... 1125669932 N * BobR_afk BobR 1125669936 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1125670352 J * vip2005 ~vip@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com 1125670670 Q * xcyborg Remote host closed the connection 1125672257 Q * vip2005 Quit: 1125673357 N * BobR BobR_oO 1125673548 P * Milf 1125674351 Q * tchan Quit: leaving 1125674626 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1125674631 Q * hillct Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com 1125674724 J * hillct ~hillct@client200-5.dsl.intrex.net 1125674801 M * hillct I'm seeing a failed test when building client tools 2.08 on x86_64 1125674824 M * hillct testsuite/fmt which appears to be an integer length test fails 1125674882 M * hillct which makes sense I guess, but does anyone have a feel for whether it's just a faulty test or there was something introduced in the code between 206 and 208 that would be problematic in this regard? 1125674910 M * daniel_hozac 2.08 == 0.30.208, or? 1125674919 M * hillct yes 1125675296 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125675410 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190134.sonofon.dk 1125675527 M * hillct hmm. It may be the spec file 1125675562 M * hillct fmt passes when built and tested by hand 1125675608 M * hillct could be something platform specific in the spec file 1125675610 M * hillct checking 1125675842 Q * tchan Quit: leaving 1125676057 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125676562 M * hillct I don't see anything... 1125676590 M * daniel_hozac are you ./configure'ing with the exact same options? 1125676604 M * hillct yup 1125676610 M * hillct er 1125676621 M * hillct there's a path option in there 1125676630 A * hillct tries again 1125676636 M * hillct but that makes no sense 1125676672 M * daniel_hozac _a_ path? %configure expands to 10+ paths here. 1125676716 M * hillct I mean the call to the configure script 1125676738 M * daniel_hozac right. 1125676746 M * daniel_hozac %configure is used in the spec file. 1125676814 M * daniel_hozac the easiest thing to do is just copy the output from rpmbuild to try to duplicate the results. 1125676837 M * hillct but there's nothing different in those paths than what the configure script uses when run by hand 1125676864 M * hillct except to specify the build root 1125676869 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1125676870 M * hillct which should be fine 1125677659 Q * tchan Quit: leaving 1125677666 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125678076 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1125678295 Q * tchan Quit: Lost terminal 1125678474 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125679298 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1125679334 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-137.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1125679449 Q * tchan Quit: Lost terminal 1125679533 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125680727 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125681090 Q * tchan Quit: leaving 1125681120 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1125681260 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125681533 Q * tchan Quit: 1125682046 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1125682418 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125682603 J * tchan_ ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1125682757 T * services.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0, 2.0.1-pre2, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0-pre5 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1125682787 Q * tchan Killed (NickServ command used by tchan_) 1125682800 N * tchan_ tchan 1125687548 J * Crushing billing@sigma-0715.bdg.trisetia.net 1125687592 P * Crushing 1125689907 Q * benevserver Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125691354 J * benevserver ~benevserv@p54AC795C.dip.t-dialin.net 1125691437 J * brc bruce@201008060241.user.veloxzone.com.br 1125691442 M * brc hi 1125691518 M * benevserver i installed on my debian sys the vserver patch and all that stuff ... the vservers are running but now i have trouble to get online with my whole debian vhost + vservers... i have connection in my lan and can do everything like ftp, ssh, ... i worked befor i made a reboot!!! i have a router on the ip 192.168.1.150 and my vhost has the ip 192.168.1.2 all the vserver have the ips 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.20. i googled a lot but there is no 1125691589 M * benevserver some ideas? 1125691708 M * Blissex benevserver: it does not seem clear to me what your config is like or the probkem is. 1125691725 M * benevserver ohh, okay 1125691789 M * Blissex benevserver: but note that the kernel is shared among all the vserver partitions... so are the routing tables and the network interfaces. 1125691825 M * Blissex benevserver: so consider reading 'man chbind' and figuring out the implications of that. 1125691835 M * benevserver well i have all conection in my lan. that means i can use ftp, ssh, and all that stuff in my lan ... i can download files to my vhost from my own computer. however i can not download / do anything over the internet. 1125691909 M * Blissex benevserver: not even from the ''main'' non vserver ''partition''? 1125691935 M * benevserver not even from there 1125691951 M * Blissex benevserver: then most likely you no longer have a ''default'' route... 1125691953 M * benevserver ai tried apt-get update or apt-get install some paket 1125691987 M * Blissex benevserver: run 'route' and check there is a line that begins with 'default' and points to 192.168.1.150 1125692024 M * Blissex benevserver: if there is none, edit '/etc/network/interfaces to make sure that there is a default gateway entry... 1125692026 M * benevserver kaka i have big troubel at the moment ... i am right back 1125692028 M * benevserver sorry 1125692275 M * benevserver back 1125692292 M * benevserver sorry about that 1125693106 M * benevserver so i checked route 1125693115 M * benevserver default 192.168.1.150 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 1125693120 M * benevserver its in there 1125693201 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-5-17.dclient.hispeed.ch 1125693847 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1125693956 Q * Blissex Read error: Connection reset by peer 1125695032 J * kas_3 debian-tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1125695215 Q * nox arion.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1125695235 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125695322 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1125696481 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1125697217 Q * Jdogg Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125697618 Q * daniel_hozac Read error: Connection reset by peer 1125697639 J * Jdogg Jdogg@c-67-166-194-9.hsd1.tx.comcast.net 1125697760 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1125698513 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125698763 Q * benevserver Quit: 1125699033 M * brc anyone alive 1125699337 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1125699363 M * renihs hi 1125699456 M * renihs hmm this is strange, i have multiple vserver in a private subnet (192.168.5.0/24) beeing routed to different lans, but since yesterday i couldnt reach a few boxes anymore (restarting vserver didnt help) 1125699507 M * renihs adding the mac address from the vserver hosts ip/dev fixed the problem (no arp reply?), but that wasnt necessary until now 1125700410 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1125700416 J * Doener ~doener@p54874556.dip.t-dialin.net 1125702663 J * ntrs ~ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1125703533 Q * renihs Remote host closed the connection