1125273615 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1125273643 J * Doener ~doener@p54874DC1.dip.t-dialin.net
1125274656 M * renihs hmm, i am trying to raise ulimits on a guest, but i am not quite sure on howto approach, i have /etc/vservers/bla/rlimits/nofile (12000), and /proc/virtual/<context>/limit shows 12000 
1125274674 M * renihs but i still get operation not permitted, hmm
1125274786 M * Bertl ulimit != rlimit
1125274804 M * Bertl you might want to add similar to /etc/vservers/bla/ulimits/nofile
1125274809 M * renihs ..argl ..yes ofc
1125274900 M * renihs hmm now it shows unlimited hmm
1125274916 M * Bertl check with ulimit -H and -S
1125274938 M * renihs both show unlimited 
1125274953 M * Bertl testme.sh output?
1125274979 M * renihs gruml, you happen to have the dl url close? :)
1125275008 M * renihs got it 
1125275139 M * renihs says succeeded
1125275182 M * renihs i am sure thats some crap from me, bla, will look into that tomorow i think :)
1125275213 M * Bertl could you paste the first 5 lines?
1125275238 M * renihs Linux-VServer Test [V0.13] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 H.Poetzl
1125275239 M * renihs chcontext is working.
1125275239 M * renihs chbind is working.
1125275239 M * renihs Linux 2.6.12-vs2.0.embnet.livedvd i686/0.30.208/0.30.208 [Ea] (4)
1125275239 M * renihs VCI:  0002:0001 273 030000f6
1125275275 M * Bertl hmm, ulimits should be honored there, any error on guest startup?
1125275298 M * renihs hmm none that i am aware of
1125275391 M * renihs hmm now i removed the rlimits dir (rlimits / ulimits had both file "nofile") and now it shows 12000
1125275430 M * renihs hmm not reproduceable, gruml, 
1125275438 M * renihs i guess i should get sleep :)
1125275927 M * Aiken_ 63 minutes of testing with 2 cows and neither cow did an oops
1125275936 M * Bertl good!
1125275964 M * Aiken_ this is very promising
1125276102 M * Aiken_ if that lot makes sense it shows why I am very happy with it http://pastebin.com/348823
1125276506 M * Bertl hehe yes ..
1125278807 M * Bertl Aiken_: so it basically looks like the COW stuff is really working for you, right?
1125280370 M * Aiken_ correct
1125280421 M * Aiken_ both cows seem to be updating/running quite well independant of each other and the master image
1125281595 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host245.201-252-8.telecom.net.ar
1125281606 Q * keyser_soze Quit: 
1125284745 Q * Nicoli Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )
1125285643 J * Brutus ask@208.53.159.170
1125285671 M * Bertl welcome Brutus! :)
1125285778 N * Brutus Nicoli
1125286095 Q * Nicoli Read error: Connection reset by peer
1125286782 J * Nicoli ask@208.53.159.170
1125286803 M * Nicoli .
1125287185 J * menomc ~amery@200.75.27.51
1125287210 M * Bertl welome menomc!
1125287295 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1125288413 M * menomc hi Bertl :)
1125288420 M * menomc Bertl: OT: when do you sleep?
1125288423 N * menomc mnemoc
1125288437 M * Bertl hmmm .. good question :)
1125288481 M * mnemoc :)
1125290075 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax8-182.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1125290391 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1125290847 M * Aiken__ 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5
1125290864 M * Bertl wow!
1125290927 M * Aiken__ except for the version info in the top level Makefile pre5 applied cleanly
1125290932 M * Bertl congrats, you're the first one :)
1125290943 M * Aiken__ :)
1125290958 N * Aiken__ Aiken
1125292773 Q * obi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1125292796 J * obi ~obi@asus.saftware.de
1125293036 M * Hollow morning
1125293078 M * Bertl morning Hollow!
1125293092 M * Hollow oi, 2.6.13 is out?
1125293114 M * Bertl yep
1125293852 M * Hollow Bertl: hm, how do i set one process as the fakeinit?
1125293886 M * Bertl when you have the fakeinit flag set, and finish setup, the current process becomes the init
1125293923 M * Hollow fakeinit flag is? INFO_INIT?
1125294014 M * Bertl VXF_STATE_INIT
1125294046 M * Bertl is the trigger
1125294049 M * Hollow ok, and i end setup with STATE_SETUP?
1125294087 M * Bertl yep, but I just verified, clearing VXF_STATE_INIT sets the initpid
1125294118 M * Hollow so, is set it on vx_create and after i clreaed the current becomes init
1125294122 M * Hollow s/is/i/
1125294134 M * Bertl yep
1125294208 M * Hollow so, we need chaining again..?
1125294241 M * Bertl well, a lot of those triggers were designed _because_ of that chaining
1125294259 M * Bertl I have no problem at all to create 'new' interfaces if they make sense ...
1125294271 M * Hollow ok, i'd like to do it without chaining then ;)
1125294306 M * Hollow many things work without chaining, but specially these setup things are bit tricky
1125294331 M * Bertl np, we add a vc_set_init_pid ...
1125294337 M * Hollow great
1125294390 M * Hollow i already managed to enter a guest with my tools, so we can start to do something productive ;)
1125294401 M * Bertl excellent!
1125294421 M * Hollow they're nearly completed btw.. only some syscalls left
1125294776 M * Nicoli http://208.53.159.170:8000
1125294817 M * Hollow hentaiplanet? :)
1125294916 M * Nicoli yea heh
1125294933 M * Nicoli i culd chnage it to my hsoting biz but them ppl would think i was spamming
1125294944 M * Nicoli its not laggin is it ?
1125294950 M * Hollow oh i don't listen ;)
1125294967 M * Nicoli wouljda ?
1125294971 A * Hollow is listening to Global Underground ;)
1125294986 M * Hollow k, just a sec
1125295051 M * Hollow wtf...
1125295058 M * Nicoli ?
1125295065 M * Hollow what is this? *g*
1125295101 M * Hollow there's someone talking with background music
1125295113 M * Nicoli yea hehe
1125295119 M * Nicoli "real men of genious"
1125295132 M * Hollow well, i switch back to deep dish, sorry :P
1125295167 M * Nicoli sok
1125295278 M * Bertl Nicoli: is it a vserver guest?
1125295305 M * Nicoli not yet
1125295311 M * Nicoli i dont ahve a sound card in my vserver
1125295316 M * Nicoli workin on it tho
1125295345 M * Bertl i.c. .. well, I guess I'm off to bed now ...
1125295367 M * Bertl have a good whatevery everyone ... cya later ...
1125295381 M * Bertl mnemoc: (this answers your question for today :)
1125295393 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1125296240 Q * fobi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1125297914 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-182.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1125298033 J * _maharaja maharaja@ip52.ipax.at
1125298089 Q * maharaja Read error: Connection reset by peer
1125298230 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1125298915 J * fobi wht@liiifeeee.com
1125298987 J * litage ~nick@203.201.98.64
1125299443 M * litage in which directory are the vserver directories stored in?
1125299981 M * eyck depends on your setup, look at ls -l /etc/vservers/.defaults 
1125299995 M * eyck vdirbase should be the one to look at
1125300077 Q * lilo_ Remote host closed the connection
1125300178 M * litage eyck: so i can set it to wherever i'd like?
1125300252 M * eyck yes
1125300366 M * litage do vservers automatically have resource limits setup (eg: so that 1 vserver won't hog 100% cpu time)
1125300422 J * lilo U2FsdGVkX1@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1125301889 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1125302309 M * eyck not that I know of, I used to set those up myself, maybe new user tools do that for you 
1125302328 M * eyck (but then again, how would they know what the correct limits are?)
1125303252 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net
1125307222 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection
1125307282 J * lilo debian-tor@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1125308306 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax6-007.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1125309910 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1125312909 J * fobi wht@liiifeeee.com
1125317237 J * lilo U2FsdGVkX1@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1125317979 M * ag- 2.0 doesn't apply cleanly on 2.6.13, it was expected though :)
1125319978 J * spd1snd ~psingh@68-232-133-13.chvlva.adelphia.net
1125320527 M * spd1snd howdy
1125321095 J * Guest60376 ~vip@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com
1125321127 P * Guest60376 
1125321189 J * vip ~vip@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com
1125321239 Q * vip Quit: 
1125321345 J * vip ~vip@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com
1125321365 P * vip 
1125321598 J * vip ~vip@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com
1125321936 Q * albeiro Quit: <EDIT>
1125322092 Q * Aiken__ Quit: Leaving
1125322305 Q * vip Quit: 
1125322593 M * spd1snd has anyone know if you can bind multiple IPs on the same interface to multiple networks? I'd like to run a few vservers on one network and some on another network... I know I could probably do this by binding one network to eth0 and the other to eth1, jsut wanted to know if it is possible to do it all through one NIC port
1125324559 J * vip2005 ~vip@wc-178.r-195-85-188.essentkabel.com
1125325724 Q * vip2005 Quit: 
1125326389 Q * obi jupiter.oftc.net plasma.oftc.net
1125326389 Q * zobel jupiter.oftc.net plasma.oftc.net
1125326467 J * obi ~obi@asus.saftware.de
1125326467 J * zobel zobel@zobel.irc.ftbfs.de
1125327457 N * _maharaja maharaja
1125328174 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1125328207 M * Bertl morning folks!
1125328222 M * mnemoc morning Bertl :)
1125328226 M * Bertl spd1snd: yes, you can do that, but you should probably set up routing for both ...
1125328236 M * Bertl mnemoc: morning :)
1125328315 M * Bertl ag-: you'll have to wait a little or try the devel version ...
1125329998 M * Bertl okay, dinnertime ... back later ...
1125330006 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1125330104 M * ag- Bertl_oO: no problem
1125330566 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1125331777 Q * spd1snd Quit: spd1snd
1125332690 M * micah any debian vserver folks around? I am curious how others keep their vserver packages up to date
1125332718 M * micah cfengine, cron-apt and individually apt-get dist-upgrade in each one?
1125332758 M * micah or something even better?
1125333354 M * stefani cron-apt for me 
1125334531 M * micah yeah
1125334544 M * micah I was hoping that with unification I could manage all package updates via the host somehow
1125334569 M * daniel_hozac does debian not support external package management?
1125334616 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1125334699 M * Bertl micah: there is vrpm and probably vapt-get
1125334714 M * Bertl (which handles the unification)
1125334830 M * micah oh interesting
1125334838 M * micah I didn't know the vapt-get did unification as well
1125334844 M * micah I suppose it requires vhashify
1125334922 M * micah not exactly sure how to use it
1125334930 M * micah vapt-get --all install less
1125334944 M * micah ah, here: vapt-get drupal --all -- install less
1125336000 Q * logger Remote host closed the connection
1125336006 J * logger ~rs@vds.pas-mal.com
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1125336826 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de
1125336826 Q * wibble Read error: Connection reset by peer
1125336826 J * wibble_ ~tim@sophie.wobb1e.co.uk
1125336826 J * _nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1125336918 J * OliverA ~kvirc@ti200710a080-9441.bb.online.no
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1125337094 N * _nokoya nokoya
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1125337261 J * pzYsTorM schak@dsl-213-023-245-184.arcor-ip.net
1125337387 M * pzYsTorM good evening! :) ... got a problem... those vserver-utils doesnt work... i want to install sarge in a vserver, which is a 17GB loop-mount in my 80GB hd
1125337418 M * pzYsTorM # vserver v3 build --force -m debootstrap -- -d sarge
1125337418 M * pzYsTorM mv: Verschieben von ,,/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/v3" nach ,,/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/v3.~1125245941~" nicht möglich: Das Gerät oder die Ressource ist belegt
1125337434 M * pzYsTorM of course, he cannot move... its the mount
1125337487 M * pzYsTorM but how can i tell him, that he has to use the existing dir
1125337770 M * Bertl it's a known bug, build it somewhere else, and copy it over 
1125337796 M * Bertl btw, it's suboptimal to use a loopback file for linux-vserver
1125337817 M * pzYsTorM oh, what is a better solution?
1125337851 M * mnemoc lvs?
1125337863 M * mnemoc err
1125337866 M * Bertl if you want separate partitions, use dm (lvm2, evms, or real)
1125337866 M * mnemoc lvm
1125337879 M * Bertl if you want shared partition, use only one for your guests
1125337921 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: but it is a tool bug, and you will encounter the same issues with lvm2/evms 
1125337989 M * pzYsTorM but u cannot seperate a 80gb partition without losing all data, can you?
1125338155 M * mnemoc backup it, and make it lvm2... it will change your life
1125338171 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: you can
1125338183 M * Bertl I assume it's a partition, no?
1125338196 M * Bertl so the first step is to shrink the filesystem on it
1125338217 M * Bertl after you've done that, reduce the partition size to slightly above the filesystem size (just to make sure)
1125338228 M * Bertl then resize the filesystem to the partition size
1125338302 M * Bertl then create a new partition for lvm
1125338611 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: the reason why loop devices are sub-optimal is that they basically cause duplicate caching/buffering and lookup 
1125338649 M * Bertl request to file A (on the loop) will trigger a block read, which in turn will request a block in file B (the loop file) 
1125338702 M * pzYsTorM *sigh*
1125338726 M * Bertl I know, it's the way UML and friedns do it :)
1125338731 M * pzYsTorM oh jesus... concerning this resize of a filesystem i dont have any idea
1125338740 M * Bertl what filesystem is it?
1125338763 M * pzYsTorM ext3
1125338781 M * Bertl man resize2fs
1125338788 M * Bertl steps are simple:
1125338811 M * Bertl is it a separate partition? or the rootfs?
1125338899 M * pzYsTorM it is hda3 and it is mounted to /
1125338917 M * Bertl well, that is the definitely worst setup you can have anyways ...
1125338928 M * Bertl do you have a swap partition?
1125338932 M * pzYsTorM yes, hda2
1125338943 M * pzYsTorM and hda1 is /boot
1125338953 M * Bertl do you have access to the hardware (physical)?
1125338974 M * pzYsTorM no, but i can boot a rescue system for resize and repartion issues
1125338980 M * pzYsTorM +ti
1125338986 M * Bertl ah, okay, that's good
1125339002 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1125339020 M * Hollow oh what a fun :)
1125339026 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: check tis out http://linux-vserver.org/Remote+Server+Repartitioning
1125339044 M * pzYsTorM ok, thx
1125339045 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: it handles the special case where you can not even boot a rescue system
1125339056 M * Bertl (so your case is probably a lot simpler)
1125339112 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: so you basically can start with 8/9
1125339344 M * pzYsTorM and this resize2fs... i am afraid of losing data... is this resizefs 100% safe?
1125339407 M * SNy nothing is a 100% safe
1125339422 M * SNy make backups if you're worried
1125339426 M * Bertl nothing is 100%, but chances are good that fsck does more harm than resize2fs
1125340011 M * Bertl okay, off now ... back later ...
1125340031 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1125340348 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 !
1125342635 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net
1125345926 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1125345935 M * Bertl back now ...
1125347637 M * pzYsTorM one more question i got %)
1125347657 M * pzYsTorM my vserver wants to reboot, when i stop it
1125347662 M * pzYsTorM vserver bla stop
1125347664 M * pzYsTorM Rebooting... ifdown: shutdown eth0: Permission denied
1125347664 M * pzYsTorM /sbin/vserver: line 85: 19228 Getötet                 "${NICE_CMD[@]}" ${USE_VNAMESPACE:+$_VNAMESPACE --enter "$S_CONTEXT" -- } $_VCONTEXT $SILENT_OPT --migrate --chroot --xid "$S_CONTEXT" -- "${INITCMD_STOP[@]}"
1125347697 M * Bertl yes?
1125347717 M * pzYsTorM yes, indeed
1125347784 M * Bertl yeah, well, that's what your guest's script do ...
1125347806 M * Bertl depending on the initstyle, you can disable that 
1125347819 M * pzYsTorM its the default sarge install
1125347848 M * pzYsTorM oh, that so?... my other vservers doesnt show this behaviour?
1125347852 M * pzYsTorM -?+!
1125347868 M * Bertl probably different init style there (or different distro)
1125348016 M * Bertl or maybe a post install helper?
1125348096 M * pzYsTorM anything with these capabilities cant be?... because i read something concerning capability to stop the vserver
1125348157 M * Bertl capabilities should be fine ..
1125348165 J * dddd44 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1125348171 M * Bertl welcome dddd44!
1125348459 M * mnemoc Bertl: hi, considering 2.6.13 removed devfs support, do you consider to release future vserver patches for 2.6.12? (the last kernel version devfs users will be able to use)
1125348497 M * pzYsTorM i dont know why, but if i execute vserver bla stop on the host system, my vserver goes into level6... and there is the S90reboot script
1125348529 M * Bertl mnemoc: not immediately ... 2.6.13 did not remove it, just disable it
1125348551 M * Bertl mnemoc: and linux-vserver will most likely reenable it :)
1125348559 M * mnemoc Bertl: :D
1125348642 M * Bertl but I'd suggest to stand up on lkml and complain loudly
1125348670 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: sounds 'normal' what if you remove that script (the symlink)
1125348689 M * mnemoc does it make any sense to complain about devfs removal? they decided it years ago
1125348690 M * pzYsTorM everything works
1125348698 M * Bertl perfect! :)
1125348703 M * pzYsTorM ;)
1125348707 M * pzYsTorM but! ;)
1125348724 M * pzYsTorM du u have another hint for me?
1125348725 M * pzYsTorM v3:/# reboot
1125348725 M * pzYsTorM shutdown: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory
1125348725 M * pzYsTorM init: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory
1125348768 M * Bertl yep, your guest uses the sysv init style
1125348783 M * pzYsTorM yes, thats right
1125348785 M * Bertl this is quite okay, but means that your guest will not start any init process
1125348800 M * Bertl (which is not really required and saves resources, btw)
1125348805 M * Bertl but ...
1125348817 M * pzYsTorM if i type "ps ux" i got a "init [2]"
1125348820 M * Bertl reboot and halt and telinit try to contact init
1125348846 M * Bertl but because there is no real init (inside the guest) just the fake blendthrough from the host (to make some apps happy)
1125348861 M * Bertl they can not contact that init via the /dev/initctl pipe
1125348866 M * mnemoc Bertl: there is an easy way to reactivate devfs?
1125348878 M * Bertl mnemoc: yep
1125348915 M * Doener mnemoc: it's just removed from the config part, the actual code is still there AFAIK
1125348920 M * Doener evening btw
1125348942 M * Bertl evening Doener, and right you are!
1125348943 M * mnemoc so i just need to patch Kconfig readding it?
1125349168 M * Doener guess so. didn't follow the whole issue that much... never used devfs
1125349189 M * mnemoc :)
1125349247 J * kas_3 ~dhb55@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1125349268 M * Bertl welcome kas_3!
1125349329 M * Bertl mnemoc: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-devfs.diff reverting this should allow you to configure it again
1125349366 M * mnemoc Bertl: thanks!
1125349380 Q * dddd44 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1125349849 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1125349860 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1125349923 J * Aiken ~james@tooax7-007.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1125350280 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: is there a workaround to make rebooting possible for the guests? ... i cannot explain to me, why in my woody-vserver everything works... and in my sarge-vserver nearly nothing works... (concerning halt/rebooting)
1125350318 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: probably your woody server uses the plain init style?
1125350336 M * Bertl and yes, there is a work around, you can use reboot -f
1125350370 M * pzYsTorM yes, i have read this... and tried it... only the shell dies, the vserver doesnt reboot
1125350404 M * Bertl okay, could you provide a testme.sh output please? (best via pastebin.com)
1125350408 M * Doener pzYsTorM: which tools are you using?
1125350426 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh
1125350430 M * pzYsTorM util-vserver 208
1125350562 M * pzYsTorM 8times "succeeded"
1125350576 M * Bertl we are interested in the first 5 lines :)
1125350590 M * Doener Hollow: around?
1125350613 M * pzYsTorM Linux-VServer Test [V0.13] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 H.Poetzl
1125350613 M * pzYsTorM chcontext is working.
1125350613 M * pzYsTorM chbind is working.
1125350613 M * pzYsTorM Linux 2.6.12.5-vs2.0 i686/0.30.208/0.30.208 [Ea] (16)
1125350613 M * pzYsTorM VCI:  0002:0001 273 03000036
1125350774 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: ah, please check the following
1125350784 M * Bertl I discovered this yesterday by accident
1125350798 M * Bertl when your shell is killed and the guest not restarted
1125350818 M * Bertl use 'vps auxwww' on the host to look for a minilogd inside the guest
1125350834 M * Bertl I assume it is there and still running ...
1125350851 M * Bertl probably the same can be observed when you do a 'vserver <name> stop'
1125350862 M * Bertl (before the 30 second timeout kills it)
1125350963 M * pzYsTorM what is a minilogd?... the only running logd is a syslogd inside the guest
1125351009 M * Bertl hmm, wait, you are using debian, right? 
1125351014 M * pzYsTorM yes
1125351022 M * Bertl okay, then forget that, this was on fc3
1125351029 M * pzYsTorM ok
1125351086 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1125351091 M * Bertl welcome mugwump!
1125351107 M * mugwump hi!
1125351121 M * mugwump just had the mysterious lost IP bug...
1125351168 M * mugwump ie, "ip addr list" no longer shows any addresses on several of my vservers
1125351173 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: so let me repeat your issue ... just for clarification
1125351180 M * mugwump restarting them, of course, fixes it
1125351187 M * mugwump 2.6.11.11-vs2.0-rc4
1125351203 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: you have two guests, one woody, the other sarge, both on the same host?
1125351212 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: yes, right
1125351245 M * Bertl and the woody guest works fine, while the sarge guest 'has issues'
1125351277 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: yes, if you want to say so... the only issue is this reboot/halt stuff
1125351305 M * Bertl and the initstyle is the same for both?
1125351336 M * pzYsTorM yes, the complete /etc/inittab are identical
1125351369 M * Bertl ahem, the initstyle is in /etc/vserver/<name>/initstyle
1125351438 M * Bertl hmm, no, not initstyle
1125351449 M * pzYsTorM ahem, too, those files dont exist, neigher for sarge, not for woody
1125351455 M * pzYsTorM -t+r
1125351458 M * Bertl /etc/vservers/<vserver-name>/apps/init
1125351477 M * pzYsTorM ah ok, those exist, let me check 'em
1125351497 M * Bertl I assume the woody one is 'plain' while the sarge one is 'sysv' or empty
1125351526 M * pzYsTorM this is not a file, its a dir
1125351541 M * Bertl yep, contains a file style
1125351562 M * pzYsTorM it contains a tty file
1125351592 M * pzYsTorM -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1083 2005-01-02 04:48 tty
1125351612 M * Bertl in both cases, taht's all it contains?
1125351626 M * pzYsTorM yes, in my sarge vserver the file is smaller
1125351633 M * pzYsTorM -rw-r--r--  1 root root 315 2005-08-29 23:16 tty
1125351654 M * Bertl okay, forget the tty, no fle called 'style' there?
1125351660 M * pzYsTorM no :(
1125351748 M * pzYsTorM ok, i am at the lovely flower page... but there are no examples, what i should write in this file
1125351749 M * Bertl okay, let's do a 'vserver --debug <name> start' for each of them, and upload that somewhere
1125351839 M * pzYsTorM give me 2 minutes
1125351848 M * Bertl take your time .. np
1125351863 M * Bertl mugwump: and, did you fix it yet? do you have a patch?
1125351880 M * mugwump I don't even know what triggered it yet!  :)
1125351887 M * Bertl mugwump: I suspect you fell for the primary assignment
1125351906 M * Bertl check your 'ip addr ls'
1125351911 M * mugwump however, I was demo'ing a few things on Thursday
1125351990 M * Bertl if you get some addresses which do not have 'secondary' listed there but do belong to a vserver guest, then removing them (the primary one) will remove all your secondaries
1125352044 M * Bertl until recently the network folks denied that this behaviour is at least unexpected, but they added a new flag in 2.6.13++ to allow a different (more expected) behaviour :)
1125352162 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: why does vserver --debug v3 start > /v3.txt not work?... why does piping not work?... how can i get the output into a file?... its so huge, my ssh-client cant display everything
1125352204 M * Bertl bash 101 try: vserver --debug v3 start >v3.txt 2>&1 3>&1 ...
1125352206 M * Doener use 2>v3.txt
1125352229 M * pzYsTorM ok thx
1125352237 M * mugwump http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZzVIzX16.html  # so, if I were to down 192.168.255.254, I'd lose all the others there too?
1125352259 M * Doener exactly
1125352269 M * Bertl mugwump: precisely!
1125352320 Q * mugwump Remote host closed the connection
1125352365 M * Bertl looks like he wanted to know for sure :)
1125352405 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: do you want a diff or two single files?
1125352415 M * Bertl two single files please
1125352501 M * pzYsTorM http://www.pzystorm.de/sarge.txt
1125352504 M * pzYsTorM http://www.pzystorm.de/woody.txt
1125352522 M * Bertl tx
1125352550 M * pzYsTorM i have to say tx :)
1125352923 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1125352972 M * mugwump I concur with your explanation :)
1125353005 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: could you compare the contents of /etc/vservers/v{1,3}/{b,c}capabilities 
1125353092 M * mugwump my "skeleton" vserver was using that 192.168.255.254 address; when I started and stopped the skeleton vserver during the demonstration, the bug was triggered
1125353102 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: v1/bcapabilties is empty... all other dont exist
1125353134 M * Bertl mugwump: yep, in the future there will be a flag/setup you can do to avoid that
1125353190 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: sorry, v3/bcapabilties is empty ... the other dont exist
1125353205 M * Bertl hmm ... k
1125353356 Q * renihs Remote host closed the connection
1125353359 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: well,  see no relevant difference from the linux-vserver POV, the only difference seems to be the guest distro
1125353361 M * mugwump dear Enrico, please update the flower page, or allow other people to help you.  Love, mugwump.
1125353392 M * Bertl mugwump: sounds like the perfect topic for a bugreport on savannah?
1125353935 M * mugwump mmm.  looks like I have to create an account, goody.
1125354148 M * mugwump what's the sched flag called?  sched_prio or just sched?
1125354168 M * Bertl there are two of them, sched_prio and sched_hard
1125354189 M * Bertl the prio does your vavavoom :)
1125354227 M * pzYsTorM Bertl: ok thx anyway... the last idea i have is follwing: the woody guest was installed using debian-newvserver.sh ... the sarge guest using "vserver .. build .. " ... tomorrow i will try this
1125354273 M * mugwump oh, it is working ... looked like the tokens weren't being removed
1125354284 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: if the newvserver patched the guest after the debootstrap, then this should probably be fed back to mainline
1125354424 M * Bertl pzYsTorM: but maybe it's just a difference between woody and sarge ... in any case, please keep us informed
1125354543 J * gulinma ~zeus@200.115.241.58
1125354579 M * pzYsTorM in 20 hours i know more... but now its time to sleep
1125354581 M * pzYsTorM n8
1125354817 M * Bertl night pzYsTorM!
1125355123 M * Bertl is anybody using the var_hz feature on x86?
1125355156 M * Bertl I'm playing with the thought to remove it as the latest kernels provide at least a selection of 100,250 and 1000 Hz
1125355349 M * Aiken I only change HZ when using a kernel under qemu and then I change it to 100
1125355373 M * Aiken seems to help a bit with time keeping in the emulator
1125355395 M * Bertl yep, it also helps to adjust it on heavy loaded hosts
1125355824 M * mugwump heck, I've a vserver with sched_prio set, and it's tokens just aren't being deducted ... investigating
1125355882 M * mugwump and vsched is segfaulting.  great.
1125356008 M * Bertl mugwump: it's a bug we had at some point ...
1125356020 M * Bertl welcome gulinma!
1125356039 M * Bertl mugwump: you might consider updating
1125356041 M * mugwump ok, I'll upgrade the utils
1125356134 M * Bertl mugwump: your kernel is vs1.9.4++, right?
1125356147 M * mugwump 2.0-rc4
1125356156 M * Bertl okay
1125356167 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog26
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1125356388 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70
1125356788 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1125357187 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
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