1123805820 Q * nox Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123807067 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1123807074 M * Bertl wb nox! 1123807165 M * nox thx Bertl. forgot the killscript (: 1123807480 M * Bertl nox: how are you? everything fine? 1123807498 N * lilo_ lilo 1123807529 M * nox jeah thx had probs with the server 1123807549 M * Bertl hardware issues? 1123807580 M * nox should have used the reboot for new kernel , but wasn't preperated 1123807660 M * nox it crashed while rsyncing , i think the ext3 was pretty messed up after 150 days up 1123807684 M * Bertl hmm, yeah, the benefit of journaling filesystems :) 1123807739 M * nox (: and softwareraid 1123807761 M * nox will dig tomorrow aehm later 1123808882 Q * logger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123808889 J * logger ~rs@vds.pas-mal.com 1123810737 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123812256 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1123818655 M * Bertl I'm off to bed now .. have a nice whatever everyone .. cya later ... 1123818662 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1123819063 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-200.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123819390 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123819883 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host111.201-252-6.telecom.net.ar 1123827466 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123827687 Q * revenger_ Read error: Operation timed out 1123832261 M * Hollow morning 1123833887 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving 1123834428 J * Neubix ~brian@p54B06D46.dip.t-dialin.net 1123834443 M * Neubix Morning 1123834877 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1123834890 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@85.10.237.60 1123835406 Q * BWare Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123835848 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@80.10.158.10 1123836737 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1123837307 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1123837987 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1123838902 J * war- war@lucidpixels.com 1123839221 J * phreak ~phreak@85.10.237.60 1123839240 Q * phreak Quit: 1123839276 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@85.10.237.60 1123840556 J * Doener_ ~doener@p54877715.dip.t-dialin.net 1123840983 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1123840987 Q * Doener` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123841001 M * Bertl morning folks! 1123841116 M * Bertl Neubix: hope you've already found the answer to your question (from yesterday) if not, search for 'matb' on the following page: http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1123841196 M * lonewolff morning all 1123841551 M * DaPhreak Bertl: you're meaning mtab, no ?! :P 1123841580 M * Bertl yeah, but folks should know that by now, no? :) 1123841602 M * Bertl (if not, see it as intelectual challenge :) 1123841641 M * Neubix nice page ... green green grass 1123841642 M * Bertl *intellectual (it's morning :) 1123841645 M * Neubix Hi Bertl 1123841749 M * Neubix /etc/vservers/.defaults/init 1123841749 M * Neubix 1123841749 M * Neubix mtab 1123841749 M * Neubix 1123841749 M * Neubix Default mtab file this one ? 1123841754 M * DaPhreak Bertl: sure they should know :) 1123841809 M * Bertl Neubix: yeah, except for the empty lines, I guess that's the only one, no? 1123841822 M * Neubix I have no directory "init" 1123841883 M * Bertl not yet ... 1123841891 M * Neubix I create one and a default mtab file .. is this ok ? 1123841906 M * Bertl yup, just check the 'defaults' ... 1123841962 M * Bertl (hmm, guess there are none for that file, well, try it out then :) 1123842014 M * Neubix an inside in the mtab 1123842016 M * Neubix /dev/hdv1 / ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0 1123842016 M * Neubix none /proc proc defaults 0 0 1123842016 M * Neubix none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1123842016 M * Neubix none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 1123842102 M * Bertl is probably overkill, i'd start with the '/' line first 1123842109 M * Neubix ?? 1123842113 M * Bertl the other stuff is 'mounted' so it will be automatically added to the mtab 1123842178 M * Neubix only /dev/hdv1 / ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0 in the //etc/vservers/.defaults/init/mtab ? 1123842222 M * Bertl try it out, write something there, start the guest, look what you get ... 1123842246 M * Bertl it's not that much work (and not dangerous even) so just give it a try ... 1123842286 M * Neubix cannot start the vserver :( 1123842308 M * Neubix vserver vhost01 start 1123842308 M * Neubix ............ 3years later 1123842339 M * Neubix ctrl-c = Failed to start vserver 'vhost01' 1123842389 M * Bertl there is a --debug option ... 1123842422 M * Neubix ah .. the mtab file in guest are oben by vi .. now i can start .. 1123842623 M * Neubix I think quota is running !!!!!!! :-) .. but FYI .. ext3 only, is the LVM mount without quota support 1123842630 J * ruuth ~ruuth@p549CA8F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123842681 Q * ruuth Quit: 1123842907 J * VooDooMaster ~voodoomas@p549CA8F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123843036 M * Neubix looks good :-) 1123843113 M * VooDooMaster hi! 1123843171 M * VooDooMaster does anybody know when the vserver2 will be available in the gentoo portage-tree? 1123843185 Q * hetche Quit: 1123843225 M * Bertl Neubix: check that it is really working as expected ... quota can be tricky sometimes ... 1123843244 M * Bertl VooDooMaster: hmm, shouldn't it be already? 1123843273 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: I thought so - but I synced and searched and found 1.9.5 1123843283 M * Neubix yes I do !! 1123843322 M * Bertl Hollow: see Q from VooDooMaster ^^ 1123843330 Q * VooDooMaster Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123843352 J * ruuth ~ruuth@p549CA8F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123843363 M * Bertl welcome ruuth? 1123843373 M * ruuth Bertl: Again please - by client crashed :( 1123843384 N * ruuth VooDooMaster 1123843449 M * VooDooMaster Bertl: Again please - by client crashed :( 1123843521 M * Bertl VooDooMaster: nothing yet, but you can check the real-time logs :) 1123843531 Q * VooDooMaster Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123843692 J * ruuth ~ruuth@p549CA8F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123843735 M * ruuth Bertl: Sorry - my client get's a floating point exception when I receive "private" messages 1123843739 N * ruuth VooDooMaster 1123844062 Q * VooDooMaster Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123844381 J * VooDooMaster ~voodoomas@p549CA8F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123844506 M * Neubix no not good ... 1123844533 M * Neubix /dev/hdv1 on / type ufs (rw,usrquota,grpquota) 1123844533 M * Neubix none on /proc type proc (defaults) 1123844533 M * Neubix none on /tmp type tmpfs (size=16m,mode=1777) 1123844533 M * Neubix none on /dev/pts type devpts (gid=5,mode=620) 1123844542 M * Neubix /etc/init.d/quota restart 1123844542 M * Neubix Turning off quotasquotaoff: quotactl on /dev/hdv1 [/]: Kein passendes Gerät bzw. keine passende Adresse gefunden 1123844542 M * Neubix quotaoff: quotactl on /dev/hdv1 [/]: Kein passendes Gerät bzw. keine passende Adresse gefunden 1123844542 M * Neubix . 1123844544 M * Neubix Checking quotas... 1123844546 M * Neubix done. 1123844548 M * Neubix Turning on quotas. 1123844550 M * Neubix quotaon: using //aquota.group on /dev/hdv1 [/]: Kein passendes Gerät bzw. keine passende Adresse gefunden 1123844552 M * Neubix quotaon: using //aquota.user on /dev/hdv1 [/]: Kein passendes Gerät bzw. keine passende Adresse gefunden 1123844580 M * Bertl two things to check, and one hint: 1123844602 M * Bertl a) make sure that the vroot is configured and copied to the /dev/hdv1 inside the guest 1123844617 M * Bertl b) make sure that your guest has the quota capability (ccap) 1123844648 M * Bertl hint) use LC_ALL=C, LANG=C when creating error messages for the channel 1123844694 M * Neubix ok, I check 1123844804 Q * VooDooMaster Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123845444 J * ruuth ~ruuth@p549CA8F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123845458 N * ruuth VooDooMaster 1123845857 M * Neubix how to check quota capability (ccap) 1123845932 M * Bertl cat /proc/virtual//status 1123845989 M * Bertl DECL("quota_ctl", VC_VXC_QUOTA_CTL), 1123846043 M * Neubix UseCnt: 16 1123846043 M * Neubix Tasks: 6 1123846043 M * Neubix Flags: 0000000202000010 1123846043 M * Neubix BCaps: 00000000344c04ff 1123846043 M * Neubix CCaps: 0000000000000101 1123846044 M * Neubix Ticks: 0 1123846133 M * Bertl #define VXC_QUOTA_CTL0x00100000 1123846144 M * Bertl #define VXC_QUOTA_CTL 0x00100000 1123846153 M * Bertl also nicht gesetzt ... 1123846171 M * Bertl (so the flag is not set ..) 1123846211 M * Neubix define VXC_QUOTA_CTL 0x00100000 ?? config file ?? host or guest ?? 1123846236 M * Bertl no, you just use the 'quota_ctl' and put it into your ccaps config 1123846262 M * Bertl # /etc/vservers//ccapabilities 1123846336 N * pg|cereal pg`aw|cereal 1123846364 M * Neubix ok, create file ccapabilities in inside quota_ctl 1123846569 M * Bertl eyck: you around? 1123846790 M * Neubix UseCnt: 16 1123846791 M * Neubix Tasks: 6 1123846791 M * Neubix Flags: 0000000202000010 1123846791 M * Neubix BCaps: 00000000344c04ff 1123846791 M * Neubix CCaps: 0000000000100101 1123846791 M * Neubix Ticks: 0 1123846793 M * Neubix better ? 1123846797 M * Bertl yep 1123846800 M * Neubix :-) 1123846844 M * Neubix /etc/init.d/quota restart 1123846844 M * Neubix Turning off quotas. 1123846844 M * Neubix Checking quotas... 1123846844 M * Neubix done. 1123846844 M * Neubix Turning on quotas. 1123846845 M * Neubix YIPPIE !! 1123846861 M * Bertl congrats! 1123847007 M * Bertl Neubix: if you get around, and update to the documentation would be appreciated ... (regarding quota) 1123847144 M * Neubix yes ! ;-) 1123847210 M * Neubix everything look's good but I install for some people the "Webmin" in a vserver .. and there I get "No local filesystems can support quotas." 1123847229 M * Bertl sounds like a webmin issue to me ... 1123847239 M * Neubix I think so .. 1123847671 Q * renihs Quit: Leaving 1123847922 M * eyck Bertl: yupp, what's up? 1123847952 M * Bertl I did have a deeper look at 1.2.10 ... and it's unfixable ... 1123847972 M * Bertl naah, just kidding, I have a release candidate for 1.2.11 in a few minutes ... 1123847975 M * eyck :) 1123847988 M * eyck great, thanks, 1123847994 M * Bertl but it needs some testing ... especially as I did not only fix xfs, but also reiser 1123847999 M * eyck I'll test it through the weekend then 1123848011 M * Bertl that's what I wanted to hear ... excellent! 1123848242 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1123848483 M * DaCa Bertl: fix on reiser? can you elaborate on this? 1123848532 M * Bertl sure, now that we have a filesystem test script, which does test xid tagging and xattr behaviour ... 1123848551 M * Bertl I used it on the 1.2.10, and discovered some anomalies ... 1123848700 M * DaCa oh, I'm not using tagging, I use lvm lv's to seperate diskspace 1123848732 M * Bertl did I say I found them in the tagging code? :) 1123848855 M * Bertl Doener_: when you get around, please have a look at http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-1.2.11/ and let me know what you think ... 1123851260 M * Doener_ looks good... it's more like the 2.0 code now, right? (testing my memories ;) 1123851438 Q * case Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123851454 M * Bertl yep, I had to cleanup the naming .. because I wasn't able to check it :) 1123851783 M * Bertl hey folks! I'm digging through the 26 wiki @ http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Linux2.6/ ... and it seems that this might contain some valuable information ... is anybody interested in re-integrating this into the linux-vserver.org wiki? 1123851848 M * DaPhreak Bertl: same as on the udev-qemu-image :P on the weekend ;) 1123851882 M * Bertl well, excellent .. thanks to all ... 1123851891 Q * VooDooMaster Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123852009 M * Bertl btw, it's interesting that we have fulfilled/matched almost all ideas there (with vs2.0) 1123852019 M * DaPhreak heh :) 1123852049 M * DaPhreak *grml* people must be nuts ... bidding >60 Eur for a more than 10 years old hardware 1123852098 M * Bertl hum, a friend of mine is selling a pocket calculator for ~100 EUR 1123852120 M * Bertl (not as powerful as bc :) 1123852125 M * DaPhreak nah, this is "only" a Mips 64bit :) 1123852151 M * Bertl hmm, mips ... nice :) 1123852173 M * DaPhreak cute little toy :) 1123852213 J * hetche ~hetche@dsl-58-6-34-71.nsw.westnet.com.au 1123852755 M * Bertl wb hetche! 1123852779 M * hetche hi bertl 1123852784 M * hetche you are here alot they should pay you ;) 1123852794 M * Bertl feel free to do so :) 1123852821 M * hetche heeh 1123854266 M * Bertl eyck: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.4.31-vs1.2.11-rc1.diff 1123854754 Q * mountie Remote host closed the connection 1123854853 M * eyck got it. 1123854933 M * Neubix hmm .. something is wrong .. setquota -u brian 10000 10000 10000 10000 / 1123854934 M * Neubix setquota: Mountpoint (or device) / not found. 1123854934 M * Neubix setquota: Not all specified mountpoints are using quota. 1123855030 M * Bertl strace? 1123855043 M * Neubix ahhh !!! setquota -u brian 10000 10000 10000 10000 /dev/hdv1 is running 1123855772 M * Neubix I don't understand why webmin do not see the quota supported partition .. I have try it with the newest webmin and with the debian sarge webmin ... 1123855943 M * Bertl use the source, luke ... eh, Neubix! 1123855955 M * Neubix ?? 1123855969 M * Neubix new compile ? 1123855974 M * Bertl webmin source will know what fails, no? 1123855975 M * Neubix and it's running ? 1123856055 M * Bertl check what webmin does/tries to do .. either by reading the source, or by using strace for example ... 1123856069 M * Bertl and if you found out what fails, fix it ... 1123856129 M * Neubix :-) .. " by reading the source" .. nice ... *smile* you know, I'm not a developer 1123856153 M * Bertl hmm, maybe there is a webmin channel out there? 1123856168 M * Neubix I ask google :-) 1123856173 M * Bertl maybe strace -fF already provides some clues 1123856194 M * Neubix but the quotasupport is running .. tests are success 1123856214 M * Bertl so what fails? 1123856222 M * Neubix sorry?? 1123856255 M * Neubix quota can be set by using a shell .. not Webmin .. 1123856264 M * Bertl webmin doesn't recognize the partition as quota enabled or what? 1123856311 M * Neubix webmin cannot used to set quotas .. but the shell commands are success .. 1123856345 M * Bertl yeah, I got that, but what does webmin report (regarding quota) 1123856363 M * Bertl does it throw an error? or does it just ignore the partition? 1123856405 M * Neubix only ignore the partition 1123856413 M * Neubix no error 1123856424 M * Bertl well, maybe it is looking into /etc/fstab not /etc/mtab? 1123856442 M * Neubix yes... maybe ,,, 1123856455 M * Bertl mayb it's checking the /proc/mounts ... which will reflect the host options 1123856851 M * Neubix ok, Now I must do something for my business .. Thanx for help. CU next week ;-) 1123856860 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1123856866 M * Neubix habe a nice weekend !! 1123856876 M * Bertl I will .. 1123856887 Q * Neubix Quit: Verlassend 1123858164 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de 1123859090 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1123859399 J * CosmicRay ~jgoerzen@2002:4463:7269:1:20e:a6ff:fe66:c5a3 1123859417 M * CosmicRay so I'm curious about the difference between vserver and freevps 1123859429 M * CosmicRay I had never heard of freevps before, but it looks like it shares a lot of common code with vserver? 1123859498 M * Bertl not anymore I guess 1123859525 M * Bertl freevps branched around 1.2/1.3 developemnt 1123859529 M * CosmicRay ah, hm. 1123859547 M * Bertl maybe a little earlier ... when alexey decided to go 'commercial' 1123859560 M * CosmicRay has vserver integrated the freevps features? or is there a reason that it hasn't? 1123859561 M * CosmicRay ah 1123859580 M * CosmicRay really, I'm happy with vserver and don't ponder switching, I'm just curious 1123859611 M * CosmicRay <-- planning to upgrade our systems from 2.4.26-vs1.27 to 2.6.12.4-vs2.0 this weekend 1123859622 M * CosmicRay speaking of which, is there an upgrade guide anywhere? 1123859932 Q * erwan_taf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123859995 M * Bertl ad features: well, except for the virtualized network stack (which I do not see as such a feature) we haven't figured that many features (of freevps) yet ... 1123860012 M * TheSeer CosmicRay: short way: get new kernel, get 2.0-patch, enable legacy, make, reboot, be happy ;> 1123860025 M * Bertl ad upgrade: it should be pretty painless, just make sure that your system works with a 2.6 kernel 1123860026 M * CosmicRay really? the old util-vserver will even work? 1123860041 M * CosmicRay TheSeer: I have to disable /proc security tho, right? 1123860043 M * Bertl yes, as long as you don't disable legacy support, they will 1123860054 Q * renihs Read error: No route to host 1123860077 M * CosmicRay I enabled CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY but not CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY_VERSION 1123860080 M * TheSeer CosmicRay: you won't gain any of the new features though 1123860087 M * CosmicRay I also made sure to disable CONFIG_VSERVER_PROC_SECURE 1123860093 M * CosmicRay is there a summary of new features anywhere? 1123860118 M * CosmicRay I figure that I want to jump to 2.6 first, and then once I know that is working, then start adding new features. slowly. 1123860149 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Release+FAQ see feature matrix 1123860186 M * CosmicRay buce 1123860189 M * CosmicRay err 1123860190 M * CosmicRay nice 1123860196 M * CosmicRay keyboard offset disorder ;-) 1123860263 M * CosmicRay if I upgrade my util-vserver, will it work with existing config files? 1123860269 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1123860389 M * Bertl yes, it is supposed to support the legacy config ... 1123860409 M * Bertl again, you have to have legacy support enabled ... 1123860747 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123860825 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1123861068 M * Bertl CosmicRay: without the CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY_VERSION, older tools will fail ... 1123861080 M * Bertl (they can not handle the 2.0 version) 1123861163 M * CosmicRay so I should upgrade to the latest util-vserver... 1123861173 M * CosmicRay and it should grok my existing configs just fine, so all should be well anyway, yes? 1123861205 M * Bertl yes, thats how it's supposed to be ... :) 1123861219 M * CosmicRay is 0.30.207 new enough or do I need 0.30.208? 1123861226 M * CosmicRay (207 is the latest in debian) 1123861341 M * Bertl get the mainline version, avoid debian for now ... 1123861352 M * Bertl (btw, I guess there is some 0.30.208 in unstable) 1123861378 M * CosmicRay eh? but I am running debian here... why should I not use the util-vserver that is already conveniently packaged for it? 1123861383 M * CosmicRay it's 0.30.207 that's in unstable 1123861388 M * Bertl because it's broken ... 1123861392 M * CosmicRay debian stable has 0.30.204 1123861401 M * Bertl which is even more broken :) 1123861411 M * CosmicRay 207 is broken, or the debian maintainer did something to break it 207? 1123861421 M * Bertl both ... 1123861428 M * CosmicRay what, again!!? :-) 1123861435 M * CosmicRay that did ola do to the debian packages? 1123861474 M * Bertl you have to ask him ... I'm just collecting the debian feedback ... 1123861491 M * Bertl and a lot of 'issues' went away after moving to mainline ... 1123861502 M * CosmicRay by mainline, you mean util-vserver.tar.gz from your ste? 1123861507 M * Bertl yep 1123861580 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1123861592 M * CosmicRay hm. 1123861631 M * CosmicRay perhaps I could roll my own 208 debs. 1123861632 M * CosmicRay I dislike integrating third party stuff into system startup/shutdown scripts 1123861697 M * Bertl as I said, I'd check first, micah and other debian folks usually provide up-to-date packages (somewhere) 1123861712 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123861850 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1123861906 M * Duckx Bertl: cheers from France :) 1123861917 M * CosmicRay google knows nothing of it so far 1123861918 M * Duckx Or vservers are still working fine by the way ;) 1123862018 M * Bertl Duckx: thanks! 1123862043 M * Duckx It's time for to go direct in the week end :) 1123862055 M * Duckx Enjoy the sun wherever you are :) 1123862095 M * Duckx @+ 1123862104 Q * Duckx Quit: Leaving 1123862125 M * stefani Bertl: i believe one can get some packages from 1123862139 M * stefani deb http://deb.riseup.net/debian unstable main 1123862202 M * stefani but not vserver utils i believe. so far the verserver patches and utils are uploaded to a debian unstable reposiroty 1123862252 M * CosmicRay I don't see any vserver stuff in there. 1123862255 M * CosmicRay mostly postfix stuff 1123862290 M * Bertl just ask on the ML, I guess some debian folks will answer ... 1123862482 A * CosmicRay does so 1123863186 M * nox Bertl: is there also a 1.2.10 patch for 2.4.31 ? 1123863205 M * Bertl there is even a 1.2.11-pre1 for 2.4.31 :) 1123863240 M * nox lemme try (: 1123863268 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.4.31-vs1.2.11-rc1.diff 1123863318 M * nox thx !you could maybe add a link to this folder i forget it allways (: 1123863567 M * Bertl would not help ... 1123863607 M * Bertl (it's the first one in the section Important Links :) 1123863640 M * nox oops (: 1123863848 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later this evening ... 1123863854 M * hetche gnight bert :p 1123863854 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1123863863 M * nox cu 1123866539 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-050.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123868266 J * [ScW]Copxer EatMyShort@ems01.your-freedom.de 1123868278 M * [ScW]Copxer hola 1123868540 Q * [ScW]Copxer Quit: • IRcap [8.0b2] • www.ircap.net • 1123868955 M * CosmicRay if I use util-vserver 208, should I be using this fix01 patch? 1123868960 M * CosmicRay it looks like much more than a simple brief fix 1123868976 M * CosmicRay and has some weird lines, such as: 1123868978 M * CosmicRay -static inline \ 1123868979 M * CosmicRay +static inline \ 1123869582 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123870128 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123870227 M * CosmicRay I have 208 packages built at http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/vs/ -- includes fix1 1123870252 M * Hollow CosmicRay: which fix1 are you refering to? 1123870281 M * CosmicRay the one under tools at http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/ 1123870366 M * Hollow CosmicRay: ah, ok... seems to be a combined patch of some other patches, just wanted to know because for util-vserver ebuilds on gentoo, but they include the fixes.. 1123870601 M * CosmicRay I dunno, half of the changes in that diff seem to do nothing whatsoever 1123870602 M * CosmicRay like those lovely static inline ones above ;-) 1123870679 J * _nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123870730 J * fosco fosco@hellfire.frontier.fr 1123870732 M * fosco hi 1123870768 M * fosco I have some problems creating non legacy vservers 1123870780 M * fosco is there any how-to related ? 1123870805 M * fosco I found a lot of doc, but only for legacy ones 1123870817 M * fosco (no /etc/vservers//*) 1123870852 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123870854 N * _nokoya nokoya 1123871972 M * CosmicRay http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html is one of the ugliest pages I've ever seen 1123872263 M * fosco wow 1123872267 A * fosco agrees 1123872282 M * fosco CosmicRay: do you have problems running openssh under a vserver? 1123872478 M * CosmicRay fosco: no, are you getting a port already in use error? 1123872533 M * fosco "stdin: is not a tty" 1123872539 M * fosco when I try to log in 1123872545 M * CosmicRay oh. haven't seen that one. 1123872563 M * fosco only works with "sh -i" 1123872583 M * CosmicRay screwed up ptys in /dev perhaps? just a gues 1123872903 M * fosco maybe, but I have no idea hoz-to know that 1123872922 M * fosco I have put a full copy of the main /dev in the vserver's /dev 1123873033 M * fosco ok 1123873043 M * fosco added a devpts entry in mtab 1123873127 M * CosmicRay I've never had an issue with these in /dev, but someone else more familiar with things will have to help you I'm afraid 1123873136 M * CosmicRay I don't think that just adding something to mtab will make any difference though 1123873138 M * fosco I found the sollution 1123873166 M * fosco It was just the devpts fs that was not mounted on /dev/pts 1123873177 M * fosco on legacy vservers, this is automatic 1123873214 M * CosmicRay huh, with current ones, it's not? 1123873216 M * CosmicRay that's weird 1123873222 M * fosco yes 1123873234 M * CosmicRay so did you add an init.d script to do that or something? 1123873273 M * CosmicRay it looks like debian has a script that will do just that 1123873485 M * Hollow CosmicRay: the fixes are mainly for ANSI C and gcc4 compatibility iirc 1123873507 M * CosmicRay ah, thanks 1123873664 M * fosco I just modified /etc/vserver//fstab 1123873866 Q * CosmicRay Quit: Client exiting 1123875125 Q * nokoya Quit: changing servers 1123875139 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123875990 J * _nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123876102 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123876111 N * _nokoya nokoya 1123877863 Q * nokoya Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123878292 J * nokoya ~young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123878466 J * newz2000 ~newz2000@12-226-91-204.client.mchsi.com 1123878556 Q * newz2000 Quit: 1123878625 J * Dan99991 ~chatzilla@c-4883e055.124-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1123878659 M * Dan99991 hello all 1123878664 M * Dan99991 anyone awake? 1123878741 M * Dan99991 I'm a total vserver newbie and would like some pointers. have been looking around the wiki, but I'm still lost 1123879268 M * FaUl Dan99991: whats your problem? what would you like to know? 1123879282 M * Dan99991 alot actually :) 1123879299 M * Dan99991 right now I'm doing a build -m legacy ... takes a few moments 1123879325 M * FaUl why would you like to use legacy? :-) 1123879351 M * fosco (anoyone knows how to build a rpm based bootstrap under a non-rpm system?) 1123879355 M * Dan99991 but the main question is this: I was planning on having a host, which is running a vserver firewall with its own hw nic... is this even possible? 1123879463 M * FaUl uhm, i'm not quite sure if i understand you right 1123879478 M * FaUl you want the host firewall for the vserver or a vserver as firewall 1123879512 M * Dan99991 the server (host) running a vserver firewall 1123879605 M * FaUl the firewall as a guest? 1123879616 M * FaUl for the host? 1123879629 M * Dan99991 fosco: what is the smartest way to set up a new (for testing purposes, for now) vserver, then, if the legacy method aint that pretty... 1123879705 M * FaUl depends, if you like debian-vserver its vserver build -m debootstrap <+ interface-config> --context --hostname -- -d sarge 1123879708 M * Dan99991 the host has two nics, one for the host itself, and one I planned to use for a firewall vserver 1123879715 M * FaUl ah 1123879717 M * fosco I used debootstrap 1123879727 M * fosco for the firt vserver 1123879727 M * Dan99991 i run slackware 1123879731 M * fosco now I will use tar ;) 1123879783 M * fosco for the config, I will use templates based on the first vservers configuration directory 1123879794 M * FaUl Dan99991: i'm not so familar with slackware but it should be possible to mkdir a new dir, extract the base distro and copy the config :-) 1123879802 M * Dan99991 well the legacy vserver, one done copying, failed to startup 1123879820 M * fosco FaUl: wants my tarball ? 1123879845 M * Dan99991 "copy the config" ? 1123879854 M * Dan99991 which? from where? to where? :) 1123879866 M * FaUl Dan99991: in /etc/vservers/ are directorys with the basic config 1123879909 M * FaUl Dan99991: i'm not quite sure if you got the right with a firewall-vserevr, should be better to use usermodelinux for that purpose 1123879928 M * Dan99991 ah... in 2.0 it seems all shows up under /usr/local/etc/vserver 1123879979 M * fosco it mainly seems that you don't set the --prefix when configuring :) 1123879981 M * Dan99991 faui: but vserver makes it so sweet with quick upgrades, quick "reboots" and so on... 1123880047 M * FaUl Dan99991: but vserver is only one kernel, so your iptables-rules would basically run on the host-kernel 1123880062 M * Dan99991 it would? gaah... 1123880067 M * fosco yes :) 1123880094 M * Dan99991 darn.. and I thought I had a good plan to get rid of alot of hardware around this place ... :( 1123880151 M * FaUl Dan99991: i personally use vserver as dmz which works well 1123880163 M * Dan99991 faui: tell me more! 1123880166 M * FaUl Dan99991: just routing d oes an extra mashine, 1123880177 M * Dan99991 (looking up usermodelinux) 1123880299 M * FaUl you also may give xen a try 1123880453 M * Dan99991 performance is what got me looking into vserver... how does uml and xen match up to that? 1123880526 M * FaUl Dan99991: uml uses a little more resources and it's not so fast to map syscalls, but should be enough for home and small-office-use 1123880597 M * fosco if you just want a firewall, why not simply use a small box as bridge ? 1123880827 M * Dan99991 yeah... some of my friends installed linux on their linksys fw/router 1123880895 M * Dan99991 but as someone said, why make it easy? :) 1123880915 M * lonewolff Dan99991: why not just use an old box with 2 (or more) nics 1123880917 M * Dan99991 easy way = you won't learn anything :) 1123880957 M * Dan99991 that's what I'm doing right now. an old box with two stone-age nics (it doesn't even have pci) 1123880993 M * lonewolff I wish i had kept doing that instead of shelling out $400 for a miniitx firewall :S 1123881055 M * lonewolff grr i mean GBP not $ ( i just dont have a GBP symbol key on here) 1123881109 M * Dan99991 now I got a "new" and "fast" machine with a bunch of memory, which I was hoping would do the work of my three machines (mail client/im/scanner/pda, mail-/file-/database-server, firewall)... 1123881175 M * fosco Y ou can learn something 1123881202 M * fosco some of my firewalls/routeurs runs on old hardware using a single floppy :) 1123881260 M * Dan99991 i spent €1400 on a game, that's what I call a waste... 1123881614 M * FaUl fosco: mine all run on cfdisk 1123881708 M * fosco cool :) 1123881717 M * Dan99991 old hardware is a charm, but not when it comes to fast ethernet.. ISA != fast 1123881856 M * fosco some old pentiums can now be considered as "old" 1123881874 M * fosco while beeing pci based systems 1123881905 M * Dan99991 amen! 1123881932 M * Dan99991 seems uml doesn't have any patches for >2.6.0 1123881967 M * Dan99991 edit: seems uml doesn't have any patches for >2.6.3 1123882283 M * Dan99991 thanks for your help and hints, fosco / faui 1123882283 M * daniel_hozac UML is included in 2.6 kernels. 1123882290 M * Dan99991 included? 1123882299 M * Dan99991 *lost* 1123882314 M * daniel_hozac just make ARCH=um menuconfig in a vanilla 2.6 tree and configure your UML kernel. 1123882361 M * Dan99991 wow! *drool* ... checking it out... 1123882675 M * Dan99991 ..and now to some debugging. thanks, hozac 1123883050 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123883317 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1123884036 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1123884050 Q * renihs Remote host closed the connection 1123884630 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1123886268 Q * Waktugal Remote host closed the connection 1123889913 Q * Pazzo Quit: bye 1123890341 J * electrolinux ~dib@ADijon-153-1-7-238.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1123890441 M * electrolinux hi! 1123890583 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-050.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123890587 M * electrolinux hello, virtualized people ;-) 1123890614 Q * war- Remote host closed the connection 1123890626 M * electrolinux how are your virtual realities ? 1123890777 P * electrolinux too much something ... 1123890939 M * sid3windr indeed.