1123718426 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1123719996 J * jpacheco ~justin@CPE0050180cd14b-CM0f0099806976.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1123720003 M * jpacheco hey guys 1123720071 M * jpacheco does anyone know if its possible to mount a directory from one vserver to another using the --bind option? 1123720428 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1123720450 M * jpacheco yeah? do you know how it might be done? 1123720541 M * daniel_hozac mount --bind /vservers/.../source /vservers/.../destination 1123720549 M * jpacheco i tried that 1123720563 M * jpacheco the dest vserver doesn't see the mounted dir 1123720569 M * daniel_hozac you need to do it in the destination server's namespace if it's running. 1123720578 M * daniel_hozac it'd be best to put it in the destination server's fstab. 1123720588 M * daniel_hozac (/etc/vservers/.../fstab) 1123720589 M * jpacheco im trying that right now 1123720598 M * jpacheco do you know the proper format? 1123720612 M * jpacheco for such a fstab line? 1123720640 M * daniel_hozac /pub /pub bind bind 0 0 1123720642 M * daniel_hozac is what i use. 1123720659 M * jpacheco ahh bind bind 1123720706 M * jpacheco can you do bind,ro ? 1123720745 M * daniel_hozac if you have BME, yes. 1123720760 M * jpacheco BME? 1123720764 M * daniel_hozac it's sufficient to have just one bind, i just can't remember which one when i put that in ;) 1123720772 M * daniel_hozac Bind Mount Extensions. 1123720784 M * daniel_hozac http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/BME/ 1123720853 M * jpacheco ahhhhh 1123720855 M * jpacheco it works! 1123720865 M * jpacheco thx alot for the help daniel_hozac 1123720917 M * daniel_hozac np. 1123720976 M * jpacheco so how are you able to mount --bind in a running vserver? 1123720984 M * jpacheco you said something about its namespace? 1123721048 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace -e mount --bind ... 1123721087 M * jpacheco oh nice 1123722977 M * brc Vserver '/etc/vservers/9hoston' still running unexpectedly; please investigate it manually... 1123723149 M * jpacheco exit 1123723153 Q * jpacheco Quit: [BX] You can /quit any time you like, but you can never leave 1123725190 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123725262 Q * lilo_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123727999 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1123728515 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-191.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123728842 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123729327 J * goku ~beefjunk@71-36-68-111.slkc.qwest.net 1123729340 Q * goku Quit: 1123738045 M * eyck Bertl: get-out-of-chroot problem with XFS barrier? You already fixed it, and I've got it patched and tested. 1123738477 Q * id_ Quit: Leaving 1123738698 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow) 1123740602 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host111.201-252-6.telecom.net.ar 1123745269 Q * tchan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123745403 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1123745827 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1123747498 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1123749330 Q * alexx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123749400 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net 1123749551 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1123749755 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1123749991 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@host-62-69-64-93.bsve.net 1123750137 P * jsambrook 1123750842 J * monrad ~monrad@195.97.130.53 1123750864 Q * erwan_taf Quit: Leaving 1123752313 Q * alexx Quit: Bye 1123752366 M * electrolinux on a gentoo host, i want to build a fc4 vserver, but miss some infos: what build method (yum apt-rpm) and how to configure .distributions/fc4/ 1123752498 M * electrolinux the 2 methods gives same errors: which: no rpm in (path:path...) 1123752651 J * f00 ~dab@83.149.119.113 1123752653 M * f00 hello all 1123752696 M * BWare emerge rpm ? 1123753352 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net 1123753431 M * electrolinux BWare: of course I miss it ! doing so right now, thanks 1123754148 J * Doener` ~doener@p54875901.dip.t-dialin.net 1123754527 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1123754532 M * Bertl morning folks! 1123754538 M * Bertl welcome f00! 1123754577 Q * Doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123754801 M * Bertl eyck: thanks ... will do some tests with 1.2.10 (regarding barrier and tagging) now that we have them 1123754825 M * eyck thnx 1123754864 M * lonewolff morning all 1123754875 M * Bertl morning lonewolff! 1123754917 M * DaPhreak lo Bertl 1123754936 M * Bertl hi DaPhreak! :) 1123754957 M * Bertl and? any feedback for 2.1.0-pre1 yet? 1123755044 M * Bertl DaPhreak: did you play with udev for TEST_32M.img? (just curious) 1123755914 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123757491 M * Hollow morning Bertl 1123757501 M * Bertl morning Hollow! 1123757521 M * Hollow any news wrt the start/stop howto? 1123757560 M * Bertl no, sorry, is currently delayed ... 1123757598 M * Bertl I discovered that I have to do some tests before I can finish/write that ... and currently devel and 2.4 is keeping me busy ... 1123757647 M * Hollow k 1123757775 J * Kasap ~Kasap@85.96.213.58 1123757777 P * Kasap 1123757804 M * Bertl hmm ... interesting those short visits ... 1123758111 M * eyck he came, nothing happened... 1123758115 M * eyck got bored and left 1123758135 M * eyck you just don't live as fast as normal kids today, 1123758221 J * Neubix ~brian@p54B07212.dip.t-dialin.net 1123758227 M * Neubix Hi @all 1123758300 M * Bertl eyck: lol! 1123758305 M * Bertl morning Neubix! 1123758310 M * Neubix Hi Herbert 1123758376 M * Neubix I have setup 10 LVM Partitions and copy the content of one referent vserver inside .. it's running well :-) 1123758454 M * Bertl excellent! 1123758456 M * Neubix but how to enable the quota support inside a vserver ? quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option. 1123758551 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Linux2.6/index.php?page=Per+Context+Quota 1123758561 M * Neubix ok thanx 1123758568 M * Bertl look at this 'howto' it is for the shared case ... 1123758584 M * Bertl but a lot of things are true for the separate disk/volume case too 1123758598 M * Bertl for example, you need the vroot device to make it secure 1123758612 M * Bertl and you need the mtab entry on the guest (with ufs) 1123758646 M * Neubix ok, in the Howto I fond all this ? 1123758693 M * Bertl yep, look in the middle of the 'how to start' section 1123758710 M * Bertl basically from 'create a vroot device' on 1123758740 M * Bertl only the cqhadd is not used 1123758747 M * Neubix ok, one thing .. , the LVM Partition for e.g.vserver01 , must be mounted with quota ?? 1123758759 M * Bertl you use vrsetup instead, which works like losetup 1123758772 M * Bertl well, yes and no, really depends on the filesystem 1123758781 M * Neubix ext3 1123758786 M * Bertl for example ext2 just ignores the quota option 1123758812 M * Bertl ext3 recently got journaled quota, so I guess it requires thos options to work properly 1123758827 M * Neubix ok thanx .. 1123758839 M * Bertl in any case, it won't hurt to use them on mount 1123758854 M * Bertl but you definitely need them in the guest's mtab 1123758886 M * Neubix yes .. I think so .. !! :-) 1123759269 M * Neubix mknod /dev/vroot/device b 4 device .. hmmm /dev/vroot nor exist .. device and device .. ?? I show you my mount .. can you tell me what I must enter on "device" and "device" 1123759271 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost01 on /home/vservers/vhost01 type ext3 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759271 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost02 on /home/vservers/vhost02 type ext3 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759271 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost03 on /home/vservers/vhost03 type ext3 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759271 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost04 on /home/vservers/vhost04 type ext2 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759271 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost05 on /home/vservers/vhost05 type ext2 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759273 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost06 on /home/vservers/vhost06 type ext2 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759275 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost07 on /home/vservers/vhost07 type ext2 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759277 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost08 on /home/vservers/vhost08 type ext2 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759279 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost09 on /home/vservers/vhost09 type ext2 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759281 M * Neubix /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost10 on /home/vservers/vhost10 type ext2 (rw,grpquota,usrquota) 1123759493 M * Bertl Neubix: you want to create entries for the vroot device ... first, what method for dev entries does your distro use? udev/devfs/files? 1123759564 M * Neubix hmm thats the question .. I use debian sarge 1123759590 M * Bertl okay, probably narrows that down to udev or static 1123759608 M * Bertl do you have many, many device nodes of devices you do not even know of in your /dev? 1123759693 M * Neubix I don't understand .. my english .. :( 1123759777 M * Bertl okay, look into your host's '/dev' dir ... 1123759789 M * Neubix in my /dev directory are many devices 1123759803 M * Bertl okay, check if you find a device which does not exist 1123759824 M * Bertl for example, sda5 when you do not have scsi disks 1123759830 M * Neubix yes many .. 1123759846 M * Bertl okay, so most likely you are using static dev entries ... 1123759854 M * Neubix alll devices are know .. sd hd ........ 1123759867 M * Neubix yes .. I think .. 1123759885 M * Bertl in this case, just create a few (as many as you have guests) devices with 1123759900 M * Bertl mknod /dev/vroot0 b 4 0 1123759905 M * Bertl mknod /dev/vroot1 b 4 1 1123759907 M * Bertl ... 1123759909 M * Neubix ah, ok .. 1123759969 M * Bertl and use those whenever the page refers to /dev/vroot/device 1123759982 M * Bertl you have to setup one for each partition/guest 1123760013 M * Bertl by default the kernel provides 8 devices, if you need more, then you have to specify max_vroot=N (N can be up to 255) 1123760037 M * Bertl (in your case you probably want at least 10) 1123760062 M * Neubix ok e.g /dev/vroot/vroot0 and vroot1 ....? 1123760100 M * Bertl huh? 1123760171 M * Neubix "and use those whenever the page refers to /dev/vroot/device" my english is to bad ... /dev/vroot/device not exist .. 1123760189 M * Bertl you've heard of devfs? 1123760268 M * Neubix heard yes ;-) 1123760289 M * Bertl okay, it's a virtual fielsystem creating those device nodes for you (from within the kernel) 1123760321 M * Bertl IMHO a great idea, but it isn't really liked by the kernel folks ... so it will be removed soon and replaced by other stuff 1123760349 M * Bertl anyway, this devfs uses a tree like structure for devices 1123760364 M * Bertl so for example, you have /dev/hda1 right? 1123760384 M * Neubix ok 1123760385 M * Bertl while devfs uses something like /dev/discs/disc1/part1 1123760423 M * Bertl both are actually the _same_ device node .. so they will contain the same major and minor id, and be of the same type 1123760459 M * Bertl so as I am using devfs, the device nodes are just there, and they are called /dev/vroot/0, /dev/vroot/1, ... and so on ... 1123760494 M * Bertl in your case (not using devfs) you have to create those devices first 1123760495 M * DaPhreak Bertl: didn't had time yet ... maybe on the weekend 1123760531 M * Bertl Neubix: and you probably don't want to name them with devfs names (because that's probably very confusing) 1123760551 M * Bertl so instead of using /dev/vroot/0 for example, you use /dev/vroot0 1123760573 M * Bertl but again, the device node has to be the same ... so you have to create it with the mknod command ... 1123760596 M * Neubix ok, I think I understand 1123760600 M * Bertl mknod /dev/vroot0 b 4 0 (this says, make a block device, named /dev/vroot0, with major 4 and minor 0) 1123760632 M * Bertl vroot (the device driver) provides 8 devices by default, uses the block major 4 and minors 0 - 255 1123760698 M * Neubix the vroot driver are inside 2.0 !? 1123760715 M * Bertl yep, it's part of the kernel patch 1123760744 M * Bertl you can enable and disable it in the kernel config (by default, enabled) 1123760751 M * Neubix ok, " provides 8 devices" this is the vserver partition .. 1123760802 M * Neubix 8 vservers ?? 1123760827 M * Bertl /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost01 is your 'real' device, and you need one vroot device for that (e.g. /dev/vroot1) 1123760845 M * Neubix ok 1123760849 M * Bertl yes, default is 8 devices, but you can have up to 255 1123760870 M * Neubix yes ok .. 1123760873 M * Bertl so the /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost02 would use /dev/vroot2 1123760896 M * Bertl the purpose of this device is to filter acess to the real device 1123760915 M * Bertl the guest should be able to send quota commands, but not to mess with the real device 1123760948 Q * case Read error: No route to host 1123760971 M * Neubix ok .. now I begin to understand .. 1123760973 M * Neubix :-) 1123760982 M * Bertl good! 1123761001 M * Neubix yes .. I have now the input for the next Night .. 1123761027 M * Neubix but bevor I must bye some pizza and a sixpack :-) 1123761031 M * Bertl I hope you are making some notes, so that you can improve the documentation in the future ... 1123761059 M * Neubix I try it in germen .. 1123761264 M * Neubix ok, many thanx to you .. 1123761339 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1123762170 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection 1123762429 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1123762433 M * DaPhreak Bertl: about the legacy stuff ... is that also needed for vs2.0 and the .208-utils ? 1123762460 M * Bertl which legacy stuff? 1123762552 M * DaPhreak the one from the Kconfig :) 1123762584 M * Bertl hehe, you need legacynet for now .. unless enrico switched recently 1123763375 M * Neubix Herbert, in the Howto is a command "cqhadd -v -x 100 /dev/vroot/device" . but I think this is für kernel 2.4 with the tools .. I'm right ? 1123763413 M * Bertl yep, it's also for shared quota .. you do not need it for your setup, but you want to do the vrsetup there ... 1123763550 M * Neubix Usage: vrsetup [-dID] .. ok, rootdev is e.g. /dev/vhost1 but what is -dID ?? the context ? 1123764119 M * Bertl vrsetup 1123764129 M * Bertl that's the typical usage for setting it up ... 1123764149 M * Bertl and you can delete it (like with losetup) with vrsetup -d 1123764163 M * Bertl you do not use I and D (they were for testing only) 1123764333 M * Hollow Bertl: apropos... the only thing i need for quota on seperate partitions is the usrquota option in the guests fstab, no? 1123764363 M * Doener` morning folks 1123764364 M * Bertl depends on the filesystem (as I mentioned today :) 1123764369 M * Bertl morning Doener`! 1123764381 M * Doener` Hollow: why does libvserver need linux headers 2.6.12? 1123764383 M * Hollow Bertl: sorry, can't follow all conversations in here ;) 1123764389 M * Hollow Bertl: it's xfs 1123764401 M * Hollow Doener`: because of some define for the personality lists 1123764423 M * Hollow i don't know if it's necessary 1123764437 M * Bertl would be great to avoid kernel headers ... 1123764440 M * Hollow the topmost define in personality-list.c iirc 1123764470 M * Hollow Bertl: why? 1123764490 M * Bertl because of package building (in the future) 1123764513 M * Doener` no linux-headers-2.6.12 in gentoo yet :/ 1123764527 M * Bertl Hollow: just think, cross compiling for 12 archs ... 1123764547 M * Bertl (each one would require separate kernel headers :) 1123764607 M * Hollow Doener`: i filed a bug for this 1123764654 M * Hollow but if we'd skip kernel headers completely... 1123764658 M * Neubix Bertl: ok is eg /vservers//dev/hdv1 and e.g. is /dev/vhost1 1123764865 Q * DaPhreak Remote host closed the connection 1123764941 M * Bertl Neubix: no :) 1123764947 M * Neubix :-) 1123764949 M * Neubix hmmmm 1123764969 M * Bertl well, you probably mean the right thing but ... 1123764986 M * Neubix but ... ? 1123764993 M * Hollow thanatos ~ # uname -a 1123764994 M * Hollow Linux thanatos 2.6.12-vs2.0 #2 Thu Aug 11 14:51:57 CEST 2005 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 1123764994 M * Hollow :) 1123765002 M * Bertl rootdev = /dev/vroot1 for example (you might have copied that to /vservers//dev/hdv1 already) 1123765018 M * Neubix yes I have 1123765037 M * Bertl and real-rootdev is probably /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost01 in your case, no? 1123765066 M * Neubix ok .. that's right .. 1123765071 M * Bertl Hollow: hmm, and what does it contain? 1123765110 M * Hollow atm one vserver with about 6 users, web, mail, mysql, ssh 1123765110 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@85.10.237.60 1123765118 M * Neubix Hellow: Linux vserver 2.6.12.4-vs2.0 #2 SMP Wed Aug 10 11:16:05 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux 1123765124 M * Hollow at least two more vservers with mail dns will be added this week 1123765131 M * Bertl Hollow: hmm, I was referring to the kernel patch .... 1123765157 M * Hollow Bertl: it contains genpatches (http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/genpatches/) and vs2.0 patch + bme 1123765178 M * Bertl I would really appreciate if you could name it something kile vs2.0h or so ... 1123765188 M * Bertl *like even 1123765194 M * Hollow 2.0h? 1123765204 M * Bertl h = Hollow 1123765219 M * Bertl or maybe g like gentoo or something else 1123765239 M * Hollow i.e. include a vendor tag in the name? 1123765244 M * Bertl the debian kernels at least add the -N so I can tell them apart from mainline 1123765288 M * Bertl Hollow: this is just because folks come here and show me a testme.sh output, stating some 2.6.12-vs2.0, and I don't know for example that this includes bme and other stuff ... 1123765329 M * Hollow k 1123765349 M * Hollow what about 2.6.12-vs2.0-gentoo-rX 1123765389 M * Bertl is fine for me too .. anything but -vs is actually fine 1123765400 M * Hollow DaPhreak: ^^ 1123765403 M * Hollow k 1123765448 M * Bertl of course, the -gentoo- would be really good, as it actually provides additional information 1123765466 M * DaPhreak yeah .. just a second :) 1123765910 M * Neubix hmmmm .... vserver:/dev# vrsetup /dev/vroot10 /dev/mapper/vservers-vhost10 1123765910 M * Neubix open("/dev/vroot10"): No such device or address 1123765931 M * Bertl probably you do not have a vroot10 yet :) 1123765955 M * Neubix vserver:/dev# ls -l |grep vroot 1123765955 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 0 2005-08-11 08:32 vroot00 1123765955 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 1 2005-08-11 08:32 vroot01 1123765955 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 2 2005-08-11 08:33 vroot02 1123765955 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 3 2005-08-11 08:33 vroot03 1123765957 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 4 2005-08-11 08:33 vroot04 1123765958 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 5 2005-08-11 08:33 vroot05 1123765960 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 6 2005-08-11 08:48 vroot06 1123765962 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 7 2005-08-11 08:48 vroot07 1123765964 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 8 2005-08-11 08:48 vroot08 1123765966 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 9 2005-08-11 08:49 vroot09 1123765968 M * Neubix brw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 10 2005-08-11 08:58 vroot10 1123765980 M * Bertl did you raise the kernel limit of 8 devices yet? 1123766018 M * Neubix no :-( ... ok .. how to do this ?? I have a look to the .config file .. but I don't find it 1123766038 M * Bertl did you compile the vroot as module or monolithic? 1123766048 M * Bertl (monolithic = into the kernel) 1123766050 M * Neubix no modules !! 1123766081 M * Bertl okay, IIRC the option is max_vroot and you specify it at the kernel command line (in your bootloader) 1123766092 M * Bertl but let me verify that before you reboot 1123766134 M * Bertl module_param(max_vroot, int, 0); 1123766145 M * Bertl yep, so you just add max_vroot=20 for example ... 1123766223 M * Neubix oh god, befor sarge I use lilo .. now I use Grub the first time .. 1123766240 M * Neubix /boot/grub/menu.lst 1123766244 M * Neubix i think .. 1123766269 M * Neubix kernel /boot/linux-vserver max_vroot=20 root=/dev/sda1 ro 1123766277 M * Neubix is this ok ? 1123766277 M * Bertl yep, perfect ... 1123766295 M * Neubix ok .. I'm a guru *smile* :-) 1123766513 M * Neubix no guru .. open("/dev/vroot10"): No such device or address after reboot :-( 1123766539 M * Bertl check with 'dmesg -s 100000 | grep vroot' 1123766562 M * Neubix vroot: loaded (max 8 devices) 1123766565 M * Neubix hmmm 1123766616 M * Bertl cat /proc/cmdline 1123766637 M * Neubix max_vroot=20 root=/dev/sda1 ro 1123766661 M * Bertl interesting, might be you found a bug :) 1123766674 M * Neubix yippie !! :-) 1123766850 M * Bertl to fix the issue for you, change the drivers/block/loop.c file, at the line which says ... max_vroot = 8; to something higher ... 1123766860 M * Bertl (in the kernel source, and recompile) 1123766903 M * Neubix ok .. I do this .. 1123767043 M * Neubix hmmm .. interesting .. in drivers/block/loop.c I cannot found a max_vroot 1123767059 M * Bertl ah, sorry, not loop.c vroot.c ofcourse ... 1123767065 M * Neubix ok 1123767070 M * Bertl but if you wait a few minutes, you can get a patch 1123767136 M * Neubix a patch for only this ?? no, I edit this .. thanx .. 1123767143 M * Bertl no, a real fix :) 1123767178 M * Neubix ok .. please inside "found by neubix" *hihihi* 1123767295 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1123767412 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@85.10.237.60 1123767429 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1123767483 M * Bertl Neubix: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-2.0.1/delta-vroot-fix01.diff 1123767509 M * Hollow Bertl: how can i use quota with xfs? quotacheck tells me xfs needs no checking, and repquota says it can't find the quota file 1123767551 M * Hollow erm, the latter was quotaon 1123767553 M * Hollow not repquota 1123767572 M * Neubix ok thanx :-) 1123767584 M * Bertl Hollow: sorry, I don't use xfs quota ... you probably have to ask xfs quota folks ... 1123767591 M * Hollow k 1123767600 M * Bertl but let us know what you find out ... 1123767619 M * Neubix this issue was found on Aug. 11th 2005 by the famous 1123767619 M * Neubix ; guru Brian "Neubix" 1123767621 M * Neubix :-) 1123767708 M * Bertl if you find more issues, you get a place in hour Hall'o'Fame :) 1123767744 M * Neubix ohhh Thanx !! .. 1123767746 M * Neubix :-) 1123767762 M * DaPhreak Bertl: is "EXTRAVERSION = -vs2.0-gentoo" sufficient ?! 1123767794 M * Bertl yeah, is fine for me ... 1123767887 M * Bertl Neubix: well, actually I'm inclined to add you the to Hall'o'Fame right now, for spotting the first 2.0 issue ... 1123767908 M * Bertl Doener`, DaPhreak, Hollow, *: what do you folks think? 1123767929 M * DaPhreak no problem with that :) 1123767952 M * Doener` about the HoF thing? 1123767956 M * Bertl yup 1123767957 M * Doener` no problem... 1123767966 M * Hollow well, i don't care 1123767974 M * DaPhreak be back in a minute 1123767980 A * DaPhreak punches Hollow 1123767983 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1123767986 M * Hollow :) 1123768038 M * Bertl Neubix: so, if you like to be added, I need a real name and a county (probably DE, germany?) 1123768052 M * Bertl *country ... 1123768143 J * psy ~kvirc@212.203.31.1 1123768151 M * Bertl welcome psy! 1123768161 M * Neubix Kai Neubecker .. Frankfurt Main ;-) 1123768228 M * Bertl k, here you go: http://linux-vserver.org/Hall+of+Fame 1123768285 J * Duckx ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1123768294 M * Neubix Thak you !!! That's greate .. .. but you can add my compeny too ... if you like .. 1123768342 Q * erwan_taf Remote host closed the connection 1123768357 M * Bertl well, I guess they will use linux-vserver for something, so better add them to the list of providers or users ... no? 1123768410 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/VServer+Hosting and http://linux-vserver.org/VServer+Users 1123768410 Q * psy Quit: 1123768422 M * Bertl welcome Duckx?! 1123768423 M * Neubix I like to use .. I Start at biginning of this year and I have no time to set up this .. when it running well, I use it on www.neubix.de 1123768461 M * Bertl great, so once you're there, just add your company to the hosting page ... 1123768521 M * Neubix thanx .. bevor I use it, I must understand du secure my customers 1123768543 M * Bertl of course, it is important that provider know what they are doing ... 1123768562 M * Neubix yes, I know .. 1123768619 M * Neubix the problem is the Time .. 1123768679 M * Bertl well, that's the "investment" a provider has to make ... without it, services will not be excellent ... 1123768884 M * Neubix I know .. start the first Server in the new datacenter @ 05.01.2005 .. and no Downtime no problem and high performence ;-) 1123769156 M * Bertl okay, I'm off for now ... back later this evening ... 1123769163 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1123770480 Q * Duckx xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * Neubix xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * f00 xenon.oftc.net 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xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * skceb xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * janra xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * cryo xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * Doener` xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * alexx xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770480 Q * monrad xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * prae xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * lonewolff xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * electrolinux xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * daniel_hozac xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * dlp xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * nokoya xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * Waktugal xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * ntrs xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * Beave xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * meebey xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * mugwump xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * brc xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * eyck xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * dsoul xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * gregster xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * Medivh xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * nox xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * pusling xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * Greek0 xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * obi xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * hetche xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * Pazzo xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * stupidawy xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * SNy xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * micah xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * tchan xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * logger xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770483 Q * albeiro xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1123770777 J * Duckx ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1123770777 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1123770777 J * Neubix ~brian@p54B07212.dip.t-dialin.net 1123770777 J * Doener` ~doener@p54875901.dip.t-dialin.net 1123770777 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net 1123770777 J * f00 ~dab@83.149.119.113 1123770777 J * monrad ~monrad@195.97.130.53 1123770777 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1123770777 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1123770777 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123770777 J * logger ~rs@vds.pas-mal.com 1123770777 J * lonewolff ~lonewolff@host86-128-17-74.range86-128.btcentralplus.com 1123770777 J * electrolinux ~dib@ADijon-153-1-15-20.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1123770777 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6f1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1123770777 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt 1123770777 J * obi ~obi@asus.saftware.de 1123770777 J * dlp ~ddlp@tangerine.chiccp.net 1123770777 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123770777 J * Waktugal ~Wellhest@cpe.atm4-0-1191200.0x50a6ca0e.hrnxx4.customer.tele.dk 1123770777 J * ntrs ~ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123770777 J * albeiro ~albeiro@albeiro.usercloak.oftc.net 1123770777 J * Beave ~beave@vistech.org 1123770777 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1123770777 J * dalys dalle@h208n1fls34o1122.telia.com 1123770777 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1123770777 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123770777 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1123770777 J * brc bruce@200165193033.user.veloxzone.com.br 1123770777 J * hetche ~hetche@dsl-58-6-34-71.nsw.westnet.com.au 1123770777 J * janra janra@paradox.homeip.net 1123770777 J * skceb skceb@bang-bang.feuer-frei.com 1123770777 J * Bertl_oO ~herbert@212.16.62.52 1123770777 J * BobR_oO ~georg@212.16.62.52 1123770777 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1123770777 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1123770777 J * chand ~chand@staff.lycos.fr 1123770777 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1123770778 J * derbien ~derbien@whiterabbit.nbmc.de 1123770778 J * FaUl ~immo@hobbynuttenverzeichniss.de 1123770778 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1123770778 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1123770778 J * ray6 ~ray@klon3.gcsc2.ray.net 1123770778 J * stupidawy foo@198.77.239.131 1123770778 J * SNy a7c816ce0c@bmx-chemnitz.de 1123770778 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1123770778 J * Greek0 ~greek0@81.189.246.175 1123770778 J * pusling ~pusling@195.215.29.124 1123770778 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1123770778 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1123770778 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de 1123770778 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1123770778 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl 1123770778 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1123770778 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1123770778 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1123770778 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1123770793 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 484 seconds 1123771281 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1123771448 Q * dsoul Remote host closed the connection 1123771535 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1123771650 J * Loki|muh_ loki@satanix.de 1123771650 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123771742 J * tobi ~tobi@Ottawa-HSE-ppp266680.sympatico.ca 1123771759 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl 1123771856 M * tobi hello gentlemen. I'm running vserver with the latest utils (208) and i have trouble gettting vserver-copy to work. 1123771913 M * tobi E: vserver-copy: Vserver file "/etc/vservers/template.conf" does not exist | i believe this would be correct for the old directory layout but i use the new one 1123771917 M * tobi any suggestions? 1123772204 Q * Loki|muh_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123772211 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1123772251 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de 1123772279 M * tobi alternatively, whats the manual way to create a new guest as a copy of another 1123772331 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1123772348 M * electrolinux tobi: vserver-new clone --help 1123772391 M * Bertl tobi: you have to ask Enrico ... but you can work around that by creating a skeleton with the -m skeleton build method and copying over the guest dir ... 1123772431 M * Bertl I have filed a bunch of feature requests to allow for a 'clone' method and for reconfiguration of an existing guest ... 1123772457 M * Bertl electrolinux: there is no vserver-new in 0.30.208 ... 1123772477 M * renihs whats wrong with simply cp the vserver and its configs and modify them? to clone i mean 1123772502 M * Bertl you have to modify the symlinks too .. except for that this works too, of course ... 1123772517 M * renihs and the simlinks, yes 1123772523 M * renihs argl, symlinks 1123772779 M * tobi ok i'll try the skeleton method 1123772808 M * tobi hm as a matter of fact i have vserver-new 1123772879 M * Bertl where does it come from? 1123772887 M * tobi maybe gentoo? 1123772921 M * Bertl could easily be ... Hollow? 1123772936 M * Hollow yup 1123772953 M * Bertl so does that work? including the links? 1123772965 M * Hollow sec, have to read backlog 1123772969 M * renihs vserver-copy vserver-info vserver-stat 1123772973 M * renihs i only have those 1123772981 M * renihs and its latest sync and world-update 1123772989 M * Hollow renihs: it's in 208-r1 1123772992 M * renihs me to 1123773012 M * renihs ahno 1123773015 M * renihs 0.30.208 1123773020 M * tobi vserver-new is definitely gentoo specific 1123773020 M * renihs gruml 1123773023 M * Hollow Bertl: which symlinks do you mean? 1123773034 M * renihs in /etc/vservers/ 1123773034 M * Hollow tobi: right 1123773042 M * Bertl in the config, it seems to clone guests, no? 1123773056 M * Hollow Bertl, renihs: yep, but the config is setup via "vserver ... build" 1123773063 M * Hollow with skeleton mode 1123773076 M * Hollow see generic_build() in vserver-new 1123773084 M * Bertl ah, okay ... good .. could we integrate this back into mainline? 1123773102 M * Bertl not as separate tool, but as clone build method? 1123773131 M * Bertl IIRC, I already provided a dummy stub for the 'clone' option 1123773135 M * Hollow well, vserver-new does not only clone ververs... it also builds gentoo vservers based on a stage3 tarball 1123773160 M * Hollow i'd need to dig into the build code in util-vserver first 1123773160 M * Bertl even better what about adding this as -m gentoo ? 1123773210 M * Bertl as usual, I'd be happy to have 'similar' tools across all distros ... 1123773215 M * Hollow i'll take a look at this 1123773233 M * Bertl otherwise we have to stop support for distro specific stuff, which I really do not want to do ... 1123773247 M * renihs as long as gentoo is supported :) 1123773278 M * renihs the gentoo penguin is so cool 1123773297 M * renihs fastest bird on earth too :) 1123773317 M * Hollow :) 1123773333 M * renihs here is a real cool closeup from a gentoo: http://www.doebling.sth.ac.at/livedvd/gentoo.jpg 1123773343 M * renihs the red stripes make him faster 1123773371 M * Bertl http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040111 1123773404 M * renihs hehe 1123773781 M * Bertl Hollow: btw, thanks for the time you spend on linux-vserver! 1123773907 Q * electrolinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123773923 M * Bertl okay, busy again ... cya 1123773930 M * renihs cu 1123773933 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1123774256 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123774399 M * Hollow Bertl_oO: you're welcome, i love vserver :) 1123774424 M * renihs and gentoos i hope :) 1123774430 M * Hollow sure ;) 1123774440 M * renihs they are so cute, still trying to find that movie from that expetition 1123774459 J * electrolinux ~dib@ADijon-153-1-41-75.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr 1123774466 M * renihs but they did not search gentoos, they only found gentoos, gentoos and again gentoos, (they searched some stupid other penguin) 1123774476 M * Hollow heh 1123774489 M * renihs and that dan costa guy is again somewhere in the ice, not reachable by mail it seems 1123774644 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123775218 Q * dalys Quit: Everybody live for the music-go-round! 1123775367 M * Greek0 Bertl told me there's some problem with util-vserver currently, built with new gcc/binutils. someone here who can elaborate? 1123775559 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1123775714 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1123776604 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@85.10.237.60 1123776945 M * Neubix a vserver quota crack here ? 1123777161 M * Neubix I edit the mtab file of a vserver and change "/dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0" to "/dev/hdv1 / ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0" ... after I start the vserver the mtab jump back to "/dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0" 1123777304 M * Neubix ok, now I must go home .. CU @all 1123777328 Q * Neubix Quit: Verlassend 1123777351 M * Greek0 no patience.. 1123777381 M * daniel_hozac Greek0: goku's problem? 1123777467 M * Greek0 neubix 1123777511 Q * tobi Quit: leaving 1123777600 M * daniel_hozac i was referring to the new gcc problem ;) 1123777652 M * Greek0 well, depends on who goku is, I don't know him 1123777685 M * Greek0 I just told Bertl I had some problem with one tool I was playing with, it'd misscompile with recent gcc 1123777697 M * daniel_hozac his gcc 4.0.1-3 compiled util-vserver had setattr/showattr binaries that returned Bad address all the time. 1123777714 M * Greek0 some time into I found it was a bug with relocation of absolute addresses by ld at the static linking phas 1123777718 M * Greek0 e 1123777756 M * Greek0 I told that bertl one hour ago and he said it could be the problem of util-vserver too 1123778363 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1123780201 Q * dsoul Read error: Operation timed out 1123780707 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl 1123780853 J * greenone ~Immundus@p549A8830.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123781470 M * greenone hi ich hab hier ein paar fehlermeldungen vom testme script mir fehlen offensichtlich ein paar libs 1123781625 M * lonewolff what exactly are you missing? 1123781645 M * lonewolff (what was the output of the script) 1123781723 M * greenone im missing the libserver.so.O 1123781833 M * lonewolff hmm, i dont know why that would happen, hopefully someone else will know and help you out tho when they have time, sorry 1123781875 M * greenone np problem thanks anyway 1123782135 M * greenone brb 1123782146 Q * greenone Quit: life would be nice, if there was a user limitation.... 1123783167 J * greenone ~greenone@p549A8830.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123783267 J * comfrey ~comfrey@h-64-105-87-234.sttnwaho.covad.net 1123783272 M * comfrey hey all 1123783290 M * comfrey i am attempting to use vserver-copy and it errors on me... 1123783316 M * comfrey cant find the /etc/vservers/.conf file 1123783326 M * comfrey running sarge 1123783360 Q * ntrs Remote host closed the connection 1123783404 M * comfrey am i missing something? 1123783413 M * comfrey or should i upgrade my tools... 1123783662 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123784063 Q * f00 Quit: nothing to do here. 1123784112 Q * greenone Quit: 1123784350 A * electrolinux ame ? 1123784352 J * greenone ~Immundus@p549A8830.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1123784378 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host111.201-252-6.telecom.net.ar 1123784396 A * electrolinux found a good way to play with irc server 1123784455 M * greenone oh and that is how? 1123784464 M * Hollow greenone: libvserver.so.0 is from util-vserver 1123784470 A * electrolinux found a good way to play with irc server solo 1123784514 M * electrolinux sh*t! i'm just testing here and there :-( 1123784526 M * greenone ok but why didnt it install with util-server? 1123784544 M * daniel_hozac it does. 1123784560 M * greenone the test script says its missing 1123784592 M * Hollow greenone: find /usr/lib -name '*libvserver.so*' 1123784593 M * comfrey dag, so.. i am still attempting to copy a vserver... 1123784623 M * Hollow comfrey: cp -a /vservers/foo /vservers/bar 1123784646 M * comfrey Hollow: and do the same with the conf dir? 1123784653 M * comfrey and then change vars right? 1123784658 M * daniel_hozac and symlinks. 1123784659 M * Hollow comfrey: yep 1123784671 M * Hollow better use skeleton build method to generate the cofig 1123784673 M * Hollow config 1123784697 P * electrolinux thanks for all, see you soon 1123784703 M * greenone nope definatley not there 1123784710 M * comfrey skeleton build method?? 1123784723 M * Hollow greenone: then something is terribly wrong with your util install 1123784729 M * Hollow comfrey: vserver foo build -m skeleton 1123784741 M * greenone yes that was my conclusion too but what? 1123784756 M * Hollow greenone: *shrug* distro? 1123784756 M * daniel_hozac greenone: no shared libraries, perhaps? 1123784770 M * greenone debian sarge 1123784789 M * daniel_hozac greenone: util-vserver prefix? 1123784816 M * Hollow hm, long time no apt here... but maybe you can try to reinstall the util-vserver packages and see if libvserver will be installed 1123784831 M * greenone i didnt use apt 1123784839 M * Hollow debian without apt? 1123784849 M * greenone jupp 1123784878 M * Hollow which package manager does debian use nowadays? 1123784884 M * greenone apt 1123784890 M * Hollow *confused* 1123784895 M * greenone but that doesnt mean you have to use it 1123784898 M * lonewolff Hollow: dpkg 1123784899 M * daniel_hozac i thought dpkg was the actual package manager. 1123784911 M * lonewolff daniel_hozac: it is 1123784913 M * Hollow well, k, apt is just a frontend ;) 1123785125 M * greenone do i really have to use dietlibc? 1123785190 M * greenone im going to try that... 1123785191 M * eyck yes, because vserver declared so 1123785309 Q * atsab Remote host closed the connection 1123785315 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt 1123785464 M * greenone ok it was the dietlibc thx 1123785495 M * greenone now the fun begins *gg* 1123785781 M * comfrey thanks Hollow, i think ihave it 1123786837 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1123790554 Q * greenone Quit: life would be nice, if there was a user limitation.... 1123794101 Q * lilo Quit: bbiab 1123796318 J * Aiken ~james@tooax7-032.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123799869 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow) 1123800847 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123802089 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1123802615 J * Eugene eugenesan@bzq-219-189-212.cablep.bezeqint.net 1123802672 Q * Eugene Quit: 1123802704 J * Eugene eugenesan@bzq-219-189-212.cablep.bezeqint.net 1123802725 N * Eugene eugenesan 1123802725 Q * eugenesan Quit: 1123802765 J * eugenesan eugenesan@bzq-219-189-212.cablep.bezeqint.net 1123802821 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123802863 M * eugenesan hi all, how can i check/change network settings from within virtualE? 1123802873 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1123803029 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123803489 M * daniel_hozac use iproute. 1123803497 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1123803519 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1123803538 M * Bertl evening folks! 1123803758 M * Bertl eugenesan: what is virtualE? 1123803929 M * Bertl quite a number of new faces ... hi comfrey! 1123804048 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123804157 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds