1123459262 M * ray6 what reminds me I still have my untestes xen 3+vserver kernel lying around, just no time to finish this :/ 1123459458 M * Bertl ray6: hmm, please remind me, what was the issue with xen 3? 1123459589 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1123460008 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host247.201-252-52.telecom.net.ar 1123460304 M * Aiken I am getting 027 and 037 failing with testfs 1123460309 M * Aiken on the alpha 1123460358 M * Aiken everything passes with bash testfs.sh-0.04 -F ext2,ext3 -D /dev/loop0 -M /root/test 1123460405 M * Bertl what kind of tagging? 1123460411 M * Aiken with bash testfs.sh-0.04 -F ext2,ext3 -D /dev/loop0 -M /root/test -x 027 and 037 fail 1123460464 M * Bertl hmm .. why 0.04? 1123460485 M * Aiken that is what I had from last time we went through this 1123460530 M * Aiken grabbing .06 now 1123460533 M * Bertl i.c. ... 1123460689 M * Aiken samething with .06 http://pastebin.com/331619 1123461093 M * Bertl hmm, somehow your test output looks _very_ different to mine ... 1123461151 M * Bertl http://pastebin.com/331622 1123461240 Q * mountie Remote host closed the connection 1123461385 M * Aiken did you use the -t option? 1123461395 M * Bertl Aiken: I especially wonder why the VCI information looks different ... 1123461430 M * Bertl http://pastebin.com/331624 1123461446 M * Aiken ok 1123461560 M * Bertl basically your results show that you have no xid protection on your filesystem, but everything else seems to work quite fine ... which is a little strange ... 1123461642 M * Aiken missing kernel option? 1123461671 M * Bertl out of the box, I can not figure any option which would cause that ... 1123461687 M * Bertl s/box /my head/ :) 1123461727 M * Bertl let's assume your xid tagging is off ... or set to something strange 1123461750 M * Bertl then it should either fail on the remount, or with the xid read ... 1123461797 M * Bertl 020 or 024 1123461848 M * Aiken trying something 1123461861 M * Bertl hmm, maybe again the ewrite issue? 1123461885 M * Aiken vcontext: execvp("testfs.sh-0.06"): No such file or directory 1123461910 M * Aiken it works now 1123461926 M * Aiken I put testfs.sh-0.06 in the PATH 1123461934 M * Bertl huh? 1123461948 M * Aiken the file is stiing in /root 1123461955 M * Aiken which is not in the PATH 1123461957 M * Bertl ah, I see, you execute it with bash testfs.sh-0.04 1123461961 M * Aiken yes 1123461972 M * Bertl specifying the _full_ path should work too 1123461980 M * Bertl it uses $0 to call itself ... 1123461982 M * Aiken I just hit it with chmod +x and copyied it to /usr/bin/ 1123462011 M * Bertl I guess I have to add some path expansion stuff too ... 1123462029 Q * anonymousc Remote host closed the connection 1123462088 M * Bertl okay, so still something left for testfs.sh-0.07 :) 1123462581 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1123462607 M * Bertl wb mountie! 1123462632 M * mountie Bertl: It's been a long time of net deprivation... But a well appreciated break.... 1123462723 M * Bertl good, I'm off to bed now, actually very tired ... 1123462732 J * anonymousc ~anonymous@staff.internode.com.au 1123462735 M * Bertl have a good whatever everyone .. cya tomorrow ... 1123462741 M * Bertl aloha anonymousc! 1123462748 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1123462753 M * anonymousc nite bertl. 1123464284 J * Johnsie ~john@acs-24-154-53-210.zoominternet.net 1123464454 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1123464463 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-212.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123464588 J * goku ~beefjunk@71-36-81-189.slkc.qwest.net 1123464957 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1123467537 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-171.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123467854 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123468061 Q * matti Quit: 8-X 1123468423 J * Matthew-1 ~mlong@grm-nx.grmims.com 1123468748 Q * goku Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123468899 P * Matthew-1 1123469035 J * Matthew-1 ~mlong@grm-nx.grmims.com 1123469514 P * Matthew-1 1123470077 J * Matthew-1 ~mlong@grm-nx.grmims.com 1123474570 M * micah wow, 2.0! 1123475059 Q * Johnsie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123475075 J * Johnsie ~john@acs-24-154-53-210.zoominternet.net 1123478015 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1123480777 M * Pazzo hehe ... let's have a party ;-) 1123480880 Q * Waktugal Remote host closed the connection 1123480939 J * Waktugal ~Wellhest@cpe.atm4-0-1191200.0x50a6ca0e.hrnxx4.customer.tele.dk 1123482015 Q * Waktugal Remote host closed the connection 1123483262 J * Waktugal ~Wellhest@cpe.atm4-0-1191200.0x50a6ca0e.hrnxx4.customer.tele.dk 1123483628 Q * Waktugal Remote host closed the connection 1123483930 M * ray6 Bertl: aeh, no issue with xen3, just that I don't have a xen3 running so far so I can't test mein xen3 vserver kernel :) 1123484289 Q * bipsen_oO Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123485806 J * Waktugal ~Wellhest@cpe.atm4-0-1191200.0x50a6ca0e.hrnxx4.customer.tele.dk 1123485877 Q * Waktugal Remote host closed the connection 1123485923 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de 1123485926 M * case mhm 1123487816 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1123488907 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-171.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123488918 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123489443 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1123489451 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1123492498 T * services.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0, 1.2.10 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1123492586 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@195.6.99.19 1123493084 Q * erwan_taf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123493758 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1123493761 M * Bertl morning folks! 1123494057 M * DaPhreak lo Bertl :) 1123494068 M * Bertl hey DaPhreak! 1123494093 M * DaPhreak heh, as i see we're finally on 2.0 :) 1123494483 M * Bertl yep 1123494749 M * click omg. 1123494757 M * click any of you guys on freenode? 1123494771 M * TheSeer yes 1123494773 A * click thinks lilo is on crack 1123494777 M * TheSeer hehe 1123494784 M * click seen the new ident/hash-masking? 1123494789 M * TheSeer yep.. 1123494805 M * TheSeer i'm not sure i do understand the reason for it though ;> 1123494807 M * click *shrugs* breaking every rfc in existance 1123494812 M * click me neither 1123494875 M * TheSeer what do those chars mean anyway? 1123494880 M * TheSeer N == nobody? ;-P 1123494889 M * Bertl click: well, aren't they testing some new ircd? 1123494900 A * Aiken is wondering the same 1123494901 M * click I = ident 1123494903 M * TheSeer Bertl: freeenode is just one big ircd test ;> 1123494905 M * click N = No-Ident 1123494918 M * TheSeer ah.. 1123494933 M * click which are ~+-=^ in other ircd's 1123494937 M * TheSeer so i take it, the ~ wasn't good enough.. 1123494947 M * TheSeer yeah.. 1123495052 M * click and, then we have the host-expansions/masking... 1123495089 M * click click@wanna/have/slashes/in/his/vhost/because/it/looks/cool 1123495106 M * click that stuff is just ... 1123495124 M * click *shivers out of fear thinking of what they might come up with next* 1123495304 J * Doener ~doener@p54875CCC.dip.t-dialin.net 1123495316 M * Doener morning! 1123495335 M * Bertl morning Doener (without any markings :)! 1123495344 M * Doener *lol* 1123495360 Q * Doener` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123495383 M * Doener found another use for vservers... "cloned" my sisters system to finally be able to use distcc :) 1123495414 M * Bertl interesting ... 1123495499 M * Doener hm, the smartest thread hijack ever :) 1123495519 M * Bertl yeah, I really had to comment on that ... 1123495693 M * Bertl hmm, not bad, ~380 hits on freshmeat, 190 hits on the download page (within the last 12 hours) 1123495874 M * Doener nice 1123496002 J * alanhs ~icechat5@82.108.138.254 1123496020 M * Bertl welcome alanhs! 1123496104 M * alanhs Hello Bertl. Its been a while, as I haven't had any proplems with my versers lately - but I had a power failure last week and I cannot re-start any of them :-( 1123496133 M * Bertl hmm .. care to provide some details? 1123496197 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh (for example, via pastebin.com) 1123496287 M * alanhs Well - firstly I have seen the problem before and fixed them - but I cant figure out how - DUH!. Basically, I do a vserver xxx start - then vserver xxx status and I get back the 'not running' message so I cannot enter the server, oddly the ip addresses on the host will contain the ip of the 'non running' server. 1123496317 M * Bertl gentoo guests? 1123496324 M * alanhs Yep 1123496338 M * Bertl they write some 'running' info somewhere in /var/run/* 1123496339 M * alanhs and host 1123496360 M * Bertl if you had a power outage, those files will be wrongly there 1123496386 M * Bertl IIRC, this was fixed some time ago in the tools, but I guess you didn't update yet :) 1123496423 M * alanhs Yes I tried clearing the /var/run in the guest, but I still get the same result. 1123496454 M * anonymousc more /etc/vservers//scripts/pre-start 1123496469 M * anonymousc #!/bin/bash 1123496469 M * anonymousc rm -f /vservers//var/lib/init.d/started/* 1123496484 M * Bertl thing is, if you do a 'vserver start' and afterwards nothing is running, then the guest didn't start anything persistant ... 1123496510 M * Bertl ah, /var/lib/init.d/started it was then? 1123496522 M * anonymousc it is on gentoo 1123496531 A * Bertl is no gentoo person :) 1123496557 M * anonymousc you can clean it up the gentoo way if you like by chrooting into the vserver (while its not running) and 'zapping' the services 1123496597 M * anonymousc er - substitute the vserver name in those paths listed above 1123496683 M * anonymousc the vserver won't start because the init scripts will exit rather than launching the programs in that context, 1123496750 M * Bertl yep, I wonder why they do not 'probe' for the service, but trust a simple file? 1123496837 M * anonymousc that dir is cleared on boot from memory (or is it shutdown - come to think of it maybe it used to be on tmpfs). its just the gentoo way i suppose. 1123496879 M * Bertl yeah, but a service might easily fail at some point ... just think of mysql dumping core :) 1123496901 M * Bertl if you then issue a start, probably nothing happens, no? 1123496905 M * anonymousc /etc/init.d/mysql zap && /etc/init.d/mysql start 1123496918 M * anonymousc thats right 1123496947 M * Bertl so why rely on a single file only, not even with a pid inside? 1123496949 M * anonymousc if something is likely to bomb out then I tend to run it under daemontools anyway 1123496981 M * anonymousc *shrug* pid files are used for identifying the process to kill off usually. 1123496995 M * anonymousc in gentoo init scripts that is 1123497011 M * Bertl yeah, but pid not existing, is a good indication for service not running, no? 1123497043 M * alanhs Bertl - the rm -f /vservers//var/lib/init.d/started/* sugestion worked - thanks 1123497059 M * Bertl excellent! thanks to anonymousc! 1123497085 J * hetche ~hetche@dsl-58-6-34-71.nsw.westnet.com.au 1123497100 M * Bertl welcome hetche! 1123497104 M * anonymousc i use that as a pre-start script with all gentoo vservers - it won't run unless the 'vserver start' command does, so you may as well clean it out 1123497106 M * hetche hi bert 1123497108 M * hetche ;) 1123497122 M * alanhs Oh - Thanks anonymousc 1123497161 M * hetche hey bert do you know if anyone has made some startup/shutdown scripts for debian? 1123497188 M * Bertl I'd suspect the debian maintainers have done something like that? 1123497205 M * Bertl btw, what is wrong with the mainline util-vserver runlevel scripts? 1123497289 M * hetche do you mean typing like vserver blah start? 1123497314 M * hetche i guess i just need to put it in initd is all heh 1123497323 M * Bertl hmm, I thought you were referring to auto-startup on host boot? 1123497330 M * hetche yeah thats what i mean 1123497339 M * hetche there is some scripts in util for vserver already? 1123497340 M * Bertl well, there are scripts for that 1123497359 M * Bertl (included in util-vserver) 1123497373 M * hetche ah k i better check that out brb 1123497388 M * Bertl rpm -ql util-vserver-sysv 1123497388 M * Bertl /etc/rc.d/init.d/vprocunhide 1123497388 M * Bertl /etc/rc.d/init.d/vservers-default 1123497410 M * Bertl the first one will do the proc unhiding, the second one the 'default' startup 1123497442 M * Bertl (it requires the guests to be 'marked' for automatic startup) 1123497461 M * hetche and shutting down something will send the vserver blah stop 1123497461 M * hetche ? 1123497474 M * Bertl it is supposed to do so ... 1123497509 M * hetche k hmn 1123497519 M * hetche where do i set what the default vservers are? 1123497549 M * Bertl from the flowerpage: 1123497553 M * Bertl * mark 1123497553 M * Bertl This file is used to mark group of vservers which shall be started/stopped together by the initscript. Content is a simple string like 'default'. 1123497586 M * hetche man that flowerpage needs to change background lol 1123497613 M * Bertl why, I like the white background with the tree ... 1123497636 M * hetche white background with tree? 1123497651 M * hetche i have some background all weird colours with marijuana leaves heh 1123497654 M * Bertl one of the many stylesheets ... 1123497769 M * hetche is it your page?:) 1123497779 M * Bertl no, it's enricos page ... 1123497829 M * Bertl a detail for the record, because probably nobody thought about it/figured yet: 1123497848 M * Bertl you can have different startup runlevel scripts for different runlevels 1123497863 M * Bertl each one starting/stopping a different set of guests 1123498047 M * Bertl lol: http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/page.pl?tid=13522&pagetype=company 1123498553 M * hetche curious bert when i stop a vserver that shares the same ip as the host machine my ssh session drops out and wont reconnect even though the sshd is running on the host machine 1123498584 M * hetche is that normal? 1123498590 M * Bertl propably the interface was taken down ... 1123498608 M * Bertl depends on your config, but I'd guess it's somewhat expected 1123498663 M * hetche i thought the vservers just used the interface though not stop/started it? 1123498676 M * Bertl as I said, depends on the config ... 1123498696 M * hetche the /etc/vservers config? 1123498696 M * Bertl the interface config basically comes in three (actually four) flavors 1123498758 M * Bertl --interface 10.0.0.1 (only ip is used, no device/alias) 1123498821 M * Bertl --interface eth0:10.0.0.2 (ip address for eth0) 1123498840 M * Bertl --interface hansi=eth0:10.0.0.3 (ip alias for eth0) 1123498874 M * Bertl the first one will create a config with: .../interface/0/{nodev,ip} 1123498887 M * Bertl which will never create or remove the ip on the host 1123498911 M * Bertl the second one will create an ip entry on device eth0 at startup, and remove it on shutdow 1123498930 M * Bertl (files are .../interface/0/{dev,ip,prefix,mask) 1123498960 M * Bertl and the third one will create an alias with the ip on interface eth0 1123498975 M * Bertl (i.e. it will show up with old tools like ifconfig) 1123499273 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later ... 1123499279 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1123501922 J * Blogmeister ~Blogmeist@site.lycos.de 1123502069 M * nokoya Bertl_oO, last time u said vs can have how many ip ? 1123502072 M * nokoya I forgot 1123502081 M * Doener 15/16 1123502091 M * nokoya max ? 1123502116 M * Doener yep 1123502122 M * nokoya i c 1123502122 M * nokoya thanks 1123502432 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1123502437 P * jsambrook 1123502805 Q * alanhs Quit: Not that there is anything wrong with that 1123503344 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1123503748 Q * renihs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123504511 Q * brc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123507702 P * Blogmeister 1123507928 N * cereal pg|cereal 1123508908 J * brc bruce@200165193033.user.veloxzone.com.br 1123512261 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1123512318 M * shuri Congratulation! 1123512320 M * shuri :) 1123512601 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123512994 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123513405 J * squirel ~squirel@osiris.physics.auth.gr 1123513523 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1123513557 M * Bertl evening folks! 1123513594 M * Bertl welcome squirel! 1123513653 M * squirel greetings Bertl 1123513678 M * squirel actually i was searching the official channel for help about vservers... 1123513680 M * shuri hello Bertl 1123513697 M * Vudumen_ hi Bertl :) 1123513703 M * Bertl squirel: you found it! 1123513704 N * Vudumen_ Vudumen 1123513717 M * Johnsie Man, it's morning here and I just woke up and it's evening for Bertl. 1123513724 M * squirel has anyone tried openafs on vserver? 1123513740 M * Johnsie squirel: Not I. 1123513761 M * squirel i can't get the afs module loaded.... 1123513774 M * Bertl what is openafs? 1123513783 M * squirel i get "Unknown symbol vx_rmap_pid" 1123513791 M * squirel Bertl, it is a distributed filesystem 1123513823 M * Bertl ah, interesting, add a line to the C file (which contains this symbol) like this: 1123513848 M * Bertl #include 1123513866 M * squirel hm... i'll try it.. 1123513918 Q * shuri Quit: Leaving 1123513960 M * squirel and something more... what is the safest way to have a common dir on both host system and vservers 1123513973 M * Bertl --bind mounts 1123513976 M * squirel currently i use nfs server and nfs mount on the host system 1123514020 M * squirel i've read in lists that --bind some times lose mountpoints 1123514195 M * squirel interesting... "vx_rmap_pid" string does'nt contained anywhere in the source of openafs 1123514242 M * Bertl that's expected, but when you build it, you get a warning about that 1123514266 M * Bertl check which C file gives the warning, then add the include line there 1123514315 M * Bertl but I'm pretty sure although it will work then, it will not work as expected (because if the filesystem ants to know about processes, it's probably going to break inside a guest) 1123514321 M * squirel i see. 1123514373 M * Bertl but we can look into it .. does the openafs only exist as module? or are there kernel patches available too? 1123514388 M * squirel module only 1123514393 M * Bertl more important, can it be built into the kernel (monolithic?) 1123514451 M * Bertl some version of andrew? filesystem was in the kernel some time ago, no? 1123514622 M * squirel it is andrew 1123514630 M * squirel but an other distribution of it 1123514658 M * squirel andrew file system support in kernel 2.6 has only read access to afs servers 1123514681 M * Bertl because the first step to work on a distributed FS (integration into linux-vserver) would be to _integrate_ it completely into the kernel ... 1123514745 M * squirel this vx_rmap_pid symbol is something that was in kernel and is moved by vserver patches? 1123514766 M * Bertl no, it's something which aids virtualization ... 1123514788 M * Bertl it reverse maps the pid string seen in userspace) 1123514850 M * squirel i see. 1123515047 M * squirel i found the .C file 1123515063 M * squirel i patched it and waiting it to be compiled... 1123515194 M * squirel this produced more errors... 1123515210 M * Bertl like? 1123515269 M * squirel hmm i don't know anything about C to translate them 1123515272 M * squirel :) 1123515340 M * squirel wait to copy paste a part of them 1123515471 M * squirel CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/openafs-kernel-1.3.86/work/openafs-1.3.86/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.6.11.6-grsec-vs1.9.5-MP/rx_knet.o 1123515471 M * squirel In file included from /var/tmp/portage/openafs-kernel-1.3.86/work/openafs-1.3.86/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.6.11.6-grsec-vs1.9.5-MP/rx_knet.c:15: 1123515471 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h: In function `vx_new_utsname': 1123515471 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:13: error: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) 1123515472 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:13: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 1123515475 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:13: error: for each function it appears in.) 1123515476 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:15: error: `system_utsname' undeclared (first use in this function) 1123515493 M * squirel oops.. 1123515497 M * squirel i think i found it.. 1123515659 M * squirel i found nothing... 1123515702 M * squirel CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/openafs-kernel-1.3.86/work/openafs-1.3.86/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.6.11.6-grsec-vs1.9.5-MP/rx_knet.o 1123515702 M * squirel In file included from /var/tmp/portage/openafs-kernel-1.3.86/work/openafs-1.3.86/src/libafs/MODLOAD-2.6.11.6-grsec-vs1.9.5-MP/rx_knet.c:15: 1123515702 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h: In function `vx_new_utsname': 1123515702 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:13: error: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) 1123515703 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:13: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 1123515703 M * Bertl well, as I said, it is not likely to work if it uses such essential kernel stuff (which is now virtualized) 1123515707 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:13: error: for each function it appears in.) 1123515709 M * squirel include/linux/vs_cvirt.h:15: error: `system_utsname' undeclared (first use in this function) 1123515743 M * squirel the funny think is that i found at google logs from this channel 1123515754 M * Bertl yeah, funny? :) 1123515767 M * squirel where someone was asking how to mount afs in vservers 1123515774 M * squirel when it is mount it in the host 1123515782 M * squirel and the answer was --bind 1123515798 M * Bertl hehe, well, probably won't work either ... 1123515810 M * squirel but he didn't even mention how he got afs working in the host... 1123515827 M * Bertl but as I said, if you (or the afs developers) want to spend some time on that, I'm always willing to help ... 1123515857 M * Bertl for me, the first step would be to make a 'kernel' patch which brings the kernel afs up-to-date with the openafs sources ... 1123515920 M * squirel that would be interesting but i can't see how i can help you... 1123515934 M * squirel as i said i don't know anything about C 1123515950 M * squirel (i only develop in visual basic :PPP) 1123516092 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1123516136 M * shuri 2.6.12.4-vs2.0 #1 Mon Aug 8 11:43:12 EDT 2005 i686 :) 1123516145 M * Bertl shuri: congrats! 1123516164 M * shuri no Bertl COngratuation!!! 1123516176 M * shuri congratulation 1123516182 M * Bertl squirel: for a start you can bug the developers to mainline it somehow .. (or at least provide some patches _against_ the kernel) 1123516186 M * Bertl shuri: tx 1123516377 M * Bertl squirel: once there is a patch against mainline, it's probably easy to adapt it to linux-vserver, and then after that, with a lot of testing (partially on your side) we could make it work too ... 1123516414 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner now ... back later ... 1123516420 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1123516588 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1123516603 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@85.10.237.60 1123517386 J * _ag_ ag@caladan.roxor.cx 1123518554 Q * _ag_ Quit: BBL 1123518985 M * Matthew-1 I have an issue with my vservers not able to stop. 1123519006 M * Matthew-1 it just hangs on killall 1123519066 M * Matthew-1 i have to force kill it with "vservers $GUESTNAME exec reboot -f 1123519173 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1123519340 M * Matthew-1 i'm on the latest version 2.0 with the latest tools util-vserver-0.30.208 1123519350 M * daniel_hozac sounds like a guest problem. 1123519359 M * Matthew-1 i'm running centos4.1 1123519377 M * daniel_hozac and minilogd is the left over process? 1123519429 M * Matthew-1 how would i fix it 1123519441 M * daniel_hozac start syslog. 1123519475 M * Matthew-1 you mean stop 1123519482 M * Matthew-1 ? 1123519546 Q * atsab Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123519602 M * Matthew-1 because syslogd is already running 1123519803 M * Matthew-1 do i need minilogd running? 1123519817 M * Matthew-1 how do i stop it from starting 1123519826 M * Matthew-1 can i? 1123519882 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1123519960 M * daniel_hozac minilogd shouldn't start if syslog is running. 1123519989 M * Matthew-1 syslogd is started 1123520055 M * Matthew-1 but it still trys to stop minilogd on shutdown 1123520114 M * daniel_hozac it does? i thought the problem was that it didn't try to stop it. 1123520177 M * Matthew-1 syslogd is started but when i shutdown it doesn't shutdown minilogd for some reason 1123520203 M * Matthew-1 root 8220 1 0 10:47 ? 00:00:00 minilogd 1123520222 M * Matthew-1 if i kill it then the vserver does stop 1123520227 M * daniel_hozac because minilogd isn't really a service, it's more of a replacement syslog. 1123520243 M * daniel_hozac you might want to add an actual killall script to the vserver. 1123520296 M * Matthew-1 Shutting down kernel logger: [FAILED] 1123520338 M * Matthew-1 it is 1123520347 M * Matthew-1 already there 1123520452 M * daniel_hozac at least Fedora's killall script isn't an actual killall script. 1123520476 M * daniel_hozac it just checks /var/lock/subsys for running services and runs stop. 1123520542 M * daniel_hozac processes without such files will thus not be killed. 1123520642 M * TheSeer the rest is killed in the halt script 1123520662 M * daniel_hozac which shouldn't be run in a vserver ;) 1123520667 M * TheSeer i know 1123520669 M * TheSeer ;) 1123520675 M * TheSeer i just wanted to point it out :) 1123520726 M * Matthew-1 so should i just write a scritped that has killalll minilogd in it? 1123520801 M * daniel_hozac killall5 -TERM; sleep 5; killall5 -KILL would be the more generic version. 1123520840 M * daniel_hozac (or maybe killall5 doesn't accept signal names...) 1123521384 M * TheSeer it does 1123521396 M * TheSeer at least the fedora halt script usess killall5 -15 1123521418 M * daniel_hozac right, but i'm not sure -TERM is equivalent. 1123521438 M * TheSeer oh.. NAMES ;> 1123521455 A * TheSeer makes a mental note: READ before answering 1123521688 Q * monrad Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123522299 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1123522857 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host247.201-252-52.telecom.net.ar 1123522977 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1123523192 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1123523428 Q * monrad Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123523500 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123524050 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1123526231 M * Hollow Bertl_oO: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/62592 1123527902 M * daniel_hozac cool! 1123527972 M * shuri Translation plz 1123527972 M * shuri lol 1123527991 M * daniel_hozac babelfish ;) 1123528309 M * ray6 Hollow: oh, vserver has been heised :) 1123528319 M * Hollow yeah ;) 1123529003 Q * squirel Quit: Leaving 1123529398 M * Hollow and it'll be on planet gentoo soon ;) 1123529968 Q * shuri Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123530128 Q * monrad Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123530745 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1123531260 A * DaPhreak stabs Hollow :P 1123531737 M * Matthew-1 how would i make a suse9.3 vserver? 1123531795 M * Matthew-1 is it possible? 1123531819 M * Matthew-1 or is this a stupid question for IRC? 1123532150 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-5-17.dclient.hispeed.ch 1123532623 Q * monrad Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123533243 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1123534118 Q * mugwump Remote host closed the connection 1123534124 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1123534496 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.254.38.11 1123535305 J * erwan__taf ~erwan@81.254.38.12 1123535369 Q * erwan_taf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123535538 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1123535552 M * Bertl evening folks! 1123535566 M * Bertl Hollow: yeah, thanks, I know :) 1123535587 M * Bertl Matthew-1: what do you mean by Suse9.3 vserver? 1123535901 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123536774 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1123536853 M * Matthew-1 i mean a vserver based on either sles9 or suse9.3 1123536860 M * Matthew-1 running as a guest 1123536871 M * Matthew-1 on top of centos 4 host 1123536925 M * Bertl well, probably the easiest way, without any deeper knowledge about suse or how linux-vserver build works ... 1123536939 M * Bertl I'd suggest to make a minimal install to some harddisk partition 1123536959 M * Bertl then after that, try to clean up hardware related stuff inside the installation (optional) 1123536991 M * Bertl and copy that over to your vserver host (carefully replacing the /dev with a secure version from a skeleton build) 1123537015 M * mugwump hey Bertl, any comment re: Ola's e-mail? 1123537029 M * Bertl mugwump: hey Sam! which one? *G* 1123537050 M * mugwump er, recent off-list one to Enrico, You and me 1123537061 J * ntrs ~ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123537097 M * Bertl 20050807102655.GA8068@opalsys.net ? 1123537119 M * mugwump er, yep :) 1123537164 M * mugwump has Enrico been active much recently? I saw two bursts of activity when I copied over the changes to OpenFoundry 1123537192 M * Bertl hmm ... well, as nobody seems to make 'releases' from the SVN tree, and enrico does still make releases ... I'm not sure what to say ... 1123537211 P * kevinp Leaving 1123537249 M * Bertl personally I'd prefer some centralized but open development ... but it looks more like util-vserver will soon get a competitor based on the vserver library ... 1123537255 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-034.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123537274 M * mugwump yeah, I was thinking of writing an XS wrapper for that to do a Perl-based userland 1123537280 M * Bertl and probably there will be _another_ config file format ... of course, incompatible to all others :) 1123537288 M * mugwump YAML! :) 1123537364 M * Bertl but I don't see my purpose in telling folks what to do in userland ... 1123537387 M * Bertl currently I'm using a slightly patched 0.30.208 version for all tests ... 1123537411 M * Bertl if I get around, I'll look into the SVN differences and see what patches we can add from there ... 1123537430 M * Bertl (if there are any patches except the ones I submitted :) 1123537437 M * mugwump well, feel free to send your patches to trunk on openfoundry. 1123537452 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/patch-0.30.208-fix01.diff.bz2 1123537533 M * Bertl if you prefer them splitted by topic, you can use: 1123537559 M * mugwump well, those apply cleanly to trunk FWIW 1123537590 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/UTIL-VSERVER/delta-0.30.208-kheaders.diff 1123537595 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/UTIL-VSERVER/delta-0.30.208-shiny6.diff 1123537608 M * Bertl I expect them to apply cleanly ... 1123537625 M * Bertl maybe somebody (you?) should do a release for testing now and then? 1123537666 M * Bertl I'm willing to test some kind of release from there and also to submit bug reports ... 1123537689 M * Bertl but I'm not really interested in coding/fixing the userspace tools ... 1123537766 M * mugwump hmm, I wonder if "build-all" is the script enrico uses to make a release 1123537839 M * Bertl no idea, I didn't even manage to 'build' the cvs version properly ... (didn' 1123537849 M * Bertl t spend much time on it, though ...) 1123537878 M * Bertl anyway, moving out now ... back in an hour or so ... 1123537889 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1123538160 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1123538397 Q * erwan__taf Remote host closed the connection 1123539367 P * click [IRSSI] 1123539560 Q * aba Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123542291 J * click click@dsl-static-122-208.aal.tiscali.no 1123542338 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1123542508 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1123542524 M * Bertl back now ... 1123542576 M * Doener wb Bertl 1123542774 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1123542877 M * Bertl tx Doener! how is life? 1123543176 M * Doener i'm getting annoyed of searching for furniture... 1123543195 M * Doener at least we now got a bed :) ... well, in six weeks... 1123543278 M * Bertl look on the bright side, some centuries ago, folks had to carve it out of wood :) 1123543298 M * Doener heh :) 1123543369 M * Bertl so I take it, that the flat search was successful, and you found something at a proper 'flat-rate' :) 1123543426 M * Doener yep... and as i know german telecoms, i'll probably won't have internet access the first few weeks :( 1123543482 M * Bertl you mean years, no? 1123543522 M * Doener lalala... i can't hear you... don't destroy my dreams, "weeks" sounds sooo nice ;) 1123543734 M * Bertl oh, sorry, hmm .. maybe the toothfairy will bring you one in the first week :) 1123543825 M * Doener :) 1123543918 A * Aiken suggests dialup then ducks 1123543958 M * Bertl Aiken: I am on dialup ... nothing can really shock me ... 1123544027 M * Aiken not what I expected 1123544131 M * Aiken a friend uses solaris at work and is considering moving from linux to solaris at home, he likes solaris 1123544152 M * Aiken recently were talking about zones and vserver and what they get used for 1123544172 M * Aiken I am wondering what uses vserver is being put to 1123544178 M * Doener dialup would cause immediate bankruptcy for me ;) 1123544238 M * Bertl yeah, well, I would prefer something different too ... 1123544259 M * Bertl Aiken: http://linux-vserver.org/Linux-VServer-Paper-08 1123544326 M * Doener Bertl: what's the problem at your location? thought vienna should have some sufficient telephone infrastructure for dsl lines 1123544359 M * Bertl Vienna yes, but the vicinity ... no, at both locations, no chance for ADSL ... maybe wavenet soon ... 1123544375 M * Aiken too far from an exchange? 1123544396 M * Bertl that and/or too bad lines and/or just no support 1123544451 M * Bertl they do not even have dslams in the exchanges here :/ 1123544459 M * Aiken the amount of wire from me to the exchange is abt twice the distance limit 1123544499 M * Aiken the exchange in our area has been setup for dsl but most people are close enough 1123544603 M * Aiken looking at the vserver page a lot of what I see is hosting 1123544604 M * Bertl yes, hosting is probably one of the major fields of application, followed by security stuff ... 1123544604 M * Aiken reason I am now using vserver is it saves on buy more hardware 1123544616 M * Aiken this household already has 7 computers for 3 people 1123544656 M * Bertl hmm, that just makes 2 and 1/3 for each ... not that many ... 1123544679 M * Bertl most families have more mobiles per person .... 1123544684 M * Aiken plus 5 vservers 1123544697 M * Aiken here 3 people - 3 mobiles 1123544795 Q * lilo Quit: leaving 1123545316 M * Johnsie hahaha 1123545371 M * Bertl hi Johnsie! hmm? 1123545482 M * Aiken I recognize one of the isp on the VServer+Hosting hosting page 1123545522 M * Bertl Aiken: is that good or bad? 1123545525 M * Johnsie I was laughing at how the average household has a cellular telephone and a vserver. 1123545556 M * Johnsie What can I say? I'm easily amused. 1123545567 M * Bertl heh, well, you know 'Day of the Tentacle?' 1123545573 M * Aiken Bertl good 1123545574 M * Johnsie I'm afraid not. 1123545580 M * Aiken TPG using vserver for their games 1123545599 M * Aiken gives me an idea for the next bbq/gamming session I hold here