1123200753 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1123202763 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1123203386 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host83.201-252-29.telecom.net.ar 1123204198 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1123206499 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1123214760 Q * Aiken jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * hetche jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * ntrs jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * Loki|muh jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * brc jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * nokoya jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * gregster jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * Medivh jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * nox jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * click jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * atsab jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * DaCa-no jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * Greek0 jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * pusling jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214760 Q * matti jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1123214842 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-211.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123214842 J * hetche ~lala@dsl-58-6-34-71.nsw.westnet.com.au 1123214842 J * ntrs ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123214842 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1123214842 J * Greek0 ~greek0@81.189.246.175 1123214842 J * brc bruce@200141118172.user.veloxzone.com.br 1123214842 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1123214842 J * pusling ~pusling@195.215.29.124 1123214842 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123214842 J * DaCa-no ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1123214842 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt 1123214842 J * click click@dsl-static-122-208.aal.tiscali.no 1123214842 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1123214842 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1123214842 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de 1123215288 M * hetche has anyone here ran open-xchange from a vserver? i am having some problems sessiond wants to bind to localhost cant see any config option to change that? 1123217164 Q * hetche Quit: ircN 7.26a + 7.0 for mIRC (2001/04/07 02.00) 1123217237 J * hetche ~hetche@dsl-58-6-34-71.nsw.westnet.com.au 1123219668 M * hetche how do i make a copy of an existing vserver to launch that also? 1123220762 M * micah hetche: thats easy 1123220791 M * micah cp -a /vservers//* /vservers/ 1123220801 M * micah but actually, it is better to do this first: 1123220825 M * micah vserver build -m skeleton --hostname --interface eth0:whatever 1123220828 M * micah then do the cp -a 1123220834 M * micah then start up the new vserver! 1123221253 M * hetche cool 1123222398 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1123223126 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1123223139 M * Bertl morning folks! 1123223224 M * Bertl hetche: regarding the 'bind to localhost', that will work quite fine, but you should change 'localhost' in /etc/hosts to the first IP of the guest ... because that will be what a binding to 127.0.0.1 will get ... 1123223319 M * hetche 192.168.1.2 localhost localhost localhost 1123223319 M * hetche 192.168.1.2 bob.utbox.net bob.utbox.net bob.utbox.net 1123223323 M * hetche bert like that in hosts file? 1123223328 M * Bertl yep 1123223353 M * hetche good idea lol pretty dumb not to think of that lol 1123223362 M * hetche i spent about 30mins messing in all the config files finding the places to change hehe 1123223392 M * Bertl well, some apps (only a real minority) still hardcode 127.0.0.1 somewhere ... 1123223417 M * Bertl those will work fine as long as they do not require the other end to be on 127.0.0.1 too ... 1123223444 M * hetche yea 1123223456 M * hetche could you somehow add a route from 127.0.0.1 to 192.168.xx anyway? 1123223470 M * hetche oh networking is on host only right 1123223576 M * Bertl for now, yes 1123226817 Q * xf_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123228008 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123228315 M * hetche arg just deleted /etc/vservers rather then /etc/vservers/host 1123228317 M * hetche lol 1123228334 M * hetche if i want to get that dir back do i need to reinstall the whole thing or which bit just configure vserver-util? 1123228365 M * hetche got it no worries heh 1123228366 M * hetche bbl 1123228382 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123228394 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1123228466 M * Bertl morning prae! 1123228479 M * prae morning Bertl 1123228485 M * prae hi DaPhreak ! 1123228726 M * eyck morning all 1123228801 M * Bertl morning eyck! 1123229712 J * monrad ~monrad@195.97.130.53 1123230558 M * DaPhreak prae: you got super spy-glasses, eh ? (wrt knowing when i'm in :P) 1123230652 M * prae :) 1123230849 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-171.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123231177 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123231813 Q * ntrs_ oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * gregster oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * Medivh oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * nox oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * click oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * atsab oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * nokoya oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * brc oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * Loki|muh oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * DaCa-no oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * pusling oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * Greek0 oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * matti oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * janra oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * skceb oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * virtuoso oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * chand oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * flock oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231813 Q * derbien oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * FaUl oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * sid3windr oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * eyck oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * anonymousc oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * TheSeer oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * Hollow oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * ray6 oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * Pazzo oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * locksy oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * sladen oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * dsoul oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * BobR_oO oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * Bertl oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * neofutur oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * mcp oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * aba oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * hetche oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * mountie oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * lilo oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * mugwump oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * micah oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * duckx oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * stupidawy oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * tchan oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * SNy oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * revenger_ oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * Hunger oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * Aiken_ oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * albeiro oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231814 Q * DaPhreak oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1123231833 J * janra janra@paradox.homeip.net 1123231833 J * skceb skceb@bang-bang.feuer-frei.com 1123231833 J * Bertl ~herbert@212.16.62.52 1123231833 J * BobR_oO ~georg@212.16.62.52 1123231833 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1123231833 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1123231833 J * chand ~chand@staff.lycos.fr 1123231833 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1123231833 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1123231833 J * derbien ~derbien@whiterabbit.nbmc.de 1123231833 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl 1123231833 J * FaUl ~immo@hobbynuttenverzeichniss.de 1123231833 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1123231833 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1123231833 J * anonymousc ~anonymous@staff.internode.com.au 1123231833 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1123231833 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1123231833 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1123231833 J * ray6 ~ray@klon3.gcsc2.ray.net 1123231833 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1123231833 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1123231833 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1123231833 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123231833 J * stupidawy foo@198.77.239.131 1123231833 J * duckx ~Duck@mna75-1-81-57-39-234.fbx.proxad.net 1123231833 J * SNy a7c816ce0c@bmx-chemnitz.de 1123231833 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1123231833 J * aba ~aba@2001:a60:f006::2 1123231833 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1123231833 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123231833 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1123231833 J * hetche ~hetche@dsl-58-6-34-71.nsw.westnet.com.au 1123231833 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123231833 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1123231833 J * Greek0 ~greek0@81.189.246.175 1123231833 J * brc bruce@200141118172.user.veloxzone.com.br 1123231833 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1123231833 J * pusling ~pusling@195.215.29.124 1123231836 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1123231836 J * DaCa-no ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1123231836 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt 1123231836 J * click click@dsl-static-122-208.aal.tiscali.no 1123231836 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1123231836 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1123231836 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de 1123231836 T * services.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, 2.0-rc9, ngnet ng9.5 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1123231881 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1123231881 T * xenon.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, 2.0-rc9, ngnet ng9.5 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1123231889 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123231934 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-171.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123231934 J * albeiro ~albeiro@albeiro.usercloak.oftc.net 1123231934 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1123232061 J * lilo tor@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1123234569 J * tl ~et@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de 1123236645 M * Bertl welcome tl! 1123237040 M * DaPhreak morning Bertl :) 1123237071 M * Bertl hmm, yeah, morning DaPhreak! (again?) 1123237156 M * DaPhreak ah :) missed the previous one :) 1123237174 M * DaPhreak *hrm* weekend seems to be primetime ? 1123237292 J * Doener ~doener@p54876DDF.dip.t-dialin.net 1123237677 M * Bertl morning Doener! 1123237685 M * Doener morning Bertl! 1123237688 M * Bertl DaPhreak: yeah, either that or today ... :) 1123239244 M * sid3windr # vserver spidernet enter 1123239244 M * sid3windr WARNING: can not find configuration, assuming legacy method 1123239245 M * sid3windr No directory for this vserver: /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/spidernet 1123239253 M * sid3windr I can't enter it anymore - what's wrong? :( 1123239278 M * sid3windr (luckily I can ssh to it ;) 1123239279 M * Bertl looks like you are missing the main/master dir or the guest ... 1123239299 M * sid3windr well it's running 1123239305 M * Bertl check what ls -la /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase 1123239307 M * sid3windr I don't have any /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase 1123239316 M * eyck yeah, I know this, this is another brainded idea called 'new style configuration' 1123239330 M * Bertl sid3windr: where did you lose it? 1123239333 M * eyck create symlink pointing to your vserver base dir 1123239395 M * sid3windr Bertl: I have no clue, I guess *censored* is to blame :p 1123239425 M * sid3windr okay, it works again :] 1123239445 M * Bertl hmm, what filesystem do you use for /etc ? 1123239557 P * tl 1123240015 M * sid3windr ihmm 1123240023 M * sid3windr seems I left my system in the middle of an apt-get upgrade 1123240031 M * sid3windr and util-vserver was still pending update *whistle* 1123240041 M * sid3windr it's ext3 for everything btw :) 1123240042 M * Bertl i.c. 1123240049 M * sid3windr I dunno if it's related though 1123240060 M * sid3windr I don't see why it would remove the symlink pre-install and put it back postinstall :p 1123240421 J * ntrs ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123240421 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123240598 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1123241018 P * erwan_taf Leaving 1123243209 J * itris ~itris@office.intouch.net 1123243591 M * Bertl welcome itris! 1123243599 M * itris thanks bertl 1123243626 M * itris I'm having tremendous problems with my vservers; keeping them up and running is a fulltime job 1123243633 M * itris seems like they go down on just about anything 1123243637 M * itris anyone else having those kind of problems? 1123243648 M * Bertl guess not, sounds strange, btw ... 1123243654 M * hetche mine works! 1123243657 M * hetche !! 1123243665 M * Bertl itris: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1123243668 M * itris mine work... if I don't stress the system 1123243691 M * Bertl (could you give that a spin on the host, and upload the output somewhere, e.g. pastebin.com?) 1123243716 M * itris sure, I'll have a look at the code and run it if it's safe ;) 1123243727 M * Bertl of course! 1123243855 M * itris it's out there 1123243862 M * itris (no errors, everything succeeded) 1123243910 M * Bertl hmm, older kernel and tools ... but looks good so far ... 1123243934 M * Bertl so what happens? (try to describe it somewhat) 1123243960 M * itris right, if I let the host run for days without running any vservers on it, everything's ok 1123243971 M * itris running vservers that don't do anything (just idle), everything's ok for days 1123244013 M * itris but when the vservers start to put some load on the system, they die. not the vservers, but the entire host crashes. this is usuallt within 24 hours, sometimes it takes 3 days 1123244036 M * Bertl so you get a kernel oops/panic? 1123244062 M * itris when I hook up a screen, I get no output\ 1123244083 M * Bertl what about serial console? 1123244125 M * itris I have one hooked up but haven't gotten around to getting it to work yet. which I will ofcourse, I want this problem solved more than anyone 1123244130 M * itris (I know, not very helpfull) 1123244146 M * Bertl well, should be easy with minicom ... 1123244161 M * Bertl btw, do you use the grsec functionality? 1123244217 M * itris I'm not sure, that part is being done by a collegue who's on holiday atm. you think it could be a player in the cause for this? 1123244255 M * Bertl sure, the grsec patch for vserver is not as well tested ... 1123244278 M * Bertl also the 2.6.11 kernels had some issues (under certain circumstances) 1123244308 M * Bertl what filesystems do you use, and how many guests are on the system? do you use himem? how much memory has the box? 1123244347 M * itris 4 gig of mem, split in a 1 to 3, ext2 and ext3, 2 or 3 guests usually 1123244441 M * Bertl did you stress test the machine (host) or does it happen on several hosts? 1123244461 M * itris it happens on all our machines 1123244880 M * Bertl okay, then I'd suggest to update to 2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9 and see if the issue goes away ... 1123245211 M * itris will do :) 1123245219 M * itris tnx 1123245281 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving 1123245351 M * Bertl itris: yw! 1123245669 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1123245675 P * jsambrook 1123245895 M * sid3windr smells like hardware trouble 1123245922 M * itris spread out over 40 servers, all identical problems? 1123245938 M * itris doubt it 1123246000 M * Bertl as you observe it on several hosts, I'd suspect a grsec or 2.6.11 kernel issue ... 1123246017 M * itris strange thing is, we have a few 2.4 kernels in there, and they're showing the same problem 1123246051 M * Bertl now it's getting really weird :) 1123246098 M * Bertl because 2.4/1.2.x and 2.6/2.0 do not really share any code ... 1123246153 M * Bertl of course if all your machines are of the same type, then this would actually point into the hardware direction again ... 1123246182 M * Bertl i.e. hardware component, which, under heavy load, kills the system 1123246210 M * itris there are 2 different hardware platforms, both showing the same problems 1123246277 M * Bertl background radiation? power surges? 1123246814 M * eyck new style..? 1123246858 M * eyck common baby, give in to new style... 1123246925 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123247006 M * Bertl okay, I'm off for now .. back later ... 1123247020 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1123247058 M * eyck oh well 1123247238 J * aaron_t ~aaron@aaron.mmi.net 1123247282 M * aaron_t the docs for ultramonkey say the stable sarge kernel has everything i need, yet when installing the package, it says several times that "Kernel does not support IPVS" 1123247282 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123247362 M * aaron_t i built my own 2.4.26 and 2.6.9 vserver kernels for woody before, but i'd like to know what the deal is here with sarge... avoidign a custom kernel would suit my mood a lot better :) 1123247398 M * eyck hmm, AFAIK customs kernels are recommended for debian, 1123247480 M * aaron_t well, that doesn't bother me a whole lot, but the index page clearly says "However, the 2.4.27 kernel for Sarge provides all of the capabilities that are required for Ultra Monkey, so a customised kernel is no longer required." 1123247529 M * aaron_t maybe i'll hit their mailing list 1123247603 M * eyck you know #vserver has nothing to do with with IPVS? 1123247689 M * aaron_t heh, no, i didn't :) must've followed a bad link 1123247761 M * aaron_t then thanks for the help anyways :) 1123247772 P * aaron_t Leaving 1123248010 J * ntrs ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123248010 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1123250941 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123251246 J * revenger4 ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123251334 Q * revenger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123251442 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123251924 J * MrX freebsd@219.95.14.230 1123252020 P * itris 1123252225 J * enriq ~enriq@pc13.centru-sediu.s-net.ro 1123252272 N * enriq spaciatore 1123252272 Q * spaciatore Quit: 1123252504 M * Hollow hey folks 1123254874 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1123256123 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1123256514 Q * revenger4 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123256567 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123256598 J * ntrs ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123256932 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1123257941 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1123258337 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123259852 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1123261651 J * Johnsie ~john@acs-24-154-53-210.zoominternet.net 1123262016 M * Johnsie Hello. :) 1123262067 M * stefani vserver wiki. can i edit? 1123262131 A * Johnsie shrugs. 1123262152 M * stefani i have an edit to make on wiki. 1123262360 M * micah stefani: yes you can edit :) 1123262398 M * Johnsie Say, is anyone here running the Gentoo VServer setup? 1123262430 M * Johnsie I've been working on a system for days, even Googling around to find out what this "is_vserver_guest" garbage is and I have no idea. 1123262454 M * Johnsie I updated a VPS using 'emerge -uD world' and once I stop it, it spits out filesystem errors and everything else. 1123262459 M * Johnsie In fact, it won't even start now. 1123262541 M * Johnsie I'm not sure 1.) what the problem even is, or 2.) where to start looking. 1123262597 Q * DaCa-no Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123264571 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1123267987 M * Hollow Johnsie: http://dev.gentoo.org/~hollow/vserver and http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vserver-howto.xml 1123268053 M * Hollow if you'd just typed "gentoo vserver" into google you can't have missed it.. ;) 1123269148 Q * Johnsie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1123269342 J * DaCa-no ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1123271790 J * John ~john@acs-24-154-53-210.zoominternet.net 1123271962 M * John 1123268004 * Johnsie: http://dev.gentoo.org/~hollow/vserver and http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vserver-howto.xml 1123271962 M * John 1123268070 * if you'd just typed "gentoo vserver" into google you can't have missed it.. ;) 1123271966 M * John I was disconnected. 1123271969 M * John Power outage. 1123271981 M * John So, basically, from what I gather, I have to tear down and rebuild each VPS? 1123272233 M * John And I might note, I was searching Google for "is_vserver_guest" trying to figure out to what it belongs and means. 1123275471 Q * Pazzo Quit: ... 1123279174 M * sid3windr well I never heard of it ;) 1123279189 M * sid3windr all I know is gentoo has a vserver baselayout 1123281682 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-025.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1123284741 M * Bertl_oO night folks ... 1123284747 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1123285884 Q * dsoul Quit: Changing server