1122859198 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1122866616 J * Alecsandro ~ale@200.189.53.10 1122866642 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-049.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1122866965 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122867105 N * Aiken_ Aiken 1122868412 J * anonymousc ~anonymous@staff.internode.com.au 1122868985 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-049.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1122869090 Q * Aiken jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * Alecsandro jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * mcp jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * DaCa-no jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * atsab jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * nokoya jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * click jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * ntrs jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * gregster jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * Medivh jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869090 Q * nox jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1122869176 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1122869176 J * Alecsandro ~ale@200.189.53.10 1122869176 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1122869176 J * DaCa-no ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1122869176 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt 1122869176 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1122869176 J * click click@dsl-static-122-208.aal.tiscali.no 1122869176 J * ntrs ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1122869176 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1122869176 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1122869176 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de 1122869316 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122870999 Q * lilo Quit: 1122871097 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1122871264 Q * lilo Quit: 1122871283 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1122874520 J * ntrs__ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1122874520 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1122876911 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122877234 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-183.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1122881520 M * Hollow morning 1122881539 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1122881547 M * Hollow hey Bertl 1122881553 M * Bertl morning folks! 1122881557 M * Bertl morning Hollow! 1122881680 M * dsoul morning :) 1122881880 M * Bertl hey dsoul! 1122882226 M * bipsen It's possible to execute RPM and apt-* commands for a given vserver using the vserver command.... but how about yum ?? Isn't it supported in that way ? 1122882228 M * DaPhreak lo Bertl :) 1122882256 M * DaPhreak bipsen: vyum or not ?! 1122882278 A * DaPhreak has currently no vserver-setup 1122882288 M * Bertl vyum --help 1122882288 M * Bertl Usage: /usr/sbin/vyum * [--all] -- + 1122882300 M * bipsen Haven't considered that one ;-) 1122882312 M * DaPhreak heh ;) 1122882372 M * bipsen BTW: my list of rpm's for WBEL4 client os - could it be relevant to have it included in the distro's directory in util-vserver ?? If yes, maybe I should send it off to Enrico ? 1122882456 A * bipsen has finally gotten something with wbel4 up and running.... 1122882477 M * Bertl bipsen: definitely! 1122882504 M * DaPhreak bipsen: got around the minilogd hanging ?! :) 1122882579 M * bipsen yup - reduced the list of rpm's dramatically - that solved the problem 1122882634 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net 1122882802 M * bipsen Hmm... "vyum dns-ext -- install openssh-server" doesn't seem to give any usefull result... :-/ 1122882996 M * Bertl what does it do? 1122883039 M * bipsen nothing happens... 1122883092 M * bipsen maybe a config file ? 1122883134 M * bipsen Hmm.. it installed bind without any problems... 1122883214 M * Bertl IIRC enrico said the 'yum' was buggy and the yum author refuses to fix it 1122883226 M * Bertl there is even a patch for yum available ... 1122883589 M * bipsen I know.... and as far as I remember, I should have patched it... but maybe my memory isn't so sood (need to be enhanced to ECC memory ;-)) 1122883717 J * Blogmeister ~Blogmeist@site.lycos.de 1122883721 A * bipsen just noticed the weekend anothe ropen source initiative - www.voresoel.dk - open source beer ;-) 1122883737 M * Bertl morning Blogmeister! 1122883748 M * bipsen gee... can't spell properly this morning 1122883755 P * Blogmeister 1122884450 J * Doener_ ~doener@p5487630D.dip.t-dialin.net 1122884891 Q * Doener` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122884916 M * Bertl morning Doener_? 1122884960 M * sid3windr Bertl: how was wth :) 1122884963 M * sid3windr didn't get washed away? :) 1122885288 M * Bertl flooded basically every second day :) 1122885338 M * Bertl but I managed to finalize 2.0 ... 1122885377 M * Bertl so we'll do rc9 today (with broken out patches) and if nobody complainsthe next two days or so .. we have a release ... 1122885510 M * DaPhreak good news :) 1122885554 M * Doener_ morning Bertl 1122885602 M * Hollow wh00t 1122885607 M * Hollow ;) 1122885627 M * Doener_ hu? 1122885654 M * Bertl huh hu? 1122885693 M * Hollow buhu hu! 1122885736 M * Doener_ huibuh! 1122885739 M * Hollow Bertl: what has changed in rc9? 1122885771 M * Bertl I don't know yet .. have to make a delta .) 1122885776 M * Hollow heh 1122885867 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@86-32-178-69.gci.net 1122885874 M * Bertl morning infowolfe_! 1122885939 M * Doener_ ok, dentist-time and then moving out the have a look at a few flats... i hope this searchs ends soon... 1122885947 M * Doener_ have a good one! 1122885951 M * Hollow cya 1122886037 M * Bertl Doener_: cya! 1122886306 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122886529 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, 2.0-rc9, ngnet ng9.5 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1122886674 M * Bertl Hollow: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc8.1-rc9.diff 1122886766 M * Hollow well, no big changes... 1122886878 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host83.201-252-29.telecom.net.ar 1122886887 M * Bertl welcome keyser_soze! 1122886908 M * Bertl Hollow: that's the idea behind it :) 1122886913 M * Hollow *g* 1122887372 M * sid3windr yay, release 1122887413 A * Aiken is already compiling 1122887429 M * Bertl wow, I'm impressed :) 1122887876 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting 1122888087 A * DaPhreak creates a new patchset :) 1122888406 M * Hollow DaPhreak++ 1122888407 M * Hollow ;) 1122888411 M * DaPhreak :P 1122888430 A * Hollow should take a look at the new baselayout 1122888448 M * DaPhreak *hrm* that freakin bash gets me nuts .. 1122888454 M * DaPhreak s/gets/drives/ 1122888468 M * Hollow bash is evil 1122888469 M * Hollow ;) 1122888499 M * DaPhreak today it works *grml* 1122888538 M * Hollow uh 1122888552 M * Hollow !!! copy /var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.5.20050421/image/sbin/ldconfig -> /sbin/ldconfig failed. 1122888552 M * Hollow !!! [Errno 28] No space left on device 1122888552 M * Hollow zeus ~ # df -h 1122888552 M * Hollow Segmentation fault 1122888560 M * DaPhreak harhar ;P 1122888578 M * DaPhreak but it doesn't work as intended .. 1122888606 M * Hollow well... this is really bad (tm) 1122888617 M * DaPhreak $ cp [41-49]* ../patches copies all files from that dir .. and not only those starting with 41 till 49 .. 1122888636 M * Hollow DaPhreak: do you have a athlon-xp libc.so.6? 1122888644 M * DaPhreak at home, yeah 1122888652 M * Hollow 2.3.5? 1122888680 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-114-40.dclient.hispeed.ch 1122888689 M * DaPhreak yeah ... but not handy :P you'll have to wait till 19:30 1122888702 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1122888706 M * TheSeer re.. 1122888716 M * DaPhreak welcome back TheSeer ;) 1122888721 M * TheSeer thanx ;> 1122888858 M * Bertl hey yarihm! TheSeer! 1122889160 M * bipsen Regarding named (bind9) - should the command channel be set to listen on the "external" IP ?? I have problems stopping named inside the vserver... 1122889241 M * Hollow reboot + live cd action *sigh* cya l8r 1122889247 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1122889282 M * Bertl bipsen: either that or assing a 'private' 127.0.0.x ip 1122889500 Q * Alecsandro Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511] 1122889823 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1122890263 M * yarihm Hey Bertl 1122890331 M * yarihm uhm Bertl, as you are right here ... the question might sound odd, but are you aware of a way to assign specific IPs to a vserver via DHCP ... normally you can tell the dhcpserver to assign a specific IP to a specific MAC, but in case of vserver that might become rather hard 1122890668 M * Bertl well, it's kind of strange to do that actually ... 1122890690 M * sid3windr heh 1122890698 M * Bertl because what you seem to want is several ips assigned to one host via DHCP 1122890755 M * yarihm Bertl: indeed ... and then have them assigned to the correct vserver ... i guess i can forget about that one. i was just thinking about manageing my internal networks via dhcp to more easily cope with structural changes ... 1122890763 M * sid3windr ngnet? :) 1122890785 M * yarihm DHCP as centralized network-configuration so to say 1122890788 M * yarihm ngnet? 1122890793 M * Bertl sid3windr: yes and no ... probably we will not have per guest mac ... 1122890818 M * Bertl well, probably not if you want to get _some_ performance :) 1122890852 M * Bertl yarihm: but, you can do something completely different ... 1122890881 M * yarihm Bertl: yes? i'm always interested in totally different stuff :) 1122890908 M * sid3windr Bertl: ah yea, it would need promisc interface I guess 1122890915 M * sid3windr there are some cards who support multiple mac.. 1122890919 M * sid3windr tulip cards or so 1122890982 M * Bertl yarihm: DHCP allows a) arbitrary data to be transmitted to the clients 1122890999 M * Bertl and b) it also allows for 'client identifier' type of requests 1122891137 M * Bertl you can also use most clients to just query the server, not assigning any interface ips 1122891348 M * yarihm Bertl: you mean something along the lines of: i transmit a data-field via dhcp with the IPs for the vservers, let a script parse the stuff and put it into the config-file for vserver? 1122891437 M * Bertl yup 1122891462 M * Bertl or you do a dhcp request for some identifier (name maybe?) for each guest, and assign that on guest startup 1122891510 M * Bertl very likely, you have to assign static ips on the dhcp server or manage the lease update yourself 1122891529 M * Bertl (not sure what it would buy you, but it should work :) 1122891618 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1122891629 M * Bertl welcome _mcp! 1122891639 M * Bertl _mcp: how is wolk going? 1122891673 Q * nokoya Read error: Connection reset by peer 1122891683 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1122891731 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1122891808 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1122891825 M * Bertl welcome revenger! 1122891831 M * Bertl wb nokoya! 1122891899 M * Aiken I was having so much fun not managing to blow up rc9 I forgot the eat the evening meal 1122891973 M * Bertl lol! 1122892032 M * bipsen Bertl: Private 127.0.0.x IP ?? The guest-server doesn't have it's own 127.0.0.1 ?? 1122892043 M * bipsen or does it conflict with the host-server 1122892058 M * Bertl it is mapped to the first assigned ip 1122892075 M * Bertl that's why the command channel on 127.0.0.1 doesn't work 1122892110 Q * revenger4 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122892157 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1122892167 M * Aiken I have bind 9 running in a 1.2.10 vserver, I either let the init scripts kill it when shutting down the vserver 1122892181 M * Aiken and it responds ok to rndc if run from within the vserver 1122892546 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122894243 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later ... 1122894250 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1122894525 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1122894601 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1122894926 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1122894949 P * jsambrook 1122894991 Q * revenger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122896109 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122897148 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-182.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1122897564 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1122900346 M * bipsen bind 9.2 gives me an error during startup: 1122900346 M * bipsen ifiter_ioctl.c:236: REQUIRE(iter->pos < (unsigned int) iter->ifc.ifc_len) failed 1122900351 M * bipsen anyone know why ? 1122901063 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection 1122901246 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1122902228 N * _mcp mcp 1122902644 J * hallyn ~hallyn@pixpat.austin.ibm.com 1122904084 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122904232 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1122904310 Q * hallyn Quit: leaving 1122905267 Q * xf__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1122905276 J * xf_ ~i@ppp239-149.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net 1122906986 N * bipsen bipsen_oO 1122910640 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1122910726 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122911715 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1122911798 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1122912104 J * revenger4 ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1122912191 Q * revenger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122912399 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de 1122912426 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122912621 Q * revenger4 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122913418 J * ray6 ~ray@klon3.gcsc2.ray.net 1122914161 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1122915288 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection 1122915536 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1122915568 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1122915574 M * Bertl evening folks! 1122915580 M * Bertl welcome ray6! :) 1122915602 M * Bertl ray6: was ray already taken? :) 1122915634 M * Bertl evening stefani! 1122915748 M * stefani evening. 1122915901 Q * stefani Remote host closed the connection 1122916338 M * Hollow hey Bertl 1122916352 M * ray6 Ree Bertl! 1122916357 M * Hollow do you stay in vienna next week? 1122916360 M * ray6 Bertl: yes, ray was gone :( 1122916386 M * ray6 Bertl: had a good trip home? 1122916405 M * Bertl yep, was fine, thanks! 1122916430 M * Bertl Hollow: yes, I plan so (well around vienna) 1122916508 M * ray6 Bertl: you had problems with the Wiki being messed with? 1122916578 M * Bertl hmm, not recently ... 1122916593 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1122916606 M * Bertl wb cryo/say! 1122916636 M * Hollow well, as i have vacation i could pop around to drink sth or the like.. 1122916638 M * ray6 Bertl: ah OK, I just read about the "Hacker Page" - the last wiki messes I had were due to chinese spambots not because of unadult kiddies... 1122916855 M * Bertl Hollow: yeah, sure, we can arrange that, just drop me a note a day before or so ... 1122916887 M * Hollow ok, you know how long it takes from munich to vienna? and what about speed limits in austria? 1122916898 M * Hollow ;) 1122916949 M * ray6 Hollow: from Munich to the Border goes quite well IIRC, then there's a 120 (or 130?) Limit, but the fuel is cheap :) 1122916965 M * Hollow well, i don't have to pay fuel :P 1122916969 M * Bertl 30/50/80/130 1122917003 M * Hollow so it'll take approx 3-4 hrs.. 1122917003 M * Bertl km/h that is (50 within cities/towns) 1122917025 M * ray6 Hollow: and don't forget to buy a "Pickerl" for the Maut 1122917033 M * Hollow a pickerl.. ^^ 1122917053 M * Hollow i think we already have one, but thx 1122918273 M * Bertl okay, folks .. translocating now ... back in a few hours ... 1122918297 M * ray6 Cu l8er! 1122918306 M * Bertl cya! 1122918313 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1122918521 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu 1122918742 M * stefani http://cryptome.org/nsa-6922774.htm 1122918914 Q * infowolfe_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122919651 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1122921473 N * bipsen_oO bipsen 1122922360 Q * lilo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1122922699 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1122926098 J * pusling ~pusling@195.215.29.124 1122926117 M * maharaja hi there 1122926125 M * maharaja is it possible to add an ip to a running vserver? 1122926149 M * DaPhreak maharaja: not yet afaik :) 1122926310 M * maharaja damn it :) 1122926326 M * stefani ngnet might allow that. 1122926516 M * maharaja ok, rebooting the vserver then :) 1122926557 M * maharaja brb (hopefully) 1122926712 Q * maharaja Remote host closed the connection 1122926784 M * Doener_ hm, actually we can do that now... ;) 1122926799 M * Doener_ ... with rc7+(?) that is... 1122926869 J * maharaja maharaja@raoul.bhatia.at 1122926896 M * micah if you configure a vserver to have an interface (say eth1) with the IP of the host machine, will this cause the host machine to become unavailable if you reboot the vserver because it will unconfigure the interface? 1122927108 A * ray6 has no clue at all :) But I don't think you're supposed to do so? But if it's possible it shouldn't have that impact as the IP config in the vserver as far as I understand it is just a limitation of the varius operations on it 1122927168 M * micah because I think I just did that :P 1122927174 A * ray6 would rather run the vserver on an internal IP and port-nat in iptables on the host to bring services from the vserver to the outside 1122927234 M * ray6 if you have only one IP 1122927345 M * micah i've got other IPs, I just was pretty sure I could run bind in a vserver, since it wasn't going to be run on the host 1122927416 M * maharaja re and web 1122927496 M * DaPhreak micah: sure as hell bind runs inside of a vserver. just be sure to compile it with --disable-linux-caps 1122927509 M * DaPhreak so it doesn't need the extra capabilities 1122927518 M * ray6 micah: as I said, for this I would use iptables on the host. But as I also said, I have no clue, I'm not an active vserver user so far :) 1122927536 M * micah DaPhreak: thats only bind9, not bind8 1122927548 M * DaPhreak ah :) sorry about that *g* 1122927570 M * Hollow maybe it would be a good idea to run bind9 then? 1122927572 M * Hollow ;) 1122927586 M * micah DaPhreak: the problem is I set one of my vserver's interface IPs to the host's IP (I could've sworn I did this before) and when I restarted the vserver it shutdown my host's networking 1122927590 M * micah Hollow: why? 1122927598 M * Hollow why not? 1122927619 M * Hollow i mean.. i'd never ever run bind... but why not use an newer version? 1122927620 M * micah because I need to rebuild it to disable the caps, so I have a reason why not, do you have a reason why? 1122927641 M * DaPhreak micah: maybe because bind8 is a *bit* old, isn't it ? 1122927644 M * micah the difference between bind9 and bind8 are not simply newer versions 1122927649 Q * yarihm Read error: Connection reset by peer 1122927656 M * DaPhreak yeah complete rewrite i guess 1122927685 M * micah the difference between bind8 and bind9 and which one I should use is not the point here 1122927694 M * micah the issue is the vserver networking 1122927723 M * Hollow well, if util-vserver deconfigured your network device you seem somewhat lost ;) 1122927726 M * DaPhreak yeah .. seems like a minor (or even a major) glitch with the tools ? 1122927746 M * micah DaPhreak: so I am right that its not supposed to do that? 1122927752 M * DaPhreak sure .. 1122927799 M * DaPhreak *hrm* wait .. well its somewhat right, since all vserver ips are the ones of the host 1122927825 M * Hollow it should only remove the aliases 1122927831 M * Hollow but not the main interface 1122927865 M * micah perhapts I configured it wrong for the vserver? 1122927903 M * Hollow if you configured the same ip as the main ip for the host ... 1122927906 Q * lownoize Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122927928 M * micah Hollow: that is not allowed? 1122927933 M * DaPhreak micah: you should definitly configure an alias interface (different ip) for the vserver 1122927941 M * micah mmm 1122927961 M * micah I could've sworn I was told otherwise here before, now I'm going to have to look through the irc logs 1122928092 M * micah stefani, maharaja: actually you can add an IP to a running vserver 1122928129 M * maharaja how do i do that? 1122928161 M * stefani really? 1122928184 M * micah yes, I did it once, you have to: 1122928196 M * micah (let me remember) 1122928210 M * micah 1. add the IP address to the config, so next restart it will work 1122928243 M * micah 2. configure the interface yourself (ip addr add foo bar) 1122928257 M * micah 3. enter the vserver and restart the processes that should get the new IP address 1122928321 M * micah number 2 would look like: ip addr add 192.168.100.100/24 broadcast + dev eth0 1122928411 A * micah adds this to the page of tricks 1122928473 M * maharaja mhm 1122928474 M * maharaja i c 1122928502 A * DaPhreak hides for not knowing the _trick_ 1122928556 M * micah I bielieve it was Doener_ who taught me that 1122928557 J * lownoize ~lownoize@p54ACAA38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1122928585 M * Hollow micah: but how does context xyz know that it has this new address? you need to chbind it too, and i donÄt know if this is possible with current tools from outside 1122928624 M * Doener_ micah: with recent releases (somewhat around rc7+) you can _really_ add ip addresses on the fly 1122928637 M * Doener_ don't know if util-vserver supports it yet though 1122928638 M * Hollow but the current utils do not implement it iirc 1122928651 M * micah Hollow: it is known when you next enter the vserver, the chcontext that you do when you do a vserver blah enter will know about the new IP 1122928666 M * Doener_ Hollow: the network context? the chbind on enter will have both addresses 1122928672 M * micah Hollow: so you need to restart services in the vserver with that context 1122928693 M * Hollow ah ok 1122928697 M * Hollow didn't know that 1122928741 M * micah Hollow: so as long as you have it configured in the vserver config directory, next vserver blah enter will have that capability, and then you restart apache and it too will know about it (note: you should restart crond also, otherwise when crond runs logrotate and restarts apache it wont have access to the new IP) 1122928761 M * Hollow heh, yeah 1122928771 M * micah Doener_: do you know what I did wrong with my network config for my vserver that allowed it to eat my host's network? 1122928815 M * Doener_ probably you didn't create a nodev file and the tools removed the ip address on vserver stop 1122928816 M * lownoize same ip adress for 2 servers? do you think this is a good idea? 1122928845 M * micah Doener_: you are right, I did not have a nodev file... does that go in the /etc/vservers//interfaces directory? 1122928852 M * Doener_ lownoize: depends on the usage, if you just want, say, postfix and apache in different vservers, no problem with that 1122928855 M * micah lownoize: if you are careful, it can be done 1122928871 M * Doener_ micah: guess so, please check the flower page to be sure 1122928882 M * micah Doener_: ah the illustrious flowerpage 1122928894 M * DaPhreak micah: nodev belongs into the interface'es directory ;) 1122928897 M * Doener_ got to love it ;) 1122928908 M * lownoize i use different ip adresses and iptables for that ;) 1122928982 M * micah DaPhreak: ok, so I should'nt have created a interfaces/1/dev file, but instead an interfaces/1/nodev file? 1122929004 M * micah looks like it from the flower page 1122929028 M * DaPhreak guess so, if you wish to use that interface as vserver's 'lo' dummy 1122929057 M * micah well, I want that interace to have the same IP as the host so I can bind a service on it 1122929128 M * DaPhreak ah, or even this :) since the nodev (IIRC) tells the utils to not touch that interface 1122929130 M * DaPhreak or that alias 1122929133 M * Doener_ micah: yep, IIRC that's right 1122929134 M * micah besides making bind9 work in a vserver, what else does compiling with --disable-linux-caps do? 1122929202 M * DaPhreak AFAIK, disables the *capability* to spawn the daemon onto different cpu's (or something like that) 1122929321 M * DaPhreak micah: http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200201/0030.html 1122929370 M * micah DaPhreak: trying to think of if it would make sense to file a wishlist bug for the debian bind9 package to build it that way 1122929393 M * DaPhreak heh, well sladen has such packages handy :) 1122929407 M * DaPhreak http://www.paul.sladen.org/debian/bind9.nocapset/ 1122929420 M * micah yeah from november 2002 1122929438 M * micah I'll probably build our own and make them available in a deb repository 1122929441 M * DaPhreak heh ;) 1122929468 M * micah but I'd prefer to know what negative impacts it woul dhave turning it off because it would be better if I didn'thave to maintain that package separately, but instead debian just used it 1122929570 M * DaPhreak micah: thats what the configure says .. 1122929573 M * DaPhreak "--disable-linux-caps disable linux capabilities" 1122929772 M * DaPhreak micah: another deb-repo -> http://ftp.lug.ro/people/radus/bind-nocapset/i386/ (dated 24.07.2005) 1122929910 M * micah DaPhreak: thanks 1122929958 M * DaPhreak --disable-linux-caps option to configure for 1122929959 M * DaPhreak systems that manage capabilities outside of named. 1122930039 M * DaPhreak *hrm* looking at the configure.in would be sufficient ;) 1122930040 M * DaPhreak http://pastebin.ca/19029 1122930074 M * micah there is one person who submitted a somewhat similar bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=212226 1122930132 M * micah it seems like its an option that the general bind9 user does NOT want enabled, unless they are using SElinux or vservers 1122931372 M * micah Doener_: if I have /etc/vservers//interfaces/0/nodev and .../interfaces/0/ip has the same IP as the host system, and I've got /etc/vservers//interfaces/dev with "eth0" then the vserver wont be able to shutdown the host's eth0 interface, but the vserver can use that IP? 1122931379 M * micah just want to make sure I am clear on that 1122931403 M * Doener_ hm, the dev file is useless, not sure if it will cause trouble 1122931486 M * micah Doener_: ok, if that is useless, what interface is configured with the ../interfaces/0/ip 1122931504 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-010.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1122931524 M * Doener_ if it is the host's ip address it is already configured, isn't it? 1122931583 M * micah Doener_: hmm, maybe I am trying to solve my problem the wrong way -- I was doing that because the vserver did not have any interfaces showing up when it was started, so when bind tried to start it could not find any interface to bind to 1122931624 M * Doener_ if it has an ip address, the interface(s) on which that address is configured should be visible 1122931638 M * micah ah, ok 1122931658 M * micah then I just need to make the ip file in interfaces/0 and then it will work 1122931687 M * Doener_ and the nodev file to avoid addition/removal of that address 1122931958 M * micah right 1122931966 M * micah can't forget that this time ;) 1122932540 M * Aiken the default 16 meg /tmp has struck again :( 1122932893 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1122933562 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1122933578 M * Aiken rc9 seems to working fine on alpha 1122933624 M * Aiken only complaint is a build of something that would have taken all night aborted 5 1/2 hours ago when it filled the very small /tmp 1122933640 M * Aiken and it should have been finishing anytime now 1122934309 M * mugwump you can resize it you know. mount -o remount,size=... /tmp iirc 1122934337 M * Aiken that is correct but finding this 5 hours later is of no use 1122934366 M * Aiken I went the brute force method, removed that line from /etc/vservers/.../fstab 1122934965 M * Aiken in a vserver the remount,size bit results in a mount: permission denied 1122937119 Q * ntrs__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1122937361 J * Blogmeister ~Blogmeist@site.lycos.de 1122937851 Q * Blogmeister Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1122937927 M * sladen DaPhreak: I built so fresh ones the other day, I should put them there and update it 1122939199 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1122940118 Q * Doener_ Quit: Leaving 1122940351 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)