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1122608837 J * Hmmmm ~Hmmmm@202.144.29.194
1122610423 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-041.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1122616653 J * litage ~nick@ws01.5749.dsl.winshop.com.au
1122617966 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl
1122619435 J * kjo nobody@news.stud.uni-goettingen.de
1122619607 J * Blogmeister ~Blogmeist@site.lycos.de
1122619622 P * Blogmeister 
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1122619811 J * SNy 8e89699e80@bmx-chemnitz.de
1122619875 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1122619888 M * Bertl morning folks!
1122619906 M * litage afternoon Bertl
1122619921 M * Bertl hey, do I know you? :)
1122620005 M * litage dunno..do i know you?
1122620046 M * Bertl well, not that I know of, so welcome here then :)
1122626211 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, 2.0-rc8.1, ngnet ng9.5  -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 
1122626211 T * Bertl -
1122626398 J * prae ~prae@gut75-1-81-57-27-189.fbx.proxad.net
1122626405 M * Bertl morning prae!
1122626638 M * SiD3WiNDR hey Bertl 
1122626641 M * SiD3WiNDR you're awake early
1122626644 M * SiD3WiNDR or still awake? ;)
1122626663 M * Bertl I'm awake early ...
1122626698 M * SiD3WiNDR hehe
1122626832 M * prae hi Bertl 
1122626835 M * prae hi DaPhreak 
1122627057 M * Bertl okay, off in a few minutes, hopefully back later then ...
1122627342 M * Bertl okay .. cya
1122627348 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1122628019 J * duck ~duck@ip68-98-18-98.ph.ph.cox.net
1122628164 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122628954 M * bipsen_zZ maybe a bit off-topic...I'm trying to configure bonding on a coupel of NIC's, and found a webmin module to help me... but how do I save the configuration ?
1122628959 N * bipsen_zZ bipsen
1122628972 A * bipsen just noticed the wrong nick ;-)
1122628990 M * bipsen In an example I've seen:
1122628994 M * bipsen BOOTPROTO='static'
1122628994 M * bipsen BROADCAST='192.168.1.255'
1122628994 M * bipsen IPADDR='192.168.1.1'
1122628994 M * bipsen NETMASK='255.255.255.0'
1122628994 M * bipsen NETWORK='192.168.1.0'
1122628995 M * bipsen REMOTE_IPADDR=''
1122628995 M * bipsen STARTMODE='onboot'
1122628997 M * bipsen BONDING_MASTER='yes'
1122628997 M * bipsen BONDING_MODULE_OPTS='mode=balance-alb miimon=100'
1122628999 M * bipsen BONDING_SLAVE0='bus-pci-0000:02:01.0'
1122628999 M * bipsen BONDING_SLAVE1='bus-pci-0000:02:02.0'
1122629010 M * bipsen But how do I find the bus-pci ... stuf for my adapters ??
1122629240 P * duck 
1122629687 M * litage bipsen: what distro?
1122629824 M * litage bipsen: usually that stuff goes in /etc/sysconfig/nic-config/ifcfg-eth0   (or whichever NIC)
1122629942 M * bipsen litage: WhiteBox Enterprise Linux...
1122629953 M * bipsen I think I found a way to do it....
1122631820 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1122632435 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de
1122633188 Q * case Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122633429 M * Hollow Doener`: you around?
1122633473 M * Doener` half asleep, but yes ;)
1122634524 M * Hollow Doener`: i documented all libvserver code ;)
1122634530 M * Hollow http://dev.gentoo.org/~hollow/vserver/libvserver/doc/index.html
1122634586 N * bipsen bipsen_oO
1122634765 M * Doener` nice :)
1122634780 M * Doener` got to go now... will probably take a look at it in the evening
1122634813 M * Hollow cu
1122635291 Q * litage Quit: Leaving
1122635614 N * DaCa-se DaCa-no
1122636239 M * DaPhreak lo prae :P
1122637295 M * prae hi Da'  :)
1122637706 M * infowolfe Hollow, thank you for your gentoo work, makes life easy ;-)
1122638019 M * Hollow infowolfe: thx :)
1122638032 M * infowolfe Hollow, what herd are you in anyway?
1122638082 M * Hollow currently apache herd only... but i'll create a vserver herd soon
1122638112 M * infowolfe derbien is bonsaikitten and axxo's personal hosting provider ;-)
1122638138 M * Hollow ah yeah.. i already talked to bonsaikitten
1122638199 M * Hollow DaPhreak will get dev status soon too, so i'll create a vserver herd then... maybe some others want to join
1122638232 M * infowolfe cool :-)
1122638237 M * infowolfe i guess all it took was time.
1122638263 M * Hollow yup... there will be new stages and an updated baselayout/profile soon too... hopefully before the 2.0 release
1122638267 M * infowolfe i started bitching in '03-ish trying to get official linux-vserver support :-p
1122638300 M * Hollow '03-ish?
1122638323 M * infowolfe if i remember correctly it was some time in 2003 that i started trying to get gentoo support for linux-vserver
1122638394 M * Hollow well, much progress since then ;)
1122638434 A * Hollow can't stop working on libvserver :)
1122638459 M * infowolfe :-) good
1122638463 M * infowolfe i have no clue what it is...
1122638464 M * infowolfe but :-p
1122638492 M * Hollow basically it's a syscall wrapper library, just as libvserver bundled with util-vserver, but clean, small and comprehensive :P
1122638506 M * infowolfe sounds ncie
1122638507 M * infowolfe nice*
1122638519 M * Hollow http://dev.croup.de/proj/libvserver/wiki
1122638527 M * infowolfe instead of giving util-vserver and other utils a moving target, you give a nice abstraction layer
1122638590 M * Hollow yep, it's split into libvserver and libvserver-util, the former contains all syscall wrappers, the latter contains common functions used by the vserver-tools (which are not really done yet)
1122638691 M * infowolfe brb, putting this imac back together again after a ram + hard disk upgrade (128MB -> 1GB PC133ram / 30GB (Slow) -> 120GB 7200rpm)
1122639357 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de
1122639555 M * brc which caps should i enable to have non-patched bind working and how do i enable it? What would be the security risks?
1122639745 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122639933 Q * revenger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122639957 J * revenger ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de
1122640224 A * Hollow wonders why so many people use bind
1122640256 M * Hollow there are so many good name servers out there, why use bind then?
1122640277 J * revenger_ ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de
1122640574 M * brc everyone uses it :)
1122640582 J * revenger4 ~joe@bulldog.infosys.de
1122640608 M * Hollow brc: no reason at all
1122640651 Q * revenger Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122640713 M * Hollow imo bind is just too bloated
1122640733 M * Hollow pdns, mydns and tinydns always worked like a charm for me, bind only made trouble
1122640781 Q * revenger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122644192 M * Hollow infowolfe: i forgot... i'm also member of the kernel herd ;)
1122645473 M * brc Hollow: but users want it :(
1122645483 M * Hollow what a pitty ;)
1122645596 M * brc Hollow: is the limit in /etc/rlimits/rss in bytes or kbytes ?
1122646397 M * Hollow dunno
1122646936 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 !
1122648296 M * infowolfe Hollow, djbdns ++ ;-)
1122648379 M * Hollow hehe
1122648381 M * Hollow i mainly use pdns
1122648384 M * infowolfe seriously ;-)
1122648394 M * infowolfe the dnscache element rocks
1122648413 M * Hollow i just took pdns because of its nice mysql integration
1122648433 M * infowolfe http://djbdnsrocks.org/ (see the vegadns portion)
1122648445 M * infowolfe there's an issue with genkernel on ppc :-S
1122648504 M * Hollow well yeah.. vegadns looks nice
1122648516 M * Hollow genkernel.. ahem
1122648518 M * infowolfe used over https it's quite nice
1122648528 M * Hollow a real sysadmin compiles the kernel manually ;)
1122648530 M * infowolfe hey, i'm just trying to get this imac running, that's all... then i can build a decent kernel for it
1122648537 M * Hollow ;)
1122648553 M * infowolfe and it's running 2.6.10 anyway (which isn't my first choice)
1122648696 M * Hollow arrr
1122648700 M * Hollow females suck
1122648706 M * Hollow (and i don't mean dicks)
1122648709 M * Hollow ;)
1122648711 M * infowolfe lol
1122648719 M * infowolfe little politically incorrect, but who cares ;-)
1122648726 A * Hollow doesn't ;)
1122648744 M * infowolfe and don't let lisa hear you say that ;-)
1122648754 M * infowolfe or dmwaters ;-) dmwaters especially
1122648761 M * Hollow heh
1122648799 M * Hollow well, generalisation isn't good anyway ;)
1122648808 M * Hollow but especially one fmeale sucks atm ;)
1122648817 M * infowolfe lol
1122648862 M * Hollow fortunately my box always loves me :)
1122648866 M * infowolfe Hollow, do you know anything about .de firearm laws?
1122648874 M * Hollow and best: it always does what i tell it
1122648881 M * infowolfe lol
1122648908 M * Hollow hum, no... you need a "Waffenschein" (some license dunno) iirc
1122648914 M * infowolfe ah
1122648974 M * infowolfe i'm buying an fn five seven ;-)
1122648980 M * Hollow infowolfe: are you a gentoo dev?
1122648987 M * infowolfe nope
1122649013 M * infowolfe i don't know c...
1122649017 M * infowolfe and i don't like python
1122649027 M * Hollow oh, i didn't either when becoming a ddev
1122649036 M * Hollow python--
1122649046 M * infowolfe i like ruby ;-)
1122649057 M * Hollow i start liking you ;)
1122649085 M * Hollow python is just... argh... is it oop? no, is it functional? no.. it's wishy washy
1122649105 M * infowolfe ooh, i upgraded my girlfriend's imac today... 120GB seagate HD (from 30GB maxtor) and 1GB of ram (from 128MB)
1122649126 M * Hollow heh nice :)
1122649140 M * infowolfe it's going to be dual boot gentoo for dev and macos X for her
1122649150 M * infowolfe but i'll get her hooked on kde probably :-p
1122649153 M * Hollow some time in the far future i'll buy some nice powermac :)
1122649158 M * infowolfe (kde is for chicks, gnome is ... i won't start that one)
1122649171 M * Hollow well then...
1122649174 A * Hollow is a chick :P
1122649177 M * infowolfe lol
1122649212 M * Hollow i started with gnome (urgh), swithced over to fluxbox (great wm), and stayed at kde (best) :P
1122649216 M * infowolfe mind if i msg you?
1122649222 M * Hollow sure..
1122649224 M * infowolfe i like xfce (very clean, simple)
1122649243 M * Hollow yeah, i had xfce too... nice, but still too much gtk
1122649244 M * Hollow ;)
1122652384 M * Hollow hm
1122654519 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection
1122654894 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154
1122655332 M * TheSeer we shouldn't start a desktop-war here ;>
1122655348 M * TheSeer (like imho, kde suxx big time... )
1122655661 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection
1122655936 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154
1122656018 M * Hollow TheSeer: well, if you'd like to know what war is you should prolly look at mr. bush ;)
1122656037 M * TheSeer hehe
1122656058 M * Hollow so, you see, we're far far away from doing that ;)
1122656109 M * TheSeer well, okaaay, agreed ;>
1122656121 M * Hollow :P
1122657190 M * FaUl hi
1122657197 M * FaUl Bertl is not here?
1122657260 M * FaUl Hollow: i stayed at evilwm ;-)
1122657264 M * Hollow at least his nick says his afk
1122657274 M * Hollow s/his/he's/
1122657283 M * FaUl s/his/its/
1122657290 M * FaUl s/its/it's/
1122658427 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122658540 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1122659267 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122659316 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu
1122659486 Q * micah Quit: 
1122659499 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu
1122659564 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_WTH
1122659573 M * Bertl_WTH FaUl: PING!
1122659595 M * Bertl_WTH evening folks!
1122659625 M * brc BERTL!
1122659629 M * Bertl_WTH hey brc!
1122659804 M * brc bertl
1122659813 M * brc i enabled cap_sys_resource to have bind working
1122659823 M * brc where can i find the manual page of it, or some document showing me the risks ?
1122659983 M * brc i have another doubt
1122660115 M * brc i am gonna limit vserver memory using rlimits/rss.hard. i want to limit the vserver to "have" 64 mbytes. 
1122660130 M * brc is the value in the rss.hard specified in bytes/kbytes or megabytes? i think it is mgabytes
1122660133 M * brc oops
1122660135 M * brc bytes
1122660802 M * Bertl_WTH usually it's pages ...
1122660819 M * Bertl_WTH so you probably want to multiply it by the pagesize (4k on x86)
1122660867 M * brc you mean 64 megabytes / 4 kbytes. right ?
1122662403 M * Bertl_WTH yep
1122662721 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net
1122662759 Q * prae Quit: 
1122663097 M * brc Loki|muh:)
1122663102 M * brc Bertl_WTH: OK :)
1122663112 M * brc Bertl_WTH: and what are the risks of setting cap_sys_resource ?
1122663611 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1122664417 Q * dsoul Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1122667232 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl
1122669785 M * Bertl_WTH brc: check /usr/include/linux/capabilities.h for that ...
1122669861 M * dsoul Bertl_WTH: you are at wth?:)
1122669954 M * SiD3WiNDR :o
1122669965 M * SiD3WiNDR should have told me, I might have gone :p
1122669975 M * SiD3WiNDR I know a bunch of people there but didn't think it was worth it :)
1122670829 M * Bertl_WTH dsoul: yep ...
1122670855 M * Bertl_WTH SiD3WiNDR: well, I actually announced it the day I know I would come here ...
1122670971 M * dsoul Bertl_WTH: find this tent ;)
1122670973 M * dsoul http://felinemenace.org/~andrewg/wth/dscn0787.jpg
1122671122 M * Bertl_WTH well, why should I?
1122671148 M * dsoul alot of my friends are there :)
1122671164 M * Bertl_WTH currently I have a nice place at the evenphone tent ...
1122671176 M * Bertl_WTH and it's raining again :/
1122671236 M * Bertl_WTH but I guess you can send them over here ...
1122671241 M * dsoul Bertl_WTH: not now, when you will have a free time :)
1122671281 M * dsoul that might be a problem ;p
1122671286 M * dsoul no contact 
1122671306 M * Bertl_WTH yeah, it's hard to reach anyone here ... except via phone :)
1122671322 M * dsoul or irc ;P
1122671358 M * dsoul but i get Permission denied on their server :/
1122671413 M * SiD3WiNDR =)
1122671416 M * SiD3WiNDR dect dect!
1122671705 Q * Hollow Quit: /dev/zero
1122671757 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1122671846 M * dsoul heh firewall :/
1122671990 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
1122672106 M * Bertl_WTH welcome stefani!
1122672326 M * stefani hola. 
1122672405 M * stefani right now my biggest problem with vservers is getting people to accept use of them. :\
1122672467 Q * Hollow Quit: /dev/zero
1122672478 M * Bertl_WTH stefani: aha?
1122672501 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1122672655 M * Bertl_WTH wb Hollow!
1122672662 M * Hollow hey Bertl_WTH 
1122672690 A * Hollow wonders if mozilla will ever get fonts working
1122672950 Q * dsoul Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1122673266 M * Doener` Hollow: yeah... if i add certain fonts (don't know which) rendering gets broken... sometimes characters are cut off and the top or sth. like that...
1122673278 M * Doener` s/and/at/
1122673297 M * Hollow well, fortunately i only need firefox if konqueror gets stucked
1122673317 M * Hollow with mad JS or flash or sth like this
1122673332 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl
1122673356 M * Doener` some time ago i got too sick of flash stuff and removed the plugin... a site that insists on flash isn't worth viewing...
1122673411 M * Doener` Bertl_WTH: how's the wheather at wth? i heard it's raining all day...
1122673431 M * Doener` s/it's/it was/
1122673460 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net
1122673465 M * Hollow well, our corp site will be flash ;)
1122673482 M * Doener` guess i won't visit that site then ;)
1122673498 M * Hollow heh
1122673556 M * SiD3WiNDR same
1122673560 M * SiD3WiNDR and yea, it's thunderstorming @ wth ;)
1122673602 M * Doener` hope you got some interesting folks in your tent then ;)
1122673608 M * Hollow will go to bed now... cu tomorrow
1122673614 M * Doener` night Hollow!
1122673629 M * Hollow n8 Doener` and take a look at libvserver ;)
1122673635 M * Hollow it's getting nice ;)
1122673647 M * SiD3WiNDR neight? :)
1122673666 M * Hollow SiD3WiNDR: in german, 8 = acht, and nacht = night ;)
1122673696 M * SiD3WiNDR yes, in dutch too, but I'm not a fan of stuff like "n8", "w8", "u", "r", "b", "2", etc :p
1122673719 M * Hollow ok, but tbh gtg rsn..
1122673726 M * Hollow :P
1122673726 M * SiD3WiNDR k np cu
1122673742 M * infowolfe SiD3WiNDR, don't mean to nitpick... but how can a person that has a nick that is almost all caps have a problem with how others speak?
1122673767 A * infowolfe just looks confused for a while
1122673768 M * Hollow chatting is so amusing... ;)
1122673769 M * SiD3WiNDR infowolfe: people whose nick doesnt start with capital should not comment ;) it's just legacy ;)
1122673776 M * SiD3WiNDR Hollow: hell yes :P
1122673798 M * SiD3WiNDR my nick is bbs heritage
1122673800 M * infowolfe SiD3WiNDR, lack of caps is socially acceptable, ALL CAPS GENERALLY ISN'T
1122673802 M * SiD3WiNDR although then I had an e at the end :p
1122673803 M * infowolfe ah...
1122673805 M * SiD3WiNDR it's not all caps
1122673812 M * SiD3WiNDR there's a number and 2 lowercase! ;)
1122673815 M * infowolfe yah, the i's are lowercase ;-)
1122673819 M * SiD3WiNDR so only 2/3 caps *g$
1122673830 M * SiD3WiNDR I guess this should go in ##nicks :p
1122673832 A * infowolfe slaps his forehead
1122673832 M * Hollow CAPS LOCK ROCKS!
1122673833 M * SiD3WiNDR ah no
1122673835 M * SiD3WiNDR its oftc
1122673837 M * Hollow :P
1122673839 M * SiD3WiNDR ok, in #nicks
1122673840 M * SiD3WiNDR hehe
1122673841 M * Doener` just make it sId§wIndr
1122673846 M * SiD3WiNDR hm
1122673848 M * SiD3WiNDR I don't speak utf8
1122673851 M * infowolfe lol
1122673854 M * Hollow heh
1122673856 M * dsoul rotfl
1122673857 A * infowolfe giggles at the utf8 comment
1122673876 N * SiD3WiNDR sId3wIndr
1122673884 M * sId3wIndr this actually doens't look like anything does it.
1122673905 M * infowolfe why do the i's have to be different caps?
1122673906 M * Hollow well, laws are not everyones territory, so you cannot require him to know the § char :P
1122673914 M * infowolfe just Sid3windr or sid3windr?
1122673925 M * sId3wIndr infowolfe: it was Doener`'s suggestion ;)
1122673936 N * sId3wIndr sid3windr
1122673937 M * sid3windr happy now? :P
1122673955 M * infowolfe nobody's ever happy
1122673969 M * dsoul nah what about that "3" ;p
1122673970 A * Hollow jsut wanted to say that
1122673975 A * infowolfe goes back to fighting with os x
1122673993 M * Hollow hm, i'm still awake..
1122674036 M * Hollow so, i'm realy gone now
1122674039 M * Hollow cya
1122674080 M * dsoul night Hollow 
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1122679036 J * brc bruce@200141118172.user.veloxzone.com.br
1122679129 Q * brc Quit: 
1122681518 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)