1121472795 Q * Val Quit: zZz 1121473617 Q * jonsmel Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121474609 Q * DaPhreak jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * zimbo jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * albeiro jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * virtuoso jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * Doener_ jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * Zoiah jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * baggins jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * Loki|muh jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * id jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * atsab jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * BWare jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * SNy jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474609 Q * neofutur jupiter.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1121474693 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1121474700 J * SNy 963562cfa9@bmx-chemnitz.de 1121474704 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1121474812 J * Zoiah Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net 1121475177 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1121475187 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt 1121475258 J * Doener_ ~doener@p54875283.dip.t-dialin.net 1121475276 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1121475317 J * albeiro ~albeiro@graffias.estrefa.pl 1121475321 J * id ~id@relax-media.softwarezentrum.de 1121475324 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1121475391 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1121475658 J * explasm__ explasm@p549F50A7.dip.t-dialin.net 1121476088 Q * eXplasm2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121476688 Q * Greek0 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121477507 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Network is unreachable 1121477508 J * baggins_ baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1121477508 Q * baggins Read error: Connection reset by peer 1121477508 Q * albeiro Read error: Network is unreachable 1121477508 J * albeiro ~albeiro@graffias.estrefa.pl 1121477587 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1121480263 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1121480355 M * Bertl evening folks! 1121480557 M * DaCa-fi hi Bertl 1121480585 M * Bertl hey DaCa-fi! what is the 'fi' for? 1121480622 M * DaCa-fi debconf5, finland 1121480649 M * Bertl ah, the big debian meeting? 1121480685 M * DaCa-fi yep, having a great time 1121480743 M * Bertl so anybody working on future vserver stuff (debian wise)? 1121480955 M * DaCa-fi not that I know of 1121481009 M * Bertl well, it's a conf for 'planning' future stuff, no? 1121481401 J * zimbo ~zimbo@callisto.dom.bonis.de 1121481479 M * Bertl welcome zimbo! 1121481604 J * Doener` ~doener@p54877B6C.dip.t-dialin.net 1121481649 M * DaCa-fi Bertl: thats part of it, but it usually tends to be more like a socializing event imho. 1121482038 Q * Doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121482358 M * eyck DaCa-fi: so what do people do, drink and pick up chicks? 1121482415 M * Bertl eyck: probably just the former ... 1121482467 M * eyck oh well, I need to learn to drink sometime then, 1121482613 M * Bertl eyck: btw, I wrote the script I buged you so long for .. but not in perl of course ... 1121482639 M * eyck good for you, in awk then? 1121482654 M * Bertl yep, mixture of bash/gawk 1121482764 M * eyck this proves how useless I am, 1121482775 M * eyck especially at this time of night 1121482797 M * Bertl no, this is just to tell you that you do not have to hide anymore if I show up :) 1121482839 M * eyck oh, good, that, 1121482841 M * eyck right, 1121482853 M * eyck nice to see you then :) 1121482863 M * Bertl yeah, my pleasure! 1121483922 M * DaCa-fi eyck: drinks from all over the world, DD's hopping nekid from a swim in the sea to the sauna, and stuff like that :) 1121483952 M * Bertl ah, the usual perv party :) 1121484008 M * eyck swim, sea, sauna? and nobody invited me? 1121484288 M * eyck hehe 1121484289 M * eyck 04:51 (Tonio): i need some help 1121484289 M * eyck 04:51 (Tonio): please 1121484289 M * eyck 04:54 (Tonio): c'mon 1121484291 M * eyck 04:54 (Tonio): help me 1121484294 M * eyck 04:56 (Tonio): assholes 1121484771 M * eyck oh, well, 1121485903 M * Bertl does anybody have a simple example how to use the kernel auditing interface? 1121485912 M * Bertl (syscall auditing that is) 1121488522 M * Hollow morning 1121488582 M * aba DaCa-fi: and currently singing till 7:30 in the morning ... 1121488584 M * aba :( 1121493438 M * matti eyck: LOL 1121493525 M * Bertl matti: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ 1121493542 M * matti Bertl: ? 1121493562 M * Bertl next time you need it :) 1121493600 M * matti Bertl: Oh, I see... #kernelnewbies ? ;] Heheheh. 1121493603 M * matti Bertl: :)*~ 1121493615 M * Bertl :] 1121493648 M * matti ;] 1121494511 M * Bertl anybody interested in testing a few changes/debug things regarding locks? 1121494543 Q * are|lunch Quit: bbl 1121498551 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1121498632 M * Bertl welcome renihs! 1121498725 A * Aiken is still hyped up after playing with a chainsaw and is ready to try anything 1121498744 M * renihs morning Bertl! 1121498789 M * Bertl Aiken: sounds doom^Wgood to me :) 1121498897 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.12.2-vs2.0-rc7.diff 1121498909 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-2.6.12.2-vs2.0-rc7-rc7.2.diff 1121498920 M * Bertl (the delta ontop of the rc7) 1121498922 M * Aiken already have rc7 running on 1 machine 1121498965 M * Bertl make sure to enable vserver debug options (kernel) 1121499090 M * Bertl watch out for strange 'vxD: assertion...' messages in the kernel log 1121499117 M * Bertl (it would be interesting to get some simple test for flock and posix locks) 1121499179 M * Aiken ok 1121499243 M * Aiken you want vserver historty enabled as well? 1121499249 M * Bertl btw, it includes a bunch of 'improvements' to the xid code too ... e.g. it checks for proper remount, and/or xid support 1121499265 M * Bertl Aiken: can't hurt if you encounter a panic/oops 1121499370 M * Aiken I hope I don't, only 10C where that computer is 1121499386 M * Bertl heh, right! :) 1121499747 Q * renihs Remote host closed the connection 1121499990 M * Bertl Aiken: and I updated the testfs.sh once again: now supports a terse output format and does some mount/remount checks too 1121500030 M * Aiken still waiting for the kernel compile :( 1121500034 M * Aiken I grab that as well 1121500292 M * Bertl ah, great! just read that reiserfs will enable attribs by default in the future ... 1121500477 M * Aiken a bit wary of reiserfs at the moment, had a bad bad crash recently 1121500493 M * Aiken bad enough the choice was rebuild or use the most recent full system backup 1121500912 M * Bertl well, I'm not very convinced about reiserfs either, but some folks just love it :) 1121501023 M * Aiken I was a fan until that big crash, still use it on a couple of other computers 1121501041 M * Aiken system always felt faster and booted fast with reiserfs than ext3 1121501048 M * Aiken the system is up with the new kernel 1121501065 M * Aiken is testfs.sh run on the host or guest? 1121501092 Q * id Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121501125 M * Bertl host, and you have to use a 'device' where the filesystems will be created and a mountpoint 1121501150 M * Bertl (and of course the various filesystem tools need to be installed) 1121501415 M * Aiken http://pastebin.com/314363 1121501462 M * Aiken with a few of these http://pastebin.com/314364 in the system log 1121501484 M * Bertl yeah, that looks good ... 1121501487 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1121501498 M * Bertl you can try with '-t' option (terse info) 1121501516 M * Bertl and also with '-x' option (test xid tagging) 1121501571 M * Bertl and you can specify a 'list' of filesystems separated by ',' to the -F part 1121501611 M * Bertl (the xid tagging tests require one of the tagging methods) 1121501687 M * Aiken http://pastebin.com/314370 1121501740 M * Bertl hmm, that is not supposed to happen ... 1121501763 M * Bertl could you redo that one with '-v' please? 1121501797 M * Aiken could it be the loopback device being used be the problem? 1121501802 M * Bertl (what arch is that?) 1121501815 M * Aiken alpha 1121501821 M * Bertl no, loopback should be fine (if it is assigned of course) 1121501857 M * Aiken /dev/loop0 points to a 30 meg file 1121501867 M * Aiken testfs.sh-0.04: ewrite: command not found 1121501872 M * Aiken a few of those errors 1121501879 M * Bertl ah, that is still there, damn! 1121501888 J * Rushmoom ~me@80-219-252-33.dclient.hispeed.ch 1121502008 M * Aiken http://pastebin.com/314373 1121502036 J * Greek0 ~greek0@81.189.246.175 1121502506 M * Bertl Aiken: okay, let's try this one http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testfs.sh-0.04b 1121502835 M * Aiken much better http://pastebin.com/314379 1121502848 M * Aiken all succeeded 1121502861 M * Bertl excellent, the ewrite is a simple script in the dir 1121502893 M * Bertl but I removed it on the way ... just forgot to update the script in _all_ places 1121503547 Q * SiD3WiNDR Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121503566 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1121503593 M * Bertl okay, thanks for testing this stuff, I'm off to bed now 1121503616 M * Bertl have a good whatever everyone, cya later ... 1121503623 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1121503645 M * dsoul whatewer Bertl :) 1121503841 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176 1121504388 Q * Loki|muh xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * albeiro xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * baggins_ xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * explasm__ xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * nox xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * Hunger xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * meebey xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * gregster xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * Medivh xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * aba xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * Greek0 xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * Rushmoom xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * Doener` xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504388 Q * Zoiah xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * neofutur xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * SNy xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * virtuoso xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * TheSeer xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * brc xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * eyck xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * cryo xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * monrad xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * tchan xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * maharaja xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * sladen xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * BobR_oO_ xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * case xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * micah xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * mugwump xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * stupidawy xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * janra xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * jkl xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * pg`aw|cereal xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * skceb xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * ddlp xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * MooingLemur xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * locksy xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504391 Q * Bertl_zZ xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1121504684 J * Greek0 ~greek0@81.189.246.175 1121504684 J * Rushmoom ~me@80-219-252-33.dclient.hispeed.ch 1121504684 J * Doener` ~doener@p54877B6C.dip.t-dialin.net 1121504684 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1121504684 J * albeiro ~albeiro@albeiro.usercloak.oftc.net 1121504684 J * baggins_ baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1121504684 J * explasm__ explasm@p549F50A7.dip.t-dialin.net 1121504684 J * Zoiah Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net 1121504684 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1121504684 J * SNy 963562cfa9@bmx-chemnitz.de 1121504684 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1121504684 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1121504684 J * brc bruce@201008088244.user.veloxzone.com.br 1121504684 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1121504684 J * aba ~aba@eos.turmzimmer.net 1121504684 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1121504684 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1121504684 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1121504684 J * MooingLemur ~troy@phx200.pinchaser.com 1121504684 J * ddlp ~daniel@205.234.152.200 1121504684 J * Bertl_zZ ~herbert@212.16.62.52 1121504684 J * skceb skceb@bang-bang.feuer-frei.com 1121504684 J * pg`aw|cereal ~cereal@217.20.124.153 1121504684 J * jkl ~eric@ool-182cef46.dyn.optonline.net 1121504684 J * janra janra@paradox.homeip.net 1121504684 J * stupidawy foo@you.wish.you.were.pimp.olicio.us 1121504684 J * mugwump ~samv@210-54-92-184.ipnets.xtra.co.nz 1121504684 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1121504684 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1121504684 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de 1121504684 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1121504684 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de 1121504684 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1121504684 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1121504684 J * BobR_oO_ ~georg@212.16.62.52 1121504684 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1121504684 J * maharaja ~maharaja@ipax.at 1121504684 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1121506604 J * dof ~dof@virtualfedora3.llgc.org.uk 1121506693 M * dof Hi. Has anyone experienced a problem with the filesystem rpm on Fedora Core 3 vservers not being able to chown /proc ? 1121506883 M * dof not to worry 1121506897 M * dof fixed with --excludepath=/proc to rpm :) 1121507871 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1121508377 P * dof 1121509166 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1121510182 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121512281 A * SiD3WiNDR installs 2.0rc7 1121514536 N * baggins_ baggins 1121514852 Q * explasm__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121516473 J * duckx ~Duck@mna75-1-81-57-39-234.fbx.proxad.net 1121520203 J * prae ~prae@sherpadown.net 1121520864 Q * brc Quit: No windows for this server 1121520921 Q * Doener` Quit: Leaving 1121521131 J * Doener ~doener@p54877B6C.dip.t-dialin.net 1121522875 J * _are_ ~are@62.112.159.81 1121522878 M * _are_ hi 1121524311 J * eXplasm explasm@p549F77DF.dip.t-dialin.net 1121524311 Q * eXplasm Quit: 1121524843 Q * matti Remote host closed the connection 1121528056 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1121528884 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121529296 Q * duckx xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * baggins xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * Loki|muh xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * albeiro xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * nox xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * meebey xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * gregster xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * Medivh xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * Hunger xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * aba xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * maharaja xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * BobR_oO_ xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * case xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * locksy xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * micah xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * mugwump xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * stupidawy xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * jkl xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529296 Q * skceb xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * ddlp xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * MooingLemur xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * cryo xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * TheSeer xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * virtuoso xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * Zoiah xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * Rushmoom xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * Greek0 xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * tchan xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * sladen xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * janra xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * pg`aw|cereal xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * eyck xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * monrad xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * SNy xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * neofutur xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529297 Q * Bertl_zZ xenon.oftc.net helium.oftc.net 1121529322 J * duckx ~Duck@mna75-1-81-57-39-234.fbx.proxad.net 1121529322 J * MooingLemur ~troy@phx200.pinchaser.com 1121529322 J * ddlp ~daniel@205.234.152.200 1121529322 J * Bertl_zZ ~herbert@212.16.62.52 1121529322 J * skceb skceb@bang-bang.feuer-frei.com 1121529322 J * pg`aw|cereal ~cereal@217.20.124.153 1121529322 J * jkl ~eric@ool-182cef46.dyn.optonline.net 1121529322 J * janra janra@paradox.homeip.net 1121529322 J * stupidawy foo@you.wish.you.were.pimp.olicio.us 1121529322 J * mugwump ~samv@210-54-92-184.ipnets.xtra.co.nz 1121529322 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1121529322 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1121529322 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de 1121529322 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1121529322 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de 1121529322 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1121529322 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1121529322 J * BobR_oO_ ~georg@212.16.62.52 1121529322 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1121529322 J * maharaja ~maharaja@ipax.at 1121529322 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1121529322 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1121529322 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1121529322 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1121529322 J * aba ~aba@eos.turmzimmer.net 1121529322 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1121529322 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1121529322 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1121529322 J * SNy 963562cfa9@bmx-chemnitz.de 1121529322 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.net 1121529322 J * Zoiah Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net 1121529322 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1121529322 J * albeiro ~albeiro@albeiro.usercloak.oftc.net 1121529322 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1121529322 J * Rushmoom ~me@80-219-252-33.dclient.hispeed.ch 1121529322 J * Greek0 ~greek0@81.189.246.175 1121529354 T * services.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, devel 1.9.5, 2.0-rc7, ng9.5 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; 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he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1121531421 Q * renihs Remote host closed the connection 1121531445 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1121531465 M * Bertl morning folks! 1121531529 M * Bertl Doener: you around? 1121531541 M * Doener yep 1121531590 M * Bertl I have some patches to look at for you, if you got some time? (but I have to break them down first) 1121531629 M * Doener in half an hour i could take a look 1121531639 M * Bertl excellent! TIA! 1121531912 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121532008 J * eXplasm explasm@p549F77DF.dip.t-dialin.net 1121532050 M * Bertl welcome eXplasm! 1121532329 Q * Zoiah Read error: Connection reset by peer 1121532462 J * Zoiah Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net 1121532803 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1121532812 M * Bertl wb Zoiah! 1121532817 M * Bertl wb renihs! 1121532821 M * Zoiah Hi Bertl. :) 1121532875 M * renihs hi Bertl! :) 1121533800 M * DaPhreak hmm Bertl, if I create a /dev/tty device node, will the vserver be able to access the real device ?! (that one outside of the chroot) 1121533841 M * Bertl ttys do not live in the filesystem, only the device nodes do, so yes, it will be able to access that tty ... 1121533893 M * Bertl Doener: delta-debug-feat02.diff, delta-locks-fix01.diff, delta-xid-clean02.diff and delta-tagxid-fix01.diff 1121533905 M * Doener FOR-2.0? 1121533910 M * Bertl yep 1121534624 M * Rushmoom Bertl, if you're still interested, would you mind taking another look at the "broken less" issue I mentioned the day before yesterday? 1121534653 M * Bertl sure, you got a kernel with debug running? 1121534686 M * Rushmoom Bertl, yes, rc6 with all the Debug options you told me 1121534716 M * Bertl excellent, so first thing, look into the kernel log (dmesg) if you get any suspicious messages 1121534748 M * Doener Bertl: patches look good. Any specific reasons for not using XID_TAG_SB() in a few places in tagxid-fix01? 1121534762 M * Doener + !(sb->s_flags & MS_TAGXID)) { 1121534767 M * Doener like that one, in the first hunk 1121534786 M * Bertl no, just missed it ... I guess 1121534791 M * Doener ok, just wondered 1121534835 M * Bertl will look for that in an extra patch ... 1121534902 M * Rushmoom Bertl: Hmm, I don't see anything suspicous... (Full output: http://42.vg/70204) 1121534929 M * Bertl okay, good ... 1121534932 M * Rushmoom Bertl: (After reproducing the issue, of course) 1121534960 M * Bertl now let's 'try' to strace the less .. ah, btw, what distro/glibc do you use? 1121534983 M * Hollow hey folks 1121534986 M * Rushmoom Bertl: Gentoo with glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1 1121535022 M * Bertl hey Hollow! 1121535045 M * Bertl Rushmoom: okay, so try with strace -fF -o less.trace less (instead of the less) 1121535055 M * Rushmoom Bertl: (On the host, on the guest system its glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1) 1121535099 M * DaPhreak Rushmoom: i guess you're seeing a broken less inside a vserver ? 1121535116 M * Bertl DaPhreak: known issue? 1121535124 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: Exactly! 1121535146 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: Flashes up quickly, then disappears and exits with statuscode 1 1121535147 M * DaPhreak yeah, known ... but never really investigated ... it stopped sometime 1121535153 M * DaPhreak yeah .. 1121535173 M * Rushmoom Bertl: "strace -fF -o less.trace /etc/hosts" just flashes up, and disappears 1121535179 M * DaPhreak Rushmoom: how do you enter the vserver ? via ssh or via vserver vps enter through the host 1121535210 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: atm ssh, but entering it causes the same bevaviour 1121535233 M * Rushmoom Bertl: But a simple "strace less /etc/hosts" gives some output 1121535259 M * Bertl Rushmoom: it writes the output to less.trace 1121535281 M * Doener Rushmoom: that's with "vserver xxx enter"? or ssh connection to the vserver? 1121535283 M * Rushmoom Bertl: Oops, already was wondering what that was for, sorry :) 1121535326 M * Doener gentoo sets LESS=-R (raw output with some tries to control the output), which probably needs access to the pty 1121535385 M * Doener hm, no... works here.. 1121535397 M * DaPhreak Rushmoom: try a env | grep ^LESS= inside the vserver 1121535404 M * DaPhreak yeah Doener, also here :) 1121535410 M * Bertl Rushmoom: okay, once you found the less.trace file :) please upload it somewhere 1121535439 M * Hollow i don't have -R in LESS= 1121535463 M * Hollow hm... 1121535468 M * Hollow on some hosts i have.. 1121535469 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@h56n2fls32o829.telia.com 1121535476 M * Rushmoom Bertl: http://www.lukas-graf-design.ch/tmp/less.trace 1121535498 M * Rushmoom Bertl: Yep, just had to configure Apache :) 1121535523 M * Rushmoom It's LESS=-R here... 1121535526 M * Bertl stat64("nter" ? what is nter? 1121535553 M * Hollow seems to depend on the less version, Rushmoom: which version do you have installed? 1121535585 M * Rushmoom Hollow: less-382-r2 1121535607 M * Hollow hm... just noticed that i overwrote LESS on some hosts... *d'oh* 1121535659 M * Bertl okay, have to leave now ... but I'll be back later ... *sorry* 1121535665 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1121535676 M * Rushmoom Doener: Right now im on a SSH Session, but the same behaviour occurs when I "vserver [server] enter" the server 1121535690 M * Rushmoom Bertl: bye 1121535705 M * DaPhreak Rushmoom: could you try to ssh directly into the vserver ? 1121535720 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: Doing this right now 1121535796 M * Rushmoom Sorry if that was unclear, at the moment, I'm on the vserver with ssh 1121535814 M * DaPhreak on the vserver or on the host ?! *g* 1121535820 M * Rushmoom Both :) 1121535827 M * Rushmoom (Different IPs) 1121535833 M * DaPhreak ah .. okee :) 1121535863 M * DaPhreak could you please do the grep *inside* the vserver ? ( env | grep LESS= ) 1121535902 M * Rushmoom Yep, th grep output *was* from inside (LESS=-R) 1121535917 M * DaPhreak only -R ?! *hmmz* 1121535930 M * Rushmoom Yes... 1121535932 Q * renihs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1121535953 M * DaPhreak Rushmoom: try a export LESS=--ignore-case --long-prompt and retry the less /etc/hosts 1121535956 M * Rushmoom Actually, that's the case on all of by gentoo boxes... 1121535980 M * Rushmoom -bash: export: `--long-prompt': not a valid identifier 1121535991 M * DaPhreak ah ... quotes ;) 1121536001 M * Rushmoom Yep, got it :) 1121536002 M * DaPhreak export LESS="--ignore-case --long-prompt" 1121536016 M * Rushmoom Still the same behaviour 1121536033 M * DaPhreak hmm .. 1121536058 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1121536166 M * Hollow oh, tomorrow will be a venerable day for DaPhreak ;) 1121536174 M * DaPhreak *ops* 1121536178 M * DaPhreak *hides* 1121536195 M * Hollow ok. I'll try and get ahold of him tomorrow. 1121536200 M * Hollow wrt to dev ;) 1121536202 M * DaPhreak heh :) 1121536220 M * DaPhreak luckily i'm on holiday now :) 1121536224 M * Hollow hehe 1121536251 M * Rushmoom I'm wondering if it's possible that the issue is related to udev / devfs stuff... 1121536295 M * DaPhreak hm are you using udev inside the vserver ?! or plain device-nodes ? 1121536300 M * Rushmoom Googling on the subject showed quite a few cases where there were somehow similar problems with "less" caused by not using udev yet... 1121536315 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: No udev 1121536323 M * DaPhreak plain dev-entry so .. 1121536327 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: I guess :) 1121536354 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: Because udev depends on baselayout, and baselayout-vserver does not seem to satisfy that dependency in portage... 1121536358 M * DaPhreak Rushmoom: by the way. are you using the _new_ stages or the old method (via stage1-ARCH.somewhat) 1121536362 M * DaPhreak ? 1121536374 M * Rushmoom The new stages from Hollow 1121536386 M * Hollow Rushmoom: baselayout-vserver satisfies virtual/baselayout with the vserver/x86 profile 1121536409 M * DaPhreak *hrm* since i remember having this with the old vservers i had .. but not with the new ones 1121536426 M * Hollow less works here too 1121536430 M * Hollow jfyi 1121536515 M * Rushmoom Hollow: Hmm, but I'm using the vserver/x86 profile.... 1121536542 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: It worked here too, for a while 1121536560 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: But the really strange thing is, what causes "less" to break 1121536569 M * Hollow the thing is, that this modified baselayout does only support plain device nodes.. every code line handling udev or devfs was removed 1121536592 M * Hollow but you should be able to emerge it anyway 1121536597 M * Rushmoom DaPhreak: Executing CA.pl for generating SSL certificates (Hangs, -> CTRL-C, afterwards less is broken. Reproducible) 1121536619 M * Rushmoom Hollow: But it would make no difference then...? 1121536631 M * Hollow indeed 1121536652 M * Rushmoom Hollow: but shouldn't baselayout-vserver block baselayout ? 1121536769 M * Rushmoom Hollow: I mean, they are serving the same purpose, and there's no point in having both of them installed, I suppose... 1121536772 M * Hollow it does: RDEPEND="... !sys-apps/baselayout ..." 1121536810 M * Rushmoom Hollow: Hmm, maybe I don't fully unterstand the conecpt of blocking in portage, but this shouldn't be possible IMHO: http://42.vg/70206 1121536843 M * Hollow right you are 1121536848 M * Hollow ;) 1121536849 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-114-40.dclient.hispeed.ch 1121536861 M * Rushmoom That was what was confusing me :) 1121536966 M * Rushmoom I'm sorry, I have to call somebody back (already delayed him 10 minutes ago when he called ;-)).. 1121536970 M * Hollow i'll take a look tomorrow... just slept 3 hrs after partying, so i'm kinda out-of-order *g* 1121536991 M * Rushmoom Hollow: Ah, that fits well :) 1121537047 M * Rushmoom Would maybe a shell account on the broken vserver be of any use to you guys? :) 1121537087 M * Hollow Rushmoom: dunno, at least not yet since the issue is present on my vservers as well, so i can investigate, but thx anyway 1121537138 M * Rushmoom Hollow: Ah, ok. 1121537169 M * Rushmoom Ok, I'll be back later then, thank you all for your time so far! 1121537205 M * Hollow sure np 1121537285 M * DaPhreak Rushmoom: 1121537292 M * DaPhreak i guess you meant this :) 1121537296 M * DaPhreak sec 1121537686 M * Rushmoom Ok, I'm off the phone, still here until 20:30 :) 1121537756 Q * eXplasm Remote host closed the connection 1121537967 J * eXplasm explasm@p549F77DF.dip.t-dialin.net 1121538689 N * Rushmoom Rush|away 1121542613 J * _are_ ~are@62.112.159.81 1121543468 J * gin_lit ~gin@gw-swsoft.ll-nsk.zsttk.ru 1121543472 M * gin_lit hi all 1121549313 M * renihs hi 1121549712 Q * nox Server closed connection 1121549826 J * TIBS01 ~stevie@80-193-4-57.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk 1121549828 M * TIBS01 ok 1121549836 M * TIBS01 i got an exploit runnining on my server 1121549848 M * TIBS01 it keeps changing the id number so i can't kill the process 1121549852 M * TIBS01 what do i type to kill it 1121549870 M * TIBS01 example root 4813 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z 21:38 0:00 [httpd2] 1121550120 M * DaPhreak the process id or the pid of the httpd2 ? 1121550135 M * DaPhreak ah .. context id or process id ? 1121550631 M * Zoiah TIBS01: find the parent, kill it. 1121550656 M * DaPhreak yeah, or even restart the vserver (thats the brutal way) 1121551135 Q * eXplasm Remote host closed the connection 1121551181 Q * TIBS01 Quit: (I was using Polaris SE) Version: 3.0. Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/Polaris_SE/. Wasted: 1 Hour 58 Minutes and 29 Seconds Online. 1121551757 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1121551788 M * Bertl evening folks! 1121551869 M * Bertl hmm, did TIBS01 play with one of the killers? 1121552305 M * DaPhreak no, only apache exploit (at least as it seems) 1121552316 M * DaPhreak morning Bertl, btw ;) 1121552448 M * Bertl morning DaPhreak! 1121552495 M * DaPhreak gonna try out -rc7 very soon :) 1121552527 M * Bertl wait for rc8 :) 1121552564 M * DaPhreak heh, well if you tell me its coming within an hour (too tired ;)) then i'll wait :) 1121552589 M * Bertl yeah, probably in an hour (or two at max) 1121552613 M * Bertl but you can basically patch it yourself right now 1121552618 M * DaPhreak yeah .. :) okee i'll wait .. but before that, i'll go to bed and sleep a bit :) 1121552627 M * Bertl i.e. use rc7 and the last 4 patches in FOR-2.0 1121552696 M * DaPhreak vs2.0-rc7.patch 1121552696 M * DaPhreak +vs2.0-bme-0.06.1.patch 1121552696 M * DaPhreak +vs2.0-debug-feat02.patch 1121552696 M * DaPhreak +vs2.0-locks-fix01.patch 1121552696 M * DaPhreak +vs2.0-tagxid-fix01.patch 1121552699 M * DaPhreak +vs2.0-xid-clean02.patch 1121552701 M * DaPhreak ? 1121552719 M * DaPhreak well ;) without the bme that would be :) 1121552789 M * DaPhreak btw Bertl, linux-2.6.12.3 seems to be out :) 1121553024 M * Bertl yeah, that's why rc8 will happen ... 1121553138 M * Bertl (well, one reason) 1121553253 M * gin_lit Bertl: hi 1121553303 M * Bertl hey gin_lit! what's up? 1121553340 M * gin_lit I have a question again :) 1121553353 M * gin_lit about COW :) 1121553363 M * Bertl let's hear! 1121553375 M * gin_lit how I can set S_COWLINK flag on some file? 1121553397 M * gin_lit setattr utility seems not supports this flag 1121553590 M * Bertl yeah, that's quite understandable ... 1121553627 M * gin_lit ? 1121553671 M * Bertl well, first, about what COW patch/implementation are we talking here? 1121553678 M * _are_ Bertl: still need someone to test some locking stuff? depending on what kind of locking I can test tomorrow 1121553680 M * gin_lit yes :) 1121553687 M * Bertl _are_: yes, sure! 1121553773 M * _are_ what is needed? I have 2 production machines with vserver for showing existing problems and tomrrow i can get an UML box running vserver-uml clients where i can experiment 1121553788 M * Bertl ah, that would be excellent! 1121553806 M * Bertl basically there are two kind of locks, flocks and posix locks 1121553818 M * Bertl (they seem to be convertable somehow) 1121553849 M * Bertl I didn't manage to find some test tool to verify that they work as expected 1121553869 M * Bertl and I do not know if the locks are accounted properly ... 1121553878 M * _are_ afaik flock and posix locking is different 1121554276 M * Bertl yep 1121554342 Q * renihs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121554392 M * FaUl Bertl: are you going to visit wth? 1121554413 M * Bertl probably not ... 1121554419 M * FaUl hmm 1121554431 M * FaUl why not? 1121554480 M * Bertl hmm, well, the netherlands are not right at my doorstep ... 1121554614 M * FaUl where exactly are you from? maybe i may organize some lift? 1121554644 M * Bertl vicinity of Vienna, Austria, Europe 1121554876 M * FaUl vicinity... hmmm 1121554902 M * gin_lit ^) 1121554927 M * Bertl FaUl: means I'm either 80km west or 100km east of the capital 1121555066 M * FaUl hmm, just trying to remember if someone i know is from there ;-) 1121555122 M * FaUl would you come if someone would take you with him by car or something? 1121555156 M * Bertl maybe, don't know yet, but I guess by car it's quite a distance ... 1121555165 M * Bertl (let me check that) 1121555207 M * FaUl it is :-) 1121555249 M * FaUl mh, but it would be nice if we can have some coding-night on wth fiddeling that ngnet-stuff to work without static arp and maybe even with ipv6-support 1121555274 M * FaUl and if i'm at home i can't kick myselfs ass to do something :-) 1121555293 M * Bertl well, I guess you have internet connectivity there 1121555300 M * Bertl and you know how to find me, no? 1121555327 M * FaUl yes, i'm pretty sure that there is ;-) 1121555359 M * FaUl but i'm not sure wether i get my ass up to code :-) 1121555426 M * Bertl roughly 1Mm 1121555510 M * FaUl hmm 1121555531 M * FaUl well, about 7 to 10 hours, depends on the car 1121555850 M * Bertl let's see, maybe something can be arranged ... 1121555913 M * Bertl Boxtel = Liempde ? 1121556038 M * FaUl hmm, dont know 1121556045 M * FaUl den bosch should also match 1121556057 M * FaUl the netherlands are not so big though 1121556092 M * Bertl well, map24 doesn't know Den Bosch for whatever reason ... 1121556139 M * FaUl but Liempde should also match 1121556170 M * FaUl liempde should match perfectly 1121556182 M * FaUl anyway, ill go to bed now, i'm horribly tired 1121556403 M * Bertl okay, night then! 1121556835 J * renihs ~renihs___@193.170.52.70 1121556854 M * Bertl welcome renihs! 1121557317 Q * renihs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1121557350 N * Rush|away Rushmoom 1121557359 M * Rushmoom good evening folks! 1121557617 M * Bertl good evening Rushmoom! 1121557623 M * Rushmoom hello Bertl! 1121558057 M * Rushmoom The "nter" thing you noticed in the strace: It really seems to have something to do with the failure 1121558104 M * Rushmoom ( http://42.vg/70234 ) It appears quite often in the output, and seems to cause many of the errors. 1121558196 M * Rushmoom To me, it somehow looks like something that is "cut off" somehow, but I must say, I really can't get out too much of strace, most things besides file access are not understandable to me... 1121558250 M * Bertl well, yeah, it 'could' be something being cut off, but the interesting question is, what did cut it off :) 1121558270 M * Rushmoom Of course, that's the main point :) 1121558307 M * Bertl what does this contain? /usr/share/misc/file/magic.mgc 1121558345 M * Rushmoom Ehh, stuff that messes up my console ;-) 1121558371 M * Bertl hmm, seems related to libmagic ...