1118967693 Q * shuri Read error: Connection reset by peer 1118968089 M * Doener mugwump: you mean the pretty high number of seconds in sys/user time? (regarding OF ticket) 1118968114 M * fwiffo ? 1118968130 M * mugwump I'm more referring to times like "1d24h" :) 1118968140 M * fwiffo ah :-) 1118968184 M * Doener ah, it's been the hours, didn't take a closer look ;) that's fixed in enrico's cvs version... 1118968197 M * mugwump ok cool 1118968227 M * mugwump enrico's cvs should be in the OSSF too 1118968239 A * Doener wishes for 60 hour days anyways 1118968272 M * Doener ah right, the latest sync was less than 3 weeks ago... 1118968290 M * mugwump those are easy, just form a superposition of yourself which can collapse into other vessels that you communicate with 1118968506 A * mugwump re-runs his automatic CVS -> svn merge script 1118968562 M * fwiffo erm, where did your conversation start? 1118968564 M * fwiffo O_o 1118968644 A * mugwump points fwiffo at http://rt.openfoundry.org/Foundry/Project/Tracker/?Queue=332 1118968670 M * fwiffo ah, i didn't read thet "(regarding OF ticket)", sorry ;-) 1118968680 M * Doener conversation started in my inbox ;) 1118968768 M * Doener hell, just about small nodes in an xml document that should go into some mysql database and it takes ages using php5's dom support... 1118968799 M * Doener s/about/about 50k/ 1118968803 A * mugwump shudders at the mention of php 1118968823 M * fwiffo hehehe 1118968834 M * Doener prefer to read some perl? 1118968847 M * fwiffo ;-) 1118968852 M * fwiffo perl is "magic" ;-) 1118968882 M * fwiffo it's so "magic" that the writer of her/his own code can't read it after some day's ;-) 1118968886 M * Doener yep, even root can't read perl scripts... it has to be magic ;) 1118968928 M * fwiffo i stopped coding perl 4 years ago 1118968947 M * fwiffo switching to python, and for small scripts: plain sh 1118968952 M * Doener i never dared to learn perl... too scary ;) 1118968965 M * fwiffo networking stuff is great to solve in awk :-) 1118968997 M * fwiffo you lucky... 1118969040 M * Doener what i really need to learn to use better is sed... 1118969044 M * fwiffo my sed code is even more readable ;-) 1118969051 M * fwiffo :-) 1118969055 M * fwiffo yeah, sed rocks =) 1118969065 A * fwiffo would die without it 1118969109 A * fwiffo would die withaut regular expressions 1118969120 M * fwiffo s/au/ou/ 1118969157 M * mugwump I don't mind python, it's just the "this language was invented purely because I didn't like Perl" syndrome it suffers from 1118969163 M * mugwump (php, that is) 1118969166 M * Doener i'm only really using sed for s/// stuff atm, vim _can_ do the rest, but lately i get big files (0.5 - 1GB) and working with those in vim isn't always fun 1118969198 M * fwiffo ;-) 1118969253 M * Doener is there something like \@! or \_. in sed? 1118969280 M * fwiffo mugwump: yeah, but then you could say that php is a cereal-overeater language ;-) 1118969320 M * fwiffo nope 1118969359 M * mugwump as in, people who like to overeat cereal like php? 1118969365 M * Doener 15 minutes and only half-way through... 1118969405 M * fwiffo mugwump: nono, meaning php's for weenies... 1118969423 M * fwiffo but it's not the language ;-) 1118969453 M * fwiffo it's the community which kills a programming language 1118969530 M * fwiffo Doener: hm? 1118969545 M * fwiffo ah, your mysql and php thingy... 1118969552 M * Doener yep 1118969554 M * fwiffo :-D 1118969575 M * Doener interesting... 40mb xml file and php is currently using 160mb memory... 1118969593 M * fwiffo it's processing the xml file, right? 1118969601 M * fwiffo or just reading as plain/text? 1118969611 M * fwiffo text/plain, sorry ;-) 1118969640 M * Doener it's processed and represented as a dom tree... but i wouldn't have expected such an overhead... 1118969690 M * Doener guess a regexp would've been way faster... i don't need semantics anyways... 1118969736 M * fwiffo don't know much about php5 1118969778 M * fwiffo and don't _want_ to know much about mysql *g* 1118969861 M * fwiffo hm, hungry... 1118969869 M * fwiffo bbl 1118969870 M * Doener i'm not doing that for myself, so i had little choice regarding the database 1118969881 M * fwiffo oh yeah... 1118969903 M * fwiffo that's because i don't _want_ to know anything about mysql 1118969922 M * fwiffo i had to do something which should be dbms-independant... 1118969950 M * fwiffo "independant" means: even for mysql v3 1118970036 M * Doener OUCH! 1118970069 M * fwiffo that's been fun =) 1118970146 M * fwiffo ... and pesky workarounds, which ended up in things like invoking several sql commands which i usually do in one command using postgresql 1118970212 M * Doener yep, you end up with really huge joins with mysql (if you can do it with joins at all...) 1118970227 M * Doener (or what to do that...) 1118970229 M * fwiffo yeah, but not if you use temporary tables ;-) 1118970270 M * fwiffo or even better: try to use two auto_increment fields... 1118970391 M * fwiffo oh, sorry: one auto_increment and a auto_decrement (which imho doesn't exist in mysql) 1118970407 M * Doener try to use conditions that can't be checked by using only one key... 1118970431 M * fwiffo hehe 1118970484 M * Doener "Why should I check one key and then the other one against the matches? I'll do the second condition without a key..." yeah, thanks... 1118970493 M * fwiffo :-) 1118970518 M * fwiffo yeah, that's always funny... 1118970555 M * mugwump OTOH mysql beat Pg, Oracle and SQLite on solving the SEND + MORE = MONEY problem 1118970566 M * fwiffo even funnier if you're werking for one week, and you're working just to make workarounds for mysql ;-) 1118970602 M * fwiffo hehe, and i always wondered why they didn't introduce the "money" data type 1118970661 M * Doener hm, didn't get that one, i guess... 1118970707 M * fwiffo k, now it's time to "eat" another coffin nail :-) 1118970722 M * fwiffo brb 1118970790 M * mugwump http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/wellington-pm/2005-March/000299.html # solve SEND + MORE = MONEY with SQL :) 1118970916 M * mugwump mysql solves that one real fast, like a few hundred milliseconds on a slow machine. SQLite took 30s! 1118971975 M * fwiffo oh, that wasn't a joke O_o 1118972315 M * Doener i'm off to bed, got to get up in 4 hours... have a good one! 1118972320 N * Doener Doener_zZz 1118972332 M * fwiffo good night doener 1118977184 Q * locksy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1118977361 M * fwiffo uh... 1118977368 M * fwiffo muuuuuch work to do... 1118977855 M * fwiffo for example: inheritance of rbac rules within contexts... 1118978031 J * eXplasm explasm@p549F762D.dip.t-dialin.net 1118978107 M * fwiffo hullo eXplasm 1118978166 M * fwiffo lwhois eXplasm eXplasm 1118978176 M * fwiffo whoops 1118978179 M * fwiffo :-D 1118979702 J * Doener` ~doener@p54876E3C.dip.t-dialin.net 1118979727 Q * eXplasm Remote host closed the connection 1118979828 Q * fwiffo Quit: leaving 1118980157 Q * Doener_zZz Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1118981325 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1118983754 Q * Hunger uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net 1118983906 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1118983930 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@LevNor.Hu 1118990308 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1118990403 P * jsambrook 1118990667 Q * mountie Remote host closed the connection 1118992188 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1118992642 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1118993601 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1118994035 J * alexx ~alexx@84.4.2.227 1118994827 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1118994881 M * Aiken on alpha I have lockfile segfaulting when compiled against dietlibc but it seems fine when compiled against glibc 1118995686 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1118996350 Q * rs Quit: rs 1118996762 J * frealek ~nobo@4va54-1-81-56-99-20.fbx.proxad.net 1118997491 J * alex|ikse ~alexx@82.225.136.176 1118997900 Q * alexx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1118999781 Q * TheSeer Remote host closed the connection 1119000147 J * rs ~rs@ATuileries-153-1-20-94.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr 1119000284 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1119001286 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1119001487 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-027.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1119001495 N * Doener` Doener|gone 1119002023 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp1-232.ethz.ch 1119002080 Q * as Remote host closed the connection 1119002592 M * gregster hi 1119002797 M * TheSeer gna.. 1119002817 M * TheSeer what's the point of the /.rpmdb directory? 1119002853 M * TheSeer the stuff in there is seriously outdated and not linked to any actual setup other then what MIGHT be installed locally in case you'd have rpm installed 1119002853 M * daniel_hozac isn't that where the external RPM database is stored by the utils? 1119002867 M * TheSeer well if it is it's out of sync 1119002886 M * TheSeer since vrpm host -- -qa != rpm -qa 1119002954 M * TheSeer i do have /etc/vservers/build/apps/pkgmgmt/base/rpm/state 1119002963 M * daniel_hozac well, it'll only be up to date if you're using the externalized package management. 1119002983 M * TheSeer erm..? 1119003010 M * TheSeer if the rpmdb for vrpm/vapt-get/* is in /etc/vservers/build/apps/pkgmgmt/base/rpm/state of the host 1119003022 M * TheSeer what is /.rpmdb in the guest for then? 1119003034 M * TheSeer since it's definitly not the same files 1119003071 M * maharaja hi 1119003088 M * maharaja are there any serious bugs in vs1.9.5 ? 1119003100 M * maharaja like ip adress conflicts, etc? 1119003144 M * daniel_hozac i have to admit that i have never used the external package management, so i don't really know how it works. 1119003225 M * TheSeer maharaja: ip conflicts don't have anything to do with vserver but user error ;> 1119004354 Q * frealek Quit: bbl 1119005733 M * maharaja i found the error, thnx 1119005771 M * maharaja another problem is with the pipe 1119005772 M * maharaja : 1119005773 M * maharaja # echo "test"|grep -i es 1119005773 M * maharaja -bash: child setpgid (13426 to 13425): Operation not permitted 1119005777 M * maharaja any hings? 1119005779 M * maharaja hints 1119005930 M * TheSeer where does that happen? 1119006856 J * rs_ ~rs@ATuileries-153-1-28-152.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr 1119007224 Q * rs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1119008285 Q * serving- Read error: Connection reset by peer 1119008324 J * serving ~serving@217.164.247.223 1119008443 Q * rs_ Quit: rs_ 1119008654 J * sukria ~sukria@213.223.184.205 1119009134 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1119009227 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1119009320 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1119010871 J * greedy ~jesper@0x503e3545.arcnxx21.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk 1119011212 M * Hollow http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vserver-howto.xml ;) 1119011298 M * Loki|muh yeah, you made it in the official documentation? 1119011300 M * Loki|muh grats 1119011383 M * Hollow thx :) 1119014075 Q * ruuth Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1119014364 J * eXplasm explasm@p549F762D.dip.t-dialin.net 1119014410 J * rs ~rs@ATuileries-153-1-28-152.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr 1119014585 Q * sukria Quit: Going back to real life 1119014585 Q * rs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1119014763 J * rs ~rs@ATuileries-153-1-28-152.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr 1119014840 J * ruuth ~ruuth@p549C83E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1119016854 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1119016866 M * Bertl morning folks! 1119016888 M * aba Hi Bertl 1119016906 M * Bertl hey aba! how are you? 1119016921 M * aba fine. Sarge is out. :) 1119016926 M * aba and you? 1119016943 M * Bertl really? well, I know, I know ... 1119016963 M * aba hey, I'm starting with etch release planings already :P 1119016967 M * Bertl I'm fine ... 1119016989 M * Bertl aba: well, IMHO the main objective should be to 'fix' the sarge release of linux-vserver ... 1119017017 M * aba for the vserver-view: yes. For the release-team: perhaps :) 1119017045 M * Bertl yeah, but it's natural that I have the vserver view, no? 1119017058 M * aba yes, of course. 1119017466 M * BWare Morning Bertl 1119017484 M * Bertl morning BWare! 1119017493 M * Hollow hey Bertl 1119017556 M * Bertl hey Hollow! 1119017573 M * Hollow did you take a look at the gentoo template? 1119017579 Q * DaPhreak Quit: Switching servers ;P 1119017613 M * Bertl Hollow: hmm, I knew I forgot something, the one which didn't reboot? 1119017637 M * Hollow sync timeout on shutdown 1119017664 M * Bertl how was the file/archive called again? 1119017707 M * Hollow http://dev.gentoo.org/~hollow/vserver/gentoo-template.tar.bz2 1119017719 Q * rs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1119017730 M * Bertl ah, gentoo-template thanks ... give a minute to install it ... 1119018044 J * rs ~rs@ATuileries-153-1-28-152.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr 1119018286 M * Bertl Hollow: okay, a skeleton line for that one? 1119018292 M * Hollow yep 1119018300 M * Hollow plain init style 1119018362 M * Bertl could you paste it here? 1119018430 M * Hollow http://home.xnull.de/misc/gentoo.tar.bz2 1119018467 M * Bertl hmm, I meant the vserver build ... line 1119018549 M * Hollow vserver gentoo build -m skeleton --hostname gentoo --context 3253 --interface gentoo=eth0:192.168.3.253/24 --initstyle plain 1119018750 M * Bertl okay, guest has started, what now? 1119018755 M * Hollow stop it 1119018756 M * Hollow ;) 1119018770 M * Hollow you should get a timeout then 1119018852 M * Bertl yes 1119018862 M * Bertl A timeout or other error occured while waiting for the synchronization 1119018862 M * Bertl signal from vserver 'gentoo'. 1119018862 M * Bertl The vserver will be killed nevertheless... 1119018862 M * Bertl Fri Jun 17 16:39:01 CEST 2005 killContext started 1119018862 M * Bertl Fri Jun 17 16:39:01 CEST 2005 killContext finished 1119018865 M * Bertl Fri Jun 17 16:39:06 CEST 2005 killContext started 1119018868 M * Bertl Fri Jun 17 16:39:06 CEST 2005 killContext finished 1119018873 M * Bertl it is killed after that, so? 1119018900 M * Hollow exactly 1119018974 M * Hollow sometimes it also says "Vserver '/etc/vservers/gentoo' still running unexpectedly; please investigate it manually..." 1119018995 M * Bertl did you try with my tools hacks? 1119019001 M * Hollow yup 1119019002 M * Vudumen hi Bertl 1119019005 M * Vudumen sun is up again 1119019007 M * Bertl Hollow: and? 1119019017 M * Hollow it added the output with "killContext" etc 1119019025 M * Bertl Vudumen: ah, thanks! 'up again' means= 1119019030 M * Bertl s/=/?/ 1119019040 M * Vudumen i disabled shorewall because it didn't find all required modules and we had an empty input chain with default policy DROP 1119019054 M * Vudumen (disabled == i wrote exit 0 to /etc/init.d/shorewall :) 1119019095 M * Bertl ah, okay, maybe chkconfig --del shorewall would have been an option too ... 1119019130 M * Vudumen hmm lets try it :) 1119019186 M * Vudumen shit i cannot access it 1119019188 M * Vudumen go back to console 1119019282 J * shuri shuri@64.235.209.226 1119019341 M * shuri hi 1119019374 M * Bertl hey shuri! LTNS! 1119019403 M * shuri i was here yesterday :) 1119019499 M * Bertl did we talk? 1119019529 M * shuri nop 1119019546 M * shuri anyway nice to see you :) 1119019563 J * knoppix_ ~knoppix@dsl-082-082-082-173.arcor-ip.net 1119019577 M * Bertl shuri: the pleasure is all mine ... 1119019591 M * Vudumen Bertl: now it's really okay i hope :) 1119019597 M * Vudumen please check it 1119019628 M * Bertl Hollow: well, the guest seems to 'hang' on shutdown ... that's probably something inside the scripts or maybe my hack isn't sufficient for this/the gentoo setup 1119019637 M * Bertl Vudumen: thanks, will check it ... 1119019651 M * Bertl Vudumen: yup, seems reachable quite fine 1119019671 M * Vudumen fine :) 1119019778 Q * stegbth Quit: Client exiting 1119019871 M * Hollow Bertl: how can i find out? for what is the script waiting for? 1119019890 M * Bertl don't know, will investigate ... 1119020043 M * Hollow thx 1119020868 M * Vudumen Bertl: do you know anything about the new ngnet? 1119021040 M * Bertl it's work in progess ... 1119021151 M * brc bertl 1119021158 M * brc is it possible o have user quotas in 2.6 ? 1119021167 M * brc if not, do you suggest any other solution? 1119021249 M * Bertl it is possible, as long as you do not want to use a shared partition 1119021351 M * brc i should have each vserver on a differente partition, right ? 1119021467 M * Bertl yes, for 2.0 this is required right now ... 1119021484 M * Bertl (if there is enough demand, which I doubt, we'll add support for shared quota) 1119021509 M * Hollow doesn't shared quota work with the vroot device? 1119021555 M * Bertl no, it requires a kernel patch, which doesn't exist yet ... 1119021568 M * Bertl the vroot device is required for all quota stuff to be secure 1119021576 M * Hollow ah ok 1119021700 Q * shuri Remote host closed the connection 1119021864 Q * BWare Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11 1119022012 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1119022237 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119022304 Q * DaPhreak Quit: 1119022974 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119023005 Q * eXplasm Remote host closed the connection 1119023037 J * eXplasm explasm@p549F762D.dip.t-dialin.net 1119023335 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1119023588 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119023649 Q * DaPhreak Quit: 1119023761 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119023961 M * kevinp Hi all! 1119024000 M * kevinp Is there a startup/shutdown init script for starting and stopping all vservers on a box that comes with the utils? 1119024005 Q * DaPhreak Quit: 1119024089 M * kevinp I found start-vservers but it doesn't take the right arguements for automatic shutdown, etc 1119024149 M * daniel_hozac vservers-default 1119024157 M * kevinp I put the line "/usr/lib/util-vserver/start-vservers --start --all" in rc.local 1119024166 M * daniel_hozac it'll only handle vservers with apps/init/mark == default though. 1119024213 M * kevinp I don't see that one in /usr/lib/util-vserver? 1119024247 M * daniel_hozac it should've been installed into /etc/init.d. 1119024272 M * kevinp ok, found it 1119024280 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119024439 Q * DaPhreak Quit: 1119024458 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119024478 M * DaPhreak finally :) 1119024482 M * kevinp I like the mark idea, then I can disable certain vservers 1119024491 M * Bertl DaPhreak: congrats! 1119024496 M * DaPhreak thanks ;) 1119024616 M * Hollow ha 1119024619 M * Hollow xnull.. 1119024620 M * Hollow :P 1119024626 M * Hollow good old styx :P 1119024651 M * DaPhreak ;P 1119025352 M * kevinp Everything works great with the init script, except for one thing 1119025414 M * kevinp When I leave vservers running and reboot, /boot & /vservers do not cleanly unmount 1119025440 M * kevinp If I stop them first manually it does. Is it possible the shutdown script is not finishing in time? 1119025487 M * kevinp according to boot.log vserver-wrapper reports back succeeded, but I wonder if it really is finished 1119025535 M * Bertl might be, synchronization is a little broken in 0.30.207 1119025673 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1119025676 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119025972 M * kevinp thanks daniel_hozac, I added the info to my centos-howto 1119026083 Q * brc Quit: [BX] For a good time, call 1-900-4BitchX 1119026180 J * brc bruce@200141099215.user.veloxzone.com.br 1119026203 Q * DaPhreak Quit: leaving 1119026204 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@styx.xnull.de 1119027092 Q * eXplasm Remote host closed the connection 1119027864 M * micah where can I find the valid options for vserver build? 1119027885 M * Pazzo vserver - build --help ? 1119027917 M * micah perfect, thanks I knew it was somewhere :) 1119028709 J * eXplasm explasm@p549F762D.dip.t-dialin.net 1119029150 Q * prae Quit: Execute Order 69 ! 1119029695 Q * rs Quit: rs 1119030445 Q * eXplasm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1119031319 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1119031532 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU 1119031615 M * mef bertl: hello 1119031628 M * Bertl aloha mef! 1119031635 M * mef Are you in Hawaii? 1119031645 M * Bertl no, but I'm leaving any minute :) 1119031647 M * mef Or can you see that I am wearing a Hawaiian shirt right now? 1119031663 M * mef Which Island are you heading to? 1119031702 M * Bertl not havaii, just to vienna *G* 1119031710 M * mef oh 1119031722 M * Bertl i.e. I will be back tonight ... 1119031722 M * mef I am heading to hawaii next Friday.... can't wait! 1119031741 M * mef a'ight 1119031746 M * Bertl okay, folks, have a nice one everyone ... cya later ... 1119031760 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1119033237 Q * mef Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10 1119034823 N * Doener|gone Doener 1119034847 M * eyck vienna, isn't it even more expensive then hawaii? 1119035255 M * Doener vienna, the capital of austria? i don't think it is that expensive... and Bertl lives there, or at least close to it ;) 1119035268 M * albeiro depends where youy live eyck ;) 1119035346 M * eyck poland, viena is mighty expensive from here 1119035349 M * eyck nna 1119035584 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1119036327 M * Doener hm, so now openbsd and linux folks have to hate each other? http://www.forbes.com/intelligentinfrastructure/2005/06/16/linux-bsd-unix-cz_dl_0616theo.html 1119036612 A * FaUl remebers himself about this nice mousepad with "FreeBSD - Because Theo is an Asshole" on it 1119036695 M * Doener no, he's "difficult" ;) 1119036730 M * Doener maybe he has one, but i don't want to check that out... really ;) 1119036738 M * FaUl my opinion differs to linus' :-) 1119036835 J * tbenita ~tbenita@atreal.net2.nerim.net 1119036874 M * FaUl in fact i'm not using OpenBSD because of him 1119036956 M * tbenita Hi, is there any issue with squid and vserver2 ? 1119037120 M * Doener at least no known ones 1119037199 M * tbenita thx Doener 1119038248 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1119038486 Q * rs Quit: rs 1119039680 Q * tbenita Quit: Leaving 1119040486 M * eyck linus is not that easy either, what about all that bitkeeper fiasco, he's not vulgar, but I'd prefer Theo's straigh-to-the-point attitude 1119040562 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1119041025 J * list ~list@p508CAF6D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1119041026 M * list hi 1119041082 M * list how can i increase the size of /tmp in a vserver? 1119041110 M * Doener new style configuration? i.e. directory based? 1119041116 M * list i want to add 300 pictures to my gallery and they're cached in /tmp, after 20 pics the it's full :/ 1119041131 M * list Jepp 1119041150 M * aba FaUl: I can remeber the shirts "5 years without one remote clue in the default maintainer" 1119041191 M * Doener there's a fstag in the configuration. by default it contains a tmpfs entry for /tmp in the vserver. either change that to be bigger, remove it or have it mount something else instead 1119041196 M * Doener s/fstag/fstab/ 1119041210 M * list Doener: i see 1119041214 M * list Doener: found it too 1119041224 M * list Doener: that was quiet simple ;) 1119041228 M * list thx anyway 1119041234 M * Doener you're welcome 1119041250 M * list hmm. can i remount /tmp on the fly? i don't want to reboot the vserver 1119041302 M * Doener hm, dunno if you can change tmpfs size on the fly, replacing the mount probably needs a lazy umount 1119041335 M * list # mount -o remount /tmp 1119041337 M * list mount: permission denied 1119041337 M * list hmm 1119041344 M * Doener you have to do that from the host 1119041367 M * Doener as you're probably using namespaces, read this first: 1119041372 A * Doener searches for the doc... 1119041385 M * Doener http://linux-vserver.org/Namespaces 1119041388 M * list This tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755) or that one: tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) ? 1119041391 M * list ok 1119041407 M * FaUl aba: AOL 1119041431 M * list Doener: Ah, cool feature 1119041468 M * Doener hm, those two are probably tmpfs mounted in the host's namespace, right? 1119041529 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1119041549 M * list jep, these two are mounted on the host server 1119041825 M * list With vnamespace -e vserver1 umount /tmp i get the error: umount: /tmp: not mounted 1119041899 M * daniel_hozac /vservers//tmp 1119041949 M * Doener vnamespace only enters the namespace, not the chroot environment 1119041965 M * list daniel_hozac: didn't work too, i tried it 1119041995 M * list umount: /home/vservers/vserver1/tmp: device is busy 1119042005 M * Doener it's in use ;) 1119042010 M * list so there's still use .. 1119042012 M * list jep 1119042031 M * Doener lazy umount will detach it anyways, but you might experience problems... 1119042042 A * list will look at it with lsof 1119042058 M * list look, decide, destroy ;) 1119042072 M * Doener as the old stuff is no longer reachable, f.e. lockfiles in there might get racy 1119042101 M * Doener (first process creates lockfile in old /tmp, second process search in new /tmp) 1119042117 M * list Only ssh-agent is using it, so this should not be a big problem ;) 1119042146 M * Doener yup 1119042205 M * list hm, i unmounted it, but it still shows up in the vserver :/ 1119042220 M * Doener hm, the bind mount... 1119042245 M * Doener maybe? 1119042274 M * Doener hm, wait... shows up like "mount shows it"? 1119042335 M * Doener don't trust mount, it just outputs the stuff from /etc/mtab. check /proc/mounts 1119042894 M * list jepp. mount ;) 1119042945 M * list hm 1119042955 M * list i'll try the upload again 1119043436 M * list Works. Cool. 1119043471 M * list mount shows 16mb, du -hs . in the dir shows 64mb, the du -hs on the host shows 265mb - yeah. ;-)) 1119043652 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1119043681 M * list gn8 1119043682 Q * list Quit: leaving 1119044589 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1119046355 M * kevinp I am trying to move an old style vserver to a new server that is running the latest. I moved the server over using tar, the vserver starts fine and the web server on it is running fine, but I can't use rpm 1119046415 M * kevinp If I try rpm -qa on the old box it works fine, but the new box gives db4 vs db3 errors 1119046429 M * kevinp Is this a common problem or know issue? 1119046567 Q * rs Quit: rs 1119046776 M * kevinp I tried LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.27, which is what the kernel was before, but still get the same errors 1119046823 M * Doener sounds like rpmdb version change 1119046880 M * kevinp right, but I didn't upgrade the rpmdb or anything, it should have copied over from the old server 1119046936 M * kevinp I tried rebuilding it now with the assume and it gives an "unable to join the environment" error 1119047260 M * Doener http://lists.planet-lab.org/pipermail/devel-community/2004-October/000237.html 1119047379 M * kevinp funny, I was just looking at that one, but doesn't it give the same solution that I've tried? 1119047406 J * derin ~Miranda@85.96.229.173 1119047449 M * kevinp Does it have to be set to a certain kernel version? 1119047453 M * Doener it uses an even older kernel version 1119047510 M * kevinp true 1119047532 M * kevinp I was just rereading bertl's ML post from earlier this week and it had 2.4.19 1119047767 P * derin 1119048174 M * kevinp found the answer: http://www.clarkconnect.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=sysadmin&Number=67910&Main=67872 1119048194 M * kevinp Adding the line to the macro.specspo fixed it 1119048270 M * Doener good! :) 1119050999 M * kevinp Is there a quick fix to get old style vservers' name to show in the new vserver-stat? 1119051142 M * Doener are you using dynamic contexts? 1119051162 M * Doener static contexts work IIRC 1119051177 M * kevinp static 1119051222 M * kevinp I remember reading about it once, but can't find it now 1119051237 M * Doener ok, than neither works :( don't know any fix for that... 1119051244 M * kevinp ok, thanks 1119051245 M * Doener s/than/then/ 1119051311 M * kevinp have a good weekend! 1119051317 N * kevinp kevinp|gone 1119051960 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1119051978 M * Bertl back now ...