1118707206 M * pattieja_ I suppose if I have to, I have firewall rules in place that should block incoming attempts from accessing ports 10024 and 10025 if I can bind amavisd-new and Postfix to the IP address of the server instead of localhost
1118710837 J * explasm__ explasm@p549F7E9A.dip.t-dialin.net
1118711276 Q * eXplasm2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118711505 Q * Val Quit: zZz (bye)
1118713650 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1118713842 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-167.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1118713877 M * Aiken I am using nvida drivers 6693 with windows
1118713885 M * Aiken whoops, wrong tab  :(
1118714601 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1118714678 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-167.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1118719367 J * nokoya young@219.83.23.64
1118719585 Q * nokoya Quit: 
1118721442 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1118721666 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-167.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1118722327 J * matti_ matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1118722363 Q * matti Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118722368 N * matti_ matti
1118729437 J * kjo_ ~krischan@p5484E67D.dip.t-dialin.net
1118732381 J * kjo ~krischan@p5484E67D.dip.t-dialin.net
1118732466 Q * kjo_ Quit: Verlassend
1118733213 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org
1118733729 M * SiD3WiNDR pattieja_: inside vserver you cannot reach localhost on the host
1118734243 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection
1118734473 Q * kjo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118734640 M * pusling which file systems are supported in a vserver ? Ext3 are, but what about reiserfs and xfs ?
1118734728 M * eyck RR
1118735112 M * SiD3WiNDR any fs that's supported by the host afaik?
1118735396 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118736469 M * eyck not always, 
1118736482 M * eyck you're limited by the barrier support AFAIK,
1118736546 M * eyck although for non-production purposes any will do
1118737037 M * SiD3WiNDR ah true
1118740979 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
1118741619 J * stephen- ~steve@83.142.225.168
1118741620 M * stephen- hi all
1118741650 M * stephen- I'm followign the centos 4 howto, but I've hit a problem - when I try to create a test vserver I get this error:
1118741650 M * stephen- Config Error: Error accessing file for config file:///usr/local/etc/vservers/min-centos4/apps/pkgmgmt/base/yum/etc/yum.conf
1118741657 M * stephen- any ideas?
1118742141 Q * stephen- Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118742316 J * stephen- ~steve@83.142.225.168
1118744504 Q * rs Quit: rs
1118745888 J * Doener` ~doener@p54877941.dip.t-dialin.net
1118746278 M * stephen- any ideas guys?
1118746281 M * stephen- Config Error: Error accessing file for config file:///usr/local/etc/vservers/min-centos4/apps/pkgmgmt/base/yum/etc/yum.conf
1118746293 M * stephen- when I try to create a centos4 vserver, I've followed the centos4 howto
1118746323 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118747955 M * daniel_hozac stephen-: does that file exist?
1118748137 J * steve-^ ~steve@83.142.225.168
1118748248 Q * stephen- Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118749438 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118749639 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1118751671 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1118751710 M * Bertl morning folks!
1118751798 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
1118751871 M * DaPhreak morning Bertl :)
1118751882 M * Bertl hey rs! DaPhreak!
1118751893 M * rs hi there
1118751908 M * DaPhreak Bertl: the update to .207 went to the good .. now everything is back working .. :) finally ..
1118751921 M * Bertl good!
1118751972 M * DaPhreak yup .. but i would like to know more about that message .. what exactly could cause such an error ? (or what does that warning about "version mismatch" mean)
1118752180 M * Bertl well, you have to dig into the tools I guess ...
1118752185 M * Bertl (source code)
1118752337 Q * matti uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * serving- uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * Hunger uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * pusling uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * stegbth uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * case uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * SNy uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * ola_ uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * virtuoso uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * alexx uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * gregster uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * Pazzo uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * DaCa uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752337 Q * eyck uranium.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1118752342 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1118752345 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@LevNor.Hu
1118752348 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1118752348 J * case ~case@donpanic.faveve.uni-stuttgart.de
1118752349 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de
1118752352 J * pusling ~pusling@cpe.atm4-0-7285.0x50c44806.boanxx19.customer.tele.dk
1118752355 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org
1118752359 J * fwiffo ~mmrnmrhm@p5499C39A.dip.t-dialin.net
1118752360 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it
1118752362 J * MrX freebsd@219.95.10.136
1118752366 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1118752367 J * stegbth ~stegbth@stegbth.sim.tronicplanet.de
1118752368 M * fwiffo moin again ;-)
1118752370 J * serving ~serving@217.164.253.184
1118752388 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176
1118752430 M * fwiffo does someone have something like a example grsec2 policy for vserver?
1118752471 J * IceTi 125@mw635449.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
1118752473 M * IceTi hi
1118752478 M * fwiffo 'lo
1118752485 M * IceTi i´ve some new question :-)
1118752503 M * IceTi how many vServer can I install on a RootserveR? is there a limit???
1118752503 M * fwiffo yeah, don't hesitate ;-)
1118752518 M * fwiffo i guess no ;-)
1118752530 M * IceTi just a hardware limit ithink? right?
1118752535 M * fwiffo yeah
1118752542 M * daniel_hozac well, you'll run out of contexts.
1118752554 M * IceTi how many vserver work with no problems ??
1118752556 M * IceTi 50 ??
1118752568 M * IceTi 10 ??
1118752570 M * fwiffo dunno, never reached a limit ;-)
1118752593 M * daniel_hozac that depends on your hardware as well as your vservers.
1118752597 M * fwiffo hrm, currently i've 24 vservers running, so i guess it's >10 ;-)
1118752598 M * IceTi ok
1118752609 M * IceTi and another question
1118752637 J * SNy ~mfr@bmx-chemnitz.de
1118752637 J * ola ~ola@c-adt-5.ataco.se
1118752668 M * fwiffo yeah?
1118752670 M * IceTi how is the allocation wirrh the processor time? what if i have one vserver which need very much resources ??
1118752681 M * IceTi i one vserve need all??
1118752701 M * TheSeer IceTi: you have ulimit for that
1118752712 M * IceTi ulimt?
1118752720 M * TheSeer yeah.. at least to some extend..
1118752727 J * Panther_1 ~ruben@work.freenet-ag.de
1118752747 M * IceTi ok with this i can also assign hardisk space righT?
1118752748 M * Panther_1 hy
1118752752 M * IceTi und procesor time too?
1118752770 M * fwiffo 'lo panther
1118752778 M * TheSeer no
1118752782 M * IceTi no?
1118752784 M * TheSeer harddisc space is quota
1118752795 M * IceTi quato ? not vdlimit ???
1118752829 M * TheSeer vdlimit is a tool to configure quota ;>
1118752838 M * IceTi ahh ok
1118752840 M * IceTi cool
1118752842 M * daniel_hozac well, disk limits and quota are two separate things ;)
1118752852 M * Panther_1 is there a way to run openvpn ( server) in an vserver? 
1118752853 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: don't confuse him ;)
1118752862 M * TheSeer Panther_1: sure..
1118752867 M * TheSeer Panther_1: just start it ;>
1118752896 M * IceTi ok i sumurize: vdlimt/quota is for diskspace and ulimt fpr processor time?? but what is when I don´t have make any configure with this how is the procesor time then ??
1118752909 M * fwiffo ah, yes, back to my question again *g* does there exist a good doc for grsec and vserver?
1118752921 M * fwiffo vserver 2 and grsec 2
1118752929 M * TheSeer IceTi: there are some reasonable (?) defaults for the cpu stuff..
1118752929 M * Panther_1 TheSeer: I need no cap's it can crette the tun/tap interfases in the vserver?
1118752958 M * IceTi TheSeer Yes ??
1118752984 M * TheSeer Panther_1: hmm.. haven't tried that yet actually.. give it a try?
1118752998 M * fwiffo Panther_1: uh, that could be a problem, but if you declare the tuntap iface on the hast, it should work
1118753008 M * fwiffo host
1118753056 M * steve-^ I'm followign the centos 4 howto, but I've hit a problem - when I try to create a test vserver I get this error:
1118753057 M * fwiffo imho inside the vserver you cannot set up interfaces, except if you use ngnet
1118753059 M * steve-^ Config Error: Error accessing file for config file:///usr/local/etc/vservers/min-centos4/apps/pkgmgmt/base/yum/etc/yum.conf
1118753070 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: the tun/tap will be create from openvpn
1118753123 M * TheSeer isn't a tun/tap device pure software?
1118753123 M * fwiffo Panther_1: yes, so you probably have to get openvpn for _using_ a specific device rather than setting up itself
1118753131 M * TheSeer i mean.. it's not bound to a physical resource
1118753134 M * fwiffo like the nodev option in the vserver interfaces conf ;-)
1118753141 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: http://linux-vserver.org/Todo+List seems that it doesnt run:  making the possibility for running OpenVPN? www.openvpn.net inside a vserver and/or giving the vserver user the option of creating virtual network interfaces
1118753146 M * IceTi ook
1118753154 M * IceTi my last quesation for today ;-)
1118753169 M * IceTi can I shutdown a vserver?? when I am in a vservER??
1118753169 M * fwiffo Panther_1: hm...
1118753191 M * TheSeer no
1118753195 M * IceTi no?
1118753196 M * fwiffo Panther_1: maybe i should try...
1118753216 M * TheSeer IceTi: a vserver is merely more then its own virtual context
1118753231 M * TheSeer IceTi: if no process is running within that context, the vserver is "down"
1118753237 M * fwiffo Panther_1: so that's because ngnet exists, but its currently broken
1118753243 M * TheSeer IceTi: beeing IN the vserver you prohbit that ;>
1118753262 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: i have seen it 
1118753263 M * TheSeer IceTi: you can kill all processes in that vserver and with loging out, you sort of shutdown the server
1118753278 M * IceTi hm
1118753293 M * TheSeer IceTi: it's like an automated lights off when the last one leaves the room ;>
1118753299 M * IceTi ok when no process i running the vserver i down ??
1118753301 M * Bertl IceTi, TheSeer: yes you can shitdown it from inside
1118753307 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: I must reinstall my vserver and put it on 2.6 kernel which patch ist the most stable? 2.0rc4?
1118753307 M * Bertl *shutdown ;)
1118753318 M * TheSeer Bertl: nice typo ;>
1118753321 M * fwiffo Panther_1: errr...
1118753340 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: what?
1118753345 M * Bertl TheSeer: yeah shut happens *G*
1118753350 M * TheSeer hehe
1118753350 M * fwiffo Panther_1: as said, it's broken, is it yet? (bertl?)
1118753351 M * IceTi ??
1118753363 M * IceTi can i also make a solaris vserver?
1118753374 M * fwiffo vserver is a linux patch
1118753374 M * IceTi which distribution are supported?
1118753381 M * Bertl fwiffo: what is broken?
1118753385 M * fwiffo so, no i guess, except if you find a implementation for that
1118753388 M * fwiffo Bertl: ngnet
1118753389 M * TheSeer IceTi: all linux onces
1118753389 M * IceTi RedHat, Suse, Fedora, ??? waht else??
1118753395 M * IceTi solaris too?
1118753398 M * Bertl fwiffo: ah, yes, right!
1118753402 M * TheSeer IceTi: is solaris a linux?
1118753404 M * IceTi no
1118753412 M * TheSeer IceTi: so there goes your answer
1118753416 M * IceTi :-)
1118753427 M * IceTi ok i think
1118753430 M * fwiffo Panther_1: so you probably have to wait until ngnet is working or you have to set up openvpn on the host
1118753432 M * IceTi i am happy now :-9
1118753437 M * TheSeer vserver can "run" everything that's based on a linux kernel
1118753438 M * Panther_1 Bertl: which patch is the most stable for an 2.6 kernel?
1118753444 M * fwiffo Bertl: btw, do you have a working grsec+vserver polic?
1118753446 M * fwiffo y
1118753458 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: or i must migrate to vmware
1118753467 M * fwiffo Panther_1: hm...
1118753474 M * fwiffo Panther_1: how about xen?
1118753505 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: I have never worked with xen so I must read the doc's first
1118753516 M * fwiffo Panther_1: that's faster than uml and vmware, but it's currently nothing for you if you have a smp system
1118753532 M * fwiffo Panther_1: yeah, i tried it befor i came to vserver
1118753557 M * fwiffo it's very easy to set up, but as said, it's nothing if you're trying to use smp ;-)
1118753559 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: hardware is an dual PIII 500 
1118753570 M * fwiffo uh...
1118753572 M * fwiffo sheesh...
1118753578 M * fwiffo then try uml *g*
1118753598 M * fwiffo it's faster than vmware ;-)
1118753643 M * fwiffo ... and kernel 2.6 has uml in vanilla
1118753651 M * FaUl hey Panther_1 :-)
1118753666 M * fwiffo so you just have to do a "make ARCH=um *config"
1118753688 M * fwiffo replace * with that config method you want to use ;-)
1118753693 M * Panther_1 FaUl: moin FaUl 
1118753741 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: which ist in the moment the stable vserver patch for 2.6 kernel?
1118753749 M * Panther_1 fwiffo: I have only vserver on 2.4 in the moment
1118753755 M * fwiffo so, did someone with a working grsec+vserver-policy already wake up?
1118753774 M * fwiffo Panther_1: you can run a 2.6 kerneul inside a 2.4
1118753805 M * fwiffo hm, but i think that's off-topic and shouldn't be discussed here in the channel, right? ;-)
1118753816 M * FaUl Panther_1: 2.0-rc4 should be stable
1118753821 M * Bertl fwiffo: most folks (almost all folks) using grsec use it because of the 'inherent' security it brigs (harhar) ...
1118753824 M * Panther_1 FaUl: tested?
1118753850 M * fwiffo Panther_1: oops, you meant vserver...
1118753854 M * Bertl fwiffo: i.e. they do not know what to configure (policy) so they do not configure (policy)
1118753860 M * fwiffo Panther_1: arrr, *braincarneval*
1118753862 M * FaUl Panther_1: on my box runs 2.6.11.10-vs2.0-rc2
1118753881 M * FaUl Panther_1: and without ngnet it works fine
1118753888 M * fwiffo Bertl: huh?
1118753900 M * fwiffo Bertl: so i have to switch to selinux or rsbac again?
1118753932 M * fwiffo Bertl: or was that regarding the learning mode?
1118753947 M * fwiffo (which doesn't work well on vserver)
1118753978 M * Bertl fwiffo: it means, the typical grsec user does not configure anything ... unfortunately
1118753991 M * fwiffo ah?
1118753993 M * fwiffo why?
1118753995 M * fwiffo O_o
1118753998 M * fwiffo rbac?
1118754001 M * fwiffo o_O
1118754055 M * fwiffo so they just use the chroot restrictions and the other thingies included in grsec, all except rbac
1118754059 M * fwiffo *grml*
1118754090 M * fwiffo and i'm wondering why i didn't found anything useful on the web :-/
1118754140 M * fwiffo ahem, that means that you know of nobody who's using rbac with vserver, right?
1118754178 M * fwiffo that cries for a good doc :-)
1118754190 M * fwiffo if i get that working i'll write one
1118754453 M * Bertl I'm not even convinced that the existing grsec/vserver patches work as expected
1118754469 M * fwiffo hm, yup, they work as expected...
1118754472 M * Bertl AFAICR nobody did 'extensive' testing ...
1118754514 M * fwiffo but it's a bit tricky to get to a working vserver rbac policy
1118754667 M * fwiffo but i accomplished the first step -> entering a vserver ;-)
1118754669 M * fwiffo :-D
1118754726 M * fwiffo hm, somehow it's a bit silent in here *g*
1118756686 A * Bertl drops a pin ...
1118756777 M * fwiffo ;-)
1118757033 Q * IceTi Quit: get satisfied! • :: ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» www.gamersirc.net ::
1118757037 M * fwiffo vc_migrate_context(): Operation not permitted
1118757039 M * fwiffo hm....
1118757146 M * fwiffo btw, is it a known issue that the vserver hangs upon trying to shutdown (at the point halt/reboot is issued with -f)
1118757149 M * fwiffo ?
1118757173 M * fwiffo don't have debugging mode enabled
1118757243 M * fwiffo hrm, it tries to open() "/tmp/vserver-stop.fDtzLh/pipe"...
1118757285 M * Bertl which version?
1118757316 M * fwiffo vs2.0rc1
1118757330 M * fwiffo so i think i have to upgrade to rc4 right?
1118757335 M * Bertl update to vs2.0-rc4
1118757346 M * fwiffo *g* that's what i thought...
1118757362 M * Bertl actually the tools should be updated, but we have no new tool release :(
1118757375 M * fwiffo hmmmm....
1118757404 M * fwiffo so the tools should read the pipe to finish shutdown....
1118757414 M * fwiffo right?
1118757457 M * fwiffo *unpatching kernel*
1118757578 M * Bertl no, the tools should use vwait in a separate thread ;)
1118757601 M * fwiffo hrm...
1118758597 M * fwiffo making a new patch for 2.6.11.12 with grsec2+vs2
1118758681 Q * steve-^ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118759133 M * Hollow heya
1118759139 M * fwiffo moin Hollow
1118759160 M * Hollow i've started a nice gentoo vserver build script ;)
1118759172 M * Loki|muh \o/
1118759197 M * Hollow http://home.xnull.de/work/gentoo/vserver/tools/vserver-new
1118759319 M * DaPhreak hmm fwiffo 
1118759325 M * DaPhreak its already done ;)
1118759334 M * fwiffo grr? where?
1118759347 M * DaPhreak http://team.lea-linux.org/cheim/vserver-grsec/
1118759356 M * Hollow hehe
1118759369 M * Hollow DaPhreak: i didn't look at it yet...
1118759379 M * DaPhreak yeah .. i know ;P lazy you ;)
1118759384 M * Hollow vserver-new fascinated me too much :P
1118759388 M * Hollow pah
1118759410 M * fwiffo daaaaah....
1118759414 M * fwiffo *rrraaarrgh*
1118759421 M * DaPhreak yeah thats me :P
1118759428 M * fwiffo i hate you :-P
1118759429 M * Hollow Bertl: will there be rc5?
1118759438 M * DaPhreak thanks a lot fwiffo ;)
1118759445 M * fwiffo *g*
1118759456 M * fwiffo no i have to thank
1118759464 M * Bertl Hollow: not if we do not find anything broken ...
1118759466 M * fwiffo otherwise i've done work for nothing
1118759478 M * Hollow Bertl: shutdown of my vservers' still not working ;)
1118759483 M * DaPhreak heh, probably i should add the link to the wiki ;)
1118759494 M * fwiffo hm, good idea ;-)
1118759497 M * fwiffo :-P
1118759500 M * DaPhreak Hollow: yeah here too ;) 
1118759500 M * fwiffo ah, btw...
1118759509 M * Bertl Hollow: with 2.0-rc4 it's back to the 1.9.x state of working by chance ...
1118759513 M * fwiffo DaPhreak: do you use the rbac systom with vserver and grsec?
1118759524 M * fwiffo s/tom/tem/
1118759530 M * Bertl Hollow: I can not fix it in the kernel, it has to be done in the tools
1118759531 M * Hollow Bertl: i'm running rc4
1118759540 M * Hollow hm
1118759546 M * Bertl see example hack ...
1118759551 M * DaPhreak nope .. only grsec-stuff (and only the pure grsec-stuff) no pax or such
1118759555 M * Hollow the example hack doesn't work..
1118759567 A * DaPhreak stabs Hollow
1118759571 M * Bertl Hollow: hmm?
1118759573 M * fwiffo DaPhreak: i hope that i'll be the first tinkering around with that...
1118759579 M * fwiffo i _hope_!
1118759585 M * DaPhreak heh
1118759588 M * fwiffo i don't want to do work twice...
1118759593 M * DaPhreak yeah :)
1118759640 M * DaPhreak well it works so far .. (also the pax stuff) ..
1118759642 M * Hollow Bertl: http://phpfi.com/65899
1118759654 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/vshelper-hack-01.diff
1118759674 M * Bertl we are talking about this one?
1118759680 M * Hollow er.. no
1118759693 M * Hollow thx a lot
1118759704 M * DaPhreak hmmm .. isn't this one in -rc4 Bertl ?
1118759705 M * fwiffo DaPhreak: yeah, did you ever try to make a rbac policy for a vserver? ;-)
1118759705 M * Bertl as I said, it's a cruel hack, and not intended for production use
1118759720 M * Bertl DaPhreak: it's a patch for the _tools_ ;)
1118759729 M * DaPhreak ah ...
1118759750 M * DaPhreak is it the same as http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-2.0/delta-vshelper-fix01.diff ?
1118759768 M * DaPhreak doesn't seem to be ... 
1118759784 M * DaPhreak so i guess the delta was/is for -rc3 .. ;)
1118759818 M * Bertl yup
1118759826 M * Hollow Bertl: do i still need apps/vshelper-delegate/shutdown?
1118759831 M * Bertl nope
1118759842 M * Hollow then it still doesn't work
1118759869 M * Hollow http://phpfi.com/65900
1118759870 M * Bertl can you pack together a minimal server which doesn't work and upload it somewhere?
1118759903 M * Hollow sure
1118759961 M * DaPhreak hmm .. Bertl, another one ;P how is your bind-ro feature called is it BME ?
1118759989 M * Bertl yep, Bind Mount Extensions
1118760065 Q * rs Quit: rs
1118760068 M * DaPhreak thanks a lot :)
1118760086 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1118760115 M * DaPhreak added to the wiki :)
1118760127 M * BWare morning / noon / evening @all 
1118760143 M * Bertl welcome BWare!
1118760213 M * BWare is there a place to dump a webgui interface in progress ?
1118760227 M * fwiffo moin BWare
1118760245 M * Bertl hmm, you mean cvs or url or what?
1118760275 M * BWare well I could setup a temporary host for the code for now
1118760294 M * BWare but it would be nice to dump it into a cvs somewhere
1118760312 Q * Panther_1 Quit: Client exiting
1118760387 M * eyck svn maybe
1118760446 M * fwiffo BWare: you mean like hooks to a rcs? (like svn (pre|post)-commit for example)
1118760457 M * BWare for example
1118760498 M * BWare just a repository to dump the code so that others can get it and add to it
1118760514 M * fwiffo ah...
1118760532 M * fwiffo so, you mean that a tarball or something is automatically created out of that repos, right?
1118760541 M * BWare Or ignore, because it's pretty legacy, but I'll leave that the end user
1118760583 M * BWare fwiffo: that's what I mean indeed, like cvs/svn/tla(gnu-arch) all do
1118760603 M * DaPhreak hmm Bertl, where did sam put your branch of util-vserver ?
1118760623 M * DaPhreak or the play-around-brach or whoever it's called :)
1118760631 M * BWare hehehe
1118760646 M * DaPhreak s/who/how/
1118760671 M * fwiffo BWare: why don't use a rcs?
1118760678 M * Bertl http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200505/0053.html
1118760683 M * Doener` uv is at openfoundry, AFAIK berlios now also has svn support
1118760687 M * fwiffo sorry, i don't get what you want to say O_o
1118760700 M * Bertl morning Doener`!
1118760707 M * DaPhreak Doener`: you know right ;) they have :)
1118760709 M * Doener` morning
1118760719 M * fwiffo ... didn't
1118760730 M * fwiffo hullo Doener
1118760778 M * Hollow gentoo has svn support too ;)
1118760802 M * fwiffo i think most distributions have that *g*
1118760823 M * Hollow great
1118760824 M * Hollow :)
1118760827 M * Hollow i hate cvs
1118760860 M * fwiffo hehe, i use monotone, but maybe it's worth to look at git
1118760888 M * fwiffo but that's another topic ;-)
1118761652 J * ruuth VooDoo@topas.informatik.uni-ulm.de
1118761772 M * ruuth hi! how stable is the new (r4) baselayout?
1118761780 M * Bertl hey ruuth!
1118761852 M * ruuth Hi Bertl!
1118761908 M * Bertl Hollow: let me know when/where to find it ...
1118762331 M * Hollow Bertl: i'll upload it later.. my brother is complaining about his game ping and i don't like these family troubles :P
1118762355 M * Hollow have to avoid them ;)
1118762413 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
1118762543 M * Bertl Hollow: np, just send me a message ...
1118762550 M * Bertl welcome rs!
1118762557 M * rs re
1118762666 J * falz ~falz@proxy.supranet.net
1118762780 M * Bertl welcome falz!
1118763989 J * monrad ~monrad@0x535b06c0.ronxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk
1118764287 J * shuri shuri@64.235.209.226
1118764307 Q * MrX Remote host closed the connection
1118765142 M * DaPhreak Bertl: in your vshelper(tools) fix .. you rely on /tmp/vwait .. but where to get, since the latest tools don't include it ..
1118765178 M * DaPhreak ah ..
1118765190 M * DaPhreak next time i'll look at /Experimental first ;)
1118765211 M * Bertl as I said, a hack :)
1118765245 M * DaPhreak yeah :)
1118765922 M * Hollow Bertl: http://dev.gentoo.org/~hollow/vserver/gentoo-template.tar.bz2
1118765933 M * Bertl excellent, thanks!
1118765968 M * Hollow the coonfiguration ist default "build -m skeleton"
1118765995 M * Bertl okay ...
1118766429 M * Doener` off for today, have a good one
1118766433 N * Doener` Doener|gone
1118766564 M * Bertl Doener|gone: U2!
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1118767446 J * fwiffo_ ~mmrnmrhm@p5499BFFA.dip.t-dialin.net
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1118770135 M * Bertl back later ...
1118770140 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1118770538 J * Val ~val@v41.ath.cx
1118770640 M * Val Hy all
1118770648 M * Val -y+i :(
1118770790 M * DaPhreak hi Val :)
1118772967 N * fwiffo_ fwiffo
1118773026 J * dotwaffle ~waffle@hack118.plus.com
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1118774810 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1118774813 M * TheSeer re :)
1118777896 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net
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1118781363 J * serving ~serving@217.164.244.92
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1118784130 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-113-200.dclient.hispeed.ch
1118784357 M * aba Ok. How can I find out in which context a device is mounted?
1118785063 M * Vudumen well i think a device is mounted in a namespace instead of a context but i don't know
1118785069 M * Vudumen (if you use 2.6) of course)
1118785813 Q * TheSeer Read error: Operation timed out
1118785855 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net
1118785897 Q * falz Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118785956 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1118786430 M * fwiffo sheesh...
1118786484 M * fwiffo i hate debugging the kernel when grsecurity settings are set to randomize kernel memory...
1118786665 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-182.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1118788728 Q * rs Quit: rs
1118788803 M * pattieja_ I didn't see yesterday if anyone responded to my query about Postfix?
1118788824 M * fwiffo don't know, wasn't here, yesterday
1118788841 M * pattieja_ I figured out how to make amavisd-new and postfix listen on eth0's IP address :10024 and :10025 respectively
1118788855 M * pattieja_ however, Postfix is listening on 0.0.0.0:25
1118788868 M * fwiffo got it
1118788870 M * pattieja_ I need to change this somehow.  I will see if #postfix people know how
1118788880 M * fwiffo that's easy to change
1118788905 M * fwiffo so, you want postfix to listen only on particular interfaces, right?
1118788924 M * pattieja_ fwiffo, yes
1118788945 M * pattieja_ fwiffo, technically, I have two IPs bound to eth0 and I need Postfix to pickup both of them to listen on
1118788960 M * pattieja_ but no others
1118788965 M * pattieja_ i.e., not localhost
1118788976 M * pattieja_ or 0.0.0.0
1118788980 M * fwiffo hm, k, mom...
1118788986 M * pattieja_ ?
1118789006 M * fwiffo yeah, had my postfix config laying around here...
1118789009 M * fwiffo *searching* ;-)
1118789054 M * fwiffo uh...
1118789057 M * fwiffo fuck...
1118789058 M * fwiffo *g*
1118789061 M * fwiffo mynetworks = 
1118789069 M * pattieja_ no need to get hot
1118789077 M * pattieja_ hmm
1118789079 M * fwiffo :-D
1118789104 M * fwiffo oh, mom...
1118789106 M * pattieja_ if I set mynetworks to nothing, then won't that affect relaying and what hosts can access the server without authentication?
1118789128 M * fwiffo yeah, sure, but only if you set up an acl for that...
1118789143 M * fwiffo but there's "inet_interfaces", if you want to avoid that
1118789267 M * Aiken don't the utils come with something that will force something on the host to only bind to 1 ip?
1118789271 M * pattieja_ so I can leave mynetworks the way it is and just add inet_interfaces = eth0,eth0:1 or something like that?
1118789290 M * fwiffo nono, not the interface names, but the edresses
1118789293 M * fwiffo adresses
1118789307 M * fwiffo like the mynetworks option
1118789322 M * fwiffo okay, not exactly the same
1118789352 M * fwiffo iirc it don't likes network masks very well, so you should specify single ip's
1118789357 M * fwiffo ... or hostnames
1118789388 M * pattieja_ it appears to be a space separated field
1118789389 M * fwiffo Aiken: imho this is done in main.cf
1118789399 M * fwiffo yeah
1118789404 M * pattieja_ I will specify the two DNS names for the mail server
1118789409 M * Aiken I was looking the /etc/init.d/v_* files
1118789430 M * fwiffo v_*?
1118789459 M * pattieja_ that did it!!
1118789461 M * pattieja_ thanks fwiffo 
1118789465 M * fwiffo np
1118789493 M * pattieja_ wahoo!
1118789497 M * pattieja_ vservers rock
1118789506 M * Aiken they are supplied by the util-vserver package
1118789587 M * fwiffo yeah, but the question was about postfix
1118789608 M * Aiken (root@barney) service v_sendmail start
1118789608 M * Aiken exec /usr/sbin/chbind --ip eth0 /etc/init.d/sendmail start
1118789608 M * Aiken ipv4root is now 172.16.31.1
1118789608 M * Aiken Starting sendmail:                                         [  OK  ]
1118789608 M * Aiken /etc/rc.d/init.d, Wed Jun 15 08:52:53
1118789609 M * Aiken (root@barney) netstat -ap | grep sendmail
1118789610 M * Aiken tcp        0      0 barney:smtp             *:*                     LISTEN      23362/sendmail: acc
1118789626 M * fwiffo pattieja_: thunderbolts suck ;-)
1118789635 M * fwiffo ah, you mean chbind
1118789638 M * pattieja_ thunderbolts?
1118789639 M * Aiken I know the question was about postfix but I was pointing out that the utils have a utility to make a program only bind to 1 ip
1118789656 M * pattieja_ Aiken, but I needed Postfix to bind to 2 IPs
1118789666 M * fwiffo yeah, but that's just for programs that don't have their own way of specifying the bound addr
1118789725 M * fwiffo pattieja_: yeah, a little change in the weather here ;-)
1118789781 M * fwiffo ... and i don't have an ups :-/
1118789785 M * pattieja_ ahh.  It's been beautiful here
1118789789 M * pattieja_ ouch
1118789847 M * fwiffo yeah, that's summer in germany ;-)
1118790048 J * knoppix_ ~knoppix@dsl-213-023-140-094.arcor-ip.net
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1118790452 Q * Val Quit: zZz
1118790473 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1118792077 M * fwiffo uh... tired ... i ... am ...
1118792079 M * fwiffo shit...
1118792184 M * fwiffo two possibilities...
1118792202 M * fwiffo ... one try
1118792214 M * fwiffo :-/
1118792334 M * fwiffo int go_to_sleep( time_t too_late )
1118792335 M * fwiffo {
1118792343 M * fwiffo return -EPERM;
1118792344 M * fwiffo }
1118792842 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving