1118621503 M * Aiken_ your right
1118621515 M * Aiken_ I just had to goto a machine on another subnet
1118621539 M * Aiken_ ifconfig eth0:bett down takes down both eth0 and eth0:bett
1118621543 M * DaPhreak Bertl: is it safe to _disable_ CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY ?
1118621558 M * Bertl yes, with util-vserver 0.30.208++
1118621565 M * DaPhreak ah :)
1118621584 M * DaPhreak so better leave it on ;) until 208++ are released :)
1118621927 M * Aiken_ I commented out the call to ifconfig_iproot_off
1118621959 M * Aiken_ I will have 2 maybe 3 vserver running and only expect them to be shutdown when the machine it shutdown so I can live with that
1118622038 M * Bertl hum, why not configure it properly?
1118622092 M * Aiken_ that leads to -> so how would I down eth0:bett and not eth0?
1118622148 M * Bertl the tools will do that by default, unless you have 'special' entries/configs ...
1118622162 M * Bertl well, I don't know your configs, so I can't tell ya
1118622199 M * Aiken_ on that machine 'ifconfig eth0:betty down' also kills eth0 which is the problem
1118622276 M * Aiken_ I am inclined to think it is a limit of the older ifconfig or libc
1118622465 M * Aiken_ it is the older ifconfig that is the problem, a newer ifconfig works
1118622554 M * Bertl first you should check if that is true for all configs ...
1118622568 M * Bertl try with different netmasks, e.g.
1118622653 Q * rs Quit: rs
1118622735 M * Aiken_ on the other subnet I tried -> ifconfig eth1:1 172.16.27.108; ifconfig eth1:1 down  which killed both eth1:1 and eth1
1118622744 M * Aiken_ with the newer ifconfig I got the expected result
1118622993 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net
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1118629630 M * Bertl night folks!
1118629637 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1118642136 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
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1118647685 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@lms.rz.uni-greifswald.de
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1118648610 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net
1118650331 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
1118651026 M * id morning #vserver
1118651184 M * eyck morning
1118651950 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com
1118652554 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.67
1118652556 M * Pazzo morning id, eyck
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1118653059 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
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1118654138 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-248.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1118655003 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1118655005 P * jsambrook 
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1118659473 J * Doener` ~doener@p54877E5F.dip.t-dialin.net
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1118661724 J * knoppix_ ~knoppix@dsl-213-023-128-214.arcor-ip.net
1118663080 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
1118663870 J * stegbth ~stegbth@stegbth.sim.tronicplanet.de
1118663878 M * stegbth hello
1118663960 M * stegbth does there exist already a kernel patch for 2.4.31? or is the patch for 2.4.30 ok?
1118664169 M * Doener` should apply just fine (except Makefile of course ;)
1118664233 J * eXplasm2 explasm@p549F4105.dip.t-dialin.net
1118664240 M * Aiken apart from the Makefile it applies fine, have not used it yet. I have been wondering the same thing
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1118664626 M * Aiken is there a way besides using SNAT to get a vserver to talk to the world using masquerading? 2.4.29 + vs1.2.10
1118664684 M * eyck masquerade
1118664706 M * Doener` eyck: you speak polish, right?
1118664715 M * eyck right.
1118664728 M * eyck not much though,
1118664734 M * Doener` http://gentoo.pl/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,35/func,post/do,quote/replyto,10939/catid,4/
1118664748 M * Doener` could you translate the message from yoshi314 for me, please?
1118664758 M * Aiken do you have an example iptables cmd? I can get it to work using SNAT but the ip for ppp0 is via dhcp and only had a lifetime of 5 hours
1118664816 M * eyck yoshi314: This might be the fault of apt-utils package, try recompiling it with berkdb flag ( and install db package if you haven't already done that ),
1118664827 M * eyck check the flags with which apache installs,
1118664838 M * Doener` thanks!
1118664846 M * dsoul eyck: :)
1118664888 M * eyck ziomal? ;) 
1118664916 M * dsoul nie ;P
1118664965 M * as l
1118665060 M * dsoul :>
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1118666499 J * albeiro ~albeiro@graffias.estrefa.pl
1118666897 M * stegbth tahnkx
1118666900 M * stegbth thanx
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1118668385 J * Doener ~doener@p54877E5F.dip.t-dialin.net
1118669731 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
1118669901 M * sannes :)
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1118670898 J * Val ~val@v41.ath.cx
1118670911 M * Val hi zll
1118670914 M * Val -z+a
1118671245 M * Doener hey Val 
1118671902 M * Val hey Doener :)
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1118672304 J * cereal ~cereal@217.20.124.153
1118672901 J * alanhs ~icechat5@82-68-97-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1118673797 J * albeiro ~albeiro@albeiro.usercloak.oftc.net
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1118675477 N * BobR_afk BobR
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1118679377 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
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1118680274 N * Doener Doener|gone
1118681134 J * falz ~falz@proxy.supranet.net
1118681267 M * falz I seem to find docs about cpu scheduling/hard limits on 2.6.x kernels- anyone know if this is possible on 2.4?
1118681285 M * eyck AFAIK, nope
1118681296 M * falz wow
1118681304 M * eyck next-gen scheduler(O(1)) dependant
1118681321 M * falz did the older versions of vserver support it, or just never since 2.6?
1118681388 M * eyck it's next-gen scheduler(O(1)) dependant.
1118681404 M * falz I guess I shouldn't ph33r 2.6
1118681418 M * eyck as soon as you port that scheduler to 2.4, I'll provide you with hard limits on vserver/2.4
1118681424 M * falz it's NEAR .15, which I usually dumbly assume is a magic number where perhaps it should begin being used
1118681439 M * eyck yeah, that changed,
1118681451 M * eyck now we're expecting it to stabilise around .21 
1118681498 M * falz it = kernel, or it = vserver kernel patch?
1118681516 M * eyck kernel,
1118681535 M * eyck vserver is mainly Bertl's fault, thus it stabilises pretty quickly,
1118682965 Q * falz Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118683134 J * falz ~falz@proxy.supranet.net
1118683181 M * falz so, to monitor traffic from the virtual interface, could one alias the interface on the host then use snmpd on the host? or would that alias conflict w/ something?
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1118684780 M * falz hmm, looks like net-snmp doesn't see aliased interfaces. boo.
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1118689100 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@LevNor.Hu
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1118692669 J * Val ~val@v41.ath.cx
1118692827 N * BobR BobR_oO
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1118697228 N * Doener|gone Doener
1118698045 J * serving ~serving@mailmx.equipment.net
1118698095 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net
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1118701858 M * Val hum...
1118701899 M * Val is there a debian packages cache facility when using 'vserver build -m debootstrap' ?
1118701910 M * Val like with legacy tools ?
1118702085 M * Doener guess apt-proxy will help there
1118702121 M * Doener probably even better than just caching the debootstrap packages, as the vserver will share some more packages
1118702355 M * Val not as good as legacy tools :(
1118702481 M * Doener what did they do?
1118702506 M * Doener mind that legacy upstream tools didn't even know debootstrap ;)
1118702558 M * aba the next debootstrap version will know about re-using the cached packages of the host. But that will take until it is ready.
1118702573 M * Val ok thanks :)
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1118702791 M * Doener aba: btw, what about cdebootstrap (or whatever it was called), is that just debootstrap written in C?
1118702887 M * aba Doener: no. cdebootstrap takes dependencies into consideration, whereas debootstrap has just a hardcoded list. There are ideas to deprecate debootstrap, but - well, that ideas are there for years.
1118702912 M * Doener ah, that is nice
1118702936 M * aba but I've never looked to closely at that - I'm not one of the installer people
1118704643 M * Val is there a known problem with autofs when defining an automount point from main host like /vservers/<name>/home ?
1118704661 M * Val -> Kernel panic
1118704706 M * Val with --bind mount option
1118705740 M * Val hum
1118705742 M * Val well
1118705768 M * Val seen in the mailing list :(
1118706696 M * Val vnamespace is the solution ... :)
1118707053 J * pattieja_ ~pattieja@adsl-69-153-174-41.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net
1118707113 M * pattieja_ anybody have any hints on how to get Postfix running in vserver instances while Postfix is also running in the host with localhost:10025 forwarding to the amavisd-new process for SPAM/VIRUS filtering?
1118707133 M * pattieja_ amavisd-new is running on the hsot
1118707134 M * pattieja_ host