1118361849 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net
1118361864 M * Bertl wb aba! rs!
1118361875 M * rs re
1118361893 M * Doener evening rs
1118362198 P * monrad Leaving
1118362265 M * locksy I want my vserver to have unrestricted net access, what should I be checking? (2.6.12-rc5-vs2.0-rc3, Debian Host & Guest, util-vserver 0.30.207-7)
1118362284 M * Bertl unrestricted means?
1118362345 M * locksy I don't need to configure net devices, but I want to be able to bind to any IP, send/recv raw packets etc.
1118362363 M * Bertl CAP_NET_RAW and a binding to 0.0.0.0
1118362435 M * locksy Which conf files should I be checking?
1118362470 M * Bertl the bcapability and the interfaces config
1118362504 M * locksy My interfaces directory is currently empty,  does that mean no access?
1118362538 M * Bertl hmm, not sure what that really means ...
1118362947 M * Bertl check the /proc/self/vinfo
1118363000 M * Bertl hmm, /proc/self/ninfo I meant
1118364697 M * locksy /proc/self/ninfo -> NID: 49165, V4Root[bcast]:  255.255.255.255
1118364717 M * Bertl no further entries? then it means unassigned
1118364723 M * locksy What should I be aiming for in /proc/self/ninfo?
1118364731 M * locksy Nothing else.
1118364755 M * Bertl you probably want 0.0.0.0 there, did you try to bind anything yet?
1118364767 M * Bertl i.e. start a netcat or web server or sshd?
1118364831 M * locksy Yeah, ssh comes up in a netstat -l --inet as bound to 0.0.0.0:22 from inside the vserver,  but not from the host and I can't connect to it from outside.
1118364871 M * Bertl really? well, it's quite interesting we never actually tried that 
1118364895 M * Bertl but try with an interface config with a single entry '0'
1118364909 M * Bertl (directory) which contains a file 'ip' with 0.0.0.0 in it
1118364927 M * Bertl also touch the nodev for the guest
1118364969 M * locksy hehehe,  that's what I was just about to try...
1118365149 M * locksy Hmmm, V4Root[0]:      0.0.0.0/255.255.255.0
1118365172 M * locksy even with file 'mask' with 0.0.0.0
1118365243 M * Bertl hmm, try if it works ...
1118366219 M * locksy still connection refused.
1118366775 M * Doener i'm off to bed, good night folks!
1118366779 N * Doener Doener_zZz
1118366785 M * Bertl night Doener_zZz!
1118367143 M * Bertl locksy: could you try with a real ip there?
1118367152 M * Bertl just to verify that nothing else is broken
1118367223 M * locksy Allright, I'm just gonna set it to the main IP, for the moment.
1118367310 M * locksy And that works...
1118367390 M * locksy oh well, that'll just have to do for now :(
1118367419 M * Bertl hmm, will investigate ...
1118367447 M * Bertl well, basically it's a bug of the tools, as there should be an option to avoid the chbind at all
1118368048 Q * serving- Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118368959 J * xaero r00t@c-520ae155.34-2-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1118368974 M * Bertl welcome xaero!
1118368996 M * xaero thanks Bertl
1118369003 M * xaero anyone from sweden? :=)
1118369031 M * xaero do you guys know 'Jason357'
1118369057 M * Bertl should we?
1118369072 M * xaero no ;)
1118369103 M * Bertl so what's up? interested in linux-vserver?
1118369157 M * xaero hell yeah! sorry, i know that my english sucks so don't complain ;)
1118369204 M * Bertl well, we can understand you, so it's quite fine ...
1118369280 M * xaero good! :)
1118369345 N * xaero Unitr0nic
1118369571 M * Bertl hmm, xaero reminded me of Q3A, but Unitr0nic?
1118369651 M * Unitr0nic Unitr0nic is a invention nick i usually nick ksv but on dtnn/lcirc i nick xaero3
1118369657 M * Unitr0nic you understand? ;)
1118369694 M * Bertl I understand ;)
1118369711 M * Unitr0nic :)
1118371642 M * Val is it a good documentation for util-vserver separate files configuration ?
1118371654 M * Val ...
1118371658 M * Bertl yes, and it is at:
1118371688 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html
1118371722 M * Val hum :)
1118371724 M * Val well
1118371725 M * Val :)
1118374262 M * Val quit zZz byz !
1118374266 Q * Val Quit: zZz byz !
1118375971 J * Guest6982569 freebsd@219.95.1.176
1118375996 M * Bertl welcome Guest6982569!
1118377705 N * Guest6982569 MrX
1118377728 M * Bertl hmm ...
1118378382 M * DaPhreak morning Bertl ;)
1118378394 M * Bertl morning DaPhreak!
1118378403 M * DaPhreak still awake ?
1118378413 M * Bertl yup, barely
1118378425 M * DaPhreak heh .. last day in school today ;)
1118378471 M * DaPhreak only collecting my certificate :)
1118380504 Q * MrX Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118383010 J * hiaslboy ~matthias@80.26.165.35
1118383027 M * Bertl morning hiaslboy!
1118383050 M * hiaslboy morning Bertl :-) Long time no see :-)
1118383058 M * Bertl yup
1118383070 M * Bertl but not my fault ;)
1118383103 M * hiaslboy At home I will follow more closely the development - a newer Notebook is waiting :-) (end of July)
1118383399 Q * ciphernaut Quit: 
1118383669 J * Bertl_ ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at
1118383731 N * Bertl_ Bertl_zZ
1118383748 Q * Bertl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1118383812 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1118384512 Q * Bertl_zZ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118387606 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1118387606 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118387609 N * _mcp mcp
1118387927 J * Guest6982569 freebsd@219.95.1.176
1118389994 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com
1118390343 Q * hiaslboy Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118391824 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org
1118392098 N * Doener_zZz Doener
1118392105 M * Doener morning!
1118392109 Q * bro Quit: Read error: 3.1415926535 (Excessive pi)
1118392173 Q * sebd Remote host closed the connection
1118392175 M * Pazzo moin Doener!
1118392181 Q * erwan_taf Remote host closed the connection
1118392194 M * Doener hey Pazzo 'sup?
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1118392697 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1118392712 P * jsambrook 
1118394214 M * Pazzo Doener: sun is shining ;-)
1118394235 M * Doener hm, wind is blowing here...
1118394248 M * Doener guess rain is only a matter of time...
1118394278 M * Pazzo wind was blowing the last days here - today everything is fine, it's really hot once again and no wind :)
1118394288 M * DaPhreak hmm .. raining pretty heavy here already ;(
1118394380 M * Pazzo Doner: if someone asks you what filesystem to use on a hosting or file server - what would you suggest him? I'm using ext3 everywhere as I'm used to use it and know that / how it works. I'm sceptic about reiser but xfs interests me - what's your opinion about this topic?
1118394487 M * Doener I've never used anything but ext2/3... I've heard too many bad things about reiserfs so I'm scared of it (well, the code also scares me sometimes, i.e. when i look at it ;) 
1118394626 M * Pazzo *gg*
1118394633 M * Pazzo any idea about xfs?
1118394644 M * Doener but honestly, I'm not the type of guy you should ask this ;) My knowledge in such areas is quite limited, I use linux about as long as I try to work on/help Linux-VServer, i.e. about 2 years. And just in my copious spare time...
1118394693 M * Doener Jun 06 20:40:59 Bertl xfs is crap (at least the way it is in the kernel right now)
1118394713 M * Doener I'll just trust Bertl :)
1118394743 M * Doener didn't look at xfs code that much yet
1118394911 M * eyck xfs is advanced,
1118394922 M * eyck especially compared to ext2/3
1118394957 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
1118394957 M * eyck and people not familiar with it tend to get scared when looking at the amount of code xfs contains
1118395219 M * Pazzo eyck: I've a good "feeling" about xfs (just because of what I've read about it - never tried it out) and I'm pretty sceptic about reiser
1118395231 M * Pazzo googling around I read that xfs can't handle bad blocks?!
1118395419 M * Pazzo hmmm... is it possible to force "mount -o remount,ro /" on a running (idle) system? (like the kernel does on fs errors)
1118395429 M * Pazzo of course I get a "/ is busy" erro
1118395430 M * Pazzo r
1118395722 M * eyck yes, it should be possible
1118395738 M * eyck Pazzo: yes, xfs is a bad match for a crappy diskdrive,
1118395748 M * eyck I use it on desktops and laptops without problems though,
1118395759 M * eyck but it really shines on servers, not desktops.
1118395873 M * Pazzo thnx eyck!
1118396722 M * Doener gtg, back later
1118396727 N * Doener Doener|gone
1118400183 J * sim0n ~simon@vodsl-1560.vo.lu
1118400192 M * sim0n hi all
1118400214 M * sim0n are there any known problems with vserver and hyperthreading ?
1118400266 M * DaPhreak well as far as i know, the kernel handles the hyperthreading as a "normal" smp system or not ?
1118400267 J * Doener` ~doener@p548741E3.dip.t-dialin.net
1118400709 Q * Doener|gone Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118401045 Q * rs Quit: rs
1118401091 M * sim0n AFAIK yes
1118401971 N * Guest6982569 MrX
1118402183 Q * Zoiah Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118404093 J * Zoiah Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net
1118405421 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr
1118405788 M * rs interesting, I just got this error message at a custormer vserver startup : vuname: vc_set_vhi_name(NODENAME): Argument list too long
1118405842 M * rs the hostname of this vserver is 70 chars long
1118406669 M * Loki|muh on a vserver, I get this error when I try vserver stop:
1118406670 M * Loki|muh |>/usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver.stop: line 79:  3812 Killed                  "${NICE_CMD[@]}" ${USE_VNAMESPACE:+$_VNAMESPACE --enter "$S_CONTEXT" -- } $_VCONTEXT $SILENT_OPT --migrate --chroot --xid "$S_CONTEXT" -- "${INITCMD_STOP[@]}"
1118406674 M * Loki|muh |>Vserver '/etc/vservers/nereide' still running unexpectedly; please investigate it manually...
1118406752 J * ruut ~ruut@p549CB4A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1118406790 M * Loki|muh it is a system  with util-vserver-0.30.207 and 2.6.11.7-vs1.9.5.x5
1118406823 M * Loki|muh somebody knows if something is wrong with kernel or tools? on antoher system the vserver stops regularly
1118408352 Q * sim0n Quit: Leaving
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1118408735 J * eXplasm ~explasm@p549F47D5.dip.t-dialin.net
1118408881 J * herbert ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at
1118408906 N * herbert Bertl
1118408992 M * Bertl morning folks!
1118409039 J * sebd ~sebd@lesdeveloppementsdurables.org
1118409082 M * Bertl welcome sebd!
1118409102 M * sebd hi
1118409434 Q * prae Remote host closed the connection
1118409530 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com
1118409892 Q * sebd Remote host closed the connection
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1118410918 N * maharaja _maharaja
1118410955 N * _maharaja maharaja
1118411367 J * Bertl ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at
1118412334 M * Loki|muh Bertl: do you know something about problems stopping vservers with 2.6.11.7-vs1.9.5.x5 and util-vserver-0.30.207?
1118412564 M * romke Loki|muh: http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200505/0085.html
1118412631 M * Bertl Loki|muh: update to 2.0-rc4
1118412653 M * Bertl (the issues should be resolved there, if not, please report back)
1118412946 M * Loki|muh ok, thx
1118416366 J * Bertl_ ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at
1118416458 Q * Bertl Remote host closed the connection
1118416916 J * Bertl ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at
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1118417830 J * Bertl_ ~herbert@212.16.62.52
1118417859 Q * Bertl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118417908 N * Bertl_ Bertl
1118418324 Q * eXplasm Remote host closed the connection
1118419249 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1118419287 Q * Bertl_oO Quit: leaving
1118419294 J * Bertl ~herbert@212.16.62.52
1118419329 Q * Bertl Quit: 
1118419362 J * Bertl ~herbert@212.16.62.52
1118419477 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1118421566 M * Loki|muh at the end of vserver xyz start, there is a message ".baxecutor missing"
1118421571 M * Loki|muh is this normal?
1118421582 M * Loki|muh just for information?
1118421600 J * xaero3 r00t@c-520ae155.34-2-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
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1118425813 J * cereal ~cereal@217.20.124.153
1118426672 M * Pazzo shouldn't a process get PPID 1 when it's parent process dies??
1118426779 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection
1118427598 J * falz ~falz@proxy.supranet.net
1118427675 M * falz soo. when configuring ipv4 on a vserver. following the instructions on the wiki page "alpha+util-vserver", the IP I give it becomes "live" on the machine in that I can ping it from the host, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig in either host or vserver, and ip doesn't function from the vserver
1118427687 M * falz this is using the build examples on that page (debian)
1118427721 M * Pazzo hehe... found it: if doing "vserver xy enter" the resulting "/bin/bash -login" keeps it's ppid (which belongs to context 0 and is not be visible inside vserver xy)
1118427757 M * Pazzo is it possible to mask this ppid and set ppid=1 for a "vserver enter"-bash?
1118427781 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer
1118427782 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1118427784 M * Pazzo currently tools like pstree will be confused
1118427841 M * Pazzo falz: ifconfig will not show you your interfaces unless an alias will be configured for your vserver's ip
1118427858 M * Pazzo "ip address" shows your ips
1118427859 M * falz Pazzo: ok, so in advance, setup an alias on host?
1118427873 M * falz ah. haven't been around linux for awhile, forgot the 'ip' command
1118427873 M * Pazzo (ip is part of debians "iproute" package - install it inside the vserver)
1118427958 M * falz indeed. ip is not in the vserver. netstat -nr does give me the appropriate routing table though, so that's good
1118427993 M * Pazzo falz: if you would like ifconfig "seeing" your ip write an alias name into /etc/vservers/<vsname>/interfaces/<iface>/name (-> flower page)
1118428000 M * falz ah, and indeed, ipv4 is working as I can telnet out, but icmp seems quite unfunctional
1118428014 M * Pazzo vserver <vsname> start will then generate an alias for you
1118428029 M * falz Pazzo: thx. I put just eth0 in there, but it gives errors, I'll switch to 0:0
1118428035 M * Pazzo icmp unfunctional?? 
1118428037 M * falz yea
1118428044 M * falz foo:/# ping 192.168.94.221
1118428044 M * falz ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
1118428056 M * falz but I can telnet to ssh port on a machine on my subnet as a test
1118428064 M * Pazzo falz: put "vsname" there, so the alias will be named "eth0:vsname"
1118428077 M * falz oo. aliased ip's can use that now? 
1118428092 M * Pazzo falz: kernel version / utils?
1118428116 M * falz 2.4.27, latest utils that were in a debian package..
1118428163 M * falz not sure easiest way to discover utils ver
1118428190 M * Pazzo icmp type echo is allowed in 2.6 versions but probably not in 2.4.x - creating icmp packages will require CAP_NET_RAW
1118428200 M * falz ahh.
1118428239 M * Pazzo you shouldn't use CAP_NET_RAW as it would be a security problem... but you could replace "ping" with another tool doing the same work
1118428261 M * falz so it's the way the ping command sends icmp packets, not icmp itsself?
1118428268 M * Pazzo irc logs and ml archive are probably full of solutions to this problem :)
1118428275 M * falz I'll read 'em.
1118428283 M * falz you just figured out all that ails me.
1118428288 M * falz (ails? I dont know how to spell that)
1118428314 M * Pazzo ails???
1118428438 M * falz so for eth0:vsname, should I then edit the conf /etc/vserver/foo/interfaces/* to match this as well?
1118428448 M * falz er wait
1118428457 M * falz that's what you said. I was looking at /etc/network/interfaces :)
1118428528 M * Pazzo hehe :)
1118429549 M * falz works *MUCH* better now.
1118430446 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.118.217.070.chello.no
1118430518 M * falz ahh, poink.
1118430974 Q * xaero3 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118431764 J * tanjix ~tanjix@office.star-hosting.de
1118431769 M * tanjix hello together
1118431835 M * tanjix w
1118431837 M * tanjix df -h
1118431838 M * tanjix ls
1118432853 M * falz ..
1118432990 Q * tanjix Quit: 
1118433458 Q * falz Quit: 
1118433800 Q * Pazzo Quit: ..
1118434036 J * xaero3 r00t@c-520ae155.34-2-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1118434318 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org
1118438475 J * greedy ~jesper@0x503e3545.arcnxx21.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk
1118440348 N * Doener` Doener
1118440364 M * Doener evening folks
1118445722 J * [Fragism]-hiryuu foobar@pcp05302870pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net
1118445940 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Hello.  Can anyone here answer a question about ipv4root ?
1118446159 M * Doener maybe, if you let us know the question...
1118446228 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Just making sure someone's awake.  I'm not sure what time it is for you
1118446244 Q * xaero3 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1118446255 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu On 2.6.7-vs1.9.2-rc9, I was able to use chbind as a non-root
1118446276 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu On 2.6.11.10-vs1.9.5 that no longer works.
1118446279 M * Doener 1.30am... this channel is quite timezone agnostic ;)
1118446315 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu I'm assuming the change was security-related, but I'm wondering what the cleanest way to get the 1.9.2 behavior back would be
1118446355 M * Doener hm... I'd consider that as a bug in 1.9.2-rc9 then... guess we introduced the context capability later...
1118446546 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Is there a way to hold on to that cap when switching from root to non-root?
1118446569 M * daniel_hozac why are you running chbind as non-root anyway?
1118446594 M * Doener if you really want that, simply moving the VCMD_set_ipv4root case in do_vserver above the CAP_CONTEXT check should be enough (of course you also want a 'if (..)' then, not a case ...: ;)
1118446621 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Some game servers don't bind to a single IP like they should.  I was using chbind to force them to only use one.
1118446664 M * Doener holding that cap isn't a good idea... that would allow more than just that single function
1118446727 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Also, is there a perl library available that can access the vserver functions?
1118446727 M * Doener for the game servers, you could either create a vserver or start it from a chbind'ed shell...
1118446903 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Hrm... I'll have to see what I can do on that front.  Thank you
1118446918 M * Doener i.e. su - root -c "chbind --ip 1.2.3.4/24 su - myuser -c mygameserver"
1118446963 M * Doener there's a c library that comes with the tools, never heard of any perl stuff for that purpose
1118446978 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu In the newer versions, can you specify more than one IP?
1118447296 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Funny that I never tried that.  That actually may work better, anyway.
1118447407 M * Doener hm, you could always specify up to 15 (16?) addresses
1118447492 M * [Fragism]-hiryuu Thank you for all of your work on this project.  Have a good night
1118447519 Q * [Fragism]-hiryuu Quit: Leaving
1118447987 N * Bertl_oO Bertl