1117497978 Q * gregster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1117499671 J * brc bruce@201008061187.user.veloxzone.com.br 1117499931 M * brc good night 1117501241 J * eXplasm2 explasm@p549FF176.dip.t-dialin.net 1117501583 M * brc where can i read about vserver memory limit ? 1117501680 Q * rs Quit: rs 1117501683 Q * explasm__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1117501836 J * ghpolo ~polo@201.10.94.199 1117504055 Q * ghpolo Quit: [BX] Free sex with a BitchX upgrade! Call for details! 1117504772 Q * eXplasm2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1117505556 J * eXplasm explasm@p549FF176.dip.t-dialin.net 1117509288 J * eXplasm2 explasm@p549FFD95.dip.t-dialin.net 1117509488 Q * eXplasm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1117512787 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1117513290 Q * aba Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1117513888 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1117514032 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1117514215 J * mikegrb_ ~michael@mail.thegrebs.com 1117514384 J * aba ~aba@eos.turmzimmer.net 1117514656 Q * mikegrb_ Quit: hehe 1117519010 Q * sebd Remote host closed the connection 1117520316 M * ciphernaut how is arp handled for vserver guests? 1117520436 M * ciphernaut one system i built a few weeks ago (using 2.6.11-vs1.9.5 and util-vserver x207) work fine on the vs2.0-rc2 kernel, but any new ones wont respond across the wire 1117520474 M * ciphernaut I see an arp who-has, but no response ... 1117523888 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1117523978 P * jsambrook 1117527088 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1117527709 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1117527713 M * Bertl morning folks! 1117527724 M * Bertl ciphernaut: check that the netmask is okay ... 1117528041 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1117528577 P * erwan_taf Leaving 1117528619 M * id Hi Bertl , Hi #vserver 1117528798 M * DaPhreak morning guys :) 1117528838 M * prae Morning Da' ! 1117528898 M * DaPhreak ah prae is also awake ;) 1117529440 M * as hi all, im testing the rc2 kernel patch and utils 0.30.204. i set up a vserver, but im able to see the ip adress of the vserver host and other vservers in a vserver. any hints where to disable that? 1117529500 M * id as try to install iproute2 - and use "ip addr ls" to show ips 1117529687 M * as the problem is, i can see the ips, but i want, that the is are not shown in a vserver host (like in the stable version of vserver) execept the vservers own ip 1117529832 M * id ususally the are only the ips the the vserver that you defined in /etc/vservers/vserverXXX/interfaces 1117529859 M * id along with the interface you defined 1117529892 M * Bertl as: what ips did you specify for the geust? 1117529898 M * id http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1117529919 M * Bertl as: and could you try with 0.30.207 just to make sure ;) 1117529951 M * as ah maybe i did the configuration wrong. let me try to fix that 1117530020 M * as reading the config page *puts sunglasses on to avoid eye damage* :) 1117530059 M * id lol - maybe you need some of the flowers to enhance your eyes ;) 1117530115 M * as hehe 1117530160 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1117530208 M * as ok the configuration changed compleatly it seems. is it possible to use the one file configuration(/etc/vservers/myvserverguest.conf) in the new versions ? 1117530227 M * id nope 1117530239 M * id but it should be easy 1117530242 M * id to migrate 1117530248 M * rs hi 1117530255 M * Bertl as: yes, it is possible 1117530269 M * id Bertl, ? 1117530273 M * Bertl as: but you will not be able to configure new features (it's a legacy support) 1117530283 M * id i see ;) 1117530304 M * Bertl as: (you also need to have the legacy api enabled in the kernel) 1117530342 M * as ah ok then thats the problem i guess.... ok i check the kernel 1117530460 M * Bertl hey rs! 1117531202 Q * Pazzo Quit: ... 1117531216 M * rs bertl: just got a blocked vserver with a non-multi-threaded process 1117531237 M * Bertl with or without doener's fix? 1117531251 M * rs without 1117531256 M * Bertl :/ 1117531271 M * rs process is SSHD 1117531292 M * Bertl hmm, is threaded too ... 1117531316 M * rs sshd is threaded? 1117531382 M * rs you're right, damn 1117531387 M * rs ok forget it then :) 1117531589 M * Bertl what? ;) 1117531800 M * rs :) 1117532601 M * TheSeer Bertl: btw.. ;> is there any other way to "share" a folder over two vserver other then mount -o bind a "host"-directory into both? 1117532641 M * TheSeer guess i could smbmount it ;> 1117532653 M * TheSeer but that's prolly worse hehe 1117533137 M * Bertl well, you could do 'normal' mounts .. 1117533149 M * Bertl but basically --bind is the 'best' solution ... 1117534558 M * DaPhreak Bertl: do you have an old-style.config for me ?! :P 1117534565 A * DaPhreak is a bit bored right now 1117534734 M * Bertl hmm, sure ... what precisely do you need? 1117534834 M * DaPhreak no idea .. only noticed your mail on the ml about the "automagical conversion" from old style -> new style 1117534865 M * Bertl okay, I'll prepare some examples ... 1117535121 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/OLD_CONF.txt 1117535156 M * Bertl you probably won't manage to translate everything, as the old config was basically a bash script 1117535187 M * Bertl but sourcing it (maybe with specified options) should set the proper variables ... 1117535206 M * Bertl which then can be easily parsed/interpreted and written as the new config 1117536188 M * matti The B. 1117536189 M * matti :) 1117536192 M * matti Hello 1117536221 M * DaPhreak Bertl: means your "-----------------------------" this is a seperate config !? :D 1117536233 M * matti ;p 1117536242 M * DaPhreak morning matti ;) 1117536244 M * Bertl DaPhreak: yep 1117536257 M * DaPhreak ah, well it confused me a bit :P 1117536258 M * Bertl hey matti! 1117536400 M * Doener` morning! 1117536442 M * Doener` rs: damn, i forgot to ask you for a "ps auxm" of a hanging vserver... 1117536504 M * Bertl morning Doener`! 1117536697 M * Bertl Doener`: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-vs2.0-rc2-rc3.diff 1117536738 M * Bertl (could be broken up into three patches but you should know one of them, and the other one is pretty simple -- help text) 1117536741 M * matti Hello DaPhreak ;) 1117536743 M * matti Hi Bertl :D 1117537033 M * DaPhreak hmm .. is it possible (on alpha-config) to assign a netmask of 24 (like in 192.168.0.5/24) ? 1117537056 M * Bertl yep, you put it into the file 'prefix'? 1117537111 M * DaPhreak ah .. 1117537342 M * rs doener: you are lucky, I still have it in my history 1117537344 M * rs redsolution:/# ps auxm 1117537345 M * rs USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND 1117537345 M * rs root 3309 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? - May23 0:00 [sshd] 1117537345 M * rs sshd 3332 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? - May23 0:00 [sshd] 1117537345 M * rs sshd - 0.0 - - - - Z May23 0:00 - 1117537348 M * rs root 13643 0.0 0.5 2680 1452 pts/2 - 17:48 0:00 /bin/bash -login 1117537350 M * rs root - 0.0 - - - - S 17:48 0:00 - 1117537353 M * rs root 13901 0.0 0.3 2564 844 pts/2 - 17:51 0:00 ps auxm 1117537355 M * rs root - 0.0 - - - - R+ 17:51 0:00 - 1117537375 M * Bertl ;) 1117537610 M * Doener` hum hum... 1117537648 M * Doener` Bertl: i don't see sshd being threaded... 1117537651 M * rs it doesn't look like expected ? 1117537754 M * Doener` rs: it doesn't look like it wants to tell me something ;) 1117537926 M * Bertl Doener`: in general or in this list? 1117537994 M * Doener` both ;) 1117538012 M * Doener` hm... s/general/my box/ ;) 1117538472 M * Bertl hmm, indeed, they seem to have their own session 1117538513 M * Doener` but it's interesting that the second sshd still has a thread although it's a zombie 1117538619 M * Bertl probably 3309 is the parent of 3332 1117538630 M * Doener` yep 1117538657 M * Bertl and most likely it's defunct because 'init' was already killed 1117538681 M * Doener` should get reaped by the host's init then, shouldn't it? 1117538738 M * Bertl well, I have at least two 'FIXME' in the code ;) 1117538746 M * Vudumen hi allz :) 1117538759 M * Bertl Doener`: but yeah, that's what we observed in _all_ test cases 1117538771 M * Bertl hey Vudumen! 1117540532 Q * prae Remote host closed the connection 1117541087 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1117542773 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1117543400 J * knoppix_ ~knoppix@dsl-213-023-129-094.arcor-ip.net 1117544246 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1117544246 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1117544940 M * Vudumen Bertl: an interesting thing. when my colleague tried to strace the "/bin/bash vshelper shutdown 101" or somthing like that process the kernel just dropped a panic 1117544970 M * Bertl hmm, indeed interesting ... logs? 1117546172 Q * albeiro Read error: Connection reset by peer 1117546173 Q * romke Read error: Connection reset by peer 1117547778 J * gentoo ~gentoo@host102-41.pool8248.interbusiness.it 1117547784 M * gentoo hi at all 1117547868 M * Vudumen Bertl: well we don't have too much :/ 1117547888 M * Vudumen the machine restarted and worked without vservers 1117547901 M * Bertl welcome gentoo! 1117547949 M * Bertl Vudumen: well, what about a console log from the oops? 1117547952 M * FaUl Bertl: any planings on when you have time for that ngnet-stuff? 1117547986 M * Bertl no, but it looks promising (seems like I'm finished with 2.0 tonight) 1117548005 M * gentoo is there someone can help me, please? 1117548053 M * Bertl very likely there is ... what do you need? 1117548116 M * gentoo i'm not able to start a vserver 1117548121 M * gentoo i'm using a gentoo 1117548124 M * Vudumen Bertl: we don't have :( it was about 6 hours since our server died and it was very important to start it again 1117548143 M * Vudumen we have the first 3 lines from the output of strace and ps aux 1117548171 M * gentoo i installed a new patched kernel 1117548174 M * Bertl gentoo: 'vserver start' ? 1117548191 M * gentoo Bertl: i know thanks but i got an error 1117548205 M * Bertl Vudumen: well, you should put serial consoles wherever possible ... 1117548225 M * Bertl gentoo: hmm, wait .. let me look into my crystal ball what it is ... 1117548243 M * Bertl gentoo: ah, now I see it clearly ... a misconfiguration ;) 1117548291 M * gentoo Bertl: wait please, i'm trying to collect all infos... 1117548349 M * gentoo i followed this http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6 guide and all was fine 1117548368 M * gentoo then i tryed to create a filesystem 1117548405 M * gentoo a slackware file system but i'm not able to run the command u suggested me before...the error i receve is the following 1117548425 M * gentoo The following problem(s) were encountered while verifying vshelper 1117548425 M * gentoo functionality: 1117548425 M * gentoo * The configured vshelper '/sbin/vshelper' does not match the 'vshelper' 1117548425 M * gentoo script of the util-vserver package 1117548425 M * gentoo To fix this, you can: 1117548426 M * gentoo * disable vshelper entirely by executing 1117548428 M * gentoo | touch "/etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vshelper/disabled" 1117548430 M * gentoo * disable only this message by executing 1117548432 M * gentoo | touch "/etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vshelper/warning-disabled" 1117548434 M * gentoo * configure the util-vserver vshelper script, e.g. by adding 1117548436 M * gentoo | kernel.vshelper = "/usr/lib/util-vserver/vshelper" 1117548438 M * gentoo to /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooting the machine, or by executing 1117548440 M * gentoo | echo "/usr/lib/util-vserver/vshelper" >/proc/sys/kernel/vshelper 1117548442 M * gentoo Failed to start vserver '100' 1117548456 M * gentoo i didn't have /sbin/vshelper 1117548472 M * Bertl well, how did you install the tools? (util-vserver) 1117548480 M * gentoo obviously i already installed vserver-utils 1117548489 M * Bertl yeah, but how? 1117548497 M * gentoo with emerge 1117548521 M * gentoo it is the "only" way to install gentoo software 1117548530 M * Bertl then the emerge is broken, if it doesn't create/install /sbin/vshelper or set the kernel helper to the correct path 1117548542 M * Bertl and no, you can also install them by hand, right? 1117548556 M * Bertl (don't think gentoo takes away that freedom ;) 1117548562 M * gentoo yes but it is not a good think on a gentoo box 1117548587 M * gentoo we are not here to speak about distros i think 1117548592 M * Bertl so what about doing what suggested ... preferable the 'echo' 1117548645 M * gentoo do u mean what happens when i give: echo "/usr/lib/util-vserver/vshelper" >/proc/sys/kernel/vshelper command? 1117548658 M * gentoo nothing 1117548669 M * Bertl and if you now try the vserver ... again? 1117548673 M * gentoo secure-mount: chdir("/tmp"): No such file or directory 1117548673 M * gentoo /etc/vservers/100/fstab:2:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1117548673 M * gentoo find: var/run: No such file or directory 1117548673 M * gentoo fakerunlevel: open("/var/run/utmp"): No such file or directory 1117548673 M * gentoo Failed to start vserver '100' 1117548698 M * gentoo nothing i meant the error persists 1117548699 M * gentoo sorry 1117548708 M * Bertl now the question is: how did you create the guest and config? 1117548753 M * Bertl and objection again: the vshelper error is hopefully gone now 1117548847 M * gentoo i already used that command (echo i mean) in the past but as u can see every time i start up the sistem i got that problem 1117548931 M * gentoo now i don't know to fix that problem (but why the testme.sh should tell me that all is fine? 1117548957 M * Bertl that's why it also suggests that you do the second mentioned thing 1117548971 M * Bertl (but without the quotes IIRC) 1117548991 M * Bertl (the /etc/sysctl.conf stuff) 1117549041 M * gentoo and the config that u suggest me to create. How can i create it? and what kind lines i must put into it? 1117549100 M * gentoo do u mean to put into sysctl.conf this line: kernel.vshelper = "/usr/lib/util-vserver/vshelper"? 1117549133 M * gentoo already done... 1117549259 M * Bertl except for thedouble quotes, yes 1117549278 M * Bertl (which is already filed as bug report) 1117549279 M * gentoo ok 1117549313 M * Bertl so how was the guest created? 1117549338 M * gentoo guest? 1117549351 M * Bertl guest = vps = vserver 1117549372 M * gentoo uhmmm or filesystem? 1117549387 M * Bertl hmm, filesystem + config = guest 1117549392 M * gentoo i would like to create a slackware filesystem it was my old distro 1117549398 M * gentoo ah ok 1117549426 M * gentoo but the guide tells me that i must already booted a vserver 1117549462 M * Bertl for what? 1117549480 M * gentoo sorry a moment. can u suggest me how to change the font size....i'm trying it from an hour 1117549481 M * gentoo :) 1117549500 M * Bertl font size of what? 1117549529 M * gentoo to follow the guide to create a slackware filesystem...i must start a vserver before 1117549540 M * gentoo the font size of xchat (sorry ) 1117549556 M * Bertl any folks around using xchat? 1117549582 M * gentoo i'm the only :( 1117549591 M * Bertl seems so atm ... 1117549600 M * gentoo yeah... 1117549640 M * gentoo found! 1117549646 M * gentoo how to change the font 1117549649 M * gentoo :) 1117549650 M * gentoo ok 1117549661 M * gentoo now i can read.... 1117549664 M * gentoo :) 1117549705 M * gentoo ok 1117549744 M * gentoo now please tell me what i must do...sorry for my bad english and sorry because i'm a beginner :) 1117549774 M * Bertl no problem with either ... 1117549780 M * gentoo thanks 1117549800 M * Bertl well, obviously you have something you call filesystem, yes? 1117549813 M * gentoo ok 1117549814 M * Bertl (for the guest) 1117549816 M * gentoo reiserfs 1117549823 M * gentoo ok 1117549828 M * gentoo ops 1117549846 M * gentoo i don't have a filesystem fot the guest 1117549855 M * gentoo how can i get it? 1117549857 M * Bertl what are you trying to start then? 1117549871 M * gentoo infact i don't know... 1117549884 M * gentoo the start up process is not so clear for me 1117549896 M * Bertl hmm ... maybe you should start with something easy like installing a debian guest 1117549905 M * gentoo uhmmm ok 1117549918 M * gentoo i previously downloaded a debian filesystem 1117549929 M * gentoo but now what i must do? 1117549931 M * Bertl you know and did read this url? http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1117549942 M * gentoo a moment, please 1117550126 M * gentoo uhmm yes i read it...but something was not fine...anyway i will try to follow an other time that guide. thanks! 1117550142 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1117550180 M * gentoo thx 1117550375 M * gentoo sorry another question....the --interface option sets the host ip, or the guest ip? 1117550391 M * gentoo the guest i think... 1117550420 M * gentoo and must it be different from host ip? 1117550510 M * gentoo and the last one...giving this command: vserver 100 build -m debootstrap --hostname cronos --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.3.1/21 --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian how can vserver understand where to get the debian fs that i stored somewhere into my host filesystem? 1117550574 M * gentoo it will download it from the net? 1117550626 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1117550629 P * jsambrook 1117550863 M * gentoo ok i exec: vserver 100 build -m debootstrap --hostname cronos --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.0.100/24 --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian but when i give this other command: vserver 100 start i get this error: secure-mount: chdir("/tmp"): No such file or directory 1117550863 M * gentoo /etc/vservers/100/fstab:2:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1117550863 M * gentoo find: var/run: No such file or directory 1117550863 M * gentoo fakerunlevel: open("/var/run/utmp"): No such file or directory 1117550864 M * gentoo Failed to start vserver '100' 1117551227 M * Bertl what did the 'vserver 100 build' ... say? 1117551313 M * gentoo 100 sould be the name of my vserver 1117551327 M * Bertl yeah, a curious name, but so be it ... 1117551351 M * gentoo "so be it..."? 1117551365 M * gentoo my english is really bad! :( 1117551398 M * Bertl the name is curious, but if you like it to be "100" then this is it ... 1117551429 M * Bertl the question was: what did 'vserver 100 build -m debootstrap ...' return? 1117551452 M * gentoo nothing it goes fine 1117551468 M * Bertl how long does it take? 1117551479 M * gentoo less then a second 1117551491 M * Bertl that's very unlikely to have worked correctly 1117551511 M * Bertl it should fetch the entire debian distro from the net 1117551528 M * Bertl (which is unlikely to succeed within a second ;) 1117551569 M * gentoo the entire debian from the net??????????? ARGH! :) 1117551592 M * Bertl # vserver 100 build -m debootstrap --hostname cronos --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.0.100/24 --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian 1117551595 M * Bertl 17:04:15 URL:http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.2.45-0.2_i386.deb [72236/72236] -> "/var/tmp/debootstrap.k18cx5/debootstrap.deb" [1] 1117551598 M * Bertl I: Retrieving debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_Release 1117551601 M * Bertl I: Validating debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_Release 1117551603 M * Bertl I: Retrieving debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_main_binary-i386_Packages 1117551604 M * Bertl this is how it looks here (except for the exiting ;) 1117551606 M * Bertl E: Interrupt caught ... exiting 1117551611 M * aba gentoo: depends what you define as net - I have a local mirror :) 1117551662 M * Bertl gentoo: I guess your tools are either broken or you are using/doing something different ... 1117551678 M * gentoo uhmmm.... 1117551722 M * gentoo aba: with -I can i set up a local mirror? or i must anyway download all the debian? 1117551727 M * Bertl anyway .. I have to leave now ... but I'll be back later in the evening ... (and folks around here will be able to help you too) 1117551742 M * gentoo Bertl: thanks anyway for your help! :) 1117551752 M * Bertl again, you're weclome! 1117551764 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1117551881 M * aba gentoo: don't use a local mirror but just a proxy. The local mirror is only useful if you have downloaded all of DEbian for other reasons ... 1117551915 M * gentoo so i will need to download all from the net anyway.... 1117551935 M * gentoo anyway i don't use a proxy 1117552921 Q * eyck Remote host closed the connection 1117553580 M * Doener` gentoo: not _all_ the packages... just those for a base system, less than 100MB IIRC 1117553625 M * gentoo uhmmm ok but how can i do it? the vserve build command does not work 1117553646 M * gentoo or better it does not download anything 1117553899 M * Doener` does it give _any_ output? 1117554031 M * gentoo no 1117554360 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1117555088 Q * brc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1117555155 J * Doener_ ~doener@p548750E0.dip.t-dialin.net 1117555588 Q * Doener` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1117555687 J * sebd ~sebd@81.56.247.131 1117555911 M * gentoo c'e' qualche italiano che ha voglia di darmi una mano? 1117555970 M * Pazzo ci sono :-) continuamo... 1117557144 N * _mcp mcp 1117559033 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting 1117559267 Q * ruuth Quit: Nettalk6 der Freeware IRC-Client 1117560168 M * Pazzo gentoo's problem solved: as he was using utils 0.30.196 /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/debootstrap/uri wasn't up2date 1117560530 M * Pazzo ehm... actually there was no debootstrap/uri - a default address where to find debootstrap is proconfigured somewhere in util-vserver 1117560551 M * Pazzo this url wasn't up2date in 0.30.196 and adding a correct uri file was the solution 1117560584 Q * rs Quit: rs 1117561692 J * albeiro ~albeiro@albeiro.usercloak.oftc.net 1117562037 Q * berni Read error: Connection reset by peer 1117562039 J * berni ~berni@svr01.mucip.net 1117562060 N * berni Guest21 1117562115 M * Doener_ Hollow: hm, maybe it's time to unmask some more recent version of util-vserver? 1117562211 M * DaPhreak heh, yeah .. especially .205-r1 ;) since it honours USE="glibc" aka USE="hardened" *ducks* 1117562348 M * gentoo DaPhreak: probably u use a gentoo. isn't true? 1117562395 M * DaPhreak yep, I use it, actually on my laptop, desktop and most of my servers 1117562487 M * gentoo i'm using gentoo me too...as u can understand from my nick ;) 1117562711 M * DaPhreak heh, well it isn't far away ;P 1117562791 M * DaPhreak why are you asking ? 1117562813 M * gentoo only to know.... 1117562814 M * gentoo :) 1117564292 M * gentoo Is someone that was able to create a slackware filesystem on their machine? 1117564611 M * gentoo no? all people here are using a debian filesystem :( 1117564614 M * gentoo ? 1117564637 M * daniel_hozac aren't slackware "packages" just regular tarballs? 1117564697 M * gentoo yes tgz 1117564707 J * frzzz pjetjq@jaim.at 1117564723 M * gentoo but how can i install them since i don't have a slackware filesystem installed on my machine? 1117564729 M * frzzz hi 1117564740 M * gentoo and how can i install a slackware filesystem on my machine? 1117564743 M * gentoo hi frzzz 1117564784 J * romke ~romke@procyon.romke.net 1117564847 M * daniel_hozac did you try the precooked slackware image from http://debian.marlow.dk/vserver/guest/ ? 1117565008 M * gentoo oh..no... 1117565010 M * gentoo thanks 1117565026 M * frzzz just a short question ;) - did not find any up2date information about which vroot patch works with patch-2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5.diff, i tried vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ FOR-1.9.6/delta-vroot-feat01.diff but vroot module fails to load and dmesg tells me "vroot: Unknown symbol __iget" - any suggestions? 1117565041 Q * eXplasm2 Read error: No route to host 1117565085 M * daniel_hozac frzzz: why aren't you running 2.0-rc? 1117565092 M * daniel_hozac the patch is included, IIRC. 1117565096 J * eXplasm explasm@p549FFD95.dip.t-dialin.net 1117565190 M * frzzz ;) thats a good question - i looked at 13th.floor.at for actual 2.6 patches - where to get 2.0rc ? 1117565225 M * daniel_hozac http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.11.10-vs2.0-rc2.diff 1117565264 M * frzzz ;) i already mentioned this - thanks a lot 1117565359 M * frzzz and working vroot is included - only for dedicated partition or is this working on shared vserver partitions too? 1117565440 M * daniel_hozac well, vroot for dedicated partitions is fairly useless, isn't it? ;) 1117565576 M * frzzz hm, in 2.4 i used it for getting quotas working - also on a extra partition for each vserver - did i miss anything 1117565738 M * daniel_hozac you could just give the vserver QUOTA_CTL and the device node for dedicated partitions, IIRC. 1117566942 M * frzzz so simply adding QUOTA_CTL to bcapabilites should do the trick? and i dont need vroot to have quotas for dedicated vserver partitions - thats fine :) 1117567460 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1117567601 Q * gentoo Quit: Leaving 1117567769 N * Guest21 berni 1117567792 N * berni Guest22 1117567905 Q * rs Quit: rs 1117567985 N * Guest22 berni 1117568316 M * frzzz ok thank you very much - after starting quotas in main server it is wokring inside vserver too :D 1117568565 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1117569602 P * frzzz 1117571230 N * stupidawy stupidnic 1117571484 N * stupidnic stupidawy 1117571630 Q * sebd Read error: Connection reset by peer 1117573117 Q * rs Quit: rs 1117575158 J * gentoo ~gentoo@host104-41.pool8248.interbusiness.it 1117575202 M * gentoo hi at all 1117575224 M * gentoo can someone help me to install a slackware file system? 1117575248 M * gentoo i'm able to find istruction to install a slackware file system 1117575300 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1117575302 M * gentoo i alredy installed a debian filesistem (thanks to Pazzo for that) but now i'm not able to install a slack filesystem 1117575330 M * gentoo infact i don't know the mothod to use to install that fs 1117575384 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, advising to 'not using' the vroot device and instead copying over the block device is a poor advice ... because it basically roots your host system ... 1117575434 M * daniel_hozac i thought that was the "solution" used before the vroot was ported to 2.6. 1117575466 M * gentoo i followed the slackware howto but it assumes that the system is already bootted 1117575819 J * hwarrier ~harikb@64.161.133.227 1117575866 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: well, it's not secure without the vroot device ... 1117575906 M * Bertl welcome hwarrier! 1117575927 M * Bertl gentoo: well, I don't know how to install slackware into a directory either ... 1117575960 M * gentoo either? 1117575962 M * daniel_hozac ah. 1117575986 M * albeiro 1117575996 M * albeiro install it anywhere and tar up 1117575999 M * albeiro 1117576022 M * gentoo albeiro are you speaking with me? 1117576040 M * albeiro yes if it is you who want to install slackware into a dir 1117576057 M * albeiro but heh why cannot you follow excelent gentoo vserver guide ? 1117576132 M * hwarrier hello, I am trying to use vserver 2.0 (alpha, I believe) with debian. So I have a dummy interface dummy0 with an internal IP and using SNAT to masquerade internal IPs to the real IP on eth0. However when I try more than one vserver, I can't seem to use aliases on dummy0 (like dummy0:0). I read somewhere about vserver 2 not using aliases. So how do I go about giving a device for the second vserver? 1117576133 M * gentoo because it suppose that i already booted but to boot i need to create a slack file system(i think). I tryied to create an "empty" filesystem with "-m skeleton" option but it does not boot 1117576169 M * albeiro gentoo: are you doing vserver setup on gentoo as host system ? 1117576182 M * albeiro you could have also gentoo as a guest 1117576187 M * gentoo ok 1117576198 M * albeiro and there is a guide somewhere, let me dig it for you... 1117576202 M * gentoo but i'm trying all distribution that i can 1117576215 M * gentoo no i already seen it 1117576222 M * albeiro ah, ok 1117576279 M * gentoo but now i wish to install a slack file system. :) is it impossible? why someone should use vserver if it is impossible to create a slackware fs, or a yellowdog fs, and so on... 1117576308 M * albeiro actualy it can be tricky to install any traditional distribution without booting its installation cd and doing it to some spare disk 1117576313 M * gentoo is the vserver support only for so few distribution? 1117576341 M * albeiro vserver itself is distrubution independent, just a matter of configuration 1117576404 M * daniel_hozac although some distributions are more supported than others ;) 1117576453 M * albeiro indeed :) 1117576457 M * gentoo uhmm ok...wonderfull....but isn't this the comunity that explain how to configure it? and why this comunity is not able to unswer me? am i the first person that tries to install a slackware? it is impossbile, i think 1117576464 M * gentoo :) 1117576476 M * daniel_hozac did you not see the image i pointed you to? 1117576494 M * gentoo you pointed me? 1117576546 M * gentoo i already downloaded a slack filesystem boot how i can install it? the command: vserver 100 build -m debootstrap --hostname cronos --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.0.100/24 --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian 1117576550 M * albeiro Bertl is our guru we believe in ;) but i don't remember anybody trying slackware with vserver. it is possible just non trivial. 1117576557 M * gentoo is only for debian i suppose.... 1117576557 M * daniel_hozac check the IRC logs for 3 hours and 15 minutes ago. 1117576565 M * albeiro anyway he will know more 1117576577 M * daniel_hozac yes, debootstrap is a Debian utility. 1117576617 M * gentoo infact...i already downloaded the slackfilesystem but i don't know the command to "make it usefull" 1117576631 M * gentoo and the slack guide suppose that i already booted.... 1117576644 M * albeiro ah, so mayby you should just loop mount it ? 1117576647 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: aside from that remark, thanks for helping folks out ... 1117576655 M * gentoo am i so stupid or is it a good question? 1117576660 M * gentoo yes 1117576674 M * albeiro mount slack_fs somewhere -o loop 1117576679 M * gentoo sorry for my bad english i know only few english words 1117576687 M * gentoo ohhhh thanks! 1117576710 M * albeiro you're welcome ;] 1117576734 M * gentoo and then must i enter into it with vserver enter? 1117576752 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i merely reiterate what i read here ;) 1117576775 M * daniel_hozac gentoo: there's a readme for those images at http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/vserver 1117576781 Q * gentoo Remote host closed the connection 1117576783 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: which is obviously much better than the documentation ;) 1117576851 J * gentoo ~gentoo@host104-41.pool8248.interbusiness.it 1117576861 M * gentoo sorry a little crash 1117576936 Q * knoppix_ Remote host closed the connection 1117577025 M * albeiro no problem crashes are common on irc ;] 1117577034 M * gentoo thx 1117577140 M * gentoo anyway as i was explaining...the problem is that the slack guide suppose that i can use che installpkg tool that is a slack tool to install tgz packages, but at the same time i'm not able to start a vserver session because i still has not a working vserver system...probably i'm not able to understand where i'm wrong... 1117577463 M * micah what is it that starts vservers on boot? 1117577478 M * daniel_hozac the vservers-default initscript. 1117577508 M * Hollow hey folks 1117577510 M * gentoo i'm not undertanding someone is speaking with me? 1117577512 M * daniel_hozac with a plain util-vserver anyway. 1117577515 M * gentoo hi Hollow 1117577528 M * daniel_hozac gentoo: did you read the README for that slackware image? 1117577543 M * gentoo a README? where? 1117577554 M * gentoo i read the slackware guide 1117577557 M * gentoo ... 1117577560 M * daniel_hozac http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/vserver 1117577569 M * gentoo thanks daniel 1117577749 M * Bertl micah: a sysv init script? 1117577760 M * Bertl greetings Hollow! 1117577761 M * micah daniel_hozac: because one vserver didn't start on boot, I am reading this initscript and am not understanding how I can track that down 1117577765 M * Hollow hm, i can't mark 205-r1 stable as long as >=dev-libs/dietlibc-0.26 isn't stable 1117577775 M * Hollow Doener_: ^ 1117577786 M * Doener_ grrr ;) 1117577812 M * Hollow though 0.27 has been in cvs since oct 2004 1117577823 M * Hollow i'll file a stable mark request 1117577841 M * daniel_hozac micah: it only starts vservers that have "default" in /apps/init/mark, IIRC. 1117577854 M * Doener_ in a few days debian might have more recent dietlibc/util-vserver packages in stable than gentoo ;) 1117577862 M * Hollow lol ;) 1117577865 M * aba Doener_: you mean, on Monday. 1117577883 M * micah daniel_hozac: is there a flag that sets that at build-time? 1117577892 M * DaCa is topic out of date or is delta-vs2.0-rc2-rc3 extremely experimental? 1117577893 M * daniel_hozac micah: you can change it in the script. 1117577903 M * Doener_ aba: i'll stick to 'a few days' ;) you never know... 1117577944 M * aba Doener_: well, actually, I should :P 1117578014 M * hwarrier anyone want to take a stab at my question? 1117578058 M * Bertl hwarrier: did I miss it? 1117578096 M * Bertl yeah, obviously I did ... sec reading up 1117578132 M * hwarrier hmmm.. can't seem to copy-&-paste in this tool I am using. Anyway, here is my Q again.. 1117578144 M * Bertl hwarrier: hmm, first, why would you like to use dummy? 1117578166 M * Bertl second, what is the issue with having as many aliases/ips on dummy as you like? 1117578185 M * hwarrier that's the only way I knew to give IPs that are only internal to the machine 1117578200 M * Bertl hmm, no, dummy is not 'internal' 1117578202 M * hwarrier basically I want to share one eth0 with multiple vservers 1117578267 M * hwarrier even when I have multiple external IPs, I have more freedom this way if vservers use their own IP (192.168.0.1, 2 etc ) and I will map things appropriately from outside depending on which vserver needs what. 1117578276 M * Bertl which sounds fine to me ... 1117578300 M * hwarrier since I had to declare these IPs somewhere, I am using dummy0 1117578308 M * Bertl okay, so be it ... 1117578347 M * hwarrier I am using utils-verser 0.30 (if that matters). So I have put /etc/vservers/vs1/interface/0/dev to be dummy0 and ip to be 192.168.0.1 1117578384 M * Bertl hmm, you are using 2.0-rc* (which by the way is not alpha, but a release candidate for the 2.6 stable branch) 1117578390 M * hwarrier so far everything works fine. Now how do I use dummy0 for a second vserver? How do I tell it to create an alias on dummy0 instead of replacing the IP on dummy0 1117578399 M * Bertl but you are using ancient userspace tools? 1117578442 M * albeiro Bertl: can i ask you offtopic question ? 1117578452 M * Bertl hwarrier: what distro do you use? 1117578455 M * Bertl albeiro: sure ... 1117578469 M * albeiro if i can mmap() pipe object ? i can read() or write() it, obviously 1117578486 M * albeiro but would it be possible to mmap() it ? there is kernel function anon_pipe_buf_map()/unmap 1117578489 M * albeiro in fs/pipe.c 1117578494 M * hwarrier here is what I got. I have debian sarge (testing). I got kernel 2.6.11, put the vs2.0 patch, and got utils-vserver 0.30.something (how do I find the exact version, not sure) 1117578515 M * Bertl albeiro: mmap has protection levels ... 1117578569 M * hwarrier util-vserver 0.30.204-5 1117578589 M * albeiro Bertl: so... ? ;) what we are doing is just intercepting read()/write() and similar (like pipe creating / destroying) in RSBAC. i do not want to have it bypassed by mmap() 1117578590 M * Bertl albeiro: but I have no idea what a mmap-ing will do with a pipe ... 1117578598 M * albeiro have to try it ;) 1117578630 M * Bertl hwarrier: okay, that sounds better ... 1117578674 M * Bertl what you want is to get a new IP on dummy, right? 1117578697 M * Bertl and you are using private IPs for the vservers on dummy, yes? 1117578711 M * hwarrier s, without clobering the other vs. I tried putting dummy0:0 in the dev file, but that didnt work 1117578724 M * Bertl because it's the wrong way ;) 1117578740 M * Bertl so the best way to do that is the following: 1117578744 M * Doener_ hwarrier: no need to worry about 'overwriting' ip addresses... the kernel can handle more than one address per interface without aliases 1117578772 M * Bertl hwarrier: you dedicate a special IP in the private range for the host 1117578775 M * Doener_ ifconfig won't show them, but "ip addr show" or just "ip a" will do 1117578795 M * Bertl hwarrier: you assign that ip to dummy0 at system startup 1117578803 M * Bertl (let's assume it's 192.168.0.1) 1117578823 M * Bertl this avoids that stopping a guest will bring down the others later 1117578839 M * Bertl (which is how linux networking unfortunately works) 1117578839 A * Doener_ .oO( remember to stick a note regarding primary/secondary hell somewhere on the screen... ) 1117578874 M * Bertl Doener_: btw, we probably should change that sooner or later ... 1117578876 M * hwarrier I am with u so far... 1117578896 M * Bertl hwarrier: okay, then you put 'dummy0' into the dev file 1117578906 M * Bertl and the ip in the ip file 1117578931 M * Bertl if you actually want to 'see' an alias, then also add some text to the 'name' file 1117578947 M * Doener_ Bertl: it would basically mean s/check if this is primary/check if there are no other addresses in this net left/ 1117578949 M * Doener_ right? 1117578962 M * Bertl hwarrier: the alias will then be named dummy:%name 1117579026 M * Bertl Doener_: well, best solution IMHO (and that's how I 'thought' it would work in the first place ;) is to 'elect' a new primary, once the old one is removed ... 1117579064 M * Bertl because actually nobody cares about primary/secondary ... 1117579070 M * hwarrier thanks. I will try this in a few hours and get back 1117579096 M * Bertl hwarrier: you're welcome! 1117579114 M * Bertl Doener_: http://www.osdl.org/plm-cgi/plm?module=patch_info&patch_id=4493 1117579128 M * Doener_ hm, that would make the above check only happen if the primary is removed, thus saving a few cycles if a secondary is removed. otherwise it's the same as my idea, right? 1117579227 M * Bertl hmm, guess so ... didn't completely understand your saying ... 1117579246 M * Doener_ what happens now is: 1117579257 M * Doener_ if we remove the primary, remove all secondaries + route 1117579266 M * Bertl yup 1117579269 M * Doener_ and i suggested to substitute that with: 1117579293 M * Bertl ah, okay, got it ... 1117579300 M * Doener_ if we remove any address, check if it is the last address in this net, remove the route 1117579311 M * Bertl no, that won't work, because you have to have a primary ;) 1117579312 M * Doener_ i.e. basically dropping the primary/secondary completely 1117579336 M * Doener_ is it used for anything but route removal? 1117579353 M * Bertl it should be used for source address selection and other stuff 1117579368 M * Bertl (including the packet routing itself) 1117579416 M * Bertl FaUl: still around? 1117579570 M * Doener_ Bertl: did you figure out how to read the regress stuff yet? 1117579588 M * Doener_ i see the warnings, but i can't understand the error messages... 1117579612 M * Bertl ah ... well, I'm not even looking at them right now ;) 1117579634 M * Bertl I'm using the crosscompile_report script some osdl guy did put together 1117579648 M * Doener_ make[1]: [drivers/char/isicom.o] Error 1 (ignored) -- "Ah great, you ignored them... Guess I'll do the same then..." ;) 1117579651 M * Bertl (which does a comparison of the output of a patch to it's baseline= 1117579669 M * Bertl should I upload the scripts somewhere? 1117579760 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/crosscompile_report 1117579772 M * Bertl this requires: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/plmdiff 1117579832 M * Bertl which in turn requires: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/wwwdiff 1117579855 M * Bertl ./crosscompile_report 4493 (gives a report) 1117580004 M * hwarrier quick Q - can a vserver directory be copied (cp -Rp) to create a duplicate one? 1117580019 M * Bertl quick A: yes 1117580036 M * hwarrier and the same with /etc/vserver/ directory? 1117580047 M * Bertl hmm, no ... 1117580063 M * Bertl won't work, because it contains some symlinks 1117580230 M * gentoo i go to bed....bye bye and thanks at all 1117580240 Q * gentoo Quit: Leaving 1117580535 M * Bertl Doener_: and if I do not completely misinterpret the result of those reports, the linux-vserver patch removes a bunch of warnings ... 1117580611 M * Doener_ interesting :) 1117580737 M * Bertl I hope nobody here has a hotmail account ... msn stupidity forced me to block their domain ... 1117580862 M * hwarrier well after I copy my vservers directory, I can simply run "vserver vs2 build -m skeleton" 1117580863 M * hwarrier ? 1117580874 M * Bertl the other way round, but yes 1117580894 M * Bertl i.e. first do the skeleton (with --interface options ;) then copy over the 'template' 1117580924 M * hwarrier bertl: also you said something about using obsolete user-space tools. What did u mean by that? 1117580958 M * Bertl you said you where using 0.30 (which is ancient compared to 0.30.204 or 0.30.207 which is the current release) 1117580966 M * hwarrier oh ok 1117581387 M * albeiro interesting... 1117581392 M * hwarrier hmmm... when I shutdown the vserver, it says "shutdown eth0: Permission denied" in addition to "shutdown dummy0: permission denied". I can understand the last section. 1117581412 M * albeiro i have connected bluetooth mouse in May and it got detected in Jun ;] 1117581464 M * hwarrier I did try to use eth0 at some point in the past. Does it store the device information anywhere other than /etc/vservers/vsname/interface/0/dev ? 1117581467 M * Bertl hwarrier: your guest is not supposed to shutdown anything ... 1117581496 M * Bertl (well, mostly because it didn't start up anything except for the services in the first place ;) 1117581512 M * hwarrier I understand why it gets permission denied - I am just curious why it even tries eth0 1117581540 M * Bertl probably because your scripts have entries for eth0? 1117581706 M * hwarrier When I first created the vserver with "vserver build" I had used eth0. It must have put this value in some script, somewhere? 1117581755 M * Bertl look _inside_ the guest for answers ... 1117582079 M * hwarrier the solution you guys suggested works. Thanks a lot for your time. I have used freebsd jails for a while and I must say I am impressed with vservers. I miss null-mounts (I haven't looked at vunify) 1117582136 M * Bertl what are null-mounts? 1117582156 M * Vudumen Bertl: it's like mount -obind in linux 1117582185 M * hwarrier on host, I can say mount -t null -o ro /usr /home/vservers/vs1/usr etc... 1117582201 M * Bertl well, works fine with linux here too ... 1117582205 M * hwarrier make the /usr of host as a read-only mount to the jail 1117582231 M * hwarrier but does it work for any directory or just actual paritions? 1117582239 M * Bertl any directory 1117582250 M * hwarrier cool 1117582283 M * Bertl but, you have to use the BME patch if you want to mount a rw fs ro with --bind ... 1117582305 M * Bertl (this is a deficiency/bug in the mainline kernels) 1117582386 M * ciphernaut Bertl: check netmask from where? 1117582427 M * Bertl ciphernaut: in your config 1117582437 M * Bertl (or on the interfaces) 1117582493 M * hwarrier also it took me a while to figure out i need to use SNAT instead of MASQUERADE to NAT these dummy0 interfaces to eth0 (external) 1117582508 M * ciphernaut i didnt assign any aliases on the host eth0 1117582524 M * ciphernaut none of the configs specify any netmasks 1117582535 M * ciphernaut yet one vserver works and not the other 1117582545 M * Bertl ciphernaut: what does 'ip addr ls' show (on the host) 1117582568 M * Bertl hwarrier: well, a common mistake ... folks assume that the guests are routed ;) 1117582610 M * Bertl hwarrier: if you look closer at the dummy interface statistics, you will see that the interface isn't even used ;) 1117582642 Q * lilo Quit: brb 1117582704 M * ciphernaut it shows the ip addresses of all vservers, whether still running or shutdown already, with a /32 bitmask 1117582735 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1117582739 M * ciphernaut http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/741 1117582806 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1117582850 M * Bertl evening rs! 1117582863 M * rs evening bertl! 1117582897 M * ciphernaut hi rs! 1117582928 M * Bertl ciphernaut: two different networks? 1117582931 M * hwarrier bertl: I realised that after wasting hours on trying to tcpdump/tethereal on dummy0 :)