1116463636 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1116464264 Q * Johnsie Quit: G'bye! 1116464448 J * explasm__ explasm@p549FEE9D.dip.t-dialin.net 1116464524 J * Johnsie ~john@acs-24-154-32-12.zoominternet.net 1116464659 Q * eXplasm2 Read error: Operation timed out 1116466777 Q * ciphernaut Quit: 1116467810 Q * lilo Remote host closed the connection 1116468110 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1116469163 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1116469241 Q * lilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116470702 J * ntrs ruzin@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1116470718 Q * ntrs Quit: 1116473145 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1116473155 M * Bertl morning folks! 1116473689 M * Zoiah Mornin' Bertl! 1116477430 Q * Johnsie orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * Doener` orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * flock orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * orionpanda orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * meebey orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * ndim_ orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * FaUl orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * hellekin orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * Vudumen orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * kevinp orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * locksy orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * bro orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477430 Q * matti orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * gaba orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * matta orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * tchan orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * DuckMaster orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * Loki|muh_ orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * janra orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * daniel_hozac orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * sebd orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * alexx orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * click orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * Medivh orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * maharaja orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477431 Q * gregster orion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1116477498 J * maharaja maharaja@ipax.at 1116477508 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1116477518 J * janra janra@paradox.homeip.net 1116477532 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1116477705 J * _sebd ~sebd@lesdeveloppementsdurables.org 1116477705 J * Johnsie ~john@acs-24-154-32-12.zoominternet.net 1116477705 J * Doener` ~doener@p54873E6D.dip.t-dialin.net 1116477705 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1116477705 J * orionpanda ~nospam@netblock-66-245-252-180.dslextreme.com 1116477705 J * meebey meebey@meebey.net 1116477705 J * matta ~matta@69.93.28.254 1116477705 J * bro ~vanity@lanparty.lv 1116477705 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1116477705 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1116477705 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net 1116477705 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1116477705 J * hellekin ~hellekin@v41.ath.cx 1116477705 J * FaUl ~immo@ip88.164.1211G-CUD12K-01.ish.de 1116477705 J * ndim_ hun@helena.bawue.de 1116477705 J * gaba ~gaba@protest.net 1116477853 J * gregster ~gregor@greart.de 1116477860 J * click click@dsl-static-122-208.aal.tiscali.no 1116478229 J * DuckMaster ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1116478284 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@h56n2fls32o829.telia.com 1116478289 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176 1116479143 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1116486855 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1116487625 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1116489077 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1116489087 M * Bertl morning prae! 1116489721 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@host-62-69-64-93.bsve.net 1116489729 M * Bertl morning jsambrook! 1116489746 M * jsambrook morning bot 1116489751 M * Bertl lol 1116490887 M * Doener` morning 1116490893 M * Bertl morning Doener`! 1116491335 Q * rs Quit: rs 1116492152 P * jsambrook 1116492510 M * SiD3WiNDR whee 1116492517 M * SiD3WiNDR no more chmod 000 in debian package soon ;) 1116492582 M * Bertl yes? 1116492670 M * SiD3WiNDR http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=305216 1116492730 M * aba SiD3WiNDR: did you Cc control@bugs on your recent mail? 1116492775 M * aba uh, that was olas part. 1116492980 M * SiD3WiNDR ola cc'd control on only one :/ 1116493101 M * SiD3WiNDR can I just send a mail to control with the reopen stuff myself? 1116493142 M * aba yes, just copy the first lines ... 1116493241 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116493670 M * Doener` updated my port: http://www.13thfloor.at/~doener/vserver/patches/patch-2.6.12-rc4-vs2.0-rc1.diff 1116493670 Q * rs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1116493815 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116493828 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116496550 M * rs hey bertl 1116496560 M * Doener` hi rs 1116496567 M * rs hi doener 1116496609 M * rs I have still some issue with restarting vservers in 2.0-rc1 1116496651 M * Doener` does the dummy shutdown vshelper delegation script exist? 1116496751 M * rs ls -l `cat /proc/sys/kernel/vshelper ` 1116496752 M * rs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5769 Apr 20 15:49 /usr/lib/util-vserver/vshelper 1116496756 M * rs I'd say yes 1116496772 M * rs actually there is two issues 1116496793 M * rs the first is that reboot from inside vserver doesn't work at all 1116496795 M * Bertl rs: I'd say no ;) 1116496810 M * rs second is that some times, some vserver just won't die 1116496818 M * rs because one process remain in it 1116496831 M * rs and I have to manually kill it to let it die 1116496859 M * rs and I can't kill it from context 1, I have to be in the vserver's context to do it 1116496873 M * rs bertl: why you'd say no ? 1116496975 M * Bertl http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200505/0085.html 1116496984 Q * sukria Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116497010 M * rs nice 1116497031 M * Bertl what tools do you use, btw? 1116497033 M * Doener` rs: you can kill it from context 0, directly or via vkill 1116497052 M * rs 0.30.205-2 1116497058 M * rs with some patchs 1116497059 M * Bertl update to 0.30.207 1116497061 M * rs es 1116497070 M * rs ok 1116497088 M * rs I'm lazy those days ;) 1116497111 M * Bertl looks like ;) 1116497120 A * sladen too. My boxes are running a copy at least a year old; but I know it works :-) 1116497135 M * sladen sorry Bertl, not that I don't trust the newer stuff or anything ;-) 1116497175 M * Bertl sladen: which reminds me of your FAQ *G* 1116497954 J * alanhs ~icechat5@82-68-97-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1116497985 M * Bertl welcome alanhs! 1116498031 M * alanhs Hi, please forgive the newbie, but I was hoping to get some help with vserver 1116498045 M * Bertl alanhs: see topic ;) 1116498047 J * JohnL ~JohnL@nsnoc.plus.com 1116498055 M * Bertl welcome JohnL! 1116498088 M * Pazzo hi Bertl! 1116498096 M * Bertl hey Pazzo! 1116498121 M * alanhs So this is about the 'Development of' rather than 'Use of' ? 1116498124 M * Bertl alanhs: if I confused you, that meant: "go ahead, ask!" 1116498146 M * Doener` alanhs: this is about "everything linux-vserver" ;) 1116498220 M * alanhs Ok, so I have spent a few days trying to build a vserver, but I am a rank newbie and have failed.... 1116498239 M * Bertl unusual but hey, shit happens ... 1116498260 M * Bertl alanhs: what version/tools did you try? 1116498271 M * alanhs :-) I think my first question is "Can I just download a pre-built system?" 1116498302 M * Bertl no ;) 1116498320 M * alanhs Ok, so that was TOO easy a solution ;-) 1116498385 M * alanhs Ok the next question is "Given I can use any stock distribution RH, SUSE, etc. Is there a 'Better' starting point" 1116498410 M * Bertl better than what? 1116498447 M * Bertl you said, you 'tried' but 'failed' ... so what did you try and how did you fail? 1116498463 M * Pazzo Bertl: any news about the vshelper workaround? and do you need also positive feedback on vs2.0-rc1 or just bug reports? 1116498489 M * Bertl Pazzo: positive feedback is appreciated too ... 1116498498 M * alanhs Sorry, that was a bad way to phrase it. I ultimatly want a machine that runs mutiple RH9 installations, should I start with a RH install then apply the vserver ? 1116498535 M * Bertl RH as in RHEL, Centos, Fedora ? 1116498546 M * Bertl (the base system) 1116498563 J * rs_ ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116498573 M * alanhs Well that is really the question, I have a blank machine, I can make it what I want 1116498594 Q * rs Read error: Operation timed out 1116498595 M * Pazzo Bertl: we didn't meet any issues (after the vshelper workaround -> zombies) with vs2.0-rc1 on our test system, everything is running fine 1116498601 M * Bertl alanhs: k, in this case I'd start with FC2 or FC3 minimum install 1116498628 M * Bertl alanhs: then replace the kernel with a self built vserver kernel 2.6.11.10-vs2.0-rc1 1116498644 M * Bertl Pazzo: great! 1116498689 M * alanhs Perfect. Now I have looked and worked through some of the howtos. the one I am trying now is http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6. Do you know it ? 1116498752 M * Bertl yep, should be fine, just use most recent versions ... 1116498783 M * Bertl kernel: 2.6.11.10, patch: vs2.0-rc1, tools: 0.30.207 1116498831 M * alanhs Great, well here I go, thanks for the help! 1116498843 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1116498887 M * alanhs I will let you know how it goes :-) 1116498939 M * Bertl feel free to hang around ... 1116499090 M * alanhs I will, I might just learn something - these last few days of vserver stuff has been a really interesting learning experence! 1116499187 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116499241 J * TeraX ~terax@195.37.209.41 1116499244 M * TeraX Hi 1116499249 M * Bertl welcome TeraX! 1116499256 M * TeraX thanks Bertl 1116499271 M * Bertl last time you had some issues with the kernel, IIRC? 1116499322 M * TeraX yes but now the kernel is correctly compiled and now i must testing to configure and install new vserver 1116499342 M * Bertl okay, so testme.sh works fine now, right? 1116499352 M * TeraX yes 1116499357 M * Bertl good! 1116499371 M * TeraX now i'm searching a good (german) howto :) 1116499501 M * Bertl let me know if you find one ;) 1116499534 M * TeraX dou you have a good english howto? 1116499544 Q * rs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116499556 M * Bertl there are a bunch of examples on the alpha util-vserver page 1116499569 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1116499638 M * TeraX ok 1116499672 Q * rs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116499720 M * TeraX Gibts hier eigentlich mehrere Leute die deutsch sprechen oder ist das only english? 1116499736 M * Pazzo Bertl: we'll probably switch our productional servers to 2.6.11.10-vs2.0-rc1 this weekend - I'll let you know if I was sleeping well ;-) 1116499825 M * Pazzo it's really time to change kernel now as we are still running some 2.6.9 stuff - I'm not really happy with them, uptime (at least on one heavy loaded host) is good but from time to time there are different issues like xids remaining active after a vserver reboot etc 1116499835 M * Pazzo or also freezes :-( 1116499878 M * Pazzo but I'm sure with the new kernel everything will become better, weather will change, beer will be free... 1116499908 M * Pazzo hallelujah! 1116499938 M * Bertl rejoiced! 1116499990 M * Pazzo ;-) 1116500160 J * nox_ ~nox@noxlux.de 1116500262 M * Doener` TeraX: several folks speak german (Pazzo, Bertl, myself...), but in this channel it's english only, because there are folks who wouldn't understand a thing if you start speaking german ;) 1116500294 M * TeraX okay no problem 1116500305 M * TeraX i heard you are from isp4p? 1116500364 M * Doener` i do stuff for them from time to time... but lately i got less and less time to do anything there... 1116500370 Q * nox_ Quit: 1116500389 M * Doener` i.e. i'm not an employee ;) 1116500416 M * TeraX kay ;) 1116500416 J * DuckMaster ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1116501031 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting 1116501817 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1116501838 M * Bertl morning eyck! DuckMaster! 1116501862 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116501938 M * Bertl Doener`: what do you think of this approach: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/SYSCALL/syscall_new.h 1116501997 M * Doener` hm, i think that i don't understand much of that code ;) 1116502036 M * Bertl well, looking at alpha and i386 (the only two implemented archs in this file) you should get an idea 1116502080 M * Bertl it basically eliminates the endless repetitions for each syscallX ... 1116502172 M * Bertl I'm not sure if preprocessor magic is the right choice here, but it seemed more natural to me than doing some magic script which generates the file ;) 1116502325 M * eyck morning Bertl! 1116502373 M * eyck a bit offtopic - when working in vserver I feel some kind of 'lag' especially when sitting in vim, from time to time the session freezes for few seconds, 1116502394 M * Bertl single guest on single host? 1116502434 M * eyck multiple guests, but not doing anything, 1116502445 M * eyck load avg stays in low 0.01 - 0.02 1116502470 M * eyck so it's not really obvious that it's other ververs stressing the discs 1116502526 M * Bertl well, schedulers need improvement regarding latency ... 1116502763 M * eyck hmm, you think that low-latency extensions for 2.4.x would help? 1116503077 M * Bertl well, I don't know your setup .. raising or lowering the HZ values could help, you are with 2.4? 1116503219 N * lilo_ lilo 1116503786 M * eyck yup. 1116503798 M * eyck bleeding edge, 2.4.30 1116503914 M * Bertl well, switching to 2.6 might help a lot too ;) 1116504048 J * ntrs ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1116504450 M * eyck yeah, but that would cause serious headaches in other areas 1116507167 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp1-150.ethz.ch 1116507643 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1116509581 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1116509638 Q * nox jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * rs jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * eyck jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * DuckMaster jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * Loki|muh jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * janra jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * maharaja jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * lilo jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * romke jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * virtuoso jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * mugwump jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * stupidawy jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * DaPhreak jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * SNy jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * micah jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * pusling jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * alanhs jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * JohnL jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509638 Q * SiD3WiNDR jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * _mountie jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * cryo jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * sladen jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * logger jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * Bertl jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * Zoiah jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * Beave jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * Snow-Man jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * cemil jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * albeiro jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * sith jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * Seraph jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * Beirdo jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * Hunger jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * aba jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509641 Q * berni jupiter.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1116509651 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116509651 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1116509651 J * DuckMaster ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1116509651 J * JohnL ~JohnL@nsnoc.plus.com 1116509651 J * alanhs ~icechat5@82-68-97-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1116509651 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1116509651 J * janra janra@paradox.homeip.net 1116509651 J * maharaja maharaja@ipax.at 1116509651 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1116509651 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1116509651 J * _mountie ~mountie@24.42.99.232 1116509651 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1116509651 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1116509651 J * aba ~aba@sol.turmzimmer.net 1116509651 J * berni ~berni@svr01.mucip.net 1116509651 J * logger ~rs@vds.pas-mal.com 1116509651 J * Bertl ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at 1116509651 J * pusling ~pusling@195.215.29.124 1116509651 J * romke romke@procyon.romke.net 1116509651 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1116509651 J * mugwump ~samv@210-54-92-184.ipnets.xtra.co.nz 1116509651 J * stupidawy foo@you.wish.you.were.pimp.olicio.us 1116509651 J * micah micah@192.101.188.235 1116509651 J * SNy ~mfr@bmx-chemnitz.de 1116509651 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@lms.rz.uni-greifswald.de 1116509651 J * Beirdo ~gjhurlbu@beirdo.usercloak.oftc.net 1116509651 J * sith sith@aaronp.com 1116509651 J * Seraph kk@projects.verfaction.de 1116509651 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1116509651 J * Beave ~beave@vistech.org 1116509651 J * albeiro albeiro@albeiro.usercloak.oftc.net 1116509651 J * Zoiah Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net 1116509651 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1116509651 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de 1116510313 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1116512530 Q * JohnL Read error: Connection reset by peer 1116512575 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1116512579 P * jsambrook 1116514557 J * Loki_muh loki@satanix.de 1116514603 J * DuckKing ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1116515041 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116515055 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1116515061 Q * Loki_muh Quit: leaving 1116515076 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1116517777 M * DaCa eyck: bleeding edge, wouldn't that be 2.4.31pre2 ? :) 1116517821 M * Bertl or a git snapshot? ;) 1116517943 M * BWare noon @all 1116517984 M * BWare can somebody tell me how to change the limits for a 2.6 based vserver ? 1116518017 M * BWare i tried rlimits in /etc/vservers/NAME/rlimits/nofile for example 1116518051 M * BWare but ulimit in the vserver shows open files (-n) 1024 though I specified 10000 1116518155 M * BWare duh 1116518158 M * BWare never mind 1116518198 M * BWare the ulimit of the host was 1024 1116518518 J * mep__ mep@p5091F167.dip.t-dialin.net 1116518707 Q * DuckMaster Quit: Leaving 1116518954 Q * mep_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116520367 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1116520370 P * jsambrook 1116520902 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting 1116521158 M * Bertl k, finally off to bed ... 1116521163 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1116521777 Q * alanhs Quit: The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese 1116522728 Q * orionpanda Quit: 1116523528 Q * rs Quit: rs 1116525166 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection 1116525385 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1116525920 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection 1116526449 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1116526782 J * axxo axxo@axxo.gentoo.be 1116527542 Q * TeraX Quit: 1116529905 J * SEAwolfx ~mike@spoon.csail.mit.edu 1116531878 J * Doener_ ~doener@p54877416.dip.t-dialin.net 1116532008 Q * Doener` Read error: Operation timed out 1116533261 J * cereal ~cereal@217.20.124.153 1116534014 J * Shuri sjnesjd@64.235.209.226 1116534256 Q * maharaja Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116534890 J * maharaja maharaja@ipax.at 1116536010 J * Martin ~martin@host-138-38-231-111.nat.bath.ac.uk 1116536017 M * Martin evenin' all 1116536818 M * Martin Would anyone mind explaining what vnamespace does? 1116536829 M * daniel_hozac creates/enters namespaces. 1116536870 M * Martin Thanks but what is a namespace? How are these different from a security context? 1116536921 M * daniel_hozac the security context separates the processes. the namespaces separates the mounts. 1116536959 M * Martin OK, so there may be several namespaces within a security context but not the other way around. 1116536995 M * daniel_hozac well, no. there's one namespace per vserver, just as there's a security context per vserver. 1116537022 M * daniel_hozac that's the way i understand it, anyway. 1116537065 M * Martin OK, so a vserver specific wrapper inside a security context. Cool. 1116537370 M * Martin Are they strictly speaking needed? 1116537858 M * daniel_hozac the context and namespace? 1116537879 M * Martin just the namespace? I appreciate why the security context is needed 1116537930 M * daniel_hozac well, no. you can disable it if you want. 1116537952 M * Martin How? 'scuse me being thick. 1116537974 M * Martin Sorry, if the is an FM I should RT then please say so. 1116538051 M * daniel_hozac see the nonamespace file on the flower page. 1116538077 M * Martin OK, thanks. 1116538077 M * daniel_hozac (also describes briefly why it's useful) 1116538097 M * Martin Even better! I shall now go read the fine manual :-D 1116538203 Q * matti Remote host closed the connection 1116538437 Q * romke Quit: reboot 1116540475 M * Doener_ Martin: http://linux-vserver.org/Namespaces 1116540573 M * Martin Cheers - touching /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/nonamespace seems to mean I can start vservers with the default command, now down to one bug! 1116540715 M * Martin Hmmm... looks like the kind of thing I'm going to need eventually - back to working on the clone bug... 1116542277 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1116542382 M * daniel_hozac [OT] does anyone know of a way to find out what network interfaces belong to what driver? 1116542826 Q * kevinp Read error: Operation timed out 1116542984 M * Doener_ daniel_hozac: find out the interrupt (ifconfig or cat /proc/interrupts), then "lspci | grep -B4 " 1116543049 M * Doener_ that should give you the device, to search for the driver directly, go to /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ then follow the symlink to the devices for that drivers and "cat irq" 1116543065 M * Doener_ for example: cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/prism54/0000\:01\:08.0/irq 1116543065 M * Doener_ 18 1116543076 M * Doener_ $ cat /proc/interrupts | grep 18 1116543076 M * Doener_ 18: 17878090 IO-APIC-level eth1, libata 1116543093 M * Doener_ ok, i did it the other way round now, but you should get the idea ;) 1116543135 M * Doener_ Oops... "lspci -v | grep -B4 " it has to be... 1116543139 M * daniel_hozac heh, yeah. thanks. 1116543146 M * Doener_ you're welcome 1116543271 M * daniel_hozac is the IRQ guaranteed to be unique? 1116543290 M * daniel_hozac wouldn't the base address be more reliable? 1116543350 M * Doener_ didn't find the base address in sysfs... but probably i didn't search enough ;) 1116543403 M * daniel_hozac well, this is for 2.4 and i'm using pciutils's libpci to find stuff out ;) 1116543454 M * daniel_hozac and doesn't the resource file contain the addresses? 1116543506 M * Doener_ yes, it does... 1116543813 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net 1116545809 M * Martin Night all 1116546072 Q * Martin Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1 1116546609 M * Doener_ night folks 1116546614 N * Doener_ Doener_zZz