1116288045 M * Martin Doener`: Now back and will follow last set of instructions 1116288052 M * Doener` thanks 1116289070 M * Martin Doener`: With ./configure --enable-apis=v13,net I get the compile failing with 1116289072 M * Martin src/capchroot.o(.text+0x484): In function `main': 1116289072 M * Martin ensc_wrappers/wrappers-vserver.hc:26: undefined reference to `vc_new_s_context' 1116289198 M * Doener` hm, smells like a bug, it shouldn't compile tools that require some api if that api is not enabled... 1116289224 M * Doener` anyway, it would just have been a workaround for the failing api-switch 1116289251 M * Doener` just continue with the other thing, that should (hopefully) help us to eliminate the bug instead of working around it 1116289457 M * Martin OK, just making... 1116289529 M * Martin What file(s) do you want compiling? 1116289556 M * Doener` cpp -D HAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -Iensc_wrappers lib/syscall_setiattr.c setiattr_processed.c 1116289568 M * Doener` in the util-vserver root directory 1116289590 M * Doener` the prior "make" is just to get some files create that ./configure doesn't create yet 1116289598 M * Martin In file included from lib/syscall-wrap.h:35, 1116289598 M * Martin from lib/vserver-internal.h:33, 1116289598 M * Martin from lib/syscall_setiattr.c:29: 1116289598 M * Martin lib/syscall-alternative.h:1005:2: warning: #warning syscall arch sparc not implemented yet 1116289601 M * Doener` (... and i'm too lazy to lookup how to get them) 1116289617 M * Martin Any use? 1116289644 M * Doener` the output file? yes... the warning, maybe 1116289682 M * Martin 65K - how do you want it sent? 1116289696 M * Martin Doesn't IRC have a file transfer command 1116289717 M * Doener` i guess my router won't like dcc 1116289835 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1116290316 J * ntrs ruzin@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1116290353 Q * ntrs Quit: 1116290649 M * Doener` Martin: ok, compile with --disable-alternative-syscalls please. (without the api stuff we used earlier) 1116290692 M * Martin OK, will do 1116291298 M * Martin Just the file you wanted or the whole thing? 1116291430 M * Martin checking whether to use alternative _syscallX macros... configure: error: 'no' is not a valid value for '--disable-alternative-syscalls' 1116291449 M * Martin Tried --disable-alternative-syscalls=yes but still no joy 1116291654 J * eXplasm2 explasm@p549FEBC7.dip.t-dialin.net 1116291663 M * Doener` the whole thing... 1116291928 M * Doener` Martin: ah, bug in configure... 1116291996 M * Doener` sed -i "s/enable_val/enableval/" configure 1116292078 Q * eXplasm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116292102 M * albeiro util-vserver 0.30.205-r1 fail to build here 1116292111 M * albeiro ppc host, uclibc, gentoo 1116292131 M * albeiro but will dig it tommorow, should be sleeping already ; 1116292132 M * albeiro ] 1116292140 M * Doener` hm, somebody else reported that a few days ago, x86 though 1116292154 M * Doener` IIRC he said he would file a bug at gentoos bugzilla 1116292427 M * Martin Still faults, this time errno is 22, invalid argument 1116292442 M * Martin I'm going to have to crash pretty soon - anything more I can do tonight? 1116292545 M * Doener` hm, EINVAL is way better than ENOSYS 1116292572 M * Doener` btw, which one fails now? 1116292698 M * Martin I'll get you an strace in a mo. 1116292724 M * Doener` i meant, which executable is it? ;) 1116292856 M * Martin lockfile still doesn't run 1116292876 M * Martin However I think I may have fixed the perror bug 1116293089 M * Doener` hm, EINVAL from siginterrupt? 1116293289 M * Martin Yep 1116293296 M * Martin Have full strace if you want 1116293354 M * Doener` why not... can't hurt ;) 1116293560 M * Martin mailed - I'm going to have to call it a night in a mo. 1116293613 M * Doener` ok, good night then! 1116293856 Q * orionpanda Read error: Connection reset by peer 1116294121 M * Martin Have written up what I've done, starting vservers still fails, now with "wait(): No child processes", the same as for the glibc version. I'll try and get online tomorrow and see what can be done. 1116294124 M * Martin Night 1116294151 M * Doener` night Martin! 1116294490 Q * Martin Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1 1116300902 Q * mef Quit: Leaving 1116302012 Q * sladen Remote host closed the connection 1116303869 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1116308553 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1116309499 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1116311305 Q * meebey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116313235 J * meebey meebey@meebey.net 1116313822 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1116314362 N * ciphernaut ciphernaut_zz 1116314488 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1116314927 M * bro morning all ;> 1116315372 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1116316867 Q * Hollow Quit: /dev/zero 1116317085 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1116318072 N * infowolfe_ infowolfe 1116319170 J * orionpanda ~nospam@netblock-66-245-252-180.dslextreme.com 1116319188 Q * rs Quit: rs 1116319246 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1116319276 Q * rs Quit: 1116321009 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116321181 J * knoppix_ ~knoppix@dsl-213-023-135-174.arcor-ip.net 1116322506 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1116323642 M * Bertl_oO night folks! 1116323653 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1116324483 J * psy ~psy@195.169.61.234 1116324710 M * psy where to find any pointers/info about 2.0 1116324877 M * DaPhreak psy: you ma want to have a look at http://linux-vserver.org/ .. 1116324894 M * DaPhreak s/ma/may/ 1116325032 M * psy well i did 1116325036 M * psy and clicked the news link 1116325044 M * psy http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1116325047 M * psy and end up there 1116325085 M * DaPhreak yeah, thats Bertl_zZ's current space for 2.0-rc1 and all the other development versions 1116325142 M * psy ok 1116325154 M * psy i just want to know whats different and better about 2.0 1116325167 M * psy i mean, should i go for the latest 1.x version, or use the 2.0 rc 1116325168 M * psy in gentoo 1116325174 M * psy what are the advantages 1116325193 M * DaPhreak to use 2.0rc instead of the 1.2.10 for example ? 1116325199 M * psy yup 1116325208 M * psy or should i just install windows? ;) 1116325215 M * DaPhreak *uuks* 1116325248 M * psy well? 1116325292 Q * rs Quit: rs 1116325382 M * DaPhreak psy: the experimental stuff (1.9 and 2.0) has (to quote bertl's site) a "large number of new features" 1116325396 M * psy rofl 1116325417 M * psy i think i'll just try it 1116325422 M * DaPhreak and in generally works with 2.6 which the stable branch does not 1116325429 M * psy ah 1116325441 M * psy i used 1.9.something and 2.6 1116325445 M * psy and had problems indeed 1116325582 M * psy well im trying it now 1116325688 M * psy brb 1116325688 Q * psy Quit: leaving 1116326224 J * Psy0rz ~psy0rz@195.169.61.234 1116326417 J * JohnL ~JohnL@nsnoc.plus.com 1116326600 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116326801 Q * rs Quit: 1116327013 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1116327024 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1116329201 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116329359 Q * rs Quit: 1116329426 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1116332206 N * BobR_zZ BobR 1116333146 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1116334031 M * BobR was hat Dich wach gehalten (ausser Bertl 11:54 ;) 1116334044 M * BobR sorry, missplaced... 1116334082 P * erwan_taf Leaving 1116334444 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-112-86.dclient.hispeed.ch 1116335305 Q * cryo Read error: Operation timed out 1116335857 N * BobR BobR_afk 1116336076 J * DuckMaster ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1116336148 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1116336257 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1116336272 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-112-86.dclient.hispeed.ch 1116336442 Q * Psy0rz Read error: Operation timed out 1116336788 J * heini ~rik@vdeijnden.com 1116336831 Q * heini Quit: 1116337179 Q * janra Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116337382 J * janra janra@paradox.homeip.net 1116341840 M * sukria is there something to do to let a vserver start Xfree when the driver uses an external module (fglrx in my case) 1116341869 M * sukria the module is loaded (and works fine on the host) but when the vserver tries to open an X session, it fails to load the fglrx module 1116341889 M * sukria I was thinking that it may need a special CPA_ stuff... any ideas? 1116341895 M * sukria s/CPA/CAP/ 1116343046 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting 1116343723 Q * rs Quit: rs 1116344000 Q * cereal Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116344903 J * Loki|muh_ loki@satanix.de 1116344903 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1116345629 Q * flock Read error: Operation timed out 1116345689 J * mep_ mep@p5091FFF1.dip.t-dialin.net 1116345941 Q * sukria Quit: Going back to real life 1116346128 Q * mep Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116346208 Q * tchan Read error: Operation timed out 1116346634 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1116347425 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1116347444 M * Bertl evening folks! 1116347495 M * BobR_afk evening, Bertl! 1116347530 N * BobR_afk BobR_oO 1116347638 M * albeiro heya Bertl :] 1116347666 A * albeiro hopes that vserver utils will compile this time... 1116347678 Q * tchan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116347707 M * Bertl albeiro: if they didn't compile last time, did you file a bug report to enrico? 1116347757 M * albeiro well, it was almost 4am so i decided to do it once again and see what can be wrong, than bother him 1116347803 M * albeiro i am using uclibc as main (system wide) and the only libc 1116347893 M * Bertl well, if it supports the interfaces ... 1116347947 M * albeiro will see - in fact dietlibc is even more "crafted" (and buggy, but that's another story ;) 1116347986 M * Bertl well, maybe uclibc is a vital alternative .. how is the support for various archs? 1116348023 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net 1116348062 M * albeiro on gentoo it has "stable" support on arm, m68k, mips, ppc, sh, sparc, x86 1116348168 M * albeiro src/vshelper-sync.c +89 vshelper relies on the Linux select() behavior... 1116348171 M * albeiro error :] 1116348213 J * _mountie ~mountie@24.42.99.232 1116348213 Q * mountie Read error: Connection reset by peer 1116348319 M * Bertl albeiro: well, uclibc doesn't provide select? 1116348360 M * Bertl sounds more like enrico checking for __linux or so instead of __linux__ 1116348386 J * cereal ~cereal@217.20.124.153 1116348471 M * albeiro heh, if uclibc did not there were more program failing, right ? 1116348476 M * albeiro were/would be 1116348524 M * Bertl I guess so ... try with the cvs version or the 'public testground version' 1116348539 M * albeiro where will i find one ? 1116348545 M * Bertl http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=util-vserver 1116348641 M * Bertl http://rt.openfoundry.org/Foundry/Project/?Queue=332 1116348687 M * albeiro hm, there is .30-207 on savannah 1116348692 M * albeiro think it could be good one ? 1116348699 M * albeiro tried 205 so far 1116348712 M * Bertl well, I assumed you did try latest 'release' ;) 1116348740 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/ 1116348750 M * albeiro nah, used that one from gentoo, so not a newest like it showed up 1116348917 M * albeiro each version fails with different errors ;p 1116349260 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU 1116349496 M * matti Uh. 1116349499 M * matti Bertl: ;] 1116349620 M * Bertl uh matti! :] 1116349634 M * Bertl okay folks, off now .... back later ... 1116349641 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1116349763 M * albeiro matti: you think that carefully crafting util-vserver and tricking gentoo into using it is a good way ? ;p 1116349898 P * JohnL 1116349988 M * matti albeiro: Hm, depends of results. 1116350019 M * matti albeiro: Few months ago, I decied to rewrite util-vserver to pure C with gettext support. 1116350032 M * matti albeiro: But, few months ago I was jobless ;) 1116350038 M * matti albeiro: ;-P 1116350050 M * albeiro heh 1116350062 M * albeiro throw away gettext please 1116350067 M * albeiro nobedy needs it 1116350070 M * albeiro nobody 1116350072 M * albeiro nothing 1116350075 M * albeiro /dev/null ;p 1116350080 M * FaUl ack 1116350086 M * FaUl gettext stinks :-) 1116350090 M * albeiro TA RA RA TAM ! installing util-vserver into / ;p 1116350091 M * matti Go away ;-P 1116350105 M * matti s/of/on/ 1116350118 M * matti Damn, I need a rest. 1116350132 M * matti Coffee don't work as usual ;) 1116350144 M * albeiro does not work ;p 1116350171 M * albeiro hey, it's you who switched me into bugfixing mode ! ;p 1116350180 M * matti Me/ 1116350181 M * matti ? 1116350187 M * matti When? Where? How? :) 1116350193 M * albeiro you. 1116350206 M * matti ;-P 1116350216 M * albeiro yesterday. on irc. by force. ;p 1116350222 M * matti By force? :] 1116350231 M * matti Oh 1116350233 M * matti Aahaha. 1116350239 M * matti tp-> :P 1116350240 M * albeiro yeah, matti 1116350241 M * matti I remember. 1116350247 M * albeiro The force 1116350267 M * albeiro you remember ? i do not, but it does not matter much ;p 1116350276 M * matti And you still fix all of forgotten bugs in RSBAC? 1116350306 M * albeiro yeah, i am doing fifty syscalls per sesion 1116350321 M * matti Phuf ;] 1116350333 M * albeiro and there's one sesion per evening 1116350363 M * matti albeiro: So, why gettext is bad? :] 1116350373 M * albeiro so in less than a week first nad longest phase will be finished 1116350377 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1116350379 M * albeiro why ? 1116350380 M * matti albeiro: gettext in C++ sucks, but in C - can be handy. 1116350382 M * albeiro hm, you see... 1116350392 M * albeiro there is not gettext support in uclibc 1116350396 M * matti Oh. 1116350398 M * matti I see. 1116350412 M * matti Hm, on the other hand... You're right ;] 1116350414 M * matti glibc sucks ;] 1116350434 M * albeiro so most of the time you end up fixing broken packages which cannot even ifdef it properly 1116350444 M * albeiro man, glibc ? 1116350459 M * albeiro with current setup my machine is just flying 1116350474 M * albeiro that's pretty insane feeling 1116350475 M * matti flying where? ;] 1116350481 M * matti You should close all windows ;] 1116350482 M * matti :) 1116350496 M * albeiro nah, it's not alowed to fly away ;p 1116350501 M * matti Hehehe. 1116350501 M * matti ;] 1116350519 M * albeiro that's actualy me who should be (after few days of coding ;p) 1116350530 M * matti I want to see your pice of technology flying away ;] 1116350533 M * matti ;PPP 1116350548 M * albeiro f... eh... back off ;p 1116350560 M * matti Throught window ;-) 1116350562 M * matti O gosh ;] 1116350569 M * matti :P 1116350591 M * albeiro ...and it's nothing but void and darkness there... 1116350609 M * matti Yeee... 1116350621 M * matti Or "To bodly where no man has gone before..." ;] 1116350621 M * albeiro indeed, you like it ;p 1116350673 M * albeiro seen the best vserver@gentoo guide ever already ? 1116350683 M * albeiro dev.gentoo.org/~hollow 1116350702 M * albeiro so you can setup nice vserver and gimme account ;p 1116350717 M * matti I? 1116350744 M * albeiro on your nice home machine ;] 1116350760 M * matti albeiro: Did you know, that I poison romke's main with vserver stuff ;] 1116350773 M * matti albeiro: And now, he cannot live without it ;] 1116350788 M * albeiro i know, he is hanging around here, quite actively i have to admit 1116350805 M * matti s/main/maind/ 1116350818 M * matti :) 1116350852 M * albeiro mind ;p 1116350854 M * matti albeiro: BTW, my home machine uses air-gap firewall quite efficency ;-) 1116350858 M * matti albeiro: Uh. 1116350859 M * matti ;-P 1116350867 M * matti albeiro: I'm tired :< 1116350880 M * albeiro air-gap firewall ? 1116350883 M * albeiro wtf ? ;p 1116350892 M * matti air + gap ;] 1116350896 M * matti + firewall ;] 1116350924 M * albeiro lol 1116350933 M * matti 1116350965 M * matti albeiro: I just don't plug-in cable :P 1116350990 M * albeiro i won't comment on that 1116350995 M * matti albeiro: I'm really scared of those all hackers in the Internet. 1116351005 M * matti ;-P 1116351010 M * matti Hehehe. 1116351022 M * albeiro plug the damn cable could you please ;p 1116351041 M * matti Why you want account on my home machine? 1116351043 M * matti :) 1116351049 M * matti Want my CPU time! 1116351054 M * matti I know that! 1116351060 M * matti You bastard! 1116351060 M * matti :) 1116351087 M * albeiro your cpu time and your disk space and your network bandwith ;p 1116351092 M * matti ;-P 1116351106 M * matti 96% free ;] 1116351115 M * matti On disk. 1116351116 M * matti ;] 1116351118 M * albeiro the last sucks comparing to my, but can be as well ;] 1116351131 M * matti ~220 GB free. 1116351157 M * albeiro hm 1116351172 M * albeiro what do ya think about rsbac+pax+vserver patch ? 1116351179 M * matti ROTFL 1116351186 M * albeiro you are rotfl ;p 1116351195 M * matti vserver will work? 1116351205 M * albeiro sure 1116351205 M * matti This is quite a mix :) 1116351216 M * albeiro it does with full grsecurity 1116351222 M * matti albeiro: Hmm... 1116351232 M * matti albeiro: But, RSBAC is a bit different. 1116351241 M * albeiro well, there was even a wolk kernel with it all and bunch of other things 1116351255 M * matti ;-P 1116351257 M * albeiro another story is if anybody actualy tried it ;p 1116351269 M * albeiro mcp know something about wolk and 2.6 ;p 1116351277 M * matti WOLK is something, that goes far beyond any kind of imagination ;-) 1116351298 M * albeiro the best kernel i've been ever using (latest 2.4-wolk) 1116351306 M * matti Yeah. 1116351306 M * matti ;] 1116351308 M * matti mef: :)* 1116351310 M * matti Ups. 1116351313 M * matti s/mef/mcp/ 1116351314 M * matti ;] 1116351322 M * matti ;P 1116351330 M * albeiro i doubt he will like it (mef ;p) 1116351342 M * matti Yee... Just... Mistake :P 1116351347 M * matti *g* 1116351349 M * matti ;] 1116351416 M * albeiro should not you be resting now ? 1116351432 M * matti :< 1116351443 M * albeiro i love that vserver guide 1116351445 M * matti You want me to leave... 1116351446 M * matti OK... 1116351447 M * matti :< 1116351453 A * albeiro hugs matti ;p 1116351459 M * matti You don't love me anymore. 1116351465 M * matti OK, I can handle this. 1116351466 M * matti :< 1116351475 M * albeiro lol. i did ? ;p 1116351477 M * matti :) 1116351487 M * matti Love is blind :P 1116351495 M * matti OK, seriously. 1116351499 M * matti I need a rest. 1116351512 M * albeiro indeed ;p 1116351528 M * matti BTW, remember about tommorow, and about premiere. 1116351528 M * matti ;] 1116351576 M * albeiro sure. 17:30 leaving gliwice 1116351581 M * albeiro or 100 minutes later ;p 1116351590 M * albeiro will call ya 1116351616 M * matti I don't h've a cell. 1116351617 M * matti :) 1116351623 M * albeiro not anymore ? 1116351626 M * matti Yep. 1116351629 M * albeiro btw. logs from this channel are linked on main vserver site ;p 1116351641 M * matti Coooooool ;) 1116351650 M * matti Ekhm... 1116351651 M * matti Hello. 1116351658 M * matti I am a poor developer from Poland :P 1116351664 M * albeiro ;p 1116351665 M * matti It's nice to meet you stranger. 1116351666 M * matti ;] 1116351673 M * albeiro looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool 1116351677 M * matti If you'll read this... 1116351687 M * matti Please, remember of us - little, hard working developers. 1116351690 M * albeiro get some cellular please, is it possible / 1116351692 M * albeiro ? 1116351696 M * matti Nope :< 1116351732 M * matti albeiro: I've a phone. 1116351742 M * matti albeiro: But battery is totally dead. 1116351761 M * matti albeiro: And I don't have money for new one :P 1116351764 M * matti albeiro: So. 1116351767 M * matti albeiro: Then :P 1116351768 M * matti :) 1116351772 M * albeiro matti phoneless ;p 1116351778 M * matti ;-) 1116351808 M * matti Cheer up, I'll find you... Somehow ;) 1116351830 M * albeiro i know cracow a bit since few crazy visits ;] 1116351838 M * matti ;) 1116351848 M * matti I'll use my foot-accelerator ;] 1116351863 M * matti And I'll grab you for trainstation in no-time. 1116351864 M * matti :) 1116351879 M * albeiro ok. but turn it off after. i want to get back alive ;p 1116351904 M * albeiro you are moving O(1) ;p 1116351913 M * albeiro everywhere in same time - no time ;p 1116351923 M * matti ;] 1116351927 M * matti Like Riddick ;] 1116351928 M * matti :P 1116351940 M * matti But I cannot see at night ;] 1116351957 M * albeiro ok. so you get some sleep and i will find some "food" 1116351959 M * albeiro like kebab ;p 1116351971 M * albeiro hm, i cannot get kebab. 1116352002 M * matti Why? 1116352013 M * albeiro complicated story, will tell ya tomorow ;] 1116352059 M * matti OK. 1116352074 A * albeiro kicks off matti 1116352084 M * matti Ouh. 1116352088 M * matti That hurts. 1116352092 M * matti ;] 1116352241 M * Hollow lo 1116352279 M * albeiro installing vserver on gentoo acoring to your guide :] 1116352948 M * Hollow great :) 1116352960 M * Hollow 2.0-rc1 is in portage btw 1116353010 M * Hollow first ebuild with a quilt managed patch ;) 1116353024 M * albeiro duno, i am building kernel and utils myself 1116353029 M * Hollow ah, ok 1116353045 M * Hollow 207 is in portage too, and supports the new vhashify 1116353060 M * albeiro hm, will have to make "unification" later, things like portage tree or binaries/libs could be common 1116354013 Q * duckx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116354097 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1116354427 J * muadda ~muadda@gar31-1-82-234-50-167.fbx.proxad.net 1116354753 J * duckx ~Duck@mna75-1-81-57-39-234.fbx.proxad.net 1116355298 M * albeiro Bertl_oO: what do you think about optional visibility cntx id from top/ps ? 1116355393 P * mef Leaving 1116355397 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU 1116355404 P * mef Leaving 1116355466 M * daniel_hozac albeiro: how? by hacking ps and top? 1116355473 M * albeiro mhm 1116355496 M * daniel_hozac isn't that basically what vps and vtop is for, though? 1116355511 M * albeiro yyy... mayby it ;p 1116355514 M * albeiro is 1116355520 J * Martin ~mjb@host-138-38-231-210.nat.bath.ac.uk 1116355536 M * Martin Evenin' 1116355577 M * Martin Just dropping past to see if I could persuade anyone to help me with my ongoing quest to get vservers runing on sparc64 later on this evening. 1116355770 M * albeiro Evening Martin :) Bertl is currently offline, but fell free to hang around here, i am sure somebody will help in case of problems 1116355848 M * Martin Cool - I need to sort out a few things before I can work so I'll drop back in an hour or so. So far everyone here has been great and I think it's fairly close to working so I'm keen to persue it. 1116356291 M * Martin OK, back in a bit. 1116356295 Q * Martin Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1 1116357819 M * albeiro huh 1116357826 M * albeiro vserver networking is black magic 1116358045 M * Doener` evening folks! 1116358077 M * Doener` Hollow: around? 1116358609 M * muadda albeiro, why black magic? 1116358705 M * albeiro i have no idea how should i configure ip address in vserver and default route (so i could connect it with outside world) 1116358762 M * muadda albeiro, I have done it with my vserver 1116358764 M * daniel_hozac ngnet? 1116358784 M * albeiro no, normal 2.0-rc1 1116358789 M * muadda I used "vserver vserver04 build --hostname vserver04 --netdev eth0 --interface 10.0.0.104/24" 1116358801 M * albeiro mhm, so did i 1116358821 M * muadda Next I did iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j SNAT --to-source $PUBLIC_IP 1116358826 M * Doener` albeiro: is the vserver's ip address a public one? 1116358839 A * Doener` will let muadda continue... 1116358862 M * Doener` 2slow 2day ;) 1116358864 M * albeiro Doener`: sadly not, i will reroute it :] 1116358877 M * albeiro PNAT actualy ;p 1116358897 M * muadda I don't know what is PNAT 1116358975 M * Doener` me neither... 1116358982 M * muadda I guess NAT behind NAT just works ;) (?) 1116359020 M * muadda albeiro, what is the IP of your server? and the ip of your vserver? 1116359029 M * albeiro 127.0.0.1 ;p 1116359034 M * albeiro 0wn me ;p 1116359035 M * Doener` albeiro: with "public" in this case i mean "if the host would have this address only, would the host be able to connect to the outside"? 1116359067 J * Doener_ ~doener@p54877B09.dip.t-dialin.net 1116359072 M * albeiro PNAT is actualy something what everybody is calling NAT 1116359090 M * albeiro while it is port network address translation (statefull) 1116359109 M * Doener_ hm, xchat is _really_ smart: Doener` already in use. Retrying with Doener` 1116359113 M * albeiro and nat by definion is not statefull, it is just translate and forget :] 1116359127 M * muadda albeiro, you don't have any eth0? How do you connect your server to internet? 1116359139 M * muadda "-j SNAT" is statefull 1116359148 M * Doener_ muadda: guess he's been kidding you ;) 1116359163 M * Doener_ (regarding 127.0.0.1) 1116359189 M * albeiro mhm 1116359189 M * albeiro muadda: i know, just clearing some things ;] 1116359206 M * albeiro SNAT/DNAT 'targets' in netfilter are actualy port NAT 1116359215 M * Doener_ albeiro: there's no need to set any default route, it will use the one from the host 1116359222 M * albeiro nat in iproute is the reall nat 1116359236 M * albeiro Doener_: i see, it can connect to external dns now :] 1116359248 M * Doener_ hm, nat in iproute is no longer available with 2.6 IIRC 1116359262 M * albeiro hm, that would be a pity 1116359280 M * Doener_ Warning: Route NAT is no longer supported in Linux 2.6. (from "man ip") 1116359347 M * albeiro ok, i'am going back to kernel hacking till vserver is merging bunch of software :] 1116359386 M * albeiro new slogan for vserver marketting 1116359403 M * albeiro "Vserver - easier than you though !" 1116359404 M * albeiro ;p 1116359413 M * albeiro or 1116359473 M * albeiro "Start hosting services in no time thanks to Vserver !" 1116359518 Q * Doener` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1116360035 J * explasm__ explasm@p549FB710.dip.t-dialin.net 1116360375 Q * eXplasm2 Read error: Operation timed out 1116361133 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1116361721 M * Hollow Doener_: heya 1116361763 M * Doener_ ah, there you are :) 1116361820 M * Doener_ i got rpm 4.2.1 installed (and apt-rpm, for which no ebuild exists AFAIK), so i can build fc vservers 1116361858 M * Hollow on gentoo? 1116361859 M * Doener_ unfortunately the util-vserver .207 ebuild has a dependency on beecrypt, with doesn't like rpm 4.2.1 1116361861 M * Doener_ yep 1116361873 M * Hollow hm.. beecrypt is needed for vhashify 1116361948 M * Doener_ right... but actually i don't understand the dependencies there... from gentoo-portage.com i get that rpm depends on beecrypt and beecrypt conflicts with rpm... hu? 1116361962 M * Hollow hm, sec.. 1116362029 M * Doener_ (that also makes me wonder how i got rpm installed ;) 1116362044 M * Hollow hm.. beecrypt depends on !/proc/sys/kernel/vshelper should solve that for now (until you reboot ;) 1116368596 M * Doener_ i've never seen the "no child" stuff when this error occurs though... 1116368618 M * Martin Hold on - I think we're on to something here... 1116368713 M * Bertl hmm, did you already do the vshelper-delegate silencing stuff? 1116368725 M * Martin OK "/usr/local/sbin/vnamespace --new -- /usr/local/sbin/vserver ----nonamespace --debug XXXX start" seems to fail as before but seems to actually start things (get MTA starting et al) 1116368741 M * Martin that's just with the echo .... command 1116368764 M * Bertl yeah, the echo "#!/bin/true" ... 1116368795 M * Martin Eh? I meant echo "/usr/local/lib/util-vserver/vshelper" >/proc/sys/kernel/vshelper 1116368835 M * Martin vps and vtop don't report process belong to it but vserver claims it's running 1116368872 M * Bertl well, vserver is wrong ... 1116368924 M * Martin well /usr/local/sbin/vserver ----nonamespace --debug XXXX stop appears to stop it running - all the expecetd shutdown messages 1116368974 M * Martin vps also only reports what's in context 1 and only the parent process in context 0 althought I was putting that down to me screwing up with vprocunhide 1116369101 M * Martin Fnar - may have forgotten to patch the dietlibc I'm using. Back in a mo. 1116369480 N * ciphernaut_zz ciphernaut 1116369491 M * ciphernaut morning all 1116369500 M * Martin morning 1116369555 M * Bertl morning ciphernaut! 1116369567 M * ciphernaut hi Bertl! 1116369939 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1116370014 M * Bertl evening rs! 1116370022 M * rs evening 1116370030 M * Martin Stopping the vserver seems to fail at the ipdown stage and I can now enter it so /something/ is working. 1116370095 M * daniel_hozac why is your vserver doing any ipdown'ing? 1116370139 M * Martin I'm trying to shut it down to get back to a know state - to see if I can start the thing reliably. Adding ----nonamespace *seems* to make it work 1116370170 M * Bertl Martin: your 'guest' is not supposed to mess with the interfaces 1116370173 M * Martin As for why it tries to IP down? I have no idea, perhaps the use of debbootstrap is a bit wonky 1116370178 M * Bertl (not that it will succeed anyway) 1116370204 M * Martin Bertl: Yea, I figured that - I think it's just some of the scripts haven' 1116370205 M * Bertl so we are back to the question 'how did you install your guest?' ;) 1116370212 M * Martin t be removed 1116370238 M * Martin it was via debootstrap, it appeared to work but it might hav been silently failing on the last steps 1116370351 M * Bertl hmm, you should install the guests with vserver %name build ... 1116370386 M * Martin yes, I was using the debootstrap option on that 1116370422 M * Martin Please ignore all previous comments about vps being faulty PBCAK 1116370523 M * Bertl lol 1116370682 M * Martin turns out that vps is a lot like ps and (unsurprisingly) not psychic, so you have to use the same args as for ps - it doesn't just guess what you want to know. 1116370737 M * Bertl that's what eps is for *G* 1116370739 M * Doener_ hehe 1116370790 M * Bertl (for the lazy ones: try espdiff ;) 1116370808 M * Martin OK "vserver ----nonamespace frequency start" starts the server and modulo some slighly broken config it appears to work 1116370859 M * Bertl good, so resume: what did we have to fix except for dietlibc and the syscall? 1116370881 M * Martin espdiff - this is like the perl module a friend wrote that gave a boolean answer for "does this program terminate" ... 1116370909 M * Martin Bertl: Full process about to be documented via pastebin... 1116370922 M * Bertl no, that's omething for the wiki ;) 1116371175 M * Doener_ ah, kernel snapshots are back (once again ;) 1116371551 M * Martin Hmmm... the system looks a little broken - my guess is that debootstrap didn't work fully 1116371585 M * Bertl could you provide the complete 'build' command please` 1116371590 M * Bertl s/`/?/ 1116371608 M * Martin with you in a sec 1116371633 M * ciphernaut I build the tools from the svn tree 1116371657 M * ciphernaut shutting down a vserver fails 1116371678 M * ciphernaut vshelper is pointing in the right place I believe 1116371699 M * Doener_ "still running unexpectedly"? 1116371754 M * ciphernaut yes 1116371764 M * Martin description now on wiki 1116371789 M * ciphernaut cheers 1116371793 M * Bertl Martin: excellent! 1116371808 M * Doener_ ciphernaut: http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200505/0085.html 1116371840 M * Martin build command was "vserver xxxx.example.com build -m debootstrap -n xxxx --hostname xxxx --interface eth0:aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/mm -- -d sarge" 1116371870 M * Doener_ you should specify a --context 1116371885 M * Martin By the looks of it the second stage of the bootstrap hasn't run, which would explain the weirdness 1116371902 M * Martin Doener_: on what basis should I pick one? 1116371936 M * Doener_ 1