1115789306 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, devel 1.9.5, 2.0-pre4, ng9.4 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1115789306 T * Bertl - 1115789328 M * Doener` hey Pinky, when did you leave? 1115789330 M * Doener` ;) 1115789335 M * Bertl hmm, just saw that pinky was missing ... guess I have to make him a service ;) 1115789371 M * Bertl uptime 1115789376 M * Bertl 07:29:20 up 22:07, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 1115789386 M * Bertl (dorks rebooted the server ;) 1115790029 M * Doener` our dogs need a walk... back in a few minutes ;) 1115790033 N * Doener` Doener|gone 1115790810 N * Doener|gone Doener 1115790816 M * Doener back... 1115791113 M * Bertl wb Doener! ;) 1115791260 M * Doener hm... i've re-constructed the text in my mail to lkml so often that it ended up being a mix of two versions... "replaced a decrement operation in with an increment macro in try_to_unmap_one()" ;) 1115791315 M * Bertl lol 1115791391 M * Doener guess that's why folks often don't do changelog stuff... wrong code is ok, wrong changelog makes you look stupid ;) 1115791494 M * Bertl well, I prefer wrong changelogs over wrong code anytime ... 1115791684 M * Doener yeah, was a bad joke... 1115791709 M * Doener (I'm good at bad jokes ;) 1115791726 M * Bertl hehe me too ... 1115792455 M * eyck I'm better. 1115792485 M * Doener ah! now i know why those colorschemes don't work in vim, but in gvim... they use gui{,fg,bg} not cterm{,fg,bg} 1115792629 M * Bertl hehe 1115794097 M * Doener got to go... back in the evening... cya! 1115794102 N * Doener Doener|gone 1115794186 N * ciphernaut ciphernaut_zz 1115794937 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandriva.com 1115796127 M * DaPhreak Bertl: ? 1115796149 M * DaPhreak is there an vserver specific equivalent for "mm->locked_vm =" ? 1115796165 J * Pazzo ~Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1115796184 M * DaPhreak morning prae, Pazzo 1115796254 M * prae Hi Da' 1115796415 M * Pazzo morning DaPhreak, morning @ll! 1115796965 M * Bertl DaPhreak: no ... 1115797004 M * Bertl you have to decide if that is a clear or a sub ... if it is latter you have to do the math (i.e. substract the value, then reset it) 1115797160 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed .. back in the evening ... 1115797167 M * Bertl have a nice day everyone ;) 1115797183 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1115797229 M * DaPhreak night Bertl_zZ ;) 1115797912 J * BobR ~georg@212.16.62.52 1115798038 N * BobR BobR_afk 1115798061 N * BobR_afk BobR 1115798511 N * BobR BobR_afk 1115799681 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115800730 J * IceTi 125@mw635449.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de 1115800733 M * IceTi hi 1115801650 N * BobR_afk BobR 1115802203 Q * Loki|muh_ Ping timeout: 481 seconds 1115802377 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1115802409 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1115802475 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1115803031 M * IceTi hey can I start with cygwin, kde under windows? 1115803420 M * rs to use linux-vserver ? 1115803674 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1115803839 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1115804021 M * IceTi yes 1115804198 M * rs it's not possible with cygwin 1115804211 M * rs you have to run a linux kernel 1115804761 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115805691 J * pflanze ~chris@62.12.148.70 1115805700 M * pflanze Hello 1115808350 Q * IceTi Quit: get satisfied! • :: ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» www.gamersirc.net :: 1115809026 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115809739 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1115809835 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1115810370 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1115810390 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1115811534 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.77 1115812783 N * BobR BobR_afk 1115813356 P * erwan_taf Leaving 1115813381 M * wurd facile facile facile facilektop]# vi 1115813382 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# vi print 1115813382 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# ls 1115813382 M * wurd ^ Fichier HTML Fichier texte #Fichier texte8# fire.jpg print 1115813382 M * wurd #^# #Fichier texte# Fichier texte~ Fichier texte8 konsole.desktop Trash 1115813382 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# vi print 1115813382 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# ls 1115813388 M * wurd ktop]# vi 1115813388 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# vi print 1115813388 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# ls 1115813388 M * wurd ^ Fichier HTML Fichier texte #Fichier texte8# fire.jpg print 1115813388 M * wurd #^# #Fichier texte# Fichier texte~ Fichier texte8 konsole.desktop Trash 1115813390 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# vi print 1115813390 M * wurd [root@localhost Desktop]# ls 1115813626 M * rs wtf ? 1115813780 M * wurd uh.. 1115813790 M * wurd i have no clue how this happened 1115813796 M * wurd :) 1115816930 Q * ciphernaut_zz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1115817208 Q * Bertl_zZ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115817390 J * Bertl_zZ ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at 1115817482 Q * rs Quit: rs 1115818237 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1115818282 J * johaBBa ~johaBBa@h-67-103-177-40.mclnva23.covad.net 1115818338 M * wurd where can i get help for setting up my x server & client ? 1115818394 M * johaBBa i'm using Linux CentOS4 2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5 and util-vserver-0.30.207. the test script reports the install is OK and i have successfully installed a debian sarge vserver. 1115818405 M * johaBBa however when i start it, i get the following error: 1115818413 M * johaBBa save_ctxinfo: execv(): No such file or directory 1115818414 M * daniel_hozac wurd: #xorg perhaps. 1115818450 M * johaBBa i also tried appending 'true' to /etc/rc.d/rc on my CentOS 4 (redhat enterprise clone) host to no avail... 1115818464 M * johaBBa and ideas? 1115818470 M * johaBBa s/and/any 1115818495 M * daniel_hozac johaBBa: vserver --debug start might provide some clues. 1115818610 M * johaBBa daniel_hozac: i tried that too...i understand where it is checking/setting up the network..running pre-start scripts.. 1115818624 M * johaBBa daniel_hozac: then it runs a really, really long chbind command string 1115818636 M * daniel_hozac and that's where it dies? 1115818648 M * johaBBa in that i see: /opt/util-vserver-0.30.207/lib/util-vserver/save_ctxinfo 1115818654 A * johaBBa nods. 1115818658 M * johaBBa and that file exists. 1115818665 M * daniel_hozac what's after that? 1115818697 M * johaBBa ok to paste it? kinda long 1115818709 M * daniel_hozac well, use pastebin or something. 1115818721 M * johaBBa ok. one sec. 1115818764 M * johaBBa http://pastebin.com/282641 1115818787 Q * rs Quit: rs 1115818793 M * daniel_hozac does /usr/bin/env exist? 1115818805 M * johaBBa yes 1115818814 M * johaBBa symlinked to ../../bin/env 1115818823 M * johaBBa that exists as well 1115819008 M * johaBBa i've also tried re-installing this vserver with and without specifying the --context option. 1115819029 M * johaBBa not sure what that does, but i used --context 24 like an example in the wiki. 1115819032 M * daniel_hozac could you strace /opt/util-vserver-0.30.207/lib/util-vserver/save_ctxinfo /etc/vservers/sarge /usr/bin/env -i -- /opt/util-vserver-0.30.207/sbin/vcontext --migrate-self --endsetup --chroot --silent -- /etc/init.d/rc 3 1115819041 M * johaBBa ok 1115819069 M * daniel_hozac --context specifies the context id (xid) to use for the vserver. 1115819117 M * johaBBa hrm....strace says "save_ctxinfo: Can not operate in"..., 43save_ctxinfo: Can not operate in context 0" near the end... 1115819134 M * daniel_hozac ah, of course... 1115819137 M * johaBBa ? 1115819267 M * johaBBa i need to use a different context id when i create? 1115819331 M * daniel_hozac well, 24 should work. 1115819342 M * daniel_hozac when you create any other vserver you'll need to use something different. 1115819349 A * johaBBa nods. 1115819360 M * daniel_hozac can you execute /usr/bin/env? 1115819381 M * johaBBa yes. spits out all env. variables 1115819444 M * johaBBa should i turn off SELinux on the host? 1115819452 A * johaBBa is very confused here. 1115819456 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115819466 M * daniel_hozac hmm, i guess SELinux could cause it. 1115819599 M * johaBBa daniel_hozac: ok...i'll try to disable selinux and try again. 1115819603 M * johaBBa thanks for your help :) 1115819985 J * rs ~rs@staff.lycos.fr 1115820024 Q * johaBBa Quit: Leaving 1115820044 J * cryo ~say@212.86.243.154 1115821258 Q * Bertl_zZ Read error: Operation timed out 1115821272 J * Bertl_zZ ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at 1115821651 M * wurd vapt-get nom_du_vserver -- install nom_du_paquetage 1115821651 M * wurd cette commande sera extrêmement utile puisque par défaut le vserver n'a qu'un nombre très restreint de paquetages, ce qui rend 1115821651 M * wurd celui-ci presqu'inutilisable. selon les besoins il faudra par exemple installer : 1115821661 M * wurd uh sorry 1115821664 M * wurd (again)( 1115821676 J * Bertl_zZ_ ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at 1115821736 M * wurd hey bert 1115821749 M * wurd would you happen to know the name of a client for X ? 1115821796 Q * Bertl_zZ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115821943 M * daniel_hozac wurd: any program using X is a client... 1115821954 M * wurd do you have an example? 1115821970 M * daniel_hozac mozilla, firefox, xchat, gnome-terminal, gedit 1115821987 N * Bertl_zZ_ Bertl 1115821988 M * wurd thats not what i meant 1115822005 M * Bertl morning folks! 1115822024 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl. 1115822042 M * wurd well, at least... TheSeer told me i needed an x-client to be installed on "a remote computer" if i want to forward the display of my vserver to this "remote computer" 1115822066 M * TheSeer right, i did :) 1115822089 M * TheSeer but i said x-server on the client 1115822109 J * sukria ~sukria@213.223.184.205 1115822109 M * TheSeer at least i hope i did.. 1115822112 M * wurd *is confused* :) 1115822116 M * wurd x-server on the client..... 1115822123 M * TheSeer okay.. step by step 1115822123 M * sukria hi there 1115822129 M * daniel_hozac from any computer with X running: ssh -X 1115822132 M * TheSeer wurd: x is a client-server technology 1115822141 M * sukria what's the best way to check if a patched kernel supports correctly vserver? 1115822141 M * daniel_hozac ... run whatever programs using X you want... 1115822152 M * sukria does chcontext is the right thing to do? 1115822156 M * TheSeer wurd: you have a programm that connects to a running x-server to create output 1115822159 M * daniel_hozac sukria: testme.sh 1115822173 M * aba ah, sukria. Also here? :P 1115822190 M * sukria aba: yeah :) 1115822198 M * TheSeer wurd: since all this is network centric, you can run the app on one box and have the output on a different one 1115822199 M * sukria aba: I'm playing with vserver :) 1115822217 M * sukria but it seems that doing so under sparc is not that easy 1115822224 M * TheSeer wurd: thus the "client" (e.g. your workstation) needs to have an x-server for the app on the "server" to have an x-server to talk to 1115822227 A * aba did it with ppc 1115822242 M * sukria (debian #305449) 1115822243 M * TheSeer wurd: if you want to redirect the output to a non-local xserver 1115822254 M * aba sukria: actually, IIRC, you need to recompile the utils with the running kernel, as the kernel has no fixed syscall for it. 1115822267 M * sukria aba: hmmm interesting 1115822285 M * wurd so both parties (workstation and server) need to have an x-server installed on them? 1115822286 M * Bertl sukria: testme.sh 1115822309 M * daniel_hozac wurd: no, server doesn't need an X server installed. 1115822342 M * wurd x11 is an xserver? 1115822367 M * daniel_hozac X11 is a protocol. 1115822373 M * wurd ok. 1115822413 M * TheSeer wurd: okay, again 1115822428 M * Bertl sukria: http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg09705.html 1115822429 M * TheSeer wurd: for an x-based app to work you need an x-server *somewhere* 1115822444 M * wurd TheSeer to make things simpler, refer to the "server" (not the workstation) as "Vserver". 1115822446 M * TheSeer that x-server can be local (e.g. on the same box as the app you run) or remote ( e.g. your workstaiton) 1115822469 M * TheSeer this is not vserver related in any way 1115822478 M * wurd i know . but in my case the server is a vserver 1115822484 M * TheSeer so what? 1115822492 M * wurd okay nm keep goin 1115822493 M * TheSeer that doesn't make any difference 1115822494 M * TheSeer ;) 1115822501 M * TheSeer you run an app on whatever computer 1115822515 M * TheSeer that app requires an active x-server somewhere to output it's display to 1115822543 M * TheSeer you can tell the app (by setting DISPLAY=somehost:x.y ) what x-server to talk to 1115822566 M * TheSeer so like in your case that x-server would be running on your workstation 1115822711 M * wurd ok. 1115822723 M * wurd give an example of what "somehost:x.y" would be 1115822729 M * wurd plz 1115822730 M * daniel_hozac localhost:10.0 1115822741 M * wurd and what does "10.0" represent 1115822783 M * Bertl the port ... 1115822790 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later ... 1115822797 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1115822847 M * wurd the port...? 1115822849 M * wurd 10.0 ? 1115822889 M * daniel_hozac if you use ssh -X when ssh'ing into the vserver, you don't have to care about the details. 1115822901 M * daniel_hozac assuming X forwarding is enabled in the configuration. 1115823002 M * sukria aba: this testme.sh seems not to be provided by our debian packages, does it? 1115823030 M * sukria (neither util-vserver nor vserver-debiantools provide that script) 1115823033 M * wurd with ssh -X i will see a gui ?? 1115823051 M * daniel_hozac sukria: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1115823057 M * sukria daniel_hozac: thanks :) 1115823116 M * wurd and i'd really like to know how "10.0" can represent a port 1115823119 M * daniel_hozac wurd: with ssh -X, you can start programs requiring X and they will show up on your clients' screen. 1115823122 M * wurd does it mean "port 10" or .. ? 1115823177 M * aba sukria: I'm not the debian maintainer :P 1115823180 M * wurd i'd really like to try that... how do i "enable x forwarding in the configuration" ? 1115823190 M * daniel_hozac 10.0 is IIRC display 10, screen 0. 1115823197 M * wurd oh ok cool 1115824177 M * wurd daniel_hozac actually what i want to do is to use the gui of the OS that is installed on my vserver 1115824333 M * daniel_hozac you are. 1115824348 M * daniel_hozac you're just putting the windows on the X server running on your client. 1115824364 M * wurd ok, i can do that with ssh -X ? 1115824389 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1115824402 M * wurd i just run "ssh -X " on the client machine? 1115824450 M * daniel_hozac after making sure X forwarding is enabled in the sshd configuration. 1115824461 N * BobR_afk BobR 1115824485 M * wurd "sshd" of the server6 1115824486 M * wurd ? 1115824584 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1115824674 N * Doener|gone Doener 1115824682 M * Doener evening! 1115824705 M * wurd # Host * 1115824705 M * wurd # ForwardAgent no 1115824705 M * wurd # ForwardX11 no 1115824710 M * wurd is that it ? 1115824717 M * wurd ( /etc/ssh/ssh_config ) 1115824723 M * daniel_hozac no. 1115824727 M * daniel_hozac /etc/ssh/sshd_config 1115824763 M * wurd X11Forwarding yes 1115824765 M * wurd thats it ? 1115824790 M * daniel_hozac yup. 1115824913 M * wurd is this all i need to do for x forwarding to work?T 1115824914 J * Bertl_oO_ ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at 1115824923 M * wurd i can use my vserver's gui now ? 1115824924 N * Bertl_oO_ Bertl 1115824948 M * daniel_hozac you need ssh -X as well, or configure the client to always enable X forwarding for that host. 1115824955 M * Bertl back now ... 1115824955 M * daniel_hozac but other than that, that's it, 1115824980 M * Doener given a recent ssh client you may need -Y instead for some programs (for example gvim) 1115824981 M * Bertl hey daniel! you are really good on urls! thanks a lot! 1115824985 M * wurd so on the vserver i do "export DISPLAY=client'sadress:10.0" ? 1115825013 M * daniel_hozac Doener: ah, right, i forgot about that. 1115825017 M * Doener wurd: no, ssh should do that for you 1115825021 M * daniel_hozac and IIRC, it's basically all programs. 1115825069 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: well, i've seen it enough times to know it by now ;) 1115825077 M * Bertl wurd: usually you have xauth installed on the 'machine you logon' and ssh (if told to do so) does this for you ... otherwise it's rather complicated 1115825097 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ;) 1115825196 Q * Bertl_oO Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115825472 M * Bertl sukria: you are testing/installing on sparc or sparc64? 1115825491 M * Bertl evening Doener btw! 1115825508 M * Doener evening Bertl! 1115825517 M * wurd ok daniel_hozac but this only displays "the program itself" on the client's screen, right? 1115825528 M * daniel_hozac wurd: yes. 1115825540 M * wurd what i wanted (i dont express myself too well) is the desktop and all taht 1115825555 M * Doener wurd: "the desktop and all that" is just a program ;) 1115825570 M * Doener (or a collection of programs...) 1115825626 M * Bertl xonx or vnc is a good option to have a 'full' X screen ... 1115825641 M * Bertl (if that is what you are looking for) 1115825666 M * Bertl hmm, not xonx, how is it called? 1115825688 M * daniel_hozac xnest? 1115825693 M * Bertl yep, thanks a lot! 1115826083 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: could you please remind me what, besides constantly providing useful information and helping folks out here on the channel, you honorable deeds to linux-vserver have been so far ... I feel the urge to add you to our Hall-o-Fame (any objections anyone?) 1115826188 M * daniel_hozac well, the vdlimit in util-vserver is based on my patch for it, and the small patches for find and friends. 1115826358 M * Bertl excellent ... so if anybody has any objections, she/he may speak up now or remain silent forever. 1115826683 M * Doener got to go... back in about 4 hours... 1115826686 N * Doener Doener|gone 1115826689 M * Doener|gone (no objections ;) 1115826956 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay, you have been mentioned ;) 1115826962 M * daniel_hozac thanks :) 1115827035 M * Bertl btw, if anybody feels like his name is missing on that page .. please let us know ... 1115827082 M * Bertl (I had a good overview who has done what, but that got lost as the community grew) 1115827135 M * Bertl time to prepare for 2.0-rc1 no? 1115827236 M * Bertl any issues we need to fix first? anything which didn't get through to me? 1115831658 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting 1115831807 M * DaPhreak morning Bertl :) 1115831813 M * DaPhreak wb Doener|gone ;) 1115831851 M * Bertl hey DaPhreak! 1115831863 Q * eXplasm2 Quit: Verlassend 1115831870 J * eXplasm ~explasm@p549FB7A7.dip.t-dialin.net 1115831876 M * Bertl wb eXplasm! 1115831920 M * eXplasm :) re 1115832197 N * BobR BobR_oO 1115832229 Q * eXplasm Quit: Verlassend 1115832232 J * eXplasm ~explasm@p549FB7A7.dip.t-dialin.net 1115832475 Q * pflanze Quit: later 1115833885 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@host-62-69-64-93.bsve.net 1115834198 P * jsambrook 1115835155 Q * rs Quit: rs 1115835191 Q * Duckx Quit: Leaving 1115839466 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later! 1115839484 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1115840210 N * Doener|gone Doener 1115840286 M * Doener evening folks 1115840610 J * Doener` ~doener@p54877058.dip.t-dialin.net 1115841051 Q * Doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115841396 Q * locksy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1115843724 Q * wurd Quit: BitchX-1.0c20cvs -- just do it. 1115844811 J * Sander ~sander@83.118.179.10 1115845517 M * Sander hello 1115845924 J * kjo ~krischan@p5484C2EE.dip.t-dialin.net 1115845934 M * Sander hello ! 1115845954 M * kjo Hello 1115845970 M * Sander are you coming here often ? 1115845985 M * kjo Every time when I connect to irc :) 1115845998 M * kjo What doesn't mean that I have to say very much 1115846015 M * Sander :D. Do you know how is admin around here ? Or least the dictator ;) 1115846043 M * kjo Give bertl a try 1115846073 A * Sander calles for Bertl_oO 1115846126 M * daniel_hozac why would you need the dictator? 1115846155 M * Sander daniel_hozac, I don't know if you noticed it ... But gart is an email spam bot 1115846183 M * Sander He is here for only 1 reason, collecting email adresses 1115846196 M * daniel_hozac the IRC logs for this channel are public. 1115846263 M * Beave how do you know that about gart? just out of curiosity. 1115846270 M * kjo Sander: Can you prove that? Maybe feedback@oftc.net is interested 1115846281 M * Sander kjo, yes I can prove it 1115846302 M * Beave ???? 1115846321 M * Sander relax, english isn't my mother language ;) 1115846364 M * Beave how do you know that about gart? just out of curiosity. 1115846385 A * kjo is also curious :) 1115846386 M * Sander Beave, because he was in my homechannel 1115846424 M * Sander not anymore .. But he was there ;) 1115846447 M * Sander Beave, lately I'm getting more spam than usual. After I checked from who it was. I began the search. I found out that it was gart 1115846468 M * Sander because his IP matches the one i'm getting the spam from 1115846497 M * Sander kjo, I have already send an email to his ISP 1115846500 M * Sander cox.net 1115846547 M * Beave ahh 1115846631 M * Sander just letting you know 1115846662 M * kjo Sander: But how does he get your e-mail address? 1115846698 M * Sander kjo, because I've one publicly said it 1115846705 M * Sander *once 1115846708 M * kjo ok 1115846742 M * daniel_hozac anyone stating their mail address in here is bound to get spam anyway, since the logs are public. 1115846776 M * Sander yes. In the channel where I come, it isn't. 1115846791 M * kjo Let's give it a try: 1115846812 M * kjo My address is: gart_spam_me_please@jodies.de 1115846832 M * kjo 3 - 2 - 1 ... 1115846855 M * Sander and ? 1115846857 M * Beave welp, the logs are posted on the web.. so, its going to be hard to determine if the spam is from someone scavaging webpages or via gart. 1115846899 M * Sander Beave, you can see the email headers... From which IP it's coming from 1115846915 M * SNy that helps you much 1115846930 M * Beave so, he uses the same ip to irc and to spam? 1115846939 M * Sander yes 1115846941 M * SNy just use grey- and blacklisting and 98% of spam is gone, anyway 1115846952 M * Beave not terribly bright. Even for a spammer. 1115846961 M * Sander 98% yes.. But the last 2% not ;) 1115846970 M * Sander Beave, i've noticed it 1115846981 M * Beave Spamassassin, thats where its at ;) 1115846988 M * SNy these are caught by mozillas heuristic 1115846991 M * SNy ;p 1115846994 M * Sander ghehe 1115847032 M * SNy only thing that comes through nowadays is "failed delivery" of brain-dead mail servers 1115847036 M * kjo grep gart /var/log/exim/reject.log 1115847041 M * kjo Nothing yet :) 1115847084 M * kjo SNy: I still get stuff from nigeria. They use regular mail accounts 1115847090 M * Sander ghehe 1115847102 M * SNy hehe 1115847110 M * Sander may I place An email header from one of his emails ? 1115847146 M * Beave Spamassassin and clamav catch those... I havent seen a nigeria scam in a while. 1115847171 M * Beave bogus-virus-warnings.cf takes car of the brain-dead mail servers. 1115847176 M * Beave s/car/care 1115847364 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@konilope.dyndns.org 1115847617 M * Sander SNy and ? Getting something ? 1115848116 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1115848318 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1115848369 M * Sander people i'm going to bed ! 1115848422 J * mep mep@p5091D7C0.dip.t-dialin.net 1115848425 M * mep hey dudes 1115848432 P * Sander Leaving 1115848446 M * mep i have a problem i want to use grsecurity+vserver in my kernel 1115848458 M * mep it should be a new as possible 2.6 kernel 1115848469 M * mep simple apply both patches is a bad idea right? 1115849023 M * SiD3WiNDR there are merged patches afaik, check mailinglist archives 1115849094 M * DaCa mep: http://vserver.limehouse.org 1115849146 M * mep connection refused 1115849172 M * DaCa duh, I'll check, one moment 1115849237 M * mep SiD3WiNDR nothing found in the mailing lists 1115849318 M * DaCa mep: it should work now 1115849338 M * DaCa mep: the site is linked from the wiki (under tools and patches) 1115849347 M * mep my hero :D 1115849350 M * mep big big thx 1115849423 M * mep you should add it in the topic or on the website hehe 1115849509 Q * logger Remote host closed the connection 1115849525 J * logger ~rs@vds.pas-mal.com 1115851033 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1115851157 Q * alexx Remote host closed the connection 1115851444 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1115851490 M * Bertl evening folks! 1115851515 M * DaCa welcome Bertl ! 1115851525 M * Bertl thanks! 1115851893 J * ciphernaut_zz ~a@61.88.18.130 1115851907 N * ciphernaut_zz ciphernaut 1115851916 M * Bertl evening ciphernaut! 1115851954 M * matti Hello Bertl :) 1115851966 M * Bertl hey matti :] 1115851983 M * matti Especially for you ":]". 1115851984 M * matti :D 1115852018 M * ciphernaut Hi Bertl! all! 1115852034 M * matti Hi ciphernaut :) 1115852044 M * matti Uf. 1115852053 M * matti I've new monitor :) At last! 1115852086 M * Doener` evening Bertl1 1115852089 M * Doener` s/1/!/ 1115852107 M * Bertl Hey Doener`! 1115852116 M * matti :P 1115852125 M * matti Doener`: Hi! 1115852127 M * matti ;] 1115852143 M * Bertl matti: and how is it? (the monitor) 1115852155 M * matti Bertl: It's not brand new. 1115852186 M * matti Bertl: But a far better than my old almost 6 yo 14" Daewoo :) 1115852210 M * Bertl crt or tft? 1115852211 M * matti Bertl: Philips 17" 107 T4 (REV 00 - whatever it means). 1115852213 M * matti CRT. 1115852276 M * matti Some day I'll buy LCD - LG 1730B 17" :) 1115852313 M * matti But is a little bit too expensive for me (at last for now) :) 1115852370 M * Bertl yeah, for 'working' the lcd/tft are much better IMHO 1115852377 M * matti Yep. 1115852386 M * mugwump 1280x1024 19" LCDs are <$500 in Taiwan 1115852390 M * matti But good LCD are expensive. 1115852392 M * mugwump $10,000 NTD 1115852411 M * matti NTD? 1115852411 M * matti Plasma? 1115852421 M * mugwump NTD = New Taiwan Dollar 1115852425 M * matti Oh. 1115852427 M * matti LOL 1115852437 M * matti ;] 1115852464 M * albeiro http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=producthighlights&sku=320-4221&c=us&l=en&cs=19 1115852469 A * albeiro wants it 1115852474 M * matti I want buy LCD outside Poland, but I don't know anybody not in US. 1115852500 M * matti albeiro: You're crazy Apple user :P 1115852503 M * mugwump 10,000.00 TWD = 250 Euro 1115852534 M * mugwump Is Poland in the EU? 1115852549 M * albeiro unfortunately is 1115852556 M * matti Hm... 1115852572 M * matti 250 EUR = ~1050 PLN 1115852575 M * matti Not much. 1115852597 M * matti Good monitor in Poland - 1500 PLN. 1115852599 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176 1115852633 M * albeiro good monitor -> Apple Cinema Display 30' ;p 1115852638 M * matti ;-P 1115852642 M * albeiro but too big for me in fact. 1115852655 M * albeiro you would have to sit really far from it 1115852656 M * matti albeiro: LOL, pin it on the wall :) 1115852813 M * albeiro matti: printed out DJB's paper about AES cracking 1115852816 M * matti OMG :) 1115852842 M * albeiro going to read it in near time :] 1115852866 M * matti LG is also manufacturing washing machines :] 1115852870 M * matti O gooosh ;] 1115852888 M * albeiro sure, haven't you known ? ;p 1115852896 M * matti Nope :P 1115852928 M * albeiro girl who was printing it for me just said "you're crazy, still loving math ? ;p" 1115852950 M * matti Poor girl... 1115852953 M * mep vserver is a chroot right? 1115852971 M * mep i play with grsedurity at the moment ;) 1115852974 M * matti mep: "some kind". 1115852979 M * mep yes 1115852994 M * mep so the grsecurity restrictions affect vserver 1115853011 M * Bertl and vice versa ... 1115853015 M * matti Hm... Good question in fact. 1115853020 M * matti Hehehe :) 1115853057 M * mep a good answer would be nice too :P 1115853059 M * matti Bertl: They don't crash each other? 1115853069 M * DaCa mep: well, if you want to debootstrap into it, you better disable the double chroot and mknode in chroot restrictions 1115853101 M * mep ok thx 1115853125 M * matti :) 1115853561 J * Shuri sjnesjd@64.235.209.226 1115853605 M * Bertl welcome Shuri! 1115853782 M * Shuri hello Bertl 1115853895 M * Shuri hey Bertl 1115853904 M * Shuri i am testing 2.6 kernel + vserver 1115853912 M * Shuri i got an error with asterisk 1115853916 M * Shuri Cannot find your TTY (9 1115853938 M * Shuri with 2.4 the error is not there 1115854002 M * Shuri cp -r /dev/tty9 /vserver/1/dev 1115854004 M * Shuri fix it 1115854059 Q * kjo Quit: Verlassend 1115854139 M * Bertl aha, what does asterisk want to do with tty9? 1115854160 M * Bertl (I'm inclined to call this a configuration issue) 1115854198 M * Shuri ok 1115854202 M * Shuri anyway 1115854207 M * Shuri it work now 1115854245 M * Bertl excellent! 1115854559 M * mep patch-2.6.11.7-grsec2.1.5-vs2.0pre3-1.diff 1115854570 M * mep when i use this patch which util-vserver must i use? 1115854594 M * Doener` always use the latest ones ;) 1115854611 M * Doener` i.e. --> http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/util-vserver-0.30.207.tar.bz2 1115854627 M * mep ah thx 1115854781 M * mep so dudes when i got a debian chroot 1115854794 M * mep what is the best way to convert it to a vserver? 1115854812 M * mep make install 1115854821 M * Bertl vserver build -m skeleton ... 1115854832 M * Bertl then copy the chroot there ... 1115854853 M * mep and overwriting? 1115854869 M * Bertl well, you 'should' keep the cleaned up /dev 1115854902 M * mep but when i build in the chroot for example a lvm 1115854995 M * Bertl lvm being a logical volume m? 1115855026 M * mep yes 1115855030 M * mep and device mapper etc 1115855115 M * DaCa mep: mount them from the host, so you dont need the lvm device nodes within the chroot 1115855202 M * mep hmm it has security reasons 1115855218 M * mep its in a crypted environment 1115855220 M * Bertl mep: you can not do such things without the proper devices 1115855259 M * Bertl i.e. if you do not possess the 'key' to the kernel, you can neither create nor manipulate such things ... 1115855261 M * DaCa yes, security wise it would be a very bad idea to allow it _within_ the chroot :p 1115855272 M * Bertl (and the key is the /dev/* node) 1115855307 M * mep so when i create the lvm stuff in the host 1115855314 M * mep i can't axxes them in the chroot right? 1115855328 M * mep because they don't exist in the chrooted dev 1115855336 M * Bertl depends on 'what' you provide in the chroot ...