1112659246 M * kevinp so you said make menuconfig was a good start, is there something else I should do before I make it?
1112659265 M * Bertl no, actually 'make' should suffice
1112659276 M * kevinp So I get these errors on the install
1112659280 M * kevinp WARNING: No module mptbase found for kernel 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6, continuing anyway
1112659280 M * kevinp WARNING: No module mptscsih found for kernel 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6, continuing anyway
1112659280 M * kevinp WARNING: No module 3w-xxxx found for kernel 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6, continuing anyway
1112659299 M * kevinp Do I need to back and compile these in as well?
1112659358 M * kevinp s/back/go back/
1112659398 M * Bertl what does give you those errors?
1112659407 M * kevinp make install
1112659418 M * Bertl ah, okay, that's fine then ...
1112659429 M * kevinp ok
1112659431 M * Bertl they should be in the kernel now
1112659452 M * kevinp rebooting...
1112659524 M * Elchbulle good night vserverexperts 
1112659531 M * Bertl night Elchbulle!
1112659538 M * Elchbulle shutdown -h now :-)
1112659552 M * Bertl make sure that ACPI is enabled ;)
1112659561 M * Elchbulle yeah
1112659598 M * kevinp so, I saw it loading the 3ware card, etc, but it still paniced
1112659610 M * kevinp mount: error 6 mounting ext3
1112659621 M * Bertl now we got further, from 19 to 6 ;)
1112659630 M * kevinp whoohoo!  :)
1112659641 M * Bertl question is: a) is it really ext3?
1112659663 M * Bertl b) do you have any strange options in your /etc/fstab which are unknown to a vanilla kernel
1112659674 M * Bertl c) does it detect the partitions correctly?
1112659693 M * Bertl d) how is the root device specified in your boot? (look for commandline)
1112659700 M * kevinp hmm, /swap is ext2, everything else is ext3
1112659716 M * Bertl /swap?
1112659728 M * kevinp before I bring it back up, should I look for any other errors?
1112659733 M * kevinp sorry just swap
1112659742 M * Bertl swap should not be ext2
1112659750 M * Bertl swap is usually swapfs
1112659755 M * kevinp It's late, /boot si ext2
1112659776 M * Bertl okay, / is ext3 and how is / specified in fstab?
1112659798 M * Bertl c and d are things to check before rebooting
1112659798 M * kevinp It mounted /proc and then tried to mount sysfs
1112659848 M * kevinp I can't scroll up on the console, is that because it paniced?
1112659871 M * Bertl well, that's because it is no console anymore (yeah, because it paniced)
1112659888 M * kevinp so reboot to orig kernel?
1112659894 M * Bertl yep
1112659903 M * kevinp rebooting
1112660024 M * kevinp http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/218
1112660064 M * kevinp http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/219
1112660078 M * Bertl the fstab looks fine ...
1112660115 M * kevinp http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/220
1112660156 M * kevinp modified 220
1112660233 M * Bertl hmm hmm ... 
1112660260 M * Bertl do you remember was the LSI detected first? i.e. did it really get sda*
1112660270 M * kevinp hmm, not sure
1112660284 M * kevinp I noticed that these were the next lines that loaded on the working kernel
1112660296 M * kevinp kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
1112660296 M * kevinp EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
1112660307 M * kevinp where the new one died
1112660328 M * Bertl okay, your irc client can send dcc
1112660343 M * Bertl +?
1112660351 M * kevinp not sure?
1112660366 M * Bertl okay, try to dcc me your 'current' .config for the kernel
1112660377 M * kevinp oh, direct client to client
1112660388 Q * Pazzo Read error: Operation timed out
1112660423 M * Bertl (or upload it again, but it sounded like some pain to you ;)
1112660555 M * Bertl nope 192.168.0.150 (behind firewall, or router)
1112660562 M * kevinp right..
1112660580 M * kevinp I'm getting better at the paste :)
1112660615 M * Bertl Doener: still awake?
1112660624 M * Doener yep
1112660636 M * Bertl I have a patch for you to check ...
1112660642 M * Bertl (in a few minutes)
1112660652 M * kevinp http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/221
1112660922 M * Bertl CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
1112660922 M * Bertl CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY=y
1112660927 M * Bertl CONFIG_EXT3_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
1112660927 M * Bertl CONFIG_EXT3_FS_SECURITY=y
1112660931 M * Bertl CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
1112660935 M * Bertl disable those for now
1112660966 M * Bertl CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS_XATTR=y
1112660966 M * Bertl CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS_SECURITY=y
1112660971 M * Bertl CONFIG_TMPFS_XATTR=y
1112660971 M * Bertl CONFIG_TMPFS_SECURITY=y
1112660972 M * kevinp oh, that's right, I looked at them, but must not have changed them
1112660973 M * Bertl same for that
1112661146 M * kevinp what would  CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL be called?
1112661150 M * kevinp Quota Support
1112661151 M * kevinp ?
1112661158 M * Bertl POSIX Acess Control Lists
1112661203 M * kevinp I found the first two (ext2 and ext3) but not the third
1112661444 M * kevinp Can just manually edit the .config?
1112661453 M * kevinp s/Can/Can I/
1112661521 M * Bertl yes, but you have to rerun 'make oldconfig' afterwards
1112661622 M * kevinp I changed CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL to "is not set" in .config, ran 'make oldconfig' and it's back to =y
1112661638 M * Bertl you have to add the # in front
1112661649 M * Bertl but it's easier to just 'delete' the line
1112661657 M * Bertl make oldconfig will then propt you on that
1112661663 M * kevinp ok
1112661713 M * kevinp flew right by without asking - do I need to change some other file than .config?
1112661724 M * kevinp I see there is a .config.old
1112661745 M * Bertl nope, if it doesn't ask, then it got autoselected by some dependancy
1112661745 M * kevinp (and still =y)
1112661754 M * kevinp so let it go?
1112661759 M * kevinp it's just the one
1112661764 M * Bertl guess it's fine so far
1112661779 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure that one of two things happens here:
1112661803 M * Bertl either a) your controller is not detected properly (you have to watch the lines very closely)
1112661848 M * Bertl or b) your initrd messes up pretty badly, you can try without initrd (enabling devfs and booting with 'rw' root from your root disk)
1112661906 M * Bertl (of course a includes that the controller is now detected as first controller making the devices sda*)
1112661940 M * kevinp hmm, interesting
1112661956 M * kevinp rebooting now
1112662084 M * kevinp I think your right the 3ware is first, rebooting to check again
1112662253 M * kevinp yep that's it
1112662260 M * kevinp so change grub.conf or what?
1112662270 M * Bertl yeah, probably best way ...
1112662283 M * Bertl but you have to change the initrd too
1112662290 M * Bertl (it's a little messier)
1112662330 M * kevinp we are so getting into things I have never messed with...
1112662354 M * kevinp Is there a better way to do it with the kernel config?
1112662378 M * Bertl you could build the MPT controller as module
1112662397 M * Bertl hmm, no won#t help ;)
1112662422 M * Bertl no, guess the best chance is to copy the fstab somewhere
1112662434 M * Bertl change it (by swaping sdb/sda)
1112662442 M * Bertl and specify it on mkinitrd
1112662476 M * Bertl Doener: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-1.9.6/delta-vroot-feat01.diff
1112662498 M * Bertl (no need to get back on that today ... ;)
1112662516 M * kevinp does the output of my working kernels lsmod help? Is my MPT controller a module on the working kernel?
1112662530 M * kevinp http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/216
1112662585 M * kevinp Or would it be better to remove the scsi swap and just put it on the sata mirror?
1112662803 M * kevinp okay, I've made a /etc/fstab.vs and changed the kernel line in grub.conf
1112662823 M * kevinp now just add --fstab=/etc/fstab.vs to the initrd line?
1112662863 M * kevinp nope, you said mkinitrd
1112662866 M * kevinp hmm
1112662916 M * kevinp so mkinitrd creates the img that the initrd uses?
1112662932 M * Bertl yep
1112662987 M * kevinp that's created during the make install, so is there an option that needs to be passed to the make?
1112663036 M * Bertl user the mkinitrd, check the --help for options
1112663310 M * Doener hm, network is flakey today...
1112663592 M * Bertl yes, extremely ...
1112663767 M * kevinp there should be somewhere a listing of what parameters mkinitrd is run with on the make install to know what else I need to put inthere
1112663778 M * kevinp I tried mkinitrd --fstab=/etc/fstab.vs -v /boot/initrd-2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6.img 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6
1112663788 M * kevinp And got: Creating initramfs
1112663788 M * kevinp Looking for deps of module scsi_mod
1112663788 M * kevinp Looking for deps of module sd_mod
1112663788 M * kevinp Looking for deps of module unknown
1112663788 M * kevinp Looking for deps of module mptbase
1112663789 M * kevinp No module mptbase found for kernel 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6, aborting.
1112663811 M * Bertl use the --omit-scsi
1112663913 M * kevinp Is this positive output?
1112663915 M * kevinp Creating initramfs
1112663916 M * kevinp Looking for deps of module ide-disk
1112663916 M * kevinp unable to stat /dev/sda3: 2
1112663916 M * kevinp Looking for deps of module ext3
1112663916 M * kevinp Using modules:
1112663917 M * kevinp /sbin/nash -> /tmp/initrd.eY3217/bin/nash
1112663918 M * kevinp /sbin/insmod.static -> /tmp/initrd.eY3217/bin/insmod
1112663920 M * kevinp /sbin/udev.static -> /tmp/initrd.eY3217/sbin/udev
1112663922 M * kevinp /etc/udev/udev.conf -> /tmp/initrd.eY3217/etc/udev/udev.conf
1112663993 M * kevinp trying it now
1112664125 M * kevinp ok, booted much further this time
1112664223 M * kevinp Took a while on starting udev, then after a couple more starts, it gave an error trying to check the root filesystem
1112664232 M * kevinp superbloack could not be read
1112664270 M * Bertl well, I guess your mkinitrd is too smart ...
1112664272 M * kevinp but at least the kernel didn't panic and I can scroll! 
1112664290 M * kevinp I hate things that are too smart! :)
1112664302 M * Bertl yeah, me too ... ;)
1112664323 M * Bertl I would by now forget about this crap, compile in devfs and be done ...
1112664364 M * Bertl but probably sorting out the issues you have here will allow you a deeper understanding about initrd and udev (once you got it working ;)
1112664544 M * kevinp Okay, just finished reading the boot output
1112664599 M * kevinp Looks like MPT loaded first(sda), then onboard SCSI (sdb), but it is trying to load /dev/sdb3 instead of /dev/sda3
1112664623 M * kevinp so when you say forget about it, which part?
1112664636 M * Bertl MPT loaded first?
1112664658 M * kevinp yeah, the orig kernel was the opposite
1112664661 M * Bertl that would mean that the original setup was quite fine?
1112664676 M * Bertl no it wasn't ... at least according to your fstab
1112664682 M * kevinp hmmm
1112664711 M * Bertl /dev/sdb3 on / type ext3 (rw)
1112664717 M * Bertl (that's what you pasted)
1112664743 M * kevinp I'm sorry, I haven't had a lot of sleep
1112664755 M * Bertl so maybe try with the original fstab, but rebuild the initrd with --ommit-scsi
1112664761 M * kevinp MPT is the onboard scsi! :)
1112664776 M * kevinp 3ware loaded first, then MPT
1112664783 M * Bertl ah, okay ...
1112664786 M * kevinp let me try again
1112664804 M * Bertl make sure to change the grub root= too!!!
1112664804 M * kevinp Looks like 3ware loaded first(sda), then onboard SCSI (sdb), but it is trying to load /dev/sdb3 instead of /dev/sda3
1112664822 M * kevinp I thought I did, I'll double check
1112664838 M * Bertl root=/dev/sda3 (in this case)
1112664875 M * kevinp rebooting to normal kernel now and then I'll check it
1112664990 M * kevinp http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/222
1112665020 M * kevinp this is right isn't it?
1112665184 M * Bertl did you overwrite the initrd?
1112665194 M * kevinp I moved the old one first
1112665211 M * Bertl okay, well, it looks fine at first glance ...
1112665238 M * kevinp so are we back to the forget about it stage?
1112665249 M * Bertl that was the config you used, right?
1112665294 M * kevinp this one? http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/221 - yes
1112665314 M * Bertl no, the grub config
1112665320 M * kevinp oh, yeah
1112665329 M * kevinp after booting, I pasted it
1112665341 M * Bertl okay, so the initrd is still getting soemthing wrong, I guess
1112665377 M * ciphernaut I have established some rules using firewall builder / iptables
1112665390 M * kevinp This what I ran: mkinitrd --fstab=/etc/fstab.vs --omit-scsi-modules -v /boot/initrd-2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6.img 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6
1112665401 M * Bertl you could do 'zcat /boot//initrd-2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.6.img >/dev/rd/0" (or whatever your ramdisk is called 
1112665415 M * Bertl then mount it from there, and have a look at the script!
1112665419 M * ciphernaut oddly enough, filtering traffic between the vservers and the host will stop the connections dead
1112665420 M * Bertl ciphernaut: cool! ;)
1112665431 M * ciphernaut that is on the ethernet interface
1112665453 M * kevinp the old img?
1112665471 M * Bertl any image ...
1112665471 M * ciphernaut for some reason, the packets need to be allowed on rules for both nterfaces
1112665493 M * Bertl ciphernaut: what do you mean with 'both' interfaces?
1112665499 M * ciphernaut in any case, I wish to verify the rules from all sides
1112665507 M * ciphernaut bertl: lo and eth0
1112665524 M * Bertl well, depends on the traffic ...
1112665541 M * Bertl local traffic should not look at eth0
1112665586 M * ciphernaut this is just for mysql access on the host from the vservers, and 'lo' traffic on the vservers to themselves
1112665592 M * ciphernaut agreed
1112665643 M * ciphernaut i can test from the host side using scanrand and nmap
1112665647 M * Bertl guess I'm off for today ... feeling sleepy ...
1112665668 M * ciphernaut though from the vserver side i think the priveledges are reduced
1112665702 M * Bertl good luck with all your stuff ...
1112665702 M * ciphernaut is there a tool that can be used for tcp/udp scanning in the restricted environment?
1112665720 M * Bertl u can give CAP_NET_RAW then you can scan
1112665725 M * kevinp thanks for your help Bertl
1112665734 M * ciphernaut cheers Bertl
1112665741 M * ciphernaut sleep well
1112665745 M * Bertl ciphernaut: but that's not different from scanning on the host (so no point there)
1112665759 M * Bertl night everyone! 
1112665764 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1112666788 N * kevinp kevinp|gone
1112673685 Q * berni iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * aba iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
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1112673685 Q * Hollow iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
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1112673685 Q * kevinp|gone iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * TheSeer iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * atsab iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * tchan iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * Beirdo iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * cereal iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * Loki|muh_ iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673685 Q * Snow-Man iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * Vudumen iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
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1112673686 Q * click iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * ensc|w_ iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * DaCa iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * sith_ iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * ntrs iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * jd86 iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * bro iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * eyck iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * Seraph iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * Zoiah iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * virtuoso iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * ciphernaut iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * Doener iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * rs iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * logger iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673686 Q * pusling iridium.oftc.net uranium.oftc.net
1112673730 J * aba ~aba@sol.turmzimmer.net
1112673730 J * berni ~berni@svr01.mucip.net
1112673730 J * jd86 ~jim@ip68-9-97-23.ri.ri.cox.net
1112673730 J * wurd ~kvlt@modemcable143.235-201-24.mc.videotron.ca
1112673730 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no
1112673730 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk
1112673730 J * bro ~vanity@lanparty.lv
1112673730 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1112673730 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1112673730 J * Seraph kk@projects.verfaction.de
1112673730 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt
1112673730 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net
1112673730 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de
1112673730 J * Beirdo ~gjhurlbu@beirdo.usercloak.oftc.net
1112673730 J * cereal ~cereal@stargate-galaxy.net
1112673730 J * ndim hun@helena.bawue.de
1112673730 J * Zoiah Zoiah@matryoshka.zoiah.net
1112673730 J * Loki|muh_ loki@satanix.de
1112673730 J * Elchbulle ~elch@donut.toppoint.de
1112673730 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.68
1112673731 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1112673731 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176
1112673731 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.195
1112673731 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1112673731 J * alban ~acrequy@AToulouse-105-2-2-69.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1112673731 J * ciphernaut ~a@61.88.18.130
1112673731 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net
1112673731 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu
1112673731 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1112673731 J * complexho ~mark@funk.gotadsl.co.uk
1112673731 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1112673731 J * click click@dsl-static-122-208.aal.tiscali.no
1112673731 J * kevinp|gone ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net
1112673731 J * Doener doener@193.24.208.125
1112673731 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1112673731 J * ensc|w_ ~ensc@62.153.82.27
1112673731 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org
1112673731 J * sith_ sith@aaronp.com
1112673731 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de
1112673731 J * ntrs ~ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com
1112673731 J * stupidawy foo@you.wish.you.were.pimp.olicio.us
1112673731 J * logger ~rs@vds.pas-mal.com
1112673731 J * pusling ~pusling@195.215.29.124
1112673731 J * rs ~rs@194.98.28.10
1112675379 Q * berni Remote host closed the connection
1112675381 J * berni ~berni@svr01.mucip.net
1112681342 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com
1112681734 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1112683820 Q * ciphernaut Quit: 
1112684106 J * IceTi 125@mw635449.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
1112684118 M * IceTi moin
1112684940 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-133-136.adsl.proxad.net
1112685721 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection
1112687073 Q * BWare Remote host closed the connection
1112687296 M * IceTi hey somebody here?
1112687299 J * Pazzo ~thomas@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it
1112687306 M * IceTi hello?
1112687711 M * eyck helo
1112687742 M * eyck #vserver sleeps at this hour, try 12pm-4am
1112687743 M * IceTi Hey, how can I clone an existing serveR?
1112687760 M * IceTi hmm
1112687791 M * IceTi what time is it there?
1112687800 M * IceTi i have 9:58
1112687802 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.195
1112687853 M * eyck 9:57
1112687889 Q * BWare Read error: Connection reset by peer
1112688142 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.195
1112688263 J * complexmi ~mark@funk.gotadsl.co.uk
1112688364 Q * complexho Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1112688571 N * complexmi complexho
1112689282 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@host127.201-252-19.telecom.net.ar
1112691659 P * keyser_soze 
1112691902 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1112695983 J * prae ~prae@134.106-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com
1112700081 Q * locksy Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1112700096 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1112701913 N * kevinp|gone kevinp
1112701933 M * kevinp IceTi: what version of vserver and utils are you running?
1112701943 M * IceTi 204
1112702324 M * kevinp Do you have a script called vskel.pl?
1112702377 M * kevinp I use it on my vservers but they are older: http://linux-vserver.org/VSkel
1112702466 M * kevinp Does the output of 'vserver --help' give you any options?
1112702542 M * kevinp The only other thing I could recommend would be: http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver
1112702810 M * nox IceTi: shoot down guest and then with rsync -aHv 
1112702877 Q * BWare Read error: Connection reset by peer
1112703210 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.195
1112703686 M * IceTi hm
1112705106 Q * jsambrook Read error: Connection reset by peer
1112707753 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving
1112707868 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@lms.rz.uni-greifswald.de
1112708250 Q * IceTi Quit: get satisfied! • :: ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» www.gamersirc.net ::
1112708332 M * Snow-Man vprocunhide is being annoying.
1112708431 M * nox why?
1112708482 M * Snow-Man It's not doing what I want? :)
1112708493 M * Doener what do you want it to do?
1112708541 M * Snow-Man Hide all of /proc/sys except /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
1112708622 M * Snow-Man At the moment it seems to be just plain ignoring whatever I put in 'files' though.
1112708865 Q * wurd Quit: ASKd
1112708926 M * Snow-Man I'm so confused.
1112708984 M * nox hmm did you restart vprocunhide ?
1112708998 M * Snow-Man I think I might have figured it out.
1112708999 M * nox what did you add to what file ?
1112709007 M * Snow-Man The / at the end apparently makes a big difference. :)
1112709008 M * nox ok
1112709016 M * nox yeah (:
1112709046 M * Snow-Man -/proc/sys/
1112709046 M * Snow-Man /proc/sys/
1112709046 M * Snow-Man /proc/sys/kernel
1112709046 M * Snow-Man /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
1112709050 M * Snow-Man I think that's what I want.
1112709079 M * Snow-Man And it seems to work but it's kind of obnoxious because /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start doesn't first go through and reset all the entries to 'default'.
1112709087 M * Snow-Man Or recalculate what things are *supposted* to have.
1112709110 M * nox  /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
1112709113 M * nox  -/proc/sys/
1112709119 M * nox doesn´t work ?
1112709135 M * Snow-Man I wouldn't expect it to, no..
1112709153 M * Snow-Man Because the extra / at the end adds a -R to the setattr line.
1112709241 M * nox good to know but not annoying *g*
1112709263 M * Snow-Man Annoying is that you've got nfc what's going to happen on a reboot.
1112709390 M * Doener  When this file exists, it overrides the defaults in SYSDEFAULTDIR/vprocunhide-files.
1112709402 M * Doener (quoted from flower page)
1112709409 M * Snow-Man Sure, but so what?
1112709421 M * Snow-Man On a reboot everything is set back to all-visible.
1112709429 M * Snow-Man And then vprocunhide runs
1112709475 M * Doener and will only apply your settings, not the default settings
1112709477 M * Snow-Man If you change files and rerun vprocunhide and some things don't show up you don't know if that's because of the first 'files' you had set or if the modified 'files' is correct.
1112709534 M * Doener hm, does it honor the order of the entries in the config? then you could add "-/proc/" at the top for testing purposes...
1112709546 M * Snow-Man yeah, I was thinking about that.
1112709593 M * Snow-Man heh, and what do you know, look at all the things that showed up.
1112709640 M * Snow-Man Alright, I think that's better.
1112710073 J * wurd ~kvlt@modemcable143.235-201-24.mc.videotron.ca
1112710225 M * wurd i have a 2.4 kernel, am i ok with vserver Release 1.2.10   ?
1112710284 M * DaCa wurd: sure
1112710347 M * wurd Kernel Patches for Marcelo Tree (2.4)
1112710349 M * wurd     * linux-vserver-1.2.10.tar [.gz] [.bz2] 
1112710350 M * wurd this ?
1112710364 M * nox yes
1112710383 M * wurd ok
1112710476 M * wurd and what do i do with those .diff file s?
1112710560 M * nox well if you have such a kernel take ´em
1112710580 M * nox instead (:
1112710631 M * Doener wurd: actually, you'd take "patch-2.4.30-vs1.2.10.diff [.gz] [.bz2]" or "patch-2.4.29-vs1.2.10.diff [.gz] [.bz2]" (according to your kernel version...)
1112710676 M * Doener the one above combines those two
1112710698 M * Doener can't hurt to have both, but you probably don't need both ;)
1112710772 M * nox the diff patches are proofed to work against the matching vanilla kernel
1112710797 M * wurd ok so i chose the right file according to my kernel version
1112710799 M * wurd and then ?
1112710843 M * Doener patch the kernel source, configure your kernel, build it, boot it
1112710891 M * Elchbulle very easy if you build a kernel before
1112710926 M * wurd isnt there a website telling how &
1112710928 M * wurd ?
1112710939 M * Doener to build a kernel?
1112710953 M * wurd how to do what you said Doener 
1112710958 M * wurd patch the kernel source, configure your kernel, build it, boot it
1112711002 M * Doener that looks good: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
1112711024 M * wurd thank you
1112712162 N * Doener Doener|gone
1112712570 M * wurd do i apply the .diff file with patch -p1 ? 
1112712614 M * Elchbulle I think so
1112712627 M * wurd it doesnt seem to work 
1112712634 M * Elchbulle there is a good step by step guide in the wiki
1112712642 M * wurd which one ?
1112712764 M * Elchbulle http://vserver.strahlungsfrei.de/tiki-index.php?page=GetTheKernelAndInstall
1112713001 M * wurd do i absolutely need to download a vanilla kernel?
1112713009 M * nox wurd: yes
1112713014 M * wurd cant i just recompile the kernel im using now ?
1112713036 M * wurd ive tried recompiling a 2.6 kernel before but greatly failed
1112713040 M * nox is it vanilla ?
1112713084 M * wurd i dont know whats vanilla actually :)
1112713094 M * SiD3WiNDR like chocolate
1112713096 M * SiD3WiNDR but different
1112713105 M * nox plain kernel.org kernel without distribution patches
1112713107 M * SiD3WiNDR vanilla means it's from ftp.kernel.org without any other patches
1112713135 M * wurd well.. i guess not
1112713141 M * wurd i just installed linux from a cd
1112713149 M * nox wurd: uname -r ?
1112713162 M * wurd 2.4.20-8
1112713229 M * nox hmm so get 2.4.30 + patch-2.4.30-vs1.2.10.diff 
1112713250 M * wurd 2.4.30 at kernel.org ?
1112713259 M * nox yes 
1112713270 M * wurd damn.. im afraid i'll fail again
1112713293 M * wurd i got tons of errors at startup when i tried compiling kernel 2.6
1112713351 M * nox well maybe you should get a bit more familar to kernelbuilding 
1112713363 M * nox this is not vserver related
1112713404 M * wurd you think i should get familiar to kernelbuilding before doing anything at all concerning vserver ?
1112713479 M * nox yes you need to be able to compile your own vanilla before 
1112713499 M * nox then just patch vserver and have fun *g*
1112713564 M * wurd argh :(
1112714407 M * eyck 2.4.30 is out?
1112714676 M * eyck damn those developers,
1112714895 Q * nox Quit: Reconnecting
1112714911 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de
1112715124 Q * wurd Quit: brb
1112717436 M * DaCa patch-2.4.30-vs1.2.10.diff.gz is gzipped twice
1112718474 M * Elchbulle I build my kernel with patch, reboot and its running since then
1112718523 M * Elchbulle Im so happy. 
1112719385 Q * erwan_taf Read error: Connection reset by peer
1112719573 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.68
1112720736 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting
1112722729 M * kevinp So, I'm new to the 1.9 version, is it normal for the utils to install stuff to /usr/local/etc/vservers instead of /etc/vservers?
1112722817 M * daniel_hozac it'll install to whereever you tell it to install.
1112722830 M * kevinp but it looks like that is the new default?
1112722832 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk
1112722852 M * kevinp Is there anything else that depends on this location?
1112722872 M * daniel_hozac anything else?
1112722921 M * kevinp any other programs
1112722958 M * kevinp I guess that's a pretty dumb question
1112722971 M * kevinp I'll recompile it since I like it in /etc/vservers
1112723020 M * complexho •kevinp• first of all make sure you have dietlibc installed then try "./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-vrootdir=/vservers
1112723074 M * kevinp what's the --prefix=/usr do?
1112723084 M * daniel_hozac install into /usr rather than /usr/local.
1112723107 M * complexho that tells it where to install the binaries, ie /usr/local/sbin or /usr/sbin
1112723143 M * complexho I think it also gives the path for UTIL_VSERVER_DIR (something like that) which provides all of the support scritps for creating/managing vservers
1112723208 M * complexho you will find those scripts in /usr/lib/util-vserver - it's well worth having a long slow read through the stuff in there ;-)
1112723472 M * kevinp okay, those are all great tips@
1112723475 M * complexho IMHO the bash scripts in util-vserver are a beautiful thing to see
1112723483 M * complexho very well written and clear
1112723491 Q * Elchbulle Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1112723501 M * kevinp I'll definitely read them
1112723629 M * kevinp So what's the best way to cleanup everything that already installed into the default directories?
1112723643 M * complexho just rm -rf ;)
1112723658 A * complexho Waits for the inevitable
1112723686 M * kevinp right...
1112723698 M * kevinp looks like a locate vserver finds most of them...
1112723796 M * complexho if you run ./configure again it will tell you at the end which dirs it installs to...
1112723823 M * complexho remove those, then just make clean and start again
1112723862 M * kevinp ok, thanks
1112723887 M * complexho •kevinp• I'mm gonna have to shoot for a while but should be back in about an hour if you still need a hand
1112723966 M * kevinp ok, thanks again for your help!
1112723981 M * complexho np :)
1112724512 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-133-136.adsl.proxad.net
1112724596 M * kevinp complexho, one thing for next time -- it looks like the info at the end of configure is also put into FEATURES.txt in the /usr/lib/util-vserver folder
1112724609 M * complexho •kevinp• If it helps, I have the basic steps documented on my wiki http://www.serverguru.co.uk/thecore/doku.php?id=linux-vserver_partitioning
1112724620 M * kevinp (for removing files)
1112724643 M * complexho cool thanks for that I knew it was there somewhere :)
1112724647 M * kevinp So far I have been following http://linux-vserver.org/FedoraCore3_HowTo
1112724656 M * kevinp but it has not been as helpful...
1112724667 M * nox btw is there no way to get to 2 dozen wikis to a big project ?
1112724688 M * complexho yeah that is fine too - mine is very superficial and specific to what I do
1112724695 M * complexho not with you...
1112724736 M * complexho my wiki is very new and certainly not definitive in any regard wrt vserver
1112724738 M * kevinp it looks really good
1112724747 M * complexho thanks :)
1112724781 M * kevinp looks like the link to creating your first vserver is missing?
1112724795 M * kevinp that's the point I'm at now
1112724833 M * complexho yup that's where I'm up to :)
1112724843 M * complexho hang on I'll get you something to get started with
1112724939 M * complexho vserver funky build --force -m yum --hostname funky.domain.com --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.1.14/24 -- -d fc3
1112724948 M * complexho that's the last one I created
1112724970 M * complexho make sure your yum is working first :)
1112724981 M * nox well also on linux-vserver.org there are is a lot of different doc
1112725002 M * complexho I can only seem to get the yum install method (not apt) working properly
1112725012 M * kevinp what os are you using?
1112725013 M * nox bringing it all together would be very helpful i guess
1112725019 M * complexho everyone has their own way - that is the beauty of all this
1112725029 M * complexho FC3 but experimenting with centos as well
1112725036 M * kevinp Not to bash anyone, but it soes seem like a big mess
1112725041 M * kevinp (docs)
1112725046 M * complexho nah that's just the way it works :)
1112725051 M * kevinp I'm running centos 4
1112725059 M * complexho there's plenty of docs out there, you've just got to 'tune in'
1112725079 M * kevinp right.. I guess that's why google is so popular :)
1112725084 M * complexho learn where everything is. it's a deceptively large project I reckon
1112725110 M * DaCa http://vserver.limehouse.org/patch-2.4.30-grsec2.1.5-vs1.2.10-dm.diff.gz -- please test (also linked from wiki)
1112725113 M * complexho most of the best stuff is on the VServer wiki though, it's just we all have our own ways of doing things
1112725182 M * kevinp So to get this to work with centos (I want centos vservers), do I copy fc3 to centos?
1112725192 M * complexho you should check out the flowers page as well if you haven't found that yet
1112725204 M * complexho (google is your friend)
1112725222 M * kevinp That seriously hurts my eyes!
1112725262 M * kevinp I'm going to start by reading the docs in /usr/lib/util-vserver as you suggested
1112725264 M * complexho nah it's not that easy. If you are happy to run EL on a vanilla kernel then it should be fairly straightforward. If you want the RH-patched kernel then it's a lot more effort to patch (I think)
1112725280 M * kevinp I'm going with vanilla
1112725330 M * complexho then I see little benefit in running Centos (someone else might know better) - you might as well take the FC3 instead
1112725357 M * complexho more compatible, more packages, more community-focused (arguable but I still use it)
1112725381 M * complexho anyn I'll be back in about 45 mins got to bath the kids :)
1112725389 M * complexho reality bites
1112725398 M * kevinp I'm thinking about stability most
1112725403 M * kevinp ok, enjoy!
1112725487 M * complexho but surely it's the RH kernel that provides most of the stability - most userland stuff is pretty standard I think
1112725498 M * complexho if you go vanilla kernel you lose some of that
1112725513 M * complexho unless you hand-patch everything back in and use the right .config
1112725523 M * complexho (not going to happen)
1112725526 M * complexho *Laughs*
1112725556 M * complexho Like I said I might be wrong - don't take my word for it :)
1112726265 M * kevinp sorry, stepped away.
1112726290 M * kevinp Quite possible, but it also has other advantages as well besides the kernel
1112726321 M * daniel_hozac the life time, for instance. ;)
1112726322 M * kevinp for one thing the yum repositories only house stable packages
1112726327 M * kevinp that too
1112726335 J * Tbery ~tb@pha-84-242-127-4.nat.karneval.cz
1112726342 M * Tbery HI
1112726352 M * complexho true lifecycle can be important
1112726378 M * Tbery ho w can mount some /dev/hda1 /home in virtual?? 
1112726386 M * complexho that is one thing that bugs me about FCx - they have a preview out for FC4 already :groan:
1112726398 M * kevinp really? wow!
1112726404 M * Tbery I copied /dev/hda1 to vservers/name/dev/
1112726416 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: vnamespace -e <vserver> mount /dev/hda1 /vservers/<vserver>/home
1112726433 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: or set it in /etc/vservers/<vserver>/fstab
1112726448 M * complexho Be Right Back.
1112726459 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: but that's all assuming 0.30.??? tools...
1112726478 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: please keep the chat in the channel.
1112726484 M * Tbery iok
1112726495 M * Tbery 0.30.196
1112726503 M * Tbery special verion,,
1112726530 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: why is that special?
1112726559 M * Tbery Use old config
1112726576 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: sorry, i've never actually used the legacy configuration style...
1112726579 M * Tbery /etc/vservers/name
1112726594 M * Tbery aha..
1112726600 M * Tbery I always
1112727901 M * Tbery if finish problem with 2 nfs server on vmachines??
1112727913 M * Tbery with portmap??
1112728217 M * kevinp complexho - did you just add vprocunhide to /etc/rc.local?
1112728314 M * daniel_hozac kevinp: why don't you just use chkconfig for it?
1112728340 M * kevinp because that would make sense!  :)
1112728430 M * kevinp I actually didn't notice that there was a startup script already in place.  I added the script in /usr/lib instead
1112728444 M * kevinp changing it to proper way now...
1112728517 M * complexho •kevinp• Yes, I must confess to still using rc.local... Perhaps I'll get round to it some day :)
1112728634 M * kevinp I added the correct command to your wiki :)
1112728644 M * kevinp hope you don't mind
1112728661 M * complexho congrats dude you're the first contributor :)
1112728669 M * kevinp woohoo!
1112728711 M * complexho you notived I had the perfect space ready and waiting for that :)
1112728721 M * complexho s/notived/noticed/
1112728747 M * complexho add yourself to the guestbook and claim your glory...
1112728863 M * kevinp yeah, you did - perfect spot for it
1112729306 Q * kevinp Read error: Connection reset by peer
1112729974 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net
1112730031 M * kevinp I just got hit by a power surge.  Wish I had a UPS on my workstation!
1112730253 M * kevinp complexho, added myself to your guestbook
1112730279 M * complexho ouch where are you? Calcutta?
1112730285 M * complexho :oP
1112730295 M * kevinp ha! sometimes it feels like it!
1112730335 M * kevinp Everytime I ask for something that costs money I hear "Man, your killing me!"
1112730387 M * kevinp --delete from log please :)
1112730647 N * kevinp kevinp|gone
1112730815 M * Tbery daniel_hozac, How to set up ip??
1112730818 M * Tbery in 204
1112730823 M * Tbery I try install
1112730830 M * Tbery new packages..
1112731038 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: see the --interface option to vserver - build, and the flower page.
1112731145 M * Tbery what is depend on?? I make new vserver with vservers 204
1112731161 M * Tbery and it have same /vserver/name.conf
1112731167 M * Tbery same for as before..
1112731288 M * Tbery I dont understant..it..
1112731443 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: how are you building it?
1112731487 M * Tbery witj newvserver 
1112731490 M * Tbery with..
1112731515 M * Tbery now Im make other with vserver name build
1112731706 M * Tbery daniel_hozac, why in new server doesnt run ip??
1112731736 M * Tbery daniel_hozac, all look good../vservers/name/interfaces/
1112731740 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: you need the --interface option. read the alpha util-vserver page on the wiki.
1112731769 M * Tbery if Im write ifconfig
1112731832 M * daniel_hozac Tbery: ifconfig is old. use ip addr instead.
1112731872 M * Tbery there is..ok..
1112731916 M * Tbery inet 147.32.129.104/20 brd 147.32.143.255 scope global eth0
1112731917 M * Tbery     inet 192.168.0.10/24 brd 192.168.255.255 scope global eth0:2
1112731917 M * Tbery     inet 192.168.0.100/20 brd 147.32.143.255 scope global eth0:klobouk
1112731917 M * Tbery     inet 147.32.129.100/20 brd 147.32.143.255 scope global secondary eth0:1
1112731917 M * Tbery     inet 192.168.0.200/20 brd 147.32.143.255 scope global secondary eth0:min
1112731917 M * Tbery     inet 192.168.0.150/20 brd 147.32.143.255 scope global secondary eth0:quido
1112731919 M * Tbery     inet 192.168.0.250/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global secondary eth0:2
1112731943 M * Tbery vservers makes with vserver built is last one..
1112734684 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1112734688 M * Bertl morning folks!
1112734719 M * nox re Bertl 
1112734742 M * Bertl hey nox! sup?
1112734830 M * nox sup ?? dict didn´t help *g*
1112734963 M * eyck soup maybe?
1112735076 P * Pazzo 
1112735146 M * Bertl nox: sorry, short for what's up ...
1112735220 M * nox oh ic Bertl  just want to welcome you to your chan *g*
1112735494 M * Bertl hmm, isn't it your chan too?
1112735656 M * nox well i feel at home here but it wouldn´t be complete without ya *hug*
1112735694 M * Bertl ahh, great group hug! *hug*
1112735700 M * eyck hmm
1112735758 M * Bertl hey eyck! you're welcome too, you know?
1112735792 M * eyck I think I'll better go to sleep, 
1112735796 M * eyck have fun though
1112735804 M * Bertl night then!
1112735838 M * Bertl nox: so do you plan to visit austria?
1112735883 M * nox well linuxtage sounds nice *g*
1112735910 M * Bertl wochen, wochen!
1112735949 M * nox ups yeah *g* 
1112735961 M * Bertl well, you have still some time to plan ...
1112735989 M * Bertl vienna will be 24th-27th of May 
1112736030 M * nox would prefer you to come to linuxtag and vserver to make a booth
1112736074 M * nox i were ask to support in linz and this is iirc next week
1112736109 M * Bertl ad Linuxtag: well, if you can arrange it, I'll cover the travel expenses ...
1112736109 M * nox asked
1112736121 M * Bertl (as I did last year ;)
1112736160 M * Bertl yes Linz is 13th-16th of April
1112736174 M * nox so not much time
1112736300 M * nox you would lecture there again if there would be the possibility ?
1112736345 J * ntrs ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com
1112736351 M * micah I have a user who is inside a vserver as an individual user (not root), they are trying to do a "sudo ls", but they get a strange result
1112736363 M * micah simply the word "Aborted"
1112736375 M * micah is this due to a capability not enabled for that vserver?
1112736445 M * Bertl nox: yes, I would give a talk there or do a wrokshop ...
1112736460 M * Bertl micah: I don't think so ... let's investigate this if possible
1112736466 M * Bertl welcome ntrs!
1112736566 M * micah Bertl: ok, what would be the best way to proceed?
1112736663 M * Bertl guess the first step might be an strace ...
1112736671 M * Bertl (but that's a little trickier I guess)
1112736678 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1112736688 M * Bertl you need to attach _after_ the sudo was started
1112736694 M * Bertl (and from the root account)
1112736727 Q * Tbery Quit: Ukončuji
1112736821 M * micah i can be root on the vserver
1112736832 M * micah and it asks for a password
1112736837 M * micah so it stops, so I can attach then
1112736873 M * Bertl precisely that's the idea
1112737345 M * micah hmm, it isn't asking me for a password
1112737348 M * micah it just aborts :P
1112737369 M * micah fortunately, it seems to do it from root
1112737375 M * micah so I can just strace sudo ls as root
1112737392 M * Bertl okay ...
1112737465 M * micah Bertl: https://munin.riseup.net/sudo.strace
1112737517 M * Bertl https? hmm ...
1112737541 M * micah well you can go to http it will redirect to https :)
1112737555 M * Bertl no problem, just wondered ;)
1112737571 M * micah its a development server, so things are weird on it :)
1112737591 M * Bertl which kernel is that?
1112737602 M * Bertl kernel and patches I mean
1112737632 M * micah this one... hmm
1112737693 M * micah i think it is 1.9.2 agains 2.6.8
1112737708 M * micah but I am not sure... is there a better way to check?
1112737713 M * Bertl uname -a
1112737717 M * micah well, yes
1112737719 M * micah I know it is 2.6.8
1112737723 M * micah but I dont know the vserver patch
1112737734 M * Bertl okay, check /proc/virtual/info
1112737748 M * micah VCIVersion:     0001:0020
1112737748 M * micah VCISyscall:     273
1112737772 M * micah is that 1.2 version of vserver>
1112737773 M * micah ?
1112737783 M * Bertl no, definitely no ...
1112737808 M * micah (this was the machine I was testing trying to get the 1.9.5 patches to work with debian 2.6.8)
1112737897 M * Bertl sec, checking my sources ;)
1112737932 M * Bertl patch-2.6.8.1-vs1.9.2.diff
1112737938 M * micah ah! i was right in my guess
1112737939 M * Bertl (oder 2.6.8/1.9.2
1112737947 M * Bertl s/oder/or/
1112737986 M * Bertl well, it looks funny ... the sudo does some
1112737992 M * Bertl communication via netlink ...
1112738007 M * Bertl and then decides to send an abort signal to the task group ...
1112738020 M * micah yes, I thought that was strange
1112738075 J * albeiro albeiro@linux.gentoo.pl
1112738082 M * Bertl maybe that's a way to tell that some authentication could not be met ... but I doubt it ...
1112738083 M * albeiro hello again !
1112738085 M * Bertl evening albeiro!
1112738110 M * albeiro few MB/s from kernel org means that network problems has ended i think ;p
1112738213 M * Bertl sounds good .. 
1112738235 M * albeiro by accident i got connected to main switch in the building ;]
1112738240 M * albeiro "accident"
1112738268 M * Bertl tsts stuff happens ;)
1112738331 M * micah Bertl: http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200410/0061.html is similar
1112738495 M * micah but there is no IPv6 in this setup
1112738516 M * Bertl hmm, but it looks like a close enough match ...
1112738526 M * micah but your solutions may be the way
1112738533 M * micah 3B - get a different glibc
1112738533 M * micah  - disable ipv6 at compile time
1112738534 M * micah  - use recent patch (1.9.3-rc2 for example) 
1112738553 M * Bertl yeah, I'd go for the update ...
1112738577 M * Bertl if you try with 1.9.5.6 (for example) and the issue remains ... we'll dig into it ...
1112738586 M * micah now I am back to trying to get 2.6.8 working with 1.9.5 :)
1112738598 M * Bertl why that?
1112738602 M * micah I can put 2.6.11 on this machine to see if that problem goes away
1112738620 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection
1112738646 M * micah because I was unable to get the debian 2.6.8 to work with the 1.9.4/1.9.5 vserver patches, and I made you a big .diff, remember?
1112738663 M * Bertl yeah, I remember ... ;)
1112738682 M * Bertl it's still on my todo list, but I guess testing with 2.6.11 isn't such a big deal ...
1112738694 M * micah no, I will test that first to make this problem go away :)
1112738720 M * Bertl k, you plan to be around longer today?
1112738749 M * micah yes, I am going out for about 30 minutes, but then I will return and do that test
1112738754 M * Bertl (if so, then we can try to adapt the 1.9.5+ to 2.6.8)
1112738770 M * micah I will be here for proably another 5-6 hours :)
1112738791 M * micah great, I would love to do that!
1112738842 M * Bertl okay, then let's do that ...
1112738897 M * Bertl (when you come back)
1112738950 M * micah ok, see you soon
1112740785 M * complexho Hi Bertl - the 2.6.8 adaptation you were just talking about might be very useful for me too... It turns out that the GFS patches I was looking at rely on a kernel function (GET_LOCK_CLNT if I remember correctly) that was deprecated in 2.6.10 hence no-go on the patch... I could have a go with a 2.6.8 kernel though for testing purposes :)
1112740927 M * complexho The function was "LOCK_USE_CLNT" and is referenced here http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.11
1112740962 M * Bertl hey complexho!
1112740967 M * complexho hi!
1112741058 M * Bertl hmm, you might look into that, because I guess 2.6.8 is fun for testing, but we are aiming at a 2.6.8-x kernel for debian, which is more like a partial 2.6.11 in disguise ;)
1112741098 M * complexho ah right not so useful then ;)
1112741103 M * Bertl (so I would not expect the LOCK_USE_CLNT to be present there)
1112741116 M * complexho yeah :(
1112741134 M * Bertl but what's the big deal with that? I guess the GFS folks will update their patches too, no?
1112741153 M * complexho never mind I'll just have to roll back to whatever vserver patch was around for 2.6.10 or earlier then I guess
1112741154 M * Bertl anyway you could just test with 2.6.8-vs1.9.2 or so for now ...
1112741198 M * complexho Well the changelog suggests anything pre-2.6.11 - what patch do you have for 2.6.10?
1112741202 M * Bertl yeah, or 2.6.10 (1.9.4 was there .. you might add one or the other fix from 1.9.5 and FOR-1.9.6)
1112741255 M * Bertl you you didn#t have vserver and GFS playing together yet, right?
1112741264 M * complexho right ok that sounds like a plan then. Unfortunately I don't hold much hope for an update at this stage as a) I'm not a filesystem hacker and b) there hasn't been an update in some time and the project seems extremely quiet
1112741292 M * complexho nope I am working it slightly different for now... But have kept a unit on SAN for GFS hacking :)
1112741330 M * Bertl i.c. okay, let me know when you need anything ...
1112741369 M * micah re
1112741380 M * complexho I have 4 x partitions on SAN (/dev/sda1-4), mounted at /clusterfs on head servers. util-vserver is configured --sysconfdir=/clusterfs/etc --with-vrootdir=/clusterfs/vservers
1112741382 M * Bertl wb micah!
1112741408 M * micah thanks Bertl :)
1112741441 M * complexho All the partitions are straight EXT3, no shared mounts but considering re-exporting /clusterfs on each machine over NFS to management servers
1112741504 M * micah ok, I am going to put together a 2.6.11 kernel to see if I can make the sudo problem go away
1112741514 M * micah Bertl: do you need access to a debian machine to work on the patch?
1112741531 M * Bertl no, I don't think so ...
1112741558 M * Bertl but we will do that in several steps ...
1112741572 M * Bertl I will first (back) port the essentials ...
1112741574 M * micah ok, I will help in whatever way I can
1112741595 M * Bertl then it's up to you to do some testing .. after that we start the more complex stuff and fix up what got broken ...
1112741604 M * micah ola: are you here?
1112741616 M * micah I am wondering if ola has done any work on the debian 2.6.8 kernel patch or not
1112741637 M * micah I will look at what is in debian now to check
1112741642 M * Bertl your part in that is basically, get an 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.12 kernel up and running one one machine
1112741666 M * Bertl and a way to easily check the 'new' 2.6.8-15-vs1.9.5.12 kernel ...
1112741691 M * Bertl so that you can compare them and check for any differences ...
1112741700 M * micah ok, I will work on that
1112741744 M * Bertl 2.6.8-15 is still the latest?
1112741758 M * Bertl (and that's also the one you did provide the patch for, right?)
1112741762 M * micah the debian package that provides the kernel-patch contains 2.6.11-rc3-vs1.9.4, 2.6.10-5-vs1.9.4 and then 2.4 patches
1112741772 M * micah let me verify, one moment
1112741847 J * Elchbulle ~elch@donut.toppoint.de
1112741850 M * Elchbulle re
1112741850 M * micah yes, 2.6.8-15 is the latest and yes, that is the version I provided the patch for
1112741875 M * Bertl md5sum vanilla-vs-debian-2.6.8
1112741875 M * Bertl 823fee2ebc230fdddff90824662fae62  vanilla-vs-debian-2.6.8
1112741880 M * Bertl (this one?)
1112742069 M * micah 823fee2ebc230fdddff90824662fae62 vanilla-vs-debian-2.6.8
1112742070 M * micah yes
1112742078 M * Bertl okay ...
1112742743 M * micah the v1.9.5/patch-2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5.diff.bz2 patch applies to 2.6.11.6 fine?
1112742778 M * micah it is the latest listed here: http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/d_rel26/v1.9.5/
1112742803 M * Bertl it should ... but there are more recent patches on http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/
1112742817 M * Bertl I'll upload the latest in a second ...
1112742827 M * micah ok
1112742936 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5.12.diff.bz2
1112742993 M * micah great
1112743224 J * ciphernaut ~a@61.88.18.130
1112743269 M * Bertl hey Elchbulle! missed your appearance ...
1112743272 M * Bertl evening ciphernaut!
1112743328 M * Elchbulle Sorry have to go offline but now Im back :-)
1112743339 M * Elchbulle had
1112743347 M * Bertl np ;)
1112743506 M * ciphernaut morning Bertl
1112743574 M * ciphernaut using knoppix on qemu on xp to test debian on vserver on debian
1112743615 M * Bertl hmm, knoppix != debian ,  no?
1112743641 M * ciphernaut close enough in my books
1112743653 M * Bertl heh, k
1112743662 M * ciphernaut brb
1112743666 Q * ciphernaut Quit: 
1112743942 J * ciphernaut ~a@61.88.18.130
1112743978 M * ciphernaut though I wouldnt use a knoppix install for a server or few
1112744078 M * nox not if your server doesn´t need kde *g*
1112744219 M * micah wow a lot has changed in kernel configs between 2.6.8 and 2.6.11, just finally getting to the vserver part!
1112744230 M * Bertl ;)
1112745460 M * complexho •Bertl• Got some movement on the GFS build - trusty old redhat CVS turned up all the current dev stuff and I have a version built and loaded against 2.6.11-vs1.9.5 :-)
1112745499 M * complexho going to put in all the userland stuff now and see if I can get me some shared mounts :)