1112314795 M * Bertl okay, folks, guess I'm off to bed too ... 1112314809 M * Snow-Man night 1112314826 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1112315815 M * ciphernaut night 1112316788 M * mikegrb I found that all sites I know(inlude mine) at the planet are down. Unable to access servermatrix.com and theplanet.com What's wrong? Alien attack? 1112316793 M * mikegrb er, wrong window 1112316904 M * Snow-Man haha 1112316913 M * Snow-Man I've got a box there too... :) 1112316924 M * mikegrb I thought that post was hilarious 1112316937 M * mikegrb we have bunches of boxes there 1112316938 M * mikegrb 30ish 1112316944 M * Snow-Man Wow. 1112316954 M * Snow-Man What do you do w/ 'em? 1112316955 M * mikegrb (work) 1112316961 M * mikegrb linode.com 1112316981 M * Snow-Man ohh, right, the silly UML folks... :) 1112317017 M * mikegrb xen soon! 1112317034 M * Snow-Man That'd probably be better, though I prefer vserver. :) 1112317046 M * mikegrb indeed 1112317086 M * mikegrb we have boxes at other datacenters too but the website and database the machines connect to is at the planet 1112317086 M * Snow-Man afk a bit. 1112320643 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1112320950 J * ensc|w ~ensc@62.153.82.27 1112320970 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1112321260 J * ensc|w ~ensc@62.153.82.27 1112333377 M * DaPhreak morning guys ! 1112337598 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112341792 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1112341911 J * prae ~prae@134.106-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com 1112342182 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112344547 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.68 1112346778 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1112346896 J * doorman007 ~doorman00@222-152-200-215.jetstream.xtra.co.nz 1112347426 P * doorman007 Leaving 1112348866 Q * virtuoso Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112349825 Q * mcp Read error: Operation timed out 1112349926 Q * prae Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112350217 J * prae ~prae@134.106-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com 1112351157 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112352854 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1112354934 J * Duckx ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1112355507 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1112355949 N * cereal^zZz cereal 1112355987 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1112355993 M * Bertl morning folks! 1112356212 M * DaPhreak morning Bertl :) 1112356275 M * erwan_taf hey Bertl 1112356282 M * DaPhreak Bertl: about your question on the ml (to test your future IO patch for vserver) ... sure ;) here i am .. ready and willing 1112356295 M * DaPhreak lo erwan :) 1112356304 M * Bertl okay, then please go ahead and test 1.9.5.5 1112356315 M * DaPhreak will do :) 1112356320 M * Bertl keep an eye on the blkio counts there 1112356338 M * Bertl i.e. setup some test servers with a 'known' I/O load 1112356348 M * Bertl (something you can reproduce easily) 1112356385 M * Bertl best would be to install rrd and draw a graph of those values 1112356388 M * DaPhreak will do, as soon as i get home :) 1112356401 M * Bertl hey erwan! 1112356443 M * rs hi there 1112356453 M * Bertl hey rs! 1112356456 M * DaPhreak lo rs 1112356601 Q * Duckx Quit: Leaving 1112356858 M * Bertl http://www.google.co.uk/googlegulp/ 1112356871 M * Bertl ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4041.txt 1112356993 M * Zoiah BAhahah! :) 1112357085 M * Bertl http://www.thinkgeek.com/index.shtml 1112357151 N * DaPhreak DaPhreak|off 1112357158 M * DaPhreak|off cu later / tomorrow guys :) 1112357164 M * Bertl cya 1112357660 M * prae Hi DaPhreak|off :) 1112357663 M * prae Hi Bertl 1112357725 M * Bertl hey prae! 1112359237 M * BWare morning 1112359257 M * BWare noon actualy ;) 1112359291 A * erwan_taf jump in prae's arms 1112359343 M * prae :)) 1112359372 Q * aba Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112359378 Q * berni Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112359991 J * Venomous ~kvirc@host143-154.pool8255.interbusiness.it 1112359997 M * Venomous hi all 1112359997 M * Bertl welcome Venomous! 1112360005 M * Venomous hi bertl 1112360025 M * Venomous guys i have some question 1112360044 M * Venomous wich are the difference between freevps and linux-vserver? 1112360078 M * Bertl freevps is based on redhat kernels, and is there to sell h-sphere ... 1112360085 M * Venomous i have seen the documentation of vserver and looks good 1112360110 M * Venomous the documentation of freevps is poor, seem like the team want that you purchase hsphere 1112360120 M * Bertl precisely ;) 1112360128 M * Venomous the problem is that i use RHEL, and i can't use a vanilla kernel 1112360135 M * Venomous due the NPTL 1112360151 M * Bertl 2.6 has NPTL? 1112360160 M * Venomous if i install a vanilla kernel httpd start to segfault 1112360171 M * Venomous no i have tried with a 2.4 1112360189 M * Venomous and some software stopping work 1112360204 M * Bertl well, let me rephrase: 2.6 has NPTL, no? 1112360229 M * Venomous i don't know 1112360230 M * Loki|muh yep 1112360241 J * duckx ~Duck@dyn-83-157-189-40.ppp.tiscali.fr 1112360242 M * Loki|muh i build my gentoo sys with 2.6 and nptl :) 1112360248 M * Bertl Venomous: okay, it was a rethorical question ;) 1112360253 M * Loki|muh with 2.4 thats not possible ;) 1112360283 M * Venomous baiscally i have spent a lot of time with UML 1112360305 M * Venomous but is too much complicated, administration is not simple 1112360320 M * Venomous so i'm tring to use another solution 1112360330 J * ydupont ~dupont-y@tomintoul.cri.univ-nantes.fr 1112360339 M * Venomous any suggestion? 1112360354 M * Bertl yeah, as I said, here now again (in plaintext): 1112360379 M * Bertl you need NPTL? yes? why not use 2.6 kernel (which has NPTL) -> problem solved ;) 1112360422 M * ydupont hello all 1112360437 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112360448 M * Venomous ah 2.6 has NPTL? 1112360462 M * Venomous and there is a patch for 2.6? 1112360506 M * ydupont bertl: juste a very quick question: 1112360568 M * ydupont Bertl: call me dummy, but... Given a 2GB machine, what is th ebest mapping (I don't want to use Highmem)... 1112360569 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/d_rel26/v1.9.5/ 1112360584 M * ydupont For them moemnt I use 2G/2G 1112360585 M * Bertl ydupont: 1.5/2.5 probably 1112360598 M * ydupont ok... 1112360608 M * Bertl 2/2 will give about 1.8GB (better than nothing ;) 1112360627 M * Bertl Venomous: yes, see url above ;) 1112360664 M * Venomous Thanks bertl 1112360667 M * ydupont Ok, I don't understand all pieces involved in thoses mappings 1112360668 M * Venomous i'm going to try 1112360683 M * ydupont why thoses pataches aren't on the default kernel, for exemple 1112360696 M * Bertl Venomous: start with installing vanilla 2.6.11.6 .. make that work on your RHEL ... 1112360709 M * Bertl Venomous: if that work as expected, add the vserver patch 1112360732 M * Bertl ydupont: because the kernel maintainers did not like them for various reasons ... 1112360775 M * ydupont Ok, is there a detailed doc somewhere ?? If I understand correctly the choice is dependant on the lkind of load expected ? 1112360778 M * Bertl in this particular case it was probably because then folks would use them and the bug reports would have different addresses (which might confuse some kernel developers) 1112360781 M * Venomous Ok Bertl 1112360791 M * Venomous i will first install the kernel 1112360793 M * Venomous ;) 1112360822 M * Bertl ydupont: all required documentation is in the patch (i.e. kernel help) 1112360829 M * ydupont mhh :) 1112360835 M * ydupont I'm reading at the moemnt 1112360846 M * ydupont I CONFIG_SPLIT_15GB: │ 1112360846 M * ydupont │ │ 1112360846 M * ydupont │ This split provides 1.5GB userspace and 2.5GB kernel │ 1112360846 M * ydupont │ space, which will result in about 2390MB of lowmem. 1112360889 M * Bertl the only mentionable detail might be that you reduce the userspace address space to 1.5GB ... 1112360907 M * ydupont So If I understand corectly, The sum of UserSpace (the programs by themselve can't surpass 1.5G) 1112360922 M * Bertl no, the address space for each process 1112360926 M * ydupont And the kernel can eat all the memory he wants 1112360928 M * ydupont ok 1112360955 M * Bertl userspace programs can use TB of memory if you provide swap ;) 1112360961 M * ydupont right 1112360984 M * ydupont OK. So in fact you can drive your choixe uniquely by "oh much my kernel can eat ?" 1112361024 M * Bertl if you have an application which 'requires' 2GB of address space 1112361031 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112361041 M * Bertl then you can not use a split which is lower than that 1112361055 M * Bertl (such applications are not very common ;) 1112361055 M * ydupont For exemple I want to favour I/O very much, I gave to favour kernel sapce 1112361056 M * ydupont ok 1112361074 M * ydupont NO. the kind of balance I have here is more kernel oriented 1112361082 M * ydupont READ : cache/buffers 1112361083 M * Bertl not related to I/O stuff and such, just related to the amount of lowmem 1112361113 M * ydupont OK, So a good choice for me is to favour kernel space to GO eat much of my space 1112361130 M * Bertl it's not that kernel or userspace gets the memory 1112361139 M * Bertl it's the address space of kernel and userspace 1112361156 M * Bertl every memory page will typically belong to both spaces 1112361167 M * ydupont yes 1112361169 M * Bertl if the kernel has 1G only 1112361187 M * Bertl then just 1G - kernel - 128M will be visible to user and kernel at once 1112361204 M * Bertl *at one time 1112361216 M * ydupont ... mh I don't get it 1112361221 M * Bertl it requires highmem to swap in/out the rest then 1112361233 M * ydupont ok 1112361245 M * ydupont Thius is the 3/1 split by default ? 1112361257 M * Bertl yep, that's the default 1112361262 M * ydupont OKk udersttod now 1112361287 M * Bertl highmem is not bad, just slower ... 1112361293 M * ydupont yes I know that 1112361303 M * ydupont ok, so I have to go for lowmem > 2G 1112361315 M * ydupont that's whiy you told me 1.5/2.5 1112361334 M * ydupont provided I don't have any application using more than 1.5G at a time... 1112361335 M * Bertl yes, that allows you to disable the highmem and be faster ;) 1112361340 M * ydupont yes 1112361349 M * ydupont ok, tahnks for your clarification 1112361360 M * Bertl you're welcome (and see topic ;) 1112361396 M * ydupont BTW , 2.6 is working like a charm now, I'm migrating my old vservers 1112361419 M * Bertl good to know! thanks for the feedback! 1112361429 M * ydupont and the xen directors + vservers providing services (I told you about that last week) is becoming a reality 1112361452 M * ydupont .. going to recompile my kernel now ;-) 1112361461 M * Bertl k, good luck! 1112361493 M * ydupont bye & thanks one again, have a nice day/weekend 1112361760 M * Bertl thanks you too! 1112362073 J * keyser_soze ~keyser@host12.201-252-44.telecom.net.ar 1112362081 Q * duckx Quit: Client exiting 1112362086 M * Bertl welcome keyser_soze! 1112362400 M * keyser_soze hi...i was going to ask about an easy way to move from the old cfg format to the new one 1112362443 M * keyser_soze but a sh script was posted to the list 1112362508 M * Bertl and now you need a new question? ;) 1112362571 M * Snow-Man I don't understand what RSS from vserver-stat means. 1112362601 M * keyser_soze lol..not really...i will try it 1112362619 M * Snow-Man Resident set size? What does '179K' mean? 1112362627 M * Bertl Snow-Man: it's probably still broken, so mostly nothing useful ;) 1112362635 M * Snow-Man oh, blah. 1112362646 M * Bertl but that reminds me that you could do me a favor 1112362658 M * Snow-Man Well, this system's memory usage increased 100M in a couple hours from last night. :/ 1112362659 M * Bertl i.e. file a bug report to enrico about that 1112362664 M * Snow-Man heh. 1112362674 M * eyck hmm, what do you do with gmail invites? 1112362690 M * Snow-Man This is the same system that seemed to be leaking memory somehow. 1112362698 M * Snow-Man So, little concerned about it all. :) 1112362708 M * Snow-Man Bertl: Can I find out the correct info from /proc or something? 1112362709 J * ntrs ~ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1112362729 M * Bertl Snow-Man: /proc/virtual//limits will show correct info 1112362740 M * Bertl welcome ntrs! 1112362773 M * Snow-Man Bertl: What are those first two columns? 1112362784 M * Snow-Man err, the 2 data columns that aren't -1 and 0 1112362802 M * Snow-Man Peak stats or something? 1112362814 M * Bertl columns are, current / max observed / limit / hits 1112362822 M * Snow-Man ah, ok. 1112362848 M * Bertl limit will soon be splitted into soft and hard ... 1112362849 M * Snow-Man So, for this vserver I have '162636' for current, I'm guessing that means 162M? 1112362857 M * Snow-Man (In RSS) 1112362858 M * Bertl it's in pages .. 1112362864 M * Snow-Man How did I guess. 1112362870 M * Bertl so on x86 your pagesize is 4kb 1112362891 M * Snow-Man RSS of 650M? 1112362903 M * Snow-Man Does that include cache? 1112362914 M * Bertl sounds a little extreme ... but yes I'd say so ... 1112362926 M * Snow-Man I could maybe believe it if it includes cache.. 1112362935 M * Bertl no, no chaches 1112362940 M * Snow-Man well 1112362940 M * Bertl *caches even 1112362942 M * Snow-Man -/+ buffers/cache: 565136 468868 1112362956 M * Snow-Man For the wwhole box... 1112362970 M * Bertl how much memory is there on that system? 1112362974 M * Snow-Man 1G 1112362998 M * Snow-Man Mem: 1034004 1004792 29212 0 75656 364000 1112363021 M * Bertl let me check, maybe I scaled down the RSS values to 1k blocks 1112363104 M * Bertl no, it's pages ... 1112363151 M * Snow-Man uhm. 1112363177 M * Snow-Man I do have highmem on here. 1112363184 M * Snow-Man If that makes a difference... 1112363200 M * Bertl well, if it is 1G it's 1G with or without highmem 1112363216 M * Snow-Man This is 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5 plus the two fixes from 1.9.6 1112363243 M * Snow-Man I thought w/o highmem you only got like 920M or something. 1112363254 M * Bertl depends on the memory split 1112363273 M * Snow-Man CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y 1112363276 M * Snow-Man CONFIG_SPLIT_3GB=y 1112363281 M * Snow-Man CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y 1112363339 M * Bertl well, some folks just _love_ highmem ;) 1112363358 M * Snow-Man Well, I was planning on moving to 2G on this box but last time I tried it kept crashing... 1112363401 M * Bertl the box cannot handle 2GB? 1112363414 M * Snow-Man Didn't seem to, nope. 1112363420 M * Snow-Man Couldn't figure out why. 1112363433 M * Snow-Man It's a colo box tho, I don't have direct access to it, so it could have been anything pretty much.. 1112363454 M * Bertl well, broken hardware is nothing to be taken lightly ... 1112363472 M * Snow-Man The box has been quite stable otherwise. 1112363490 M * Snow-Man My suspicion is that the ram they were trying to add was bad. 1112363549 M * Bertl could be 1112363906 M * Snow-Man So, any thoughts on a good way to figure out what's eating my memory? :) 1112364036 M * Bertl check with ps auxww inside the context 1112364073 M * Snow-Man bleh. 1112364782 J * aba ~aba@sol.turmzimmer.net 1112364803 J * berni ~berni@svr01.mucip.net 1112366341 M * ydupont Bertl: Another question... 1112366390 M * ydupont I have an OOOPS in 2.6.11.6 + vs1.9.5.5 1112366394 M * ydupont at boot. 1112366411 M * ydupont is 1.9.5.5 stable ? 1112366428 M * ydupont or should I stay with 1.9.5 ? 1112366557 M * ydupont the EIP is on get_request 1112367525 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1112367681 M * ydupont OK. 1.9.5 doesn't exhibit the problem 1112368443 M * Bertl hmm, seems I got disconnected 1112368457 M * Bertl ydupont: please upload the oops if possible! 1112368567 M * ydupont well ;( 1112368586 M * ydupont I should compile netconsole I'm afraid 1112368603 M * ydupont my setup is a little bit complicated : 1112368611 M * ydupont SoftRaid (md raid 1) 1112368618 M * ydupont device mapper 1112368622 M * ydupont evms on top of it 1112368646 M * ydupont booting with an initrd to initialize evms , because the root is ON an evms volume 1112368663 M * ydupont oh, yes, of course, evms volume are on top of a lvm2 regin ;-) 1112368741 Q * albeiro Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112368828 M * ydupont the oops exhibits when the initrd load, at evms_activate 1112368842 M * ydupont the EIP is at get_request 1112368855 M * ydupont ig I give you a screenshoit is it sufficient ? 1112368856 M * Bertl this is x86, right? 1112368859 M * ydupont yes 1112368863 M * ydupont P4 HT 1112368868 M * ydupont NO prrempt 1112368880 M * Bertl okay, let me have a look at the screenshot, then I tell ya if it is sufficient ;) 1112368887 M * ydupont 1.5/2.5 split (but this doesn' matter) 1112368895 M * ydupont well I have to reboot the server 1112368914 M * ydupont plesae wait 5 minutes, you'll have it 1112368917 M * Bertl np 1112368932 M * Bertl x25 is not compiled in, I hope? 1112369096 Q * nox uranium.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net 1112369203 M * ydupont whoooo 1112369207 M * ydupont xé(, nope 1112369211 M * ydupont x25, nop 1112369221 M * ydupont whooo, this time Big OOPS, I can't even scroll ;( 1112369243 M * Bertl well, would be strange if you could ;) 1112369248 M * ydupont I give you tyhe screenshot, but you won't get the top 1112369261 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1112369263 M * ydupont Well, sometimes I have an oops, but still get the consolme working 1112369340 M * ydupont done 1112369402 M * ydupont you 'll have it by mail 1112369409 M * Bertl omg! 1112369445 M * ydupont waht ? 1112369570 M * Bertl Oh My God! 1112369581 M * ydupont oh yess... 1112369587 M * ydupont but... 1112369617 M * Bertl well, first we have to wait until yur mail passes my greylisting 1112369642 M * Bertl then I have to save the attachment, just to upload it somewhere where I can view it ... 1112369715 M * Bertl so I guess I just say, please upload an ascii version via netconsole ... 1112369746 M * ydupont well i'll have to recompile, 1112369757 M * ydupont and IO have to go in 20 min maxi I have my train ;( 1112369766 M * ydupont well, I'll try to di it in this time 1112369977 J * shuri sjnesjd@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1112369992 M * shuri hey shuri is in the House! 1112370088 M * Bertl who is shuri? 1112370119 M * shuri a friend 1112370168 J * nox_ ~nox@83.133.126.31 1112370198 M * Bertl shuri: welcome then ;) 1112370239 M * Bertl welcome nox_! 1112370268 M * ydupont bertl Ok, trying netconsole 1112370272 M * ydupont 5 minutes to try 1112370306 M * Bertl don't try, just do it ;) 1112370319 Q * erwan_taf Remote host closed the connection 1112370426 M * ydupont sorrt netconsole haven't worked 1112370440 M * ydupont But this time I still avec the hond on the server 1112370446 M * ydupont I can try another screenshot 1112370453 M * ydupont Or yes have to continue monday 1112370454 M * Bertl okay, please do that 1112370533 M * ydupont ok posted 1112370538 Q * nox_ Server closed connection 1112370547 M * Bertl k, thanks a lot, and enjoy your weekend! 1112370632 M * ydupont oh yes understood 1112370632 J * abelli ~john@ERR.COS.CS.CMU.EDU 1112370634 M * abelli hi there 1112370644 M * ydupont my ssylog is not on the same network, i need routing 1112370657 M * Bertl welcome abelli! 1112370690 M * abelli is there any, peculiar, way to use vservers under debian? 1112370745 M * abelli Bertl: did i say something really stupid? 1112370776 M * Bertl well, smart folks avoid the debian packages .. the adventurous types go for unstable or so ... 1112370790 A * Bertl is not a debian guy ... 1112370826 M * abelli the fact is im on a debian box 1112370830 M * abelli so i must do it the debian way. 1112370839 M * Bertl well, no, actually not 1112370865 M * abelli s/must/would like :) 1112370928 M * Bertl yeah, just you should know .. the 'debian' way looks like this: 1112370952 M * Bertl folks install the debian vserver kernel and tools ... 1112370964 M * Bertl then they come here, because they have some issues 1112370986 M * Bertl here we tell them to upgrade a few versions and use recent tools ... 1112371001 M * Bertl then they have some issues removing the old debian tools 1112371006 M * abelli ahh so there's a debian vserver kernel .. 1112371008 M * abelli ok thank you 1112371020 M * Bertl which causes a lot of trouble ... and after that, they decide to 1112371040 M * Bertl just use the mainline kernel and tools .. which in turn works quite well, even under debian ;) 1112371078 M * Bertl but debian folks are working on it, so checking whatever is the most recent debian version and packages might actually work 1112371211 M * abelli ok thank you 1112371312 M * shuri debian work fine is using the sources codes for kernel and utils-vserver 1112371315 M * shuri not packages 1112371332 M * shuri is = if 1112371394 M * Bertl if abelli is a real debian guy, he will find that out the hard way ... ;) 1112371456 Q * ydupont Quit: Leaving 1112371459 M * abelli does this work on grsecurity? 1112371478 M * Bertl there are patches to combine linux-vserver and grsecurity 1112371564 Q * BWare Read error: Operation timed out 1112371586 J * ntrs ~ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1112371799 M * Venomous sorry guys is "a must" do the repartion of the disk? 1112371820 M * Bertl hmm? 1112371875 M * Venomous does i need to repartion the hd? 1112371901 M * Bertl depends on what you ahve right now, and what you want to do 1112371919 M * Venomous well 1112371936 M * Venomous i want a virtual server to test a bogus script 1112371958 M * Venomous so if i get hacked i get hacked only the virtual machine 1112371968 M * Venomous right now i have this script on UML 1112371975 M * Venomous but the system is very slow 1112371986 M * Venomous so i want try with vserver 1112371999 M * Bertl should work without repartitioning anything 1112372006 M * Venomous thanks 1112372011 M * Venomous bertl 1112372013 M * Bertl just copy the UML data over to a directory 1112372028 M * Bertl (in /vservers/ ) 1112372039 M * Bertl for example /vservers/XXXX 1112372051 M * Venomous but inside menuconfig i can't see any tab related to vserver 1112372076 M * Bertl 2.4 or 2.6 kernel and did you patch it? 1112372079 M * Venomous 2.4 1112372085 M * Venomous yes 1112372088 M * Bertl that's okay, there is none 1112372091 M * Venomous patched 2.4.29 1112372113 M * Venomous does i need to configure something? 1112372116 M * Venomous nothing 1112372121 M * Venomous just recompile? 1112372152 M * Bertl run make menuconfig and save the config 1112372163 M * Bertl the default values should be fine 1112372167 M * Venomous ok 1112372206 M * Venomous how much is faster vserver then uml? 1112372233 M * Bertl well, it's about 2% slower than the real system 1112372249 M * Venomous wow 1112372285 M * Venomous can't wait to try it! 1112372310 M * Bertl keep me up-to-date ... have to leave now, will be back in a few hours 1112372318 M * Venomous ok 1112372319 M * Venomous bye 1112372326 M * Bertl cya folks, back later ... 1112372331 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1112372712 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting 1112373757 J * keyser_soze ~keyser@host12.201-252-44.telecom.net.ar 1112375290 Q * c4y0 Quit: No windows for this server 1112377484 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1112377494 M * Bertl back now ... 1112377743 M * shuri re Bertl 1112377833 M * Bertl hey shuri! everything fine? 1112377870 M * shuri yes 1112377884 M * shuri lot of work 1112378037 M * shuri hey Bertl what happen with the "plesk" job offer to you 1112378327 M * DaPhreak|off Bertl: ? 1112378330 M * Bertl well, nothing so far ... ;) 1112378368 A * DaPhreak|off quotes Bertl's mail 1112378370 M * DaPhreak|off "interesting! who did the forward port?" 1112378384 M * shuri ok 1112378743 Q * daniel_hozac Read error: Operation timed out 1112379066 M * DaPhreak|off <-- gone ;) 1112379102 M * Bertl cya DaPhreak|off 1112379156 M * DaPhreak|off i'll be back ;) 1112379806 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@h75n2fls33o829.telia.com 1112379818 M * Bertl welcome daniel_hozac! 1112379828 M * daniel_hozac thanks. 1112380675 M * Venomous guys 1112380681 M * Venomous dammint i have a problem 1112380696 M * Venomous i have recompiled without ext3 support 1112380713 M * Venomous now it doesn't want mount the /boot partition 1112380723 M * Bertl which is ext3? 1112380735 M * Venomous but it mounted the the root partition 1112380739 M * Venomous the filesystem 1112380753 M * Bertl of course ... because ext3 is ext2 compatible 1112380795 M * Venomous so why it doesnt want load the boot partition? 1112380837 M * Bertl because it's ext3 and you did not tell it to mount it ext2? 1112380843 M * Venomous root]# mount -l 1112380843 M * Venomous /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw) [/] 1112380843 M * Venomous none on /proc type proc (rw) 1112380843 M * Venomous none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) 1112380843 M * Venomous none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) 1112380866 M * Venomous and this is my fstab 1112380876 M * Bertl if you can stand the truth, use cat /proc/mounts ;) 1112381020 M * Venomous wow 1112381027 M * Venomous that's new for me 1112381036 M * Venomous ihave mounted it mount -t ext2 1112381048 M * Venomous so now i can reinstall the old kernel 1112381054 M * Venomous thanks 1112381070 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1112383706 Q * abelli Quit: leaving 1112383916 J * keyser_soze_ ~keyser@host12.201-252-44.telecom.net.ar 1112383931 M * Bertl wb keyser_soze_! 1112383951 M * mikegrb Bertl: welcome! 1112383962 M * Bertl hey mikegrb! 1112383968 M * mikegrb hey Bertl! 1112384071 M * DaPhreak|off hmm Bertl 1112384082 M * Bertl hmm DaPhreak|off? 1112384093 M * DaPhreak|off do i have to activate something additional for you blkio ? 1112384111 M * DaPhreak|off or should there be no message in syslog ? 1112384133 M * Bertl no, not really, should give some 'stats' in /proc/virtual//cacct 1112384412 A * Beirdo hands mikegrb a beer 1112384923 M * mikegrb mmm beer 1112385061 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1112385096 M * Bertl welcome nox! 1112385108 M * nox thx ! 1112385110 M * Venomous guys 1112385112 M * Venomous a problem 1112385126 M * Venomous checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables 1112385143 M * Venomous what does it means? 1112385151 M * Venomous i'm trying to install the tools 1112385174 M * Bertl that your c++ compiler is broken ;) 1112385254 M * kevinp check config.log 1112385273 M * Venomous i have gcc version 3.2.3 1112385316 M * kevinp the error should be more clearly spelled out in config.log 1112385377 M * Venomous ok founf this 1112385381 M * Venomous Configured with: ../gcc-3.3.4/configure --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-checking --with-gnu-ld --verbos$ 1112385382 M * Venomous Thread model: posix 1112385382 M * Venomous gcc version 3.3.4 1112385382 M * Venomous configure:1907: $? = 0 1112385382 M * Venomous configure:1909: g++ -V &5 1112385383 M * Venomous g++: `-V' option must have argument 1112385383 M * Venomous configure:1912: $? = 1 1112385385 M * Venomous configure:1935: checking for C++ compiler default output file name 1112385385 M * Venomous configure:1938: g++ conftest.cc >&5 1112385387 M * Venomous ld: cannot open crtbegin.o: No such file or directory 1112385387 M * Venomous configure:1941: $? = 1 1112385389 M * Venomous configure: failed program was: 1112385389 M * Venomous | /* confdefs.h. */ 1112385410 M * Venomous g++ -V is not valid 1112385418 M * Venomous g++ -v is valid 1112385436 M * Bertl that's fine, it's your crtbegin.o which is missing 1112385461 M * Bertl you said you have gcc 3.2.3, nevertheless this mentiones 3.3.4 ? 1112385492 M * Venomous ops 1112385559 M * Venomous no 1112385560 M * nox s/`TOPIC`/`TOPIC`-max 3 lines paste :) 1112385580 M * Venomous ops sorry guys 1112385595 M * Venomous aniway i have gcc 3.3.4 1112385628 M * Bertl yeah, looks like, still no crtbegin.o? 1112385719 M * Venomous no 1112385748 M * Bertl sec 1112385792 M * Bertl I have a bunch of them, do you want one? ;) 1112385810 M * Venomous ld: cannot open crtbegin.o: No such file or directory 1112385823 M * Venomous found this in config.log 1112385823 M * Bertl seriously, it is located somewhere under ... 1112385841 M * Bertl /usr/lib/gcc-lib/*/3.3.4/crtbegin.o 1112385868 M * Venomous yes but why the configure scipr can't locate it? 1112385884 M * Venomous does i need to copy it inside the installation directory? 1112385888 M * Bertl nope 1112385918 M * Bertl if your compiler is working fine, for c and c++ code, everything should work quite fine 1112385931 M * Bertl what distro is that? 1112385955 M * Venomous this is vey strange 1112385985 M * Venomous i don't have a directory for the lib directory of gcc 3.3.4 1112386006 M * Bertl maybe the lib is not installed? 1112386067 M * Venomous i will take a look 1112386125 M * Venomous this is strange 1112386136 M * Venomous with rpm -qa i get libgcc-3.2.3-20 1112386260 M * Bertl which probably means that you have some kind of mixed setup 1112386269 M * Bertl which explains why the gcc fails ... 1112386281 M * Venomous in fact 1112386286 M * Bertl uninstall *gcc* and *g++* *c++* 1112386288 M * Venomous i'm going to reinstall gcc 1112386354 M * Venomous no 1112386356 M * Venomous wait 1112386360 M * Venomous found the file 1112386460 M * Venomous /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.2.3/crtbegin.o 1112386503 M * Bertl well, 3.2.3 != 3.3.4 ;) 1112386521 M * Bertl it has a good reason why those files are in version tagged dirs ;) 1112386570 M * Venomous yes 1112387732 M * Bertl okay, folks, I'm off to bed now .. probably back in a few hours ... 1112387906 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1112388733 N * Doener_zZz Doener 1112388742 M * Doener evening! 1112388925 Q * keyser_soze_ Quit: Abandonando 1112388925 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1112388943 J * keyser_soze ~keyser@host12.201-252-44.telecom.net.ar 1112389046 N * kevinp kevinp|gone 1112389781 M * Venomous reinstalled gcc and now seems working, i'm compiling 1112390172 Q * ntrs xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * berni xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * aba xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * nox xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * stupidawy xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * Venomous xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * sith xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * atsab xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390172 Q * tchan_ xenon.oftc.net 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* Vudumen xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * ensc|w xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * grecea xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * jd86 xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * cereal xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * Hollow xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * alexx xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * lilo xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * ciphernaut xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * kevinp|gone xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * sannes xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * Doener xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * flock xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * locksy xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * TheSeer xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * Zoiah xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390174 Q * DaCa xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1112390261 J * keyser_soze ~keyser@host12.201-252-44.telecom.net.ar 1112390261 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 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~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1112390261 J * Doener doener@193.24.208.125 1112390477 J * sith_ sith@aaronp.com 1112390592 Q * sith Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112390609 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1112396389 J * herka ~herka@81.185.38.32 1112396686 Q * Venomous Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1112397682 Q * herka Quit: 1112399184 Q * shuri Quit: