1112234652 Q * dmnd Remote host closed the connection 1112234927 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1112234939 M * Bertl morning folks! 1112235810 M * Doener morning Bertl! 1112235866 M * Bertl hey Doener! everything fine? 1112235907 M * Doener yup yup, thanks for asking... what about you? getting up at 4am is kinda unusual for you ;) 1112235931 A * Doener .oO( hmm... i got up at 22pm... at least as unusual... ;) 1112235939 M * Bertl yeah, was up since 6am in the morning yesterday 1112235941 M * Doener s/22pm/10pm/ 1112235968 A * Bertl isn't that young anymore ;) 1112236457 M * Doener btw, I've seen that you read up on copyright notices... only "Copyright" and the c with the circle around it are valid, right? 1112236489 M * Bertl yes, the copyright symbol and more important the work 'Copyright' 1112239812 N * cereal cereal^zZz 1112244724 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: still around? 1112244985 M * DaPhreak morning you two ! 1112245009 M * Bertl hey DaPhreak! 1112245110 M * Doener morning DaPhreak! 1112245225 M * DaPhreak why must it be so damn early ?! :) 1112245247 M * Bertl you mean late, right? 1112245317 M * DaPhreak no, i mean early :P i'm up since 0530am ... and so damn tired ;P 1112246255 Q * Snow-Man Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112249548 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1112249902 M * ciphernaut if it helps anyone at all, I have been setting up vservers using apt-cacher.... works a treat 1112249918 M * ciphernaut debian all the way 1112249929 M * Bertl aha, what's that? 1112249953 M * ciphernaut apt-get redirection for caching debian packages 1112249996 M * ciphernaut you oint your sources.list to its taget, via your apt-cacher setup 1112250004 M * ciphernaut point even 1112250132 M * ciphernaut vserver some_vserver_name build --hostname -m debootstrap -- -d sarge -m http://local_eth_ip_address/apt-cacher/ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ 1112250168 M * ciphernaut subsequent builds are a lot faster, even for sarge targets 1112250206 M * Bertl i.c. 1112251357 M * eyck is the c with the circle around it copyrighted? 1112251774 M * Bertl ahem? you mean if the 'symbol' is copyrighted? 1112253010 J * IceTi 125@mw635449.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de 1112253094 M * Bertl morning Timo! 1112253113 M * IceTi morning! 1112253118 M * BWare morning 1112253216 M * IceTi hmm I am now on the site from Jacques 1112253223 M * IceTi very god site , but ... 1112253250 M * IceTi can U translate me this: System V inter process communications 1112253251 M * IceTi Sysv IPC resources are private to each vserver. The security context is used as an extra key to select and assign resources 1112253287 M * IceTi the other thinks are clear but this! i don´t know and I can´t translate it really ;-) 1112253302 M * IceTi what doeas that mean 1112253350 M * IceTi and öhm this site from jack is up 2 date or? 1112253405 M * Hollow DaPhreak: pingy 1112253412 M * Hollow morning btw ;) 1112253593 M * DaPhreak morning Hollow, IceTi, BWare 1112253607 M * Hollow DaPhreak: can you mail me your vcopy again? 1112253611 M * IceTi morning 1112253615 M * BWare morning 1112253636 M * DaPhreak hmm .. wait a sec 1112253949 P * spocki 1112254029 M * IceTi hmm how many disk space have the vservers when iam not extra configur eit? 1112254035 M * IceTi or hwo can i configure that? 1112254054 M * Hollow they have space as much space as the disk has 1112254070 M * Hollow you can use vdlimit 1112254193 M * IceTi so with cdlimit can i configure each vserver? 1112254205 M * IceTi for example vs1 has only 1 GB? 1112254212 M * Hollow you can configure disk limits for each vserver 1112254220 M * Hollow yup 1112254239 M * IceTi hmmm must i install vdlinmit? 1112254246 M * IceTi i think i don´r have it ;-) 1112254253 M * Bertl me neither ;) 1112254284 M * IceTi hmm 1112254286 M * IceTi ok 1112254290 M * IceTi i understand ;-) 1112254303 M * Bertl do you? 1112254324 M * IceTi i just wanna now that ;-) .... no i not, too! 1112254328 M * IceTi oh bad bad english 1112254362 M * IceTi :-) 1112254558 M * IceTi (Bertl): can U please translate me that?:Sysv IPC resources are private to each vserver. The security context is used as an extra key to select and assign resources. 1112254572 M * IceTi (Bertl): i dont check that ;-) ! 1112254655 M * Bertl 'Sysv IPC resourcen werden pro vserver verwaltet. der security kontext wird als key verwendet um die resourcen anzusprechen" 1112254793 M * IceTi hmm ok danke ;-) 1112254913 M * IceTi what is Sysv IPC? 1112254935 M * IceTi Interprozesskommunikation ??? 1112254938 M * Bertl System V (Five) Inter Process Communication 1112254943 M * IceTi yes :-) 1112255073 M * Bertl k, folks, I'm off to bed now .. have a nice whatever ... 1112255083 M * sebd good sleep 1112255108 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1112255110 M * IceTi nigth 1112255169 M * IceTi some german guys here? 1112256875 M * eyck nope, only cute finnish chicks. 1112257048 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112259281 J * mobily ~merc@203-59-113-90.dyn.iinet.net.au 1112259290 M * mobily Hello People 1112259293 M * mobily Anybody here? 1112259321 M * mobily Nope? 1112259327 M * mobily (damn) 1112259377 M * aba there are always people here, but without asking a question, you're likly to don't get any answer ... 1112259407 M * mobily Oh OK. It's just that it's early morning in the US, and... 1112259420 M * mobily Anyway, I'm Tony Mobily. I am organising Free Software magazine 1112259425 M * aba and it's 11:00 here. 1112259427 M * mobily We are talking about "Virtual machines" 1112259434 M * mobily "Virtual servers" 1112259455 M * mobily I was talking to Herbert about writing an article about Linux VServer, but I never got an answer backl 1112259498 M * mobily I love Linux Vserver, and I wouldn't want to talk about virtual servers without mentioning Linux Vserver (we already have an article about XEN) 1112259501 M * mobily So... 1112259508 M * aba mobily: for Herbert, you'll probabl need to wait for some more hours :P 1112259527 M * mobily Well, I sent him that email quite a while ago... 1112259544 M * mobily Basically, I need to know if he (or somebody else) can write it. 1112259585 M * aba mobily: Bertl went to bed 1 hours ago ... 1112259602 M * mobily OK 1112259612 M * mobily Aba: can you spread the word about this one? 1112259635 M * aba mobily: he'll probably read the backlog. Just stay here and wait till he answers ... 1112259651 M * mobily I can't really stay here, I have to go home 1112259658 M * mobily I am in Australia right now, it's 5:00PM here :-) 1112259701 M * aba mobily: start IRC in a screen, and just suspend the screen ... 1112259715 M * mobily True. 1112259723 M * mobily I can do that on the server... 1112259781 M * mobily Anyhow, it would be better if Herbert could let me know by email... 1112260394 M * mobily see you laeter... 1112260395 M * mobily later 1112260397 Q * mobily Quit: mobily 1112262108 Q * Hollow Quit: rebooting 1112263455 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1112263491 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1112263498 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de 1112263714 J * guest ~guest@sherpadown.net 1112263745 N * guest prae 1112263750 M * prae yarglala 1112263754 M * prae Doener, here ? 1112263903 Q * prae charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * Snow-Man charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * DuckKing charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * BWare charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * brc_ charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * SiD3WiNDR charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * micah charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * bro charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * cereal^zZz charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * grecea charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * Beirdo charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * click charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * jd86 charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * ndim charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * Steven| charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * Seraph charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * Jason357 charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112263903 Q * mikegrb charm.oftc.net orion.oftc.net 1112264133 J * Seraph kk@projects.verfaction.de 1112264152 J * ndim hun@helena.bawue.de 1112264162 Q * matta-lt_ Read error: Operation timed out 1112264164 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1112264173 J * micah micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1112264244 J * Jason357 ~m00@67.159.26.120 1112264254 J * cereal^zZz ~cereal@stargate-galaxy.net 1112264477 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1112264674 J * click click@dsl-static-122-208.aal.tiscali.no 1112264844 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1112264850 J * prae ~guest@sherpadown.net 1112264869 J * DuckKing ~Duck@dyn-83-157-130-76.ppp.tiscali.fr 1112265042 J * jd86 ~jim@ip68-9-97-23.ri.ri.cox.net 1112265213 J * grecea ~grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1112266273 J * dr_nick ~markus@p213.54.142.219.tisdip.tiscali.de 1112266278 M * dr_nick hi 1112266403 M * dr_nick i've got some trouble with a machine running vservers. it's a debian machine with kernel 2.4.27 and a stable vserver patch (can't remember the version number, how can i find out?) 1112266428 M * dr_nick it's been running fine until we had a power failure a few weeks ago. 1112266449 M * TheSeer uname -a should show you 1112266479 M * dr_nick now all vservers and all the services in the vservers (mail, www, java stuff) are running fine, but vserver-stat only shows *one* vserver running 1112266482 M * dr_nick Linux server 2.4.27-k7+ctx #1 Fri Oct 22 19:11:41 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux 1112266503 M * TheSeer oh.. ;> 1112266509 M * TheSeer well.. that doesn't really include the version hehe 1112266511 M * dr_nick i can enter all vserver or ssh them, but they show up different hostnames 1112266542 M * TheSeer you might want to wait until Berl is back ;) 1112266546 M * dr_nick one vserver is called "mail", another one "www". if i "vserver mail enter", it shows me "www" in the bash prompt 1112266567 M * TheSeer do you use static contexts? 1112266593 M * dr_nick also, i can see all processes of all vservers when i'm in a vserver. on the root server, i can only see theh processes running there (unless using vtop) 1112266601 M * dr_nick what's that? 1112266604 M * dr_nick :-o 1112266663 M * dr_nick server:~# vserver-stat 1112266664 M * dr_nick CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME DESCRIPTION 1112266664 M * dr_nick 0 31 94MB 13kB 30m56.97 6m33.88 14d01h12 root server 1112266664 M * dr_nick 49152 192 2GB 673kB 6h56m23 20m08.84 14d01h12 students 1112266670 M * DaPhreak dr_nick: have you defined a context for each vserver in your config (this is a _static_ context) 1112266682 M * dr_nick oh, yes. 1112266724 M * dr_nick server:/etc/vservers# vserver www status 1112266725 M * dr_nick Server www is running 1112266823 M * dr_nick hmm, when i think about it... i have not rebooted that thing in a lifetime, but i have updated the debian vserver-utils package, using the testing distribution... maybe that's where i should look for the problem 1112267051 M * dr_nick hmm, i see there are new vserver patches in the debian archive, maybe i should update my whole environment before coming back, hopefully that will fix things :-) 1112267061 M * dr_nick thanks a lot anyways 1112267195 Q * ndim Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112267507 J * ndim hun@helena.bawue.de 1112269135 A * dr_nick looks at the util-vserver debian changelog 1112269137 M * dr_nick * Important bugfix to make sure that two vservers do not get the same 1112269137 M * dr_nick context number, closes: #288694. 1112269171 M * dr_nick sounds like that is/was my problem... i'm "rebooting" my vservers right now 1112269301 M * dr_nick ok, fixed :-) 1112269371 J * herka ~herka@81.185.38.32 1112270475 M * dr_nick is there any source for up-to-date debian kernel packages with vserver patches applied? it's not a problem to compile kernels myself, but it's not that convenient 1112270751 M * aba dr_nick: no, but install the appropriate debian packages, and there you go (as make-kpgk can apply patches on the fly) 1112271626 J * brc_ bruce@200165239109.user.veloxzone.com.br 1112271651 J * Pr3-H1st0r1k Pr3-H1st0r@82-42-178-105.cable.ubr06.knor.blueyonder.co.uk 1112271653 J * bro ~vanity@lanparty.lv 1112271658 Q * Pr3-H1st0r1k Quit: 1112271747 M * IceTi How can I test my vserver? 1112272176 M * dr_nick aba: yes, that's how i'm doing it. but i don't get why they don't distribute their default kernel configuration without the kernel binaries. what i'm doing is install the kernel tree, install the kernel image, take the kernel image configuration from /boot, use make-kpkg to build the default debian kernel with vserver-patch and install it. 1112272302 M * dr_nick cause i don't want to fiddle with the kernel configuration itself, the debian kernel works fine, and i don't see a reason to spend hours configuring my perfect kernel [tm]... 1112272447 M * aba dr_nick: well, there are much ideas how to make the kernel packages better, but the packaging is frozen now for the reason that we want to release soon ... 1112272813 M * dr_nick bye, i have to go... 1112272815 Q * dr_nick Quit: leaving 1112275610 Q * IceTi Quit: get satisfied! • :: ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» www.gamersirc.net :: 1112277814 J * dacoffey ~bobgoat@wv-morgantown-cdnt1-bg1-4e-152.mgtnwv.adelphia.net 1112277840 P * dacoffey 1112279566 M * Doener prae: what's up? 1112280020 Q * wfamy Read error: Operation timed out 1112280595 M * maharaja doener: to test my new kernel, i shall run test.sh - right? 1112280608 M * maharaja uhm, testme.sh 1112280639 M * Doener yep, good idea 1112280666 J * wfamy bill@lns-vlq-48-mar-82-251-23-1.adsl.proxad.net 1112280716 M * maharaja [031]# failed. 1112280718 M * maharaja [202]# failed. 1112280737 M * Doener please run with -v 1112280744 M * maharaja k 1112280759 M * maharaja [031]# chcontext --hostname zaphod.2277 uname -a | grep -q zaphod.2277 1112280759 M * maharaja [031]# failed. 1112280764 M * maharaja [202]# chcontext --flag fakeinit bash -c 'test $$ -eq 1' 1112280764 M * maharaja [202]# failed. 1112280777 M * maharaja don't know what that should do thou 1112280815 M * maharaja vcontext: vc_xidopt2xid(""): No such file or directory 1112280835 M * Doener 031 checks if hostname virtualization works, 202 checks if init-pid virtualization works... 1112280839 M * Doener what arch is that? 1112280848 M * Doener patch and tools version? 1112280848 M * maharaja i386 1112280856 M * maharaja Linux backup 2.6.11.6-grsec-vs1.9.5-p4b 1112280863 M * maharaja tools: 0.30.205 1112280888 M * Doener ah, right, you did grsec merging... 1112280892 M * maharaja jupp 1112280927 M * Doener did grsec complain when you ran testme.sh? 1112280937 M * maharaja no 1112280965 M * maharaja nothing 1112280996 M * Doener hum, hum... 1112281024 M * Doener can you make the patch available so that i can have a look at it? 1112281045 M * maharaja the whole vanilla->grsec-vs patch? 1112281083 M * Doener either that or against 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5 1112281100 M * maharaja k 1112281130 M * maharaja have to extract/patch the kernel - will take some minutes 1112281133 M * Doener i guess "p4b" is something like "pentium 4 barfoo"? i.e. not another patch that has been applied 1112281144 M * maharaja jupp 1112281148 M * maharaja pentium4 backup 1112281161 M * maharaja so i can keep track of the different configs :) 1112281267 M * maharaja diff -NurpP --minimal ? 1112281320 M * Doener should be fine 1112281321 M * maharaja (its the one bertl uses for his vs patches) 1112281322 M * maharaja k 1112281325 M * maharaja *waiting* 1112281345 M * Doener what kind of box is that? 1112281356 M * maharaja ordinary p4 1112281365 M * maharaja mhm 1112281366 M * maharaja old p4 1112281370 M * maharaja with 1.5ghz 1112281380 M * maharaja 1st generation :) 1112281391 M * Doener hmm... not using hardlinked kernel source trees? takes just a few seconds or less here to get a diff... 1112281436 M * maharaja what do you mean? 1112281454 M * maharaja how do i create such kernel trees? 1112281474 M * aba cp -al 1112281478 M * maharaja (i guess you save space + time by hardlinking all files that are not touched 1112281480 M * aba (or whatever) 1112281491 M * maharaja i guess ill try that later on :) 1112281549 M * maharaja still waiting 1112281564 M * maharaja or - did you mean what kind of box i compile on? 1112281564 M * Doener $ time diff -NurpP --minimal a b > /dev/null 1112281564 M * Doener real 0m0.541s 1112281564 M * Doener user 0m0.385s 1112281564 M * Doener sys 0m0.152s 1112281578 M * maharaja because thats an amd 800 1112281585 M * maharaja well - its still running 1112281593 M * Doener that's 2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5 against 2.6.11.5 1112281596 M * maharaja ah 1112281600 M * maharaja i did not make clean it 1112281618 M * Doener ok, that's going to take some time then ;) 1112281640 M * maharaja make clean or make mrproper? 1112281650 M * maharaja mhm 1112281658 M * Doener hm, with 2.6 i use distclean 1112281659 M * maharaja ok, retrying 1112281717 M * Doener btw, the above times are probably too low, guess both kernel trees are fully cached atm 1112281860 Q * herka Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112281941 M * maharaja np 1112281948 M * maharaja the patch is still below the grsec one 1112281962 M * maharaja 528k patchfile right now 1112281970 M * maharaja still growing 1112282058 M * maharaja done 1112282175 M * maharaja http://www.ipax.at/~raoul/vserver/ 1112282363 M * maharaja which is the prefix for vserver related stuff? 1112282367 M * maharaja vx_ ? 1112282378 M * Doener in the source? 1112282413 M * Doener IIRC vx_ and vc_, source files got vs_... 1112282434 M * Doener cscoping now... will take a minute or two... 1112282499 M * maharaja np 1112282500 M * maharaja brb 1112282522 M * Doener ok, done... 1112282539 M * Doener now let's try to get an idea what borks ;) 1112282989 M * Doener hm, where's the testme.sh hidden on the web now? can't find it ;) 1112283066 M * maharaja dunno 1112283073 M * maharaja somewhere in bertls stuff 1112283081 M * maharaja but i too lost the link 1112283103 M * maharaja http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/ 1112283110 M * Doener yeah, just found it ;) 1112283118 M * Doener but thanks for looking 1112283123 M * maharaja np 1112283194 M * Doener chcontext --xid 12345 --hostname zaphod.$$ sleep 60 & 1112283215 M * Doener then (within 60 seconds ;) cat /proc/virtual/12345/cvirt 1112283597 M * maharaja ? 1112283619 M * Doener do that as root in a shell and let me know the output 1112283671 M * maharaja http://www.nopaste.info/index.php?id=47438de631 1112283705 M * Doener now: chcontext --hostname zaphod.$$ uname -a 1112283731 M * maharaja during that 60 seconds? 1112283735 M * maharaja or after that 1112283754 M * Doener doesn't matter 1112283765 M * maharaja vcontext: vc_xidopt2xid(""): No such file or directory 1112283771 M * maharaja is the output 1112283827 M * maharaja sorry, gotta go now until 21:00 1112283832 M * maharaja lecture ;) 1112283835 M * maharaja cu later 1112283837 M * Doener ok, cya! 1112284283 Q * prae Quit: Leaving 1112284533 M * Vudumen hi allz 1112284815 M * Doener hi Vudumen 1112284843 M * Doener maharaja: the hostname thing is a bug in util-vserver 0.30.205... 1112284941 M * Doener ensc|w: around? 1112285072 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112285074 Q * BWare Read error: Operation timed out 1112285080 M * Vudumen i tried virtuozzo but i don't like it :/ 1112285086 M * Vudumen i like vserver much more :) 1112285171 M * Doener great :) 1112285183 J * BWare ~bware@office.intouch.net 1112285187 M * Doener are there any features in virtuozzo you'd like to see in linux-vserver? 1112285356 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1112285977 Q * BWare Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112286560 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.195 1112286709 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1112286733 M * Bertl evening folks! 1112286767 M * DaCa hi Bertl 1112286804 M * Vudumen hi Bertl :) 1112286819 M * wfamy hi bertl 1112286834 M * Vudumen Doener: well the control panel looks so cool but it was annoing for me :/ i didn't found the settings i wanted :) 1112287182 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl. what did you want earlier? 1112287200 M * maharaja doener: will you tell ensc? 1112287211 M * Doener yep... 1112287212 M * Bertl so folks, do we want an article in the Free Software Magazine ? 1112287214 M * maharaja vudumen: which control panel? 1112287221 M * maharaja bertl: whats that :) 1112287240 M * Doener chcontent is broken for dynamic contexts in .205 1112287256 M * Doener s/content/context/ 1112287283 M * Bertl ah, so that is no x86_64 oddity then? 1112287313 M * Bertl maharaja: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/ 1112287409 M * Doener Bertl: yup, chcontext now checks if the 'given' context is static and if not, it always tries to migrate to the 'given' context... of course for creation of dynamic contexts there's no given context, thus it fails 1112287546 M * Bertl interesting, and I was hunting bugs yesterday in dietlibc ;) 1112287560 M * Doener hm, what error did you get? 1112287578 M * Doener the util-vserver bug reads: 17:42:45 maharaja vcontext: vc_xidopt2xid(""): No such file or directory 1112287583 M * Bertl two tests (of testme.sh) did fail (based on dynamic contexts) 1112287660 M * Bertl okay, so let's fix up the broken tools then ... 1112287686 M * Doener done ;) 1112287693 M * Bertl excellent, patch? 1112287702 M * Doener sec 1112287719 M * maharaja bertl: what shall we do about that article or - to put it in another way - why do you need us to tell? :) 1112287732 M * maharaja i too would like to try the patch :) 1112287989 M * Doener http://www.13thfloor.at/~doener/vserver/patches/diff-util-vserver-0.30.205-chcontext-dynamic-fix.diff 1112288026 M * maharaja *compiling* 1112288027 M * Bertl well, it seems that the guy who asked me is a little impatient ... and I also forwarde the original 'request' to the ml, but got no feedback yet ... 1112288051 M * Bertl so I think that the community is not much interested in such articles ... 1112288060 M * albeiro gr. i am running out of passwords. too many machines with too many accounts ;p 1112288063 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112288069 M * Doener Bertl: hm, could we reverse the order of the files on http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/ ? 1112288075 M * Bertl evening mhepp! 1112288076 M * maharaja i have to take a look @ the ml 1112288084 M * Doener i.e. having the most recent at top 1112288086 M * Bertl Doener: most recent first? 1112288092 M * Bertl k, no problem ... 1112288163 M * Bertl maybe we should also split it by month or so? 1112288209 M * Doener yep, good idea 1112288247 M * maharaja applied your patch 1112288250 M * maharaja but it still fails 1112288271 M * Doener same error? 1112288275 M * maharaja yes 1112288290 M * maharaja hope that i did compile/install it the right way 1112288322 M * Doener grep test `which chcontext` | grep INFO 1112288338 M * Doener should look like this: if test -z "$OPT_CTX" || $_VSERVER_INFO -q "$OPT_CTX" XIDTYPE static; then 1112288350 M * Doener that's the only change the patch does... 1112288354 M * maharaja i saw it 1112288404 M * maharaja # grep INFO /usr/local/sbin/chcontext 1112288404 M * maharaja $_VSERVER_INFO - FEATURE migrate || exec $_CHCONTEXT_COMPAT "$@" 1112288404 M * maharaja if $_VSERVER_INFO -q "$OPT_CTX" XIDTYPE static; then 1112288419 M * maharaja ill do make clean 1112288423 M * Doener no 1112288441 M * maharaja but thats wrong 1112288455 M * maharaja ah, my fault 1112288476 M * maharaja ok 1112288479 M * maharaja all suceeded 1112288483 M * Doener great! 1112288493 M * maharaja i untared it in the wrong dir :) 1112288500 M * maharaja /root instead of / 1112288534 M * Doener "make clean" isn't necessary since we're dealing with a script that is copied as is 1112288562 M * maharaja ah 1112288562 M * maharaja ic 1112288563 M * maharaja :) 1112288572 M * maharaja did not bother to check that deep 1112288575 M * maharaja ok, off again 1112288580 M * Doener cya 1112288584 M * maharaja borrowed the laptop of my mate 1112288595 M * maharaja and he is getting angry because he wants to play super mario *g* 1112288618 M * Doener he should play super tux instead ;) 1112288972 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, devel 1.9.5, ng9.4 -- He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1112288972 T * Bertl - 1112288979 M * Doener wb Pinky ;) 1112289080 M * Bertl so do we still need reverse date order? 1112289168 M * maharaja re 1112289178 M * maharaja i did not see that announcement/request in the mailinglist 1112289181 M * Doener hmm... my actual intention was: bookmark http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG and have the latest log(s) directly available without scrolling ;) 1112289222 M * Doener but i can live with the current setup as well, more clicks, but at least no scrolling 1112289234 M * maharaja doener: whats your real name? 1112289238 A * Doener hates scrolling when he wants something _fast_ 1112289247 M * Doener /whois ;) 1112289296 M * Doener but for the log: it's Bjoern Steinbrink (actually Björn, but i try to avoid german umlauts on irc) 1112289340 M * Bertl öhüm? (would Timo say ;) 1112289373 M * Doener *LOL* 1112289406 A * Doener wonders if Timo was serious about Jack's page being up-to-date 1112289454 M * Doener maharaja: ah, you already sent the patch to the ml, thanks! 1112289567 M * kevinp Does anyone know what vserver package virtualmin (part of webmin) uses? 1112290186 M * kevinp nevermind, it's not talking about real virtual servers, just virtual hosts 1112290531 M * Bertl Doener: also added a redirect for google ;) 1112290813 M * Doener fine :-) 1112291556 M * maharaja re 1112291562 M * maharaja yes i did :) 1112291603 M * Bertl kevinp: IIRC, there was somebody adapting webmin to vserver stuff ... maybe you should google around a little? 1112291636 M * maharaja bertl: can you point me to the post about fsm ? 1112291647 M * Bertl fsm being? 1112291653 M * maharaja freesoftwaremagazin 1112291663 M * maharaja you said that it has been posted to the ml 1112291791 M * Bertl ah, okay, sec 1112291815 M * Bertl http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg09188.html 1112291825 A * Bertl really loves google ;) 1112291890 M * Vudumen maharaja: virtuozzo cp 1112292135 M * maharaja bertl: ill take a look after dinner :) 1112292158 M * Bertl excellent! enjoy your dinner! 1112292163 J * c4y0 ~cmora@200.75.68.67 1112292173 M * Bertl welcome c4y0! 1112292206 M * c4y0 hi =) 1112292359 J * Tbery ~tb@pha-84-242-127-4.nat.karneval.cz 1112292366 M * Tbery HI 1112292376 M * Bertl welcome Tbery! 1112292384 M * Tbery Bertl, i HAVE PROBLEM WITH MYSQL..ON VIRTUAL SERVER.. 1112292394 M * Tbery Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. 1112292394 M * Tbery Please take a look at the syslog. 1112292395 M * Bertl no need to shout! ;) 1112292424 M * Tbery NO.. 1112292425 A * Bertl is now looking at his syslog ;) 1112292509 M * Bertl Tbery: so what's in _your_ syslog? 1112292510 M * Tbery mysqld_safe[2240]: started 1112292510 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: ^G/usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibqHmxm2' (Errcode: 13) 1112292510 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13 1112292510 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 Can't init databases 1112292510 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 Aborting 1112292512 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: 1112292514 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 InnoDB: Warning: shutting down a not properly started 1112292517 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: InnoDB: or created database! 1112292519 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown Complete 1112292521 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld[2243]: 1112292523 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:28 klobouk2 mysqld_safe[2245]: ended 1112292525 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:34 klobouk2 /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: 0 processes alive and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resul 1112292529 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:34 klobouk2 /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed 1112292533 M * TheSeer moaaaaha 1112292535 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:34 klobouk2 /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) 1112292538 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:34 klobouk2 /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! 1112292541 M * Tbery Mar 31 19:58:34 klobouk2 /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: 1112292544 M * TheSeer Tbery: ->>>>> http://paste.phpfi.com 1112292551 M * DaCa TheSeer: wait, theres more :) 1112292572 M * Tbery mysqld_safe[2240]: started 1112292572 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: ^G/usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibqHmxm2' (Errcode: 13) 1112292572 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13 1112292572 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 Can't init databases 1112292572 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 Aborting 1112292573 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: 1112292574 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 InnoDB: Warning: shutting down a not properly started 1112292576 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: InnoDB: or created database! 1112292578 M * TheSeer gnaaa 1112292578 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: 050331 19:58:28 /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown Complete 1112292580 M * Tbery mysqld[2243]: 1112292582 M * Tbery mysqld_safe[2245]: ended 1112292584 M * TheSeer !kick Tbery 1112292584 M * Tbery /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: 0 processes alive and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in 1112292584 M * albeiro gr 1112292587 M * Tbery /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed 1112292589 M * Tbery /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' 1112292596 M * Tbery /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! 1112292597 M * TheSeer Bertl: doo something ;/ 1112292599 M * Tbery /etc/init.d/mysql[2287]: 1112292605 M * daniel_hozac TheSeer: /null TBery ;) 1112292606 M * Bertl yeah, really could you past it a second time .. didn't get all yet ;) 1112292610 M * Tbery http://phpfi.com/56173 1112292629 M * albeiro actualy he cannot - this channel is not registered :/ 1112292667 F * ChanServ +o Bertl 1112292670 M * Bertl no? 1112292673 M * TheSeer hehe 1112292674 M * Tbery Bertl, wheer is a problem?? 1112292681 F * Bertl -o Bertl 1112292712 M * albeiro Bertl: how nice :] 1112292713 M * Bertl Tbery: rule is simple 1112292726 M * Bertl you ahve a few lines (few is 1-5 at most) 1112292736 M * Bertl you paste them in the channel ... 1112292754 M * Bertl you have more stuff ... use pastebin or some url of yours 1112292762 M * Tbery now is better 1112292768 M * Tbery etc/init.d/mysql restart 1112292768 M * Tbery Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld. 1112292768 M * Tbery Starting MySQL database server: mysqld. 1112292768 M * Tbery Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background. 1112292785 M * Tbery I have not 777 /tmp 1112292791 M * Tbery chmod 1112292806 M * Bertl yeah, the first line of the syslog entry did suggest something like that ;) 1112292895 M * Tbery thx 1112292913 M * Tbery Im finishnig New aplicatin.. 1112292917 M * Tbery aplication.. 1112292931 M * Bertl aha? want to elaborate? 1112292934 M * Tbery Like webmin but for easiers users.. 1112292948 M * Bertl any preview or so? 1112292955 M * Tbery look http://zs-ln.cz:11011 1112292963 M * Tbery tb 1112292966 M * Tbery 12 1112292988 M * wfamy does someone know is util-vserver 0.30.203 allow vserver-copy work? 1112293002 M * Tbery Try hack it.. 1112293003 Q * maharaja Read error: Operation timed out 1112293006 M * Tbery some body.. 1112293019 M * Tbery some body.. http://zs-ln.cz:11011 1112293032 M * Bertl well, wwe do not even understand the language ;) 1112293039 M * TheSeer wfamy: vserver-copy will only work with old style configuration 1112293061 M * wfamy when i do vserver-copy zope zope2 it tell me the /etc/vservers/zope.conf do not exist 1112293067 M * wfamy oki 1112293069 M * TheSeer exactly 1112293074 M * TheSeer you have a newstyle setup 1112293080 M * wfamy yes 1112293095 M * wfamy fighting with it :-) 1112293098 M * albeiro Tbery: it looks i can own that machine 1112293099 M * TheSeer rsync vserver1 to vserver2 and cp -r the /etc/versver setup 1112293103 M * Bertl wfamy: you can try newest tools, they might support it 1112293111 M * albeiro old kernel with plenty of bugs there ;] 1112293113 M * DaCa Bertl: security by obscurity :) 1112293115 M * TheSeer Bertl: nope ;) 1112293128 M * Bertl DaCa: yeah, right ;) 1112293141 M * TheSeer Bertl: but someone had a nice script here that would do the trick anyway 1112293158 M * daniel_hozac vcopy? 1112293255 M * TheSeer http://home.xnull.de/misc/vcopy 1112293256 M * TheSeer yeah 1112293278 M * TheSeer wfamy: try that script... 1112293305 M * TheSeer try to understand what it does first though ;) 1112293375 M * TheSeer vcopy 1112293403 M * TheSeer e.g. vcopy zope zope2 eth0 192.168.1.10 1112293409 M * wfamy i will have a look and learn 1112293421 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: you were talking of dietlibc for x86_64/fc3 yesterday, right? 1112293468 J * mikegrb ~michael@thegrebs.com 1112293568 M * Bertl welcome mikegrb! 1112293612 M * mikegrb thanks Bertl 1112293698 J * Beirdo_ ~gjhurlbu@linode.beirdo.ca 1112293742 M * Bertl wb Beirdo_! 1112293818 M * TheSeer okay.. heading home.. 1112293855 M * Beirdo_ thanks :) 1112294023 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, there? 1112294095 N * Beirdo_ Beirdo 1112295410 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nevermind, got it from the cvs ;) 1112296156 Q * Nesh Quit: BitchX: not from concentrate 1112296700 M * Beirdo what a pain that all was 1112296725 M * Beirdo there was a massive power failure at ThePlanet... which is the colo my linode is in 1112296779 M * Bertl so it took some time? 1112296797 M * Beirdo putting it mildly :) 1112296805 M * Beirdo it went off at 5:15am EST 1112296826 M * Beirdo came back on at 1:15pm EST 1112297067 Q * brc_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112297086 M * Bertl does anybody know how to locate/contact fefe (dietlibc)? 1112297341 J * maharaja maharaja@ipax.at 1112297403 M * Bertl wb maja! 1112297473 M * maharaja re 1112297485 M * maharaja damn server/switch :) 1112297496 M * maharaja had to drive to interxion 1112297534 M * Bertl kick asses? ;) 1112297573 M * maharaja ? 1112297628 M * maharaja trying to kick some ass - but everybody says that it's not his fault 1112297631 M * maharaja :) 1112297633 M * Bertl was it a problem on your side, or on their (uplink) 1112297638 M * maharaja mine 1112297651 M * Bertl well, then you just can kick your own, I guess ;) 1112297657 M * maharaja not really 1112297662 M * maharaja that hp procurve switch is not working as expected 1112297671 M * maharaja still searching for the cause 1112297757 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1112297770 M * Bertl well, what _is_ expected? 1112298127 M * maharaja througput of more than 2-10mbit/seconds :) 1112299207 J * DuckMaster ~Duck@dyn-83-157-141-89.ppp.tiscali.fr 1112299372 M * Tbery Bertl, How can I create new server with new packages? 1112299374 M * Tbery 204 1112299382 M * Tbery vserver name bult ?? 1112299391 M * Doener http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1112299620 Q * DuckKing Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112299666 M * maharaja can i copy a base vserver install with cp -a ? 1112299692 M * Bertl yes, but something like dump/restore or rsync should be better 1112299715 M * Bertl (nevertheless it should work with cp too) 1112299729 M * albeiro linus says dump is dumb ;] 1112299762 M * Bertl does he? 1112300028 M * Doener http://lwn.net/2001/0503/kernel.php3 1112300078 M * Doener albeiro: pretty old... did you mean that one? is it still valid for recent versions of dump/kernel? 1112300117 M * albeiro Bertl: yeah. he dislike it. 1112300167 M * albeiro Doener: duno if it is still working, i remember him saying that it is dumb and lets forget it 1112300527 M * Tbery what mean contex 42 1112300596 M * Bertl it's the secret test context for examples :) 1112300616 M * Tbery aha.. like mark?? 1112300619 M * Tbery number.. 1112300832 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112301072 Q * mhepp Quit: 1112301545 Q * Tbery Quit: Ukonèuji 1112301899 J * Provito ~Provito@82-35-133-113.cable.ubr02.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk 1112302039 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112302129 Q * wfamy Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112302823 Q * ensc|w oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * nox oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * maharaja oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * Beirdo oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * Loki|muh oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * bro oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * ndim oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * SiD3WiNDR oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * Jason357 oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * Snow-Man oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * Seraph oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * virtuoso oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * cemil oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * slapper oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * eyck oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * DaPhreak oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * tchan_ oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * sith oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * atsab oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * stupidawy oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * berni oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302823 Q * aba oxygen.oftc.net jupiter.oftc.net 1112302835 J * berni ~berni@svr01.mucip.net 1112302835 J * aba ~aba@sol.turmzimmer.net 1112302857 J * wfamy bill@lns-vlq-49-mar-82-251-39-169.adsl.proxad.net 1112302857 J * Maillequeule ~Michael_H@vol21-1-82-224-18-133.fbx.proxad.net 1112302857 J * maharaja maharaja@ipax.at 1112302857 J * Beirdo ~gjhurlbu@beirdo.usercloak.oftc.net 1112302857 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1112302857 J * bro ~vanity@lanparty.lv 1112302857 J * ndim hun@helena.bawue.de 1112302857 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1112302857 J * Jason357 ~m00@67.159.26.120 1112302857 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1112302857 J * Seraph kk@projects.verfaction.de 1112302857 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1112302857 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de 1112302857 J * slapper ~slapper@styx.xnull.de 1112302857 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1112302857 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@lms.rz.uni-greifswald.de 1112302857 J * tchan_ ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.client.comcast.net 1112302857 J * atsab ~as@lotes.vtu.lt 1112302857 J * sith sith@aaronp.com 1112302870 J * stupidawy foo@you.wish.you.were.pimp.olicio.us 1112302908 J * nox ~nox@83.133.126.31 1112302927 J * ensc|w ~ensc@62.153.82.27 1112303113 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1112303324 P * Provito Leaving 1112303366 J * keyser_soze ~keyser@host12.201-252-44.telecom.net.ar 1112303692 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112303801 Q * mhepp Quit: 1112304058 J * herka ~herka@81.185.38.32 1112304122 M * Bertl welcome herka! 1112304243 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112305365 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1112305458 Q * wfamy Quit: Leaving 1112305505 Q * jsambrook Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1112306108 J * brc_ bruce@201008069248.user.veloxzone.com.br 1112306131 M * Bertl welcome brc_! 1112306516 Q * brc_ Quit: No windows for this server 1112306522 J * alban alban@gar31-1-82-234-50-167.fbx.proxad.net 1112306607 M * maharaja bertl: http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg09188.html is not working 1112306619 M * maharaja i get no article when clicking on http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/free_issues/issue_04/xen/ 1112306729 M * maharaja didn't read the whole mail thou 1112306734 M * maharaja will do that later today 1112306735 M * maharaja n8 1112306742 M * Bertl night! 1112306983 Q * alban Quit: Leaving 1112307189 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112307276 M * Bertl welcome mhepp! 1112307425 Q * Maillequeule Quit: MUSTARD RULEZ ! 1112308457 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1112308992 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112309746 Q * no_maam Quit: Lost terminal 1112310257 Q * herka Quit: 1112311210 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1112311356 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1112311384 M * Snow-Man Was the leak in the 'vserver error code path' thing, like, potentially a big leak? 1112311588 M * Bertl no, it is an error path 1112311606 M * Bertl so it will just be taken when some fork/etc hits a memory limit 1112311827 M * Snow-Man hrmpf. 1112311840 M * Snow-Man That's what I figured, but 2.6.10+debian+vs1.9.4 seems to be leaking. 1112311854 M * Bertl well, debian ... 1112311929 M * mikegrb Snow-Man: <3 1112311945 M * mikegrb Snow-Man: have I told you how much my ssh server logs love you? 1112311969 M * Snow-Man mikegrb: *smirk. 1112311980 M * mikegrb :D 1112311987 M * Snow-Man Bertl: Doubt that was it, but I'm gonna be moving to 2.6.11.6+vs1.9.5 shortly anyway. 1112312003 M * Snow-Man Bertl: The Debian stuff was mostly pre-2.6.11 stuff anyway. 1112312003 M * mikegrb I don't have to go through pages and pages when logcheck emails me now! 1112312025 M * Bertl Snow-Man: please add the one fix from 1.9.6 1112312032 M * Snow-Man Bertl: hrm? 1112312036 M * Snow-Man Which fix would that be? 1112312048 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-1.9.6/delta-unhold-fix01.diff 1112312077 M * Snow-Man hmmm, I don't use the hardcpu stuff anyway, but ok. 1112312099 M * Bertl ah, private kernel, well, doesn't matter then ... 1112312112 M * Snow-Man yeesh, '//' is C++. :P 1112312138 M * Bertl not since C99 ;) 1112312144 M * Snow-Man bah. 1112312186 M * Snow-Man hmmm, syslog is /proc/kmsg stuff? 1112312220 M * Bertl but feel free to do s|//\(.*\)$|/* \1 */|g 1112312236 M * Bertl yep, virtual kernel log 1112312246 M * Snow-Man Cool, is it just empty in the vservers? 1112312331 M * Bertl for now, yes 1112312355 M * Snow-Man What would be sent to the vserver logs? 1112312373 M * Bertl i'm thinking of adding a syscall command which can log to the vserver's klogs 1112312389 M * Snow-Man hrmmm, ok.. 1112312391 M * Bertl you could the do 'vsyslog ....' 1112312407 M * Bertl what you send there is an userspace issue then ... 1112312423 A * Snow-Man shrugs. 1112312430 M * Snow-Man Can't think of a reason I'd use it, but sounds neat. 1112312484 A * Snow-Man grabs 2.6.11 1112312503 M * Snow-Man Is the 2.6.11.x stuff still the silly have-to-patch-each-one stuff? 1112312536 M * Doener nope, they're against 2.6.11 since .3 1112312545 M * Snow-Man ah, good. 1112312679 M * Bertl Doener: so what are your plans for tonight? 1112312772 M * Doener going to bed ;) pretty tired... my day/night rhythm is totally messed up atm... up from 10pm to 8am, sleeping from 8am to 4pm and going to bed again now... 1112312838 M * Bertl hmm .. what is messed up with that? 1112312876 M * Bertl anyway, have agood night then! 1112312910 M * Doener i prefer longer continous times of being awake/asleep ;) like 18:10 or something like that 1112312968 M * Doener night folks! 1112312971 N * Doener Doener_zZz