1112055095 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1112057297 Q * Beave Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112057867 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de 1112057870 M * cemil hi there :) 1112057890 M * cemil what is the best way to move an vserver from one box to another one? 1112057892 M * cemil just tar and scp? 1112059600 J * Beave ~beave@vistech.org 1112073009 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-133-136.adsl.proxad.net 1112075239 J * grecea ~grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1112076528 Q * kevinp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112076649 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net 1112077675 Q * grecea Remote host closed the connection 1112077749 J * grecea ~grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1112078279 M * eyck I recommend lzop for task like that. 1112078755 M * eyck Bertl_zZ: go ahead. Anything interesting in that patch? 1112081617 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1112082456 J * prae ~prae@134.106-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com 1112082843 M * prae yargalala :) 1112082909 Q * Beave Quit: 9) nanoseconds 1112083418 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112083689 M * cemil re 1112085160 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.68 1112085323 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1112085346 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1112085808 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-3-115.dclient.hispeed.ch 1112086592 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112086885 J * albeiro albeiro@linux.gentoo.pl 1112088015 Q * DaPhreak Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112089757 J * Pazzo ~thomas@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1112090779 M * Pazzo Hi all! Have you ever seen interfaces like nr0, nr1, nrX... and rose0, rose1, roseX... on a linux-vserver host? 1112090784 M * Pazzo google tells me they have to do something with "amateur radio support"... I don't like interfaces I haven't configured by myself! 1112090812 M * Pazzo (system is debian sarge) 1112090884 M * Pazzo btw: any idea how to remove sit0 without removing the whole ipv6 stuff from the kernel? 1112090924 J * DaPhreak ~phreak@lms.rz.uni-greifswald.de 1112091493 M * SiD3WiNDR I dont think so, but why do you want it gone? :) 1112095516 Q * erwan_taf Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112095527 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.68 1112095721 M * Pazzo (back) SiD3WiNDR: I don't like interfaces showing up unless they have been configured by myself. I can live with sit0 - but I really don't like rose[0-9] and nr[0-3] 1112095822 M * eyck Pazzo: where did those come from? which kernel? anything in your /etc/network/interfaces? 1112096113 Q * SiD3WiNDR Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112096444 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1112096446 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1112096491 M * Pazzo eyck: nothing in /etc/network/interfaces - kernel 2.6.9-vs1.9.3 - I found the solution, there are some additional modules loaded: 1112096532 M * Pazzo x25, appletalk, ipx, rose, netrom, ax25, af_packet and loop 1112096541 M * Pazzo hmm... no idea why they are there... 1112096568 M * Pazzo does linux load this modules if it recieves such packets on the wire? 1112096572 M * Pazzo (ipx...) 1112096646 M * Pazzo NET: Registered protocol family 3 1112096656 M * Pazzo kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 6 1112096664 M * Pazzo kernel: G4KLX NET/ROM for Linux. Version 0.7 for AX25.037 Linux 2.4 1112096670 M * Pazzo kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 11 1112096679 M * Pazzo kernel: F6FBB/G4KLX ROSE for Linux. Version 0.62 for AX25.037 Linux 2.4 1112096684 M * Pazzo kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 4 1112096690 M * Pazzo kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 5 1112096696 M * Pazzo kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 9 1112096701 M * Pazzo kernel: X.25 for Linux. Version 0.2 for Linux 2.1.15 1112096702 M * eyck Pazzo: nope, I haven't seen anything like this before. But I don't trust 2.6.x yet, so there 1112096801 M * Pazzo ??? WTH could have triggered this??? happened on one of my hosts and also at one of my customers (host not managed by me, I just give them assistance when they are in trouble and learned them how to use vservers ;o) 1112096814 J * cereal ~cereal@stargate-galaxy.net 1112096866 M * Pazzo eyck: do you know someone really trusting 2.6.x? but I also don't really like linux-vserver for kernel 2.4... 1112096998 M * cereal hi all 1112097003 M * Pazzo hi cereal 1112097354 M * Doener Pazzo: /etc/modutils/aliases ... see comment above first block of aliases ;) 1112097361 M * Pazzo eyck: It's exactly like this: http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/suse/security/2004/12/msg00091.html - but I've found no explanation :-( Will kernel modules be autamagically loaded for special packets found on the wire??? I hope this isn't true - is it??? 1112097364 M * Pazzo Hi Doener! 1112097392 M * Pazzo thnx doener!!!! 1112097413 M * Pazzo but who was loading them???? 1112097428 M * Doener no idea... 1112097454 M * Pazzo I really like all automagical things :-( 1112097482 M * Pazzo may I switch off all but IPv4 or is "Unix" needed?? 1112097516 M * Doener unix is most probably needed ;) 1112097552 M * Doener unix domain sockets, f.e. /dev/log ;) 1112097556 M * Pazzo ups 1112097565 M * Pazzo maybe I'll need it one day ;-) 1112097606 M * Doener mysql also uses uds, as well as a lot of other programs that need local communication ;) 1112097688 M * Pazzo Doener: thanks, but that was a joke - I know what socket are used for ;-) 1112097718 M * Doener heh ;) 1112097743 M * Doener gone again... grandpa has a birthday... later! 1112097746 N * Doener Doener|gone 1112097854 M * Pazzo have a nice party doener! 1112097861 M * Pazzo and thnx! 1112097948 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112098438 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112098731 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112098862 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112099137 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112099167 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112099873 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112099981 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112100283 Q * jsambrook Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1112100313 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112100332 M * nox the gain of gaim *g* 1112100405 M * cereal :) 1112100733 Q * bro Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112100842 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112100870 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112100933 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112100983 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112101025 M * prae hi ! 1112101070 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112101101 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112101106 M * prae I lost url where are the latest vserver-util :-\ 1112101123 M * nox http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/ 1112101137 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112101168 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112101187 M * nox jsambrook could we help you ? 1112101189 Q * jsambrook Quit: 1112101196 M * prae thx nox ;) 1112101215 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112101230 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112101234 M * nox first time i want so here to have op 1112101264 M * DaPhreak morning Mr. prae ;P 1112101300 M * eyck how's X doing? 1112101328 M * nox eyck it works great 1112101353 M * nox with sound and usb pretty happy 1112101353 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112101372 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection 1112101387 M * eyck goodie, could you please post some guide of what was need to accomplish that? or maybe point to me already existing doc? 1112101400 M * prae DaPhreak: Hi mister :) 1112101522 M * eyck nox: this is on 2.6.x and vserver NG ? 1112101535 M * prae DaPhreak: you have worked for the latest 2.6.11.* ? (grsec+vs stuff) 1112101551 M * nox 2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5 1112101565 M * nox +bme but no ng net 1112101699 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112101744 M * nox eyck: http://linux-vserver.org/Linux-Vserver+FAQ <--- works great just had a typo 1112101873 J * micah_ micah@micha.hampshire.edu 1112101928 P * jsambrook 1112102065 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112102155 Q * jsambrook Quit: 1112102291 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112102878 M * eyck nox:tnx. 1112104269 M * prae hmmm, for vserver syscall, what's the best choice ?, in my first server, I use glibc; another server I use default 1112104536 A * erwan_taf jump in prae's arm 1112104600 A * prae catch erwan 1112104627 M * DaPhreak well prae, Bertl told me some days ago (or was it weeks?) that glibc might be broken .. it is advised to use the dietlibc 1112104641 A * DaPhreak uses also glibc :P 1112104658 M * prae yes, I use dietlibc in latest server :p 1112104662 M * eyck hmm, dietlibc IS broken 1112104667 M * eyck it MIGHT work 1112104691 M * prae hmm ? 1112104696 M * prae dietlibc is broken ?! 1112104697 M * Hollow dietlibc has probs with hardened too 1112104702 M * prae so 1112104707 M * prae using glibc or dietlibc ? 1112104716 M * prae :\ 1112104724 M * Hollow i cannot compile util-vserver against dietlibc using a hardened toolchain 1112104752 M * Hollow it works with glibc iirc but the configure script moans about glibc 1112104769 M * Hollow or am i wrong? 1112104786 A * Hollow goes looking for that bug.. 1112104847 M * Hollow hm..: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82483 1112104859 M * Hollow it seems i have fixed it *g* 1112104881 M * Hollow DaPhreak: does util-vserver build on hardened on your machine? 1112104896 M * prae # diet -v 1112104896 M * prae diet version dietlibc-0.23 1112104906 M * prae (in debian system) 1112104908 M * aba Hollow: dietlibc is buggy in more than one aspect. 1112104980 M * Hollow aba: does util-vserver work with glibc then? 1112104993 M * eyck but it's small, so it should be easier to fix then glibc 1112104994 M * prae so ... using or not using dietlibc ? ;-)) 1112104997 M * aba Hollow: fixing dietlibc should be the way to go 1112105011 M * Hollow i would, but i'm not a c coder 1112105020 M * prae for currently version of course 1112105032 M * aba prae: I know that there's currently some effort to fix the dietlibc in Debian so that it works together with util-vserver on all archs 1112105041 M * DaPhreak Hollow: you're right .. the utils don't build against dietlibc with hardened toolchain 1112105056 M * eyck what is 'hardened toolchain' ? 1112105063 M * Hollow hardened.gentoo.org 1112105068 M * DaPhreak that's why i'm using glibc .. (to simply get some working util-vserver) 1112105072 M * eyck this has something to do with jaws on chainsaw? 1112105079 M * eyck titanium or sth? 1112105091 M * Hollow has sth to do with SSP/PIE/PaX/GrSec/SELinux 1112105133 M * eyck SELinux hates GRSec and vserver... 1112105151 M * Hollow util-vserver hates SSP/PIE 1112105162 M * eyck so, all hail PaX :) 1112105165 M * Hollow :P 1112105208 M * DaPhreak Hollow: i gonna try the dietlibc / util-vserver thingy in the evening .. 1112105210 M * Hollow the current vserver-sources include grsec patches, though (as you said) they seem to bite each other 1112105248 M * Hollow (i.e. gentoo, forgot that this i not gentoo spexific in here *g*) 1112105276 M * eyck grsec + vserver works from time to time, the only problem is that noone seems to want to maintain that 1112105309 M * Hollow at least DaPhreak and me maintain patches atm 1112105319 M * Hollow if they are working like they should... dunno :) 1112105323 M * eyck it's just that from time to time some odd folks show up, proudly present their vserver+grsec patch, and then disappear when people start report that things broke... 1112105328 M * DaPhreak well i try to maintain it currently .. ;P that reminds me to put a new grsec-vserver.patch on my mirror :) 1112105334 M * eyck reporting 1112105365 M * Hollow and i'd like to keep them in, but it's hard to fix issues being not a C coder at all 1112106064 M * Hollow you can get the current grsec patch from http://home.xnull.de/work/gentoo/vserver/patches/1.9.5/9900-grsecurity-2.1.4-2005261255.patch 1112106238 A * prae remove dietlibc-dev 1112106241 M * prae groumblblbl 1112106776 J * DuckKing ~Duck@dyn-83-157-201-127.ppp.tiscali.fr 1112107182 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112107517 M * cemil ah, vserver + grsecurity works? 1112107551 M * cemil cool 1112107554 J * bro ~vanity@lanparty.lv 1112107645 M * Hollow cemil: the patches work and it compiles, but if it really works i dunno 1112107681 M * cemil did you code it? 1112107761 M * cemil how did you apply it? 1112107770 M * cemil first vserver, then the "combo-patch"? 1112107778 M * cemil or first grsec? or just the combo? 1112107798 M * DaPhreak cemil: i guess not :) Bertl did the vserver part brad spengler did the grsec part :P its first vserver then grsec :) 1112107908 M * cemil http://www.sandino.net/parches/vserver/ 1112107962 M * DaPhreak cemil: its for 2.6 :) 1112107967 M * cemil wh000 1112107970 M * cemil i didnt see :) 1112107983 M * cemil i want 2.4.29 + grsec + vserver 1112107989 M * cemil i will test the patches on sandino.net 1112107996 M * DaPhreak heh, have fun :P 1112108002 M * prae ensc_wrappers/wrappers-fcntl.hc: At top level: 1112108002 M * prae ensc_wrappers/wrappers-fcntl.hc:57: warning: ANSI does not permit the keyword `inline' 1112108002 M * prae In file included from ensc_wrappers/wrappers.h:79, 1112108002 M * prae from src/vserver-info.c:44: 1112108002 M * cemil did you ever test it? :) 1112108005 M * prae :| 1112108013 M * prae what's the ~#{~# 1112108015 M * prae :-\ 1112108031 M * DaPhreak haha, prae are you trying to compile with glibc ? 1112108048 M * DaPhreak cemil: which one ?! the 2.4 ones ? 1112108050 M * prae yes 1112108054 M * prae I remove dietlibc 1112108061 M * prae and recompile with glibc 1112108161 M * DaPhreak are you compiling from hand or with debian (whatever) tools ? 1112108196 M * prae all is from debian packages, except kernel and util-vserver 1112108668 N * Vudumen_ Vudumen 1112109038 M * cemil work:~# uname -a 1112109038 M * cemil Linux work 2.4.29-grsec-vs1.2.10-KB2 #1 SMP Tue Mar 29 16:53:09 CEST 2005 i686 unknown 1112109041 M * cemil :-) 1112109048 M * Hollow heh 1112109063 M * Hollow bene@zeus [0] vserver-sources $ uname -a 1112109064 M * Hollow Linux zeus 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5-grsec 1112109066 M * cemil it rocks... same work as without 1112109069 M * cemil and more secure 1112109078 M * cemil i like things, that are more secure with same work :) 1112109389 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1112109400 M * Bertl evening folks! 1112109405 M * Pazzo hi bertl! 1112109445 M * cemil hi there :) 1112109450 M * DaPhreak morning Bertl ;) 1112109452 M * rs hey bertl! 1112109464 M * Bertl hey Pazzo! cemil! rs! 1112109658 M * cemil damn... today my mainboard fucked up :( 1112109662 M * cemil asus p4c800e-deluxe 1112109675 M * cemil with a p4-ht and dual channel ram :( 1112109686 M * cemil now i have to work with a p3 700 and 256mb ram :/ 1112109695 M * cemil a fucking siemens-workstation 1112109712 M * cemil compiling makes _no_fun_anymore_ 1112109928 M * Bertl guess I have to get soemthing to eat first ... will help me with the thinking ... ;) 1112109948 M * Bertl off for dinner ... back in a few ... 1112109967 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1112110241 N * DaPhreak DaPhreak|home 1112110627 M * prae ~#{~#{ 1112110628 M * prae gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I ./lib -I ./ensc_wrappers -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -g -O2 -Wall -pedantic -W -c -o ensc_vector/libensc_vector_glibc_a-vector-clear.o `test -f 'ensc_vector/vector-clear.c' || echo './'`ensc_vector/vector-clear.c 1112110628 M * prae In file included from ensc_vector/vector.h:60, 1112110628 M * prae from ensc_vector/vector-clear.c:23: 1112110628 M * prae ensc_vector/vector.hc:19: warning: ANSI does not permit the keyword `inline' 1112110632 M * prae what's ~#{~# 1112110673 M * prae I use this options : ./configure --with-kerneldir=/usr/src/linux-2.6.11/ --with-vrootdir=/vservers/ --prefix=/usr/local/util-vserver-0.30.205 --sysconfdir=/etc/ --localstatedir=/var/run/vservers --disable-dietlibc 1112110936 M * prae I try to compile with gcc 2.95 1112110966 M * prae maybe gcc 3.0 provide this errors 1112110966 M * Hollow maybe kick -pedantic? 1112110997 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1112111026 M * Bertl prae: you need a C99 compiler ... 1112111045 M * prae ah ? 1112111065 M * Bertl configure script will warn about that ... 1112111083 M * prae hmmm, C99 Compiler ? 1112111107 M * Bertl typically 3.3.x or 3.4 should work ... 1112111137 M * prae checking whether g++ is a C++ compiler... no 1112111138 M * prae configure: WARNING: *** some programs will not be built because a C++ compiler is lacking 1112111138 M * prae checking whether gcc is a C99 compiler... no 1112111138 M * prae configure: WARNING: *** some programs will not be built because a C99 compiler is lacking 1112111139 M * prae :-\ 1112111158 M * prae and, with gcc 2.95 ? 1112111189 M * Bertl too old .. use stable tools, 2.95 fails to compile the 2.6 kernel too ... 1112111227 J * tad ~truex@static-151-204-232-50.bos.east.verizon.net 1112111239 M * Bertl evening tad! 1112111253 M * Bertl prae: is this an older distro? 1112111290 M * Hollow evening Bertl 1112111304 M * Bertl evening Hollow! 1112111318 M * tad Hi Folks 1112111331 M * prae Bertl: debian stable 1112111639 M * cemil I: Extracting mbr... 1112111639 M * cemil mount: permission denied 1112111639 M * cemil W: Failure trying to run: chroot /vservers/ns1nbg mount -t proc proc /proc 1112111639 M * cemil umount: /vservers/ns1nbg/dev/pts: not found 1112111641 M * cemil strange 1112111645 M * cemil with debian-new-vserver.sh 1112111660 M * cemil and 2.4.29-grsec-vs1.2.10-KB2 1112111712 M * prae Bertl: with gcc 3.0, it doesn't works ? 1112111730 M * Bertl cemil: well, no idea what debian-new-vserver.sh is, you ahve to ask the 'maintainer' 1112111748 M * cemil Bertl: http://linux-vserver.org/DebianVserverVirtualHosting 1112111758 M * Bertl prae: gcc 3.0 is broken, don't use it for anything ... 1112111781 M * prae :-\ 1112111805 M * prae I upgrade debian stable to debian testing :-\ 1112111811 M * prae i have no choice :( 1112111819 M * cemil downgrade :) 1112111825 M * cemil or upgrade to unstable 1112111839 M * aba sarge is pretty ok these days 1112111849 M * prae these days ? 1112111867 M * aba prae: almost frozen now, and hopefully releasing soon ... 1112111876 M * prae how many times ? 1112111882 M * cemil oraaah 1112111883 M * cemil damn 1112111886 M * cemil grsec: From 213.23.34.152: denied mount of proc as /vservers/ns1nbg/proc from chroot by /vservers/ns1nbg/bin/mount[mount:27590] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /vservers/ns1nbg/bin/bash[bash:4777] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 1112111897 M * cemil damn fucking security-models :) 1112111922 M * prae s/how many times/how long ?/ 1112111923 M * aba prae: well, this time, it's real. 1112111983 Q * slapper Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112112001 M * cemil do i need the folowing for vserver-linux: pivot_root()? 1112112012 A * prae modify sources.list :%s/stable/testing/ 1112112019 M * prae "apt-get update" 1112112023 M * aba prae: write: sarge, not testing. 1112112030 M * prae sarge ? 1112112033 M * prae sarge != testing ? 1112112043 M * aba otherwise, you will get much fun as soon as etch starts. 1112112048 M * prae I'm completly lost with debian versioning name 1112112052 M * aba prae: but that will change after release. 1112112078 M * Bertl prae: why, there is outdated, broken, unstable ... (please ignore me ;) 1112112112 M * prae :p 1112112121 M * aba Bertl: you're not deep enough inside to really know the names :P 1112112128 M * prae aba: so ... sarge is ? pre-stable ? oldest-testing ? 1112112139 M * Hollow use gentoo 1112112140 M * Hollow :) 1112112141 M * aba prae: sarge=testing. 1112112151 M * prae ok 1112112163 M * aba prae: but after release, sarge will be stable, and if you put testing into sources.list, than it'll upgrade to etch. 1112112173 M * prae ok 1112112178 M * aba (so, use the code names, than you can decide yourself when to upgrade) 1112112189 A * prae modify sources.list :%s/stable/sarge/ 1112112192 M * prae "apt-get update" 1112112196 M * prae "apt-get dist-upgrade" 1112112231 M * aba and check in time what changes are announced. And if you don't have an i386/powerpc computer, you should read some stuff before 1112112236 M * prae *I HAVEN'T FEAR !! !!!* 1112112237 M * prae :d 1112112238 M * prae :) 1112112239 M * aba (and release notes are never a bad idea) 1112112282 A * prae pray 1112112613 A * prae love to update production server into testing debian :-\ 1112112634 A * prae burn a voodoo doll 1112112794 M * eyck join debian security team. 1112112837 M * eyck besides, everyone knows voodoo dolls don't work. 1112112845 M * Bertl no? 1112112862 M * cemil eyck: dont tell bullshit 1112112864 M * eyck only burning black cocks and sacrificing virgins 1112112866 M * cemil they work... 1112112869 M * eyck nope. 1112112876 M * cemil you need just a voodoo doll v2.0 1112112877 M * eyck man, you people are noobs 1112112889 M * eyck voodoo dolls just don't work. 1112112898 M * eyck they just got good marketing. 1112112899 A * Bertl bertl is now fetching his eyck doll ... 1112112925 M * Bertl now where was my long needle ... *G* 1112112927 M * cemil http://www.picotux.com/ 1112112929 M * cemil THATS cool 1112112932 M * cemil thats really really cool 1112112993 M * prae voodoo doll works only with gcc 3.5 !!! 1112112994 M * prae =) 1112113053 Q * tad Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10 1112113065 A * prae dance with god's song in background 1112113098 M * eyck dancing might help. 1112113104 M * prae always ! 1112113104 M * prae :) 1112113169 M * eyck there is no more superstitious group then admins. 1112113188 M * aba eyck: there is. 1112113191 M * eyck who? 1112113193 A * Beirdo does a clog dance on a user's head 1112113200 M * aba eyck: like release managers. 1112113211 M * eyck they don't know shit. 1112113221 A * aba kicks eyck. Extra hard. 1112113234 M * eyck go play with your voodoo doll 1112113263 M * aba eyck: no, yo don't get your private doll. 1112113266 M * Beirdo don't forget to sacrifice the chickens 1112113270 M * eyck release managers are just sad people, they don't know anything practical about this stuff. 1112113278 M * eyck sacrificing chickens works. 1112113283 A * prae invoke god powa 1112113285 M * eyck oh wait, 1112113288 M * prae *ruuuummmmmm* 1112113289 M * aba eyck: some know. 1112113296 M * eyck you're talking about routers or generally servers? 1112113303 M * aba but I'll better disappear now ... 1112113306 M * eyck because some of this stuff works only for cisco 1112113340 A * prae continue the dance 1112113429 A * prae dance like god at underworld into DBZ =)) 1112113437 M * eyck I wonder if traditional cisco sacrifices work for Juniper machines... 1112113446 M * eyck anyone had any experience with that? 1112113504 M * prae *tchouk* 1112113718 M * Bertl eyck: btw, wasn't you working on some fancy script to help me? 1112113850 M * eyck hmm 1112113857 M * prae util-vserver-0.30.205# gcc -v 1112113859 M * eyck for parsing some logs? 1112113863 M * prae gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8) 1112113864 M * prae \o/ 1112113866 M * prae *wonderful* 1112113897 M * Bertl congrats! 1112113951 M * prae so... I continue my dance :) 1112114036 M * prae *oh!* 1112114042 M * prae *compilation is done and ok* 1112114050 M * prae *my god is with me !!!* 1112114051 M * prae :) 1112114084 M * eyck told ya, dancing works... 1112114117 A * prae put away voodoo doll 1112114133 M * prae eyck: of course, god's dance always works ! 1112114166 M * eyck damn. two HDs failed today, 1112114212 M * prae oh! 1112114246 M * Bertl eyck: yep, for parsing the debug info the kernel compile does 1112114297 M * prae eyck: hmm! you don't have danced this morning !!! 1112114302 M * prae eyck: :P 1112114384 M * eyck prea: good point, I overslept. 1112114432 M * eyck Bertl: yeah, I recall, I got too busy with my other job... I'm trying to quit maybe then I'll be able to look at it. 1112114491 M * eyck btw, I'm looking for a smart and cheap coder experienced with small platforms to take over after me;) 1112114526 J * slapper ~slapper@styx.xnull.de 1112114627 M * eyck there are two other annoying time-sinks - women and sleep. If anyone's got any idea on how to handle those I'd be gratefull... 1112114695 M * Bertl well, can't help you with the first one, but the second is an absolutely inadequate substitute for caffeine anyway ... 1112114708 M * Bertl (so go for the real thing ;) 1112114748 M * sannes eyck : first one is simple; cloning! 1112114749 M * eyck I don't drink caffeine. 1112114758 M * eyck at all. 1112114764 M * prae so! misters! have a good evening and thx for your helps :) 1112114773 M * prae see'ya ! 1112114779 M * eyck may the thor be with ya 1112114785 M * prae ;) 1112114785 M * eyck go in peace. 1112114788 M * eyck or sth. 1112114802 M * Bertl cya prae! 1112114814 M * eyck sannes: I don't see how multiplying women would help, 1112114827 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting 1112114844 M * eyck sannes: available time shrinks geometrically with the additional women one's supposed to handle 1112114890 M * eyck hmm, this channel isn't logged, right?... 1112114904 M * sannes eyck : was thinking the other way around.. and yes it is logged.... :> 1112114912 M * eyck damn. 1112114925 Q * eyck Quit: leaving 1112114948 M * Hollow lol 1112114956 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1112114985 A * sannes wanted to blackmail eyck with "or else I'll write the URL in big ASCII art letters" ... 1112115118 M * Bertl okay, folks, back later .. cya 1112115124 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1112115134 M * sannes bye 1112117169 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1112117208 P * jsambrook 1112117368 J * ruuth VooDoo@topas.informatik.uni-ulm.de 1112117728 Q * nox Quit: leaving 1112117874 J * nox ~nox@83.133.126.31 1112119063 Q * nox Quit: Changing server 1112121874 J * nox ~nox@83.133.126.31 1112121986 M * ola Hello 1112122009 M * nox hola *g* 1112122056 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-133-136.adsl.proxad.net 1112122404 M * ola Hello again. Was reading some mail. 1112122417 M * ola :) 1112122481 M * ola Is it documented anywhere what kernel arches that have registered syscall numbers for util-vserver? 1112122598 M * ola I have heard that arm and hppa do not have such syscalls, but I would like to know where to find that information. 1112122705 M * ola Hmm have to go. See you guys later. :) 1112123056 M * eyck bye bye 1112123167 M * aba ola: all except parisc currently - and the debian parisc kernel maintainer is about to get one registered. 1112124369 M * aba Hm, how can I be sure that a partition is not mounted anymore in any context? Look in context 1? 1112125202 M * maharaja can any1 help me with kernel debugging? 1112125210 M * maharaja trying to merge grsec + vs195 :) 1112125219 M * maharaja LD vmlinux 1112125219 M * maharaja grsecurity/built-in.o(.text+0x9f34): In function `gr_handle_shmat': 1112125219 M * maharaja : undefined reference to `vx_rmap_pid' 1112125219 M * maharaja grsecurity/built-in.o(.text+0x9fc4): In function `gr_handle_shmat': 1112125219 M * maharaja : undefined reference to `vx_rmap_pid' 1112125221 M * maharaja make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 1112125266 M * maharaja brb 1112125267 M * maharaja *reboot* 1112125542 Q * Snow-Man Remote host closed the connection 1112125794 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1112126154 M * ola aba: Great then I'll remove the arm do_not_build thing. 1112126172 M * aba ola: there is a list - but, please re-check it. 1112126181 M * aba ola: (and get your P-a-s entry :) 1112126185 M * ola Where can I find that list? 1112126259 M * aba bugs.debian.org/302000 contains a description 1112126388 M * ola ?? 1112126416 M * ola This description just tell what P-a-s is. What I want to know is on what arches there is no syscall numbers. :) 1112126480 M * maharaja re 1112126486 M * aba ola: yes. But make sure util-vserver is excluded on the other archs. 1112126490 M * maharaja retrying that grsec merge stuff 1112126502 M * maharaja did any1 of you ever merge grsec with vs? 1112126510 M * maharaja (by hand - not via a prepared patch) 1112126521 M * maharaja i would like to know what things can be done wrong 1112126523 M * ola aba: Yes. 1112126531 M * aba ola: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/SYSCALL/assigned-2.6.11.3.info - but I can remember to have read that arm has now also a syscall 1112126537 J * aA ~eeeee@120.228.dial-up.xter.net 1112126549 M * ola aba: Thanks a lot 1112126550 M * ola ! 1112126560 M * aA Hi evrybody 1112126562 M * aba ola: but better ask Bertl_oO for to be sure. 1112126594 M * aA a have 2 questions about linux-vserver can you help me? 1112126637 M * aA hello??? 1112126656 M * ola aba: I'll ask him. But that list is better than nothing. 1112126659 M * aba aA: ask your question, perhaps somebody has an answer. 1112126673 M * aba aA: but I don't know if I can answer your unasked question or not. 1112126676 M * aA 10x 1112126697 M * aA :) 1112126728 M * aA i hav some problems vith per context disk limit 1112126769 M * aA where can i get the some docs about it?? 1112126817 M * aA abs: where can i get the some docs about it?? 1112126983 M * aA [aba]where can i get the some docs about it?? 1112127272 M * aA hello? 1112127278 N * Doener|gone Doener 1112127287 M * Doener evening folks! 1112127292 M * maharaja hi doener 1112127301 M * maharaja doener: did you ever merge grsec + vserver? 1112127308 M * Doener no 1112127320 M * maharaja ah - resolved the link error 1112127329 M * maharaja what stuff should i test to verify that it works? 1112127339 M * maharaja my manual merge :) 1112127359 M * Doener Bertl's testme.sh would be a good start for the vserver part... 1112127368 M * maharaja k 1112127383 M * maharaja right now i'm making a .deb file out of it 1112127395 M * maharaja and i think ill post the patch to the mailinglist 1112127403 M * maharaja maybe folks will have a peak on it 1112127407 M * maharaja or try it for themselfs 1112127618 M * aA anybody can help me? 1112127702 N * micah_ micah 1112127898 M * maharaja aa: never used disk limits 1112127988 M * aA [maharaja]sory but I wasn't understand you??? What you meen??? 1112128064 M * maharaja aa: i never used disk limits - so i cannot help you 1112128149 M * aA [maharaja]and how you solve the disk usege problems? 1112128176 M * maharaja which disk usage problem? :) 1112128304 M * aA sory for my english!!!:) haw can you controlling the hard disk space using in Vservers??? 1112128314 M * aA [maharaja]sory for my english!!!:) haw can you controlling the hard disk space using in Vservers??? 1112128318 M * maharaja aa: by only using it for myself :) 1112128330 M * maharaja i've only got one (trusted) user on my box 1112128338 M * maharaja i use vservers to logically seperate services 1112128350 M * maharaja and i know where diskspace is "wasted" 1112128357 M * Doener aA: once is enough, message- and exclamation/question-mark-wise ;) 1112128360 M * maharaja so thats how i manage my diskspace 1112128383 M * Doener simplest way to limit vserver disk space is probably using lvm and giving each vserver an own lv 1112128385 M * maharaja mhm - is there anything special i have to do to link util-vserver against glibc? 1112128401 M * Doener --disable-dietlibc IIRC 1112128411 M * Doener or just don't have dietlibc installed ;) 1112128415 M * maharaja k 1112128425 M * maharaja well - ill try the dietglibc stuff 1112128486 M * maharaja i only need the dev files if i want to link it agains dietlibc/glibc - right? 1112128499 M * maharaja not the libs themselves 1112128501 M * Doener yep, the builds are static 1112128504 M * aA [Doener]10x, what you think about loop device??? 1112128515 M * Doener aA: slooow ;) 1112128533 M * aA [Doener]lvm is not slow? 1112128567 M * Doener lvm overhead should be neglible AFAIK 1112128614 M * DaCa you guys see something else than brackets and spaces from aA ? 1112128615 M * aA [Doener]sorry i dont understand 1112128672 M * maharaja yes 1112128685 M * maharaja or what do you mean :) 1112128699 M * maharaja i see that aA uses some fancy script for auto complete or so 1112128706 M * Doener aA: lvm shouldn't be significantly slower than 'real' partitions 1112128728 M * DaCa oic, he's emitting his text in black, and my background is also black 1112128729 M * maharaja aA: i'm using lvm and the speed is more than enough 1112128740 M * maharaja mine is white :) 1112128766 M * maharaja you should add some raw command stuff to your client, that white/black get reverted 1112128780 M * Doener DaCa: no color-stripping? in some (kiddy-)channels that can lead to serious eye-damage 1112128784 M * Doener ;) 1112128803 M * maharaja mhm 1112128811 M * maharaja how do i make install the util-vserver package 1112128818 M * aA now it is not black:) 1112128821 M * maharaja into /tmp/ 1112128825 M * maharaja so i can tar them up? 1112128843 M * aA dsfg 1112128846 M * Doener --prefix=/tmp ? ask "configure --help" ;) 1112128859 M * maharaja doener: well - i do not want util-vserver to take everything from there :) 1112128867 M * DaCa Doener: I guess I don't visit such channels :) 1112128872 M * maharaja on the production system, it should reside in /usr/local 1112128882 M * maharaja but on the compile machine, i want it to install into /tmp/ 1112128891 M * maharaja /tmp/usr/local 1112128895 M * maharaja so i can tar czf 1112128923 M * maharaja mhm 1112128923 M * aA [Doener]what do think about per context disk quota??? 1112128945 M * Doener hmm ... mount -o bind /tmp /usr/local ? of course only if nothing essential is below /usr/local 1112128981 M * Doener aA: never used per context disk limits... 1112128986 M * maharaja doener: ah, thnx! 1112129018 M * aA [Doener]but why?? there are a problems? 1112129024 M * Doener maharaja: there are probably better ways, but i don't know these ;) 1112129043 M * maharaja well - that ones should work for me 1112129045 M * Doener aA: i simply don't need it... 1112129061 M * maharaja aA: what do you want to do? 1112129080 M * maharaja and don't tell me "use disklimits" :) 1112129091 M * maharaja do you want to build a vserver box with 1000000 vservers on it? 1112129106 M * maharaja because i think that this lvm solution will fit 1112129111 M * maharaja if its < 10vserver 1112129113 M * maharaja or even more 1112129122 M * maharaja and lvm offers a lot of advantages (imho) 1112129146 A * DaCa also uses the lvm, aamof he uses lvm on all his systems 1112129160 M * DaCa s/lvm,/lvm solution/ 1112129188 M * aA [maharaja]i have VDS (it now in testing mod)!!! 1112129228 M * maharaja don't know about vds 1112129242 M * maharaja but if its not doing some strange stuff 1112129249 M * cemil that grsec-vls-patch works - really, really well : 1112129250 M * cemil :) 1112129256 M * maharaja cemil: which 1112129264 M * aA [maharaja]Virtual Dedicated Server 1112129280 M * maharaja aA: yes - it is a product, right? 1112129303 M * aA [maharaja]no it's technology. linux-Vserver is Virtual Dedicated Server !!! 1112129323 M * maharaja mhm - i do not understand 1112129390 M * maharaja cemil: tell me which patch/version/... :) 1112129442 M * cemil http://www.sandino.net/parches/vserver/ 1112129454 M * cemil but, its for 2.4.x 1112129462 M * maharaja i c 1112129469 M * cemil but it works well and stable 1112129472 M * maharaja well - working on my 2.6.9-grsec-vs195 1112129521 M * aA [maharaja]FreeVPS, Jail, UML,LInux-VServer etc... are software for hosting!!! When you making linux-vserver you hosting some virtual servers!!! This technology is VDS, ok? 1112129538 M * maharaja ok 1112129548 M * DaCa cemil: the grepmaster patch is more recent (at least it was still so yesterday) 1112129558 M * DaCa 2.1.3 1112129564 M * maharaja aA: i don't get your point why you're telling me that :) 1112129574 M * maharaja i asked you waht you wanted to do that lvm does not solve 1112129591 M * cemil grepmaster? 1112129601 M * aA [maharaja]:))))) you ask me what is a VDS!! 1112129602 M * maharaja and you told me that you use vds (i thought that was some product like freevps) 1112129621 M * maharaja anyways, what do you want to do that lvm is not able to solve? 1112129631 M * aA ok:) 1112129705 M * DaCa cemil: I don't have the url at hand and being on gprs am not going to look for it, you can find it on the wiki (tools and patches) 1112129777 M * aA i want to controling the disk using by LInux-Vserver users??? I want get hightest speed ??? hoew can i do it??? 1112129797 M * aA [maharaja]i want to controling the disk using by LInux-Vserver users??? I want get hightest speed ??? hoew can i do it??? 1112129865 M * maharaja aA: how much i/o have you got? 1112129881 M * aA [maharaja]which i/o? 1112129894 M * maharaja aA: is this a fileserver or database server where you've got a lot of disk usage? 1112129899 M * maharaja i/o = input/output 1112129966 M * aA [maharaja]I know what it meen(i/o):))) It is a hosting company , and i dont know :) 1112129993 A * Doener .oO( hu? ) 1112130006 M * aA [maharaja]We hosting, mail, web,......... 1112130047 M * maharaja than (imho) lvm is the easiest and most flexible way to go 1112130058 M * maharaja aA: ever worked with lvm? 1112130095 M * aA [maharaja]no i do not!!! 1112130186 M * aA [maharaja]but if i du it with out lvm, if i it with per context disk limit it do not be quicker??? 1112130219 M * aA [maharaja]i want get a maximum result:) 1112130219 M * maharaja yes, i think it would be quicker 1112130220 M * eyck is aA saying anything? I see only blue brackets 1112130230 M * maharaja eyck: he is encoding everything in black 1112130231 M * maharaja :) 1112130244 M * eyck why? 1112130250 M * maharaja because he uses some fancy scripts 1112130270 M * eyck it's stupid. 1112130271 M * eyck < aA> [maharaja] but if i du it with out lvm, if i it with per context disk limit it do not be quicker??? 1112130273 M * maharaja aA: i think that "maximum performance" is usually not the thing you need 1112130290 M * maharaja i ran some tests 1112130303 M * maharaja on my 120gb mirrored raid 1112130305 M * eyck oh well, what do I know, I thought pastebin is irritating. 1112130334 M * aA [maharaja]and? 1112130337 M * maharaja aA: will post you some results in a few secs 1112130344 M * aA ok:) 1112130345 M * Doener eyck: maybe it's some kind of security-by-obscurity ;) 1112130348 M * maharaja you have to convince me that 42mb/sec is not enough :) 1112130369 M * maharaja aA: http://www.nopaste.info/index.php?id=38c78eeb33 1112130379 M * maharaja 1 run each of "hdparm -t" 1112130407 M * maharaja will post you the 2 runs result in a few seconds 1112130414 M * maharaja as they differ 1112130434 M * aA [maharaja]ok 1112130437 M * eyck hdparm is not a real benchmark 1112130464 M * maharaja don't know how hdparm does things 1112130489 M * maharaja i know that you should use bonnie++ or so 1112130508 M * maharaja but i thought that hdparm has to work down through the layers in the kernel too 1112130518 M * maharaja so you can judge at least a little bit 1112130549 M * eyck hmm, not really, hdparm goes in large chunks, so you shouldn't be able to see effect of any layers 1112130561 M * maharaja i c 1112130564 M * maharaja well, second test: http://www.nopaste.info/index.php?id=fbe1c3ecec 1112130590 M * Doener hdparm is ok to check if dma transfer mode is enabled for ide disks, but that's it ;) 1112130596 M * maharaja :P 1112130626 M * aA [maharaja]ok, 10x:) 1112130671 M * aA [maharaja]do yo know anybody in this chanel who use per context disk limit?? 1112130701 M * daniel_hozac i use dlimits. 1112130702 M * maharaja aA: no - but you can fix your client and ask all of us ;) 1112130719 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1112130737 M * aA [maharaja]fix??? what you meen?? 1112130827 M * maharaja aA: you're writing black foreground color 1112130838 M * maharaja and most of the ppl in here use a black background 1112130849 M * aA [maharaja]:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 1112130853 M * maharaja so they're not able to read your messages 1112130858 M * maharaja you should read when others talk about you ;) 1112130866 M * maharaja aA: i found an article in german 1112130869 M * maharaja about lvm vs non-lvm 1112130881 M * maharaja it states that the author had the following setup: 1112130898 M * aA [maharaja]sorry, but i do not know german,,:( 1112130901 M * maharaja yes 1112130902 M * maharaja i know 1112130903 M * maharaja damn it 1112130908 M * maharaja let ppl write 1112130933 M * maharaja its ok that they cannot explain everything in 10secs 1112130935 M * maharaja be patient 1112130936 M * maharaja -- 1112130967 M * maharaja he tested with bonnie and a 500mb file 1112130986 M * maharaja 1 disk without lvm 1112130993 M * maharaja and 2 disks comined to 1 lvm 1112131004 M * maharaja he said that he did not notice any difference 1112131047 M * maharaja now: it can be that lvm uses some features similar to raid 1112131064 M * aA [maharaja]now ok with my colors? 1112131080 M * maharaja so 2 disks lvm 0 behave like raid 0 which results in a speed increase 1112131101 M * maharaja but i guess that you'll have more than 2 disks in your server 1112131101 M * maharaja :) 1112131123 M * aA [maharaja]yes:) 1112131134 M * maharaja so i think that lvm will do well 1112131150 M * Hollow your colors are not ok 1112131164 M * Hollow you shouldn't use colors at all 1112131180 M * mikegrb Beirdo: I recommend setting the channel +c ;) 1112131233 M * Beirdo :) 1112131247 M * Beirdo if it were my channel, I would :) 1112131263 M * Beirdo hehe, I think you meant Bertl_oO 1112131323 J * aA-01 ~a@120.228.dial-up.xter.net 1112131330 Q * aA Quit: »ˇ« Scřřp Script 2002 »!« See the life in a different way, get this wonderful script! www.scoopsite.com 1112131375 M * maharaja the chan is without an operator 1112131375 M * aA-01 maharaja: now ok? 1112131378 M * maharaja so no1 can do that 1112131380 J * DuckMaster ~Duck@dyn-83-157-199-234.ppp.tiscali.fr 1112131388 M * maharaja aA: you have to as the others :) 1112131393 M * maharaja as i use white background 1112131406 M * daniel_hozac maharaja: services are your friend :) 1112131408 M * maharaja mhm 1112131415 M * maharaja i c 1112131423 M * maharaja i never used oftc 1112131430 M * maharaja i only idle here as a guest :) 1112131453 M * aA-01 Hi anybody, you see what i writing? 1112131472 M * maharaja argl - switching to black 1112131487 M * DaCa yes its ok now 1112131499 M * aA-01 ooooooooooo, its good:) 1112131518 M * maharaja yes, looks good :) 1112131531 M * maharaja damn grsec is working too well :) 1112131543 M * maharaja trying to setup a vserver with debian-newvserver.sh 1112131548 M * maharaja and deebootstrap fails *g* 1112131555 M * maharaja I: Extracting mbr... 1112131556 M * maharaja mount: permission denied 1112131556 M * maharaja W: Failure trying to run: chroot /vservers/mysql mount -t proc proc /proc 1112131622 M * aA-01 eny one use per context disk limit in linux-vserver? 1112131723 M * aA-01 maharaja: you have som problems with debian-newvserver.sh??? 1112131736 M * maharaja yes 1112131749 M * maharaja i use grsecurity and it does not want me to mount stuff in the chrooted directory :) 1112131798 Q * DuckKing Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112131803 M * aA-01 maharaja: grsecurity, what is it? 1112131936 M * maharaja no offence but: you really think that you should be responsible for setting up a server for isp class hosting? 1112131965 M * maharaja cause imho its not good to start big with little knowledge 1112131995 M * maharaja grsecurity (www.grsecurity.net) is a set of kernel patches to improve security 1112132016 M * maharaja it uses different approaches to increasy local and remote security 1112132060 M * maharaja most of the time, it's about preventing a local (shell) user from doing strange things one normally does not want/need to do 1112132069 M * maharaja like mounting proc while being inside a chroot :P 1112132077 M * maharaja mhm *thinking* 1112132148 M * maharaja lets see if that sysctl stuff actually works :) 1112132232 M * aA-01 maharaja: and what the problem with debian-newvs.........?? 1112132289 M * maharaja grsecurity prevents debian-newvserver from mounting /proc inside the vserver 1112132348 M * maharaja and now from using chmod the way it wants to :) 1112132512 M * aA-01 maharaja: and why you do not diseable /proc mounting from deb..-vs....? 1112132545 M * maharaja damn 1112132567 M * aA-01 maharaja: what? 1112132587 M * maharaja i know how to fix it :) 1112132598 M * maharaja just talking that i do not get bored 1112132628 M * aA-01 maharaja: and how? 1112132678 M * maharaja sysctl -w kernel.grsecurity.chroot_deny_mount=0 1112132681 M * maharaja sysctl -w kernel.grsecurity.chroot_deny_chmod=0 1112132690 M * maharaja feeling better now? 1112132734 M * aA-01 maharaja: :) 1112132900 M * aA-01 maharaja: by the way, now i am looking www.grsecurity.net, LIDS is not better??? 1112132953 M * aA-01 maharaja: and with LIDS, system is working quicker!!! 1112133035 M * aA-01 maharaja: what you thing? 1112133122 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: what's the problem with disk limits? 1112133185 M * aA-01 daniel_hozac: can you tall me how can i do it, with per con. disk q., or where i get dos about it?? 1112133204 M * maharaja s/dos/documents/ 1112133229 M * maharaja aa: never used lids 1112133238 M * aA-01 maharaja: why? 1112133243 M * maharaja aa: grsec provided me with the things i wanted to have 1112133251 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: i'm sure the paper has some information about it, as well as the mailing list. 1112133256 Q * Vudumen Read error: No route to host 1112133256 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: also check the IRC logs. 1112133285 M * maharaja aa: the other thing i tried is openwall - but it's not available for 2.6.x 1112133322 Q * erwan_taf Read error: Operation timed out 1112133335 M * aA-01 maharaja: LiDS is a fastest, safely!!! 1112133354 M * maharaja aa: got any prove? 1112133373 M * aA-01 maharaja: i use it about 2 year!! and it good thing!! 1112133385 M * maharaja what else did you try? 1112133462 Q * Pazzo Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1112133514 M * aA-01 maharaja: hmm nothing:) 1112133529 M * maharaja aa: well, how can you tell that its the fastest, best, ... :) 1112133571 M * maharaja but ill take a look 1112133595 M * aA-01 maharaja: now i am reading about your tool... 1112133659 M * aA-01 maharaja: here are a some options wich is not, important!! 1112133716 M * aA-01 maharaja: in LIDS are the minimum options, (sorry for my english if not understand :)) 1112133769 M * aA-01 maharaja: and it work fastly,:) 1112133792 M * aA-01 maharaja: read about LIDS, its a good tool:) 1112133795 M * maharaja i will do 1112133871 M * aA-01 maharaja: and i newer have any problems with it, configuration is sooooooooooooooo hard, but result is so whelllll 1112133948 M * aA-01 maharaja: what size of kernel with yor tool, and without it? 1112134026 M * daniel_hozac why can't you just use SELinux? 1112134027 M * maharaja don't know without 1112134048 M * maharaja 2012805 bytes with 1112134054 M * maharaja daniel_hozac: who 1112134059 M * Doener #offtopic is over there ---> 1112134087 M * aA-01 daniel_hozac: do you use anything to controlling disk usage in vserver?? 1112134096 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: yes, disk limits. 1112134102 M * Doener aA-01: he already told you... 1112134145 M * aA-01 daniel_hozac: where i can get some info about it?? 1112134153 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: i told you that as well. 1112134240 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1112134257 M * Doener welcome Vudumen 1112134262 M * aA-01 maharaja: my with LIds, RAID, Pack filtering and etc.. is 1503084!:) 1112134282 M * maharaja aa: this is with vserver and stuff 1112134295 M * maharaja and honestly i do not care about the size as long as it runs as i except 1112134335 M * maharaja moreover: it is faster to increase the size by unfolding loops and stuff 1112134347 M * maharaja like: instead of writing: 1112134369 M * aA-01 daniel_hozac: sorry but i do not see it, can you tell me once again?? 1112134390 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: scroll up to about 20 minutes ago. 1112134413 M * maharaja i = 0; while (i < 100) { i++ } 1112134424 M * maharaja you write i++;i++;i++;i++;i++;i++ 1112134433 M * maharaja more code, less jumps, more speed 1112134449 M * maharaja before you state something: stupid example but you should get the point 1112134480 M * aA-01 maharaja: more code, less speed.........:) 1112134492 M * maharaja prove it 1112134503 M * maharaja it depends on the code 1112134523 M * maharaja think about my example and come back if you prove me wrong 1112134527 M * maharaja + can 1112134589 M * maharaja because when you say it that way, i think you mean that's _always_ true 1112134646 Q * Vudumen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112134769 M * aA-01 maharaja: sorry but i cant tell my thoughts in english, :( anyway:) 1112134820 M * aA-01 maharaja: advice: Read about LIDS!!! 1112134840 M * nox aA-01 what is your native language ? 1112134855 M * aA-01 nox: Armenian!! 1112134899 M * nox hmm an armenian lids-vserver howto wouldn´t help much peole i guess 1112134957 M * aA-01 nox: can you write more understandable??? 1112135115 M * aA-01 daniel_hozac: when i ask about info, i meen not, maillist, and logs, i meen ofical docs! 1112135126 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: that is the official docs. 1112135143 M * daniel_hozac aA-01: feel free to write something in the wiki to make it more "official" ;) 1112135193 M * aA-01 : anyway... 1112135193 Q * erwan_ho Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112135227 M * aA-01 ppl who use per context disk quota????? 1112135317 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1112135328 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1112135353 M * Bertl aA-01: most folks do ... if you mean disk limits ;) 1112135429 M * aA-01 Bertl: and how??????????:)))))))))))))))))))))) 1112135465 M * Bertl well, simply, by enabling xid tagging (with tagxid) and setting a disk limit with dlimit ;) 1112135496 M * Bertl (tagxid is a mount option) 1112135555 M * eyck hmm, btw, is quota working on 2.4.x with xfs? 1112135572 M * eyck I lost track and can't recall what was the status of that... 1112135579 M * Bertl has 2.4 xfs quota at all? 1112135614 M * aA-01 Bertl: a was do it, but after restart it forgot , the statistic!!! now i write some script to save before 1112135621 M * eyck that means no? 1112135630 M * eyck yeah, I've got xfs quota working in 2.4 1112135645 M * Bertl well, then yes ;) 1112135678 M * Bertl aA-01: yes, that's the proper way, either save the values or regenerate them by scanning the vserver 1112135685 M * eyck really? that would be very cool. 1112135702 M * aA-01 Bertl: but how can i do it without script??? 1112135795 M * aA-01 Bertl: really there are nothing to solve this problem?? 1112135826 M * Bertl well, I guess I do not understand your question ... 1112135880 M * aA-01 Bertl:there are nothing to solve problem with forgoting ?? 1112135907 M * aA-01 understand?? 1112135921 M * Bertl as I tried to point out, the 'script' is the way to make the data persistant 1112135921 Q * Vudumen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1112135937 M * Bertl anything bad about a simple script line? 1112135974 M * aA-01 no! 1112135982 M * Bertl good! ;) 1112136007 M * aA-01 can i do it without sctipting, ??? 1112136035 M * Bertl sure, you could write a C or haskel program or something like that ... 1112136103 M * eyck we've got haskel hackers here? 1112136119 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1112136169 M * Bertl wb Vudumen! 1112136171 M * aA-01 Bertl: how are you sole this thing?? with script? 1112136178 M * Doener hm, i had to do haskell some time ago... but just university stuff 1112136188 M * Doener evening Bertl! 1112136236 M * Bertl evening Doener! 1112136248 M * Bertl I spent some thought on the cow stuff ... 1112136301 M * Bertl while I think it could be improved a lot, it looks like it would not hurt (on the contrary, improve) the current iunlink stuff, what do you think? 1112136405 M * aA-01 Bertl: i do not understand, sorry! 1112136407 M * Doener yep, behaviour of iunlink should be about the same (regarding the part that's possible with iunlink), f.e. regarding the effects we saw with tail... 1112136561 M * Bertl aA-01: what kernel/tools do you use? 1112136613 M * aA-01 Bertl: for a what? 1112136642 M * Bertl well, for doing the vserver/disk limit stuff, of course?! 1112136820 M * aA-01 Bertl: kernel 2.4.27,linux-vserver-1.29patch 1112136844 M * Bertl + the quota patches, I guess ... 1112136883 M * aA-01 Bertl: patch-2.4.27-vs1.29-q0.14.diff 1112136890 M * Bertl yeah, okay ... 1112136905 M * aA-01 Bertl: and? 1112136951 M * Bertl have to lookup how stuff worked back there ;) 1112136979 M * Bertl ahh, cq-tools, cqdlim it was ... 1112136996 M * Bertl you got them installed too, I guess? 1112137033 M * aA-01 Bertl: yes!! 1112137093 M * aA-01 Bertl: but they was not work well!!! 1112137118 M * Bertl hmm, now we are getting closer to your issue it seems ... 1112137122 M * Bertl please elaborate ... 1112137257 M * aA-01 after restarsing server, ol statistik, about vservers is losed?? 1112137262 M * aA-01 why? 1112137277 J * erwan_taf ~erwan@81.80.43.68 1112137288 M * Bertl because it is not saved by the tools ... 1112137328 M * Bertl but you can easily save them yourself .. or recalculate them on startup 1112137357 M * aA-01 Bertl: ok, how can i save it, and wiht which tool? 1112137389 M * Bertl cqdlim will allow you to query the current settings 1112137407 M * Bertl with 'cqdlim -x /path/to/device' 1112137431 M * Bertl if you store them to some file on vserver shutdown 1112137441 M * Bertl you can use those values again for the startup ... 1112137452 Q * ciphernaut Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1112137513 M * nox if have problem with vserver lo device 1112137521 M * nox lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=10.2.2.3 DST=10.2.2.2 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00TTL=64 ID=23723 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=2208 DPT=6000 1112137531 M * aA-01 Bertl: where a mast save , and how??? how can i use values at start up??? can you tell? 1112137534 M * nox kann find any rule to match that 1112137568 M * nox s/lo/IN=lo 1112137625 M * Bertl # cqdlim -x 100 -S 100,200,1000,2000,5 /dev/discs/disc1/part1 1112137629 M * Bertl inodes:100/200 1112137629 M * Bertl blocks:1000/2000 (5%) 1112137638 M * Bertl # cqdlim -x 100 /dev/discs/disc1/part1 1112137638 M * Bertl inodes:100/200 1112137638 M * Bertl blocks:1000/2000 (5%) 1112137672 M * Bertl nox: what's the problem in matching that? 1112137724 M * nox iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i lo -d 10.2.2.2 -j ACCEPT <-- doesn´t work 1112137730 M * nox nor 30 other tries 1112137767 M * Bertl try output 1112137783 M * aA-01