1111881828 M * Doener ah, i love it... came home, connection died :)
1111881857 M * Bertl ;)
1111882308 M * Doener Bertl: in the 1.9.6 syslog-feat01... what's that good for?
1111882309 M * Doener +		spin_lock_irq(&log->logbuf_lock);
1111882309 M * Doener +		spin_unlock_irq(&log->logbuf_lock);
1111882342 M * Bertl for locking the virtual syslog buffer, yet to be implemented
1111882354 M * Bertl ;)
1111882361 M * Doener ah ok, so no voodoo involved ;)
1111882385 M * Bertl nope, just no need to add that yet, though feel free to add it 
1111882766 M * Doener ok, 1.9.6 patches look fine... didn't look at bme/unhold yet, since i'm not familiar with any of them... will try to do that tomorrow
1111882789 M * Bertl k, the bme can be splitted up further ...
1111882807 M * Bertl (I'll upload the pieces, that'll make it easier)
1111883047 M * Doener btw, trac (the wiki+svn+trouble ticket thing) seems to have nice active development... filed a bug report today (small minor issue), was fixed an hour later... they're almost as fast as you ;)
1111883062 M * Bertl hey cool!
1111883298 M * Doener maybe we're still alive when it suits our needs for linux-vserver ;) full email integration would be a huge step forward (IMHO), but unfortunately it's only planned for 2.0 (0.8.1 being current)
1111883342 M * Bertl hehe, well, maybe they are interested in some kind of cooperation ;)
1111883353 M * Doener you do python? *g*
1111883376 M * Bertl well, in the kernel? ;)
1111883582 J * DuckMaster ~Duck@dyn-83-157-200-154.ppp.tiscali.fr
1111883624 M * Bertl welcome DuckMaster!
1111883877 Q * ndim Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1111884204 J * ndim hun@helena.bawue.de
1111884626 M * Doener ah, another 2.6.11.z release... 
1111884627 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer
1111884627 J * Loki|muh_ loki@satanix.de
1111884636 M * Bertl yeah, .6
1111891012 M * Doener ensc|w: when you get around it, please remove v_sshd ;)
1111891031 M * Bertl ensc|w: second that ;)
1111891365 M * daniel_hozac why?
1111891412 M * Bertl because there is no real use for it?
1111891423 M * Doener and because it puts sshd into a network context
1111891440 M * Doener (which renders ssh session useless for vserver starts)
1111891441 M * daniel_hozac i guess i should've said, why now?
1111891441 M * Bertl (which usually is not what you want)
1111891453 M * Doener better late than never
1111891459 M * daniel_hozac heh.
1111892422 M * Doener off to bed now... good night/day/in-between everyone!
1111892430 N * Doener Doener_zZz
1111892440 M * Bertl night!
1111897214 M * jim_ Bertl: hey how do i check how many inodes in a dir?
1111897231 M * Bertl find?
1111897240 M * Bertl or no, I remember there was a du -i
1111897242 N * jim_ jd86
1111897244 M * jd86 thx
1111897250 M * jd86 nope
1111897300 M * Bertl well, probably that was s in daniel's modified version ;)
1111897312 M * Bertl but find | wc will do fine I guess
1111902128 M * Beirdo I tell ya... RPM is a PITA to compile
1111902134 M * Bertl ;)
1111902154 M * Beirdo Just spent 4.5-5h getting RPM-4.3.2 to compile
1111902164 M * Beirdo 4.0.4 is just to f'ing old
1111902205 M * Bertl well, it's not that hard on rpm based distros ...
1111902246 M * Beirdo well, to start with, rpm.org sucks
1111902256 M * Bertl never been there ...
1111902257 M * Beirdo they didn't even have 4.3.x on there
1111902268 M * Beirdo AND, they put the source to RPM in RPM
1111902272 M * Beirdo not .tar.gz
1111902278 M * Beirdo which is fucking dumb
1111902314 M * Bertl good that apt comes as tar ...
1111902326 M * Beirdo apt is native to debian
1111902341 M * Beirdo apt-rpm is a hack :)
1111902361 M * Beirdo a good addition to the RPM world, but still :)
1111902413 M * Bertl I'm talking about the debian apt (not apt-rpm ;)
1111902420 M * Beirdo ah :)
1111902421 M * Beirdo heh
1111902447 M * Beirdo pretty sure it does come in .tar.gz
1111902469 M * Beirdo now for the fun
1111902536 M * Beirdo error: can't create transaction lockwarning: /opt/fc3-x86_64/Fedora/RPMS/filesystem-2.3.0-1.x86_64.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2error: can't create transaction lock
1111902540 M * Beirdo muhahaha
1111902547 M * Bertl lol
1111902551 M * Beirdo the key should be easy to fix
1111902706 M * Beirdo mkdir /var/lock/rpm
1111902715 M * Beirdo that fixed the transaction locks :)
1111902747 M * Beirdo hmm
1111902761 M * Beirdo it still throws the error about the symlink
1111902776 M * Beirdo but the massive spew after isn't there
1111902840 M * Beirdo getting somewhere
1111902862 M * Bertl well, as I said, you are the ubuntu expert here ;)
1111902882 M * Beirdo warning: /opt/fc3-x86_64/Fedora/RPMS/filesystem-2.3.0-1.x86_64.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2
1111902889 M * Beirdo hmm.
1111902891 M * Bertl guess that is fine
1111902906 M * Beirdo but only on the one that's failing the install after
1111902908 M * Bertl I assume you ahve not imported the gpg keys from redhat
1111902909 M * Beirdo hmmm
1111902913 M * Beirdo not yet
1111903120 M * Beirdo oops, forgot to copy the key files off the CD too :)
1111903222 M * Bertl I'm sure they are available as rpm packages too ;)
1111903255 M * Beirdo they are on the CDs :)
1111906314 M * Beirdo http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200503/0127.html
1111906317 M * Beirdo gah!
1111906684 M * Beirdo and that did it
1111906692 M * Bertl excellent!
1111906694 M * Beirdo the vserver won't start up though :)
1111906703 M * Beirdo but that stupid error's gone
1111906706 M * Beirdo :)
1111906713 M * Bertl probably no services selected
1111906728 M * Beirdo No command given; use '--help' for more information.
1111906740 M * Beirdo I'm likely missing more stuff like that
1111906751 M * Bertl what's your command?
1111906769 M * Beirdo that was just a "vserver fc-build start"
1111906807 M * Beirdo what all should be in the /etc/vservers/.distributions/fc3 dir?
1111906815 M * Bertl and with --debug?
1111906916 M * Beirdo shouldn't the build put in more than those 4 RPMs?
1111906938 M * Bertl yeah, I guess so ...
1111906985 M * Beirdo which brings us back to the question of what should be in the .distributions/fc3 dir :)
1111906991 M * Bertl anyway, I have to leave you now ...
1111907010 M * Bertl have to get some sleep after all ...
1111907015 M * Beirdo true :)
1111907022 M * Beirdo 8am there?
1111907027 M * Beirdo go to bed, dude :)
1111907040 M * Bertl 9am daylight saving
1111907046 M * Beirdo oh right
1111907052 M * Bertl have a good one, and good luck!
1111907054 M * Beirdo you go DST on Easter
1111907059 M * Beirdo thanks :)
1111907065 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1111907150 M * Beirdo aha!
1111908965 M * eyck happy hannukah
1111908976 M * Beirdo uhh
1111908985 M * Beirdo I think yer off a few months for that
1111909162 M * eyck hmm, new year then maybe?
1111909175 M * eyck I think Chinese New Year was few weeks ago
1111909185 M * eyck happy easter then.
1111909185 M * Beirdo passover should be right around now
1111909194 M * eyck what is passover?
1111909196 M * Beirdo and, of course, easter
1111909204 M * Beirdo what is passover?!
1111909222 M * Beirdo you should bone up on your Jewish holidays :)
1111909225 M * eyck  A feast of the Jews, instituted to commemorate the
1111909226 M * eyck          sparing of the Hebrews in Egypt
1111909236 M * Beirdo correct
1111909247 M * eyck I thought that was 'pascha'
1111909267 M * Beirdo and Christ was crucified right at passover
1111909280 M * Beirdo I don't remember if it was just before or just after
1111909304 M * Beirdo pascha is the same thing, different language, i think
1111909365 M * eyck happy pascha then,
1111909430 M * Beirdo why thank you :)
1111919629 M * SiD3WiNDR silly Bertl_zZ 
1111919632 M * SiD3WiNDR going to sleep at 9am :p
1111920154 M * eyck hmm, he always does that.
1111920535 M * SiD3WiNDR I usually saw 5-6 am, which is still pretty late
1111920538 M * SiD3WiNDR but 9?! :)
1111921154 M * eyck well, it was summer solstice today
1111923854 M * SiD3WiNDR yea ok so it was 8 .. still ;)
1111924743 J * id_ ~test@relax-media.softwarezentrum.de
1111924762 M * id_ Happy Easter #vserver
1111926764 J * DukeGangsta|aw ~uefgangst@p54868B63.dip.t-dialin.net
1111927399 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving
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1111934679 N * Doener_zZz Doener
1111934690 M * Doener morning
1111935791 M * DaPhreak morning Doener :)
1111936057 M * eyck morning
1111936063 M * eyck hmm, actually...
1111936068 M * eyck good evening folks
1111936117 M * DaPhreak heh, yeah .. :) 5pm ;)
1111938044 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1111938632 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1111938760 Q * kevinp Read error: Operation timed out
1111939849 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net
1111942514 Q * DukeGangsta|aw Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )
1111943971 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1111943977 J * Steven| ~dsf@66-215-207-215.riv-eres.charterpipeline.net
1111943993 M * Bertl evening folks!
1111944157 M * DaPhreak evening Bertl :)
1111944324 M * Bertl tx DaPhreak!
1111944330 M * Bertl welcome Steven|!
1111944362 M * Steven| hi
1111944371 M * Bertl SiD3WiNDR: I was recompiling my Xorg ;)
1111944384 M * Steven| thats always fun :P
1111944412 M * Bertl yeah, especially on older machines ;)
1111944429 M * Steven| like installing gentoo on an older machine
1111944430 A * Steven| yawn
1111944432 M * Bertl but it was successful ...
1111945057 M * Beirdo Heya, Bertl :)
1111945069 M * Bertl morning Beirdo!
1111945102 M * Beirdo So, I think all I'm missing at this point is a proper rpm package list or something :)
1111945189 M * Bertl well, IIRC, arp-rpm has some repository lists, no?
1111945197 M * aba Hi, Bertl 
1111945204 M * Bertl hey aba!
1111945211 M * Beirdo I'm not using apt-rpm, remember :)  I'm using rpm :)
1111945224 M * Bertl ah, yeah, ubuntu ;)
1111945279 M * Bertl well, shouldn't be too ahrd to get a good one ...
1111945284 M * Beirdo so I'm unclear what's actually supposed to be installed.
1111945295 M * Beirdo yeah, one would think so :)
1111945312 M * Bertl @all, anybody around who has already installed an fc3 guest?
1111945398 M * Bertl ah, well, google knows more ...
1111945400 M * Bertl http://lists.progeny.com/archive/lsb-workers/200501/msg00000.html
1111945520 M * daniel_hozac most my guests are FC3.
1111945532 M * Hollow Bertl: would it be ok if i copy parts of your vserver paper to the gentoo vserver handbook i'm thinking about? http://home.xnull.de/work/gentoo/vserver/handbook.txt
1111945545 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: excellent, could you do an rpm -ql for Beirdo?
1111945563 M * daniel_hozac you mean -qa?
1111945564 M * Bertl Hollow: did you read the license?
1111945589 M * Hollow (few) parts
1111945592 M * Hollow ;)
1111945612 M * Bertl  Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the
1111945613 M * Hollow it's so horrible long
1111945615 M * Bertl GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation. 
1111945630 M * Beirdo daniel_hozac: just need a list of rpms to install via rpm as I can't use apt-rpm :)
1111945651 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yep, -qa ;)
1111945666 M * Beirdo enough to get a base working guest.  which I'll then install apt-rpm inside :)
1111945723 M * daniel_hozac well, i use yum for that ;)
1111945787 M * Beirdo well, either way, I just need enough for a vserver guest that I can boot up and use.  I'll be putting mach in it, etc once it works
1111945796 J * ruth ~ruth@p5488D5F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1111945801 M * daniel_hozac http://rpm.hozac.com/tmp/fc3-rpms.list
1111945810 M * Bertl welcome ruth!
1111945823 M * ruth Hi Bert1!
1111945846 M * ruth Can you help me with the parameters from vserver?
1111945857 M * Bertl probably ...
1111945881 M * ruth I want to make an new vserver and want to have network inside my vserver
1111945892 M * Beirdo thank you, daniel_hozac  :)
1111945908 M * Beirdo I'll massage the list a bit as I use x86_64, but much appreciated :)
1111945910 M * ruth I found the --interface but how to use it?
1111945937 M * Bertl okay, that's simple:
1111945947 M * Bertl if you have an existing ip assigned to some interface
1111945963 M * Bertl you use --interface 192.168.0.1 (or what ip you have)
1111945971 M * ruth yup eth0 has an IP ...
1111945976 M * Bertl if you want the tools to create an ip address
1111945996 M * Bertl you use --interface eth0:192.168.0.2 (device and interface might differ)
1111946007 M * Bertl and finally, if you want to have an alias created
1111946028 M * Bertl you use --interface hansi=eth0:192.168.0.3 (again name, interface and ip might differ)
1111946062 M * ruth ah ... the first one bridges, the second one assigns a new IP for the vserver ... ist that right?
1111946078 M * Bertl you might also specify a netmask with 192.168.0.4/16 for example
1111946083 M * Hollow i get many warnings during compile the latest patches:
1111946086 M * Hollow include/linux/vs_base.h:207:2: warning: #warning duplicate inclusion
1111946111 M * Bertl ruth: no, all networking happens on the host (with the legacy networking) and the first one 'reuses' an existing ip
1111946136 M * Bertl (if that is the same ip your host uses, then the services might clash)
1111946195 M * ruth ah .. ok ... then I should give each vserver its own IP?
1111946204 M * Bertl Hollow: interesting which arch?
1111946212 M * Hollow i386
1111946236 M * Hollow gcc version 3.4.3-20050110 (Gentoo Linux 3.4.3.20050110, ssp-3.4.3.20050110-0, pie-8.7.7)
1111946243 M * Bertl ruth: yes, either a public one or a private one you masquerade/snat to the public one ...
1111946266 M * Bertl Hollow: kernel + patches please?
1111946287 M * Hollow 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5-grsec-2.1.4
1111946320 M * Bertl please, could you upload your kernel config somewhere?
1111946337 M * ruth if I enter: "vserver vserver01 build -m skeleton --hostname vserver01 --flags lock,nproc -initstyle gentoo --interface eth0:192.168.78.80"
1111946337 M * ruth I get "vserver-build: invalid option -- i"
1111946358 M * Bertl ruth: command line as you enter it?
1111946397 M * Hollow http://home.xnull.de/misc/config-2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5-grsec2.1.4
1111946402 M * Bertl thanks!
1111946426 M * ruth Bert1: Yes
1111946461 M * ruth Bert1: following the guide from http://dev.gentoo.org/~hollow/vserver/guide/
1111946465 J * SgUeSs redesul@dl-lns4-tic-C8B13296.dialterra.com.br
1111946475 M * Bertl ruth: (rephrased) please provide the 'command line as you enter it' ...
1111946487 M * Bertl ruth: well, ~hollow -> Hollow ;)
1111946507 M * Hollow ruth: use --initscript
1111946508 M * Bertl welcome SgUeSs!
1111946510 M * Hollow erm
1111946513 M * Hollow --initstyle
1111946533 M * SgUeSs fuck you
1111946545 A * Hollow wonders
1111946550 M * Bertl SgUeSs: why so?
1111946555 M * SgUeSs #fuck.you 
1111946566 M * SgUeSs my names is James
1111946573 M * SgUeSs James hetfield
1111946577 M * SgUeSs and you?
1111946588 M * Bertl well, my name is Herbert
1111946592 M * ruth Bert1: vserver-build: unrecognized option `--initscript'
1111946593 M * Beirdo Oooh, immaturity.  Just what we need
1111946600 M * Hollow ruth: --initstyle
1111946615 M * Bertl SgUeSs: but you can call me Bertl ;)
1111946638 M * SgUeSs ok
1111946648 M * ruth Bert1: --initstyle worked :) .. so far ...
1111946665 M * Bertl SgUeSs: so what brings you here?
1111946677 A * Hollow feels disregarded *g*
1111946688 M * Hollow dinner, later!
1111946695 M * Bertl ejoy your meal!
1111946715 M * SgUeSs meal?
1111946728 M * ruth Bert1: Thanks!
1111946758 M * Bertl ruth: you're welcome!
1111946838 M * SgUeSs yei
1111946842 M * Bertl SgUeSs: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=meal
1111946886 M * Bertl hmm, what about Apocalyptica?
1111946907 M * Beirdo SgUeSs: grow up
1111947092 M * Bertl well, growing up is not the best thing to do ..
1111947120 M * Bertl but thinking a little harder is a good start ;)
1111947326 M * Beirdo yay.
1111947339 M * Beirdo building from that list of RPMs (after massaging)
1111947359 M * Bertl sed 's/i586/x86_64/g'?
1111947369 M * Beirdo a bit more than that
1111947383 M * Beirdo strip out all the versions, then use ls to find the version on the CD
1111947390 M * Beirdo then remove duplicates :)
1111947395 M * Bertl you might consider uploading that for ubuntu/debian folks ;)
1111947406 M * Beirdo yeah. :)
1111947423 M * Beirdo rpm-fake-resolver: write(): Connection reset by peer
1111947426 M * Beirdo interesting
1111947450 M * Beirdo woohoo
1111947484 M * Beirdo thank you very much, daniel_hozac :)
1111947500 M * Beirdo I had to add patch-*.rpm, but that was it :)
1111947578 M * Bertl excellent!
1111947626 M * Beirdo that's the largest part of the battle, for sure
1111947660 M * Beirdo other than building an rpm for ubuntu that wasn't 4.0.4 :)
1111947665 M * Beirdo frigging ancient
1111947678 M * Beirdo using 4.3.2 now
1111948296 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1111948644 M * Bertl well, seems he _did_ some thinking after all ...
1111948869 M * Hollow back
1111948875 M * Bertl wb Hollow!
1111948921 M * Bertl checked your config ... with 2.6.11.6-vs1.9.5 and got no warnings, so I assume that the grsec patch adds duplicate inclusions ...
1111948950 M * Bertl (the warnings are intentional but harmless)
1111949045 M * Hollow ok, i thought so and have a look, thx anyway
1111949227 Q * lilo Quit: bbiab
1111949260 M * Bertl np
1111949885 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1111949900 M * Bertl wb lilo!
1111951947 Q * lilo Quit:  
1111952273 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1111952449 J * ndim hun@helena.bawue.de
1111952456 M * Bertl welcome ndim!
1111952765 M * ndim Hi
1111952820 M * ndim BTW, there are no basic problems when combining vservers and SELinux, or are there?
1111952855 M * Bertl well, you ahve to use the linux-apabilites
1111952860 M * Bertl *capabilities ...
1111952875 M * Bertl and of course you have to configure the SElinux stuff properly ...
1111952894 M * ndim But I won't have to hack the kernel first, apart from bugfixes? :-)
1111952902 M * ndim Good.
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1111954305 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no
1111954312 M * Bertl welcome sannes!
1111954321 M * sannes :)
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1111956762 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-133-136.adsl.proxad.net
1111956763 M * erwan_ho lo
1111956773 M * Bertl hey erwan!
1111956802 M * erwan_ho hey Bertl \o/
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1111958367 J * Hollow ~Hollow@home.xnull.de
1111958667 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1111958814 M * Bertl wb Hollow!
1111958823 M * Hollow hey bertl
1111958826 A * Hollow yawns
1111959421 M * Doener what's up Hollow? the night is young!
1111959432 M * Hollow but the day is old :P
1111959438 M * Hollow i'm awake since 9 am
1111959757 M * Bertl hey Doener, did we exchange friendly greetings yet?
1111959783 M * Doener hm, not today...
1111959785 M * eyck young?
1111959786 M * Doener morning Bertl!
1111959791 M * eyck it's almost midnight.
1111959793 M * eyck go to sleep.
1111959906 M * eyck happy pascha btw
1111959944 M * Bertl yup, yup ...
1111959954 M * Bertl morning Doener! how are you?
1111960000 M * Doener fine, and you?
1111960035 A * Beirdo jumps around. :)
1111960051 M * Beirdo the FC3 vserver is behaving nicely
1111960155 M * Beirdo now it's just a matter of getting all the services sorted out, etc
1111960880 N * ruth bubble
1111960990 N * bubble ruut
1111960992 M * Bertl Doener: thanks everything fine ...
1111961016 M * Bertl bubble? ruut? ...
1111961224 M * ruut :) ... bubble and ruth seem to be nicks from other guys ... and root and ruth and ruut are nearly the same ;)
1111961224 M * slapper alright
1111961433 M * nox Bertl: sorry for late feedback bme works great !!!
1111961546 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no
1111961627 M * nox Bertl: thx 4 additions 2 
1111962799 J * helloworld ~chrisvar@82-70-67-13.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1111962842 M * Bertl nox: great!
1111962853 M * Bertl welcome helloworld!
1111962864 M * helloworld hello
1111963103 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-3-115.dclient.hispeed.ch
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1111963126 M * Bertl evening yarihm!
1111963149 M * yarihm hi bertl ... :-/ sup?
1111963185 M * Bertl everything paschal here .. and for you?
1111963213 M * yarihm i saw my ex-girlfriend with her new guy ... 
1111963308 M * Bertl well, and how do you feel about it?
1111963378 M * yarihm i was not as cool as i would have expected ...
1111963415 M * yarihm but hey, so what ... that was to come, sooner or later
1111964324 P * helloworld 
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1111966058 M * eyck nighty night
1111966262 M * Bertl night!
1111966668 N * ntrs_ ntrs
1111967397 J * DuckKing ~Duck@dyn-83-157-151-194.ppp.tiscali.fr
1111967502 M * Bertl welcome DuckKing!
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