1111796581 M * Medivh hi 1111796600 M * Medivh just having a strange problem i've never seen before 1111796612 M * Medivh trying to start sshd (from ssh.com, ver 3.2.9.1) and i get "sshd2[30066]: FATAL: daemon(): Success" 1111796615 M * Medivh any ideas? 1111796641 M * Medivh same thing happened with openssh btw 1111796658 M * daniel_hozac strace it? 1111796698 M * Beirdo Bertl_oO: seems to come up OK :) 1111796702 M * Beirdo so far so good 1111796726 M * Beirdo uptime 497d? nice try 1111796738 M * Medivh straced it, nothing that told me anything tho... but just found it, /dev/null was missign heh 1111796779 M * Doener Medivh: check your /dev/null 1111796822 M * Beirdo hmmm. saying /proc isn't mounted. 1111796834 M * Doener it's most likely broken (for example replaced by a regular file) 1111796842 M * Beirdo it's mounted 1111796872 M * Doener hmm... i'm kinda slow... 1111796895 M * daniel_hozac Beirdo: proc security? 1111796910 M * Doener http://linux-vserver.org/Proc-Security 1111796951 M * Doener damn, what's up with my connection? 1111797036 M * nox Doener: can you tell me where a 1.9.5-1.9.5.3 patch is? 1111797089 M * Beirdo I'm lost 1111797168 M * Doener nox: not really, but i guess it's just 1.9.5 + the patches from http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-1.9.6/ 1111797185 M * Doener nox: the bme patch doesn't apply to 1.9.5? 1111797233 M * Doener Beirdo: the proc-security page doesn't help? (especially the last paragraph should actually ;) 1111797236 M * nox no but bertl fixed think you read it .. 1111797319 M * Doener i meant the bme patch for 1.9.5.3... cause you asked for 1.9.5.3 ;) 1111797372 M * nox hehe that was rc3 1111797398 M * nox but applies well to plain 1.9.5 1111797442 M * Beirdo WTF? 1111797453 M * Beirdo WTF is vconfig? 1111797462 M * daniel_hozac VLAN configuration utility. 1111797470 M * Beirdo and I need this why? 1111797471 M * Beirdo :) 1111797490 M * daniel_hozac because. :) 1111797495 M * Doener because the tools support vlan stuff, IIRC you can disable that support while configuring 1111798585 J * j357 ~m00@wv-rndhll-cmts1a-a-105.shphwv.adelphia.net 1111798970 Q * jason357 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1111800068 Q * matti Quit: 8-X 1111801137 M * Beirdo OK, first attempt to debianize 0.30.204 tools seems to have gone OK 1111801150 M * Beirdo and vprocunhide worked 1111801206 M * Doener Beirdo: hm, there should be a 0.30.204 package in experimental AFAIK 1111801224 M * Beirdo I'm using unbuntu hoary to be precise 1111801264 M * Doener ah, they're even in unstable now... isn't that available as 'universe' or something in ubuntu? 1111801284 M * Beirdo 0.30-10 is there 1111801308 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-204-144.dclient.hispeed.ch 1111801386 M * Doener hm, interesting at least... debian has 0.30-14 in testing (and nothing in stable of course ;) 1111801416 M * Beirdo anyways, this seems to behave 1111801434 M * Beirdo now to build me a new vserver 1111801828 Q * sebd Remote host closed the connection 1111801889 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1111801896 M * Beirdo sigh 1111801912 M * Bertl why do you sigh Beirdo? 1111801913 M * Beirdo the tools are there, the kernel seems to behave 1111801931 M * Beirdo now I'm trying to create a vserver, and I'm lost again :( 1111801935 M * Beirdo not my day 1111801952 M * Bertl lost how, lost why? 1111801979 M * Beirdo trying to find the docs (again) to tell me how to make the vserver image 1111801998 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1111802002 M * Bertl see the examples 1111802020 M * Beirdo that sounds familiar :) 1111802073 M * Beirdo yeah that's the one I used 1111802075 M * Beirdo OK. 1111802100 M * Beirdo I did a debootstrap 1111802138 M * Bertl well, you 'should' do a ... 1111802140 M * Bertl vserver build -m debootstrap * -- -d sarge # or woody 1111802161 M * Beirdo right 1111802177 M * Beirdo I did that with hoary... which built a directory structure 1111802190 M * Bertl (replace * with something like --hostname vs.foo.org --interface 192.168.3.1/21 --context 42 1111802201 M * Beirdo now when I do vserver foo start, it can't find /etc/init.d/rc 1111802203 M * Beirdo I think 1111802220 M * Doener you can check with: vserver --debug foo start 1111802223 M * Bertl does ubuntu not have /etc/init.d/rc ? 1111802231 M * Beirdo doesn't seem to :) 1111802249 M * Bertl well, what kind of init is used there? 1111802263 M * Bertl (you're the ubuntu expert here ;) 1111802345 M * Beirdo not much of an expert, gimme a sec 1111802367 M * Beirdo yeah, rc is there 1111802373 M * Beirdo let me look in the vserver image 1111802398 M * Beirdo yeah, it's there too. 1111802405 M * Beirdo OK, let's try with a --debug 1111802456 M * Beirdo WARNING: can not find configuration, assuming legacy method 1111802462 Q * alexx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1111802487 M * Beirdo capchroot: execvp("/etc/init.d/rc"): No such file or directory 1111802489 M * Beirdo hmm 1111802528 M * Beirdo it's there, it's executable 1111802534 M * Beirdo wonder what I missed 1111802537 M * Bertl hmm, why legacy? 1111802550 M * Bertl didn't you use vserver build? 1111802555 M * Doener hm, the creation went smoothly? i.e. debootstrap completed fine? 1111802557 M * Beirdo I built the vserver with util-vserver 0.30 1111802564 M * Beirdo now I have 0.30.204 1111802569 M * Beirdo should I redo it? 1111802576 M * Bertl I'd suggest so ... 1111802581 M * Beirdo K :) 1111802598 M * Bertl escpecially as I 'guess' that you didn't use 0.30 but 0.30-X ;) 1111802609 M * Beirdo 0.30-10 1111802610 M * Beirdo yes 1111802640 M * Bertl make sure to get rid of that and vserver-debiantools 1111802649 M * Beirdo yup, done both 1111802663 M * Beirdo I debianized 0.30.204 to install it 1111802805 M * Beirdo OK, it's building the vserver 1111802825 M * Beirdo I: Retrieving apt-utilsE: Couldn't download apt-utils 1111802829 M * Beirdo argh 1111802831 M * Beirdo sigh 1111802847 M * Beirdo let me try woody 1111802890 M * Beirdo nope 1111802939 M * Beirdo I: Retrieving debootstrap.invalid_dists_sarge_Release 1111802957 M * Beirdo E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-amd64/Packages 1111802962 M * Beirdo oh what fun 1111802984 M * Bertl you're on x86_64? 1111802988 M * Beirdo yes 1111803074 M * Bertl ou can configure the mirror with '-m ' or by putting it into the file /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/debootstrap/mirror. This command assumes either an installed debootstrap package, or will download it from the URI configured in /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/debootstrap/uri 1111803100 M * Beirdo don't think I removed debootstrap :) 1111803120 M * Beirdo trying with ubuntu warty 1111803127 M * Beirdo let's see if it barfs 1111803196 M * Beirdo and I had the -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian on there for the woody/sarge attempts 1111803231 M * Beirdo warty seems to be OK so far 1111803305 M * Beirdo wonder what I borked :) 1111803306 M * Beirdo heh 1111803405 M * Beirdo you notice I'm assuming I borked it, not your code :) hehe 1111803446 M * Bertl well, I would check what debian might have 'borked' too ... 1111803462 M * Beirdo but of course :) 1111803466 M * Bertl at least I know that 'some' versions of debootstrab, were not able to debootstrap ;) 1111803488 M * Beirdo the vserver-debiantools or whatever might contain something I actually need 1111803508 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176 1111803529 M * Beirdo but this seems to be installing warty no problem so far 1111803605 M * Bertl no, I can assure you the vserver-debiantools do not contain anything of value for you ... 1111803635 M * Beirdo heh, OK 1111803676 M * Beirdo up to net-tools 1111803832 M * Beirdo the really joyful part will be installing FC3 under ubuntu :) 1111803865 M * Bertl well, if there is an apt-rpm for ubuntu, why not? 1111803972 M * Beirdo :) 1111803983 M * Beirdo OK, that installed fine, now to try it 1111804037 M * Beirdo * The configured vshelper '/sbin/vshelper' does not match the 'vshelper' script of the util-vserver package 1111804040 M * Beirdo heh 1111804052 Q * alexx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1111804058 M * Bertl read the explanation ;) 1111804068 A * Beirdo sighs once again. I assume that's the host not matching the vserver's? 1111804081 M * Beirdo ahhhh 1111804084 M * Beirdo gotcha 1111804086 M * Bertl that's the host being not configured properly ... 1111804105 M * Bertl (do the echo ... part) 1111804140 M * Bertl well, first the >proc/sys/vshelper one 1111804164 M * Beirdo yep 1111804178 M * Beirdo and added it to the sysctl.conf 1111804184 M * Bertl excellent 1111804212 M * Beirdo capset(): Operation not permitted 1111804214 M * Beirdo haha 1111804217 M * Beirdo God, I suck 1111804229 M * Bertl hmm ... that sounds interesting ... 1111804234 M * Beirdo time to reconfig the kernel? 1111804245 M * Beirdo capabilities are not enabled in kernel-setup 1111804247 M * Bertl well, you _did_ patch it, right? 1111804250 M * Beirdo yes 1111804261 M * Bertl okay, you didn't compile linux caps? 1111804278 M * Beirdo is that a separate package? 1111804293 M * Bertl no a kernel option (debian likes to make it a module) 1111804299 M * Beirdo ahh 1111804301 M * Beirdo one sec 1111804321 M * Bertl (which btw, is a totally idiotic default) 1111804337 M * Beirdo yeah, well.. all distros do stupid things 1111804363 M * Bertl yeah, and there is always a winner ;) 1111804431 M * Doener Bertl: debian kernels use some special(? don't know if it's vanilla) feature to load the module before starting any services... don't know if you can really make any use of the caps being a module (and unloading them?) but who knows? (at least i don't ;) 1111804457 M * Bertl well, I guess it's because of the selinux stuff 1111804458 M * Beirdo what should I look for in .config? 1111804471 M * Doener disable CONFIG_SECURITY 1111804477 M * Bertl which obviously clashes with the capability stuff if not done ... 1111804488 M * Beirdo ahhh 1111804501 M * Beirdo capabilites are modular 1111804517 J * alexx ~alexx@82.225.136.176 1111804521 A * Bertl .oO( hmm, isn't that what I said? ) 1111804532 M * Bertl welcome alexx! 1111804557 M * Doener yep, debian default ;) CONFIG_SECURITY makes it possible to choose between different security models... you most probably don't need that, thus disabling CONFIG_SECURITY is just fine 1111804596 M * Beirdo trying to remember which file I need to set the startup modules in 1111804636 M * Beirdo /etc/modules 1111804638 M * Beirdo :) 1111804639 M * Beirdo OK 1111804640 M * Bertl Beirdo: but I hope you are going to write some stuff about the installation (HowTo, Caveats, etc) 1111804652 M * Bertl (once you're finished) 1111804673 M * Beirdo I'll likely not remember :) 1111804675 M * Doener Beirdo: no, for that modules there's some configuration in /lib/modules//some/thing 1111804694 M * Bertl Beirdo: well, you have the channel log to help you ;) 1111804699 M * Beirdo true :) 1111804753 M * Beirdo woohoo 1111804756 M * Beirdo it started 1111804781 M * Bertl yeah, see? mainline tools -> all working ;) 1111804797 M * Beirdo the tools ubuntu had were mainline 1111804798 M * Beirdo just old 1111804801 M * Beirdo :) 1111804807 M * Beirdo for 2.4 kernels 1111804822 M * Bertl not even that I guess ;) 1111804828 M * Beirdo heh 1111804836 M * Beirdo they likely are borked anyways 1111804849 M * Beirdo OK, where would I sign up for the wiki? 1111804862 M * Bertl no need to do so .. just edit away 1111804879 M * Beirdo Hmmm. 1111804883 M * Bertl (you should set a meaningful name in prefs though) 1111804900 M * Bertl (and make good use of the 'preview' option) 1111804909 M * Beirdo OK. Well, I really should make notes of this 1111804916 M * Beirdo which type of wiki is it? 1111804920 M * Bertl tavi 1111804935 M * Beirdo never used that one. is the markup easy? 1111804959 M * Bertl have a look at the pages and/or the formatting guides ;) 1111804965 M * Beirdo OK :) 1111805026 M * Beirdo I'm kinda used to moin (puke) and mediawiki, so I should be able to figure it out 1111805042 M * Bertl moinmoin ;) 1111805065 M * Beirdo moinmoin really annoyed me, which is why I went with mediawiki for my own 1111805127 M * Beirdo OK, this markup's quite similar to mediawiki, I should be fine 1111805138 M * Bertl excellent! 1111805269 M * Bertl nox: did you find all the pieces? 1111805614 M * ataraxis when my vserver says "-bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable" what limitation caused that? (I only put 15 mails through my spam/virusfilter) 1111805631 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1111805633 M * Bertl probably the process number limitation 1111805666 M * ataraxis i probably have no chance to see the setting, do I? 1111805682 M * Bertl check with ulimit 1111805729 M * ataraxis unlimit gives me: unlimited 1111805746 M * ataraxis ah: max user processes: 128 1111805758 M * Bertl check both hard and soft ;) 1111805819 M * Doener and probably you got the nproc flag set, which makes the limit apply to the whole vserver 1111805833 M * Bertl precisely! 1111805946 M * ataraxis as far as i can tell both the hard and soft limit is at 128. I think that is a bit low. apache2 alone has 59 processes 1111805966 M * Bertl you can easily tune that (the apache processes) 1111806011 M * ataraxis i'm already in the config file and playing around :) 1111806678 M * Beirdo Bertl: any desired title for a vserver on ubuntu page name? 1111806704 M * Bertl well, let's see ... we have ... 1111806726 M * Bertl # FedoraCore3_HowTo (start here if you want to run an all Fedora Core 3 box) 1111806732 M * Bertl # FedoraHowTo (start here if you want to run an all Fedora Core 1 box) 1111806753 M * Bertl # SlackwareVserverHowto 1111806765 M * Bertl # [Linoratix vserver on kernel 2.6] (german) 1111806773 M * Bertl # GentooGuestHowto 1111806775 M * Beirdo UbuntuVserverHowTo maybe? 1111806788 M * Bertl yeah, sounds like a reasonable choice ;) 1111806969 M * Doener enough for me for today... good night folks! Bertl, Beirdo! 1111806973 N * Doener Doener|zZz 1111806975 M * Bertl night Doener|zZz! 1111806987 M * Beirdo night :) 1111809281 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1111809592 M * Beirdo there's a first run 1111809603 M * Bertl yeah, just saw it ;) 1111809608 M * Beirdo heh 1111810007 M * Beave Hey.. all... 1111810020 M * Bertl hey Beave! 1111810030 M * Beave woo! 1111810033 M * Beave friday. 1111810060 M * Bertl well, it's 5am on saturday here ;) 1111810111 M * Beirdo :) 1111810133 M * Beirdo I miss punsch and gluhwein :) 1111810148 M * Bertl don't drink and code ;) 1111810153 M * Beirdo bah :) 1111810168 M * Bertl well, you might easily crash your kernel ;) 1111810176 M * Beirdo we were in Vienna just before Christmas on our last trip we took 1111810187 M * Beirdo the markets were fun 1111810208 M * Beave haha. 1111811749 Q * ataraxis Read error: Connection reset by peer 1111812266 M * Beave Bertl: Have you heard of anyone doing a asterisk (voip) install under a vserver? 1111812285 M * Bertl yep, somebody was doing/planning so 1111812289 M * Beave We've got the basic asterisk stuff up.. (for sip/iax2) , but then came up... 1111812300 M * Beave about the ztdummy drivers... 1111812327 M * Beave which allow for conferencing (meetme) and music on hold.. which are kernel modules.. 1111812361 M * Beave basically, ztdummy uses the USB for timing and "acts" like a Diguim/phone card. 1111812364 M * Bertl well, you probably have to load them on the host then ... 1111812367 M * Beave yeah. 1111812389 M * Beave what im wonder, will the vservers "share" the ztdummy okay? 1111812397 M * Beave ever run into anything like this? 1111812424 M * Beave I sorta thinking not. 1111812475 M * Bertl well, depends on 'how' that thingy is coded ... 1111812486 M * Beave to me (and im still green with vservers) , it would be like several vservers trying to all use a piece of hardware. 1111812489 M * Beave yeah.. 1111812490 M * Bertl for example, if I have two serial ports 1111812513 M * Bertl it's pretty easy to give access to one port for vserver a and the second to vserver b 1111812518 M * Beave yeah.. 1111812542 M * Beave but the second two vservers try to access the same serial port.. you're sorta screwed.. eh? 1111812568 M * Bertl yeah, well, you just don't do that ;) 1111812578 M * Beave exactly.. thats my thoughts.. 1111812586 M * Bertl (give a port to more than one vserver, that is) 1111812616 M * Beave hehe. basically, ztdummy "acts" like one card. It might be possible to load multiple ztdummys with different "hardware" addresses. 1111812622 M * Beave anyways.. i just wanted to bounce that off you. 1111812627 M * Bertl but as I said, no idea about this module and how it works with asterisk ... 1111812632 M * Beave i was pretty sure i already knew the answer. 1111812648 M * Beave im going to try it anyways, but i think i know what the results will be. 1111812653 M * Beave i'll let you know. 1111812655 M * Bertl k 1111812668 M * Beave thanks again. 1111812676 M * Bertl np 1111814109 M * Beirdo Bertl: still up? 1111814115 M * Bertl yup 1111814143 M * Beirdo is there something special I need to do on the host to get an ethernet alias created automagically or something? 1111814156 M * Bertl no, just configure it ... 1111814181 M * Beirdo so I'd actually have to pre-configure a bunch of aliases for the vservers to use? 1111814183 M * Bertl --interface 192.168.0.1 (will use existing ip) 1111814197 M * Beirdo I want each vserver on a different IP 1111814209 M * Bertl --interface eth0:192.168.0.2 (will create iproute entry) 1111814221 M * Beirdo ahhhh 1111814226 M * Bertl --interface hansi=eth0:192.168.0.3 (will add an alias) 1111814239 M * Bertl alias will be called eth0:hansi 1111814247 M * Bertl you can change that in the config afterwards 1111814263 M * Bertl just make sure to stop the vserver first 1111814297 M * Bertl the eth0 -> interfaces/??/dev, 192.168... ->interfaces/??/ip, and hansi ->interfaces/??/name 1111814314 M * Bertl (if you have no dev, then touch nodev ;) 1111814316 M * Beirdo and it has to be a name? 1111814335 M * Beirdo I wasn't aware that eth0:text would work 1111814339 M * Bertl well, no, you can use 001, 002 ... 1111814347 M * Bertl or whatever you want ... 1111814365 M * Bertl up to 15 chars including the device name (eth0) will be stored 1111814369 M * Beirdo well, cool, that did it :) 1111814374 M * Beirdo I had no idea 1111814375 M * Beirdo :) 1111814376 M * Bertl 4 characters will be visible on ifconfig 1111814402 M * Beirdo when did they add that to the kernel, I wonder? 1111814417 M * Bertl the alias? 1111814430 M * Beirdo yeah, I remember it being numeric-only 1111814437 M * Bertl somewhere around 1.2 IIRC ;) 1111814448 M * Beirdo they always allowed text? 1111814457 M * Beirdo odd, I never knew it :) 1111814468 M * Bertl well, usually folks don't use it ... 1111814494 M * Bertl one of my favorites is eth0 and eth0: ;) 1111814530 M * Beirdo argh 1111814537 M * Beirdo no wonder my ping didn't work 1111814544 M * Beirdo I put 192.161 in DNS 1111814546 M * Beirdo doh 1111814582 M * Beirdo works better with the right IP :) 1111814682 M * Beirdo found out that ax25 was crapping things out :) 1111814691 M * Beirdo sorry 1111814692 M * Bertl yeah, a little ... 1111814693 M * Beirdo x25 1111814708 M * Bertl I did some fixes to x25 already, but it's still broken ... 1111814719 M * Beirdo so I disabled all the unused protocols PROPERLY in the host and the guest, much better 1111814766 M * Beirdo hmm 1111814775 M * Beirdo now... no apt-rpm or yum in ubuntu 1111814784 M * Beirdo it has the real apt 1111814786 M * Beirdo :) 1111814832 M * Beirdo BUT, I can likely just copy outta the UML image I made 1111814833 M * Bertl no problem with that, if you find a repository serving the rpms ;) 1111814839 M * Beirdo how? 1111814855 M * Beirdo is apt-rpm built into the tools? 1111814865 M * Bertl no, the tools use it 1111814881 M * Beirdo as I said... no apt-rpm 1111814889 M * Beirdo ubuntu is debian-based 1111814936 M * Beirdo but I'll figure it out, it shouldn't be too hard 1111814976 M * Bertl you can also cleanup your UML images ... 1111815043 M * Beirdo the UML images as they stand should pretty much work once I copy the stuff out 1111815067 M * Bertl yeah, you need to remove hardware related stuff, or live with the errors ;) 1111815093 M * Beirdo heh. 1111815105 M * Beirdo yeah, makes sense 1111815285 M * Beirdo So I would take it you use RH or a derivative? 1111815306 M * Bertl me? yes I use a modified mandrake 1111815317 M * Beirdo I figured :) 1111815320 M * Bertl enrico (the one doing the tools) uses fc* 1111815431 M * Bertl but if you provide a good way to bootstrap rpm based distros on debian ... please go ahead ... 1111815445 M * Beirdo I'm trying to think of one 1111815455 M * Beirdo I'm sure I'll come up with something :) 1111815463 M * Bertl imho that's some existing debian deficiency 1111815471 M * Beirdo not really 1111815479 M * Beirdo that's a RH deficiency 1111815488 M * Bertl pardon? 1111815497 M * Beirdo there should be a redhatbootstrap type of thing 1111815524 M * Beirdo RH and variants do not make it easy to build a chroot setup like this unless you are already using RPM 1111815533 M * Bertl well, I see it the other way round ... because rpm based 'provide' the debootstrap, right? 1111815550 M * Beirdo heh 1111815586 M * Bertl but anyway, it's a deficiency, so if you come up with a smart solution .. all folks will be happier ;) 1111815602 M * Beirdo well, you may have a point there, but RH is the one making it hard to do. if there was an rpmbootstrap that wouldn't require RPM to be installed, it would be sweet 1111815620 M * Beirdo sure is a deficiency, whoever shares the blame :) 1111815651 M * Beirdo I can install rpm 1111815672 M * Beirdo but apt-rpm might be asking too much :) 1111815707 M * Beirdo although with feeding the CD(s), rpm alone might be enough 1111815732 N * j357 jason357 1111815751 P * monrad Leaving 1111821436 M * Beave Thought you might be interestied in this... 1111821453 M * Beave we have asterisk running on two vservers.. with standard SIP/IAX2.. no problem.. and.. 1111821478 M * Beave the ztdummy handles the conf. fine (at least so far). which, i didnt expect.. 1111821489 M * Beave very, very cool. 1111821533 M * Beirdo heh 1111821546 M * Beave very strange, but works. 1111821551 M * Beirdo you are running 2 asterisk on one physical server? why? :) 1111821555 M * Beave yeppers. 1111821566 M * Beave but the real kicker... 1111821588 M * Beave you have to load a module called "ztdummy" to emulate digium hardware. 1111821608 M * Beirdo yeah 1111821616 M * Beirdo but why would you want 2? 1111821616 M * Beave so.. we shared that between two vsevers.. with two seperate confs.. 1111821618 M * Beave worked great. 1111821619 M * Beave well. 1111821640 M * Beave we have a nice hosted box, but we have 3 people that want to do multiple things with asterisk. 1111821664 M * Beirdo should still be able to share, no? 1111821691 M * Beave well.. under vserver, asterisk works fine (SIP/IAX2) stuff.. but.. 1111821722 M * Beave in order to do conf/music on hold.. without real hardware.. 1111821734 M * Beave you load the ztdummy driver. which acts like a digium card. 1111821739 M * Beirdo I understand that part 1111821741 M * Beirdo :) 1111821755 M * Beirdo I am running asterisk in two different places :) 1111821764 M * Beave so, we loaded the ztdummy on the host.. and created the devices under the vservers.. 1111821772 M * Beave ie /dev that is. 1111821783 M * Beirdo cool 1111821798 M * Beave so.. even on one server they can "share" the ztdummy, and do conf, without conflicting with another vserver. 1111821816 M * Beave at least so far.. but we've only done limited testing. 1111821817 M * Beirdo neat 1111821843 M * Beave to be honest.. i didnt think it would really work.. but its been fine so far. 1111821907 M * Beave on this particular server there might be 4 asterisk vservers , all who want conf/moh. 1111821912 M * Beave sorta nice. 1111821955 M * Beirdo I still don't see why one instance couldn't do it 1111821962 M * Beirdo but whatever works :) 1111821965 M * Beave it would. 1111821970 M * Beave your correct.. 1111821998 M * Beave however.. pretty much people want to run there "own" asterisk server.. 1111822029 M * Beirdo heh 1111822055 M * Beave so.. basically, on this machine.. we can give "root" to xyz .. and he can setup asterisk the way he wants.. 1111822058 M * Beave see what i mean? 1111822085 M * Beirdo yeah 1111822096 M * Beave without having to setup "one" asterisk server and sharing in the conf'ing.. its a long, weird story.. 1111822099 M * Beave very fun stuff. 1111822135 M * Beirdo heh 1111822135 M * Beave I wasnt suprise that asterisk would run under each vserver, just it sharing the ztdummy is interesting to me. 1111822142 J * j357 ~m00@wv-rndhll-cmts1a-a-105.shphwv.adelphia.net 1111822156 A * Beirdo shakes his fist at his firewall 1111822179 M * Beirdo it seems to peak out at 100pps 1111822193 M * Beave anyways.. we're a bunch of phone weird'o's .. just check out http://www.telephreak.org.. 1111822196 M * Beave mang, fun fun. 1111822199 M * Beave hehe. 1111822220 M * Beave anyways.. just wanted to report that ztdummy from the host _seems_ to share with vservers fine. 1111822275 M * Bertl excellent ... have a good night everyone! 1111822281 M * Bertl cya tomorrow ... 1111822293 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1111822552 Q * jason357 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1111823075 M * Beave coooool.. stuff.. anyways.. nite all 1111823251 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-133-136.adsl.proxad.net 1111823496 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1111823520 J * erwan_ho ~erwan@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-133-136.adsl.proxad.net 1111825126 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1111825985 Q * mhepp Remote host closed the connection 1111829318 Q * erwan_ho Remote host closed the connection 1111830227 J * _jason357 ~m00@67.159.26.120 1111830234 P * j357 Leaving 1111833868 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-204-144.dclient.hispeed.ch 1111835792 Q * Vudumen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1111837897 M * Zoiah http://www.k-otik.com/exploits/20050322.pwned.c.php 1111837898 M * Zoiah http://www.k-otik.com/exploits/20050322.k-rad.c.php 1111837918 M * Zoiah I don't have time now, but maybe it's interesting what their effects are in/on vservers. (local root for <= 2.6.11) 1111837963 M * Zoiah Bertl? 1111842599 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r30s12p13.home.nbox.cz 1111845501 M * SiD3WiNDR Beirdo: it's a firewall designed for dialup? :P 1111847493 Q * albeiro Read error: Operation timed out 1111848990 J * Vudumen vudumen@perverz.hu 1111849164 N * Doener|zZz Doener 1111849184 M * Doener morning! 1111849999 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1111850010 M * Bertl morning folks! 1111850123 M * Doener morning Bertl! 1111850143 M * Bertl yo, same to you! ;) 1111850265 M * Doener i noticed some strange tavi 'feature'... http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation/SomePage 1111850296 M * Bertl hum 1111850299 M * Doener on such a page, you get a additional link in the top link bar 1111850313 M * Doener and that goes to: http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation/Documentation 1111850375 M * Doener is that some kind of sub-wiki? 1111850381 M * Bertl yeah, I see, probably a selfmade bug with the path changes I did 1111850404 M * Bertl i.e. replacing view=PageName by /PageName 1111850543 M * Bertl maybe that is/was used for the categories 1111851946 M * Hollow mornin Bertl & Doener 1111851959 M * Bertl hey Hollow! 1111851964 M * Doener hi Hollow 1111852061 M * Hollow Bertl: u're using qemu right? 1111852072 M * Bertl yup 1111852116 M * Hollow how can i connect to the serial console? i can't get SDL working on this machine so i could at least try to work with the serial consoloe... 1111852151 M * Bertl if you use --nographic then serial console is default 1111852179 M * Hollow yup, it gives me the qemu prompt, but i don't get any output 1111852187 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/ 1111852198 M * Bertl take a .config from there ... compare it to yours 1111852216 M * Hollow mhm, i.e. i need serial drivers in my kernel? 1111852255 M * Bertl for serial console, sure ;) 1111852282 M * Hollow on the host or guest? 1111852288 M * Bertl guest 1111852295 M * Hollow ah, ok... thought on the host 1111852299 M * Hollow i'll take a look, thx 1111852365 M * Bertl here is a typical invocation: 1111852366 M * Bertl qemu-0.6.1/i386/qemu-fast -nographic -L qemu-0.6.1/pc-bios -m 64 -snapshot -hda IMGs/TEST_32M.img -hdb IMGs/TEST_256M.img -kernel linux-2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5.3-bme-P1/arch/i386/boot/bzImage -append "rw root=/dev/hda1 devfs=mount" 1111852412 M * Hollow ok, thx... unfortunately qemu-fast seems not to run with nptl.. have to stick to normal qemu :/ 1111852449 M * Bertl hmm .. well ... 1111852450 A * Doener wishes that the qemu kernel module becomes gpl'ed soon 1111852462 M * Doener but i guess that will be more like "real soon now" ;) 1111852477 M * Bertl yeah? 1111852492 M * Hollow which kernel modules? i just started to use qemu to test my livecds.. 1111852523 M * Doener http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html 1111852535 M * Bertl fabrice release a 'proprietary' closed source kernel module which does what qemu-fast did just a little better ... 1111852575 A * Bertl considered this a step in the wrong direction ... 1111852600 Q * mhepp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1111852612 M * Bertl okay, I'm translocating now (well getting ready at least) 1111852630 M * Bertl Doener: could you have a look at the new stuff in http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/FOR-1.9.6/ (when you get around) 1111852693 A * Hollow feels stupid 1111852735 M * Hollow sdl works great... i just had to disable the X authentication to run it with root privs... damn 1111852806 J * mhepp ~mhepp@83.240.3.202 1111852983 M * Bertl Doener: any clues for assuming that it will be "real soon now"? 1111853024 M * Bertl ah, well, I'm off .. back later (2-3 hours) 1111853029 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1111853372 M * Doener i just have some uncertain doubts that it will happen at all... (using RSN as described here: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?RealSoonNow ) 1111853473 M * Hollow heh 1111854673 Q * MrX Remote host closed the connection 1111856238 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1111856324 Q * mhepp Quit: KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia' 1111861910 M * Beirdo argh 1111861923 M * Beirdo pkgcfgbase-dir '/var/lib/vservers/.pkg' does not exist or is invalid 1111862631 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1111862642 M * Bertl evening folks! 1111862653 M * Beirdo good evening 1111862657 M * Beirdo pkgcfgbase-dir '/var/lib/vservers/.pkg' does not exist or is invalid 1111862669 M * Beirdo any idea where that's supposed to come from? :) 1111862691 M * Beirdo trying to to a build -m rpm -- -d fc3 1111862701 M * Bertl well, a) I see your previous message ;) and b) yes that is created when you install the tools (usually) 1111862701 M * Beirdo with lots more arguments, of course 1111862717 M * Beirdo interesting 1111862735 M * Bertl but you can, of course, create it by hand ... 1111862799 M * Beirdo Ahhh 1111862811 M * Beirdo so likely something I missed in .deb-izing 1111862817 M * Bertl Doener: ahh, thanks, now I got it LOL 1111862821 M * Beirdo I see it here not 1111862823 J * DuckKing ~Duck@dyn-83-157-171-76.ppp.tiscali.fr 1111862828 M * Beirdo now rather 1111862836 M * Bertl evening DuckKing! 1111862881 M * Beirdo hah 1111862894 M * Beirdo mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist 1111862943 M * Bertl what did you do to the tools? ;) 1111862999 M * Beirdo nothing out of the ordinary 1111863252 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1111863409 M * Beirdo package setup-2.5.36-1 is for a different architecture 1111863411 M * Beirdo grrrr 1111863466 M * Bertl you are doing quite interesting stuff ... I really hope you're documenting it ;) 1111863475 M * Beirdo yeah.. 1111863488 M * Beirdo mkdir /etc/rpm seemed to shut up the mount 1111863569 M * Beirdo Uhhh 1111863587 M * Beirdo setup and tzdata are *noarch* 1111863603 M * Beirdo why is that failing? 1111863719 M * Beirdo and it's saying 1111863732 M * Beirdo *** rpm-fake-resolver was built with glibc; please do ****** not report errors before trying a dietlibc version. *** 1111863744 M * Beirdo and I didn't tell it to disable dietlibc 1111863755 M * Bertl well, looks like you didn't build the tools correctly ... 1111863803 M * Bertl if you upload the config.log I can probably tell you what went wrong 1111863822 M * Beirdo http://pastebin.ca/8285 1111863827 M * Beirdo ah, OK, one sec 1111863893 M * Beirdo http://www2.beirdo.ca/~gjhurlbu/files/config.log 1111864025 M * Bertl could you do a normal ./configure run without appending options and such? 1111864073 M * Beirdo sure. one sec 1111864137 M * Beirdo same path, config2.log 1111864143 M * Bertl tx 1111864159 M * Beirdo Use dietlibc: no (you have been warned) 1111864168 M * Beirdo that was with NO options to ./config 1111864171 M * Bertl yes, do you have dietlibc installed? 1111864183 M * Beirdo hmm, good question 1111864183 M * Bertl configure:23043: checking whether to enable dietlibc 1111864185 M * Bertl configure:23127: result: no (detected) 1111864209 M * Beirdo and where would I get that from? 1111864220 M * Bertl from your distribution provider, where else? 1111864245 M * Bertl btw, 0.30.205 is out since .. hmm two days? 1111864255 M * Beirdo hmmm 1111864262 M * Beirdo there is no dietlibc package. 1111864276 M * Bertl there is no dietlibc package in ... ? 1111864282 M * Beirdo ubuntu 1111864291 M * Bertl debian has one ... 1111864317 M * Beirdo OK, you happen to know which debian? :) 1111864327 M * Bertl I'm even better ... 1111864328 M * Bertl http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/libdevel/dietlibc-dev 1111864365 M * Bertl now worship me! (or better google ;) 1111864379 M * Beirdo hmmm. it says it's in universe?! 1111864398 M * Bertl well, I'm sure it's in the universe ;) 1111864433 M * daniel_hozac i've been required to use --enable-dietlibc in order to actually get dietlibc enabled for a while. 1111864448 M * Beirdo heh 1111864455 M * daniel_hozac i haven't had time to figure out why though. 1111864459 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, autoconf is broken? 1111864468 M * Beirdo there's no dietlibc-dev package showing, only dietlibc-doc 1111864490 M * Bertl and 'dietlibc' 1111864492 M * Beirdo dammit, they don't have it for x86_64 1111864497 M * Beirdo grrrr 1111864514 M * Bertl well, get the tar package then ;) 1111864521 M * eyck hehe 1111864522 M * Beirdo building from the source deb 1111864528 M * Bertl but make sure to apply some patches! 1111864529 M * eyck you want dietlibc for x86_64? 1111864541 M * Beirdo yes 1111864554 M * eyck ...why? 1111864556 M * Beirdo as that's what my platform is 1111864558 M * Beirdo duh 1111864593 M * eyck you've got embedded x86_64? 1111864601 M * eyck with limited memory, right? 1111864603 M * Beirdo no 1111864617 M * Beirdo I need dietlibc for vservers to work right 1111864623 M * Bertl eyck: well, dietlibc is not just for embedded platforms 1111864624 M * Beirdo and I'm running on an AMD64 1111864639 M * eyck vserver depends on dietlibc? 1111864652 M * Bertl it doesn't depend on it, but it's preferred 1111864658 M * Bertl (for security reasons) 1111864669 M * eyck Bertl: It's the target audience. I don't see much point in using dietlibc on machine with >4G RAM 1111864672 M * eyck oh? 1111864684 M * daniel_hozac i thought it was for the nss brokenness thing. 1111864690 M * eyck AFAIK dietlibc haven't been tested and audited as much as other libc outthere... 1111864718 M * eyck hmm 1111864719 M * eyck ok, 1111864720 M * Bertl yes, it's not so much the dietlibc tested part, than the compiled static part 1111864727 M * eyck sorry, I'm talking about uclibc 1111864738 M * eyck which I wouldn't use for security reasons, 1111864752 Q * grecea Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1111864794 M * eyck but still, if you fix your code so that it compiles with dietlibc, it should be safer even on glibc 1111864842 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1111864870 M * eyck ?huh 1111864882 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1111864907 M * Bertl eyck: well, enrico 'fixed' the code to compile with dietlibc, that's why it uses dietlibc after all ... LOL 1111864955 M * Beirdo OK, trying again with dietlibc 1111864963 M * Beirdo after forcing it to build that deb 1111865117 M * Beirdo OK 1111865125 M * Beirdo it's not bitching about the dietlibc now 1111865141 M * Beirdo but it still won't install the setup and tzinfo packages 1111865155 M * Bertl check with debug, but I guess your rpm is to blame 1111865162 M * Beirdo sorry, tzdata 1111865166 M * Bertl --debug 1111865181 M * Beirdo I am running --debug 1111865190 M * Beirdo it doesn't say anything useful to me 1111865192 M * Bertl k, then please upload the output ;) 1111865199 Q * eyck Quit: leaving 1111865211 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1111865219 M * Bertl wb eyck! *G* 1111865232 M * eyck hey! old-times are back! 1111865238 P * eyck 1111865238 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1111865247 M * Bertl welcome eyck! *GG* 1111865255 M * eyck interesting effect... 1111865270 M * eyck GG - good game. 1111865335 M * Beirdo OK. same dir... debug.out 1111865362 M * Beirdo including the command line 1111865413 M * Bertl k, please try 1111865418 M * Bertl /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver-build -n fc-build -m rpm --hostname fc-build.uml.beirdo.ca --netdev eth0 --interface fcbuild=eth0:192.168.1.137/24 --force -- -d fc3 -b /opt/fc3-x86_64/Fedora/RPMS 1111865422 M * Bertl -d fc3 -b /opt/fc3-x86_64/Fedora/RPMS -- 1111865424 M * Bertl with --debug 1111865444 M * Beirdo like put the --debug after the --? 1111865449 M * daniel_hozac ah, so the reason util-vserver didn't find dietlibc automatically was the lack of which... 1111865455 M * Bertl no, like put it after /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver-build 1111865480 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: you are kidding me? 1111865483 M * Beirdo ahhh 1111865487 M * Beirdo one sec 1111865515 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: no, it's not pulled in by anything when you're doing a minimal install of Fedora anymore. 1111865551 M * Bertl 20:13 < daniel_hozac> i've been required to use --enable-dietlibc in order to 1111865551 M * Bertl actually get dietlibc enabled for a while. 1111865559 M * Bertl and this did work? 1111865564 M * daniel_hozac yes, that's the odd part. 1111865575 M * Bertl very interesting indeed ... 1111865597 M * Beirdo OK, debug2.out 1111865620 M * Bertl tx 1111865640 M * Beirdo Ooops, left the --debug after the -- too 1111865642 M * Beirdo heh 1111865654 M * Bertl np 1111865670 M * Bertl /usr/sbin/vrpm fc-build -- -U -vh /tmp/vserver-build.rpm.manifest.aClWrf <-- this is what fails ... 1111865673 M * daniel_hozac ah, i see. --enable-dietlibc forces dietlibc usage, without checking if it's actually present :) 1111865712 M * Bertl Beirdo: now that is just a wrapper of your rpm command, doing the steps _inside_ the vserver 1111865759 M * Bertl so I would suggest to 'slightly' modify the build script to leave the manifest intact 1111865967 M * Beirdo done 1111865973 M * Beirdo got 4 files in it 1111866024 M * Beirdo filesystem-*.rpm setup-*.rpm tzdata-*.rpm glibc-common-*.rpm 1111866054 M * Beirdo with the proper path of course 1111866055 M * Bertl okay, they are the seed packages to pull in the rest 1111866065 M * Beirdo OK. 1111866078 M * Bertl now try to remove the two giving you issues 1111866104 M * Bertl and execute 1111866119 M * Bertl /usr/sbin/vrpm fc-build -- -U -vh /tmp/vserver-build.rpm.manifest 1111866142 M * Bertl (btw, didn't see the file is listed in the debug output ;) 1111866177 M * Beirdo if I remove those two files, it says they are needed for the others 1111866230 M * Bertl well, then it's simply the rpm not understanding that noarch is compatible for your arch 1111866237 M * Beirdo must be 1111866243 M * Bertl probably a config issue 1111866258 M * Bertl did you install the rpm files properly (macros and such)? 1111866267 M * Beirdo apt-get install rpm 1111866271 M * Beirdo hell if I know :) 1111866343 M * Bertl could you list the files of that package for me? 1111866353 M * Beirdo of the rpm package? 1111866354 M * Beirdo sure 1111866396 M * Beirdo rpm.filelist 1111866477 M * Bertl /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc 1111866491 M * Bertl look for buildarch_compat 1111866495 M * Bertl and add a line: 1111866503 M * Bertl buildarch_compat: x86_64: noarch 1111866542 M * Bertl (I hope ubuntu does call your arch x86_64 ;) 1111866557 M * Beirdo aHA 1111866558 M * Beirdo that's it 1111866563 M * Beirdo yes, it does 1111866581 M * Bertl and complain to the rpm package maintainer ;) 1111866586 M * Beirdo they had nothing in there 1111866590 M * Beirdo for that arch 1111866594 M * Beirdo will do :) 1111866646 M * Beirdo hmm 1111866649 M * Beirdo still bitching 1111866661 N * _jason357 Jason357 1111866697 M * Bertl uname -m 1111866715 M * Beirdo x86_64 1111866725 M * Beirdo it's likely something else missing from the rpmrc 1111866727 M * Bertl does that have an entry like this somewhere? 1111866733 M * Bertl arch_canon: x86_64: x86_64 17 1111866747 M * Beirdo nope 1111866752 M * Beirdo ends at 16 1111866771 M * Bertl and no x86_64 ;) 1111866772 M * Beirdo does now :) 1111866782 M * Beirdo still no go 1111866797 M * Bertl you are trying with the full manifest now, I hope? 1111866818 M * Bertl (or better with the originial install) 1111866823 M * Beirdo yes 1111866835 M * Bertl same result? 1111866860 M * Bertl buildarchtranslate: x86_64: x86_64 1111866870 M * Beirdo we forgot arch_compay 1111866873 M * Beirdo compat :) 1111866880 M * Beirdo we did buildarch_compat 1111866883 M * Bertl arch_compat: x86_64: athlon noarch 1111866891 M * Bertl yeah, just found it ;) 1111866902 M * Bertl optflags: x86_64 -O2 -pipe 1111866902 M * Bertl arch_canon:x86_64:x86_6417 1111866902 M * Bertl buildarchtranslate: x86_64: x86_64 1111866902 M * Bertl arch_compat: x86_64: athlon noarch 1111866902 M * Bertl buildarch_compat: x86_64: noarch 1111866906 M * Beirdo thar she blows 1111866918 M * Beirdo oooh, nice 1111866953 M * Beirdo 3:filesystem ########################################### [ 75%] 1111866953 M * Beirdo error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/X11;4245be11: cpio: symlink failed - No such file or directory 1111866975 M * Beirdo then a pile of 1111866977 M * Beirdo rpmdb: /var/lib/vservers/fc-build/var/tmp: No such file or directory 1111866977 M * Beirdo rpmdb: unable to create temporary backing file 1111866999 M * Beirdo WTF did they break in RPM? :) 1111867008 M * Bertl try to remove the entire vserver dir 1111867016 M * Bertl and start from the beginning ... 1111867017 M * Beirdo yeah 1111867023 M * Beirdo sounds like a plan 1111867034 M * Bertl will probably not change that much .. 1111867045 M * Beirdo hah 1111867047 M * Bertl but better to try than to regret afterwards ;) 1111867061 M * Beirdo something chmodded /var/lib/vservers to 000 1111867081 M * SiD3WiNDR I was thinking linux kernel had an IM system builtin when I saw /proc/buddyinfo :p 1111867087 M * Bertl guess who was that, your friendly vserver-debiantools package ;) 1111867101 M * SiD3WiNDR it didn't do that here though? :P 1111867103 M * SiD3WiNDR hmm 1111867105 M * SiD3WiNDR or did it 1111867106 M * Beirdo wonder how long it's been like that 1111867131 M * Beirdo same shit 1111867167 M * Bertl please upload the output ... 1111867174 M * Bertl SiD3WiNDR: IM system? 1111867213 M * SiD3WiNDR instant messaging ;) 1111867229 M * Beirdo debug3.out 1111867229 M * SiD3WiNDR ala icq 1111867248 M * Bertl ah, i.c. ;) 1111867283 M * Beirdo this is from FC3 CDs copied onto the HD, BTW 1111867359 M * Bertl well, the filesystem package seems to fail ... 1111867380 M * Bertl error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/X11;4245bf38: cpio: symlink failed - No such file or directory 1111867391 M * Beirdo yep. now why would that fail... hmmm 1111867422 M * Bertl do you have a fc3 at hand? 1111867428 M * Bertl *fc2 even 1111867435 M * Beirdo no, plenty of FC1 though 1111867461 M * Bertl okay, try to sneak in the fc1 filesystem rpm 1111867491 M * Beirdo hmm. 1111867496 M * Beirdo have to find the CDs 1111867508 M * Bertl o download it 1111867508 M * Beirdo this was right off the FC3 cd image though 1111867517 M * Beirdo wonder if it's just corrupt 1111867519 M * Bertl for fc2, it's pretty small 1111867538 M * Beirdo gimme a sec, it's easy, I have all the CD images on the fileserver 1111867549 M * Bertl it might be that fc3 creates a few dirs upfront ... 1111867564 M * Bertl though latest tools should work with fc3 ... 1111867700 M * Beirdo same thing 1111867737 M * Bertl which tool version are you using right now? 1111867737 M * Beirdo with FC2 i386 filesystem package 1111867744 M * Beirdo 0.30.204 1111867753 M * Bertl ah, could you try 205 ... 1111867763 M * Bertl (somehow got the idea you are already using that ;) 1111867768 M * Beirdo I guess that could be arranged :) 1111867836 M * Beirdo hmm 1111867840 M * Beirdo where is it linked? 1111867878 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/~ensc/util-vserver/files/alpha/util-vserver-0.30.205.tar.bz2 1111867916 M * Beirdo tx 1111868034 M * Beirdo saw something flash by about decrypt not found or something? 1111868045 M * Bertl beecrypt 1111868061 M * Beirdo ahh. it was flying by so fast I couldn't really catch it 1111868065 M * Bertl it's used for the new vhashify 1111868170 M * Beirdo can I do without it? 1111868188 M * Bertl yep, just the vhashify will not be built 1111868236 M * Beirdo OK 1111868342 M * Beirdo same thing 1111868407 N * Doener Doener|gone 1111868481 M * Bertl well, no idea ... 1111868500 M * Beirdo and I need food :) 1111868520 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure it is somehow related to your rpm (or maybe the cpio?) 1111868532 M * Beirdo could well be, I think you are right 1111868635 M * Beirdo of course, it's a way old RPM 1111868636 M * Beirdo 4.0.4 1111868639 M * Beirdo jeez 1111868656 M * Beirdo OK, let's try an FC1 filesystem RPM before I go for food 1111868761 M * Beirdo nope 1111868767 M * Beirdo sucks 1111868782 M * Beirdo well I'll pound on this more again later. Thanks for the help :) 1111868835 M * Bertl you#re welcome! 1111869000 M * SiD3WiNDR hehe 1111870344 Q * lilo Quit: bbiab, flash bios upgrade [!!] 1111871534 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1111871614 M * Bertl wb lilo! successful with the bios update? 1111872545 Q * Jason357 Remote host closed the connection 1111873397 J * Jason357 ~m00@67.159.26.120 1111873478 Q * Jason357 Remote host closed the connection 1111873758 J * jason357 ~m00@67.159.26.120 1111873999 Q * jason357 Remote host closed the connection 1111874441 Q * lilo Read error: Operation timed out 1111874636 J * Jason357 ~m00@67.159.26.120 1111874655 M * Bertl Jason357: havin issues with your provider? 1111874699 M * Jason357 having some issues... 1111875764 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1111877249 N * Doener|gone Doener 1111877259 M * Bertl wb Doener! 1111877557 J * jim_ ~jim@ip68-9-97-23.ri.ri.cox.net 1111877558 Q * jd86 Read error: Connection reset by peer