1109376385 Q * matta Quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? 1109377127 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1109380975 M * jd86 where is there a tutorial on a debian vserver? 1109380980 M * jd86 not debian host but debian "client" 1109381072 M * shuri http://www.lycos-vds.com/dists/debian30-2004082703.tar.bz2 1109381089 M * shuri extract it 1109381092 M * shuri and that it 1109381291 M * jd86 yea but what style init is it? 1109381297 M * jd86 thats wha ti'm stuck at 1109381575 M * Doener either plain or sysv 1109381592 M * jd86 where is all this stuff documented anywho? 1109381595 M * jd86 so i can stop asking 1109381912 M * Doener what exactly? 1109381928 M * Doener initstyle depends on the distro and your personal preferences... 1109381988 M * jd86 I am sorry but i been having quite the trubble getting this vserver stuff to work, once i ask and someone tells me then it works fine but documentation for this is making this very hard :( 1109382048 M * Doener if you don't like the documentation, please try to improve it, when you get something to work, after all it's a wiki 1109382059 M * jd86 oh i was planning on doing so 1109382064 M * jd86 but i'm still getting things to work 1109382079 M * jd86 and i _just_ found this http://dev.gentoo.org/~hollow/vserver/guide/ and its becomming a great reasource 1109383637 M * jd86 ok, one more question how do you limit cpu usage and memory usage by vserver? or is this not possible 1109383683 M * Doener memory usage can be limited through rlimits 1109383696 M * Doener cpu usage can be limited using the hard cpu scheduler 1109383712 M * jd86 Doener: where and how would i set such things (point me to a doc ifyou want) 1109383716 M * Doener http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1109383730 M * Doener (you probably want to choose one of the other css styles ;) 1109383758 M * Doener searching for rlimits you should find: 1109383764 M * Doener # 1109383764 M * Doener * 1109383764 M * Doener o 1109383764 M * Doener # /etc/vservers/vserver-name/rlimits 1109383766 M * Doener A directory with resource limits. Possible resources are cpu, fsize, data, stack, core, rss, nproc, nofile, memlock, as and locks. This configuration will be honored for kernel 2.6 only. 1109383785 M * Doener (cpu is not what you want, it limits the maximum execution time in total ;) 1109383798 M * Doener memory usage can be limited using rss 1109383804 M * jd86 sounds complciated? 1109383817 M * Doener it isn't too complicated 1109383833 M * Doener below the directory description you see 4 file descriptions 1109383850 M * Doener the "resource" in the filename is to be replaced with the resource you want to limit 1109383862 M * Doener if you wnat to limit the rss size (using a hard limit) 1109383882 M * Doener you would create a file called /etc/vservers//rlimits/rss.hard 1109383905 M * Doener and put a line containing the limit into the file, f.e. 1024 or whatever 1109383919 M * Doener the numbers are the same as for bash's ulimit 1109383926 M * jd86 is thsi memory or cpu here? 1109384019 M * jd86 whats something i can test the limit with? 1109384460 M * jd86 ? 1109386251 M * Doener lost connection... 1109391709 Q * shuri Quit: 1109393032 N * Doener Doener_zZz 1109393226 J * nox- ~nox@213.39.193.211 1109393554 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109393587 N * nox- nox 1109394411 J * IrishKitty freemadi@yoda.bowerham.net 1109394437 M * IrishKitty can anyone tell me where I can find the patches for 2.6.8 for the vserver? 1109397632 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1109397632 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1109407791 Q * flock Read error: Connection reset by peer 1109407812 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz 1109408274 Q * lilo Quit: 1109408621 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1109409573 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1109412924 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1109414557 Q * mhepp Quit: mhepp caught signal: Autobus error 1109420786 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1109420825 M * Bertl morning folks! 1109420842 M * Bertl IrishKitty: hmm, why are you looking forpatches for an outdated kernel? 1109420842 M * Loki|muh morning bertl 1109420852 M * Bertl hey Loki|muh! 1109421028 M * DaPhreak mornin Bertl :) 1109421046 M * Bertl hey DaPhreak! 1109421068 M * DaPhreak hehe Bertl, that kernel isn't that out-dated ;) SuSE seems to use it ;) *lol* 1109421170 M * Bertl well, I'd say suse uses an heavily patched version of that one, right? 1109421189 M * Bertl (if not, I'd upgrade immediatey ;) 1109421218 M * DaPhreak yeah, heavly might be the right word 1109421237 A * DaPhreak is far away form using SuSE 1109421238 M * DaPhreak heh 1109423090 Q * anonymous-coward Read error: Operation timed out 1109427457 Q * flock Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109427755 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1109427929 M * Bertl wb flock! 1109428271 Q * flock Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109429466 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1109430517 Q * ndim Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109430671 N * Doener_zZz Doener 1109430678 M * Bertl morning Doener! 1109430685 M * Doener morning #vserver! 1109430712 M * Doener morning Bertl 1109430718 M * Doener *yawns* 1109430768 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109430776 Q * DaPhreak Quit: Reconnecting 1109430789 J * DaPhreak ~DaPhreak@pc-outside.uni-greifswald.de 1109430798 J * ndim hun@helena.bawue.de 1109430820 M * Bertl wb ndim! 1109430825 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1109430832 M * Bertl wb sladen! 1109431172 J * shuri ~shuri@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1109431180 M * shuri morning 1109431205 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection 1109431241 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1109431244 M * Bertl morning shuri! 1109431301 M * shuri hello Bertl 1109431319 M * shuri http://images.amazon.com/images/P/157870233X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg 1109431359 M * shuri i bought this 1109431408 M * Bertl hmm, going BGP now? 1109431419 M * shuri yes 1109431440 M * Bertl I mean are you peering with some other providers/whatever or just learning that stuff? 1109431453 M * shuri multihomed 1109431461 M * shuri 2 ISP 1109431640 M * shuri just wounder if quagga is a good solution for prod 1109432307 Q * shuri Remote host closed the connection 1109432318 J * shuri ~shuri@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1109432873 J * prae ~prae@sherpadown.net 1109432882 M * Bertl welcome prae! 1109432900 M * prae hi Bertl 1109433264 Q * DaCa oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1109433264 Q * Snow-Man oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1109433264 Q * Bertl oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1109433264 J * Bertl ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at 1109433268 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1109433275 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1109433963 M * Bertl okay, off for dinenr now ... 1109433987 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1109434725 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection 1109434757 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1109435781 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1109435788 M * Bertl back now ... 1109436214 M * Bertl Doener: any new clues regarding the ssh-cutoff issue? 1109436246 M * Doener no, still need to figure out more about ngnet and probably networking in general 1109436313 M * Bertl the primary question is: does ngnet do the right thing, or is it really a bug() 1109436740 M * Doener yeah, and to answer that i'll have to find out how the networking really works, i just have some general ideas about it atm 1109436764 M * Doener i'm off now, gf is here 1109436767 M * Doener cya! 1109436768 M * Bertl did you try with screen or something like that yet? 1109436776 M * Bertl send greetings! 1109436827 M * Doener i tried to try with netcat, but my box died while doing so (not vserver related ;) 1109436891 N * Doener Doener_gone 1109438111 M * prae I have a strange problem : 1109438113 M * prae root@carbone:/etc/vservers# vserver mysql start 1109438114 M * prae capset(): Operation not permitted 1109438114 M * prae capabilities are not enabled in kernel-setup 1109438173 M * Bertl please retry with --debug and upload the output somewhere (e.g. pastebin.com) 1109438179 M * prae ok 1109438234 M * prae http://pastebin.com/246624 1109438239 M * Bertl tx 1109438298 M * Bertl well, seems like enrico did add an intelligent check here ... 1109438315 M * Bertl so, are your linux-capabilities enabled? 1109438371 M * prae How I can check that? 1109438374 M * prae # /usr/local/util-vserver//sbin/vserver-info - VERIFYCAP 1109438374 M * prae capset(): Operation not permitted 1109438401 M * Bertl grep CAP .config (with the kernel config) 1109438407 M * prae wait 1109438511 Q * shuri Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109438558 M * prae CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=m <-- hmm! 1109438615 M * Bertl which isn't the best idea, unless you load them at the very start of your boot process 1109438863 M * prae I try to recompile my kernel with this option in static mode 1109438866 M * prae thx berni 1109438868 M * prae oups 1109438870 M * prae thx Bertl 1109438877 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1109438964 J * shuri ~shuri@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1109438971 M * Bertl wb shuri! 1109439044 M * shuri re 1109440473 Q * shuri Read error: Operation timed out 1109441937 J * shuri sjnesjd@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1109442107 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1109442494 J * prae ~prae@sherpadown.net 1109443892 Q * prae Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109444632 Q * shuri Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109446018 J * DuckMaster ~Duck@dyn-83-157-191-190.ppp.tiscali.fr 1109446283 M * IrishKitty Bertl: why is 2.6.8 an old kernel? 1109446290 M * IrishKitty I can only find patches for 2.6.3 1109446340 M * Bertl hmm, where are you looking? 1109446354 M * IrishKitty 13th soemthing or other 1109446440 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/d_rel26/v1.9.4/ 1109446461 Q * DuckKing Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1109446470 M * IrishKitty aaah 1109446479 M * IrishKitty was looking in the wrong place 1109446481 M * IrishKitty thank you 1109446481 M * Bertl there are also patches for 2.6.11-rc5 1109446503 M * Bertl they are kept here: 1109446505 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1109446530 M * IrishKitty okies 1109446532 M * IrishKitty thank you 1109446536 J * prae ~prae@sherpadown.net 1109446551 M * prae !back ! 1109446573 M * prae another strange problem 1109446575 M * prae kernel BUG at include/linux/vs_context.h:64! 1109446575 M * prae invalid operand: 0000 [#5] 1109446576 M * prae :( 1109446613 M * prae http://www.pastebin.com/246695 1109446679 M * Bertl hmm, that is an intentional bug() let me check that ... sec 1109446715 M * prae ok, no prob' 1109447325 M * Bertl sorry had to dig out my 2.6.10 kernel first ;) 1109447367 M * prae ok :p 1109447384 M * Bertl interesting ... that means that a socket was assigned an xid 'twice' 1109447422 M * Bertl do you ahve the kernel soruce at hand? 1109447428 M * prae yes 1109447457 M * Bertl try 'addr2line -e vmlinux c0242cd0 1109447492 M * prae ok 1109447503 M * prae root@carbone:/usr/src/linux-2.6.10# addr2line -e vmlinux c0242cd0 1109447504 M * prae ??:0 1109447520 M * Bertl hmm, okay, so no debug info compiled in :/ 1109447541 M * Bertl what did you do when that happened? 1109447553 M * Bertl ifconfiguring an x25 device? 1109447556 M * prae simple exec "ifconfig" into a vserver 1109447591 M * Bertl you mean you can reproduce that? 1109447593 J * hillct ~hillct@client200-5.dsl.intrex.net 1109447600 M * Bertl welcome hillct! 1109447611 M * hillct Bertl hi 1109447621 M * prae Bertl: yes, i can 1109447642 M * prae root@sql:/# /sbin/ifconfig 1109447642 M * Bertl well, that's excellent then ;) 1109447643 M * prae Segmentation fault 1109447685 M * prae /bin/ip addr works perfectly, so ... it's not a problem with kernel 1109447698 M * prae just with ifconfig 1109447706 M * Bertl it _is_ a problem with the kernel .. 1109447728 M * Bertl something which I think should not happen, actually happens ... 1109447778 M * prae maybe ... a minimal proc ? 1109447830 M * hillct I'm trying to understand the network mechanism utilized by vservers. If i want to sftp from one vserver ot another on the same box (as opposed to copying the data across the filesystems) what would I need to do to the network configuration to insure the host box didn't run these packats across the network and instead just routed from vserver A to vserver B? 1109447836 M * prae maybe, ifconfig doesn't like this 1109447877 M * hillct I'm asking this before using the trial and error approach since I didn't find documentation that was really on point for this issue 1109447881 M * Bertl hillct: this will be done automatically, it's a 'local' connection to the host (so network yes, but only inside the host) 1109447905 M * Bertl (i.e. it will not leave the hosts nic) 1109447937 M * hillct nice 1109447944 M * hillct automatic loopback 1109447946 M * hillct cool 1109447965 M * Bertl it is a result of the way linux-vserver works, network wise ... 1109447970 J * shuri sjnesjd@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1109447973 M * hillct This was one of those things I was concerned about because I didn't want it to count against my colo provider's bandwidth allocation 1109447977 M * Bertl prae: the x25 looks strange to me ... 1109448064 M * Bertl prae: could you look for older kernel messages? 1109448177 M * prae hmm, I haven't another kernel 1109448180 M * prae sorry :( 1109448209 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1109448216 M * hillct Bertl thanks for the help 1109448225 M * Bertl prae: hmm, no, what I meant was, for similar oops messages from the _same_ kernel 1109448230 M * Bertl hillct: you're welcome! 1109448267 M * Bertl prae: I suspect you get such a kernel message whenever you start ifconfig (inside a vserver) 1109448327 M * prae each time to start ifconfig, it segfault and oops message appears 1109448346 M * Bertl yes, and the message appears where? 1109448364 M * prae in syslog into MAIN sys 1109448405 M * Bertl okay, so could you scan the syslog and collect all those oopses for me? 1109448421 M * Bertl (I#m especially interested in the first one since system boot) 1109448429 M * prae ok, no prob, wait 1109448501 M * Bertl take your time, no need to hurry ... 1109448514 M * prae http://www.pastebin.com/246713 1109448537 M * prae first system boot (with vs) and each oops messages 1109448550 M * Bertl tx 1109448574 M * prae u're welcome 1109448638 M * Bertl okay, that looks really x25 specific ... do you have some 'special' entwork devices to use that? 1109448659 M * prae no special network devices 1109448692 M * Bertl do you use x25? how? 1109448706 M * Bertl I'm trying to reproduce the issue here ... 1109448895 M * prae execpt error; no, I don't use x25 1109448909 M * prae but my x25 module is loaded and used 1109448917 M * prae "x25 42772 80" 1109448963 M * Bertl okay, so I assume that using it here should suffice ... 1109448995 M * prae I trying to unload this module and retry start ifconfig into vs 1109449010 M * Bertl good idea 1109449078 M * prae groumf .. i can't remove this module :\ 1109449098 M * prae rmmod is lost in space :\ 1109449160 M * prae arg! ... I'll be back 1109449165 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1109449199 P * hillct 1109449365 J * prae ~prae@sherpadown.net 1109449374 M * prae *back* 1109449409 M * Bertl w/o x25? 1109449465 M * prae what's the f*k !!! ... before start X : no x25 ... I start X ... x25 is here :-\ 1109449517 M * prae rmmod already lost in space ... 1109449533 M * prae so ... I'll be back :| 1109449534 Q * prae Quit: 1109449843 J * matta ~matta@69.93.28.254 1109450015 J * prae ~prae@sherpadown.net 1109450029 M * Bertl welcome matta! 1109450034 M * Bertl wb prae! 1109450037 M * prae :p 1109450039 M * prae so ! 1109450064 M * prae I saved all lsmod stack into file : 1109450066 M * prae after_ifconfig_into_vs after_start_vs after_x before_x 1109450083 M * prae # grep "^x25 " * 1109450083 M * prae after_ifconfig_into_vs:x25 42772 2 1109450086 M * prae !!! 1109450105 M * prae when i start ifconfig into vs, ifconfig load x25 module ^o_O 1109450132 M * Bertl yup, I can reproduce it ehre! 1109450162 M * Bertl x25 causes this, now we'll se what eactly is broken .. guess we found an x25 bug ;) 1109450173 M * prae arf ;) 1109450180 M * Bertl chcontext ifconfig -a 1109450180 M * Bertl New security context is 49152 1109450180 M * Bertl ------------[ cut here ]------------ 1109450180 M * Bertl kernel BUG at include/linux/vs_context.h:64! 1109450306 M * prae root@carbone:/root/lsmod# chcontext ifconfig -a 1109450306 M * prae New security context is 49155 1109450306 M * prae /usr/local/util-vserver/sbin/chcontext: line 168: 5725 Segmentation fault "${create_cmd[@]}" "${chain_cmd[@]}" -- "${migrate_cmd[@]}" --endsetup --migrate-self -- "$@" 1109450307 M * prae me too 1109450430 M * prae Bertl: your x25 module is loaded ? 1109450442 Q * DaCa Server closed connection 1109450453 M * Bertl it's compiled into the kernel now ;) 1109450460 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1109450493 M * prae arf! ok :p 1109450540 M * Bertl elt's see if a recent kernel does the same, (will take a little) 1109450841 M * Bertl prae: yep still present in 2.6.11-rc5/vs1.9.4.8 .. I#ll investigate 1109450880 M * prae this bug is present into 2.6.11-rc5 ?! ouch, bad :| 1109450977 M * prae threaded question, how ifconfig can be load this modules ? :| 1109450991 Q * shuri Read error: Connection reset by peer 1109451087 M * Bertl userspace requests something (e.g. x25 or so), kernel tries to load the module on demand .. module gets loaded .. voila ;) 1109451156 M * prae :p 1109451404 M * prae I thought that into vserver, we could not load modules or something in kernel ? 1109451417 M * prae (~capabilities) 1109451438 M * Bertl you can not load them explicitely, but services (i.e. modules) configured on the host, will be available on demand 1109451467 M * Bertl it is basically vserver-userspace -> kernel -> host-userspace (load modules) 1109451613 M * prae an hacker can't used this way to hack entirely system ? (MAIN include) 1109451634 M * Bertl only if he can replace modules on your host ... 1109451653 M * Bertl (and for security concerned folks, I'd suggest to disable module loading anyway) 1109451668 M * prae it's true :) 1109452247 Q * Snow-Man Server closed connection 1109452259 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1109452720 J * zimdog ~zimdog@c-67-164-190-201.client.comcast.net 1109452731 M * Bertl welcome zimdog! 1109452740 M * zimdog hell Bretl 1109452810 M * zimdog is there a help bot on here? 1109452822 M * Bertl hmm, no, what do you need? 1109452827 M * prae Bertl: I don't found this, but, have you a url with complete parameters for vserver build ? 1109452849 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1109452857 M * Bertl welcome jsambrook! 1109452858 M * zimdog I am brand new to vserver and trying to find getting started info. I have been on several websites and am getting confused 1109452866 M * Bertl prae: hmm, what do you have in mind? 1109452903 M * Bertl zimdog: linux-vserver.org (as the topic says) 1109452950 M * prae example, "vserver mysql build -m debootstrap --hostname host.domain.tld --interface ip ..." I try to find a page with others possibles parameters 1109452967 M * prae manpage is incomplete or old 1109452970 M * daniel_hozac prae: vserver help build --help ? 1109452989 M * Bertl yep, and http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1109453031 M * prae oh ... thank you :p 1109453168 M * prae oO( I had to try read help directly without "build --help" parameter :p ) 1109453288 M * zimdog Bretl: Thanks I have been through most on this site. I actually followed the instructions on setting up the server with fc1 . I am using centos34 and have installed tyhe base vserver stuff. I am looking more for how to create and deploy the guest images. Also was hoping to find a nice clean main server image to start with so I know I have everything setup correctly. 1109453352 M * Bertl you should have a look at the alpha util-vserver page too, it shows how to create new vservers 1109453403 Q * Bertl Server closed connection 1109453407 J * Bertl ~herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at 1109453449 M * Bertl hmm, network seems especially stable today ;) 1109453507 M * zimdog How does one use the Vserver System Images? 1109453586 M * Bertl you unpack them, then create a config by hand or the other way round first a skeleton vserver (with the proper config) and then unpack the image in place 1109453668 M * zimdog Is the system Image a generic image for the main server? 1109453680 M * Bertl what do you mean by 'main server'? 1109453696 M * zimdog The real server that runs the vservers 1109453709 M * Bertl you have to isntall your 'normal' distro there 1109453760 M * zimdog Ok the way it was labeled as Vserver system Images and vserver guest images. I thought hte system images were real server images. 1109453770 M * zimdog What is the preffered distro 1109453789 M * Bertl the one you like best of course ;) 1109453804 M * Bertl no seriously, it should be fairly distro agnostic 1109453830 M * Bertl of course some stuff has special dependancies which are not easily satisfied 1109453839 M * zimdog Has anyone created an ISO that can be burned that will set this all up yet 1109453843 M * Bertl for example getting a working rpm on debian is not easy 1109453882 M * zimdog I usually use Mandrake but was thinking centos would be best for this 1109453912 M * zimdog Bertl: Are you one of the developers? 1109453922 M * Bertl yes, kernel side here 1109453996 M * zimdog Is the freeVPS built off of this 1109454014 M * Bertl it branched a long time ago ... 1109454103 M * zimdog Does their H-SPHERE software still work with it? 1109454148 M * Bertl no idea, probably not, I guess it's VPS specific ... 1109454180 M * zimdog is openvps connected with this still? 1109454229 M * Bertl yes, but it looks dormant everytime I look there ... 1109454261 M * Bertl (but news say, they moved to 1.9.x version in october) 1109454269 M * zimdog So configuration of vserver is pretty much the command line tools I take it 1109454282 M * Bertl atm, probably ... 1109454349 M * zimdog I am looking at using this with asterisk and noted there was a problem but that it looks like it is still workable anyone using this currentlY? 1109454410 M * Bertl yes, I remember somebody reporting it working (with some caps) 1109454582 M * zimdog Is there a forum for this project? 1109454617 M * Bertl there is a mailing list ... and the irc channel 1109454942 J * rusty`` rusty_@3e44b894.adsl.enternet.hu 1109454947 M * rusty`` hello folks 1109454970 M * zimdog Thanks for the help. Guess I need to do some more reading. Once i get up to speed I would be interested in helping with this project by maybe creating or updating newbie documentation or maybe an ISO that users can download to get it setup quick 1109454999 M * Bertl sure, especially documentation would be appreciated ... 1109455072 Q * jsambrook Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1109455099 M * rusty`` i have a little problem: how can i use the screen program in vserver envirement? /dev/pts/ is incomplete... :( 1109455127 M * Bertl you can use it perfectly fine inside and outside a vserver, just not between the doors 1109455145 M * Bertl i.e. when you do vserver enter 1109455162 M * Bertl then your 'original' pts is outside the vserver, but your bash is inside 1109455179 M * Bertl in this case, you will not be able to modify the pts ... 1109455200 M * rusty`` can i use screen "inside"? 1109455205 M * Bertl yes 1109455222 M * Bertl just ssh into the vserver (for example) and screen will work fine 1109455240 M * rusty`` hm 1109455311 M * rusty`` "no more PTY's"... :( 1109455339 M * rusty`` does not works for me.. 1109455366 M * rusty`` but the /dev/pts filesystem is exist.. 1109455373 M * rusty`` i don't unterstand... 1109455431 M * rusty`` just in root envirement does work... 1109455576 M * Bertl ah, no more ptys? 1109455592 M * Bertl could be that you exhausted the global pty limit? 1109455624 M * Bertl or maybe another related limit like the open files? 1109455681 M * rusty`` hm, i don't know :( 1109455734 M * rusty`` i didn't believe it.. 1109455774 M * rusty`` how can i this check? 1109455777 M * Bertl okay, let's check the kernel logs, maybe there are some entries 1109455793 M * Bertl also check /proc/virtual//limit (of your vserver) 1109456030 M * rusty`` challenger:/etc/vservers# cat /proc/virtual/49155/limit 1109456030 M * rusty`` PROC: 52 77 -1 0 1109456030 M * rusty`` VM: 550983 663909 -1 0 1109456030 M * rusty`` VML: 0 0 -1 0 1109456030 M * rusty`` RSS: 182893 213335 -1 0 1109456031 M * rusty`` FILES: 1261 1536 -1 0 1109456031 M * rusty`` SOCK: 85 93 -1 0 1109456142 M * Bertl okay, any messages in the kernel log? 1109456247 M * rusty`` hm, nothing.. 1109456503 M * rusty`` is there a big problem, doctor? :) 1109456523 M * Bertl well, not unless you can reproduce this with a recent kernel ;) 1109456615 M * rusty`` i have a linux kernel 2.6.10 with vserver patch 1.9.4-rc1 1109456638 M * Bertl could you try if that happens on every server, or just on one specific? 1109456647 M * Bertl *vserver that is 1109456682 Q * sladen Server closed connection 1109456692 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1109456721 M * rusty`` in another vserver missing the all of /dev/pts/... :( 1109456730 M * rusty`` interesting.. 1109456751 M * Bertl hmm ... 1109456769 M * Bertl now I'd start looking for some rootkit ;) 1109456853 M * rusty`` is it abnormal? 1109456876 M * Bertl well, /dev/pts should be in any vserver right? 1109456886 M * rusty`` that the /dev/pts is empty? 1109456893 M * rusty`` yes 1109456898 M * Bertl ah, it's just empty, okay that's fine 1109456925 M * rusty`` yeah, empty :) 1109456945 M * Bertl and does it work there? 1109457009 M * Bertl also could you please do an 'strace -fF' on the screen command inside the vserver where it fails? and upload that somewhere (e.g. pastebin.com)? 1109457345 M * rusty`` http://www.ragnarok.hu/bertl.log 1109457353 M * Bertl tx 1109457494 J * tmAtOR ~nobody@bonnefoy-3-82-224-104-94.fbx.proxad.net 1109457499 M * tmAtOR hi 1109457550 M * rusty`` hello 1109457662 M * tmAtOR I have 1 public ip and i want to use one vserver as web server and another vserver for ftp server, but i dont know how to configure my network to do this, can you help me ? 1109457717 M * Bertl welcome tmAtOR! 1109457769 M * Bertl the best solution is to assign private ips (10.0.0.x) to your vservers and then make an iptables entry to SNAT/DNAT the ips to and from for certain ports 1109457997 M * tmAtOR ok, and to have "internet" on my vserver i must add the public as gateway ? 1109458024 J * trungie ~trungie@CPE-141-168-4-53.nsw.bigpond.net.au 1109458065 M * Bertl welcome trungie! 1109458084 M * Bertl tmAtOR: the networking is like on any 'normal' linux machine 1109458099 M * Bertl so no additional routing or relaying ... 1109458124 M * tmAtOR ok thanks, i go try this 1109458130 M * Bertl (but of course you have to SNAT the ips of the vserver to reach the internet) 1109458152 P * trungie 1109458458 M * tmAtOR Nertl : but ping enter vserver and host not work, is it normal ? 1109458516 M * tmAtOR heu Bertl and not Nertl :) 1109458733 M * Bertl hmm? please rephrase! 1109458817 M * tmAtOR i'm on my vserver and i can't ping my vserver host ? 1109458825 M * tmAtOR is this normal ? 1109458835 M * Bertl what kernel version and config do you use? 1109458868 M * tmAtOR 2.4.27 basic configuration 1109458908 Q * rusty`` Quit: 1109458995 M * Bertl then it's expected _not_ to work ... 1109460527 Q * lilo Quit: 1109461185 N * Doener_gone Doeenr 1109461187 N * Doeenr Doener 1109461197 M * Doener evening! 1109461220 M * Doener Bertl: why is that "obsoleted"? http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/Obsolete/vserver-web-concept4b.png 1109461232 M * Doener I never saw that before, but it looks great! 1109461259 M * Doener even the logo is awesome 1109461304 M * Bertl no, it's not obsolete, well, it's kind of discontinued 1109461342 M * Bertl we worked on that some time ago, but the guy working on it didn't continue for whatever reason ... 1109461372 M * Doener i'd absolutely love to see that layout become what the wiki looks like 1109461373 M * Bertl you might check the archives that was quite some time ago ... 1109461390 A * Doener .oO( maybe i drank a little too much whisky? ) 1109461406 M * Bertl no problem with that, IIRC it was an adaptation of the wiki IIRC ;) 1109461426 A * Bertl .o( hmm, I should not remember that much ;) 1109461565 Q * tmAtOR Quit: I am going away 1109462247 M * Doener oh, i just noticed (while reading up) that i forgot to say, that my gf asked me to send greetings to you, too ;) 1109462294 M * Bertl ah, thanks!