1106956813 M * Bertl and the patch is ontop of 2.6.11-rc2-vs1.9.4-rc3 1106956845 M * Bertl (so you have to path 2.6.10 -> 2.6.11-rc2 -> vs1.9.4-rc3 -> ng8.12 1106956847 M * Bertl ) 1106956847 M * jmp Bertl: ok 1106956909 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1106956912 M * jmp I'll try this, many thank for the info, didn't ctahc the fact ng was an extra branch... 1106956913 M * chrish01 Borg_Number_One, how does one change the BIOS anyway? 1106956982 M * Bertl jmp: you're welcome, it's still in early development ... some things work, others just dont ... 1106957019 M * Bertl (it's not a plug-in replacement for the existing networking ... not yet ;) 1106957025 M * jmp I'll keep you post 1106957891 N * BobR_zZ BobR 1106957914 M * Doener night! 1106957920 N * Doener Doener_zZz 1106957925 M * Bertl night Doener! 1106958348 M * Borg_Number_One @crish01 http://www.winamp5.de.tt/vmwarebios.html 1106958420 M * chrish01 Borg_Number_One, nice dude 1106958488 M * Borg_Number_One did you try the bios? 1106958573 M * Borg_Number_One chrish ? 1106958725 N * BobR BobR_zZ 1106958881 M * chrish01 Borg_Number_One, naw, dont have time to today 1106958926 M * Borg_Number_One it does not take time... just download it and modify the vmx-file that the biosfile will be used. 1106958944 M * chrish01 im actually headed out right now. maybe tonight when i get home though! 1106958995 M * Bertl okay cya chrish01! 1106959038 M * chrish01 cya guys 1106959043 Q * chrish01 Quit: Leaving 1106959555 M * Borg_Number_One cu 1106959557 P * Borg_Number_One 1106960122 Q * jsambrook Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106960633 J * bassgoon Aaron@mooonastick.student.iastate.edu 1106960741 P * bassgoon Leaving 1106968733 M * Bertl night everyone! cya tomorrow ... 1106968761 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1106973173 Q * berni Remote host closed the connection 1106973175 J * berni ~berni@2001:1b18:202::2 1106973201 Q * aba Remote host closed the connection 1106973219 J * aba ~aba@sol.turmzimmer.net 1106973551 P * jmp 1106991761 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz 1106994723 Q * sannes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106996592 Q * flock Quit: Expert, n.: Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides. 1106996598 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1106996602 Q * flock Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106997177 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1106997747 M * Seraph moin! 1106997755 M * Loki|muh moin 1106997761 M * Seraph anybody could tell me what the current recommendation for BIND9 in Vserver is? 1106997770 M * Seraph or where the docs are how to get it working safe and reliably? 1106997856 M * Loki|muh i have running 4 bind9 in vservers 1106997868 M * Loki|muh NET_RAW is needed for this 1106997873 M * Seraph yep, i just see it's rndc being the prpoblem 1106997885 M * Loki|muh yeah? why? 1106997896 M * Seraph hmm, and you won't be having sockets over *ALL* your ips? 1106997911 M * Seraph i.e. only binding that named to the one IP it was assigned to in the vserver? 1106997942 M * Loki|muh hmmm, the dns have all normal configuration 1106997965 M * Loki|muh i don't get the point... 1106997980 M * Seraph yep, i just confused that with ipv6 bind().. 1106997993 M * Seraph BIND9 cannot select IPv6 addresses 1106998008 M * Seraph thus you'll *always* be binding *EVERY* local IP when running ipv6-enabled.. 1106998011 M * Seraph that kinda sucks.. 1106998019 M * Seraph but yes, running ipv4-only is fine.. 1106998024 A * Seraph should get more sleep :-P 1106998042 M * Loki|muh hehe 1106998065 M * Seraph but still for IPv4 i need net_raw? 1106998114 N * Doener_zZz Doener 1106998117 M * Doener morning! 1106998123 M * Seraph hey Doener =) 1106998130 M * Loki|muh i'm just thinking about 'Memory Split User Space'-Kernel Option, what is a good setting for 1GB RAM... is it a problem to have it '( ) 1.0GB/3.0GB Kernel' 1106998137 M * Doener Seraph: IIRC no, just compile with --without-linux-caps or something like that 1106998159 M * Seraph Doener: will probably do that.. 1106998161 M * Doener Loki|muh: for 1GB the 1.5/2.5 Split is best, as it allows usage of the full 1gb 1106998206 M * Doener 1/3 split : Mem: 906744k total 1106998211 M * Doener 1.5/2.5 split: Mem: 1034948k total 1106998289 M * Loki|muh and for 2GB then 1.5GB/2.5GB Kernel? In the help there is 'which will result in about 2390MB of lowmem' or am I false? 1106998338 M * Loki|muh brb 1106998341 M * Doener Seraph: http://linux-vserver.org/Linux-Vserver+FAQ -- Section G.1 1106998497 Q * Doener Quit: changing servers 1106998746 J * Doener|gone doener@193.24.208.125 1106999677 N * Doener|gone Doener 1107001453 Q * we2by Remote host closed the connection 1107003785 P * BobR_zZ 1107004417 J * wishes_ ~wishes@203-118-142-215.pppoe.ihug.co.nz 1107004428 Q * wishes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1107004561 J * Pazzo ~thomas@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1107004587 M * Pazzo morning folks :o) 1107004862 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1107005626 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1107005707 M * Bertl morning folks! 1107005845 M * Pazzo moin bertl! 1107005974 M * Doener hi Bertl! 1107006013 M * Pazzo hi doener! 1107006235 M * Pazzo bertl: I have to remotely migrate another host to vserver and because of this f*#+ing SATA change in 2.6 I wasn't able to manage migration yesterday with my initrd kernels :o( 1107006244 M * Pazzo so I have to create a new static one... 1107006259 M * Pazzo ... and wanted to ask, if in a productional environment 1107006285 M * Pazzo 2.6.9-vs1.9.3 or 2.6.11rc2-vs1.9.4rc4 would be the better choice... 1107006287 M * Pazzo ? 1107006520 M * Pazzo Yesterday someone wrote that he is really happy with 2.6.11rc2-vs1.9.4rc4 in a productional environment - I'm also happy with 2.6.9 - but unrestartable vservers (because of forever-living contexts) are driving me crazy... 1107006834 M * Bertl hey Pazzo! (my network is still bad :/) 1107006906 M * Bertl Pazzo: yesterday, mica came to the conclusion that he could use 2.6.11rc2-vs1.9.4rc4 for now, and update to 2.6.11-vs1.9.4 once it is out ... 1107006985 M * Pazzo Bertl: yeah, that's what I've read. what do you think about it? how stable is 2.6.11-rc2? is it "better" than 2.6.9 ("better" for sure, but also more stable?) 1107006990 M * Loki|muh Bertl: any important changes between rc2 and rc4? 1107007005 M * Bertl yes, we fixed two issues 1107007014 M * Bertl one is related to UP/DEBUG build 1107007027 M * Bertl the other specific to 2.6.11-rc2 1107007042 M * Bertl (i.e. process accounting was wrong for that one) 1107007079 M * Bertl Pazzo: you read my opinion on that too then ;) 1107007186 M * Pazzo no, sorry I wasn't following the discussion - I just took a snapshot of some lines ... but I'll have a look at the IRC log! 1107007607 M * Pazzo ok, I'll go the rc2-rc4 way :o) thnx bertl! 1107007627 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1107007786 M * Loki|muh so you think 2.6.11-rc2-vs1.9.4-rc4 may be more stable/secure than 2.6.9-vs1.9.4-rc4? 1107008056 M * Bertl yes, it might be so ... but we do not know for sure ... 1107008574 M * DuckMaster Bertl: 1107008577 M * DuckMaster Hy 1107008586 M * DuckMaster What about multicast ? 1107008603 M * DuckMaster I tried to put openslp on one of our vservers ... 1107008619 M * DuckMaster He told me he can't do multicast .. 1107008628 M * DuckMaster Special privilege are needed .. 1107008649 M * Bertl hmm, might require some CAPs ... 1107008672 J * Hollow ~bene@home.xnull.de 1107008680 M * DuckMaster Any idea which one could be the one ? 1107008719 M * Bertl #define CAP_NET_ADMIN 12 1107008727 M * Bertl /* Allow multicasting */ 1107008752 M * Bertl one of those good placed subfunctions of super CAPs ... 1107008777 M * DuckMaster Where did you find this ? 1107008782 M * DuckMaster Kernel ? 1107008800 M * DuckMaster Thx anyway :) 1107008971 M * Pazzo PREEMPT_BKL -> no? 1107009350 M * Bertl disable PREEMPT completely 1107009404 M * Loki|muh why no preemption? 1107009439 M * Bertl for several reasons: a) I know there are some drivers which are not preemption safe 1107009458 M * Bertl b) I know at least one case, where linux-vserver is not preemption save 1107009461 M * Bertl *safe 1107009473 M * Loki|muh ah thanks 1107009478 M * Bertl and finally c) there is no point in preemption unless you do realtime stuff 1107009516 M * Bertl the sole purpose of PREEMPT is to get the kernel 'slices' below a few microseconds ... 1107009589 M * Bertl 1.9.5 will probably be preemption safe (maybe 2.6.12 too ;) 1107009597 M * Pazzo thnx bertl! 1107011969 J * fwag31azix ~fwag31azi@196.203.0.69 1107012107 M * Bertl welcome fwag31azix! 1107012222 M * Bertl k, back later ... 1107012229 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1107012290 M * Pazzo cya bertl! 1107012468 P * fwag31azix 1107012542 M * Pazzo http://www.boingboing.net/2005/01/27/jailed_for_using_a_n.html 1107012577 M * Pazzo what a strange world... 1107012703 M * Pazzo rm -f /usr/bin/lynx 1107012744 M * daniel_hozac indeed. 1107013211 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1107013778 M * Pazzo shiiiiiiiiiit... new kernel, vserver-stat works, testme.sh-0.07 fails: 1107013783 M * Pazzo chcontext failed! 1107013787 M * Pazzo New security context is 1 1107013795 M * Pazzo chbind: vc_set_ipv4root(): Function not implemented 1107013800 M * Pazzo chbind failed! 1107013804 M * Pazzo Linux 2.6.11-rc2-vs1.9.4-rc4 i686/0.30.196/0.30.196 [Ea] 1107013811 M * Pazzo ...what's missing???? 1107013952 M * daniel_hozac CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY? 1107014027 M * Pazzo f*ck - you're right... thnx! 1107014041 M * Pazzo is this switch still needed, even with alpha-utils? 1107014075 M * daniel_hozac obviously ;) 1107014091 M * Pazzo hmmm... I should reread the description 1107014169 M * Pazzo "This enables the legacy API used in vs1.xx, which allows to use older tools (for migration purposes)." 1107014189 M * Pazzo is this description misleading or is my english knowledge too bad? 1107014247 M * Pazzo I had this switch always enabled, but the "...allows to use older tools" confused me - proud to have new tools I switched it off :-) 1107014267 M * daniel_hozac http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg08172.html 1107014356 M * Pazzo thnx! 1107014361 M * Pazzo hmmm... 1107014430 M * Pazzo never change a running config, right? I wanted to clean up things, read this "...older tools" line and said to me: no, for sure we do not support old stuff! 1107014433 M * Pazzo ;-p 1107014442 M * daniel_hozac hehe 1107014574 M * Pazzo I have to leave now, cu l8er & thnx again, sorry for disturbing you with such a stupid thing! 1107014581 N * Pazzo PazZzzzoooo 1107015465 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1107017222 Q * mhepp Quit: mhepp caught signal: Autobus error 1107019310 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection 1107019371 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1107019518 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection 1107019871 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1107020998 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection 1107021904 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1107022106 J * ntrs__ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1107022513 Q * serving Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1107022543 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1107023548 J * click click@dsl-84-161.aal.tiscali.no 1107025668 J * DuckKing ~Duck@dyn-83-157-184-97.ppp.tiscali.fr 1107026100 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1107026155 J * DaCa ~danny@mail.limehouse.org 1107029314 J * serving ~serving@213.186.181.120 1107031574 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz 1107031828 Q * Snow-Man Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1107032334 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@snowman.net 1107033181 J * jmp jmp@Montreal.safe.ca 1107033366 M * jmp can somebody give me an hand on vs1.9.4-rc4-ng8.12 about vnet and ifconfig? 1107033454 Q * mhepp Quit: mhepp caught signal: Autobus error 1107036365 Q * matti Read error: Connection reset by peer 1107037262 Q * jmp Remote host closed the connection 1107037909 Q * mikelcu Remote host closed the connection 1107041835 J * jmp jmp@Montreal.safe.ca 1107042053 J * axu_ ~Axu@81.223.125.177 1107042056 M * axu_ hi folks 1107042140 M * jmp hello 1107042170 M * axu_ hi jmp 1107042262 M * axu_ i have a problem with hostname --fqdn .. it puts out unknown host even there is /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts ... resolv.conf (dont know where it gets the domainpart) anyone a clou ? 1107042359 M * axu_ have this vserve rup for allmost 1 1/2 years and now detected that this doesnt work 1107042387 M * axu_ also i cant set the hostname, but that maybe because of some missing capability 1107043014 M * axu_ bye folks 1107043016 P * axu_ Leaving